How Directors Collaborate With Cinematographers

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In Depth Cine

In Depth Cine

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@InDepthCine
@InDepthCine 4 жыл бұрын
Who are some of your favourite director/DOP duos? SUPPORT THE CHANNEL: www.patreon.com/indepthcine
@jhoang861
@jhoang861 4 жыл бұрын
WONG KAR-WAI and CHRISTOPHER DOYLE!
@jpestrello
@jpestrello 4 жыл бұрын
Christopher Nolan and Hoyte van Hoytema
@juanpablocifuentes4303
@juanpablocifuentes4303 4 жыл бұрын
Chistopher Nolan and Hoyte Van Hoytema Sam mendez and Roger Deakins Denis Villeneuve And Roger Deakins The Coen Brothers and Roger Deakins
@dhinashinoda883
@dhinashinoda883 3 жыл бұрын
Luca Guadagnino and Sayombhu Mukdeeprom
@sushinskiy
@sushinskiy 2 жыл бұрын
Christopher Nolan and Hoyte van Hoytema
@BrendaGarcia-ty2ml
@BrendaGarcia-ty2ml 4 жыл бұрын
YES just the content we need! Almost no one is making content about this topic, so thank you
@adityajadhav322
@adityajadhav322 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@fxzero666
@fxzero666 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. I've always wondered how so many different aspects of a motion picture work together to become the final product.
@vangaakkireddy4223
@vangaakkireddy4223 4 жыл бұрын
Dekeson is expert tips about film hatsoff dekson style .
@HasanAmin
@HasanAmin 4 жыл бұрын
I'm in the final year of film school, cinematography department, and I'm currently preparing to shoot my graduation project, this video of yours, you have no idea how helpful, informative, eye-opening is is for me, thanks a million :) liked and subscribed for sure, stay brilliant :)
@xxiamxx5535
@xxiamxx5535 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck.
@Woodsaras
@Woodsaras 3 жыл бұрын
Thats kinda weird that a youtube video can be helpful to a 4th year student of a thing ...
@YEDxFILMS
@YEDxFILMS 3 жыл бұрын
@@Woodsaras He probably recently chose the cinematography path. Besides, learning is a continual thing that will extend outside of the classroom
@srinathreddy5359
@srinathreddy5359 2 жыл бұрын
Hello bro
@srinathreddy5359
@srinathreddy5359 2 жыл бұрын
I'm srinath reddy pursuing MA Film production in UK
@franjes9999
@franjes9999 3 жыл бұрын
As someone interested in writing and directing films with extremely limited knowledge of the intricacies of great cinematography this was super helpful and interesting
@HollyHargreaves
@HollyHargreaves 4 жыл бұрын
I'm an indie director and finding the right DP is so important. Thanks for your channel, it's great.
@zacharyantle7940
@zacharyantle7940 4 жыл бұрын
What kind of films do you make? I’m an aspiring writer/director too :)
@pogoprofilms
@pogoprofilms 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like this channel is a resurrection of Every Frame a Painting and it's absolutely brilliant.
@maxkern4419
@maxkern4419 4 жыл бұрын
As a student interested in various parts of filmmaking, I deeply enjoyed this video! Insightful information, delivered in an informative and visually appealing way and a great structure! Thanks a lot from Austria! :)
@captain_giacco
@captain_giacco 3 жыл бұрын
Second thanks from Austria, great video! :) & hi Max, maybe we'll see each other at the Diagonale ;)
@TChristopher
@TChristopher 4 жыл бұрын
So glad to be back to these incredible analyses! This relationship is probably the most intriguing next to the Director/Actor collaboration. The trust and the ability to communicate on visual terms to convey meaning and emotion is paramount, and I think that’s often overlooked when Directors interact with DOPs. Guess I’ve gotta work hard on my storyboards then 🤣 One Director’s work that would be interesting to analyse is Denis Villeneuve. Even though he works with several DOPs, his films feel like his. Meditative, expansive and focused. I wonder what cinematic decisions he makes beforehand to ensure his style is present before opening up the collaboration with his DOP.
@captain_giacco
@captain_giacco 3 жыл бұрын
My spontaneous guess would be that he does a lot in editing - while others feel the best thing for their film is to cut and put new pictures in front of the audience, Denis Villeneuve likes to stay in one shot for a longer time which gives us this focused, meditative and calm feeling. I have the feeling Arrival and Blade Runner 2049 were quite slow at times with focus on 1 nice shot rathen than 3. Also his choice of music plays a big part for the vibe as in all films. But that's just the first thing that came to my mind - I am sure you already have an opinion. What do you think and what's your favorite film by him you think I should watch (if not Arrivel, Blade Runner or Prisoners)?
@TChristopher
@TChristopher 3 жыл бұрын
@@captain_giacco I agree with you. He's not afraid to take his time with his films regarding pacing. He definitely has a very defined idea about his cinematic style that's easily seen throughout all of his films, all the way from Polytechnique onwards. I think that you should definitely watch Incendies, Enemy and Polytechnique and in that order. These were the films he made before and during making Prisoners (before Hollywood really came calling) and they represent a good amount of the non-mainstream work he's done. I'd go as far as saying that Incendies is the strongest masterpiece amongst his masterpieces.
@yashsavla9626
@yashsavla9626 4 жыл бұрын
The way you explain things so easily and so softly is truly amazing, love your videos.
@divagarans5846
@divagarans5846 4 жыл бұрын
In The Big Lebowski, there's a dream sequence of Jeff Bridges flying. The lighting and cinematography is just wow in that scene... It's the Coens and Roger Deakins.
@chungdha
@chungdha 4 жыл бұрын
Please dont mix up Adrew Lau Cinematography with Christopher Doyles, many of Wong Kar Wai movies have multiple DOP and should not give Christopher Doyle all the credits for it. Especially Chung King Mansion the style of how the two stories were filmed were fastly different and noticeably Andrew Lau slow shutter styled, while Doyle was more handheld approach.
@CJSPARKES
@CJSPARKES 4 жыл бұрын
The quality of information in this video is sooo excellent and in depth, thank you!
@MrTagadagada21
@MrTagadagada21 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Thank you for the quality content and education. Can you make a video about Directors and their relationship to Screenwriting/Screenplays? Also one about the steps that starting as a director practically involves. And more videos exploring the different working methods of different directors. Thank you so much 🙏🏽
@murasaki1177
@murasaki1177 4 жыл бұрын
Deakin's work is beautiful. 😍
@adrianestrada5736
@adrianestrada5736 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. That man makes art with the films he is involved in. Blade Runner 2049 being one example, is absolutely gorgeous!
@Oceansta
@Oceansta 4 жыл бұрын
very insightful comment there.
@bluebellbeatnik4945
@bluebellbeatnik4945 Жыл бұрын
@@Oceansta is yours?
@vishalnayer6818
@vishalnayer6818 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video. Very few tutorial videos like these are able to articulate the technical craft and artistic vision in the right balanced manner while breaking down the craft!
@nelsonwang2991
@nelsonwang2991 4 жыл бұрын
The quality of your videos are consistently impressive. I have definitely learnt a lot about different processes of cinematography. Please keep it up!
@helle_larsen
@helle_larsen 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer working with directors that have ideas in their mind regarding cinematography, but are also open to input from the cinematographer. To me the action of the characters and key props are really important as well, because those can help me come up with good shots that tell a lot. The relationship with the DoP and the Director is really important, but I think what is the most important is that the Director believes in their DoP. I have met Directors in school that believe they know what is best, but have no knowledge on the technical stuff. It is important to remember that DoP's can create the look you want in the way you want because they have the knowledge too, and believe in their ideas because a lot of times those look good on the screen. Maybe not 100% like what you imagined in your head, but as close as possible hopefully.
@ricomcclinton2982
@ricomcclinton2982 Жыл бұрын
Well said, as a director I like to collaborate with DOP!
@josefengelhardt2767
@josefengelhardt2767 Жыл бұрын
Roger Deakins - Sam Mendes, Denis Villeneuve and The Coen Brothers. Deakins also did cinematography for films like The Shawshank Redemption, M. Night Shyamalan's The Village, In Time with Justin Timberlake and Amanda Seyfried and Rango with Johnny Depp Janusz Kaminski - Steven Spielberg (starting with Schindler's List)
@pierrezapata90
@pierrezapata90 4 жыл бұрын
This is such a beautifully done video. Thank you for that breakdown and great footage from some of my favorite directors and DOPs. Great info for someone like me just starting making some short films and footage from my photography experience.
@richardd9938
@richardd9938 2 жыл бұрын
Legit a question I've always asked, you make such great videos❤️
@riojiang9377
@riojiang9377 4 жыл бұрын
This channel is a gem, I am glad I have found it.
@saysheate197
@saysheate197 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is so incredibly inspiring to me. Thank you. 🙏🏼
@108u9
@108u9 4 жыл бұрын
6:15 Not sure what the full quote is or its context but it should be said that softness (if defined by the shadow edge) does not increase with adding more diffusion
@helle9075
@helle9075 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! I am currently working on a film project in school, and my professors didn’t explain the difference between the role of the director and DoP well enough, so I have been confused. Currently I am the DoP on this project, so it is nice to know what to do
@ornebatmagoo7128
@ornebatmagoo7128 10 ай бұрын
My impression, from having worked for directors who are known for their strong and identifiable visual film style, is that those who have inherent artistic skills in photography, illustration or painting (Ridley Scott, David Fincher, Stanley Kubrick as famous examples) tend to have a steady approach that reflects on every film they make regardless of who the DP is. That's because they're using the film medium to recreate their graphic vernacular onscreen. Those are the directors who use a similar approach on every film. Of course, few directors have really strong background as plastic artists and therefore, directing in general is more open and flexible than it is for that specific elite. Basically, not everyone comes to the dance with equal skills. Directors who have strong artistic backgrounds cannot stand allowing other egos to compose a frame because so much of their sensibility rests on extremely subtle modulations of what goes into those frames -- all the way from blocking and staging to lens usage, art direction and color grade.
@srinivassridhar5151
@srinivassridhar5151 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Can you please make a video series about the various elements that go together while creating a vision, if not the entire film, at least covering a scene or a sequence and how they achieved that particular effect and why they used what they used and the whole process of transformation from script to screen. It would be helpful if you could cover the technical aspects in detail as well, like lighting design, colour temperature, lens choices.etc. Thank you for your video analysis, they're awesome 👍🏻
@InDepthCine
@InDepthCine 4 жыл бұрын
Good idea. I might do a video on the creation of a specific scene from start to finish in the future.
@ginofactap
@ginofactap 4 жыл бұрын
actually, framing and shooting is also the director's job. the director has the image and movement in his/her head, and the DOP is the one that knows how to technically achieve that image, as in lighting, lens, color, etc.
@Oceansta
@Oceansta 4 жыл бұрын
Not true. As mentioned in the video, there is no hard and fast rule. The dynamics are fluid and change constantly depending on the Director/DP relationship. I speak from 10+ years on-set experience as a 1st AD.
@tinasoen6625
@tinasoen6625 4 жыл бұрын
This is the content that I need for so long time. Thanks!!!
@FilmQi
@FilmQi 3 жыл бұрын
This topyc is so important, thank you for talking about it
@JAYFULFILMZ
@JAYFULFILMZ 4 жыл бұрын
This channel is pure Gold
@karolchwierut
@karolchwierut 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing stuff bro! Keep up the videos, they are really great!
@j.peters123
@j.peters123 4 жыл бұрын
This clears things up a lot! Thank you
@petrisalo6915
@petrisalo6915 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you SO much for your excellent work! This is really helpful.
@mangopina5838
@mangopina5838 3 жыл бұрын
I keep thinking about this video! It would be super interesting if you could do one about the relationship Screewriter-Director, and like, where is the story created? The case of Pirates of the Caribbean it's very bizarre and fun.
@imanolbourdoncle3466
@imanolbourdoncle3466 Жыл бұрын
Hi, i know i'm a little bit late but just to correct you on one point, some of the well known step printing scenes associated with wong kar wai are actually filmed by Andrew Lau, his DOP on As Tears Go By and on the first part of Chungqin Express. Otherwise excellent video as always !
@Bunny-qi6oe
@Bunny-qi6oe 4 жыл бұрын
I needed this, thank you!!!
@theghd2020
@theghd2020 Жыл бұрын
This is a great video on the process. I used to ask who was responsible for Kubrick’s beautiful shots.
@rzucamklatwenamojtuszcz1874
@rzucamklatwenamojtuszcz1874 3 жыл бұрын
This video is incredibly helpful. Thank you so much
@maxwelll8052
@maxwelll8052 4 жыл бұрын
this chanel its soo dam good, teaches me soo much, and i dont understand why dont have many people looking at it
@ayeeeck4512
@ayeeeck4512 4 жыл бұрын
I always wondered. I think this channel will answer all my questions which nobody else talks about.
@anthonyshintai2942
@anthonyshintai2942 3 жыл бұрын
Great quality video, very informative! Thank you
@randomniche1345
@randomniche1345 3 жыл бұрын
I'm working on directing a short film I wrote and also want to DP it. this video has been insightful on how to communicate with myself
@maciek8159
@maciek8159 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video it definitely cleared some things up for me. Who are your favorite director/dp duo? Mine is director park Chan wook and dp Chung Chung hoon
@chungdha
@chungdha 3 жыл бұрын
You are wrong about Zhang Yimou, both are shot by Zhao Xiaoding. Though Xiaoding credit in Hero been down graded to camera operator, the entire movie had zero influence by Doyle, that is why the look is still consistent.
@michaelsmovies1044
@michaelsmovies1044 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! This is something I’ve been personally wondering a lot about and you did a great job answering it. Thank you :)
@iamdeepakbhandari
@iamdeepakbhandari 4 жыл бұрын
Remember me when you hit 1M! Many thanks for sharing the knowledge and experiences! Love from Nepal❤
@jefu
@jefu 4 жыл бұрын
Super interesting video, definitely should be shown in every film class
@theslimbin
@theslimbin 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who often finds themselves as a DP it’s annoying when a director has a visual vision and didn’t tell me they have it and inact that vision by not approving shots that don’t align without telling me why. It made me angry last week a director wanted flat shots that looked like old black and white comedies (I disagree with the choice but could have made it work) problem being he didn’t tell me and I was composing in a modern dynamic way and we had so much tension as I felt he was distorting every shot I composed to be flat and boring. It was only half way through production he told me about his intentions and I was so miffed as I not only could compose some really nice shots if I knew this but was annoyed he didn’t give me a chance to dissuade him from pursuing this creative decision or have time to prep and rewatch the old black and white classics
@dautucas
@dautucas 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Wonder if theres something like that about collab between director and sound editor
@rudigerkerz7981
@rudigerkerz7981 4 жыл бұрын
I´m a simple man... I see Wong Kar Wai, I klick on the video.
@jonfreeze
@jonfreeze 4 жыл бұрын
This video is amazing. Also loving the ambient music in the background, this vid was made for me. lol
@yosoyalbertico
@yosoyalbertico 4 жыл бұрын
Great review about collaboration. I love inside Lewis Daivis film. This texture of frame is interesting for me and you explain quite well. And Wor Kar Wai...and his collaboration are important. You don't say nothing about my 'blueberry night' but no is the same energy that films with Christopher Doyle.
@jhoang861
@jhoang861 4 жыл бұрын
Please do one on Wong Kar-wai and Christopher Doyle! 🙏 They did Chungking Express, In the Mood for Love and 2046 ❤️
@essjaymusic
@essjaymusic 3 жыл бұрын
You are the best,binging on youre content💯❤👌🏼
@filmingincolor
@filmingincolor 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome content. Thank you.
@NIKONGUY1960
@NIKONGUY1960 4 жыл бұрын
Coen Brothers and Mr. Deakins!!
@larramenpa
@larramenpa 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, great channel !!!! As a film student this is golden !!! Carry on the good and interesting work ! Also, you should definitely use a progressive image settings for your project when you edit your videos. I believe you're using something around 1080i, and you should be using 1080p (indeed change the "i" for "p") and you'll rid off these choppy bars transitions when images are moving in the videos
@dantan357
@dantan357 4 жыл бұрын
I watched your other video on the path to becoming a DP I’m on the 3rd path as well
@smitkanakhara481
@smitkanakhara481 4 жыл бұрын
You are the best bro You do awsome work Keep it up,sure you will gain more👍👍👍
@InDepthCine
@InDepthCine 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for the support!
@RoadtrippinwithTakacs
@RoadtrippinwithTakacs 4 жыл бұрын
Well done! Great insight. Subscribed. 👍
@stokedupart4078
@stokedupart4078 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome content and bgm
@ashimborahyt
@ashimborahyt 4 жыл бұрын
You narrate well. Much appreciated 👏
@zuhriyuhyi
@zuhriyuhyi 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. I learned so much from this.
@yayo27
@yayo27 4 жыл бұрын
great video!! few like u that makes the following process of the video easy and very understandable.
@randy25rhoads
@randy25rhoads 4 жыл бұрын
Just discovered this channel! Instant subscribe.
@noahlasher9724
@noahlasher9724 3 жыл бұрын
Didn’t even mention the greatest DOP Director duo: Bergman and Nykvist.
@dariushenry5333
@dariushenry5333 3 жыл бұрын
thank you
@wilsoncortezribeiro
@wilsoncortezribeiro 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic content. Congratulations 👏😍👏
@GarrettBell
@GarrettBell 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. 😌
@midnitesongs
@midnitesongs 4 жыл бұрын
great video ! - just subscribed
@edo131
@edo131 4 жыл бұрын
I think im in love with your channel
@TheJijiSama
@TheJijiSama 4 жыл бұрын
this is enjoyable to watch, also informative
@vangaakkireddy4223
@vangaakkireddy4223 4 жыл бұрын
Super cinematic Tips amazing colour pattern I would like to that type of back ground settings and visual effects and soft lights and on the situation which light is focused well, I observed everything I able to follow ur Tips then I will successsul .hatsoff deksen director.
@0800filmez
@0800filmez 4 жыл бұрын
I'm loving the videos. Can you make a breakdown on Star Warts The Force Awakens? And if possible, please make a video on LOST the series. That's where everything begun for me as a director of photography.
@jopvandekam
@jopvandekam Жыл бұрын
6:41 A silhouette is not a shadow though... Why did you choose this shot? there's tons of examples of hard lighting in Deakin's work, even in No Country alone.
@iniakiga_
@iniakiga_ 4 жыл бұрын
Man... so good videos, you are very under-viewed. I belive you'll take off soon. Good luck! I'll wait in the suscriptors area :)
@BearFattfilm
@BearFattfilm Жыл бұрын
Alex Garland has an interesting approach to directing if you ever listen to him talk about it.
@lillifeldeborn9591
@lillifeldeborn9591 4 жыл бұрын
4:14 which movie is that?
@jas_bataille
@jas_bataille 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Little correction as a french speaker : "Mise en scène" does not mean design of the settings. It actually means the directing of actors. It's a term traditionally used in dramatic art. Peace!
@stears
@stears 4 жыл бұрын
thats not how i was taught in film class though
@kevinsupreme_ph36yearsago59
@kevinsupreme_ph36yearsago59 2 жыл бұрын
Can a director be a cinematographer at the same time?
@mansurali4433
@mansurali4433 3 жыл бұрын
could someone tell me the movies name at 2:58 please
@franjes9999
@franjes9999 3 жыл бұрын
Hugo I'm pretty sure
@mansurali4433
@mansurali4433 3 жыл бұрын
@@franjes9999 Thanks man
@bensharplesfilm
@bensharplesfilm 4 жыл бұрын
Very happy to find this channel, good to see other creators focusing on quality over quantity for content around cinematography. Major props IDC!
@davidx2484
@davidx2484 4 жыл бұрын
Puedo hacer una versión en español de sus videos realmente falta esta clase de videos en el público latinoamericano:D
@anomitrade6656
@anomitrade6656 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@InDepthCine
@InDepthCine 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@gametheory2676
@gametheory2676 4 жыл бұрын
love zhang yimou's style
@har5814
@har5814 4 жыл бұрын
Deakins and Don Burgess are my favorite cinema to graphers
@cp2polk
@cp2polk 4 жыл бұрын
What movie is at 1:14???
@tedafida2090
@tedafida2090 5 ай бұрын
Just out of curiosity, what is the accent of the VO speaker of this video I can't figure it out exactly..? Thanks.
@ligairi
@ligairi 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who used to work in movie Art Departments, I’m surprised to see Production Design under something you feel the DP would collaborate on. I’ve never seen a DP who cares about Production Design, despite it being one of the primary factors in creating the images they capture. In fact, only the best Directors get deeply involved with Production Design. None of the Directors you cover here would fall into the category of a Director who doesn’t care, but it’s common. Often they just want to see a few options that the Props Master, Art Director, or Production Designer prepare and then they choose one. Some Directors don’t even want to choose. They just want the Art Department to do their job and let the Director focus on the Actors. They are the most fun Directors to work for, but don’t always make the best movies.
@crystalfoxfilms
@crystalfoxfilms 2 жыл бұрын
Does the director give entire script to DP or just shot list?
@smitkanakhara481
@smitkanakhara481 4 жыл бұрын
Has there anyone who has done both directing and Dop work by himself? Rather chosing someother Dop?
@InDepthCine
@InDepthCine 4 жыл бұрын
There are definitely some examples of that. Steven Soderbergh is known for both shooting and directing some of his films (he used an alias in the credits). Phantom Thread is also an interesting film, which I plan on analysing soon, as they made it without crediting a DOP - instead collaborating on the visuals between Anderson, the camera operator and the gaffer.
@satyam-s1t
@satyam-s1t 4 жыл бұрын
Alfonso cuaron for Roma (2018) and received academy awards for both direction and cinematography. 😘❤️
@creatief_met_kaas
@creatief_met_kaas 4 жыл бұрын
@@InDepthCine that's so cool looking forward to that analysis
@bobunitone
@bobunitone 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Rodriguez
@smitkanakhara481
@smitkanakhara481 4 жыл бұрын
@@InDepthCine thank you for answer
@tawfique1283
@tawfique1283 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@niamscookery3442
@niamscookery3442 4 жыл бұрын
Useful.Thanks
@mazinbajalan4334
@mazinbajalan4334 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@kiribundi
@kiribundi 4 жыл бұрын
Could you cover Chayse Irvin?
@InDepthCine
@InDepthCine 4 жыл бұрын
Will do. I like his commercial work, good suggestion.
@kiribundi
@kiribundi 4 жыл бұрын
@@InDepthCine I know he is fairly similar to Rina Yang. It could be an interesting angle to study what direction cinematography is taking for the upcoming generations. Like you mentioned, towards the realistic, unpolished and dark looks
@miguelpantoja2000
@miguelpantoja2000 4 жыл бұрын
I love this video. It was so useful. Thanks a lot. But if you put the name of the films on screen it would be awesome
@YoungHappyHour
@YoungHappyHour 4 жыл бұрын
what is the film at 2:32?
@disissidd
@disissidd 4 жыл бұрын
Chungking Express. Dir : Wong Kar Wai
@Oceansta
@Oceansta 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great video.
@8KHDRVideoBySittipong
@8KHDRVideoBySittipong 4 жыл бұрын
Really​ good​ video.
@mister11alf
@mister11alf 4 жыл бұрын
great tks
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