'HOW DOES SHE DO IT!?!' Couple reacts to Nightwish - The Poet and the Pendulum

[@silverblack5475]

We all have cried many times to this Masterpiece

[@WardDorrity]

Note how Marco sings while running that incredible bass line. He does it like it's nothing.

[@kevinmorehart1222]

There is only one Floor.........a gift to all our listening ears.

[@jpdemer5]

Floor and Marko going all out, and doing it in flawless harmony. I haven't heard anything remotely as good as that duo.

[@zephirblue72]

I always play this song to reset my feeling, and there's always smoke in my eyes,..

[@johnlindquist1784]

How does she do it? She's the Valkyrie Goddess Floor Jansen, that's how. Just Floor doing Floor things.

[@davidmazzell2332]

Yeah, I have a Floor bias, incredible vocalist and a stage presence that's second to none

[@renejensen7799]

Surely masterpiece, one that made me think many times, i would proberly say the NW song that made me think the most, and ive heard it all many times..

[@Thorgrim247]

After Tarja was dismissed from the band Tuomas was blamed and criticized by the fans and media. This was his response to how he felt. A powerful masterpiece. The first time I heard this it took me several days to recover emotionally. The story is very important for the history of Nightwish. Tuomas pours his soul into his music.

[@nicod1361]

finally one of the few who gets gets it right,well said

[@tsiouparoglou4493]

Yep, everybody has the same question.. Personally, I think the one million question is "where does she comes from actually" because this magical once in a lifetime creature cannot be from this planet.

[@parambirsingh1321]

At the end (after being comforted by his parents), his heart started beating again 🙏 You can hear it in this clip...

[@tarmotyyri6733]

Thanks for sharing your reaction to this masterpiece of a song.

[@alexandrabarrenbrugge4585]

Excellent reaction and analysis. A poetic suicide. Yes, NIGHTWISH is TUOMAS HOLOPAINEN and Tuomas Holopainen is NIGHTWISH. Btw. EMPPU talking to Tuomas on stage: it's not a small chat, he asks him if he is alright. It's not only sweat running down his face. Greetings from Germany and Parkinson's sucks but EMPPU RULES! 🤗 alex

[@chadbennett7873]

Emppu is the best! He keeps tabs on all of them during the concert and I consider him the glue of the band.

[@tapio7133]

Well, we really don´t know what Emppu is saying there to Tuomas, that is just a bit drama added in discussions.

[@sverremikkelden2944]

Nightwish is NOT only Tuomas. I dont care if you have parkinsons or whatever. In this song Kai is killin it and so does Empu. Floor is floor so thats cool. Marko is next level

[@sverremikkelden2944]

You should modify your first coment!

[@alexandrabarrenbrugge4585]

@@sverremikkelden2944 Au Mann 😧! NIGHTWISH is the creation of Tuomas. He foundet the band and he is the creative Mastermind of the band. In terms of songwriting, compositions and conception of an album or shows he is the 😨" Alpha and Omega". Yes, Marco ( not a foundingmember of the band) has had a big influence but he is gone. After watching the interview with him and Tarja, we can not even assume, what happened behind the scenes, causing this split. I miss the "Troll beneath the Bridge ". 😑 The Tarja Issue. It was a Drama for the band, the business behind the band ( crying shoulder ), the fans ( until today!), even Fin. Prm. Mnster. mentioned the topic...Watch footage of the song prior FLOOR 🌷💖 and Wembley or don't 😒. Emotional stability is something different. Kai kills it? Of course, but " Devil and the deep dark Ocean "?!!! And EMPPU always RULES! IMO EMPPU is one of the most underrated musicians ever! High Hopes 😃🙏🤘! He is the secret conductor on stage; good example " Song of Myself " Wacken. But he is not a poser, but an adult man and member of a/the band. He knows, he is a GOAT, but he is EMPPU 😄. To end this sh... short. I turn 50 💀 this year and i follow NIGHTWISH for a long time and could write an Essay about the band, just like the others, but IT isn't worth it. In the end: TUOMAS is the "Boss" of NIGHTWISH, the bandleader! I really don't care, if you don't care about Parkinson's or anything else. But please, try to reenlight your inner Lantern. Greetings from Germany and Parkinson's sucks but EMPPU RULES 🤗 alex

[@shaunjp2211]

I loved the goddes angel that's Tarja! The warrior Floor is brilliant also here, Nightwish back to their best .

[@Mars-is4un]

🤗🍒🤘🏻😘 well done again as always

[@damienmaynard8892]

It it is possible to have just one favourite Nightwish song, this is it! Something for everyone musically and lyrically. The boy soprano at the start was Guy Elliott from St Mary's Choir School, Reigate, UK. The part "Sparkle my scenery...." was sung by another boy soprano on the album but Floor said that she could do it live and Tuomas agreed! Floor's empathy in this shines out in every part in every way.. Marko sang most if not all of the demo for this song - darker, angrier, more 4 letter words! edit: Steph - want to hear an album with just one continuous story? Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime or WASP - The Crimson Idol - both are emotional roller-coasters and you should have tissues handy!

[@dragonseye00]

In the beginning of the song you hear the boy saying "The End" and at the end of the song he says "The Beginning" In a sense Tuomas used this song to channel his emotions due to the backlash of letting Tarja go as lead singer. In a way, he commited su*c*de in this song to not do it in real life and get those emotions out. And in a sense, the song is played starting at the end, and after this "virtual" sui*** it was a new beginning in a sense. You see Marko and Empuu checking in with Tuomas several times, especially at the end, because it is still a bit of an emotional topic for him. I think he is quite a bit of an introvert, and feelings hit introverts quite a bit more, because it is difficult to let them out.

[@rnowak85]

Nice reaction! This is Tuomas's (keyboardist ands main composer) most personal and emotional song. It is also very personal and emotional for most fans. In 2005 the band had reached a breaking point with their first lead singer, Tarja. Things between her, her husband/manager and the band had been deteriorating for some time and had reached the point where they could no longer work together. The band decided to fire her, which they did via an open letter, right after the End of an Era concert. Tarja responded with her own open letter explaining her side of things. The backlash against the band, but mostly against Tuomas, was massive and very nasty. Tuomas felt betrayed by Nightwish's fans and sank into a deep depression. He wrote this song as way of expressing and exploring all of the emotions of his depression and grief. Tuomas often uses the poet in his lyrics to reference himself and yes, he does have a great affinity for the ocean. He sees it as a place of refugee. I highly recommend you read the analysis of this song by the artist Annike Hausen. IMO it is a brilliant, master's level analysis and I think you would really enjoy it. I would provide a link but every time I do the YT algorithms delete my comment. Just google her name and Poet and the Pendulum. A few thoughts on the lyrics. "One last perfect verse but still the same old song." For me this is Tuomas saying I have nothing new to write for my so called fans, which is like death for a poet like him. The line " A thousand pages of erased text" represents all the songs that Tuomas would have wrote for Tarja but now would never be heard. The blade falls (Tuomas making the slashing motion across his neck). The heart beat slows and finally stops mid beat. The original version of Nightwish is dead. The last part of the song, Mother and Father, gets me every time. The lyrics are actual words spoken by his parents during the depths of his depression. Floor perfectly channeling the anguish of a mother who has lost her child. Then the words, In the Beginning, signaling the birth of a new version of Nightwish. For me this is Nightwish's greatest song. Their Magnum Opus. Tuomas pouring out his heart and anguish in the music and lyrics. Floor perfectly channeling the anger and pain. It fills me with emotion and lets me connect to Tuomas in a profound way. This song is no longer performed live. Tuomas has said they (him, Empuu, and at the time Marko) are not those people anymore and they have moved on. Performing it just takes Tuomas back to that difficult place emotionally. Emppu and Marko come over and check in on Tuomas through out the song to make sure he is ok emotionally. Tuomas often would have the sound engineers turn off the vocal feed in his in ears because it would make him too emotional. I am so grateful that he chose to write this song and share this part of himself with us. Everything about this song and performance is about making us feel his emotions. Many of us Nightwish fans recommend that reactors wait until they now the history of the band better before reacting to this song and also doing some research into the backstory before listening because in our experience, knowing the backstory make the emotional impact of the song even greater. Please do a deeper dive into the backstory. Read the open letters. Read Annika's analysis and listen once again and then please come back and share how knowing the backstory changed or didn't change how you experienced the song. One of the things I love about Nightwish is their ability to evoke emotions in me and their fans and I am very interested to hear what emotions you felt after taking a deeper dive into the song

[@shaunjp2211]

Quite but these letters were unnecessary they were all best friends to this point and founder members of Nightwish. Tarja had from what I understood had spoken to everyone telling them she wanted to go, after the new album and concert tours in 2 years time but instead of talking they fired her via a letter. Time is a great healer maybe they can forgive each other..

[@rnowak85]

@@shaunjp2211 By the time they fired Tarja they were no longer close friends and their was a lot of animosity. Tuomas has said he wished they had handled it differently but they were young and my guess is they were trying to protect themselves from Tarja's husband Marcelo who they blamed for them growing apart. Listen to Master Passion Greed to see how they fetl about him. They knew how popular Tarja was with fans and they knew Marcelo would spin things to make them look bad so I am sure they felt the need to get their side of the story out to the public. Given what happened their concerns were not unfounded. Marko and Tarja have talked and made up to the point they are touring together. Tarja did contact Tuomas to offer her condolences for the passing of his father back 2021 which was well received but I don't see things getting to the point where they could work together again.

[@davidellinsworth3299]

Note the "3 minutes and counting" line..... 3 minutes to the second from that point in the song Tuomas slashes his throat.

[@DesertEagleDutch]

Tuomas is a genius. One of the greatest composers and lyricists of all time. For me in Floor he truly found his voice. She has the same talent.. dedication and passion 🙌

[@Columbasta]

FYI: the thumbnail (and also the description) says Wacken 2013, but this one is at Wembley Arena, 2015. You can still add that info tt title of your video if you like and edit the info in your description. Cheers!

[@Ciel-e3v]

And they play the song in the intro hahah 1 st reaction ...not

[@cbyrne7609]

I actually clicked on this video to check, lol. I've seen the Wacken performance from start to finish a dozen times if I've seen it once, and I was like, wait a minute... they didn't do Poet at Wacken... lol.

[@AntaryDraconis]

💔 Break off song; but still loving it (Tarja, first singer is gone and everyone was angry with the band for "fire" /let her go)❤‍🔥

[@Magga-f3z]

Tuomas Holopainen ( Keys) songwriter,composer. Nightwish band from Finland. Next Lanternlight official music video 2024.

[@LimbaZero]

Was it on some interview Tuomas said that this song was his escape from suicidal thoughts. Basically this song saved his life. It wasn't easy time for him after they fired Tarja and he basically got all angry and hate from fans.

[@nicod1361]

sorry but so wrong , he NEVER ever said that,in fact in more than one Louder interview he said the opposite

[@AndyMagnusson70]

It is a boy in the beginning

[@chadbennett7873]

A boy soprano - Guy Elliott is the lead voice at the beginning. He is joined by Tom Williams of the Reigate St. Mary's Choir School.

[@robertsheeler321]

The Poet and the Pendulum is the song about there 1st singer Tarja Turnunen getting fired in 2005 , HERE IS MY INTERPRETATION OF THIS - The Poet and the Pendulum was written after firing Tarja the original singer. She was the face of Nightwish at the time, and Tuomas (Keyboards) wrote this and considered her a muse to many of the songs he had written at that point. They had also grown up in the same city and knew each other since early childhood. All the band members decided together to fire her for acting too much of a diva And her husband & Manager was stepping way outta bounds concerning the band business He always wanted more money , only big paying show but the band did it for the love of music and there fans . According to all the band members, Tarja was missing lots of rehearsals and would not even travel with the band anymore. Tuomas was painted as the devil by many fans, and went through a deep depression. He even considered ending the band . He wrote The Poet and the Pendulum at that time, and actually kills himself in the song. He said he killed himself in the song at the 10:00 time stamp , as to kill the pain he was going through . To this day every time he plays it, it takes him back to those feelings, and shows on his face. In the last part, Mother and Father, words are said to him that his real mother said to him at that time of his deep depression. One part that touches me at the end when the guitarist Emppu and bassist Marko, the only other two involved with firing Tarja (that were still active with the band at the time of this show )were standing with Tuomas at the end in solidarity and love., NOTE : the 1st two words are (The End) and the last two words are (The Beginning) representing the end of the 1st era of Nightwish and the beginning of the next era

[@nicod1361]

WRONG the song is NOT about Tarja "getting fired" !!! Its about how Tuomas dealt with the harsh fan & media backlash hate & blame

[@coachmikesfilmroom3111]

I'll suggest listening to Tarja's Enough and Diva as they were basically responding to this song and the diss tracks about her and her family

[@frenkwd1]

Hello The song "The Poet and the Pendulum" is a 13 Minute journey through the mind and turmoil of Tuomas Holopainen after the year 2005. It was in that year the band parted with their long-time singer Tarja Turunen and had a personal falling out with her. The pain of the separation was big on both sides, and shown in this song. There is the responsibility that the band and Holopainen had to show towards the fans,. It was the End of an Era for them, and reason for Holopainen being lost as described in these lyrics. We can only of course to a certain degree suppose how much of these are truly Holopainen's feelings, wishes and pains - but we do know that the lyrics of Nightwish have been up to then very personal. Other songs on the album also digest this separation and falling out of the members with Turunen. This is one of the interpretations and i know lots of fans do not agree, they just need to read the open letter that was given to Tarja by the whole band at her last concert with Nightwish, where they fired her. And the main reason that Tuomas went through a depression was that specially the Tarja fans where furious and showed that in the media and everyone was blaming Tuomas. (the fans spit on his grave). He felt the whole world was against him. However personal and "real" these thoughts are, I feel like this song definitely takes us not only on a journey with Holopainen but also into ourselves. The music underlines the emotional gravity of the song extremely well. And I believe a lot of people can actually relate to a sense of guilt and being overwhelmed that all they desired for is the safety of home and innocence. While being personal, the song can still ring true to it's listener. That's a quality Nighwish possesses in many, many more songs. The emotional journey is one we can all share and very few bands know how to put that journey into song and especially into sound as well as Nightwish does. The band remains through all it's shores and Oceans, one of my main favourites and I hold special place for the band in my musical heart. I hope you have enjoyed reading my analysis and share some of my thoughts. If you do have any comments, please feel free to let me know. And remember the beauty of interpretation is that it is subjective; we can see all and feel different things in the same song and continue to love it endlessly. Lyric analysis by Annika Hausen Greetings from the Netherlands

[@nicod1361]

why so many people choose their own interpretations instead of just listening and reading what Tuomas has said, that the song is NOT about Tarja getting fired/leaving the band nor is it about how the band felt about that ( as they all wanted it)nor is it about any suicide thoughts as their where none, it is ONLY about how Tuomas dealt with & felt about the media & fan backlash,blame & hate/

[@Magyarkhan]

Floorever da BEst!

[@williamadkins2170]

The intro vocalist is a young boy named Guy Elliott.

[@madpolitico]

Funny thing is, he’s one of the few people I’ve seen who recognized that it was a young boy and didn’t think it was Floor. So many people just assume it must be her.

[@karihaapanen7520]

Nice

[@fizzyridertoo]

Don't worry, it gets us all like that. Just a heads up that you may well get a copyright strike on this as you didn't pause. This is one of the very few Nightwish songs this can happen on.

[@stpfs9281]

I can't see the screen clearly, is someone preparing onions? Vehicle of Spirit: Wembley 2015, the rest of this concert is incredible too, a different *GLS* ending note, "Yours is an empty hope" and "The Greatest Show on Earth" (not the band, but Earth, life, man and music). I just looked at the lyrics, ooh, check the beginning, in the mirror! A bit like the five stages of grief... Floor sings the boy sopranos part (that moved you). You can see the way the early members of the band move over to support Tuomas, who is stuck on the keyboards. "The beginning". Then the Siren voice trailing off, and a soft "Thank you" from Floor. New album is almost a concept one, to get the best out of it, go from the start to the finish.

[@eTraxx]

"It sounds like a little boy" ... ummm ... yeah .. because .. According to Wikipedia, the first voice is Guy Elliott and the second voice is Tom Williams. The boy at least I think was part of the Ecclesiastical boys' choir that regularly performs in St Paul's Cathedral in London

[@user-Rockmagix]

This is a 5-part journey through the emotional turmoil following Tarja's departure. As the founder and guiding light of the band, Tuomas' took much of the flak from those who claimed to be Nightwish fans but we're actually obsessed with Tarja and thought she WAS Nightwish - an idea that the subsequent growth and improvement of the band comprehensively demolished. Indeed there are still people today who call the "Tarjawish" in some vain attempt to make Tarja something she wasn't. (Don't get me wrong, Tarja can be fantastic, but Nightwish is about Tuomas' and his compositions. We are fortunate he now has Floor to exhibit his works.) The parts are: 1. White Lands of Empathica (The End) - the end of a band as well know it. Later to become known as the "End of an Era" 2. Home - the breakup of the band and the wish to find a place, home, to go to and get away from the madness of those who hated. Of course, there is a lot more in here too. 3. The Pacific - as usual, Tuomas' needs to reference the oceans, one of his "grounding" themes. His love of the ocean metaphor is well-docunented. He did, of course, originally dream of becoming a marine biologist. Strange that he should have a gnat named after him! 4. Dark Passion Play - the hate of Tarja fans led him into deep depression. However the band were not in good places so he didn't feel he could "cry on their shoulders" so in the end he went back to see his 5. - Mother and Father (and The Beginning) - the lyrics here reflect what his mother said to him at that time. The beginning of a new era and new line-up BTW, they are not hanging out having a chat as such - see later. Tuomas refers to the ocean frequently - the second album is called Oceanborn, Dead Boys Poem ends with reference to ocean soul and Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean ends with lyrics about setting the dolphins free and "we shall wash the darkened blood red sea, our voices shall echo over the mountains and seas". Tuomas is a very special person and this is, for me, the pinnacle of his work. Nothing surpasses it. For him it is one of the deepest songs. Quotes from the band on the making of the album and the song... TUOMAS: We will never play "Bye Bye Beautiful" or "Master Passion Greed" live again, [sic] because the lyrics are just too unambiguous and personal. There was at least as much gloom behind "The Poet and the Pendulum", too, but it leaves a bit more room for interpretation. It's easily one of our best songs but especially, the "Mother and Father'" part in the end always stirs up such a storm of emotions that it's impossible for me to do it every night. Playing "The Poet and the Pendulum' is a real rollercoaster ride - it makes me feel anxious, blush, laugh, and, in the end, just happy that that part of my life is behind me. My notes: My number 1 Nightwish song and for good reasons. (No 2, Song of Myself, No 3 7 Days to the Wolves.) This is a deeply emotional and meaningful song with which I empathise and it helped me to see that there was a way forward when depression struck. I am not alone in being "saved" by Nightwish, a fact that Tuomas has referred to and said he could not terminate the band because he knows they have meant so much to some fans who feel their lives have been saved by Nightwish. He feels that he has a responsibility to the fans - not your standard rock musician then. Floor is worth watching closely, her facial, hand and whole-body motions reflect the emotions she is portraying. Hands in Mother and Father for example. Tearing her hair in the Dark Passion Play section. Note that when Tuomas talks about "Poet" he is always referencing himself. It happens throughout his ouvre. You will see other cross-references too. Tuomas does that deliberately to give the fans a sort of anchor. Meadows of Heaven is another example - a song in itself and often referenced. For what it's worth, here are are my thoughts and interpretations... End to beginning - death of one era of the band, beginning of a new era. Regarding the end of the first Era, I see no point in the blame game. The band split, that is all we need to know. Whatever the causes there was bound to be emotion on both sides so I leave it at that. But this masterpiece is what came out of Tuomas' emotions. The beginning is a boy soprano, Guy Elliott who also does the spoken parts. The whispering at the beginning is the central spoken section, but played in reverse. In The Dark Tower fantasy, Empathica, also known as the White Lands of Empathica, is a snowy tundra located in End-World. The residents of Empathica are known for their abilities to empathize and share other people's emotions. Then we get the whole section "Home". I see the "shoulder cries more" as having no shoulder to cry on because the other members of the band - his friends - were equally upset. The "whore for the cold world" I see as the selling of his whole life to the music industry (the metaphorical pimps, hence the "whore" references) which is not interested in the person, only what they can get from the band. The two faces bit is self explanatory; almost everyone will have been in situations where they have to hide their feelings and present a false front to the world. The reference to betrayal is again obvious and there are lots of metaphors in the surrounding words. The altar I think, is the tie to the band - these upheavals in 2004/5 were not the first time Tuomas had felt like ending the band. By the way, note the 3 minutes and counting: exactly 3 minutes later you get the guillotine motion. By the way, Marco made the demo version of this, with all the lyrics sung by himself and with harsher lyrics at this point too. Next we get to the Mother and Father section with Floor, Marco and Emppu all sitting, while Floor sings lyrics reflecting the words from his mother when he went back home for a break in the middle of all this turmoil. These are the words of love and then of advice, that he was given. Floor here is using her finger movements to accentuate emotion. This whole section and the way Floor sings it, is packed with those damned Onion Ninjas. Marco's harmonies are wonderful. We end with the final ethereal notes from Floor and here is another tingle-factor moment. Then a gentle piano ending, the calm after the emotional storm. Here, as in Sparkle my Scenery, the choir on the original album is replaced by Floor who wanted to sing them herself (and proved completely capable of it) which Anette could not have done - she could probably get the notes but the emotion is there in the choral original and is amplified when Floor sings it. The low brass used in many places is really effective. On the performance itself: When Emppu goes over to Tuomas and later both Marco and Emppu go over, it is a sign of moral support. They both know how difficult this is for him - eventually he had the vocals turned off in his in-ear, so he didn't have to listen to them because Floor put such emotion into them. At the end, she does not say "Thank you" immediately, as she does normally. Instead she looks over for a few seconds to check on him from her position. BTW, I have never bought the theory that Tuomas was "in love" with Tarja. Those who say he asked her to join the band because he knew her from school - she was suggested by Emppu who had known her as an acquaintance at school. Tuomas' did know her of course and his mother was for a while her piano teacher, but it was Emppu who suggested her.

[@Mischnikvideos]

Tuoams is not so warm-hearted that I can imagine him as the heart. He is the brain. The other band members together are the heart that pumps blood and life into the brain. In 2005, the first singer was fired and Tuomas came under enormous public pressure. Imagine if Linkin Park had fired Chester and hired Emily after a year. The Linkin Park change is still making waves after a seven-year break. The song deals with this situation of change. Tuomas said in an interview that he himself never thought about killing himself. Nevertheless, he finally removed the song from the set list after this tour.

[@ryanlucker7680]

does anyone know where gabriel is these days? floor was the only one that could bring this piece to life and made it a epic piece wich was ment by tuomas

[@silverblack5475]

He usually only shows up on 1st time reactions .

[@fearisachoiceyouembrace]

❣️🤘

[@7thsin427]

@A View From Stage nahh you both stop crying let it out broo we are here!

[@kimmikke_]

Keep a story through whole Album, check the 3 last Albums of Nightwish and you have it - also older had a theme the songs followed and told stories under and from the Theme..

[@wmarkwitherspoon]

Add "Day of ...." to the ones you need to see.

[@manuelmorante9465]

👍👍😎😎🤘🤘

[@jeffreyphipps1507]

In 2005, the first singer Tarja Turunen was fired after a very serious argument. The band gave Tarja a letter outlining the reasons for her dismissal after the concert. Apparently another argument ensued and the band published the letter, leading Tarja to be publicly humiliated. She called a press conference where she tearfully answered some questions. Tarja had for a time planned to go solo, partially at the urging of her husband. On the next album (Dark Passion Play) Nightwish released songs, one aimed at Tarja and another aimed at her husband. "Bye, Bye Beautiful" was aimed at Tarja (though the music video is stupid) and is sung by the second singer Anette Olzon. "Master, Passion, Greed" is aimed at Tarja's husband, though it has never been performed live and it sort of feels like the band wishes they could take it back. That said, Tarja has forgiven the singer, Marco Hietala and he does shows with her. Also on the Dark Passion Play album was "The Poet and the Pendulum" which is a song about the deep depression felt by Tuomas when the letter was published and a large number of former friends publicly attacked the band and him personally. He was told by family to place his feelings of depression and suicide in this song. It's important to note that this song is sectioned to run through emotions one feels. You were correct at the beginning - it was a boy singing. The voices whispering represent those heard by people with dangerous depression levels often associated with suicide. That section mentions that the song writer is dead at that point. As the song progresses, one finds the action of the theoretical suicide by blade, then peace toward the end. When Anette was singing in the band, she got news that she lost a custody battle the day of a concert. That night while singing this song she ran screaming in tears off the stage. This is a very personal song that Floor brings very much to life. However, this was 2015 and I don't think the band performed this song after that year.

[@nicod1361]

why so many people choose their own interpretations instead of just listening and reading what Tuomas has said, that the song is NOT about Tarja getting fired/leaving the band nor is it about how the band felt about that ( as they all wanted it)nor is it about any suicide thoughts as their where none, it is ONLY about how Tuomas dealt with & felt about the media & fan backlash,blame & hate/

[@roy19491]

Tuomas (the Metal Mozart) Holopainen is the keyboardist, co-founder (in 1996), leader, guru, composer, lyricist, arranger, and producer of 95% of the band's music......

[@richardh1467]

👍👍👍

[@art3mis290]

Tuomas wanted to kill himself so he created this song and does so in the video. Having the words available you would have known more of what was going on. I would suggest you watch it again with the words, more clarity and impactful. This was at Wembley 2015 his band mates check on him during the performance and Floor glances at him as this was very personal to Tuomas. I cry every time I watch this for Tuomas!

[@nicod1361]

please stop saying that as it is absolutely FALSE , he has said so in more than one interview

[@GryLi]

Manificent

[@aether13x69]

This isn't Wacken. It's Wembley.😊

[@chadbennett7873]

This is a major soap opera about firing their original singer and the incredible backlash they took from the fanbase. The whole section with Marco was basically about that fanbase backlash. Fortunately, Tuomas went to his parents and found solace, which is reflected in the last section by Floor. You'll notice that the three members who were part of firing Tarja, it was a unanimous vote of the band members, gather around him at the end, showing solidarity and support for each other. I know others will get into greater detail, so I won't here and give them their space. This is as deep as a song can get, and if you wish, you can research that depth. All the poop is online. Nice reaction.

[@manuelmorante9465]

👍👍

[@Bramfly]

Soap opera? Not funny dude.

[@chadbennett7873]

@@Bramfly It was a soap opera in how it played out. Both sides were at fault, but true feelings were hurt, both with the band and the fan base. I wasn't being funny, I was indicating how it was played out in the press. I've never been a fan of Tarja, and regardless of her desire to leave anyway, I understand she was hurt by the event, but I blame Marcelo for putting her in that position. We all have our views, and are certainly entitled to them. If I hurt your feelings, I apologize, but it's exactly as I saw it and stand by my statement.

[@JWS-66]

many comments said it already, Tuomas wrote this'' masterpiece'', after the backlasch he was getting after the dismissing from Tarja the first singer of Nightwish...love it Wembley 2015.... I like there new songs, but stil missing Marko's voice, sorry...

[@malmkwaks]

Hi AVFTS, i love to see your reaction videos of Nightwish. For me they are the best band in the world 😍 I also have another recommendation for you. If you like surprises and prog music, then try this masterpiece of our Dutch genius Arjen Anthony Lucassen with 11 awesome singers (I won't spoil who they are, but i think you will recognize some of them 😉): Ayreon - The Day That The World Breaks Down. Here is the link to the video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXfYfn6ap9-Dp7c You will be blown away by all the talented musicians and singers! You won't be dissappointed....I PROMISE! Hope to see your reaction to this masterpiece soon and for now....Greetings, stay safe and lots of love from The Netherlands, Martin.

[@undead.rising]

That's not Wachen! The best version of this song is the live version at Gampel in 2008 anyway.

[@albertkassenaar7735]

There are 5 parts not 2

[@RaymondvanGelderen]

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[@darkaether2798]

Ok, not gonna lie… everyone who says: “what’s up everyone” is not going to get top marks. Same with anyone who says: “it’s your guy/whatever”…….. Please do something original.