How do you BEAT Ireland? Will Greenwood & Shane Horgan join us 🌹☘️

Will Greenwood & Shane Horgan join Alex Payne for an epic preview of England v Ireland. Our two esteemed guests talk through their memories of the fixture and look ahead to the latest instalment at Twickenham. How can England beat Ireland? The lads have brought their notebooks and dive deep for an answer.
0:00 - Show Intro
0:34 - Show starts
2:03 - The History
13:36 - 2006
20:06 - Roles reversed
27:46 - Will on England
39:51 - Are England spinning?
49:21 - Consistency
53:20 - How long will this take?
1:10:50 - Ireland performing or others failing?
1:13:40 - Continental Tyres question of the week
1:19:31 - Wales to beat France?
1:23:48 - hey car Six Nations Select
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[@MattConnolly-wi8oh]

More of these two together. Great engaging insightful chat.

[@morganthedruid1]

Listening to Greenwood, Horgan and Payne is so satisfying. This is the podcast I want to watch, it is warm and intelligent with no abrassiveness or any need to show off.

[@michaelstack125]

@@morganthedruid1this! No one desperate to get a dig in or fishing for the next tick tock bit. Just intelligent rugby men sitting down, reminiscing and chewing the fat. More of this content please.

[@MattConnolly-wi8oh]

@@morganthedruid1 100% agree

[@WalsallGooner]

Absolute Articulation from these guys 👍

[@aslantang1]

Loving it 🫡

[@morganthedruid1]

If GBR genuinely want to be the premier rugby podcast you'd snap these two up as Alex Payne's co hosts. The feel of this show was such a step up

[@TheMarmara2023]

Haskell just wanks himself off

[@9Charcot]

Agree....get rid of that egotistical pratt and the other drunk....

[@alanfit77]

Will Greenwood is like the guy in school who was popular and friendly with the teachers, the Jocks, the tough kids and the nerds :) Always comes across as a very genuine guy.

[@lifes-entertainment2484]

Shout out to Evens House, if you know you know

[@Fred-zw5co]

This is the best GBR episode ever

[@TheMarmara2023]

The world has spoken. Haskell and tindall must retire

[@rook_wood]

These two are twice as good as Tindall and Haskell. Keep them

[@TheMarmara2023]

This show shouldn’t exist unless Horgan and greenwood stay

[@chapaz8992]

Yeah .. I agree Tindals a bit boring and Hask will always have shelf life !

[@Musicandguitars2745]

@@TheMarmara2023it’s literally Haskell and tindalls show

[@fonz114]

Greenwood and Horgan Englishman and Irishman. They are fantastic to listen to. Fantastic rugby combo. 🏉

[@Dickie2702]

Great show, get them both back anytime.

[@garrettlombard1941]

Amhráin na bhfíian. God save the Queen. It's 43 - 13. Croke Park. 2007. 💚

[@stabcitySB]

The 1973 match was huge, during the horrific Troubles, Wales & Scotland decline to travel, England come to Lansdowne Road despite all the terrorist threats and run out to a standing ovation from the crowd. Incredible historic moment.

[@tjobrien8436]

England, Irelands greatest rugby friend and ally. Showed up in 1973, and was the only one of the home nations to vote for us in our world cup bud for 2023. Shouldn't be forgotten. Really looking forward to the weekends game. 🇮🇪

[@jackoshea7668]

Hear hear 🇮🇪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@laurencegoodacre8428]

​@tjobrien8436 I always think this is what makes Rugby great! Ireland have been building something special for a while and have been playing superb rugby off the back of it which has been supremely exciting to watch. We (England) may have won on Saturday, but it was a tight match and save for the bounce of the ball, or a different decision being made, Ireland could have won the game. Can't wait to see how you do in South Africa, the two best teams in the world facing off for a test match series is a tasty prospect indeed! I can only see great things happening for such an awesome team with such great fans! See you at Lansdown next year! 🍀🌹

[@philiplewis2262]

This is the best discussion on national rugby ever. Well done chaps. Keep these two on the programme!

[@retlwiz]

Will Greenwood always has insightful things to say and with his copious notes he is clearly conscientious about being prepared. As his father was a coach, maybe he gets it from him.

[@robertgordon5150]

Absolutely loved this one. Good mix of proper informed rugby talk and a bit of banter. Hate to say it, but these two took the pod on another level. Nice having a non Englishman as well for balance. As for the weekend, if England pull it out the bag I’ll be a happy fan. Unfortunately it’s very difficult to see past a convincing Ireland win. I’ll take a good England performance at the moment to be fair 😂.

[@ZO150ZO]

wow Alex interesting chat without the interruption of Haskell + Tindall 😊

[@lizzyhanahoe4197]

Totally agree!

[@DM-rp9ik]

They are really holding this thing back

[@Musicandguitars2745]

@@DM-rp9ikhardly holding it back, they’ve got it to the success it has now

[@andrewbadger4797]

What a fantastic show. Two clever but humble pundits, eleganty directed by Payne. Just brilliant.

[@gavindoyle692]

This chat was a level above what is normally offered by GBR. More intelligent and nuanced debate such as that offered by Messrs Greenwood and Horgan. No unnecessary interruptions and searching for the sound bite. Bravo! 👏🏼

[@TheMarmara2023]

They need to see this and change it

[@TheAtticradio]

Great chat!! More of this please. Great insight. Lots of respects for all nationalities shown here. As it should be. Love it !

[@Badlighter]

With respect to James and Mike, but Shane and Will provide the right mix of rugby erudition and badinage.

[@user-ci3pd5pg3h]

These 2 guys really know their rugby. I bumped into Will at the cinema in maidenhead and he was a real gentleman. A class person.

[@tomred5262]

A worthy listen, 3 intelligent no bs pro's

[@droneangel4628]

Shane I’ll never forget your try against England in around 2006/7 where ya just bent down and placed the try in twicknham ☘️☘️☘️

[@SMacCuUladh]

2006

[@offal]

these 2 are brilliant, just what i want to hear constuctive analysis. I like the virgin punditry and Shane features on there a lot.

[@Big-Si2253]

As much as I like Mike Tindall's contributions (when he is there), this has been a great episode. Insightful and enjoyable. 👍

[@garrettlombard1941]

Great to hear Shaggy's insights. Learned.

[@patrickbrogan3886]

"I didn't mock the Jock, I coughed." Pure poetry

[@BigTsutts]

Greens really is the encyclopaedia of rugby! Love him on here needs to be a regular

[@skillsofWow]

loving this - Will and Shane are talking about the skills of space, time, and timing. If players lack these skills they can't play what is in front of them. But, overtraining the technical, speed, and strength skills lowers space, time, and timing skills. Skills mastery needs both sets of skills. They need to be coached separately.

[@kevindevane6175]

People in GB don't realise how special the Croke park game was to Irish people, it showed how mature a nation we had become to welcome the old enemy onto sacred ground for us as a nation. What a game!

[@Acknetan]

Well said it was massive you could hear a pin drop before the English anthem what a day, and the bull hayes crying

[@EnglishVeteran]

People do not understand that Britain is a Union. It has only existed since 1707 when they occupied England & Scotland. England has been an Independent Nation for over a Thousand Years. Under British Rule. We are not even allowed to sing our own National Anthem before matches! Unlike England Cricket Team!

[@PaddleWithPaddy]

Lads clutching at straws shiting on about the Irish lineout. Ireland by 25.

[@clemfandango619]

​@@PaddleWithPaddya record win for paddy, then? Gobsheen.

[@PaddleWithPaddy]

@@clemfandango619 clown

[@philwebbphotography3630]

Greenwood talks so much sense, hope others are listening. Why the hell do England Rugby ignore so much talent. Not one of the 2003 world cup winners are in the inner circle.

[@paulvesey6250]

Less bird brain Haskell, much much more of these two please!

[@geoffnelson6756]

I was devastated when Ireland got knocked out of the WC, can't imagine how the players felt, but I saw Mack Hansen in his no nonsense Aussie slang say ' we are just going to go out and win the 6 nations' thought that was fantastic but then realised we had no experienced 10 and panicked a bit. Can't wait for Hansen to come back into the team, should be 5here for the July tour to SA.

[@markchristopher2373]

Superb chat! Thanks guys.

[@philipmcdonald7370]

Shaggy"s 40 mins against Lomu Landsdowne Rd is one of my fave defensive performances of all time. Sadly, he was injured for the 2nd half and NZ took control. It was a case of 'what if' for many years, as the Irish team and crowd did feed off the battle between Lomu and Shaggy

[@johnthomson7717]

A great episode guys - well done!!!

[@horfieldboy9478]

Will Greenwood talked a huge amount of sense. The big problem with building your plan around data from last weeks match is the opposition have the same data and know exactly how you are going to play in advance, insanity. This makes it very easy for the opposition. Get the team to play what is in front of them and ask questions of the opposition.

[@jbfanclub1]

Best episode ever

[@nicholaskeenan211]

I hate to say this but Greenwood and Horgan are so much better than the whole English panel of Tindall and Haskell are - they offer better insight and a balance to the show. 🫣

[@michelemijat8260]

Greenwood is English you fool

[@lawLess-fs1qx]

loved the historical summary. looking forward to Itoje vs Joe McCarthy,

[@eazyollie9370]

It'll be more George Martin who will monster McCarthy.

[@marcdaniels9079]

@@eazyollie9370 English fan here: that sounds like somewhat wishful thinking. 😅

[@ianburton9030]

Why do so many people talk up George Martin as a 'monster'? He's 6' 6" and 118 kg. Bog normal for a lock, in fact a little on the short side.

[@michaelflynn5123]

Don’t think mc carthy will start ! He would give away to many penalties

[@eazyollie9370]

@@ianburton9030 Size is all well and good it's what you do with it. Martin is super abrasive, you will see him manhandle the naturally larger locks over the next few years 100%. He goes out on seek and destroy missions.

[@timber4420]

Completely agree with majority of comments. Take note, it’s time to freshen up the experts! Content, humour but essentially the rugby knowledge was at a different level.

[@1HappyBob]

Shane was brilliant against Lomu. From memory, Shane went off and the game changed.

[@andrewcavenagh9016]

The best one man-marking of Lomu I ever saw....

[@1HappyBob]

@@andrewcavenagh9016 100% - he was superb

[@LFire12]

That's exactly right. That one injury to Horgan completely changed the momentum of that game. Only player I ever saw who kept the great Lomu quiet.

[@user-we3wf8pw5t]

One of the best episodes yet. Proper rugby knowledge. No Tinds or Hask = refreshing

[@gileshorton8282]

Let’s have these guys on together again soon. Both are such gentlemen and sheer class.

[@Ruah236]

40 Year Old FUQ Boys (Maybe 40 something Year Old) The Boys are back in Town with great fun and great points. Two naturals in rugby and entertainment. Like the way Will Greenwood is calling his dad 'My Old Man' these 2 real gentlemen to be proud of was great idea to get them both on for weekend coming up.

[@phoenixfridge1495]

two gentlemen talking sense . No Likes or You knows. A pleasure to listen to. More of these two please

[@yumorules]

Shane Horgan is superb. Really knows his stuff.More please!

[@mattmills419]

Brilliant!

[@dotcorrigan5394]

Just love hearing the stories ❤❤❤

[@ciarancoates3210]

Best video so far. A level above normal

[@9Charcot]

Absolutely love Shane Horgan.....a class act

[@johngarveyire]

What a chat - great stuff..

[@El_Gato1066]

Lomu and Robinson…”career ending humiliators!!”…🤣😂

[@XtheMystic244]

Twickenham is the Goodison Park of Rugby. The home crowd can be ferocious to visitors but it can turn against their own team if England aren't performing well.

[@Lectrosoul]

Great discussion, love it! Big up Shane "shaggy" Horgan!!

[@joelhickman9158]

Love the episodes with Horgan! 🙌

[@njmayhew]

As an Englishman always have a soft spot for Will Greenwood, especially because he was so gracious in letting my Wife take a picture with him in a busy pub in Putney back in the day :) Shane Horgan - who I loathed as a fan because he seemed to play so well against us - is absolute class. Really insightful analysis when on tv - it's a shame we don't see / hear more from him in UK? - and unsurprisingly a joy to listen to here on GBR. Definitely one of the Irishmen I'd like to have a beer with one day.

[@ranbirgill4718]

Will Greenwood has great insight especially about the forwards

[@user-uw3ft1zv7s]

Top class guests make so much sense!!.more please

[@cateym]

I really enjoyed this.

[@arub4208]

Utterly brilliant

[@tommydaniel3206]

really enjoyed this thank you

[@user-ih9pf6dm9g]

That was great entertainment!

[@thomasmyers2288]

FINALLY! Someone stating the actually issue with this England and pre-Eddie England for that matter! Well Done Will!

[@bernieob9577]

You need to keep this going before every game, really enjoyable.

[@johndevoy5792]

from an Irish-Cork based fan, whatever about that great Meath man, Horgan, get Will G on again. Great to listen-to him and he knows his rugby stuff!

[@pheasantplucker6117]

Yes. Great to hear them reminisce. Was the same with Craig Chalmers and Gary Armstrong a few week ago.

[@jamesharrington809]

Great episode, very engaging. If I ever meet Hoggy, I'll buy him a pint for those tries 🇮🇪

[@clivepalmer3545]

Rugby IQ is top. These conversations need to happen. It’s not about quick conclusions it’s about how are England selecting and on what basis. Rip this up. Rugby is a collision speed skills sport. Find ways to improve in these areas step one. Build on that… cherish it and discard those that cannot challenge the best physically / speed wise

[@joeboonmusic4004]

I agree with Horgan when he mentioned our best rugby being played in the WC with Farrell at 12 and Ford at 10. Obviously we can't and shouldn't go back to that... but having a centre partnership doesn't HAVE to revolve around a big basher at 12 and a lighter footballer at 13. The future, in my opinion, is Ojomoh at 12 and Lawrence/Joseph at 13. Ojomoh is powerful, fast and has AMAZING hands, Lawrence gives us the power and ability in the outside channels that he displays for Bath week on week... put Feyi-Waboso on one wing and Freeman on the other. Then we have the pace and defensive nous to put someone like Steward at the back.

[@guypenrose5477]

This is the best one yet.

[@pmc5111]

Excellent show. Really interesting and insightful

[@ranbirgill4718]

Great two guys

[@aidanomorgadh1]

I have not watched this podcast for a while, preferring the Aussie boys (the former GBRA, what happened there?) for the banter. The two Shaggy's though are a great team with the posh lad, definitely get my vote for more of this.

[@conormadigan7829]

Great pod cast lads.

[@GoodBadRugby]

0:00 - Show Intro 0:34 - Show starts 2:03 - The History 13:36 - 2006 20:06 - Roles reversed 27:46 - Will on England 39:51 - Are England spinning? 49:21 - Consistency 53:20 - How long will this take? 1:10:50 - Ireland performing or others failing? 1:13:40 - Continental Tyres question of the week 1:19:31 - Wales to beat France? 1:23:48 - hey car Six Nations Select

[@garethadams9610]

England could do it Saturday, if they move the ball around. I hope Ireland win. I’m Welsh and I enjoy watching England lose, though it’s rather nice here in leafy Surrey.

[@chriswright5050]

Much better with these two

[@TheMarmara2023]

Keep this format. Never ever return to the old format

[@eugenefarrell1002]

Irish fan here..Great show lads keep them coming.

[@eoliver437]

Great conversation. Although Greenwood seems to entirely forgot how easy England's WCup draw was. So appearing in a semi-f was not very meaningful

[@johnnyk6460]

Great chat between all 3. Don't agree at all though with Shane Horgans take 27 minutes in on Johnny Sextons post-retirement statement "we lost but we won". It was a completely ludicrous and bullsh*t assertion by Sexton. Another "world cup faliure" would have been more truthful line to have come out with.

[@RobertDixonTaylor]

Ah.. hindsight.. what a wonderful thing! Just watched this show.. the six nations done a well and truly dusted! excellent stuff from the guys though.

[@TheMagicalFlea]

Usually not the biggest greenwood fan but thought himself and shaggy were very insightful here.

[@01Binzer]

More of an adult chat & both chill dudes. But love the other dynamic 😂👍☘️🍺

[@johnhanson5943]

Could watch this one. Not always the case. Keep these two.

[@otuamab]

Great show with all the old stories - Love it!

[@tomjoyce6365]

Glad they mentioned Lewsey Rogers.

[@julianmcwey866]

I'm irish !!! Greenwood is an impressive speaker perhaps get him into the english set up !!!

[@MrSham61]

Insightful insight into Rugby from a Newbie

[@Kenny-zn6dl]

This could be peter o mahony 's last six nations in Twickenham and as captain I just cannot see the irish lineout malfunctioning and that's where this game will be won or lost , Ireland played well against France and were okay against Italy and Wales, they need to up their performance on Saturday, I think Farrell has a fully fit squad to pick from which is encouraging 👍

[@duncangravy6060]

Johnny May summed up Englands issues last week.

[@davidmartin5935]

Horgan spot on about England not knowing who to pick week to week. "This week, we will be mostly be picking our exciting new winger!" 🙏

[@Dickie2702]

The England crowd are a hair trigger because they are not cut from the same cloth as we were 20+ years ago. Sorry to those going tomorrow but I am disabled now and on the very odd occassion I go to Twickenham it's not the place and the people it was when I attended every game from 1985 to 2007.

[@ProTantoQuid]

"Fire & Brimstone" for England players under EJ meant red cards. Aggression needs to be managed by the players or it will be managed by the ref.

[@Patch801]

England will get cards again a couple of yellows or a red. They just have to make too many tackles against Ireland and lose focus under fatigue.

[@patrickbrennan911]

24:40 Except….Ireland didn’t look that comfortable in the last 6 nations game against England. A lot of nervous energy, a lot of heavy breathing early on. Score line flattered them and I dare say it was a premonition of what was to come in the crunch QF of the WC. We were late of the the gates and paid for it in the end. We need to get out of the gates early and lay down a marker early on Saturday.

[@chapaz8992]

Got that totally wrong lads .. and your pro punters! 😂

[@PaddyIrishman]

Strange times when England now chase Ireland. How the tables have turned from my childhood years.

[@GoodBadRugby]

What will the score be at Twickenham this weekend? 🤔

[@davidwalker2402]

36-17 Ireland

[@gavindoyle692]

☘️ Ireland 31-20 England 🌹

[@user-kx9qs2zf2c]

My god, did you just reference the greatest cad in Victorian times,,, Mr Mcdonald frasier would be a proud man.

[@kirtap2601]

Very interesting. Thanks.

[@JohnHirsch88]

Shaggy probably has the greatest widows peak in all of rugby

[@lorcanjackson-mclaughlin8165]

This show is so much better without Tindall and Haskell. Loved the insights and story-telling ability from both Greenwood and Horgan.

[@user-xj5ks9yj8n]

You send them to Ellis Park in July.