How Do Spanish Surnames Work? | Vlogmas 12

[@kimmykun]

Legally-speaking, women here in Puerto Rico don't change their name upon marriage. They can informally add their husband's last name with "de", but I can't remember anyone doing it that wasn't over 70 years old. At least here in P.R., the "de" thing died out in the 80s.

[@SpanishandGo]

This is very interesting! Thanks for pointing it out! ¡Un saludo! -May

[@haylamassieltapialopez7562]

En México tmb! A veces solo las familias legendarias que aún tienen a su bisabuela viva tienen el tipico: "margarita de López", a veces siento que venía de algún tipo de emulación a cuando en los grandes bailes europeos presentaban a las personas así antes de entrar al salón de baile, Margarita Flores izcarraga de Montediu

[@eukarya_]

Actually in Spain surnames are acumulative and you technically carry all of your ancestors surnames (but only use the fist two) I know as far as 8. Also in Spain we dropped the culture of using "de" long ago, it became a thing of the nobility.

[@edugomez3c]

I have a friend whose surname is De Tena

[@delisandwitch8411]

At least in Puerto Rico we'll forever carry our father's and mother's last name even after marriage.

[@anarbernardinoa262]

En México por igual.

[@pamnob2259]

But my father abandoned me

[@eukarya_]

@Tortuga González García In Spain it works the same Name + father/mother first surname+ mother/father first surname And marriage doesn't change anything I don't know about Portugal

[@billderinbaja3883]

... and other cultures should respect your right to consider that important... but it sure is confusing.

[@lobaxx]

@@billderinbaja3883 Why is it confusing? For me it is confusing that two married people have the same last name, because that implies they are siblings

[@styremcstyre]

My experience with my Filipino host family is that they use the Anglo-Saxon and Spanish naming convention. They use first name, middle name or middle initial (mother's maiden surname) and last name (father's last name obviously). So Maria Abad Santos can write her name in three ways: 1.) Maria Abad Santos 2.) Maria A. Santos 3.) Maria Santos In certain legal documents her name is written as *Maria Santos y Abad*. Now when she marries, say John Perez Garcia, she has three options to write her name: 1.) Using her maiden name, hence no change, Maria Abad Santos 2.) She can change her name following her husband's last name and thus becoming Maria Santos (her maiden surname becomes her middle name) Garcia. 3.) Or using the hyphenated surname Maria Abad Santos-Garcia. I was confused when this was explained to me by my host mother.

[@Christian_Adell]

This was brought to my attention when I was creating a family tree. My husband is half Puerto Rican on his father’s side, so I found it a little confusing as I went through all the birth certificates and census forms and found combined last names. I noticed “y” was used to combine names on the old birth certificates I came across. It was so interesting!

[@SpanishandGo]

Yes, the "y" is not as common now, but it was also used in Mexico many years ago. Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@Christian_Adell]

Spanish and Go Thank you guys for these interesting videos! I’ve learned so much from you both!

[@imaewetoober]

I'm looking for a María del Rosario Cayetana Paloma Alfonsa Victoria Eugenia Fernanda Teresa Francisca de Paula Lourdes Antonia Josefa Fausta Rita Castor Dorotea Santa Esperanza Fitz-James Stuart, Silva, Falcó y Gurtubay. She dropped her driver's license in the hotel lobby. Lol. (FYI that is a real persons name)

[@SpanishandGo]

LOL! Wow! It must be a pain for this person to get any kind of paperwork done with her name on it! :p

[@eladiocofresi5202]

Makes me think of Pablo Diego José Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno María de los Remedios Cipriano de la Santísima Trinidad Ruiz y Picasso, better known as Pablo Picasso.

[@rodneyprince18]

Great idea for a video, this is very useful. As for the a woman taking the husbands last name it's really no different than in the US. Women drop their maiden name (traditionally) and take on the spouses last name. Same thing, we just don't use an equivalent of "de", but the end result is the same, the implication was that the wife now belonged to the husband. Think about it, why did the father give the bride away? Because she was the father's property and responsibility. Once she got married she became the property and responsibility of the husband. So yeah, marriage was pretty machista back then. We've just conveniently forgotten that bit of history. Marriage in its beginnings wasn't about love, it was about economics. The concept of marriage for love is a relatively new in the historical timeline. The concept of marriage in the beginning is waaaay different than what it is now.

[@SpanishandGo]

You’re right, Rodney. Honestly, I didn’t even think much about it when I said it was “shocking” to me because in my mind taking a spouses last name is already antiquated. I know it still happens, but for my generation it feels like it’s on its way out the door simply because it doesn’t make sense in today’s world. Thanks for watching as always! Un saludo. -Jim

[@kazzuo32]

Honey my mom was the one that push me into this world Im not giving up her name. Btw my family think are royalty we have 3 names plus the apellidos 😂😂

[@SpanishandGo]

Right!? I love my mom too much to drop her name too. :p

[@teengodees4040]

In Puerto Rico, women don't lose their mother's last name after marriage. We are taught that both surnames represent our heritage and are equally valuable, so none of them must not be omitted. When their children grow up, they tell them when they have to sign a document or something to write down their full names. Basically, to us, not including our mother's last name in our signatures or even after marriage is like we're denying our heritage from her family side.

[@elimelendez2024]

My family is from Puerto Rico and from a genealogy stand point it is great that they use both name because it much easier to trace back the family names. Also in the US the women tend to lose their father's surname in addition to their mother's surname, so in Latin America at least women keeps one of her surnames.

[@gsdguy2692]

Sometimes we (as North Americans) think our way of thinking and doing things is the only "right way". Just because we don't understand a custom doesn't mean it's wrong. Oftentimes we look at other cultures and think we need to teach them how to do things the "right" way. Like they say, there's more than one way to skin a cat. Without cultural difference, this world would be a boring place:) Great video! I look forward to seeing the rest of this vlogmas series.

[@mariorossi3600]

Mexico is in north america what are you talking about?

[@JoeMartinez18]

@@mariorossi3600 Let's be honest... they just consider North American everyone that speaks english.. so Canada and the US, not Mexico

[@Dangic23]

Its worst in the US where the Woman loses her family name completely. Adding "De" is less demeaning than the US.

[@aquamarina7944]

And it's not even that common anymore. At least in my family no woman has changed her name to put the husband's last name, and as a young woman that was born in 2005 I'm not accepting that for me, either.

[@agentbrian8485]

Some Spanish naming could be jaun de la Vega

[@DarlaReborn]

In the States, the woman completely gives up her name of origin- which is her father’s. So, Mexican women adding a “de” is not much different from an American woman being completely disconnected from her maternal side in naming her. Living in PR, now, I’ve decided to reattach my birth name and add it to my children’s names!

[@SpanishandGo]

You’re right, i didn’t even think of that while we were recording this. I was under the impression that was a dying tradition because of how many people we know that don’t change their names when they get married, but you’re right, it’s probably still more common for the woman to change her last name still. I think it’s great that you reattached you’re birth name. Thanks for watching! Un saludo. -Jim

[@DarlaReborn]

Spanish and Go Definitely! Thanks!!

[@JaredMondragon]

@@SpanishandGo but the info is not accurate. Women in Mexico don't change their last mame when they get married. Some of them say they're 'de' but legally don't change it. At least I don't know any women who has done it.

[@KeijiJohnLibadisos]

In the Philippines, we carry also the surnames of our father and mother. Filipino name composes of Given Name, Middle Name, and Surname ... Filipinos can have 1 or more Given Name. The Middle Name will be your mother's maiden Surname and the Surname will be your father's Surname. For example: Juan Emmanuel Lopez Garcia Juan Emmanuel is the Given Name Lopez is the Middle Name which is your mother's maiden Surname Garcia is the Surname which is your father's Surname We can also write that as: Juan Emmanuel L. Garcia Juan Emmanuel Garcia Garcia, Juan Emmanuel Lopez Garcia, Juan Emmanuel L. Garcia, Juan Emmanuel

[@allaincedrickhilario2017]

Baliktad kasi yung sa atin. Nauuna ang apelyido ng nanay.

[@KeijiJohnLibadisos]

@@allaincedrickhilario2017 uu

[@chinchanchou]

Spanish tradition

[@chinchanchou]

Filipinos use like a portugueses first Mother second father

[@feltonite]

I don't really have an opinion on Spanish surnames. As Jim said, who am I to judge? I figure it is what it is. BTW, when my son (an American) got married, he took his wife's name, which greatly shocked his mother and me.

[@spicykola4301]

I can see why!

[@josgelymrg]

Como puertorriqueña tengo dos apellidos pero desde que me mudé a los Estados Unidos uso solamente un apellido porque como acá no es costumbre las personas tienden a utilizar tu primer apellido como segundo nombre y tu segundo apellido como primer apellido para evitar confusiones solo uso un apellido.

[@eladiocofresi5202]

My birth name is only Edwin Camacho, due to not being born in Puerto Rico, and my mother hating middle names. Upon googling my name, I came across some interesting other people with the same name as me, so professionally, I went added my mother's name. On the same note, I feel it is a way to reference and honor both parents. This also came from a time when my parents had separated.

[@diegodelperu409]

They said is rare "de..." but actually hispanic women mantain her father's surname and add the husband's surname. But in english the father's wife surname simply is eliminated xd It's remember me when angloamericans say "spanish were bad against amerindian cultures", but angloamerican simply exterminated them xd Spanish was mixed with them

[@angeles5664]

Lo del Apellido depende. Acá en Argentina, ya no se usa el " de gimenez" , ahora la mujer conserva su nombre y apellido, si antes era María García, seguirá siendo igual después de casada. En cuanto al ceder los apellidos, se pueden usar los 2 apellidos(marido y mujer) o solamente del padre o madre, depende de la eleccion de la familia.

[@andrearoces8597]

We Filipinos are also called as the latins of Asia. We have Spanish based culture too. Our surnames are by the way Spanish. Name Filipino presidents and identify their surnames.

[@randomsauworld9934]

2:56 Nobody uses "de" I have never met someone who uses "de", the wife's last name does not change, at least not legally, Mexican laws are not so flexible with name changes, it is almost impossible to change your Name, you have to make an appeal in court, go to trial, quite a mess. 3:12 to me it sounds weirder to change a woman's last name when she gets married, it's like you erase the fact that she has a family, that's more bizarre to me

[@amo_res9266]

In Philippines it goes like this. It’s a mix between Spanish and American system (Personal name) (personal name) (middle name/mother’s lastname) (Father’s last name) Example of full Filipino name: John Michael Santos Garcia

[@yorkycayetano2823]

How do you deal with american forms? I get stuck every time I need to fill out forms because we have two given names and two family names?

[@elisantos4909]

your explanation is so clear, actually it helps me a lot I was confused. We spanish speakers use to have a problem with this topic.

[@HeliofromSpain]

Nice video! In Spain and as far as I know in most Spanish-speaking countries people have two surnames, first from the father's side (in Spain is now possible to put first the mom's) and second from the mother's side). Thus, no woman loses her surnames and origins when married, although people from anglo-saxon name system may be rather puzzled when noticing that no surname "matches" within a Spanish family accoding to their logic. As for "de", maybe it was some outdated tradition about 60 or 80 years ago adding the husband's surname to the wife's in social contexts in some high-class people in Spain.

[@thequantumcat184]

Actually, in Spain it's way more complicated, because you get all your parents surnames, which includes all of their parents' surnames and so on, basically doubling every generation (if you know all of them and they aren't forgotten or smthg)

[@asoiafan]

I live in Spain, my father and my mother are married but my first surname is my mother's. Nowadays, it's getting more common for parents to discuss which surname goes first for the baby (at least I don't think it's forbidden in Spain). Also, all Spanish women I know keep the two surnames, but mostly they're referred only by their names. But Idk if that's the same thing all over Spain. This is only my experience. And btw, at least in my region isn't usual to have a middle name.

[@emanueldelacruz1101]

Siempre copiado a los Anglos. Segundones.

[@jkadmin9460]

You're doing a great job with Vlogmas!

[@elsitazone]

im from PR , my mom kept her birth name, just like almost everyone i know

[@kessler003]

No married woman in PR has the: "de Hubbys last name".

[@gabrielfernandez4897]

@@kessler003 Nope. In Puerto Rico all women keep their 2 last names after marriage

[@Fer-eq4mn]

Neither in Mexico , like that used to be common but for the social aspect, as far as I know the woman legal name remains the same.

[@micomentario8908]

You're all welcome in the Philippines

[@rafaelantonio7128]

@3:05 Jim you say that this was shocking to you because it sounds like the woman “belongs” to the husband, it’s no different than the wife changing her last name to the husband’s like in the states

[@SpanishandGo]

You’re right, but I suppose that’s because i think women changing their names for men in general is weird. I think it’s a practice that’s dying out and will continue to as time goes on. Thanks for watching! -Jim

[@pamelar.2161]

Hello! I showed this video to my Spanish class (I teach at a community college) and my students are curious to know what last name you give your child(ren), if you have any. If this is too personal to answer, I understand. Mil gracias.

[@SpanishandGo]

Hi, Pamela! Thanks for sharing our video with your class. We don’t have children, but traditionally, we’d name our son something like “Santiago Eduardo Fricker Larios” That’s one middle name and two last names - my last name first and then May’s first last name. I hope that helps! De nada. 😊

[@TheLanguageLady]

Great explanation. I was born Sandra Ivelisse Quiñones Barbosa. Never thought anything about it until my friends from the mainland mentioned how long my last name was.

[@SpanishandGo]

Same here! Y es un martirio hacer que todo el nombre quepa en cualquier papel donde hay que escribir el nombre completo en los EE.UU. ¿no? :p ¡Un saludo! -May

[@boringopr4369]

Wow you have a very famous last name ever heard of Duarte Barbosa born in 1480 in Portugal he was a writer and an officer he was on the first trip to go around the world with Fernando de Magallanes, in Portuguese is (Fernão de Magalhães)in English is (Ferdinand Magellan)Ferdinand Magellan was married to Duarte Barbosas sister Maria Caldera Beatriz Barbosa there's also another famous Barbosa ever heard of Jose Celso Barbosa Alcala was a physician,sociologist and political leader; he was the first black Puerto Rican and for that matter of African descent to earn a medical degree he was born in 1857 died in 1921 he earned his degree in 1880 and he was the first person from Puerto Rico to earned a degree in the United States there's your history 101 I love history hey be proud Barbosa👍

[@TheLanguageLady]

@@boringopr4369 That's interesting that you say that because my ancestry says I have Portuguese DNA. 🤔

[@boringopr4369]

@@TheLanguageLady exactly your last name Barbosa is Portuguese

[@boringopr4369]

@@TheLanguageLady Jose Celso Barbosa Alcala is of African and Portuguese descent unless he was adopted that part I wouldn't know that would take an extra effort of research that Google just don't provide I'm guessing that it is probable that Jose Celso Barbosa Alcala was a slave and probably adopted the Barbosa last name Sorry I didn't think about this part from the comment I made

[@thevictoriaabia]

I actually like the idea of the naming structure. Maybe when I move to a Latin American country, I will follow the same.

[@chinchanchou]

First father second Mother and if you marry no lost your surnames

[@chinchanchou]

You are aprt of your family no a part of the family of your husband is a aliance of two families

[@lupecallejas1979]

In Mexico the "De" thing is more about tradition. Some women use it (most don’t) to imply they are married. But the name is not legally changed. There are also last names with the "De" like "De la Garza" or "De Hoyos" so one guy could be named "Jorge De la Garza De Hoyos".

[@smiling_queen5326]

Soy de Costa Rica, y en nuestro país nosotras las mujeres no cambiamos nuestros apellidos cuando decidimos casarnos. Nosotros mantenemos siempre nuestros apellidos con los que nacimos. By the way, I enjoyed your video. It was son interesting!!😊

[@ScienceNotFaith]

I'm dating a Mexican and we have this "discussion" a lot. From the American standpoint I understand what's going on, but it's very difficult to know which name is which. For example if a person includes their middle name they might have four "names" whereas if they don't they would have three. From US understanding the 3 names would be viewed as first middle last. Just how are we supposed to know? And in the US 4 names are not uncommon either - first middle confirmation, last. We know the rule here. And hyphenated names are obviously considered as one even if the origin is a concatenation of two. The problem we have with Spanish "last names" is that there is no obvous part which is/are last "name(s)". But, this helps some. Thanks.

[@ScienceNotFaith]

@Tortuga González García ... And that's "easy?". I still think it's confusing.

[@ScienceNotFaith]

@Tortuga González García It isn't the "last names" directly. For instance if I see an English name of Mary Elizabeth Jackson. I know that Mary is the first name, Elizabeth is her middle and Jackson is her last. In Latino communities I can't know if her last name is Jackson or Elizabeth Jackson. In English if both names are used as a last name, it's hyphenated so we know that what we see is only her first and last names "Mary Elizabeth-Jackson." Without the hyphen, for an outsider like me, it's confusing and difficult to know, leading to possible embarrassment or insult.

[@shawnvegavelez121]

I love my last name, but I'm tired of always explaining why I have two.Everyone in my family has four names and that confuses so many people. Three are some women in my family that have five.

[@Juan01010]

hello, i am asian and i am married in spanish speaking country which means 2 surnames, i want to update my surname what surname should i use? thank you

[@thevictoriaabia]

I have a question. You know how in the US, a couple is referred to as Mr and Mrs "the husband's last name" e.g Mr & Mrs Trump. How is it in Latin American countries?

[@yellowfoxwontshutup420]

my introduction to spanish teacher in college linked to this video for his first assignment LOL

[@sebastiangomezosorio823]

Hello from a Colombian!! I have friends from a lot of different Hispanic countries (Peru, Spain, Ecuador, Bolivia, Venezuela) and never in my life have heard about a women who get the "de (insert husband surname)", at least not from someone that have less than ~75 years old. Is interesting (and shocking) that you say that is a common thing in Mexico, but I think is really misleading to generalize that for the rest of Hispanic countries, were is not even a thing (the majority of the time). For me the idea of someone changing their name sounds wrong in so many different ways. Female keeping their full names is one of the things that i like the most from Spanish history, thankfully the "de (husband surname )" is not a thing anymore in the majority of the countries, and even there is better than changing the entire family name to the husband.

[@Fer-eq4mn]

Also in some states in Mexico we can put the mother’s last name first when someone is born, and women (at least in my state) DON’T take her husband last name, some do the “de .... “ but only for the social aspect not the legal.

[@abi1021]

My fiancé is Mexican-American. I have one surname. He has two. Any opinions on what I might take as a married last name? I don’t want to keep my maiden name or hyphenate or anything.

[@HypnoReflexGuy]

Interesting, i did'nt realize that 2 last names were a common thing in Spanish culture . Nice to learn something new daily if possible. i really enjoy your video's, very enjoyable.

[@chinchanchou]

In hispanic countries the Mother is more important more than the father i think in the past after than rome empire the iberians were matriarcal in us cutlture the women are liberal is free... in us countries for tradition all know 8 surnames (is because nobody like children with jewish or muslim surnames ) 4 the father and 4 the Mother but in actual days legal paper only have two first the fahter first the Mother

[@emanueldelacruz1101]

@Tortuga González García Sexism? Give me a break

[@MrCashoos]

The "de" thing is not used anymore in any Spanish speaking country. Some people still use it unofficially to refer to someone's wife but legally the woman doesn't change or add another last name.

[@AAxd113]

3:09 you have already judge them. And how come you were shocked while most people in your country are doing the same?

[@SpanishandGo]

Hey - did you know that you can simultaneously question the norm in your own country and with the norm in other countries too?

[@Karen4-z8m]

i havent met any women with the ‘de’ attached to their last name here in mexico ... is it specific to wealthier families? n yes I love having my husbands last name

[@MrCashoos]

It's an old custom, no Spanish speaking country use it anymore.

[@soniarivera2383]

No just no! I kept my last name when I got married. I’m from PR. The “de” died I think in the 70s

[@karlo4719]

and what about children? what will be they surname?

[@gabrielfernandez4897]

@@karlo4719 Name + Middle Name + Father's First Last Name + Mother's First Last Name

[@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123]

I do agree their are male chauvinist in the world and some cultures suppress women but I don’t think taking your husbands name is chauvinist at all or in any way degrading. And it is not chauvinist or suppression for a husband to work and the wife stay home and take care of the kids and home, we were better families and better people back then, kids aren’t supposed to be raised in daycare !!!In the Bible, we are taught to leave our mother and father and cleve to our husband....when you marry you become one ! So I feel the traditional taking your husbands name is more about biblical principles than it is about suppression ! I think it’s neat that Spanish speaking people give their children both names.

[@rodneyprince18]

You have a great view of this in the modern world, that's awesome. Historically however, the woman taking the mans last name had more to do with the man's ownership and responsibility for his wife, at least in the US. Women had virtually zero rights at the time and couldn't really own or do much of anything without their husband.

[@chinchanchou]

In hispanic countries the Mother is more important more than the father i think in the past after than rome empire the iberians were matriarcal in us cutlture the women are liberal is free... in us countries for tradition all know 8 surnames (is because nobody like children with jewish or muslim surnames ) 4 the father and 4 the Mother but in actual days legal paper only have two first the fahter first the Mother

[@gregandjanetabbott125]

¿cómo nombrarías a un bebé que tiene una madre con un nombre como el que dijiste, Rosita María Jiménez de Mendoza? ¿Cuántos apellidos se guardan? :)

[@johanreillo8403]

El primer apellido

[@rosasoto43]

My father came from Puerto Rico, and was told their children's last name in MA was Father's last name ONLY. We all have our Mother's maiden name as our middle name. My mother had to change her last name to our father's family name. Same thing happened to my Grandmother. My daughter in Puerto Rico has her father and my last name, husband's last name is omitted, but the children have his last name, and her father's last name too.

[@SpanishandGo]

Interesting. Why did he do that? Did he think that it'd be better to assimilate in that way, or was there another reason? Thanks for watching! Un saludo. -Jim

[@rosasoto43]

@@SpanishandGo He said they told him at hospital, when they came to register the birth at the hospital

[@EinAmethyst]

In Colombia we don't use the "de" label, women just keep both of their last names, the one given by the father and the one given by the mother at birth. Not even my grandma had her name changed and I have not known a single woman alive who has the name like that (I lived both in the country side and in cities, just it is too odd)

[@87Sharakane]

Ok so does this mean that when that married woman has children they will get their maternal grandfathers surname plus their fathers surname?

[@johanreillo8403]

I was born on FL but raised on PR and when I saw my birth certificate I was like where’s my other last name cuz here I always write it even tho it isn’t on the certificate 😂 but I like the 2 last names having only one from a parent is kinda stupid everybody should have both I believe

[@awit1979]

nice video

[@CopperBooom]

I love that you both kept your names! I was married and changed my name, and I always kinda resented it. (I also didn’t have a great relationship so that didn’t help). Then I changed it back to my maiden name when I got divorced. It’s so much work. I said never again, I was born with this name and I will die with this name! I later married a wonderful man who didn’t mind I wanted to keep my name. I also let him keep his name! 😂😂 fair is fair!

[@Buruquena23]

In Puerto Rico most women don’t adopt their husbands last name. My mother never did. There’s always exceptions like women who lived in the U.S. and moved back to the island. Also women who are married to VIP’s like the Governor or the mayor or high society. I live in the U.S. and changed it to my husbands last name, but kept my fathers last name as a middle name.

[@elisantos4909]

In Peru is the same, the father´s last name prevails.

[@niccolowadia3761]

so what you are saying is that the woman takes -- de + her huband & father in- law's 1st Surnames ??? Rosita Maria Mendoza Ramirez , becomes R M. Mendoza de + husband's 1st surname ??

[@JenniferJusino85]

No tengo "middle name" 🤣 no me siento boricua 🤣🤣 cuando me preguntan digo: "Soy Jennifer, 'Jennifer pelá' " 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Excelente video.

[@MrGuiputxi]

En España si se ponen de acuerdo ambos padres a la hora de decidir el orden de los apellidos con el 1º hijo perfecto y si no lo decide el funcionario del registro , el resto de hijos que nazcan tendrán el mismo orden de los apellidos del hermano mayor , luego cada hijo al cumplir la mayoría de edad se pueden cambiar el orden de los apellidos o incluso renunciar el del padre si este a sido mal marido (violencia domestica por ejemplo) o padre y entonces llevarán los apellidos de la madre . No se comprende que en Países como US se lleve un solo Apellido o incluso Apellido de casada . Una mujer no es propiedad de nadie y que las de el movimiento Me Too no protesten por ese sistema de apellido de casada sorprende incluso que Demócratas como Hillary Rodham que se le conozca por Clinton aunque su marido le pusiese los cuernos con la Lewinsky

[@chinchanchou]

Xq todavía no caes que los gringos están en contra de todo lo que venga de España? Tratan de desestabilizar todos nuestros países con ridiculeces mientras que ellos son los atrasados

[@boringopr4369]

My mother's middle name happens to be Maria in my opinion I think the U.S. should ad the mother's last name it's seems to be on the machista side of the spectrum when the U.S. uses only the fathers last name it shuns all the females wich I my self do not like I like to use both last names and my two last names is quite funny being that my father is an American and my mother is from Puerto Rico ultimately both last name came from Europe anyways that's what I think both last names should be included in everything(drivers licenses,passport,etc etc) God bless 🌺✌peace✌🌺

[@dillj1000]

I applaud this cultural phenomenon of Mexico and Spain. After all, a lady when she marries belongs to her husband both spiritually and in a physical way. After all our first parent Adam in Genesis said to his wife Eve, you are bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh. A lady once she marries a man belongs to him exclusively, he must take care and only love her in the marital embrace. I think other cultures, especially Christian ones should adopt this beautiful custom.😊😊😊

[@camaroaddict6478]

I think it is fine the Spanish natives handle there names because that is your culture. We just have to feal with it. If as latins, you decide differently then that is you'll call. I'm fine with it. If it isn't broken, don't fix it.

[@SpanishandGo]

Sure, we're certainly not trying to change that. We just wanted to share how this works. Thanks for watching! -Jim

[@davidjones535]

So in other words I'd be David Alan Jones Sharp ? But where's does my grandmother's O'Brien and Meltz fit in ?

[@kessler003]

Only our parents paternal last names.

[@billderinbaja3883]

Why do you see traditional Spanish naming as "backward" and "patriarchal"... apparently in comparison to US naming convention?.. where traditionally the woman takes the man's last name (losing her "maiden" name). Both are equally patriarchal naming systems, designed to keep names reasonably simple. To complicate matters more, when a man & woman are married and have a child, the child get's the mans last name... again, patriarchy... but easy to follow. Go back in time and other cultures, and many instances of very long and convoluted names... isn't life already complicated enough without that? KISS Funny story about the bank assigned name... I've lived in Mexico for 16 years and had the same experience several times.

[@SpanishandGo]

Only because it seems to be going out of practice. May didn’t change her name when we married. Many of our friends did not changed their names when they married. Yes, I completely understand what the tradition has been in the US. All I’m saying is that times seem to be changing. -Jim

[@kanorysvelez2896]

Yo solo llevo los apellidos de mi padre y mi madre, no llevo el de mi esposo porque no soy su propiedad. Creo que nuestra madre es muy importante en nuestras vidas y dado que no nacimos de una mata de plátanos sino de una mujer ella merece que llevemos su apellido también. Mi hijo estudia medicina en Houston y en su bata de médico añadió mi apellido utilizando una rallita o dash para unir ambos apellidos padre y madre y no tener problemas.( Vázquez- Vélez)

[@emanueldelacruz1101]

Bajo esa lógica tu hijo es una propiedad por llevar tu apellido

[@Dangic23]

In the US, the Woman disappears from the picture when she marries, adopting the husband's name....although there is no drop of blood in her with that surname.

[@shutterchick79]

In a way it's actually more inclusive, because the kids keep the connection with their mother's side of the family. US family names erase the wife's background completely, in favor of the man. In this system, the women stayes herself, just attached to her husband's family...

[@karlo4719]

I think that practice is fair enough. I don't see any problem for a woman to take her husband's last name or vice versa. if the husband keeps his last name and his wife, what will be the last name of the childrens? will you then "fight" whose last name will be first? so on the end that is practical reason for this, once you will be obligated to drop one of your grandparents! in my country wife and husband have same surname(s) and that is practical and fair enough.

[@yaraserrano9426]

It’s simple you have a mother

[@junzhang7989]

Podría hacer un video sobre español de negocios por favor 🙏? Creo que hay muchas personas lo necesitan😊😊😊

[@nickkkk495]

What are you going to do with kids?

[@SpanishandGo]

Raise them, I suppose. 😆 Good question. I guess we’ll cross that bridge if we get there.

[@JonathanMoosey]

I’m for leaving age old traditions alone, especially in cultures different than mine. I don’t need to impose my beliefs on a different culture.

[@SpanishandGo]

Hey Jonathan. I hear you. However, feeding Christians used to be an age old tradition. Slavery was an age old tradition. Believing the earth was flat and positioned at the center of the universe was an age old tradition. Cockfighting is an age old tradition. I thinking it’s perfectly ok to have a dialogue about what we’re ok with as a society - especially in a global, interconnected society. -Jim

[@JonathanMoosey]

Spanish and Go you’re comparing slavery to Spanish. I think that’s pretty low and disgusting as well as insulting to native Spanish speaking people

[@JonathanMoosey]

Spanish and Go maybe we should stop pushing our cultural imperialism on non-Caucasian people. That would be a good place to start.

[@SpanishandGo]

@@JonathanMoosey No, I'm talking about how traditions change over time. Don't twist my words. What used to be right and normal no longer is. Should we be mad at those who changed these traditions, or accept the changes are part of our evolution as a species? -Jim

[@SpanishandGo]

@@JonathanMoosey I'm not pushing anything. Having an opinion isn't pushing. May is Mexican. Do you feel like she's pushing her ideas on you too because she has an opinion as well? Why is it so difficult to have meaningful discussions these days? Perhaps we shouldn't take so much offense to different opinions. -Jim

[@onlythefamily7856]

I have a first middle name first last name and second last name

[@White_Tiger2169]

I never heard or met any latin women ever to do that except in telenovelas.

[@nestorrodriguez3627]

That confusing is calling surnames or family names as "Last Name" which isn't accurate.

[@kingkoba5618]

“Almost everyone has a middle name” my mom who does not have one when born in Mexico

[@ImGeds]

In the US women are expected to take the husbands last name. It’s the same thing.

[@SpanishandGo]

Yes, that has been the tradition, but I feel like that’s on the decline. At least for our generation. In our experience, We made a decision for May to not take my last name, and we know several other couples our age as well who are married and decided not to change their names. But idk, that might just be our experience and not the trend overall. Thanks for watching! -Jim

[@nathanielburns6692]

My sister’s full name is Hannah Elizabeth De La Rosa Burns De La Rosa

[@Dangic23]

In Puerto Rico the Woman never changes her name, even when married. From birth to death...same name. The way it should be.

[@rafaelantonio7128]

Mili Prin they don’t “lose” their last name, it’s a tradition to do it, and it’s not mandatory!! Some women opt not to do it, and just because they do things differently doesn’t mean they’re wrong, it’s just the way they do it and that’s it

[@Dangic23]

@@rafaelantonio7128 Its wrong. Very simple. A woman gives away her last name and entire family tree to adopt the husband's name. True....its not mandatory in the US....but the entire system in the US is built around the patriarchal model.....and when the woman decides to keep the name of her birth and heritage ....the system makes it basically impossible for her to function....unless she carries all her identity paperwork with her at all times.

[@rafaelantonio7128]

Dangic23 that’s not true, I live in the US and Ik how the system works, many women do not change their last names, this is normal

[@Dangic23]

@@rafaelantonio7128 I was born in NYC in 1974. I've seen hyphenated last names....which still has the husband's. I can count in one hand how many I have met that kept their last name. And I see a lot of names.....I work in Pharmacy.....see names of spouses all day long. National average has been about 6% of women keeping their real last name. But more women are now doing the right thing, and it is probably close to 20%, including the hyphenated ones.

[@rafaelantonio7128]

Dangic23 I’m in the Army and know plenty of females that kept their last names, no issues so far, I was only trying to say that is not mandatory but optional that’s all

[@apablop522]

bruh, she belongs to the Husband's Side of the Family is what its saying, it's the Father's Last name, so it's the Father Inlaws's Surname OLO

[@dane764]

And yes any Espanol

[@ralanon268]

Al menos en España y por lo visto en la mayoría de países menos México jajajaja nadie pierde ningún apellido al casarse

[@bilcarter]

Please, stop with the social justice lesson. There is NOTHING "backwards" about a woman "belonging" to her husband. It may be hard for you to conceptualize it, but there are still many men who feel a primal responsibility to care for and protect his wife and children with his life. A wife in most parts of the world feels honored to have a husband committed to her this way, as she should. Given to the fact that marriages in Latin American countries are statistically far more successful than marriages in your "enlightened" world, perhaps a little less pontificating would be in order. And yes, in many of these countries, the women do tend to stay at home and raise the children. While you see those husbands as benighted tyrants, they look at you and wonder why you make your wife abandon her children every day to go out and work for a different man. It is an honor for a man to be the one who financially provides for his family, and an honor for a woman to raise her own children to respect him for doing so. It isn't oppressive to want a wife to stay at home. It's oppressive to make her go out and work. So much for choice. In many countries, people would look at your own nuptial naming decisions and wonder (perhaps incorrectly, I'm sure) why you weren't committed to your wife and your marriage. While you are concerned about her potential "loss of identity" (a selfish arrogance only Western countries concern themselves with), they would see you as less of a man. Don't look at traditions that have lasted tens of thousands of years and feel you suddenly know better. Your woke echo chamber isn't as wise as you'd like to think it is.

[@SpanishandGo]

Sounds like someone got triggered. Look at this comment… and we’re the ones who were pontificating?

[@awit1979]

naming practices

[@nestorrodriguez3627]

In English the women lose all her family names and only takes on her husband's name and that's certainly degrading.

[@chanjj6345]

Juan

[@melvinmorales1452]

bull shit. in the united states, married women lose their last names.

[@scottwalker8924]

Orale! qué cara nueva bonita!

[@saulbuenhombre8862]

En Colombia la mujer cuando se casa no pierde sus apellidos

[@Countrygirl8019]

Some people are traditional. If you were traditional, you would probably take your husbands last name and your children with two. Some people are not traditional and they don’t. Thank goodness that we can choose nowadays because if this was maybe 100 years ago, or more 🤷🏾‍♀️no woman would have a choice.

[@petedetects7012]

It sounds like Marry wife of John Smith. Nothing more or less

[@christiandeschamps2106]

Esto es totalmente falso: en México, aunque la mujer se case, conserva su nombre completo, no anexa el del marido, la costumbre de agregar el nombre del marido se perdió hace décadas!!! En los Estados Unidos, actualmente, la mujer al casarse pierde su apellido y se pone el del marido.

[@SpanishandGo]

No para confundirte ni nada, pero May es Mexicana. Conocemos un montón de mujeres que todavía perdieron el apellido maternal al casar. No estamos aquí inventando información. 😆

[@creditrepairwizards]

This makes no sense , your father has 2 last names and your mother has to last names then their children have 4 last names? The grand children then have 8 ?

[@SpanishandGo]

In Spanish-speaking countries, people usually have two surnames, one from their father's side and one from their mother's side. This system is known as "apellido compuesto" or "double-barrelled surname". When a child is born, they will receive the first surname from their father and the second surname from their mother. For example, if the father's surname is "García" and the mother's surname is "Martínez", the child's full name would be "Juan García Martínez". It's worth noting that in some Spanish-speaking countries, the order of the surnames may be reversed, and the mother's surname comes first. For example, in Spain, the child's name would be "Juan Martínez García". This system ensures that both the father's and mother's family names are passed down through the generations. Additionally, it makes it easier to trace family lineages because each person's full name includes their parents' surnames. It's important to note that in some cases, individuals may choose to use only one of their surnames or to hyphenate them together. This is a matter of personal preference and does not change the legal recognition of their full name.

[@Countrygirl8019]

Property of her husband 😂

[@dane764]

🍕

[@Napoleon1323]

Think God I can have one last name.