How does the Chinese Communist Party operate?

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South China Morning Post

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@012-g1b
@012-g1b 3 жыл бұрын
Normal Chinese people don't even care about this system while the comments are in war.
@iebulex1925
@iebulex1925 3 жыл бұрын
One party system is not a big deal, like Japan, Singapor. Even thought Japan claim itself a multi-parties democracy, it is a elected-one-party ruling state.Liberal Democratic Party of Japan is another CCP. Never change!
@ConnorTan-sg6jv
@ConnorTan-sg6jv 3 жыл бұрын
True
@DragonDrawing
@DragonDrawing 3 жыл бұрын
Because everyday Chinese people can't comment on KZbin, you know, censured internet and jail time for those who break it.
@kalamarmaximis149
@kalamarmaximis149 3 жыл бұрын
@@iebulex1925 Japan doesn't throw people into death camps and harvest their organs, the party is no way comparable to the ccp
@raphaelz6030
@raphaelz6030 3 жыл бұрын
@@kalamarmaximis149 too much BBC bro
@LaVaZ000
@LaVaZ000 3 жыл бұрын
Let's see what the experts in the comments have to say:
@shadowsamurai4074
@shadowsamurai4074 3 жыл бұрын
It are the demopublicans
@shadowsamurai4074
@shadowsamurai4074 3 жыл бұрын
It are the demopublicans
@mmme6040
@mmme6040 3 жыл бұрын
f you
@tianfeifei5976
@tianfeifei5976 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@LaVaZ000
@LaVaZ000 3 жыл бұрын
@@mmme6040 Here comes the expert.
@Александрблядь
@Александрблядь 3 жыл бұрын
it’s hard to have an opposition if you don’t allow an opposition.
@shanghainewbison7687
@shanghainewbison7687 3 жыл бұрын
When you have 80 million party members, you will always have opposition.
@ld824
@ld824 3 жыл бұрын
The domestic opposition is also in order to finally compromise with each other, and finally there is an implementation plan, like an artificial intelligence machine. Fault tolerance is to find a solution and implement it as soon as possible. The West directly crashes.
@ld824
@ld824 3 жыл бұрын
This is why the Russian democrats will eventually drag Russia into the abyss, because they have never understood what the opposition should do and when should they reach a consensus with the establishment for the benefit of the country.
@singstar7362
@singstar7362 3 жыл бұрын
Isnt west the opposition of Chinese government?
@Dubs22005
@Dubs22005 3 жыл бұрын
@@shanghainewbison7687 or puppets - just saying
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 3 жыл бұрын
Minor but interesting tidbit for those unfamiliar: The Kuomintang (the Nationalist Party that lost the Chinese War and fled to Taiwan) is still a legitimate minor political party and has non-CCP seats at the National People's Congress. Their post-war name is "Revolutionary Committee of the Chinese Kuomintang." According to Wikipedia, they have 43 seats in the NPC and 6 seats in the NPC Standing Committee, which means they do actually carry some influence.
@floppingtuna2022
@floppingtuna2022 3 жыл бұрын
Their influence got eroded by Xi's entry, like most cliques in the party tho
@underhorse5367
@underhorse5367 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not really the KMT, if I remember correctly it’s a part of KMT that did not support Chang Kai shi.
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 3 жыл бұрын
@@underhorse5367 Technically true too.
@floppingtuna2022
@floppingtuna2022 3 жыл бұрын
@@underhorse5367 ya the party was split so he didn't possess full power for a while
@lavendeer6290
@lavendeer6290 2 жыл бұрын
They are the left-wing of the KMT, more loyal to the original principles of unity, who CKS split with.
@willz229
@willz229 3 жыл бұрын
"We have elections at home" Elections at home:
@flhong
@flhong 3 жыл бұрын
So what if there is alot of social problem. Everyday protesting here and there.
@abi1521
@abi1521 3 жыл бұрын
election at home : party 1 vs party 2 that causes chaos, division and instability
@dawuid1491
@dawuid1491 3 жыл бұрын
@@flhong That means you have a lot of social problems. Covering it up by not allowing social disobedience or debate on a national scale doesn't solve those problems, it just covers it up, allowing it to expand and blow up one day in catastrophic fashion.
@dowson0417
@dowson0417 3 жыл бұрын
@@abi1521 really isn't about parties in reality. The great political divide in US are mostly because the capitalists want it. So that they make their big corps media brainwash ppl into many different factions. Identity politics very much part of them. A people united was when the Wall street fear them the most. They just don't want people in charge of US, they want their money in charge of US.
@amei653
@amei653 3 жыл бұрын
@@abi1521 it also give different point of view which give birth to solution to different problem and make a person creative and innovative which clearly what ccp is lacking.
@kvassmacncheese
@kvassmacncheese 3 жыл бұрын
As a chinese... I will say this is incredibly accurate! Finally someone has a chance to explain things here
@jimmyrecard6021
@jimmyrecard6021 3 жыл бұрын
VPN?
@valentindelfs7707
@valentindelfs7707 3 жыл бұрын
Dude its pretty easy to understand english youtube videos as a foreigner
@imperialguardsman5929
@imperialguardsman5929 3 жыл бұрын
VPN or wumao?
@lazymonkey8259
@lazymonkey8259 3 жыл бұрын
@@imperialguardsman5929 笑死我了
@jimmyrecard6021
@jimmyrecard6021 3 жыл бұрын
@Leo.s the internet is extremely regulated by the government in China so i'm wondering how someone from China is able to comment on this.
@bayernfan9557
@bayernfan9557 3 жыл бұрын
The opposition is in Taiwan.
@charlech
@charlech 3 жыл бұрын
The KMT sends thier regards
@legionaryprimedecanus4081
@legionaryprimedecanus4081 3 жыл бұрын
Real china*
@Александрблядь
@Александрблядь 3 жыл бұрын
so basically all reason and rights went over to taiwan.
@k-studio8112
@k-studio8112 3 жыл бұрын
Oppositions since 1950
@Rudenbehr
@Rudenbehr 3 жыл бұрын
@@legionaryprimedecanus4081 Taiwan is a territory of China.
@mindu4864
@mindu4864 3 жыл бұрын
China was ruled by one-party before 1949 - KMT ruled China from 1920s to 1949. SCMP incorrectly stated that China was ruled by one-party starting from 1949.
@twfrogabuser4971
@twfrogabuser4971 3 жыл бұрын
Did China ever been ruled by any multiple party(or political entity)system?
@apinl8844
@apinl8844 3 жыл бұрын
@@twfrogabuser4971 In 1925, at the death of Sun Yat Sen, mulitple political parties controled parts of china for a while (2 years) but the ROC Nationalists reclaimed power in 1927, as Chiang Kai Shek started to control everything again. The ROC under Chiang was authoritarian, although it wasn't communist, it was a military dictatorship (As the military leaders like Chiang had control).
@apinl8844
@apinl8844 3 жыл бұрын
@@twfrogabuser4971 China did have a parliament during the Ming Dynasty. Yes, there was an emperor, but he did not have as much power (Much similar to queen of Britain) and there was a parliament for a while.
@shanghainewbison7687
@shanghainewbison7687 3 жыл бұрын
@@apinl8844 for about 200 years we had a parliament.
@persimmon93
@persimmon93 3 жыл бұрын
Republic of China is the one true China!! Down with the People's Republic of China!!!
@AlokKumar-uv5co
@AlokKumar-uv5co 3 жыл бұрын
As an INDIAN one can criticise China as much as he can....... But they are developing with a superfast speed it means they are doing right things
@我爱你妈
@我爱你妈 3 жыл бұрын
@@AndorranStairway China also have many dialects and different local cultures because of it's size and history.
@AndorranStairway
@AndorranStairway 3 жыл бұрын
-我爱你妈 and yet over 90% of the country speaks mandarin
@我爱你妈
@我爱你妈 3 жыл бұрын
​@@AndorranStairway that is because of the policy of PRC, and the country unify the language. So basically I'm saying indian shouldn't use language and culture diversity as an excuse. They need to realize their backwardness is caused by their insufficient policy. The challenge for two countries at very beginning was basically the same.
@我爱你妈
@我爱你妈 3 жыл бұрын
@@AndorranStairway parliamentary system has ruined many developing nations including India. Their governments won't get anything done
@AndorranStairway
@AndorranStairway 3 жыл бұрын
-我爱你妈 the problem is that standard Mandarin already saw at least half of China understanding the language 70 years ago. China also doesn’t even come close to the number of languages India currently has. It is not possible to enforce Hindi as the national language due to how divided the country is linguistically and culturally. Such an action would likely cause wide protests and rioting. You cannot apply Chinese policy to India
@kazuhirala
@kazuhirala 3 жыл бұрын
They’re basically CAPCOM (Capitlism/Communism) and they use each when they see fit.
@xleplex7070
@xleplex7070 3 жыл бұрын
Communism with Chinese characters at its finest.
@today8100
@today8100 3 жыл бұрын
@@xleplex7070 "Socialism"*
@COLMECTIGAMINGANDMORE
@COLMECTIGAMINGANDMORE 3 жыл бұрын
@@today8100 socialism and communism are horrible Edit : Bruh i never ever lived in America i am from a former communist country
@today8100
@today8100 3 жыл бұрын
@@COLMECTIGAMINGANDMORE Because living in America through the 70s tells you so?
@louvibes8717
@louvibes8717 3 жыл бұрын
@@today8100 go to a communist country if you feel so strongly on liking communism
@akagi7408
@akagi7408 3 жыл бұрын
Here before the comment section starts World War 3.
@trocustar3450
@trocustar3450 3 жыл бұрын
WELL WW3 gonna happen irl in the future.
@bryan6040
@bryan6040 3 жыл бұрын
@@trocustar3450 at least we were here
@floppingtuna2022
@floppingtuna2022 3 жыл бұрын
There won't be a ww3. Too costly. More like economic and sociocultural wars
@JohnSmith-mv6qj
@JohnSmith-mv6qj 3 жыл бұрын
There will be no WW3 if the government of China and USA can trust each other. The past two world war were all ignited by some small misunderstanding.
@gato48480
@gato48480 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-mv6qj One archduke and one rejected art school application.
@jbi1839
@jbi1839 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not the economy, it’s the quality of life that matters.
@joshuathompson4242
@joshuathompson4242 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrpotatomanboii3237 oh, aren't you an expert!
@mrpotatomanboii3237
@mrpotatomanboii3237 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshuathompson4242 was that supposed to be sarcastic
@clairvoyantapparition9755
@clairvoyantapparition9755 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrpotatomanboii3237 you ignore poverty aviation program
@lukemurray4950
@lukemurray4950 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrpotatomanboii3237 another person who knows nothing about China and buys into propaganda. Country took all of its people out of absolute poverty quicker than anyone in history. Now is creating more millionaires and billionaires than America. And everyone in the country has access to education, housing electricity and medical care. Something that isn't guaranteed in America and that's why you see so many homeless, uneducated, sick people in America and not in China. And let's not even start on infrastructure.
@Shanoyu19271
@Shanoyu19271 3 жыл бұрын
@@lukemurray4950 wow dude its like they allow 1billion people to work and it somehow rises the fastest!
@穹-u5q
@穹-u5q 3 жыл бұрын
The oppositions remain widespread in the party,one whole party doesn't mean all the communists share the same opinion.
@穹-u5q
@穹-u5q 3 жыл бұрын
@Friendly Bane I don't care who rule the party, Xi and his think tank will do the right thing. If he fails, someone would replace him.
@minz5334
@minz5334 3 жыл бұрын
@Friendly Bane What the people will supervise, as long as it is correct, will be supported by the people.
@YananLiAsura
@YananLiAsura 3 жыл бұрын
Ever since the fall of Jack Ma, South China Morning Post, one of Ma's major publishing business outside China, has taken a sharp turn on its point of view towards the motherland of its owner.
@timurermolenko2013
@timurermolenko2013 3 жыл бұрын
Half of their production is memes from China intranet🤦🏻‍♂️
@Azanerd
@Azanerd 3 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about..? Jack Ma is fine.
@Azanerd
@Azanerd 3 жыл бұрын
@@adriangaming4853 Bro... We ain't even bots man. I defend what I want to defend, and yeah, I am using my right to speak.
@fluffyseal8782
@fluffyseal8782 3 жыл бұрын
@@adriangaming4853 this guy has been brainwashed by western propaganda,oh the irony
@jeremygallardo8096
@jeremygallardo8096 3 жыл бұрын
@@fluffyseal8782 kinda crazy how you say it's Western Propaganda. Just the the concept Western Propaganda regarding China to the scale Chinese nationalists perceive it as is just wrong. It's ironic that a country that's ideology is based on censorship calls other countries media Propaganda when the media inside China is literally vetted by the government...
@zimpiratecoms
@zimpiratecoms 3 жыл бұрын
This video is incomplete. It doesn't even explain the process one goes through to become a Politburo member or even a President
@panchovilla5458
@panchovilla5458 3 жыл бұрын
Well would you rather watch a 30 minute video or a 6 minute video
@newjerseygreaser5007
@newjerseygreaser5007 3 жыл бұрын
@@panchovilla5458 Still better than our corrupt system of fake elections & illusjon of "democracy" for the dumb. We`re not even allowed to talk about who is really on top, abowe our mupped "presidents" etc. China is more honest after all.
@Cleeon
@Cleeon 3 жыл бұрын
@@LK-ho1dg the reasons about size is just a Riddiculous thing, the real problem how smart and strong the Majority, most peoples in China is weaker compared United States, want a proof? Just reply then i will answers, but be carefull my reply can give more shame to your Nation
@silverchairsg
@silverchairsg 3 жыл бұрын
Guanxi, bribes, manipulation, employing the 36 strategems...
@zimpiratecoms
@zimpiratecoms 3 жыл бұрын
@@panchovilla5458 It ommits the most important part that defines the Chinese political system
@ben8718
@ben8718 3 жыл бұрын
If it works it works
@WangMotions
@WangMotions 3 жыл бұрын
It ain’t gonna last. It ain’t gonna work forever
@sextuplemillionsellersfan7961
@sextuplemillionsellersfan7961 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t imagine China being ruled under western system, it will be a disaster. Even the west can’t realise the system they created
@AbsoluteZero6714
@AbsoluteZero6714 3 жыл бұрын
So in your opinion a highly opaque dictatorship that’s increasingly becoming a totalitarian state is the alternative? I agree with you that democracy even as practiced by the West is extremely flawed, but that just means we should strive to make it better. IMO for all I care, China could be a loose confederation of states and hey that could be better. China is about the same size, or slightly bigger than Europe and it’s just as diverse as Europe. Marrying someone from another region can be like marrying someone from another country. I hope the day will come that Sun’s 3 Principles will be reaffirmed, and that the Communist occupiers will be destroyed.
@lianghao7128
@lianghao7128 3 жыл бұрын
@@AbsoluteZero6714 China has a better idea,it is called meritocracy
@AbsoluteZero6714
@AbsoluteZero6714 3 жыл бұрын
@@lianghao7128 Meritocracy? Do you think they’d really allow someone with the right ideas but is not necessarily supportive of the Party’s methods? And what constitutes merit anyway? Is economic growth at the expense of everything else considered merit in every scenario?
@mikeevans6344
@mikeevans6344 3 жыл бұрын
you don't need to have an opposition party to have different opinions. if you think all the members of the communist party are all forced to agree with each other, how is it possible they can improve? China could not have improved so much if they don't have self reflection, self criticism and self betterment of their mistakes. actually democratic nations having showed that having an opposition party actually stagnates improvement and development, because parties make it a sport to go against each other no matter what.
@ash.mystic
@ash.mystic 2 жыл бұрын
It’s questionable at best whether China has actually “improved so much”. Their rapid economic growth has been unsustainable and is leading to huge financial, social and environmental crises.
@rodrigoalves-cg6xv
@rodrigoalves-cg6xv 2 жыл бұрын
@@ash.mystic lol yeah keep believing on that... right-wing liberals are saying the same bs for years and China is stronger than ever
@wky7281
@wky7281 2 жыл бұрын
作为中国大陆人,可以告诉你,民主是宝贵的。。没有了民主,就会变成法西斯德国或日本一样。。现在已经有这个趋势了。
@taoyin2795
@taoyin2795 2 жыл бұрын
上面这位所谓的中国大陆人,噗,抱歉我们自己一般不这么自称呢,正常人直接说自己是中国人。可以看出你历史观如此浅薄,心智如此幼稚。纳粹德国和日本的产生基于特定的国家困境,他们靠战争来缓解国内经济压力,靠掠夺他国财富变得强大。另外,如果你觉得不民主,那是因为你完全没有认真参与过人大代表选举,与西方不同的民主制度不代表不民主。
@wky7281
@wky7281 2 жыл бұрын
@@taoyin2795 首先,台湾有自己的发展模式,其社会各方面也不受大陆管束,既然翻墙了,就没必要用官方口径代表他们,人家挺幸福,普通人没必要为了某些人的zq合法性卖命。其次,纳粹还是军国,是依据社会的现实情况分析,一党制和领袖崇拜,民族主义(5000年,中央之国),国家和集体主义压制个人权利(数不胜数),崇尚强权武力征服(留岛不留人,战狼外交,老百姓普遍没有安全感表面专心搞钱 实则社达崇拜强权),政策意识形态导向和新闻出版管制(比如清零是医疗问题却绑架制度优越性?),关于历史这些是相似的,纳粹军国就是学习了西方现代生产模式,但对个人权利人道主义却没有启蒙,像个瘸子和今日中国深受西方思潮影响又只器物现代化非常相似。最后,关于全过程人民民主,我不想多说了。。。我以考研政治84分 基本倒背如流 即将参加省直机关定向选调的经历,建议你不要陷入宣传陷阱。我翻墙一般不多说,毕竟有危险,理解。
@Simonezsm
@Simonezsm 3 жыл бұрын
It's CPC not CCP
@willardfields5244
@willardfields5244 3 жыл бұрын
@B1ueSyrup the cpc never call itself ccp
@Supernova-sz4oy
@Supernova-sz4oy 3 жыл бұрын
CCP
@timurermolenko2013
@timurermolenko2013 3 жыл бұрын
Like CCCP but more lame
@Pierina.24
@Pierina.24 3 жыл бұрын
@B1ueSyrup ""it can be CCP and CPC"" No, it can not because there are foreignors from other countries that are members of the Chinese government (CPC) and are not Chinese. Plus nobody in China calls their government the CCP either, only the US and her aggrogant allies relabelling everything in the world as they please.
@powerplayer75
@powerplayer75 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pierina.24 "Chinese" in CCP can be interpreted as nationality not ethnicity. Also, do Chinese even use CPC anyway? Why would they use a roman alphabet lol
@recordkeepingandinformatio8206
@recordkeepingandinformatio8206 3 жыл бұрын
2:13 who had the bright idea to name the national congress NPCs?
@cottontheeastercottontailr265
@cottontheeastercottontailr265 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@HenryTitor
@HenryTitor 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, that was Easter egg
@johanhirte9661
@johanhirte9661 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@christianvaniten
@christianvaniten 3 жыл бұрын
The only self-aware person in the country apparently.
@Pabloinjuanderland
@Pabloinjuanderland 3 жыл бұрын
I mean they are initially the same thing and same function as an NPC hahaha
@xiaqinyueac
@xiaqinyueac 2 жыл бұрын
At least it's unlike the political system in my country where even a boxer can run for the highest position 😂
@yuluoxianjun
@yuluoxianjun 2 жыл бұрын
LOL,SO FREE
@monanoorch8699
@monanoorch8699 2 жыл бұрын
@@yuluoxianjun ?
@maolo76
@maolo76 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with democracy is they are ruling with emotions. The Chinese are ruling with science and technical rules.
@sebastianbal1008
@sebastianbal1008 2 жыл бұрын
@@maolo76 and genocides
@donotreplydumbpeople3866
@donotreplydumbpeople3866 Жыл бұрын
@@sebastianbal1008 oh yes, west NEVER EVER HAD DONE THAT 😮
@johnnyw6467
@johnnyw6467 3 жыл бұрын
In this video there are some misleading statement. China is governed by only 1 party, and the leader is not elected, at least not via a typical directly voted way. But it is far from dictatorship, and certainly less of dictatorship than many western countries. China system is classified as Meritocracy, for the following reasons: 1, The top governors. China is not governed by the president alone, the highest decision maker is not a person, instead it's a group of 5 or 7 people called the "Standing Committee of the Political Bureau"(SCPB), the members of which normally hold the following positions: President, and/or Vice- President, Congress Chairman, Prime Minister, Military Committee Chairman (normally same person as the President, but not always) Chairman of Political Consultative Conference Committee, and one in charge of legislative affairs (the Court, the Procuratorate, Inspection, and Police affairs) By controlling those positions, the China Communist Party (CCP) run the country. It's no one-rules-all situation. Power is well balances and mutually conditioned. Believe me, more or less the committee members do not share a uniform political interest. It kind of like a weaker multi party system, except that it's multi-group within one party President Xi, who is also the chairman of Military Committee, holds the strongest position among the 7 people, but he's no way to dictate. What he says for the critical issues is actually not from himself, it's from the committee instead, if he disagrees, sorry, he has to reserve it. Therefore, the country is led by a "collectively leadership". In this mean, President Xi is far less powerful in China than President Trump in USA. 2, The selection and promotion system. In china, the leaders are not elected, but selected. Well, theoretically, the President and the VP Military Committee chairman, President of Supreme Court, and Procurator General are voted by the Congress, but in practical, they are nominated by the only ruling party, there're not too much of voting. How a guy get to be nominated is important. There's a so called "Organization Department" in CCP whose role is pretty much like the HR department in a big company. This department is in charge of the annual appraisal of all government officials, as well as trainings, promotions, and anything you can imagine happening in a HR department. They have a very sophisticated procedure to do the job, the most important weighting factors for an official performance would be GDP social stability, and so on. Basically, for a guy to enter central government, he has to continue to be outstanding for tens of years. The power center of the CCP would be the Political Bureau which consists of like twenty people. Once in the Political Bureau, he's qualified for the final power game. To get to be the member of the standing committee (the most powerful 5 or 7 guys), there would be a lot of balancing, gaming, and wrestling. Of course you wouldn't expect those competitions are just between several individuals, actually each player is backed up by some group, and in return he speaks for the group. That gives you an idea of how a guy struggle his way to be a national leader 3, The history of China Meritocracy. There are a lot of concepts borrowed from the westerners in current China political system. However, there's also huge cultural heritage from the history. The origin of the mentioned official selection system can be tracked back to one thousand years ago, the Sui Dynasty. The system was called "Kejue", ( see Wiki Imperial examination ) it's a series of national examinations to promote the talented people to the ruling class, all the way from the very bottom of the society The examinations are four levels in series, held annually. Almost everyone in the country are welcome, except for a small portion of the population (like less than 1%) such as those in the prostitution, or entertainment businesses. If you decide to go with this path, you would start studying very hard, mostly those Confucius classical works, alone with history, literature, and philosophies. Once you pass the entry level exam, you will officially be a "Shi". It elevate yourself from the civilian class (consists of farmers, workers, and businessmen), then you get privileges such as free from some taxes and the corvee labor obligation, in any audience with local governors, you will be offered a chair, and don't have to bow to him, and more importantly, he will be authorized to get involved in some very local management affairs by the local government, etc. but that's far from enough In order to get your hand into politics, you need go further and take the next level exams, with higher and higher possibilities to enter the government, all the way to the final one, with is designed and held by the emperor himself. If you pass that you will be the envied "JinShi" and guaranteed to enter government, and most possibly, end up your career. This is how the civilians, even the poorest from the bottom of the society, are able to lift himself up to the upper class. 4. The elitism in current China system. Elitism is naturally compatible with meritocracy, and it has deep root in Chinese culture too. One of a famous slogan from Confucius is "mental labors rule others, and physical labors. are ruled by others", You can also find such similar thoughts in ancient poets such as "Everything are low, expect reading is noble". For CCP, it claims to be communism, speak for the working class, and have a foundation made of worker-peasant alliance. Seemingly it stands right opposite to the elitism And yes, such populism had its way during the Cultural Revolution when Mao ruled the country. At that time, family being bottom of the class is worth of being proud of, and on the contrary, the rich people, professors, scholars, even some military generals were humiliated, tortured, and even killed by "the majorities of workers and peasants". But over these years the CCP evolves into, in my point, a club of elites and has nothing to do with communism expect for the official name. The prerequisite to be admitted by the party is now not based on the belief or the political interest, it's actually based on your performance (in career or in society) and your influence power. So if you want be a governor, join the party first.
@nkaneti
@nkaneti 3 жыл бұрын
thanks, this was really interesting to read
@thegreatone4090
@thegreatone4090 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly for a country of China’s size with 1.4 billion people and over 100 ethic groups you need a strong single party system to hold the country together. I think it’s all comes down to serving the people and not how the government is formed and how many parties there are. It’s more of a balance between holding the country together while allowing opportunities and some freedom for the people. It’s a very delicate balance that most people, especially white people, do not understand or appreciate.
@johnrollex680
@johnrollex680 3 жыл бұрын
You say that as though white people didn't invent communism. Mao literally ripped off the Soviet Union.
@robertabella1806
@robertabella1806 3 жыл бұрын
just so you know 96% of the population is Han. and the country is only held together by oppressing the minorities
@kxvin5402
@kxvin5402 3 жыл бұрын
That’s why in India, 1 billion population, is still in poverty, with democracy.
@stevec8352
@stevec8352 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertabella1806 Based on? If they oppressed how come they give special treatment like not subjected them to one child policy, bonus points university for entrance exams and other benefits.
@robertabella1806
@robertabella1806 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevec8352 wait . They allow their citizens have more than one child? why didn't you said so? most benevelont dictatorship ever
@chaosXP3RT
@chaosXP3RT 3 жыл бұрын
In China and many other countries, there is a strong belief that the benefit of the many outweighs the liberties of the individual. This is in contrast to a nation like the USA, which values the liberties of the individual more greatly. As an American, the USA has always struggled with this belief in the individual. It suffers from crony capitalism giving too much power to wealthy individuals and corporations, while simultaneously oppressing groups of people and occupying foreign nations. Many Americans argue for a stronger central government that places the needs and wants of the many over the liberties of the individuals. Yet, other Americans resist this and even argue that the US government is already too oppressive. They believe that individual liberties need to be strengthened. I believe that the USA's problems all stem from the ideas of the Enlightenment that founded the nation, while it was corrupted by individuals with great power and no desire to fulfill those founding ideals. If I were to praise China on anything, I would say at least China's government is less confusing and the country has less civil strife than the USA.
@WangMotions
@WangMotions 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say China’s government is less confusing. There are way more things behind closed doors that no one knows of.
@Nivek0
@Nivek0 3 жыл бұрын
Your analysis is fine but your conclusion is not. The Chinese government is confusing, because of the fact that we don’t know how they actually debate anything and there is no transparency.
@xalpacazeu1332
@xalpacazeu1332 3 жыл бұрын
No the founders believed that there would be many political parties and never would have guessed just two main central parties, the democrats and republicans. Our federalism system of government was created through compromise and gives more power to the people/states, which I love as an American. Also, last century, political parties and senators would base their decision on consciousness not party. Sadly it is different now. None of us will ever give up abilities such as freedom of speech or press just for the government to have more central power
@michaelsha3857
@michaelsha3857 3 жыл бұрын
@@xalpacazeu1332 your argument rests on an inherent belief that ALL americans would share that same belief with you, but like the og poster mentioned, this is a self idealized concept that prioritizes your own ability to speak out, not one that actually benefits the most people
@observeoutofthebox7806
@observeoutofthebox7806 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nivek0 no it's all on chinese state television. we just dont know mandarin lol
@viserion2209
@viserion2209 3 жыл бұрын
And that worked out really well for them
@youngz13o
@youngz13o 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever their system is, it’s the results to the people that legitimizes their power in the end
@nsebast
@nsebast 3 жыл бұрын
Yep mandate of heaven. China should only be cautious about one thing: corruption. It is always corruption that makes China weak.
@Dubs22005
@Dubs22005 3 жыл бұрын
how many people died before they got these results?
@Dubs22005
@Dubs22005 3 жыл бұрын
@@nsebast corruption in what form? there are a significant number of billionaires in the politburo actually most of the billionaires are official members of the CCP
@damiendong4752
@damiendong4752 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dubs22005 that's ridiculous, or maybe in 1990s. If any member of cpc have so much money, will face to the investigation from the central government.
@Pheer777
@Pheer777 3 жыл бұрын
"Power is derived from the consent of the governed" As long as the CCP can keep the economic growth going, people will probably continue to be okay with it. The second the government's economic policies start seeing diminishing returns, I'd personally wager that disapproval of the party will start to grow.
@peanutshuang
@peanutshuang 3 жыл бұрын
When considering the size of the party, why bother no official political opposition? Don’t you think there’ll be a lot of resistance inside the party?
@mrsobamad3387
@mrsobamad3387 3 жыл бұрын
I'll agree yes with that big of a size you're wondering why haven't some you know...done something but let's all remember loyalty gets you to the top not only that you're skill and knowledge and how to deal with a problem but yes they could.
@ckokloong
@ckokloong 3 жыл бұрын
What is the benefit of having opposition? If you look at all the elections campaign, its mostly everyone making accusation against each other.
@floppingtuna2022
@floppingtuna2022 3 жыл бұрын
There are no official opposition. The gov is made up of members that group up in cliques (similar interests and regions typically) and try to make discussion on what bills to pass
@floppingtuna2022
@floppingtuna2022 3 жыл бұрын
But Xi's rise has undermined the influence of the cliques by centralizing more power instead of the more decentralized state under Hu and Jimin
@taoliu3949
@taoliu3949 3 жыл бұрын
Not every Chinese citizen is a party member.
@harryloo8544
@harryloo8544 3 жыл бұрын
content could be expanded, like what one have to go through to occupy one of those top positions
@zimpiratecoms
@zimpiratecoms 3 жыл бұрын
That is the most important part and shows the brilliance of this system. But I expected this propaganda outfit to ommit that part
@bayernfan9557
@bayernfan9557 3 жыл бұрын
Through civil war from 1920-1949.
@shanghainewbison7687
@shanghainewbison7687 3 жыл бұрын
It’s sort of like climbing through corporate ladders. You have to be very capable, but you also need to be well connected. If you perform poorly, the board members (senior party elders) will kick you out.
@LaowaiDaveJCP
@LaowaiDaveJCP 3 жыл бұрын
It's SCMP. What else can you expect? 😆 they don't wanna burst the western bubble
@puppetMattster
@puppetMattster 3 жыл бұрын
They left out the Orginazation Department, which is the most important agency of the CPC. It's a giant human resources department in charge of promotions within the 12 ranks of the Party.
@ignatiuschua5268
@ignatiuschua5268 3 жыл бұрын
"Negotiating behind closed doors" ... that sounded kinda familiar. Do we not hear law makers in US Congress going behind closed doors to negotiate? Do we not see zero Republican moved over to impeach Trump the first time? Do we not see Mitch and Trump putting their Federal judges in Court and boasting about it?
@WangMotions
@WangMotions 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, except American congressmen are actually elected. American government is flawed, but it’s still morally many levels above the CCP
@kc2763
@kc2763 3 жыл бұрын
@@n4murr are they acting on the best interest of the people who elected them ? Not seeing that though ! What matters is the result of the actions plans ..are they improving the livelihood of people ? TED Cruz flees to warm Mexico resorts when Texas hit by snow storm ...so ?
@waylmaster7487
@waylmaster7487 3 жыл бұрын
Uh oh, 50 cent army
@user-mhgu6om9mj2t
@user-mhgu6om9mj2t 3 жыл бұрын
@@n4murr hmm. Like your dumb country that are electing crooks. Nice sheep.
@WangMotions
@WangMotions 3 жыл бұрын
@@waylmaster7487 they are here quick
@a.w.5048
@a.w.5048 2 жыл бұрын
As an oversea chinese, I still remember how my grandpa told me how poor china was before WWII. They were so weaken after the japanese attacked them, so much has changed since then. A powerful new military to defend the homeland, and millions of chinese highly educated to build a stronger china. I am so proud to say I am Chinese.
@donaldchopin3552
@donaldchopin3552 2 жыл бұрын
Not really... It's complex
@DirceBoy-1917
@DirceBoy-1917 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha you’re saying not really to a person giving his grandfather’s testimony
@howled0
@howled0 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes a country filled with ghost cities and people who fail to pay their mortgages. What a great place to live!
@jumpvelocity3953
@jumpvelocity3953 2 жыл бұрын
@@howled0 true, sounds just like Canada or US (these two countries are most relevant to me) but without the ghost cities.
@henryklazer89
@henryklazer89 2 жыл бұрын
🦠
@biochemwang2421
@biochemwang2421 3 жыл бұрын
Very simple, the current Chinese political system is basically elitism, which is rooted deeply in Chinese history and culture. The communist party is intended to be a group of elite people selected from all sectors of the society. I have no problem with this idea. My major complaint is that this idea is not always accurately executed. By the way, I am a common Chinese people (no party member, 50+ years old) living in Shanghai. China haters simply do not believe that most common Chinese people support their government run by the communist party.
@veradrummond9002
@veradrummond9002 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone in the CCP is qualified and highly educated and have went through a lot of hardships to get to where they are now. In America, you can be in government without any qualifications. The competency of both governments can be seen today.
@starcityrc3298
@starcityrc3298 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's also run by all Men 🤣
@veradrummond9002
@veradrummond9002 2 жыл бұрын
@@starcityrc3298 Imagine choosing Kamala to be the 2nd in command of USA....
@Drannn54
@Drannn54 2 жыл бұрын
Chinese bot, lier
@Chiayiklin
@Chiayiklin 2 жыл бұрын
@@Drannn54 What if I told his a real person ?
@이상호-p3c
@이상호-p3c 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chiayiklin It’s hard for me to imagine life without freedom. Can you even freely criticize Xi and your government in public? Can you even protest? Can you even elect a leader? Is free press is allowed in china? Are there other alternative options than CCP?
@genosse1020
@genosse1020 3 жыл бұрын
looks like we have mixed reactions in the comments...
@electric7487
@electric7487 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I got my popcorn ready
@Azanerd
@Azanerd 3 жыл бұрын
@@electric7487 and my fangs are bared
@MrMuel1205
@MrMuel1205 3 жыл бұрын
To be expected.
@ansonang7810
@ansonang7810 3 жыл бұрын
im neutral . how many Chinese and US bots? reply population 4 US bots 1 Chinese bots
@yys5919
@yys5919 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot open the video while I have no problem watching others. It is black screen with loading icon spinning.
@phuocnguyenngoc7821
@phuocnguyenngoc7821 3 жыл бұрын
How originally thought this channel is controlled and censored by the Chinese Government; however, this video has changed the way I look toward SCMP. Far much reliable and objective than my prior expectations.
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 2 жыл бұрын
SCMP is one of my favourite English-language news sources.
@ajiekurniawansap2598
@ajiekurniawansap2598 2 жыл бұрын
SCMP is actually hongkong's not chinese
@spider6660
@spider6660 2 жыл бұрын
SCMP is still owned by a communist party member.
@carmenlajoie2719
@carmenlajoie2719 Жыл бұрын
Every country has state media, ? Do they manufacture consent for war? CGTN-RT-Telasur don't
@masterdeetectiv9520
@masterdeetectiv9520 Жыл бұрын
@@ajiekurniawansap2598 hong kong is chinese though
@ryanchastainmaxey
@ryanchastainmaxey 3 жыл бұрын
This was a really cool breakdown of China’s government. Love it
@cryp0g00n4
@cryp0g00n4 3 жыл бұрын
not so fast there cowboy - produced from Chinese Alibaba group that must remain loyal to Chinese policies. Its what we are allowed to know.
@cryp0g00n4
@cryp0g00n4 3 жыл бұрын
@Illegal Lettuce so? Suddenly borders close business relationships... nah man... business interests are business interests. Enough said.
@jwd2690
@jwd2690 3 жыл бұрын
You cannot break down the Chinese government [SUBVERSIVE]!
@boysteacher3818
@boysteacher3818 3 жыл бұрын
@@xyforever1546 Wouldn't that be absurd since the Alibaba Group, which is very Pro-Chinese, OWNS SCMP. With that said, the CCP would very much be offended on how one of the subsidiary of Alibaba group is behaving in the public and would very much pressure the company.
@cryp0g00n4
@cryp0g00n4 3 жыл бұрын
@@xyforever1546 interesting. Where do you see that? I'm genuinely curious - thanks for any insight.
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 3 жыл бұрын
People who misunderstand China's party-state political structure will always have an incorrect perception that "China is a one-party state" and "China doesn't allow opposition parties." Because in many ways the party IS the state and vice versa, the CCP is not your typical "political party" as defined in, say, the US. With the "party" and the "government" being nearly one and the same, the idea of "political opposition" exists mostly within the CCP apparatus (with the exception of the mentioned "minor political parties" occupying a small minority in the NPC), rather than a strictly "cross-party" opposition typical of multi-party republics.
@pluspens2134
@pluspens2134 2 жыл бұрын
Tiananmen square
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 2 жыл бұрын
@@pluspens2134 What about it, son
@hashthehammer3726
@hashthehammer3726 2 жыл бұрын
It never happened
@hcjet
@hcjet 2 жыл бұрын
one often misunderstanding is China's top policies are proposed/initiated by each delegated professional committees and discussed/approved by NPC instead of top down decision from Politburo! (they are more making rules instead of detail policies)
@Chiayiklin
@Chiayiklin 2 жыл бұрын
@@canto_v12 Ignore it, it was just some trolling comment
@IsomerSoma
@IsomerSoma 3 жыл бұрын
"Worlds biggest military" I think the US would like to have a say in this.
@jerrychen9068
@jerrychen9068 3 жыл бұрын
this is in the sense of population
@historyeditz8326
@historyeditz8326 3 жыл бұрын
Russia you forgot us.
@jzesu9889
@jzesu9889 3 жыл бұрын
Biggest military in terms of number of soldiers, not strength and influence.
@notyouagain7220
@notyouagain7220 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t matter their soldiers are hugs and the us technology and weapons are the bug spray period
@IsomerSoma
@IsomerSoma 3 жыл бұрын
@@notyouagain7220 Not even you believe that.
@nemeczek67
@nemeczek67 3 жыл бұрын
They operate without anesthesia.
@TCWG87
@TCWG87 3 жыл бұрын
Delivers great results LOL
@muhammadalfatih2640
@muhammadalfatih2640 3 жыл бұрын
The Kung Fu training must have toughened their body up enough to resist the pain
@Azanerd
@Azanerd 3 жыл бұрын
Those are emergencies, Bruh.
@JohnSmith-mv6qj
@JohnSmith-mv6qj 3 жыл бұрын
Actually back to 200 AD anesthetic has been invented by Hua Tuo(华佗), who was a famous doctor in Three- Kindom era. And I guess you are mentioning the story of General Guan Yu(关羽). In classic fiction he is said to cure himself by srcaping the poison off his bone.
@ericshang7744
@ericshang7744 3 жыл бұрын
I’d just say, it’ll be a huge mistake to underestimate the ‘formality’ of all those political science. The formality is part of the political stability, and highly symbolic. The second point is that, the Chinese ‘democracy’ is all about negotiation before those formality, and that’s why there is/will be political stability in China.
@christopherzhao5381
@christopherzhao5381 3 жыл бұрын
They don't even have a democracy
@ericshang7744
@ericshang7744 3 жыл бұрын
@@christopherzhao5381 define democracy?
@christopherzhao5381
@christopherzhao5381 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericshang7744 it's when a government let's their people decide. But China only says that to trick people.
@christopherzhao5381
@christopherzhao5381 3 жыл бұрын
So, if the people could decide like letting western social medias and games into China, the government wouldn't change anything even though they said that they can vote.
@ericshang7744
@ericshang7744 3 жыл бұрын
@@christopherzhao5381 we still need a definition of democracy, otherwise we cannot judge any government. Let people decide is an idea, I’m all up for it. But in what form?
@Nathan-jh1ho
@Nathan-jh1ho 3 жыл бұрын
I like how their legislative body is called the "NPC", it's full of NPCs.
@aasisch
@aasisch 3 жыл бұрын
You sir won the comment of the day award
@aliyanimran3094
@aliyanimran3094 3 жыл бұрын
xd
@bunchberry_
@bunchberry_ 3 жыл бұрын
"NPCs" yet China is skyrocketing while the supposedly "PC" western governments are unstable and their countries are deteriorating and falling apart.
@joei8236
@joei8236 3 жыл бұрын
you are not wrong. They do acts like NPCs, they no longer cares about themselves ,they serve the people, and provides them goods and services.
@johncarlramirez609
@johncarlramirez609 3 жыл бұрын
@@bunchberry_ It's a joke lol
@muchencao7711
@muchencao7711 3 жыл бұрын
The first video of SCMP I’ve watched that has a narrator
@2557carla
@2557carla 3 жыл бұрын
It reminds of Soviet Union style system of government.
@timurermolenko2013
@timurermolenko2013 3 жыл бұрын
Its modeled exactly after it. In the end, who financed communist insurgents at first place? Though China wasn't grateful, and in 2 decades they turned their bayonets towards the Soviets.
@djazayri213
@djazayri213 3 жыл бұрын
@@timurermolenko2013 Well, they disagreed with Khrushchev about the whole de-Stalinization process like Albania but you already know. It’s not really like they were not grateful.
@megaera2988
@megaera2988 3 жыл бұрын
@@timurermolenko2013 Actually you are wrong. Chinese people and Chinese government are always grateful for the help that soviet union have been provided, in our social culture we always know that And respect that. However what we don’t respect is one Soviet union threat to nuclear bomb North East China in 1960, That it is the term new point of the relationship between China and SU in history. We don’t except any form of Hegemony and bully, However it is not mean We Chinese forgot all the help that’s the way Junyan wants to give it to us, in our heart the memory and friendship between China and the civil union are still very dear. Nowadays China still follow the teaching of Marxism and Lenin to bring the social worker fair to every single individual as a group as a whole.
@megaera2988
@megaera2988 3 жыл бұрын
@@djazayri213 indeed krushchev and Gorbachev are not considered as great leader by Chinese, They are the reason for the fallen of Soviet Union
@tonyabhishek4892
@tonyabhishek4892 3 жыл бұрын
@@megaera2988 What's Chinese masses view on Stalin.Do they see him as a great architect of communism or as a tyrranical dictator.
@ashish94821
@ashish94821 2 жыл бұрын
Its facinating. I always wanted to know how the party works. Awesome insight.
@TK-my7jg
@TK-my7jg 3 жыл бұрын
You lost the key information: you said 6.6% of Chinese manland ppl are CPC members But you forgot to mention that nearly 90% of Chinese young ppl are Young Pioneers(YP) or Communist Youth League(CYL) members That means most Chinese mainland ppl are IN the CPC ,not against the CPC It's vert different when you take different sides. (Only 9.1% people in China has no family relationship with CPC ) May be not the CPC control China, maybe CPC is really the majority of China.
@johnboz8087
@johnboz8087 3 жыл бұрын
Despite being a chinese state media, they actually describe China's system pretty well.
@andy.8444
@andy.8444 3 жыл бұрын
they're not state media. SCMP is based in Hong Kong.
@johnboz8087
@johnboz8087 3 жыл бұрын
@@andy.8444 Hong Kong is China?
@Kabir911
@Kabir911 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnboz8087 soon its Part of the mainland ))))
@johnboz8087
@johnboz8087 3 жыл бұрын
@@chaitrains-b9h It is owned by Ali Baba. Ali Baba is connected to Jack Ma, another communist. Technically it is influenced by Mainland China Government.
@andy.8444
@andy.8444 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnboz8087 Jack Ma sure is communist, that‘s why the Ant IPO was halted.
@shanghainewbison7687
@shanghainewbison7687 3 жыл бұрын
Ordinary people don't care who is in charge. We want food on the table, roof over our head, electricity / clean water, plenty of jobs, and education.
@dickyarya8204
@dickyarya8204 3 жыл бұрын
At the cost of freedom and free will?
@marcelochang1406
@marcelochang1406 3 жыл бұрын
@@dickyarya8204 in practice, a Chinese person is as free as any ordinary citizen of an underdeveloped "democratic" country ...
@nynx2504
@nynx2504 3 жыл бұрын
@@dickyarya8204 people outside of china make it such a big deal, but the reality is that chinese people really just don't care. They just get on with their lives.
@return0jz878
@return0jz878 3 жыл бұрын
@@dickyarya8204 Freedom and free will in doing what?
@shanghainewbison7687
@shanghainewbison7687 3 жыл бұрын
@@dickyarya8204 you mean you have the freedom and will to choose trump as your president, pelosi as your madam speaker, McConnell as your senate majority leader? Give me a break. Does your vote really matter at all? Crooked politicians only knock on your doors once every four years. If you live in deep red or deep blue states, they don’t even bother, because you vote means nothing to trump or biden.
@mythbusterUSA
@mythbusterUSA 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong title. More appropriate title is "how mafia works"
@铠豆豆
@铠豆豆 3 жыл бұрын
if CCP is mafia, Biden's party is mafia boss,bomb everywhere and war ship travel everywhere he want
@铠豆豆
@铠豆豆 3 жыл бұрын
is there a country without US can make Taiwan people eat poisoned pig meat and dare not say a bad word about them,US ,mafia boss,earth dominater
@铠豆豆
@铠豆豆 3 жыл бұрын
a decent country shouldn't harm other people
@lilwilly5265
@lilwilly5265 3 жыл бұрын
@@铠豆豆 tiananmen square remember that
@lilwilly5265
@lilwilly5265 3 жыл бұрын
@@铠豆豆 what do you have to say about the chinese trying to take over hong kong for no reason?
@entropicpedro
@entropicpedro 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus he really does look like winnie the pooh
@semiramisubw4864
@semiramisubw4864 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong. China was ruled basically since the beginning of the time by 1 ruler, emporers or commy party leadership, doesnt make a huge difference. But there is one, if the mayority of people isnt happy they can replace their actualy leader from the CCP.
@eyaswoo1483
@eyaswoo1483 3 жыл бұрын
Last week I took my kids to off-time school, some local community workers asked me if I live in the community. They said it's time for this year's election and asked me to stay for a while to learn the different candidates and their main roles and plans for the community in the next term. I was in a hurry to get rid of kids, so I chose one randomly who looked pretty (honorsly they were all old aunties or uncles, just chose one looked slightly nicer). Because I know, anyone of them, will follow the plans made by upper level leaders, which also follow their upper levels. In such kind of political structure, and I am confident with the central government and the party. So anyone is OK.
@ssj4500
@ssj4500 2 жыл бұрын
You like communism?
@yuihanasaka1076
@yuihanasaka1076 2 жыл бұрын
@@ssj4500 i like communism
@yuluoxianjun
@yuluoxianjun 2 жыл бұрын
@@ssj4500 there is no communism now,only socialist
@kaspervestergaard2383
@kaspervestergaard2383 2 жыл бұрын
+1000 social points.
@404enderman3
@404enderman3 2 жыл бұрын
@@ssj4500 so why did you ask this?is this weird?
@emilchen9866
@emilchen9866 3 жыл бұрын
Selected not elected
@curiosity-educationalchann1041
@curiosity-educationalchann1041 3 жыл бұрын
This much alike with muslim rashidun caliphate system...the caliph selected among notable figures n leaders with meeting
@nabilahmadsiddiqui345
@nabilahmadsiddiqui345 3 жыл бұрын
@@curiosity-educationalchann1041 That Caliphate existed 700 years ago. Hardly the standard for a state in the 21st Century.
@eggs1580
@eggs1580 3 жыл бұрын
chinese people are living happily while u guys are fighting on here for what lol.
@kitaruchin7129
@kitaruchin7129 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@kele8559
@kele8559 3 жыл бұрын
What?
@brantxue5217
@brantxue5217 3 жыл бұрын
@@kele8559 There are 0.12 billion chinese people holding passport in 2020 and Chinese government send tens of thousands of students and experts every years. So we know what is your happy life in a “higher level” . Ok?
@pinguinocomentador9743
@pinguinocomentador9743 3 жыл бұрын
@@kele8559 the west is happy when no white people live in poverty... You are evil
@Dubs22005
@Dubs22005 3 жыл бұрын
w/c Chinese people?
@chitru1983
@chitru1983 3 жыл бұрын
Watch Eric Li's TED talk A Tale of Two Political Systems after this. 👀
@remy7663
@remy7663 3 жыл бұрын
You should watch this then kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpmchXqjbrxpfLs
@remy7663
@remy7663 3 жыл бұрын
^it's the counter to Eric Li's arguments, gotta listen to both sides of the story
@xingw9358
@xingw9358 3 жыл бұрын
This one is working for cult Falubkong, and what his talking shows he know nothing about China and the
@24sec2go
@24sec2go 3 жыл бұрын
@@remy7663 great source.... Better get your fact or source on 9gag or Reddit.
@ethanjiang8766
@ethanjiang8766 3 жыл бұрын
@@remy7663 Haha, you really believe this guy? This channel is funded by FaLunGong, here is a review from an american. Just check the comment section, btw, this chanel is not a pro China channel. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2nXoa2dlr-ssMk&ab_channel=RogueRocket
@macnosmutano4849
@macnosmutano4849 3 жыл бұрын
A really informative video. Thank you.
@syue6544
@syue6544 2 ай бұрын
I lived in Canada for 4 years, England for 4 years, 18 years in China. I enjoy all of them, so why to provoke controversy. Instead why not let us work coherently for a mutual better future?
@justinlei7771
@justinlei7771 3 жыл бұрын
Overall, seems like a meritocracy since every member of government has been selected (recently at least) from a very educated group of youth via testing (GaoKao etc...). It could be more efficient if it allowed freedom of speech so that the people could isolate problems/issues that they are encountering so the CCP knows what to focus on. At least, that's my idea.
@default2591
@default2591 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with 'free speech' is that it's not really compatible with Meritocracy. The common people tend to prefer sweet mouthed candidates rather than a real technical expert, if you try to rally a Chinese technocrat and an American politician in a fair election the Chinese technocrat would lose in a landslide cause in open politics the one with most promise during campaign is the one who win. China is still far from the likes of Norway or Sweden which has a woke population who elect technocrats instead of politicians in regular basis. China just didn't want to risk spawning another Hong Xiuquan.
@oscarchute6040
@oscarchute6040 2 жыл бұрын
This is similar during the dynastic time in Ancient China. When candidates had to take difficult Confucian examination before being able to work in the government. This is a classic case of a meritocratic system whereby the brightest and the ablest work in the government. Jack Ma, Jacqui Chan, Ren Zengfei of Huawei, and Pony Ma of Ten Cent are all members of the CCP. They are already rich before joining the CCP.
@streetfucker911
@streetfucker911 3 жыл бұрын
the music is so calming
@Toolgdskli
@Toolgdskli 3 жыл бұрын
Simply put, they are a glorified mafia.
@nonyabizness997
@nonyabizness997 3 жыл бұрын
Supported by 90%+ of the Chinese citizens per Harvard University Ash Centre Study that took 10 years to complete! Paper on Ash Centre website. So no absolutely not what your brainwashed CCP-phobic self think but who's to stop you!
@nonyabizness997
@nonyabizness997 3 жыл бұрын
@Argon Engine No no no. You need to go to Costs of War study page at Brown University. The latest direct human life costs of the wars waged by the US worldwide for the past 20 years alone is by the study about 900,000. This does not include indirect losses of human lives and displacements of millions of refugees. Don't confuse the brazen real rampant human rights violations of the United States imperialist armies worldwide with fake news war consent against China engineered by the west please. There's no institutionalised racism in China like in the US either - African American males are disproportionately incarcerated in the US, they face being shot in the US streets by both police and white supremacistd with impunity. The state of human rights situation in the US is appalling and absolutely no such parallels in China.
@rikadomez8201
@rikadomez8201 3 жыл бұрын
The last minute of the video is kinda out of topic. I was initially impressed with the content in the first 3 minutes.
@user-mhgu6om9mj2t
@user-mhgu6om9mj2t 3 жыл бұрын
@TAN SOONG WEI Moe they are smarter than you and your people. What have you accomplished? Right move on troll
@user-mhgu6om9mj2t
@user-mhgu6om9mj2t 3 жыл бұрын
Well Rikadomez. Too bad it was over your head.
@rikadomez8201
@rikadomez8201 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-mhgu6om9mj2t are you fighting for democracy now or what?
@moist3963
@moist3963 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-mhgu6om9mj2t cringe
@Neuvari
@Neuvari 3 жыл бұрын
@TAN SOONG WEI Moe wow, but i thought your mother is a pig
@----xo2bm
@----xo2bm 3 жыл бұрын
great country, hope they make it
@jovanmalic9259
@jovanmalic9259 3 жыл бұрын
-What's the difference between China's and USA's political system? -In the US people think they actually choose something. 🤦😂😂
@FATHOLLYWOODB123
@FATHOLLYWOODB123 3 жыл бұрын
We choose our president every 4 years 😂 The Chinese don;t even get to think about choosing there leader😂
@supercat1969
@supercat1969 3 жыл бұрын
@@FATHOLLYWOODB123 nono, half Americans chose A while the rest chose B, how could you say the results satisfy the MAJOR demand?
@supercat1969
@supercat1969 3 жыл бұрын
@@FATHOLLYWOODB123 and if there are ALWAYS HALF of Americans who could not get what they want, how could you say it is democratic? and if you think ignoring those HALF people's demands is normal, then what's the meaning of election??
@supercat1969
@supercat1969 3 жыл бұрын
@@FATHOLLYWOODB123 and you get to know your president and think about choose your leader at the cost of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, or else you could not see him/her on TV or in live SO FREQUENTLY. why dont you want these $$$$$$$ go to somewhere else? TBH i dont care what president i may have AS LONG AS my life dont go down.
@mega_Boi2004
@mega_Boi2004 3 жыл бұрын
But the problem with the us election is that their always divided
@neurofiedyamato8763
@neurofiedyamato8763 3 жыл бұрын
This is actually a surprisingly unbiased breakdown of the CCP's political system.
@Nathan-jh1ho
@Nathan-jh1ho 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is very unbiased, not that I think you need to be unbiased toward the CCP
@tempejkl
@tempejkl 10 ай бұрын
Yes because it is Chinese but the channel is English language. The channel is dedicated to English audiences so they have to take a balanced approach due to all the lies about China in western world.
@Alex-ub6te
@Alex-ub6te 3 жыл бұрын
I call the West external pluralism, in which different political parties compete externally; I call China internal pluralism, in which we have only one political subject, but it is open, in which different interest groups can participate, negotiate and find their own space.--Zheng Yongnian
@floppingtuna2022
@floppingtuna2022 3 жыл бұрын
@Sc0ut Op the gov is made up with different cliques that are secretaries of the different areas of China basically. The gov is kinda complicated but typically the richer areas have more influential cliques. They talk with each other and bills are passed from lower to the top all the time, constantly being reviewed. Influential cliques have more weight in decision making
@Буянзул
@Буянзул 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't youtube banned in China? Tell us that next time when you don't have to use a VPN to lick winnie's boots.
@mikicerise6250
@mikicerise6250 3 жыл бұрын
China's internal pluralism all happens inside Xi's head. 😂
@寒风青枝
@寒风青枝 3 жыл бұрын
@@Буянзул 但我们就是可以上,你气不气?
@lava7891
@lava7891 Жыл бұрын
This video answered my question. Thanks!
@FATHOLLYWOODB123
@FATHOLLYWOODB123 3 жыл бұрын
Fortunately the opposition within the party is allowed to exists these days, the USSR under Stalin and China under Mao allowed no opposition and purged there opposition, creating a cult of personality, the vanguard party system developed by Lenin had some flaws. Nonetheless Marx realized that communism would never succeed in a sea of capitalism, so the remaining "communist" countries have embraced a mixed economic model, most recently Cuba in 2019. EDIT: The Chinese Communist Party under Xi Jinping has become once again, not friendly to opposition, and Xi has developed a cult of personality once again, the CCP has become a rubber stamp for the Xi Jinping, and under his direction removed term limits on leadership, allowing Xi Jinping to rule for life.
@edwinvargas7969
@edwinvargas7969 3 жыл бұрын
“Opposition” basically comes down to communism vs capitalism. There are nuances under communism, but outside of that would simply be capitalist ideology. In my opinion, capitalism is antiquated and an evil system that only serves the rich and elite.
@browncony3897
@browncony3897 3 жыл бұрын
Surely no one is greater than Winnie. He is the greatest person in the entire world. No one can be compared to Winnie. Even birds sing praises of him. Winnie surpasses that cat in every possible ways .. everyone loves Winnie ... who don’t?
@radiumdude
@radiumdude 3 жыл бұрын
Legend has it: Winnie descended from the heavens in a golden egg directly to Badaling Mountain, from where he rode on a red glowing communist unicorn directly to the great hall of the people.
@superavel
@superavel 10 ай бұрын
lol. Would be a funny joke except I bet you don't know what the Chinese don't actually agree with Xilter about.
@freemanzhang2764
@freemanzhang2764 3 жыл бұрын
Every political system has its advantages and disadvantages. But no Matter what kind of system the country applies, it must firstly to ensure the living condition of citizens, and keep improving it. I will not leverage any official number, but share some basic facts in my family. Maybe most of you only believe your system is the best. But i believe ours are most suitable to us. 1) my mom now is retired, government pay her 4,000+ RMB per month as retirement salary. But her salary in 1980 was 40RMB per month. 2) if my mom go to hospital, government will support 80%+ of the expenses. 3) my working city is 1,000+ km away from my hometown. In 2000, if i traveled back to hometown, it spent more than 17 hours by train. Now, it costs only 5 hours. 4)before 2005, in some cities, we didn't walk on the street after 10pm, for safety concern. But now, you can walk out any time. Nobody worry about safety. 5) many of my friends shared their experience of being stolen when traveling in cities like Rome, Paris, Chicago etc. But i have never heard any friends was stolen in China major cities.
@AbsoluteZero6714
@AbsoluteZero6714 3 жыл бұрын
Asia in general is safer than the West, regardless of the particular country’s political system. I don’t know if it’s because of the more “mild” cultural genetics in certain regards, but I’m sure China’s relative safety in many areas has nothing to do with whether it’s ruled by a dictatorship or whether it becomes a liberal democracy.
@alicege4683
@alicege4683 2 жыл бұрын
@@AbsoluteZero6714 it used to have more pick pockets, but I think it's because it's now a cashless society so there's nothing to steal. More online scams these days.
@tiggeesong
@tiggeesong 3 жыл бұрын
I'm reading the comments to see what the hilarious radicals have to say about it.
@shagadelic3000
@shagadelic3000 3 жыл бұрын
People who oppose slavery are radicals now?
@ethanlin3196
@ethanlin3196 3 жыл бұрын
@shagadelic3000 -_-
@Azanerd
@Azanerd 3 жыл бұрын
@@shagadelic3000 Yup. Well, I should clarify to mean that the radicals do oppose slavery, and that causes general confusion and misunderstanding.
@bl4d3runn3rX
@bl4d3runn3rX 3 жыл бұрын
If there are radicals here, they must have broke the chinese law and must go to prison ;)
@Azanerd
@Azanerd 3 жыл бұрын
@@bl4d3runn3rX Dude. No.
@_The_stranger_
@_The_stranger_ 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like indian govt. Is trying to create exact same politcs nowadays
@gofar5185
@gofar5185 3 жыл бұрын
thank you scmp media for sharing...
@ylu7450
@ylu7450 3 жыл бұрын
If CCP and Chinese government really operated like what this SCMP report described, the few Chinese leaders would be the supermen to bring the country to be #2 economy in the world. Based in China, SCMP should have done a better job to dig deep and better explain how the CCP and country operate. If SCMP can't do this, then somebody else already has done or you. His name is Eric Li.
@user-cp1fu7ef6g
@user-cp1fu7ef6g 3 жыл бұрын
How democratic is your government? China: yes
@AbsoluteZero6714
@AbsoluteZero6714 3 жыл бұрын
China: Democratic enough, now shut up before we make you disappear.
@freakmedic
@freakmedic 3 жыл бұрын
@@AbsoluteZero6714 how democratic where talking about a democratic to a degree of communism or a democratic degree of dictatorship???
@kobemop
@kobemop 3 жыл бұрын
western countries arent that democratic and free when you think about it
@AbsoluteZero6714
@AbsoluteZero6714 3 жыл бұрын
@@kobemop Yes I agree with you but in this case we’re really just comparing one already rotten apple with another apple that’s more rotten in certain parts. Instead of making these comparisons I believe ideally we should strive towards combating excessive government authority no matter where we are. I believe as things currently are, even many Western governments are too powerful for so-called “democracies.” So yeah if you really ask me, it’s about fighting pervasive authority in general, I criticize the West a lot as well lol.
@serenityssolace
@serenityssolace 3 жыл бұрын
This video was approved by the CCP
@casecao8412
@casecao8412 3 жыл бұрын
It really wasn't though
@EscobarFurious
@EscobarFurious 3 жыл бұрын
Spent about 3 weeks (3 meeting days per week) discussing this in my Comparative Politics class a few semesters ago lol.
@underhorse5367
@underhorse5367 3 жыл бұрын
Which university are you in, pretty interested on programs about international politics
@biochemwang2421
@biochemwang2421 3 жыл бұрын
I am interested to know about your discussion.
@jasonstone7431
@jasonstone7431 3 жыл бұрын
Doctor: you need to take these pills. Or... Patient: No, let's ask my fellows' opinions firstly. Doctor: I've already checked your condition...As I said...You better follow my prescription. Patient: You're such kind of dictator, I will never submit to your manipulation. Doctor: ..........
@alexc6032
@alexc6032 3 жыл бұрын
Freedom of speech = freedom of disinformation and radicalization.
@krish4134
@krish4134 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexc6032 Free speech doesn't necessarily mean that, Free speech means the right to Criticize the government's wrongdoings and making jokes at the government and not get arrested or censored. If a government can't take a joke than that's their problem not the problem of the people
@omnomnom5359
@omnomnom5359 3 жыл бұрын
@@krish4134 that’s the thing, when a person criticizes the government, other people join in. It’s not a bad thing to criticizing, but it gives your enemies opportunities to sway ur population in their favor. That is the cost of freedom of speech
@wheresmyeyebrow1608
@wheresmyeyebrow1608 3 жыл бұрын
@@omnomnom5359 And too bad to that
@WilL-DaNG
@WilL-DaNG 3 жыл бұрын
Atleast the fear of being kidnapped and disappears is not as high elsewhere
@svetlinandreev511
@svetlinandreev511 3 жыл бұрын
"Arise, you who refuse to be slaves!..."
@cat3784
@cat3784 3 жыл бұрын
in qing dynasty, feudalism
@taoliu3949
@taoliu3949 3 жыл бұрын
@@cat3784 That song was written during WWII and had nothing to do with the Qing......
@koruto721
@koruto721 3 жыл бұрын
This was actually surprisingly unbiased
@julianpflugmann
@julianpflugmann 3 жыл бұрын
Nah...
@amihart9269
@amihart9269 3 жыл бұрын
"only bottom-up in theory" "rubber stamp congress" not exactly unbiased, they are literally giving their opinions rather than just describing the facts
@Azanerd
@Azanerd 3 жыл бұрын
@@amihart9269 Eh... They tried to stay as apolitical as possible.
@amihart9269
@amihart9269 3 жыл бұрын
@@Azanerd yeah sure 😂
@什麽-r8y
@什麽-r8y Жыл бұрын
​​@@amihart9269楼主是在讽刺吗😂
@stacykrett
@stacykrett 3 жыл бұрын
Less like a pyramid, more like an inverted thumb tack.
@joei8236
@joei8236 3 жыл бұрын
national congress consist of 2300 members, can not exceed 3000, the elected seats based on the ratio of the locational population to ensure that all regions, all ethnic groups, and all community have an appropriate number of representatives for distribution. the politburos have the power to decide all major issues, set policies and promote changes, there are currently 25 members. The standing committee are the core power holder which point the direction of the country. There are currently 7 members, which are all national leader, to be elected on to this position, you’d have to be a premier of one or more major China provinces, (governing 100million people). China’s politics works by selective and electoral. Contradictory many would think that China have no democracy. But the system selects leaders that leads the country forward and have experience as a political leader, without interference by corporations and money. From what I see, it’s working well for them. What we need to worry is our own democracy, whether if it’s still can be called democracy. Where you have these big corporates investing tons of money used to advertise the Candidates. Where only two are selected from two different party, both ended up being awful choices, who is ignorant and no political experience and we have no choices to wait 4 years and just having the opposite party destorys what previous party have accomplished. 🤷‍♂️
@nonyabizness997
@nonyabizness997 3 жыл бұрын
You're making the China-hater simpletons' heads hurt!! Too many nuances for them - no universal suffrage? Evil authoritarianism!! Simple and easy, black and white you see!
@yuluoxianjun
@yuluoxianjun 2 жыл бұрын
IQ5000
@NishantKumar-li8to
@NishantKumar-li8to 3 жыл бұрын
Indian congress ruled India for more than 70 years, it was one party rule too!
@mangoandcum
@mangoandcum 3 жыл бұрын
No...You don't know about Indian politics. Indian democracy is so strong that it allowed an illiterate, tea seller to become prime minister. Opposition parties became ruling parties ruling the country for many years forcing Indira Gandhi sit in the opposition. Exodus of Kashmiri Pandits happened while Congress was in the opposition.
@cat3784
@cat3784 3 жыл бұрын
@@mangoandcum bad idea allow illiterate to control gov
@Abhisheism
@Abhisheism 3 жыл бұрын
@@cat3784 but if the people want so be it nobody should tell anybody what to do. I disagree with Mr. Modi and many of his policies and many of his acts but if people want him so be it. I being a member of opposition party will convince people to change but a person rising from selling tea on a station to lead my country is our strength anyone able to convince people shall get power out of the will of people no matter his political, educational or social background.
@Abhisheism
@Abhisheism 3 жыл бұрын
@@cat3784 sometimes who suffered understand pain of who is suffering.
@cat3784
@cat3784 3 жыл бұрын
meritocracy is better than democracy
@darrentheodore9084
@darrentheodore9084 3 жыл бұрын
why people always tried to justified what their state do wrong by comparing to other countries, thinking that "hey other countries can do something bad, that means if i do it less badly it will be totally fine"
@moshiKarma
@moshiKarma Жыл бұрын
They are saying these things outside the China, not in China
@seeclipse6788
@seeclipse6788 3 жыл бұрын
Lol isnt this channel owned by Jack Ma ?
@madmanmadlad2876
@madmanmadlad2876 3 жыл бұрын
That's why he's disappeared
@PSX247
@PSX247 3 жыл бұрын
Alibaba acquired it from Rubert Murdoch but the agency still operates mainly with western narrative journalism.
@Neuvari
@Neuvari 3 жыл бұрын
@@madmanmadlad2876 isnt he resurfaced in some small event?
@heehaahoohoo
@heehaahoohoo 3 жыл бұрын
@@madmanmadlad2876 your brain is disappeared?
@spiritualfoxplays-tryhardp2284
@spiritualfoxplays-tryhardp2284 3 жыл бұрын
Westerners be criticising the Chinese system but they are currently doing the worst so far 😂 oh the irony
@sdf4678
@sdf4678 3 жыл бұрын
@tido almond native Americans
@ninjapirate123
@ninjapirate123 14 сағат бұрын
Something like this shouldn't have even existed
@harmanbuttar2897
@harmanbuttar2897 3 жыл бұрын
Well considering how successful China has been in dominating the world. It's clear that their system, although dystopian, is clearly working for the most part
@ReportsOnChina
@ReportsOnChina 3 жыл бұрын
“Dystopian” is a matter of opinion. For me, Western “democracy” has become dystopian.
@floppingtuna2022
@floppingtuna2022 3 жыл бұрын
@@ReportsOnChina it's all relative indeed
@floppingtuna2022
@floppingtuna2022 3 жыл бұрын
Considering how Mao and communism were all about building an utopia, this is the true reality of life
@reis1185
@reis1185 3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile at UK politics: 🤡
@VPCh.
@VPCh. 3 жыл бұрын
General Secretary is a funny way to say dictator
@Mike-fn4ti
@Mike-fn4ti 3 жыл бұрын
Xi Pooh is not a dictator, he just have the biggest power among the 7 leaders (politburo)
@floppingtuna2022
@floppingtuna2022 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mike-fn4ti the 7 leaders got basically appointed by him to avoid a split in power, hence the nickname of emperor by mainland chinese
@lambo425
@lambo425 3 жыл бұрын
Approved by Winnie the Pooh 🐻🍯
@aliyanimran3094
@aliyanimran3094 3 жыл бұрын
*enemy spotted*
@adrianfirmansyah15
@adrianfirmansyah15 3 жыл бұрын
CCP want you location
@BENZENE6K
@BENZENE6K 3 жыл бұрын
Winnie is cute. Xi is evil.
@835_subham9
@835_subham9 3 жыл бұрын
"Love for China equates love for the Communist Party", that goes right!
@abcdef12345678910ify
@abcdef12345678910ify 3 жыл бұрын
One country one voice, one party one voice.
@nicoservin2870
@nicoservin2870 3 жыл бұрын
If there is a video about democracy we know that it doesn't work like that in reality. Same with this, you could say this is how it works but we know it's not true.
@joeroganpodfantasy42
@joeroganpodfantasy42 2 жыл бұрын
People should understand one thing there is rivalry so one party or multi party doesn't really matter people are competitive in nature , there are countries with many parties and no matter who wins politics stays the same and there are countries with 1 party where the politics changes direction after a new election.
@Mohammed-hj6kg
@Mohammed-hj6kg Жыл бұрын
You should understand one thing that "CAGE is CAGE even if Diamonds & Gold is embodied in its making" Sooner or later Prisoners bound to be suffocated.
@samedifference5504
@samedifference5504 3 жыл бұрын
When Chinese people learn about the government, do they also learn what is real and what is a "formality".
@happywarrior736
@happywarrior736 3 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day we will all get what we deserve
@aunco
@aunco 3 жыл бұрын
Me: 我的孩子学习不好。(My kid doesn't do well in study.) CCP: You're a dead man as you have blasphemed against the General Secretary.
@root8199
@root8199 3 жыл бұрын
You are wrong.
@faust9741
@faust9741 3 жыл бұрын
Shhh
@gauravyadav2661
@gauravyadav2661 3 жыл бұрын
Chinese people can be without ccp, they are intelligent, hardworking. Respects.
@-lbh779
@-lbh779 3 жыл бұрын
Guess the U.S capitalists who control elites can give up their military and politicians also
@gauravyadav2661
@gauravyadav2661 3 жыл бұрын
@@-lbh779 Tiananmen Square????
@-lbh779
@-lbh779 3 жыл бұрын
@@gauravyadav2661 tell me, I’m from Beijing. what do you even know about it
@scylzgt4433
@scylzgt4433 3 жыл бұрын
@@-lbh779 we feel bad for yoy
@brucet4115
@brucet4115 3 жыл бұрын
抓了你们老板你们就这么急😅
@linfenghuang2152
@linfenghuang2152 3 жыл бұрын
共产党干的好,希望挂在路灯上 人民万岁
@johnnytocino9313
@johnnytocino9313 3 жыл бұрын
Does the standing committee ever sit down?
@shubhanshusingh335
@shubhanshusingh335 3 жыл бұрын
No. That's why they r standing committee
@mitchellfunk6941
@mitchellfunk6941 2 жыл бұрын
For anyone wondering what the music is, Timeless by Neutrin05.
@TheBikagyura
@TheBikagyura 2 жыл бұрын
You're a saint
@watamesshepherdjesuschrist6792
@watamesshepherdjesuschrist6792 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine going there and scream "Taiwan is a country! "
@mrahshanullah8031
@mrahshanullah8031 3 жыл бұрын
It's not a country before, it's part of a china before..
@夏小钧
@夏小钧 3 жыл бұрын
maybe you mean roc,Republic Of China,which lose the civil war and retreated to taiwan
@mrahshanullah8031
@mrahshanullah8031 3 жыл бұрын
@@夏小钧 ouhh republic of china.. so they changed that to taiwan?
@nonyabizness997
@nonyabizness997 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine going to Buckingham Palace in London or the Imperial Palace in Tokyo and scream, "Down with the Monarchy!" You'll get people expressing disgusts at you and calling police to report behaviours that disturb social cohesion on you. That's how the people's collective sentiment /breaking taboos works. And if you want to push the boundaries don't moan about the consequences you'll suffer!
@spider6660
@spider6660 2 жыл бұрын
They're gonna do anything. Until it disrupts the public.
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