How do I find x? Exponential equation with two different bases. Reddit precalculus r/Homworkhelp

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bprp math basics

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4 ай бұрын

Learn how to solve an exponential equation with two different bases. We will go over two ways. Be sure to remember the rules of exponents and logarithms. Here's a video with 10 examples of solving exponential equations, from basic to hard!: • How to solve exponenti...
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@bprpmathbasics
@bprpmathbasics 2 ай бұрын
Here's a video with 10 examples of solving exponential equations, from basic to hard!: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWmmgpWJeZ6qn9U
@reesetit
@reesetit 4 ай бұрын
I'm just impressed how you write with two different colors in one hand.
@dddaaa6965
@dddaaa6965 4 ай бұрын
Imagine now how sex
@loser1233
@loser1233 4 ай бұрын
it's like using chopsticks
@yafmaverick
@yafmaverick 4 ай бұрын
You must be special
@viCuber
@viCuber 4 ай бұрын
Lmao exactly the same I commented about two weeks ago
@kajalde3071
@kajalde3071 3 ай бұрын
I'm impressed that you do that with two hands
@daenerystargaryen
@daenerystargaryen 4 ай бұрын
I don't know why I'm watching this at 5AM since I'm a physicist doing PhD in neurophysics and computational neuroscience, but I thoroughly enjoyed this. 10/10. Younger generations are so lucky that they have someone like you explaining maths. Hopefully they'll know how to appreciate it and not waste their brains away on TikTok...
@scienceislove2014
@scienceislove2014 3 ай бұрын
Woah..sounds interesting.. can you elaborate like what things you study and tools you use?
@johnmarcusengreso8273
@johnmarcusengreso8273 3 ай бұрын
Ill take it as a compliment mr neurophysics man Im a 10th grader that likes math
@J0EB0B555
@J0EB0B555 3 ай бұрын
I'm a physics major as well but haven't taken a math course in a while. He's really helpful for keeping all the concepts fresh in my brain.
@IskzenMisishuw
@IskzenMisishuw 3 ай бұрын
Yes brother true
@antonioruelas8902
@antonioruelas8902 3 ай бұрын
Physics undergrad here, this man (and Organic Chemistry tutor) saved me during calc 2
@keroro407
@keroro407 4 ай бұрын
"How to find X?" Bro, it's time to move on. Your X doesn't care about you anymore.
@bprpmathbasics
@bprpmathbasics 4 ай бұрын
y?
@TheOnlineTurtle
@TheOnlineTurtle 3 ай бұрын
@@bprpmathbasics😂 thats good
@r0N1n_SD
@r0N1n_SD 3 ай бұрын
Lol. Bro got owned by Math😂
@stalincomrade1867
@stalincomrade1867 2 ай бұрын
Don't you z how pointless it is?
@Taokyle
@Taokyle 2 ай бұрын
lol
@Gamert80
@Gamert80 4 ай бұрын
I'm in 10th grade, so whenever he says "let's use this rule" I'm just like "uh huh" Edit: it's crazy how different some curriculums are in other countries.
@diewand5442
@diewand5442 4 ай бұрын
We learned the logarithm in 10th grade😅 (Germany)
@AutoFun_
@AutoFun_ 4 ай бұрын
Why are u here?
@Gamert80
@Gamert80 4 ай бұрын
I enjoy watching advanced math, even if I don't understand it fully.
@Gamert80
@Gamert80 4 ай бұрын
@@diewand5442 I'm only half way through the year so I may learn it soon.
@aaryan8104
@aaryan8104 4 ай бұрын
SAME FROM INDIA BTW
@MC-qm5jn
@MC-qm5jn 4 ай бұрын
i took precalc 4 years ago and was arbitrarily recommended this video yet I still feel compelled to do the homework this man has given
@xxxBradTxxx
@xxxBradTxxx 2 ай бұрын
I took it 15 years ago and I still watch these videos because it feels like a waste of effort to learn all of that an forget it. 🤷‍♂️
@jordananderson2728
@jordananderson2728 4 ай бұрын
To expand it, you use change of base to get log(96)/log(2/3). When dividing a logarithm, of course, you subtract the log of the denominator from the log of the numerator, which gives log(96)/(log2-log3). We can take the prime factors of 96: 3 and 2⁵, to get log(3•2⁵)/(log2-log3). With multiplication of logarithms, you add the logs of the multiplicands, so (log3 + log(2⁵))/(log2-log3). Finally, with exponentiation, you multiply the logarithm of the base by the exponent, which gives (log3 + 5log2)/(log2-log3).
@jordananderson2728
@jordananderson2728 4 ай бұрын
I should have used ln rather than log, but I'm so used to using log for change of base that I just did that by default. It works the same either way (:
@GreggRomaine
@GreggRomaine 4 ай бұрын
Nicely done, thanks for doing my homework!
@paratoxicalcapybara3939
@paratoxicalcapybara3939 4 ай бұрын
you can just use laws off exponents bcuz that seems easier. then you log it at the end for answer turn 2^(x-5) into 2^x*2^-5 and turn 3^(x+1) into 3^x*3. an example of this is (3^2)*(3^2)=3^4 expand into 1/32(2^x)=3(3^x) do some division to isolate x as much as possible. 3/(1/32) = 96 or (1/32) = 1/96. End up with 2^x=96(3^x) or 1/96(2^x)=3^x x root everything. 2=xroot(96)*3 or xroot(1/96)*2=3 more division to isolate x. 2/3=xroot(96) or 3/2=xroot(1/96) put everything to the x power. (2/3)^x=96 or (3/2)^x=1/96 now log bcuz inverse of exponential to finnaly actually isolate x. log(base(2/3)) of 96 = x or log(base(3/2)) of 1/96 = x x= ~-11.25
@Kasakuja
@Kasakuja 4 ай бұрын
well, how do you get from log(96) ---- log(2/3) to ln(96) --- ln(2/3) ?
@TheWatch1
@TheWatch1 4 ай бұрын
Log(96)/Log(e) is ln 96. Divide by log e in Nr and Dr
@bprpmathbasics
@bprpmathbasics 4 ай бұрын
Try this next: 2^x=5^(x+2) Answer here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jX2Qn6OJet6JitE
@imabiggoofy
@imabiggoofy 3 ай бұрын
bro really out here assigning hw 💀 (I'm in 8th grade, i dont know shit)
@FloraLemonYT
@FloraLemonYT 3 ай бұрын
I actually learned this last unit. 2^x=5^(x+2) xln2=xln5+2ln5 xln2-xln5=2ln5 factor out x x(ln2-ln5)=2ln5 x=2ln5/(ln2-ln5) I’m not sure if there’s a better way to simplify it
@IamFlaem1
@IamFlaem1 3 ай бұрын
x=log2/5(25)
@Neet_mbbs.0907
@Neet_mbbs.0907 2 ай бұрын
​@@FloraLemonYTThat's correct! 👍
@vandernight1220
@vandernight1220 2 ай бұрын
I mean: (X-5)log2 = (x+1)log3 … -> x = (5log2 - log3)/(log2 - log3) is just way less complicated than the methods shown, at least this is the standard method in uk
@zuhakhalid4900
@zuhakhalid4900 4 ай бұрын
That was a really good explanation! Thank you for explaining so clearly! 👏
@Dr.Insomniac.007
@Dr.Insomniac.007 2 ай бұрын
So I'm a 3rd year medical student watching this video and I dearly enjoyed it. Its like going down the memory lane. Really smooth teaching. Kudos to you..❤
@akifhossain5122
@akifhossain5122 3 ай бұрын
I have a Zoology exam tomorrow. It's 3am. 10/10
@ominious7082
@ominious7082 Ай бұрын
Yo how did it go? 😂
@utkarshjain861
@utkarshjain861 Ай бұрын
So, how did it went?
@sachinjain5367
@sachinjain5367 4 ай бұрын
I Just Saw the Thumbnail And Thought " Ehhhh That looks Ez Lets Just Do It " Only to waste 30 mins And Find Out It Have Logarithm Which I Havent Studied😂
@shrekyboi4776
@shrekyboi4776 4 ай бұрын
I solved it slightly different. I recognized that 3^(x+1) can be rewritten as [(1.5)(2)]^(x+1), which can be expanded as 1.5^(x+1) 2^(x+1). This is very helpful as it gives us an exponential of base 2 on both sides of the equation, which allows us to cancel out the x on the left side through exponent division rule. The full solution is below: 2^(x-5) = 3^(x+1) 2^(x-5) = [(1.5)(2)]^(x+1) 2^(x-5) = 1.5^(x+1) 2^(x+1) 2^(x-5)/2^(x+1) = 1.5^(x+1) 2^(-6) = 1.5^(x+1) Now we only have a single x variable to deal with, so we could simply apply log to both sides and isolate for x log[2^(-6)] = log[1.5^(x+1)] (log[2^(-6)]/log[1.5]) - 1 = x -11.257 = x
@user-lb3ex6yh9u
@user-lb3ex6yh9u 4 ай бұрын
Well done
@praneel1059
@praneel1059 4 ай бұрын
when i saw the thumbnail i guessed that since 2^(x-5) = 3^(x+5) we can do something like 2^(x-5) . 1/ 3^(x+5) then 2^(x-5) x (3^(x+5)) ^(-1) and go on i guess . Btw im in ninth grade so i have no clue about what ln is
@hridayjr6580
@hridayjr6580 4 ай бұрын
nice is the antilog required or this is it.
@scorpio9711
@scorpio9711 4 ай бұрын
ln is called natural log, where the base is 'e' which is called eular constant. BTW which country do you belong to
@kashi2928
@kashi2928 4 ай бұрын
I got that too, thanks for making me feel like I wasn't alone 😂
@lucsas9277
@lucsas9277 4 ай бұрын
the second option is always what comes to my mind first, i find it way easier and more intuitive, but ive forced myself doing the natural base method too cuz you have to know them both imo
@riccardodellorto4267
@riccardodellorto4267 4 ай бұрын
I do the complete opposite: whenever I see an x as an exponent, I use ln, because the calculator can eventually solve any monstrosity I type in as long as there are numbers 😂 Bringing down the x is my number one priority 🫡
@brown_bread_
@brown_bread_ 4 ай бұрын
I gave up on maths nearly 7 years ago in school. In my post graduation i watch this and feel my antipathy towards the subject reduce a little. Thanks
@jameshy69
@jameshy69 3 ай бұрын
australian here, i used my calculator. ive only seen the thumbnail and came straight here. the answer i got was (-ln(96))/ln(3/2) or approximately-11.257 edit: finished the video now and checked those two values of x. both were equal to my above answer. very nice 👍
@CuriousCyclist
@CuriousCyclist 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Much appreciated. ❤
@bprpmathbasics
@bprpmathbasics 2 ай бұрын
Glad to help! 😃
@oreivankovic7318
@oreivankovic7318 4 ай бұрын
bro fumbels my brain and proceedes to say:"but, here is a prettier way to do it"
@CST1992
@CST1992 4 ай бұрын
C'mon dude, if you know the rules of log this is a pretty simple problem.
@frostcrackle2374
@frostcrackle2374 3 ай бұрын
So maybe they don't know logarithm rules yet. C'mon dude if you can calculate a Hohmann Transfer, this is a pretty simple problem. ​@@CST1992
@celoreads
@celoreads 2 ай бұрын
@@CST1992 if we know the rules of log we wouldnt be here for an explanation now would we? lmfao
@CST1992
@CST1992 2 ай бұрын
@@celoreads you don't know what log is but you are on a calculus video? Go back to high school... "lmfao"
@abcdqwerty3562
@abcdqwerty3562 2 ай бұрын
@@CST1992Do you not realise that the title of the video literally says precalculus?
@ankitbhadra4105
@ankitbhadra4105 2 ай бұрын
to think that I knew all those formulas you used and wrote on right side but still I didn't knew how putting them together will get me the answer. Thanks a lot. Any advice on how I can solve this thing of not knowing when to put and which things together to solve questions like this ?
@ToddKunz
@ToddKunz 3 ай бұрын
You are so talented in teaching. Thank you for your wonderful videos.
@javify18
@javify18 4 ай бұрын
Very first approach of solving exponential equations is using logarithms.
@nguyenhuuhiep1505
@nguyenhuuhiep1505 25 күн бұрын
Thanks you so much I have been struggle for the exact same question for a long time and now a week before my test I randomly see this video ❤
@DA-gs4gu
@DA-gs4gu 2 ай бұрын
I would consider simplify it with log to the base 10 which yields the same answer as the answer you obtained. We could write it as, X-5log(2)=X+1log(3) Which on further simplification can provide, x= -6.58/0.58= -11.3 And the answer you obtained at the end, log (base)2/3 (96)= -11.26 (approx) I feel its less hectic
@ryg4493
@ryg4493 4 ай бұрын
Bro I'm in 10th grade and I reached (2/3)^x = 96 and was like, "Now what?". Then I realised "Oh, this is out of bounds" 💀💀💀💀
@imagod4796
@imagod4796 4 ай бұрын
this is 9th grade in Germany
@ryg4493
@ryg4493 4 ай бұрын
@@imagod4796 I thought Asia had the toughest math.....
@exip9288
@exip9288 4 ай бұрын
@@imagod4796 This is 12th grade in Turkiye (I know it sucks dumb education system) , but I learned it way before because of calc bc.
@bruv4266
@bruv4266 4 ай бұрын
@@exip9288 We all have shitty educations, here in Romania we learn calculus in 11th grade to 12th grade, they should have system of education like USA, this is where the people can learn it well, we have short time in school but too much to learn, cause it's not just math, its also other lesson that it supposed to be in college like physics, chemistry, etc.
@NotKartikeySingh
@NotKartikeySingh 4 ай бұрын
bro but if u have studied from better school in 9th they would have taught u (in india)
@kb-ly6dx
@kb-ly6dx 25 күн бұрын
This helped me so much, thank you!!!
@Shiva-xp4wv
@Shiva-xp4wv 2 ай бұрын
Bro i am a Engineering major why did i click on this video
@actionj761
@actionj761 Ай бұрын
Same thing im like do i really have nothing better to do than to glance at my freshman year history 😂😂
@haku7335
@haku7335 6 күн бұрын
Watching a guy do math without any mistakes is so entertaining bro.
@user-lw5wi8su7r
@user-lw5wi8su7r 3 ай бұрын
I did it the first way, but with logbase2 instead of ln. Thanks for the video!
@cristalmyth09
@cristalmyth09 2 ай бұрын
I learned this a while ago, i kinda just forgot about it. So yeah, im greatful for the recap
@thomasjacobsen8277
@thomasjacobsen8277 25 күн бұрын
As a student going into my sophomore year next year I am quite happy that I understood all of this!
@btsmochimi7924
@btsmochimi7924 4 ай бұрын
Love this reddit series
@TheLobsterCopter5000
@TheLobsterCopter5000 4 ай бұрын
I'm not sure which form of the result I prefer. The first form uses ln rather than a logarithm with an awkward base, but the second one looks neater.
@nicholasscott3287
@nicholasscott3287 4 ай бұрын
Immediate reaction is "x is not positive integer, because 2 and 3 are prime, so the prime factorisation of 2^i will never equal that of 3^j, where i and j are any positive integer".
@tobybartels8426
@tobybartels8426 4 ай бұрын
This also works for negative integers, even for non-zero rational numbers. So the only possible rational solution would be if both exponents are zero (at the same time, which is not possible in this case).
@deltalima6703
@deltalima6703 4 ай бұрын
You never know if x is a quaternion or is mod |p| or whatever in these dumb questions.
@General12th
@General12th 4 ай бұрын
​@@deltalima6703This is an algebra channel, not a calculus or analysis channel, so don't overthink it.
@jackposiedonforever7774
@jackposiedonforever7774 4 ай бұрын
Correct
@sidhaarthnair8368
@sidhaarthnair8368 2 ай бұрын
I wasn't taught log at school at all. I had to look it up online. Even though we hadn't had proper knowledge about log we still have to use in calculus
@Roro-ej7ke
@Roro-ej7ke 2 ай бұрын
Lol same💀
@Sayan_0-0_
@Sayan_0-0_ 2 ай бұрын
It’s <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="260">4:20</a> am right now and I have no idea why I’m watching this at this time. I told mom to call me at 8 and wake me up. I guess now I have a solid reason to tell her why i was awake.
@joelmiller3067
@joelmiller3067 4 ай бұрын
Thank you sir ❤
@christopher8504
@christopher8504 3 ай бұрын
Another way to do it like the first method that isn't exactly any faster but came to me is: once we have (x - 5) ln(2) = (x + 1) ln(3), (eq. 1) we can build h(x)=(x - 5)/(x + 1) = ln(3)/ln(2), (eq. 2) which will have the same solution despite the domain changing a bit, since the solution isn't near -1. and separate that into two equations: f(x₁)=(x₁ - 5) = ln(3) g(x₂)=(x₂ + 1) = ln(2) so solution x (to h) will be formed by solutions x₁/x₂ to f,g respectively. Which, is a linear system. now we can produce a matrix: [[1, -5, ln(3)], [1, 1, ln(2)]] which we partially row reduce to [[6, 0, 5ln(2) + ln(3)], [0, 6, ln(2) - ln(3)]] recombining, since solution to h is solution to f over solution to g, the 6's cancel and we have: x = (5ln(2) + ln(3))/(ln(2) - ln(3)) which is also the solution for eq.1 I know written out this seems long, but it went a lot faster in my head. A lot of the steps here would be incorrect if I didn't explain them carefully. Also it would probably take longer to row reduce than just doing the algebra but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ let me know if I did anything illegal math manipulations
@argonwheatbelly637
@argonwheatbelly637 3 ай бұрын
I like it. 😊 It reminds me of when I use Synthetic Division to blitz through some polynomial division by hand.
@Christopher-vw5ju
@Christopher-vw5ju 4 ай бұрын
Could you please make a video on how to find values with decimal exponents Example) (15) ^1.4
@E_velynn
@E_velynn 2 ай бұрын
i somehow went through algebra I and II, precalc, calc I and II, yet never saw any of this and now i feel like i was robbed. this looks so interesting and i am now lamenting never having had a math teacher that makes math interesting. thanks, random math guy on the internet!
@Roro-ej7ke
@Roro-ej7ke 2 ай бұрын
Same story🤷‍♀️
@ayushkushwaha550
@ayushkushwaha550 2 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="45">0:45</a> the quicker method after this step would be to divide x-5 by x+1, which would be equal to ln3/ln2. Now use componendo dividendo on both sides :)
@leviackermann4080
@leviackermann4080 4 ай бұрын
Wow that is much easier than i thought
@mr_pc-sco197
@mr_pc-sco197 2 ай бұрын
Watching this as a gcse student in the uk knowing this won’t come up in my exams but this was thoroughly interesting
@prelude8975
@prelude8975 2 ай бұрын
I'm an international relations major and somehow watched this whole video and nodded everytime he looked at me as if im getting everything he says
@siddheshvispute2315
@siddheshvispute2315 4 ай бұрын
Actually the equation becomes easy, when you use log in exponential problems. Thanks ❤🇮🇳
@slulzspot7583
@slulzspot7583 4 ай бұрын
मुझे भी equation देख के वही लगा।
@sahhanaaa
@sahhanaaa 4 ай бұрын
guys we can solve it in another way too. what i did was this: i took log on both lhs and rhs. so the exponent comes down and the equation becomes like such (x-5)log 2=(x+1) log 3 now we know log 2= 0.3010 and log 3=0.477 so we just use those values in the equation (x-5)*0.3010=(x+1)*0.477 0.3010x-1.505=0.477x+0.477 this becomes -0.176x=1.982 x=1.982/-0.176 x=-11.26
@user-bg9xo3ub8q
@user-bg9xo3ub8q 3 ай бұрын
It was not log tho. It's was ln.
@sahhanaaa
@sahhanaaa 3 ай бұрын
@@user-bg9xo3ub8q works w log too
@Gaysandthechaos
@Gaysandthechaos 3 ай бұрын
​@@user-bg9xo3ub8qyeah you'd have to multiply it with 2.303 to convert ln to log That'd be easier ig
@user-bg9xo3ub8q
@user-bg9xo3ub8q 3 ай бұрын
@@Gaysandthechaos yes
@nothingbutpain863
@nothingbutpain863 2 ай бұрын
​@@user-bg9xo3ub8q, in this scenario, either 'ln' or 'log' is acceptable. This is because the bases of logarithms would get cancelled in the process as long as the bases are the same.
@JustMe-pd8zm
@JustMe-pd8zm 2 ай бұрын
Even cooler is the fact that if you simplify the first answer they would be the same(I don't know if I'm right to be honest but iirc then that's cool) For example the numerator (ln 3 + 5 ln 2) can be rewritten as: ln 3 + ln 2⁵ or ln 3 +ln 32 Which is equal to ln (3•32) or ln 96 And the denominator can be rewritten as ln (2/3). Which means the equation can be written as [ ln 96/ln (2/3)] which is just equal to the second answer log base 2/3 of 96!
@DrFunkman
@DrFunkman 4 ай бұрын
I figured immediately it was gonna be complicated because (although I could be wrong) there is no integer exponent of 2 that is divisible by 3
@Cibakro
@Cibakro 4 ай бұрын
That's right -> Just express any exponent of 2 in terms of primes, you will never have the number 3. The same is true that no exponents of 3 are divisible by 2 for the same reason.
@lukaskamin755
@lukaskamin755 4 ай бұрын
you can do backwords in <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="360">6:00</a> ONLY IF a and b are both positive (theoretically a can be 0 , but it's a disputable question)
@amanda-we9fv
@amanda-we9fv 4 ай бұрын
что?
@lukaskamin755
@lukaskamin755 4 ай бұрын
@@amanda-we9fv now it's correct. I mean you can't do backwards if a and b are both negative ,roots of a and b won't be defined then, while root of ab will be defined
@arcturusgd
@arcturusgd 4 ай бұрын
In this case it is. If it is positive that means a,b ∈ N
@PrincessHonk
@PrincessHonk 4 ай бұрын
Nice liked that one
@ridoing9969
@ridoing9969 4 ай бұрын
The professor when ever I start copying the notes. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="214">3:34</a>
@stolenmonkey7477
@stolenmonkey7477 4 ай бұрын
That made me laugh a bit lol
@ceegers
@ceegers 4 ай бұрын
Being a math tutor, at least around where I am, these days everybody's calculator is able to do logs with an arbitrary base, whether directly with the button or further inside a menu.
@whydoineedname4932
@whydoineedname4932 Ай бұрын
Taking log on both sides we get (x-5)log2=(x+1)log3 now value of log 2 and log 3 with base e are 0.69 and 1.09 approx So 0.69x-3.45=1.09x+1.09 0.4x=-4.54 x=-4.54/0.4 which is -11.35 So the ans must be around -11.35!
@belaitedwaif2212
@belaitedwaif2212 2 ай бұрын
You can solve this a lot quicker by just splitting up the exponents into 2^x, 2^-5, 3^x, and 3. Then isolating x is a matter of factoring it out of 3^x/2^x. Then you get log(1/(3*2^5)) with a logBASE of 3/2. The answer is -11.26
@sparshsharma5270
@sparshsharma5270 4 ай бұрын
I always do the first way and it's simple for me.
@thsxi
@thsxi 17 күн бұрын
Personally I did it by equating the bases. Let’s say so 3^x+1 became 2^(log2(3))(x+1) so then you can just do x - 5 = xlog2(3) + log2(3) and re-arrange for x. Ended up with x = (log2(3) + 5) / (1 - log2(3)) ≈ -11.257.
@MCFC-OK-
@MCFC-OK- 4 ай бұрын
oh my fricking god how many whiteboard pen boxes do you have😂
@partelthales
@partelthales 4 ай бұрын
Hey there! Could I just use Log10 instead of Ln, so that the first equation would be Log(2^(x-5)) = Log(3^(x+1))? It comes more naturally to me this way and, knowing that it's added to the two sides of the equation, seems like both ways would be accepted. Is that right? Thanks!
@edwardSteadyHands
@edwardSteadyHands 4 ай бұрын
Yes doesn't make any diff which base you take
@FlynnFromTaiga
@FlynnFromTaiga 4 ай бұрын
It's long. You can write it like (2^x)/32=3*3^x from where you can easily go to (2/3)^x=32*3
@ocaraqe1cara194
@ocaraqe1cara194 3 ай бұрын
Idk why the heck im watching this in 3 year of high school but hell yeah this is so freaking cool
@8rud
@8rud Ай бұрын
What does the plate behind you contain? I like to collect things related to mathematics
@prionsarl4929
@prionsarl4929 4 ай бұрын
What would happen if we tried to first integrate or derivate both sides first, and then solve for X?
@heyyythereitsjulie
@heyyythereitsjulie 3 ай бұрын
In the first example, could you have used log instead of ln? When to use log vs ln?
@nothingbutpain863
@nothingbutpain863 2 ай бұрын
In this scenario, there is not difference. The only situation requiring 'ln' is when the base of an index is 'e'.
@nothingbutpain863
@nothingbutpain863 2 ай бұрын
Also, ln(x) is equivalent to log(e, x).
@Iced-Tea
@Iced-Tea 4 ай бұрын
Could you not also do $$log_{2}3=(x+1)/(x-5)$$ ? (LaTeX format)
@saciookta334
@saciookta334 4 ай бұрын
Does (5.2log9) same?
@waliullahmazumder
@waliullahmazumder 2 ай бұрын
I just woke up in the afternoon,and a pg student of computer science,, still watching this before eating by breakfast
@imran_sholeh
@imran_sholeh 2 ай бұрын
I have a question sir. Why we need to use ln instead of log, or we can use which?
@sonvisharma5264
@sonvisharma5264 Ай бұрын
Hi...we can use log in 1st method instead of ln ...i used log and the ans is same, u just need to know values of log2 and log3
@imran_sholeh
@imran_sholeh Ай бұрын
@@sonvisharma5264 i see.... Thank you
@gampas7973
@gampas7973 26 күн бұрын
im in 12th, we learnt this last year, i have my maths test in 1 hour, why am i watching this
@caseysunderland4927
@caseysunderland4927 2 ай бұрын
As a sophomore in College math, this actually makes sense
@Zhiowe
@Zhiowe 3 ай бұрын
Learned logarithms 4 months ago, forgot them, then relearned them here
@canirunit8162
@canirunit8162 2 ай бұрын
I'm not sure why I'm clicking on this. I am an economics student and just reading about consumer behavior theory, and it contains Lagranian function, which I've never heard before and try to find wtf is that equation but anyway I'm satisfied with this video.
@reeceherman555
@reeceherman555 2 ай бұрын
I'm a sophomore engineer major at a top university in the nation and had zero clue how to do this. I'm cooked
@nihinivi9757
@nihinivi9757 4 ай бұрын
What if we do 2^x=3 and then do log on both sides to get x log 2=log 3, log2/log3=x and then 2^x-5=2^(log2/log3)x+1 then do x-5=(log2/log3)x+1 and then work it out?
@expiredmilk5435
@expiredmilk5435 4 ай бұрын
X= log3/log2 not log2/log3
@archit5031
@archit5031 2 ай бұрын
I m a bio student why am watching this Great explanation 👍
@kimsonvu7357
@kimsonvu7357 3 ай бұрын
Thanks u verry much
@vivicries
@vivicries Ай бұрын
i just approximated to solve it quickly: x-5/x+1 = log3/log2 x-5/x+1 = 0.4771/0.3010 10x-50 = 16x+16 x=-11
@SuperDeadparrot
@SuperDeadparrot Ай бұрын
x = ln(96)/ln(2/3) + 2*pi*i/ln(2/3) * k where k is an integer. When k=0, you get a real answer.
@Josh-bn4ki
@Josh-bn4ki 15 күн бұрын
I got to the second answer, but thought there was more simplifying to do. Whoops. I always forget the ln rules too, so I didn't even think of that way.
@user-kx8iu3xs4t
@user-kx8iu3xs4t 18 күн бұрын
Great job, I follow you from Iraq 🇮🇶♥️
@IamFlaem1
@IamFlaem1 3 ай бұрын
"96... very nice" Dunno why I laughed so hard at that. But I learned log functions just last year in school and forgot about how fun math is. Really nice vid man!
@Matthew-px4vu
@Matthew-px4vu 4 ай бұрын
I solved it in a similar way somewhat. Started with taking the natural log but instead grouped terms like: (x-5)/(x+1)=ln3/ln2 (x+1-6)/(x+1) = ln3/ln2 1-6/(x+1)=ln3/ln2 (x+1)=-6/(ln3/ln2-1) x=-6/(ln3/ln2-1)-1 x~=-11.257
@nothingbutpain863
@nothingbutpain863 2 ай бұрын
That seems more intricate.
@Yonkage-ik5qb
@Yonkage-ik5qb 2 ай бұрын
Took precalculus in high school roughly 20 years ago. NEVER learned this.
@LorxusIsAFox
@LorxusIsAFox 4 ай бұрын
Not an approximation; the two answers are exactly the same. This we can see through a combination of the change of base formula and mainpulation of logs in the numerator and denominator of version #1: ln 3 + 5 ln 2 = ln 3 + ln 32 = ln 96; ln 2 - ln 3 = ln 2/3. As for a workable approximation, we should clean this up a bit first: for X = ln(96)/ln(2/3), we have X = -ln(96)/ln(3/2), and conveniently for log approximations, 3/2^2 ~ sqrt(5), 3/2^3 ~ sqrt(11). Now, 9870/9216 ~ 1.071, so we take 96^2 = 9216 ~ 9870 = 11^3 * sqrt(11) * sqrt(5) ~ (3/2)^23, 96 ~ (3/2)^23/2 for a final approximation of X = -11.5, which seems to agree OK with calculator results of ~-11.257.
@CuriousMindDevesh
@CuriousMindDevesh 4 ай бұрын
I exactly do this and get a error of approx. 0.25
@travo6805
@travo6805 3 ай бұрын
I played Mario kart tour every day during honors precalc in high school and I regret it every day as an engineering major in university
@davidthomasxyz
@davidthomasxyz 4 ай бұрын
very nice.
@pappujha8577
@pappujha8577 2 ай бұрын
Why did you not use log table
@Inventron19
@Inventron19 4 ай бұрын
What I like the best about this guy is he still uses a whiteboard and not a smart board
@dhruvbhargava2559
@dhruvbhargava2559 4 ай бұрын
is 48 an option ?
@markosverdhi
@markosverdhi 4 ай бұрын
My friends in my old algebra class had a funny way of remembering the ln(x^2)=2lnx theorem. We called it the yeet theorem because you take the exponent and yeet that shit to the front
@adithyakashyap5845
@adithyakashyap5845 4 ай бұрын
Why not take log on both sides and apply Log(x)^n = nlogx And then reduce it to (x-5)log2=(x+1)log3
@unholyravioli989
@unholyravioli989 4 ай бұрын
That's precisely what he did
@adithyakashyap5845
@adithyakashyap5845 4 ай бұрын
Oh😂...
@shrike1861
@shrike1861 4 ай бұрын
When do we use ln and log in both sides?
@iancoffey2797
@iancoffey2797 4 ай бұрын
@shrike1861 When the base of the exponents (here they are the 2 and 3) cannot be written as a power of either. e.g. if one side had 2^x and the other side had 32^x-1 we could rewrite the 32 as a power of 2, making it 2^5(x-1). You can then remove the common base and solve. That can't be done here so you must use log or ln
@TheRealFallenDemon
@TheRealFallenDemon 4 ай бұрын
Damn, if you were my high school teacher I would have learned mathematical induction way before the week before my final exam
@aizxensrq5076
@aizxensrq5076 4 ай бұрын
Am i still correct if i do the "prettier way" but i use ln 2/3 instead of log base 2/3??
@aheinrich2535
@aheinrich2535 4 ай бұрын
Yes
@spspspd
@spspspd 4 ай бұрын
로그공식 까먹었던 걸 복습하게 되는 영상. 이거보고 다시 생각났네요
@snmnurr
@snmnurr 2 ай бұрын
Hi in which grade do you learn logarithms in Korea?
@spspspd
@spspspd 2 ай бұрын
@snmnurr people learn logarithms in 11th grade in Korea, but Im now in high school in the US :)
@MrTheStephReal
@MrTheStephReal 4 ай бұрын
But if you can use any log fir the first solution, how do I know that the result doesn't change depending on that
@somaannn
@somaannn 4 ай бұрын
because you take the same log on both sides of the equation. Like if you do +3 on both sides, it doesnt change anything since it cancels out.
@makakh2620
@makakh2620 4 ай бұрын
Bro he the goat
@camperkiller3
@camperkiller3 3 ай бұрын
I don't know if anyone else has pointed this out, but you shouldn't have used x at the end when explaining how to use the change of base rule. It will definitely confuse people who are not very familiar with math as you have an equation for x right next to it on the board.
@user-yr1ip8sw2o
@user-yr1ip8sw2o 5 күн бұрын
Why am I watching this at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="148">2:28</a>AM when I completed my high school last year
@vibhashsingh7547
@vibhashsingh7547 3 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="145">2:25</a> imo you should have transposed the terms to other side respectively instead of subracting/adding on both the sides
@amitapatil1881
@amitapatil1881 2 ай бұрын
Anime Dekhne Vale life mae kuch nahi kar sakte
@barmherzigsein3259
@barmherzigsein3259 4 ай бұрын
Very insightful! A superb lesson. Thank You! Salomè (Peace be with You)! Mögest Du in das Licht, der Wahrheit, und dem SEIN der Schöpfung leben.
@garrettbates2639
@garrettbates2639 4 ай бұрын
Equivalent answer with slightly less distribution: 2^(x - 5) = 3^(x + 1) (x - 5) ln 2 = (x + 1) ln 3 x - 5 = (x + 1) log2(3) x - 5 = x log2(3) + log2(3) x - x log2(3) = 5 + log2(3) x = (5 + log2(3)) / (1 - log2(3))
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