How Donald Trump & The Right's Misinformation Machine is Winning Politics Online

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@ericdane7769
@ericdane7769 3 ай бұрын
It used to be difficult to start a cult. You had to isolate people, socially and physically, to get access into their brains. People living online 24/7 is like a X-mas gift for evil manipulators.
@luv2charlie
@luv2charlie 3 ай бұрын
Or just regular manipulators😅😅
@dolliscrawford280
@dolliscrawford280 3 ай бұрын
Faux news successfully isolated people socially and physically when it was all they would watch and others stayed away from them because of what they were parroting.
@MichealHallowell
@MichealHallowell 3 ай бұрын
​@@luv2charlie What qualifies as non-evil manipulation?
@terryzanger7152
@terryzanger7152 3 ай бұрын
Charles Manson would be a Govener now
@veneroso3337
@veneroso3337 3 ай бұрын
Good idea let's start a cult.
@marablemorgan8292
@marablemorgan8292 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, Jon. Keep pushing the truth! 💙💙💙💙💙
@JohnSmith-wg7yf
@JohnSmith-wg7yf 3 ай бұрын
:D Truth is not truth.. Pod Save America, is lying.
@lucyfrost6175
@lucyfrost6175 3 ай бұрын
I'm a precinct chair struggling to simply communicate with people in my area. This resonates with me: “We are in a decentralized communications environment where, yes you care about trying to influence what the newspapers and TV networks are saying and your paid advertising is still a thing. But you need to play in a world where word of mouth and rumor and person to person communication and homemade messaging are going to be a way of reaching people. “
@FieldBlaser
@FieldBlaser 3 ай бұрын
People are lost. Trump is the Antichrist. Buckle up.
@alexisarouge
@alexisarouge 3 ай бұрын
"We're going to write some MEAN tweets," said Don Jr. smiling gleefully sitting next to trump while waiting for verdict. I thought this was the most honest thing he's ever said.
@FieldBlaser
@FieldBlaser 3 ай бұрын
And they call democrats evil. America will get what it deserves. And it’s unfortunately not looking good.
@Dot-u4m
@Dot-u4m 3 ай бұрын
I think Biden Campaign has stepped up on online response and ads. I love the new ads!
@tylerhackner9731
@tylerhackner9731 3 ай бұрын
We can’t let it win elections
@MJMcKenzie322
@MJMcKenzie322 3 ай бұрын
“By any means necessary,” right?
@FieldBlaser
@FieldBlaser 3 ай бұрын
MJ unlike republicans not by any means necessary fool.
@NikosZaidGomez
@NikosZaidGomez 3 ай бұрын
@@MJMcKenzie322 Okay, insurrectionist.
@NikosZaidGomez
@NikosZaidGomez 3 ай бұрын
Don't let this click bait BS title get you. They aren't "winning" politics, any more than the kid you are playing rock paper scissors with is winning when they keep screaming that rock beats paper. Reality is reality. And the facts are that the right wing ecosystem is by it's nature self-cannibalizing. It's loud, obnoxious, toxic, all of which add up to harming it's own consumers. Couple that with the fact that they are the minority already, and they are losing.
@MJMcKenzie322
@MJMcKenzie322 3 ай бұрын
@@NikosZaidGomez is that what you call anyone who disagrees with you? Just saying, this guy seems to support the “end justifies the means” approach of getting rid of Donald Trump. I thought you thought you were better than that, is all.
@annemitchell5302
@annemitchell5302 3 ай бұрын
Weird comment: Could you move that bird statue? It looks like the bird is sitting on the guest's head. Thanks.
@RunnerLogan
@RunnerLogan 3 ай бұрын
What an insightful guest. Lot of good behind the curtain information.
@drumcircler
@drumcircler 3 ай бұрын
PROPAGANDA WORKS! Right wing ownership of the message propels their greed.
@debrarymer
@debrarymer 3 ай бұрын
Very informative interview. I think also the old sleepy joe thing has to do with how American (men in particular) view strength as a function of masculinity thus the trait is commonly identified with brute force rather than the female or genderless strength identified by resilience and character. We need to show that Biden is a better kind of strong.
@jennac5451
@jennac5451 3 ай бұрын
Here's a thought. Don't let ourselves be gaslit.
@luv2charlie
@luv2charlie 3 ай бұрын
So your joining the party of personal responsibility? That's not how psychology works.
@GueranJones-x7h
@GueranJones-x7h 3 ай бұрын
It was in my life time that woman were able to be on the news. Remember "woman's liberation movement?" Not too long after that asian people were on the networks. We nearly had a woman president. America must live up to its ideals. It is possible. Put donald trump and his maga people in our rear view mirror. They want autocracy. We want freedom.
@akinyiomer4589
@akinyiomer4589 3 ай бұрын
That's a great and understandable sentiment to have, but it's not workable. As this episode discusses, there are people trapped in low or misinformation silos who LOVE being in their bubble. They *welcome* being misinformed because that *is* real and accurate information to them, even if it isn't based in reality as it validates how they see & experience the world. People also find their way into those silos because they can offer a strong sense of community, community bonding opportunities for struggle & triumph.
@jennac5451
@jennac5451 3 ай бұрын
​@@akinyiomer4589 I know. I used to be an alt right reactionary, 20 years ago when I was a teenager.
@jennac5451
@jennac5451 3 ай бұрын
​@@luv2charlie Why single me out? I didn't say anything about political parties, but while we're at it, I eschew the concept, and don't believe there exists such a thing as a party of personal responsibility.
@joancooney7724
@joancooney7724 3 ай бұрын
Trump has No Shame, wake up America
@FieldBlaser
@FieldBlaser 3 ай бұрын
They can’t wake up when fox has them brainwashed/permanently asleep. . The US will get what it deserves.
@GueranJones-x7h
@GueranJones-x7h 3 ай бұрын
yes in some families There are felons. To forget what a felon will do to a family are words I can't describe.
@geire4531
@geire4531 3 ай бұрын
There MUST be a wake-up among the voters that are not lost in MAGA. There should be more of non MAGA in this country. If not, it doesn’t matter. That means Americans want a fascist country 😢😢😢. I just can’t believe that. I also want a more aggressive democratic leadership. They have to get the truth out where it’s needed
@AprY-xz9ze
@AprY-xz9ze 3 ай бұрын
Trump and his propagandist have no shame. They can lie to us with straight face
@Photologistic
@Photologistic 3 ай бұрын
Yes, but neither do any uniparty selected candidates. RFK JR 2024.
@dorothea_walland
@dorothea_walland 3 ай бұрын
since i read that comment last time, i cannot unsee the head-bird 😂
@arcticgoddess
@arcticgoddess 3 ай бұрын
Oh, I complained in a bunch of Pod Save the World comment sections as it sat perfectly perched on top of Ben Rhodes dome week after week, but...nothing.
@lizzyschenk8878
@lizzyschenk8878 3 ай бұрын
Omg… the head-bird is driving me nuts 😂😂😂
@arcticgoddess
@arcticgoddess 3 ай бұрын
@@lizzyschenk8878 😂😂😂
@alexisarouge
@alexisarouge 3 ай бұрын
Thanks :) Now I can't unsee it.
@luv2charlie
@luv2charlie 3 ай бұрын
So glad I'm not alone! I think the staff are messing with us!
@davidyemm7910
@davidyemm7910 3 ай бұрын
Where is the discussion about the ban of TikTok and the reason for it, and Trump suddenly using that very platform for his campaign?
@sstarkey1695
@sstarkey1695 3 ай бұрын
Throw a little fear in the mix (by way of Congressional BS) and social media crazies will rush to that platform. Create a following or blow smoke to remove your opposition?
@GueranJones-x7h
@GueranJones-x7h 3 ай бұрын
Remember Trump is a felon a con man. He will sell the whole country out for a buck.
@yesitschelle
@yesitschelle 3 ай бұрын
I think that's a separate conversation. People talked about it when the law passed and Trump joined. Think of it like a camera showing a landscape or a single tree. This conversation is the landscape.
@NikosZaidGomez
@NikosZaidGomez 3 ай бұрын
Who cares? China can boost Trump all it wants. Trump is making the same mistake he made in 2020 again. He thinks that the lightning in a bottle he caught in 2016 will happen again, that being loud and outrageous will work. Look, we get scared about media ecosystems all day, but reality is that people live in the real world. Like that Colin Cowherd clip for those who saw it.
@possumofantikka8160
@possumofantikka8160 3 ай бұрын
youd think people would pay attention to tik tok after what happened to twitter, and knowing steve mnuchin is one of the ppl trying to buy it. thats a =very= important part of the disinformation conversation right now.
@ProtectOurClimate
@ProtectOurClimate 3 ай бұрын
Re-Elect 🧢Biden💙Harris 2024 🇺🇸. Defend 😊our🌎Democracy. Protect 🙋🙋‍♂our Rights 💙🌊.
@tgreenwood4939
@tgreenwood4939 3 ай бұрын
Not while Biden undermines international law and allows a genocidal war criminal to address congress, thanks!
@tamarrafisher9648
@tamarrafisher9648 3 ай бұрын
💙💙💙
@Photologistic
@Photologistic 3 ай бұрын
Can’t repeat that mistake. They have no chance. If they allowed a primary they would have won. Thats a dictatorship, not democracy. Democracy allows the public to change course if needed, they subverted that over the LEAST popular president in history who only got installed by the entire party banding together to prevent the will of the people, which was CLEARLY to nominate Bernie.
@Photologistic
@Photologistic 3 ай бұрын
Biden isn’t doing any of that. RFK JR 2024
@nwnmiria
@nwnmiria 3 ай бұрын
Hard to defend something you are trying to destroy.
@nightcited1600
@nightcited1600 3 ай бұрын
So enjoyed this conversation. Some days I am annoyed, angered, and yes bedazzled by the crap coming from the right that gets play.
@viewer12319
@viewer12319 3 ай бұрын
Very important discussion and Mr. Issenberg's work is brilliant and illuminating and so timely. But what a depressing headline for this offline segment- how about shifting the headline focus to how we can fight back, which is actually a major thread in Jon and Sasha's discussion?
@Curt_Randall
@Curt_Randall 3 ай бұрын
When PSA is too timid to say trump "lies" in favor of "misinformation", you know our problems with the media are spreading to KZbin talking heads also.
@persuasivebarrier2419
@persuasivebarrier2419 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. Look at what Trump’s and Guiliani’s lawyers say in court vs what T/G say in public. In public, they can lie because they aren’t required to show proof. Media assists those narratives without ever having speak on what their lawyers actually argue.
@NikosZaidGomez
@NikosZaidGomez 3 ай бұрын
I want this to become a bigger point after we win in November-- we have to turn our political power to break the toxic media ecosystems in our country. I mean, we have been the frog boiled for far too long, where we just accept that the biggest most mainstream cable news outlet deceives its viewers daily, and slanders the government of America with no basis. We need to (and we will) bring the media sphere to heel.
@possumofantikka8160
@possumofantikka8160 3 ай бұрын
this is true. someone is manipulaing the media, the govt, to softball all of this, using the terms 'peddling' instead of 'interfering' or 'attack'. using the terms funny, clownish, absurd, all that stuff is the media totally failing to explain things truthfully and playing right into the problem. if i never see the word 'peddling' again it will be too soon. the word is, 'attack'.
@nancychandler3673
@nancychandler3673 3 ай бұрын
In fairness. We do have disinformation on the Far left as well. People pretending to be on the left like Max Blumenthal who is really a Right-winger.
@silverXnoise
@silverXnoise 3 ай бұрын
When people get so anal retentive about semantics you know they have already spent far too much time on KZbin.
@nickisnyder3450
@nickisnyder3450 3 ай бұрын
The reason there are more fake stories then real stories is because there's only one real truth to any situation. But you can make a dozens of lies about it
@PhillyFrank1
@PhillyFrank1 3 ай бұрын
Please stop referring to the far right as “conservative.”
@nancychandler3673
@nancychandler3673 3 ай бұрын
Thank you. Just as the Far left isn't Liberal. These folks are both extremists working for Russia.
@musclvr377
@musclvr377 3 ай бұрын
Should be using "extremist"
@doktortutankamazon31
@doktortutankamazon31 3 ай бұрын
" One man's vote won't equal another man's vote until one man's education equals another man's education" - Frank Zappa. We suffer an education disparity. Both parties made this mess together, just a bit more blame on the right.
@sstarkey1695
@sstarkey1695 3 ай бұрын
WE caused this. Parties are made of people. WE LET THIS HAPPEN.
@GueranJones-x7h
@GueranJones-x7h 3 ай бұрын
"i will be a dictator for a day" Donald Trump says. That goes to show, He thinks we the people are stupid. He has says so himself. The people who were indicted were lawyers highly educated. What happened to our sense of right and wrong. we must give people "choice" all people.
@natch27
@natch27 3 ай бұрын
When did education become a bad thing? You work hard for your Masters or PhD and suddenly you’re considered elitist and out of touch. You can still experience life while furthering your education.
@redmed10
@redmed10 3 ай бұрын
Depends on what you call educated but there are plenty of people with the highest education qualifications that support Trump. And similarly for democrats. A lot of republicans only vote republican and even though they might not like trump as a person they vote for because he's the republican representative. Its their lack of perceiving the threat that trump poses to democracy that shocks me.
@natch27
@natch27 3 ай бұрын
@@redmed10Well stated.
@millrace32
@millrace32 3 ай бұрын
can we get a picture of levett, maybe on the wall behind where he used to sit, pls?
@proteinaggie
@proteinaggie 3 ай бұрын
Better yet, a shrine. A few candles, a soy latte, and a phone endlessly doomscrolling.
@katerusso4891
@katerusso4891 3 ай бұрын
Great show Fav!
@CassandraCassandra.
@CassandraCassandra. 3 ай бұрын
A lot of this is Russia getting into the rink - pretty much after 2014. That is after the Maidan Revolution - and what Putin viewed as western “meddling” in Ukraine. Before then he was mostly focused on weakening the EU but I think from 2014 on we became his number one (target that is). That’s when we first started to detect the contours of a global right wing effort as well - mostly based on online agitation and shady “energy” deals etc. with developing nations. China has been really big in that space as well, by essentially providing loans to nations in the developing world - for political influence. Combined, these and other methods form the basis of our 21st century version of imperialism. Very popular around the world - especially with the pre-existing “death to America” crowd. Nukes, economic interests (oil/gas & market share/currency aspirations) and a patriarchal outlook helps to unite the members of this new “Axis” as well. Note: patriarchy is the great uniter of our times - how progressive, right? Lol. It seems religious/ideological differences matter not when the goal is the preservation and expansion of the patriarchy and the economic/social advantages it brings to some. Rights, democracy and equality be damned.
@bens9275
@bens9275 3 ай бұрын
Yeah its sickening how they're just standing shoulder to shoulder with Russia and China, obviously taking their money and having no shame selling out their country
@GueranJones-x7h
@GueranJones-x7h 3 ай бұрын
What happened i UKRAINE should be a lesson to all of us. President felon. is what he wants to do to our cities.
@mirandashuwera3389
@mirandashuwera3389 3 ай бұрын
Wow! Perspective really is EVERYTHING! 🥴
@carolgates5297
@carolgates5297 3 ай бұрын
Great show thx
@BluebonnetblueTexan637
@BluebonnetblueTexan637 3 ай бұрын
Interesting , thank you
@clrbrk9108
@clrbrk9108 3 ай бұрын
Sasha just became my second favorite guest. Sorry Sasha, Jen Psaki is still at the top 😂 Please have him on again soon!
@Kenneth-mi7ue
@Kenneth-mi7ue 3 ай бұрын
..."E=MC("squared"). ..."yeah!"😊❤
@sylvanwoods5271
@sylvanwoods5271 3 ай бұрын
As a progressive, I agree with the idea of progressives turning to Fox and other conservative networks because if nothing else, it may actually mitigate, in some tiny way, the bifurcation of our news media.
@1bubbajack2
@1bubbajack2 3 ай бұрын
Wasn't the asymmetry between the right's appeal and the left-liberal appeal, as registered in size and devotion of media audiences, also a prominent feature of am radio 30-40 years ago, as exemplified by Limbaugh and Savage and Jones?
@josephgnatek5984
@josephgnatek5984 3 ай бұрын
Have you been to the Twilight Zone The greatest democracy ever known Turning autocratic before your eyes In ten short years are you surprised?
@dragoff_dragon
@dragoff_dragon 3 ай бұрын
We are on the darkest time line...
@jhpstudios8107
@jhpstudios8107 3 ай бұрын
​@@dragoff_dragon unfortunately
@notyou8397
@notyou8397 3 ай бұрын
Why not turn the media table around so all the cables aren’t showing on the camera
@myhalflifecrisis
@myhalflifecrisis 3 ай бұрын
The biggest problem (in the USA case the left - this varies from country to country) is that each group is like a puddle of reason but it’s small- meanwhile the propagandist throw a tsunami of information - and that gets larger clout
@BashbotVr
@BashbotVr 3 ай бұрын
I just need to say that I couldn’t help being distracted by the camera angle that is showing Sasha’s dome serving as a silver eagle nest.
@stephenschaffenberger6765
@stephenschaffenberger6765 3 ай бұрын
"How Trump Fuels Misinformation" - He literally says anything.
@trishnace2253
@trishnace2253 3 ай бұрын
I didn't like Hillary, I think Bernie would have pummeled Trumpertantrum into the ground. I voted for Hillary even though I live in a blue State, even though she was flippant about needing progressive voters. I think if she would have cared about winning progressives she could have won.
@allingerdoug
@allingerdoug 3 ай бұрын
As we peer into society's future, we - you and I, and our government - must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering for our own ease and convenience the precious resources of tomorrow. Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961
@gking407
@gking407 3 ай бұрын
Please everyone ask your friends and family if they are voting
@sherribogdanowicz9120
@sherribogdanowicz9120 3 ай бұрын
@VictoriaMathis
@VictoriaMathis 3 ай бұрын
You all know that Hillsdale College is running ads during PSA? so cringe, I gotta stop yelling at my screens 🤐
@eliafuimaono
@eliafuimaono 3 ай бұрын
I gotta stop working for free
@SoyBrig
@SoyBrig 3 ай бұрын
How about reporting on how people are successfully fighting misinformation !! How about report on what the options are (besides voting in gerrymandered elections)?!
@biglebowski3961
@biglebowski3961 3 ай бұрын
Most Trump supporters i know think that he actually cares about them and their views. I don't see that with Biden.
@johnshinya7448
@johnshinya7448 3 ай бұрын
Can everyone see the 2 "Bone Spurs" - coming out of the Top of Convict Trumps - head? 😢
@gingerdean1521
@gingerdean1521 3 ай бұрын
Please move your silver eagle so it is not frequently sitting on a tablemate's head
@davidletarte214
@davidletarte214 3 ай бұрын
fact-checking has no bearing on information that is designed for entertainment, even when it has a political edge to it...
@alexisarouge
@alexisarouge 3 ай бұрын
So how to deal with entertainment propaganda bs?
@davidletarte214
@davidletarte214 3 ай бұрын
@@alexisarouge start makin your own, or at least promoting the effective stuff. doesn't sound ideal but they look at it as a war, why shouldn't we?
@dragoff_dragon
@dragoff_dragon 3 ай бұрын
The media lost credibility when they put the news under the entertainment dept...
@GueranJones-x7h
@GueranJones-x7h 3 ай бұрын
​@@alexisarouge What i hear is 'DEVIOUSNESS' coming from ones who want a "permanent underclass" A billion dollars, that is an insane amount of assets. Some have multiple billions. Like any tool used Can Turn into a weapon,or something to help oneself and family.
@mirandashuwera3389
@mirandashuwera3389 3 ай бұрын
Phew! That was ALOT of mental gymnastics! 🥴
@TheKarenRob
@TheKarenRob 3 ай бұрын
there is an eagle trying to land on Sasha's head
@nancychandler3673
@nancychandler3673 3 ай бұрын
Have you noticed that Max Blumenthal has gone full Russian Propaganda?
@diamonddog3685
@diamonddog3685 3 ай бұрын
The asymmetry of conservative posts on social media has nothing to do with politics. Conservative posts are more provocative and controversial than Progressive posts. Provocative amd controversial content attracts eyeballs. Eyeballs trigger tha algorithm to promote it. Promoted content makes the platforms more money, and attracts more attention. Attention leads to more reportong and moderation of content that violates platform rules. Fact checking is treating the symptoms vs the cause. The cause of misinformation is the algorithm metastasizing the radical content. We need to regulate the algorithms.
@thunderbird3694
@thunderbird3694 3 ай бұрын
Maybe we need Drivers License to travel the Information Super Highway and those who violate the Rules of The Road get their License Revoked and lose their right to use the Highways
@sethmann6397
@sethmann6397 3 ай бұрын
I'm a very liberal Democrat. But i can recognize that Hillary Clinton blamed everybody but Hillary Clinton for her 2016 loss.
@dragoff_dragon
@dragoff_dragon 3 ай бұрын
She's to apologize for misogyny?
@jamesbuchanan9937
@jamesbuchanan9937 3 ай бұрын
That and what seems to be the unwillingness to roll up their sleeves and have empathetic discussions with people that are seemingly “brainwashed” Bernie was that person and the Left power brokers failed. They and their egos forced HC on us and Pods like these never deconstruct that base failure and just keep going “ how can these polls be like this?”
@ajarncraig2327
@ajarncraig2327 3 ай бұрын
Why not? She won (the popular vote). In any other country, that's enough.
@MJMcKenzie322
@MJMcKenzie322 3 ай бұрын
@@dragoff_dragonof course you’d blame misogyny
@dragoff_dragon
@dragoff_dragon 3 ай бұрын
What else do you call men who refuse to vote for a woman president?
@ZbNimble
@ZbNimble 3 ай бұрын
...Sasha Issenberg has an eagle on his head...Did anyone else notice?
@paulwallace2195
@paulwallace2195 3 ай бұрын
What is that eagle doing on his head?
@chezmoi42
@chezmoi42 3 ай бұрын
Don't ask.
@Photologistic
@Photologistic 3 ай бұрын
Neither party (wing of the Uniparty) is operating in good faith. RFK JR
@KommonCents_
@KommonCents_ 3 ай бұрын
Lmao i didnt know echo chambers like this existed. Is this satire? 😂😂
@spotetal7947
@spotetal7947 3 ай бұрын
In terms of demand side it isn't a big mystery to those long concerned with the failure of our education system to teach basic methods of epistemology. Knowledge has long been discourage, to enthusiastically seek knowledge on a subject is to be a nerd. A reporter speaking about the economy always beginning with "I know this is boring. This is long in the making
@nankapernaros9895
@nankapernaros9895 3 ай бұрын
It is " before " from anyone. So hoping you return " in take " about our friendship . From.....
@walteropanasets9178
@walteropanasets9178 3 ай бұрын
FJB
@iceboyo4
@iceboyo4 3 ай бұрын
Always impressed when people update their priors and change their ways, but if someone's analysis was so fundamentally wrong, why would we trust him now when he clearly just looks at the past and is not good at predicting the future. Reactive and not proactive
@msvulcanspock
@msvulcanspock 3 ай бұрын
The whole situation changed and he updated his position. This seems reasonable to me.
@iceboyo4
@iceboyo4 3 ай бұрын
@@msvulcanspock sure, I don't want to suggest I don't support that. But wasn't the premise of his prior book and now this book to be predictive?
@deniseboiselle6621
@deniseboiselle6621 3 ай бұрын
Americans NOT for Maga
@Feministretribution
@Feministretribution 3 ай бұрын
Sascha needs to go back a bit further and look at Gramsci’s theory of hegemony, to understand this. It didn’t start in America.
@289cobra9
@289cobra9 3 ай бұрын
This channel needs help for their TDS.
@LuigiMordelAlaume
@LuigiMordelAlaume 3 ай бұрын
Hold up... when did Democrats learn about political strategies?? Idk if this is real guyz
@mikeriley8512
@mikeriley8512 3 ай бұрын
Obv not the main takeaway but omg why did he keep mispronouncing gif
@joeyg7458
@joeyg7458 3 ай бұрын
He lies …Plain and simple..I saved you an hour..kindly give me a 👍🏼
@frankcooke1692
@frankcooke1692 3 ай бұрын
I'm just listening to a couple of hammers talk about how all of their problems are nails. The problem with American society is not 'messaging'. That ship has long sailed. People are receiving the 'messaging' that they want to hear - they created the demand for it. Talk about 'echo-chambers' - this whole conversation is one.
@MichealHallowell
@MichealHallowell 3 ай бұрын
What's the problem with America then, if not the sheer volume of bad faith lies pushed by the right?
@franjkav
@franjkav 3 ай бұрын
Sometimes it’s the lack of messaging still. I moved back home to Ohio in December and I see right wing ads way more regularly now. Democrats act like Ohio is very red when it’s really not. They are killing their chances in future elections by doing this. While writing this, I got an ad from THE SENTINEL ACTION FUND that links to the ohiosos.gov page for requesting an absentee ballot. In the ad there is a clip of Trump saying to vote with specific emphasis on voting by mail. Which is incredibly misleading. Trump and Republicans have stated several times that they don’t want vote by mail. I also cannot recall seeing any ads targeting the left with such a simple call to action.
@willboler830
@willboler830 3 ай бұрын
The problem isn't the disinformation being spread. The problem is voters actually hate the candidates for real complex issues, but the disinformation is an easy talking point to just quickly move past the subject. You can try to argue facts, but there are reasons for why each candidate is horrible to a voter, that no amount of talking points is going to bring them back. Voters don't like the status quo of Democrats sucking up to corporate interests. Voters don't like voting in a candidate to combat some certain aspect of government, but then seeing their candidate capitulate to the same system they want to see changed. It's the disingenuous politician that voters hate, which is why they love Trump. He may be a shit bag lying scammer, but he never said he wasn't. He's an authentic shit bag lying scammer, and that gives voters confidence.
@persuasivebarrier2419
@persuasivebarrier2419 3 ай бұрын
So they elect a corporate billionaire that gives corporations huge tax breaks and regulations in favor of corporations without having to answer to anyone?
@AM-fs1je
@AM-fs1je 3 ай бұрын
​@@persuasivebarrier2419 Yup.
@debbieschollmeyer131
@debbieschollmeyer131 3 ай бұрын
Sigh. I dislike that aspect of humanity
@ilovebrocoli6068
@ilovebrocoli6068 3 ай бұрын
A recent poll noted a top issue for Americans is bad leadership...That is why he is winning.
@rosecastro3105
@rosecastro3105 3 ай бұрын
Thats the problem with democrat? Too meek???
@thexanderthemander
@thexanderthemander 3 ай бұрын
Its gif not jif
@sstarkey1695
@sstarkey1695 3 ай бұрын
Constructive or just judgmental?
@joenot5746
@joenot5746 3 ай бұрын
Linguistically, it’s cool either way. One less thing for us to fight about 😊
@lovemakestheworldgoround6726
@lovemakestheworldgoround6726 3 ай бұрын
Reminds me of an episode of The Big Bang Theory.... they have a massive argument on this pronunciation and other similar words that are confused by people... That was a hilarious episode thanks to the genius of the writers and actors!! 😅😅😅
@luv2charlie
@luv2charlie 3 ай бұрын
Pet peeves should be kept on a leash and not allowed to bother other people.
@numericalcode
@numericalcode 3 ай бұрын
I know what he meant but the real term is Second Place + 1 not 50% + 1
@mirandashuwera3389
@mirandashuwera3389 3 ай бұрын
Only a fool makes up his/her mind before listening to or investigating BOTH sides of an issue. And there's ALWAYS two sides to any story! 🤔
@crystalcleary
@crystalcleary 3 ай бұрын
There are not two sides to actual facts and truth, they stand alone as facts and truth.
@nancyn6215
@nancyn6215 3 ай бұрын
@@crystalclearyThis person is not even from our country. I don’t know what their motive is in spewing this nonsense. It’s either gratification from seeing Americans fight against each other or they’re getting paid to do it. Either way, just ignore them.
@mirandashuwera3389
@mirandashuwera3389 3 ай бұрын
@@nancyn6215 only fools...lol 😆
@musclvr377
@musclvr377 3 ай бұрын
Or more!
@msvulcanspock
@msvulcanspock 3 ай бұрын
You don't have to tell both sides of a lie.
@atkinsryan
@atkinsryan 3 ай бұрын
Yet another left leaning guest who needs public speaking lessons. Every other word is "uhhhmmmmm.." "uhhhhh...." "Y'know" No doofus, we don't know and y'all are doing a piss poor job of convincing us, your most friendly audience.
@PFWoody488
@PFWoody488 3 ай бұрын
Too many "Umm"s. Seriously dude, you use language to make a living. You don't have to use "Umm" as some sort ot punctuation mark.
@Catdad666
@Catdad666 3 ай бұрын
Anyone have a link to that Roose piece mentioned at 18:15
@TheAserghui
@TheAserghui 3 ай бұрын
You lost me at "J"IF. what are they japhics?
@RacerXdBrother
@RacerXdBrother 3 ай бұрын
The nonsensical rantings of a lunatic mind.
@b991228
@b991228 3 ай бұрын
Why do 12 people on a jury come to verdict that they would not make on following their chosen media? How can we make online viewers act like jurors. What’s the delivery?
@renatheer
@renatheer 3 ай бұрын
To me it's the way you've let your media run rampant without any oversight. If the US followed a standard set in many other countries, the media would have a self-governing federation that would keep everyone in check and see to that they complied with clear set ethical and professional standards, most importantly among them in the US lately is clearly if they tell the truth. Fox News would have been thrown off cable providers for repeatedly lying if there were any standards left in the US.
@GueranJones-x7h
@GueranJones-x7h 3 ай бұрын
That is a novel idea? However, somethings should not be attempted to be improved upon Like a cashless society.
@NikosZaidGomez
@NikosZaidGomez 3 ай бұрын
A deluge of information. That's what makes the difference in the courtroom and on the campaign trail. The delivery isn't the key-- it's just getting it delivered at all. Whether that means texting neighbors, calling people in Michigan, sending postcards to North Carolina, etc. Just more information that boxes out the filth in Fox and OAN is a winner.
@SaltheartFoamfollower
@SaltheartFoamfollower 3 ай бұрын
Bring back the Fairness doctrine that Reagan killed, would be a good place to start. His abolishing of it ushered in the propaganda distribution network otherwise known as Fox
@randibgood
@randibgood 3 ай бұрын
Because those people are dealing with FACTS. Not the bullshit being thrown at the wall by reich-wingnut media and politicians.
@Abigail_Carfax
@Abigail_Carfax 3 ай бұрын
💙
@debbieclark813
@debbieclark813 3 ай бұрын
Awesome interview! So informative! 💗
@GiorniVenibato
@GiorniVenibato 3 ай бұрын
Another must watch episode!❤
@bellaberke
@bellaberke 3 ай бұрын
@Linda-vw4uz: the "my cousin was a juror" post was retracted by the poster himself as being true admitting he's a shit poster who does it for entertainment. See it works 😄
@Tomscomment
@Tomscomment 3 ай бұрын
I take away from this that telling people "you can say any crazy sh*t and we take you seriously" (actually it was more "we do not care whether something is true or not") made certain people feel empowered. "Hey, there is this guy running for president and he is really batsh*t crazy, but he is polling well and all the Lefties are losing their mind over it! So who is crazy now?"
@ryancappo
@ryancappo 3 ай бұрын
The internet/forums in 2007-2008 were a lot more liberal. But the GOP realized this and funded trolls and commenters to just repost and share the same thing over and over again until people thought that was the way a large portion of Americans thought. The Democrat campaigns failed big time with their “offline is better, anti-tech bro” plan.
@SciFlyGal
@SciFlyGal 3 ай бұрын
A lot of it was older people getting online as well
@temporalrip2611
@temporalrip2611 3 ай бұрын
Wait, Why doesn't this administration bring back the 2015-2016 Obama-Biden memes?
@GueranJones-x7h
@GueranJones-x7h 3 ай бұрын
Repetition is how we learn. I draw, and learn the piano. Repetition is good for the soul.
@bignatius
@bignatius 3 ай бұрын
That was excellent. Great interview and topic.
@alirossi40
@alirossi40 3 ай бұрын
Is that a bird on his head?🤣 A little distracting. Still looking forward to listening to (Audible) to his new book.
@luv2charlie
@luv2charlie 3 ай бұрын
Is anyone else distracted by the silver eagle coming out of the top of Sasha's head in the full face camera view? Don't know who set-up the background but they messed that up!
@editatrix1
@editatrix1 3 ай бұрын
How much of the viewing imbalance is due to the fact that, while "conservatives" tend to seek out only their own kind, "liberals" (tell me you're a Canuck without telling me) want to check out at least *some* of the other side's opinions?
@vitostabile7974
@vitostabile7974 3 ай бұрын
Undeniably the best Pod Save America episode in recent memory.
@UrbaNSpiel
@UrbaNSpiel 3 ай бұрын
Vote Biden n down ballot
@Kenneth-mi7ue
@Kenneth-mi7ue 3 ай бұрын
Excellent...timeless evolution of communication;posit:" 'it' is NOT 'it'; 'it' is 'that' which WE will to do. so our "tech." ways&means happens sooner than we may have "prepared"(w/or w/out SUBSTSANCE);😊 "sooner"
@BrendanWinterSC81
@BrendanWinterSC81 3 ай бұрын
Really great episode. I loved the conversation about focusing on the underlying issue rather than spending endless time taking on ever recurring sources of negative information sounds like a novel strategy. Almost immunizing people against disinformation; so, regardless of sources it will be ineffective on them. "Baseline map" idea also reminds me a lot of medicine. Important to know the "normal" state of ones body to be able to identify important changes.
@gettingitright2024
@gettingitright2024 3 ай бұрын
Loved this fascinating conversation, especially comparing and contrasting Obama's campaign and current practices. Thank you!
@carolgates5297
@carolgates5297 3 ай бұрын
A dream A nightmare A lesson to those with ears to hear
@bettyjeanh6557
@bettyjeanh6557 3 ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@StefanHayden
@StefanHayden 3 ай бұрын
not to be pedantic but tiktoks very much have a link you can send to people.
@skcamerican
@skcamerican 3 ай бұрын
There’s never been a better time to be a psychic, or to sell hats.
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