How does TF2's scoreboard work, actually?

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TF2 is a mechanically dense game, and not even the scoreboard can escape that. I'm sure you've gotten used to it by now - you press tab just to look at your K/D ratio, teammates' points, or something equally as quick and then immediately close it. But have you ever wondered what the little numbers at the bottom mean, like support, bonus, and the like? Or alternatively, have you ever wondered how many points things like captures, invulns, or teleports are giving you? Well for the longest time playing this game, I certainly did, so I wanted to make the definitive scoreboard breakdown video to hopefully explain every little bit about it.
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List of my favorite words in no particular order: tf2, team fortress 2, gameplay, scout, soldier, pyro, demoman, heavy, engineer, medic, sniper, spy, what if, gameplay, tier list, 100 players

[@Great_Blue]

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[@VivianWasntHere]

@@Great_Blue What are the ethical ramifications of you eating chicken as a heron?

[@roastcheese1877]

@@VivianWasntHere Herons are carnivores and will eat birds 💀

[@UNALLOYEDSLOP]

the fursuit is actually a genius marketing strat since most people skip over sponsor segments, but half the comments can’t stop talking about it

[@karunyagopan]

dont matter, no one is selling me microwave slop other than my stomach during a coffee fueled all-nighter

[@VivianWasntHere]

You actually used the fucking suit for the ad lmao

[@SawedOffLaser]

Honestly I think bringing out the fur suit for ads is a GREAT bit.

[@dungww2006]

Is that a Reverend Insanity reference? Fang Yuan from Reverend Insanity? Little Beast King? The Wolf King Chang Shan Yin in disguise?? Fucking suit for the ad is the highest of all living beings. Gu is the essence of Heaven and Earth. Refine fixed immortal travel gu. Reverend Insanity blessed Ren Zu

[@ThatNerdGuy0]

Not beating the feathery allegations smh

[@Bupboy]

That's not a suit, great blue is actually just a bird in real life, don't you guys know??

[@zexalcommander7036]

What suit? He's just a pelican err- Heron?

[@murbed.]

idk i think scoreboard tracks score

[@fancydoge5611]

nuh-uh

[@unclejojo3702]

Correct! You get a bonus point!

[@JonathanNormandy]

Silli cat

[@usernametaken017]

what kinda score though

[@SomeVRKid]

​@@usernametaken017the digital in game score

[@gorfoo657]

Was not expecting you to use the fursuit for a sponsor, I'll give you that.

[@Beatroot985]

The Reason (I think) that the huntsmann gives support points is probably something to do with the projectile being the same as the crusaders crossbow at some point and its just become an artifact in the point system (but idk for 100% sure)

[@daniboi_oneninefive]

basically, source spaghet

[@titicaca.]

I dont think so, huntsman was released before the crossbow

[@taibasarovadil]

​@@titicaca.but crossbow used to shoot huntsman arrows I think, so its possible they fucked something up back then

[@Beatroot985]

@@taibasarovadil yeah this was what I was thinking of it can be hard to remember things chronologically in a game like tf2

[@Recruit_Zer0]

​@@taibasarovadilohhh so THAT'S why the crossbow has that nonsensical "No Headshots" stat

[@TrueKrisDreemurr]

the scoreboard system in tf2 has always seemed like a strange case to me

[@dungww2006]

Is that a Reverend Insanity reference?

[@gamerdudemanguy]

what do people mean by " he used the suit lol" isnt he an actual human sized bird....

[@Bupboy]

That's what I'm saying, he's not _in_ a bird suit, he _is_ a bird

[@SeaRavioli]

8:05 I prefer to use the term "super skilled sexy tf2 player points" but pity points also works I guess

[@menaatefadly]

Well a spy really needs them

[@fancydoge5611]

He's not a furry, he's a bird.

[@heinrichkrull2523]

So he's an Avian.

[@Leeloo-Foxx]

birds fall under the catergory of furry though. so technically yes he is

[@RisdenHarmon]

​@@Leeloo-Foxx You misunderstand, he IS a bird. The fursuit is a disguise, made to trick you into thinking he's a human who just likes animals.

[@Mr_Mundee]

no hes a stork

[@icetide9411]

You fools, it means he's a feathery. If there's furries and scalies, then there's featheries

[@vikavolt11]

Can't believe you failed to mention that reflecting huntsman arrows can let you get headshots as a Pyro, the stats screen will even say "Most Headshots: X (As Pyro)"

[@TheMostEpicest]

4:50 Bonus fact: Even though you can't push the cart when invis, you actually still get a capture point every 10 seconds, meaning you can sit on the cart with cloak and dagger for infinite points

[@MadContendery]

YOU HAVE A FURSUIT?

[@theboi7475]

great blue birdsuit

[@Celestial_Eclipse]

I’m gonna guess it’s to hide his identity rather than an actual furry. Also it’s a great blue heron, so fair is fair.

[@rasciii]

he's based for that

[@MadContendery]

@@rasciii true

[@forkbobm]

thats actually so sick

[@mrgopher1734]

The reason spies and snipers dominate scoreboards i believe is because backstabs and headshots count as double score per kill - allowing them to easily farm points

[@algotkristoffersson15]

But backstabs and headshots are also hard to get

[@sliftyy]

​@@algotkristoffersson15 Headshots aren't hard to get. Just point and click from a distance where enemies can't harm you.

[@algotkristoffersson15]

@@sliftyy except they are. Hitting someone in the head is a lot more difficult than hitting them wherever.

[@sliftyy]

@@algotkristoffersson15 You aren't punished for missing headshots really, you can just rescope and try again. If a Spy misses a backstab he dies instantly, if a Scout misses his shots and can't dodge he dies or has to run away etc. Sniper is the only one who doesn't get punished. And hitting headshots really isn't that hard, just takes some practice and knowing basic tactics like acknowledging which path a player is walking on and placing your crosshair where they'll walk to.

[@JAIBADRIVISHAAL]

​@@algotkristoffersson15 headshots are way toooo easy to get , backstabs are extremely difficult to get

[@idavid8391]

6:50 As a new and fairly doodoo player, thankfully assists count too--specifically for the revenge aspect.

[@Caragoner]

Seeing the fursuit was complete fuckin whiplash. I love that you committed to the bit though

[@WoofleTheWolf]

1:33 blue has a fursuit????

[@Weatherboy1102]

Iirc a bunch of viewers crowdfunded it and he begrudgingly accepted it

[@WoofleTheWolf]

@@Weatherboy1102 thats funny as hell

[@shawwfia8650]

Yea at some point his entire fkn community got together and got it for him lmao- he is NOT a furry (blatant lies)

[@gohort]

honestly sort of wish I that hadn't seen Schizo MvM, because I can't imagine how funny it would be to see the fursuit without any sort of context or acknowledgement

[@s4videos]

I feel like if you make a video about a UI element in a game, you should probably temporarily disable the mod you use for that UI element. 2 reasons: the obvious one (clarity and consistency with what most people will experience) and the one were the comments will be full of people asking "what hud is that", "where download link" etc. You're just walking into a tsunami of hud-acquisition questions. No one reads the description for this sort of information.

[@Bupboy]

It's not in the description anyway, but as someone who uses the hud (Darhud), it's basically just a spiced up vanilla hud, so there's really no issue here

[@angryrollofbread]

as someone who has never played TF2 i really appreciate you going over the really obvious aspects of the scoreboard

[@GunSpyEnthusiast]

I can imagine the patch note now. " Due to popular demand, the heavy is now rewarded for treason, as the medic was already. "

[@shoulderpyro]

Another thing regarding the deadringer faking deaths is the little character icons on the enemy team on the top of the screen. Killing a spy proper has him show up there. Killing a spy with a deadringer has him NOT show up there. So if you think one's deadringing, just look at the top of the regular hud or wherever your custom hud moved those icons after killing one

[@nyancatec]

It was fixes few years back, now It looks like he's dead both on scoreboard and top HUD.

[@shoulderpyro]

@@nyancatec Has it? I've never realised it. Or they fixed it a few years back and its now broken again on casual servers cus I could swear he doesnt show up dead on the icons. Or it reverts to "not dead" upon the spy decloaking with it, because almost every mfer that uses it that I run into as pyro immediately decloaks

[@Jackieness402]

Does Pyro’s invulnerability from phlog taunting count towards invuln points?

[@averagefanenjoyer8696]

No. Invuln just means using ubercharge as a medic

[@Jackieness402]

@@averagefanenjoyer8696 okay cool

[@Jintenzo]

0:22 Bro sounded like nilered for a second there

[@woahachannel]

dude, somehow, it sounds exactly like him, and he says something that nilered would say in the exact tone. this may not be a coincidence.

[@derrick5100]

I mean, I know you’re a Pyro player, but you didn’t have to fool furry

[@r7ne]

List of my favorite words in no particular order: tf2, team fortress 2, gameplay, scout, soldier, pyro, demoman, heavy, engineer, medic, sniper, spy, what if, gameplay, tier list, 100 players

[@woahachannel]

THAT'S 3 WORDS❗❗‼️❗

[@the_really_blobfish]

5:58 yes hello its me the 5 passtime fans

[@usernametaken017]

they/them mfs:

[@JAIBADRIVISHAAL]

BASED

[@TwiliPaladin]

Fun fact: My first time topscoring was when I decided to be a tryhard Medic and equipped the Quick-Fix. I didn't help out with the objective. I didn't deal a single point of damage. Literally all I did was heal, and I ended the round at the top of the leaderboard with five dominations.

[@Bupboy]

I've noticed that I'm often dominated more by medics healing some other cracked dude than by the player being healed in that situation

[@shawwfia8650]

@@Bupboythose kind of medics heal everyone at the same time, and then pop almost immediately apon getting uber on said cracked guy, and that adds up A LOT in the realm of points (medic main having a nerd moment:)

[@Weatherboy1102]

1:51 you know you seem to be wearing that fursuit a lot for someone who hates it

[@woahachannel]

it works for hiding identity, lazypurple style, and it amuses the audience, so yeah

[@potatoezmen]

12:20 sadly i dont have footage but i have a screenshot of me getting -1 kills in a casual match playing around with the sandman

[@alexwackett8238]

Wasnt paying attention and i didnt realise this wasnt shounic until a minute into the video

[@xamadfp]

7:02 Revenge does give you an extra point, though. IIRC they even mention this in the developer commentary as part of their whole "encouraging player interactions" thing.

[@maxSVL]

No way, great blue is a real bird

[@MemesSwitched]

'TJ "Heavy" Yoshi' is a blast to the past and it's really funny to me

[@turboranger7550]

Yeah, basically doing the sandman exploit strat on Mannpower is possible because "Bonus" exists, becoming the fastest way to earn quick experience in big amounts... _if only it had a real purpose rather than a small medal icon_

[@RoyBlox]

Great blue really doesn't like TJ Heavy yoshi

[@CuddlyTheMadElite]

btw the domination icon on the scoreboard only goes up to 16. You normally can’t do this unless you play against a really stacked team or playing 100 player servers. You can dominate 30 people but it’ll only show 16.

[@Guile_The_Exile]

We got biblically accurate Birbman before Team Fortress 3. 🗿

[@idiotslayer2]

Banger video. The fursuit followed by the goated Pannenkoek reference were great, but also lots of good game mechanic information here!

[@Bupboy]

2:57 what blue doesnt mention is that deaths actually inflict mental damage on the player This comes from experience because every 32 seconds i seem to be looking at that god forsaken respawn timer

[@ODISeth]

Holy shit how did I not know you had a fursuit That’s amazing

[@sophiedeergirl]

Support points in TF2 have always seemed like a strange case to me

[@The-ms2ub]

I didn’t skip the ad at the beginning but somehow I was paying such little attention that it didn’t even register he was wearing a fursuit

[@MisterBurgerBeachball]

We're talking about how the bloody scoreboard works, now. This really is what years without updates does to a community. Good video, though. Nice fursuit, actually made me watch the sponsor, which I'm now actually interested in.

[@0necraftyninja256]

Fun dead ringer fact, the fake domination/revenge that can sometimes be triggered can give your an achievement if it happens to line up. One guy in a server once got the Gibus from me by getting revenge when I dead ringered.

[@masteryadiel]

2:18 not blue struggling to open the food

[@frog_phone]

note: the damage meter does not track any damage that is over the enemy's health. e.g if i kill a stock scout with a fully charged heatshot, i only get 125 damage, not 450.

[@derpysquid6595]

Fun fact, killing someone as they are being auto balanced will subtract one kill from your scoreboard.

[@RmsOceanic]

Support actually does contribute to your points. It behaves like Damage/Healing in that you need 600 support to earn one point. If you look at your example, the Buff Banner on Upward footage (such as at 11:38), you have six points: 3 for your three kills, 2 for bonus reasons, 0 for your one assist, 0 for less than 600 damage, but 1 for more than 600 support. Now that doesn't mean every point of damage you enable through support reasons is thrown into support. I believe for Jarate for example the rate is quartered. Probably to avoid super easy farming.

[@drunkdrag0n]

The scoreboard tip I've told multiple people whenever there are Spies using the Dead Ringer; it's the ineffective but useful counter to it.

[@callummacsmith8958]

I once tried to 100% the Lego marvel superheroes game. Every now & then you use it's ambient soundtrack as background music but it's so quiet I keep thinking I'm imagining it and am going insane

[@funnymannotfunny]

Fun fact: if you have a friend on the enemy team and a map with an “open” resupply locker, you can farm infinite points on the scoreboard, which actually improves your casual xp. By spamming teleporters as engi while a spy saps them using the red tape recorder, the spy instantly destroys the building, which with the engi at a resupply locker lets you get a stupidly large amount of points as spy.

[@KingOfTheKindle]

OUTRO MUSIC IS BACK HELL YEAH

[@Koryo172]

It's also quite funny how the dead ringer actually gives you crits for the diamondback if you backstab someone that uses it, even tho he's not dead (same for frontier justice)

[@augustine6683]

1:30 I forgot he was a bird for a moment there and was jumpscared.

[@jiglebellyrokc]

I would imagine the reason for the payload maps having similar cap rates is due to the ABS game type library for Hammer which most mappers use.

[@EdgieAlias]

Absolutely insane TJ "Henry" Yoshi reference.

[@phantomaviator1318]

That fursuit paw in the factor ad threw me for a loop lmao

[@badbreakingbadvideos]

I thougth this was a shounic vid!!

[@lu7ky]

I've once seen a sniper's score go up by 3 for 1 headshot kill. someone in the match informed me that you get ponits for damage and that was likely what it was.

[@L_5050]

surprisingly i knew all of this except for the support category and upward having a different capture rate for some reason, very funny tho

[@Flourish38]

The only reason I clicked on this video was to learn about the elusive “support” category, and… it does nothing. No points. Ok. Sure.

[@blacklight683]

THANK YOU i always wondered how things are translated to score I just kinda guess i know backstabs give 2points, headshots gives 1.5 and normal kills just1 but nothing more

[@zenithrium]

love the fursuit in the ad read was not expecting that

[@Adam-xd9tr]

I have to say, using the fursuit during a sponsor section most people will skip is an ingenious way to keep it hidden from any viewers not in the know.

[@snipeh]

It's still so funny to ne that great blue just has a full on fursuit

[@Puhckaaaa]

I knew Blue could work up to top scoring a bot game. So proud 🥰🥰🥰

[@loleq2137]

I was actually wondering about this when playing recently, pretty interesting stuff!

[@rufusthehunalprophet6648]

I can't believe you did the sponsor in a full birdsuit

[@alechandro89]

okay i may not play pass time but the competetive scene for that mode IS NUTS.

[@MadContendery]

the edge cases: ah!! im edging!

[@__-jp3ry]

The suit caught me off guard lmao

[@MarkusIfquil]

hehe TJ "Heavy" Yoshi, someone's a pannenkoek fan

[@MachoManShark]

yo, i didn't hear the news that the fundraiser reached the goal. congrats blue

[@512TheWolf512]

right, we needd a quick mod that displays kills at all times without holding tab. to easily counter dead ringers, obviously

[@SomeGuyNamedDezecra]

I love it when Great Blue posts, today's been going great for me

[@claymeistereu]

Someone not too long ago said, that despite it having 17 years of content, the people saying you can't do anything original are still wrong. I am still amazed that it is true.

[@AsherCaldwell]

I have been waiting for this video for years.

[@PrusskiyMir]

The [X] in tf2 has always seemed like a strange case to me.

[@kooz8279]

Thank you for the info. I always knew I was bullspitting my mvp scores

[@RacconsAreCute]

I HAVE ALWAYS ASKED MYSELF THIS. THANK YOU MR. GRANDIOSE AZURE!

[@Loolilol]

Really like the last minute

[@bbarbiter]

I think market gardens should give you a bonus point

[@SamuelTrademarked]

the scoreboard system in tf2 has always seemed like a strange case to me.

[@gunspy]

the scoreboard in tf2 has always been a strange case to me

[@AoMohammed]

the tf2 great blue fembird incident (if ykyk)

[@cron1807]

Huntsman probably gives support points because its supposed to be harder to use than the rifles

[@Ignacio-Moonsilver]

am i the only one that realized the music in the background was from "i am bread" ? because oh my god i had to turn up the volume to make sure it wasn't just my imagination for how low the music is

[@bluejay9526]

it really tracks how many times that Big Finger

[@GunSpyEnthusiast]

a point is a point. You can't say it's only a half

[@athanmantas7134]

1:40 bro is either a furry or a school mascot

[@Iranoutofdeas9174]

Good stuff great blue

[@TheSquareEngineer]

the question is, how does tf2 save your score after each round, the statistics that appear before you enter a game/map, sometimes the game saves your statistics and sometimes don't, which i would be thankfully if you or someone explain to me

[@mrshadow422]

The manmelter m2 extingiush thing doesnt have a cooldown, so you can easyli farm a shit ton of points with it

[@j.n7442]

Idea: Make a community server with friendly fire enabled and make it be open for a week and see what the response is

[@paynemabry1917]

great blue a feathery confirmed

[@TheRealAceOfSpad3s]

thank you kind sir for informing me about this

[@marukus_]

this didnt need to be 15 minutes but im bored so this is great!

[@Soapromancer]

Oh, he's a feathery. Somehow that's worse.

[@dragonlord4898]

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