How Dr. Pim van Lommel Stopped Believing Materialism | Consciousness is NOT a Product of the Brain

[@Dion_Mustard]

I am a British man, and somewhat "rational-minded" but a few years ago I had an Out of Body Experience which then lead to Lucid Dreams on a regular basis. I could not believe what was happening , when it seemed my consciousness separated from my physical body and i was able to go to different places. It felt more real than my current waking reality. I would never have believed in such things UNTIL it happened to me. always keep an open mind.

[@joegroup1]

Yes I've had quite a few OBEs, it's like another sense. If all people was born blind, and you was given sight, how do you explain the sense of sight to a race of blind people. There's not any definitive way to explain OBEs, using the benchmark of three dimensions of space and the one dimension of time.

[@PsychonauticExplorer]

Yes, it's probably impossible for science to back it up in such a way that even the biggest sceptics believe it as it can only be experienced. It's like Morpheus explaining to Neo that the world outside of the Matrix cannot be fully explained as it needs to be experienced.

[@Dion_Mustard]

@@PsychonauticExplorer 👌

[@joegroup1]

@@PsychonauticExplorer Not with current technology can we understand what happens to people when they experience an OBE or a NDE.

[@michaelsawdon1905]

sounds similar to me . ive been experiencing, had 6 outer body s and at least 20 lucid dreams in a year and half, i,ve meditated for 7 years also

[@joegroup1]

The human consciousness is connected somehow either to the quantum realm or to dimensions that we can’t perceive with our five senses. I’ve had quite a few OBEs, one instance I was asleep I left my body, the next thing I remember I was floating outside my aunt’s bedroom, and I just knew that burglars were breaking into the house next door, and I was worried about my aunt, and then I just knew that the burglars wasn’t going to break into my aunt’s house. I went to my aunt’s the next day, I didn’t mention in any way, I knew there had been a burglary next door. The first thing my aunt mentioned when I sat down to drink my cuppa, was that they had been a burglary next door.

[@Dion_Mustard]

@@joegroup1 amazing !

[@discordlexia2429]

Are you certain that isn't a constructed memory? I'm sorry, I actually really, really hate being the sceptic, but I can't help it. I can't turn it off no matter how hard I try.

[@Dion_Mustard]

@discordlexia2429 well, what is memory, my friend? Do you know if the brain produces memory? If so, exactly how does it work? Please explain how matter (brain matter) can give rise to awareness and things such as out of body experiences. If you can explain all of this by brain science I certainly salute you.

[@discordlexia2429]

@@Dion_Mustard I can't, but I'm not a neuroscientist. What I do know is that it's possible for the brain to construct memories to fill in gaps or explain things that don't make sense to it, that feel as real as reality.

[@Dion_Mustard]

@@discordlexia2429 then how do you explain people having memories whilst clinically dead? Don't you need a working brain in order to experience memories according to science anyway?

[@SMMore-bf4yi]

Having 2 NDE’s, one as a child… one adult… my conclusion, being in this dense body & able to join earth is rich, plentiful experience, somewhat of a miracle privileged to be here in the good & not so good … the afterlife a wonderful transition tho until able to do again …each experience mirrors the other

[@o.aldenproductions.9858]

Beautiful ❤️

[@PsychonauticExplorer]

Try psychedelics, trip with closed eyes, be fearless and let go of everything human. Had a mystical experience mid 2019 during which I went into the light and ended up at the Absolute/in Heaven, where I telepathically communicated with infinite tightly arranged rows of star-like beings of light (souls). They explained to me that we don't have to die to go to Heaven, you just need to know how to leave your body and astral travel. Anyone who doesn't want to go the psychedelics route can look into astral travel, OBE meditation, Monroe Institute's Gateway Experience, The Gateway Project documents etc... there are many ways to leave to the body and cross over and dying is just one of them. The whole UFO disclosure will reveal this as well within the next few years as UFOs/UAPs root into consciousness and spirituality. 🍄

[@Sammyli99]

My Dog died yesterday, in my arms, as he passed, the window flew open bang..from inside to outside...😮 yep, he couldn't wait to go, been ill 3 months. Rest in peace my super swimmer...Bluey 😊

[@arjenvandervegt8638]

​@@Sammyli99condolences. Hope you had great moments together

[@elbee1290]

@@Sammyli99 Awww, that's so hard to go through! I'm sorry you're hurting from the transition of your fur-baby. What a precious gift to be shown the window flying open! You know your Bluey is going to fine till you meet again...

[@HauboHaub]

His book consciousness beyond life has changed my life

[@Shoutenkou]

Consciousness Beyond Life? I have to grab that one as well, I'm currently reading through Long's "Evidence of the Afterlife".

[@Yhoshua_B]

@@Shoutenkou Great book!

[@universalenergy8060]

Can you please share the name of the book?Thank you

[@Shoutenkou]

@@universalenergy8060 consciousness beyond life.

[@HauboHaub]

@@universalenergy8060 NL Eindeloos Bewustzijn, EN Consciousness Beyond Life

[@kuyakano8976]

Read his fascinating books many years ago. Certainly thought provoking. It does not really matter whether you believe in an afterlife or not. Live your life in the now and present as best as you can. In the end, we will all find out anyway.

[@teachernickinsaigon1201]

Why are medical students being taught assumptions as if they were facts? Doesn't that contradict the way science is supposed to work?

[@daveshongkongchinachannel]

It is a sure way to ensure science doesn't work as we have seen in so many real-life examples and some on a huge scale in recent years.

[@johnmc3862]

​@@daveshongkongchinachannelNonsense. Science works for countless things. No one said it was perfect.

[@daveshongkongchinachannel]

I was referring to the pseudo science that seems to have replaced real science. And the bought and paid for science that supports certain agendas.

[@chirpywiggins5796]

NDE'S are assumptions, massive ones as well considering the majority of resuscitated patients don't experience or remember anything.

[@chrispeters5748]

scientifc dogmas certainly exist in academia. You cant question certain accepted ideas without facing ridicule. Its very ant-science

[@matureyoungman]

Just to clarify for viewers, he means the tenets of Materialism which deduces that mind (if it admits a mind at all) is tethered to the brain and nervous system.

[@procerusgigas]

Hey bot, how do you do? i SEE YOU!

[@vish2553]

Mind and consciousness are not one and same. I, the conscious being, is AWARE of my mind. Angry mind, joyful mind, sand mind arises and disappears in consciousness but consciousness is mere WITNESS of the mind.

[@frv6610]

​@@vish2553Tony Parson said there is no person, just like a tree is not a person. This means the witness is like a tree, it's not a real witness?

[@vish2553]

@@frv6610 consciousness is NOT AN OBJECT. It can never be objectified because it is the very SUBJECT. Any attempt in ANY WAY will make it into an object which it is not. Vedanta are pointers only to consciousness which is beyond body mind intellect and senses. It is a state of BEING, not explainable

[@v1kt0u5]

@@vish2553 you don't say...

[@theeastman9136]

Good for you doctor, now the real science begins.

[@LogicRebellion]

During the death process, the body releases different hormones. This influences brain activity into lucid dreaming, etc. I had a brief NDE years ago but I'm not sure if it is real or just something the brain does during death. My mother passed away a week ago and really want to believe she's in a beautiful place having a wonderful time.

[@MrSoy_]

Send your brain regards from me.

[@juergenbloh45]

One of my Heros, his book was one of my eye opener for more

[@DreamMonster7X]

Yup.

[@rickfunny3583]

A real subject matter expert!

[@BigGuy1620]

Very interesting interview. Now I am on to the next one.

[@issamelias1747]

As a Dr. I once resuscitated an old man who had an extended myocardial infarction, by giving him 7 electric shocks, thank God he came back - & the first thing he said was „ why did you bring me back?“ I deduce from that sentence that he had an NDE, but way back in the 7 ties, it was not usual to ask the patient if he had seen or experienced something. ❤

[@WalterHull-dj6qk]

I have said the same thing to the anesthesiologist after every surgery I've had. Propofol is heaven.

[@stadekamel5550]

5:57 a guy from Saudi Arabia has an amazing NDE When he went to the sea for swimming by accident he was stuck between the rocks..under the water and he was watching his body from above, no doctor, no propofol, no one there, and he was in bliss and heaven, but the king told him you will return, it is not time yet.. Then he found himself in the pool of the sea again, something threw him into his body, as if a miracle had happened, he was freed and floated to the surface and returned to breathing and life after that.. and he still remembers the sweetness of the water and the fruit in his mouth, he had never seen anything like it, and he began to be interested in reading about Ibn al-Rumi and al-Hallaj and their talk about Sufi discovery and the kingdom and others because he understood the meaning of that well and could not explain it in a verbal way.. and a person stuck unconscious under water cannot know what is happening above and who called for an ambulance and what the comrades said

[@aarong8457]

Maybe he had a mean wife.

[@bunberrier]

Beautiful stories... beautiful foundation, beautiful home he has too.

[@medicinavedica]

Good deliverance

[@Lion_Heart_Zimbabwe]

We are Spiritual Beings having a physical, human experience. We are all part of the Divine, Universal Consciousness AKA God/Spirit/Source. Everything from beings like animals and humans to water, plants, rocks, trees, wind, planets, stars and galaxies has sacred Consciousness/Spirit. Everything is alive and intelligent. The whole universe has Consciousness. Water is Consciousness. There is no such thing as "materialism". No such thing as "chance" or "coincidence ". Our universe and all within it is Consciousness/Spirit. Love, Compassion, Kindness and Unity are the very fabric of our Universe. Everything is Divinely designed and orchestrated. We are all energy beings of Consciousness/Spirit.

[@im4ever369]

My grandmother was in a sanitorium with tuberculosis in 1930; my mother was 8 years old at the time. My grandmother died and the doctors revived her. She was PISSED! She said, "Don't ever do that again!" Just like I believe, "Let the babies live!" I also believe, "Let the dead bury the dead." We are all eternal vibrational beings. I was 8 years old when I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am eternal. The emphasis we have on keeping people alive is laughable. There's no such thing as death, and this has nothing to do with theology.

[@discordlexia2429]

You laugh because you don't understand what it's like to know without a shadow of a doubt that we aren't eternal, that we're just isolated lumps of meat hemmed in by cold and uncaring infinity in every direction. Even if it's not true, it hurts so much that it's not funny.

[@im4ever369]

@@discordlexia2429 Everyone is creating their own reality. You are welcome to yours.

[@diogocarneiro654]

This phenomena is known for millenia. The first time it has been scientifically studied in a coherent theory was on 1800s France by the name "emancipation of the soul" on the work of Allan Kardec, along with other empirical evidence obtained at the time with so called mediuns. From time to time a new theory about this come, but Allan Kardec's theory is the first one and is frequently ignored and overlooked. I recommend the book "The Spirits Book", where there are some data about this obtained in a number of ways more than a century ago. Still think that's the more complete and more precise theory of the afterlife that we have until know, and furnishes base for better comprehension of contemporary empirical research of near death experience for example.

[@ChopperChad]

I'm reading some interesting claims recently that maybe conscientious is of the microbiome and fungi which manifest complex life forms to experience itself. The intelligence of nature expressed if you will.

[@ArlindoPhilosophicalArtist]

Monistic idealism is more compelling than materialism. I also talk about NDEs on my channel. Nature, it seems, allows for an afterlife.

[@rythmicwarrior]

Because Death is an illusion. There is only Life and Rebirth.

[@bertkreft9689]

there is no matter - what is considered to be the building blocks of matter are in reality fields - and these fields consist of vibrating space and there is only one element - that is space it self and through its different vibrations it creates different types of matter - and there is even nothing like death - it is a severe transformation - and there is absolute nothing like god - there is only life - if you call it god - you are falling short

[@WalterHull-dj6qk]

@@rythmicwarrior Prove it.

[@rythmicwarrior]

@@WalterHull-dj6qk lol

[@PsychonauticExplorer]

​@@WalterHull-dj6qk experience it yourself... look into OBE, astral travel, lucid dreaming, psychedelics and such. Anyone can leave their body without dying if you know how to do it and with some practice. The weird thing is that the 'other side' feels more real than this reality.

[@ElicLlewellyn]

That's nice. I'm glad he's realized the reductionist hypotheses regarding consciousness are inadequate. But still, all we have are inferences. WE need a deeper understanding and tangible proof.

[@IanKerry-ip6fx]

Life here is just a play

[@DaiBei]

A play to learn.

[@chirpywiggins5796]

You dont know that, nobody does.

[@testtest-oo8si]

@@chirpywiggins5796 u know

[@AlanMcBride-yw6in]

Actors on a stage according to Shakespeare. As people move into and through old age they understand their life as a story. A story with themes a story with meaning.

[@DreamMonster7X]

I've really come to see this. We're here to have a human experience. Good and Bad... sometimes in the same lifetime.

[@WolfgangWhyte]

What if our brains are just phase-array antennae, which connect us to a non-local field of consciousness... maybe our physical forms are just little bumper cars through which said consciousness solves problems and entertains itself? Jung kinda touched on that notion... Remember, if the mass of the brain were the mass of the mind, the bear would be shooting at my behind 😉

[@IrateMoogle]

Orch OR Theory suggests something similar

[@apocryphalshepherd]

Yeah, like a swarm of remotely controlled drones or cars. Or an animal actor in a movie, controlled by an off-screen trainer. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that last bit. Are you saying that there's no correlation between brain size and intelligence? I'm not saying there is, but I once read that the reason large animals often have large brains is because a huge part of the brain's function is to control the muscles. Imagine the muscles of a whale, for example, you need a lot of brain to control those muscles.

[@WolfgangWhyte]

@@apocryphalshepherd In brain chemistry, there are (mainly) two intertwined factors that affect the throughput of consciousness: i) protein intake/reliance, and ii) heat dissipation.

 The more protein ingested, the more spark across synapses. There is a correlation over-time with diet and development, where we see (on a Darwinian timescale) creatures with high protein consumption (carnivores) being more active and adept at problem-solving which, over time, has effected the development and placement of ears and (moreso) eyes. High protein carnivores have ears that fold back to lie flat alongside the skull (for fighting with dinner) and two forward-facing eyes for better tracking in 3D environments; whereas low protein mammals (mainly herbivores) tend to have ears which swivel like radar (but do not fold defensively flat against the skull) and wide-spaced bilaterally placed eyes for the greatest range in field of vision, so as to hear and see approaching predators. 

 The heat dissipation element is likely a limiting factor in the “percentage of brain utilized”; were we able to get enough energy to utilize the bulk of our brains, they’d run too hot beneath porous (insulated) skulls, and we’d cook ourselves with thought. We’re really only now entering a period where our species would be able to gather enough protein to amp up brain chemistry for a high percentage burn, but would still remain physically and genetically limited by the great anchor of our hard-headed ancestors.

 As for that last part - with bears shooting at our behinds, it was simply a little quip to say the size of the brain isn’t what governs our intellect or conscious potential, otherwise there’s quite a few larger mammals who would have us on their dinner plates - fresh human McNuggets at the McBear’s drive-thru.

 As for consciousness itself, I’m not sure we’ll ever riddle that out - it’s Schrödinger looking through a mirror at himself in a box instead of his cat. Though I rather like Douglas Adams’ attempt in Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, where it was theorized that if ever anyone ever figured out the meaning behind the universe itself, everything in the universe would instantly disappear only to be replaced by something infinitely more complex… it has also been postulated that this has already happened 🤭 And I could be wrong about all of it - there's faith both beyond and throughout it all that has found it's way into our genetic memory since Grog first found fire, so... 🤷‍♂

[@Jumbotronblahblah]

Welcome to Hinduism 🙏

[@WolfgangWhyte]

@@Jumbotronblahblah I go where the tandoori chicken takes me 🍛

[@Frooqi786]

Materialism is a dead duck. Darwinism has hampered science & prevented radical breakthroughs.

[@DreamMonster7X]

Agree 💯.

[@ruudh.g.vantol4306]

Your consciousness is much like your liver or kidney. It filters out and summarizes what your senses come up with, and feeds that back to your brain.

[@reeyees50]

Cardiac/respiratory death yes ,but total brain death not quite. The brain still receiving sensory information during this near death state.

[@Dion_Mustard]

These experiences are more real than our current reality ..why would a brain that is shutting down or indeed depleted of oxygen create an ultra lucid experience..think about it ...

[@attenderewelcome]

I do believe they experience this, but i'm skeptical of an afterlife, i think its more our brain is giving the ultimate soft goodbye, like if he's saying cmon let it go, you're gonna be fine, you're gonna see your family and friends, move on and let go, but in the end the brain is gonna shut down and we die.

[@larrycrowne8330]

Why would the brain do that?

[@attenderewelcome]

@larrycrowne8330 because we dont want to go, we are fighting no matter what, but when the brain and body Is in his ultimate state i think It give us this comfort way to let It go and not fight anymore, so It give us the comfort we Need, seeing our loved ones, seeing God if you believe in God, etc. I dont know, i'm Just saying things, maybe they're right, maybe theres An afterlife and we do all meet our loved ones, Wish that Is true actually, its Just i dont believe It for real...not optimistic i Guess.

[@dreamsofturtles1828]

​@attenderewelcome I tend to go by personal experience more than belief, although it's lead to beliefs. I moved into a house that was haunted by the previous owner. That lead me to believe there's life after death.

[@discordlexia2429]

@@dreamsofturtles1828 What exactly happened that gave you empirical evidence that it was haunted and not any more mundane explanation?

[@simonmillburn822]

Thank God!

[@brunovanhove1832]

Being reborn in the west you begin to see how much hopeless ignorance there is ! I may have touched some( one or two?)people coming in contact during my stay here, but mostly" a drop in an ocean"of indolence and low consciousness! Thank the DAO for the Sikh community ( migrants) over here, but it's still like Jesus said "'don't throw your pearls to the swine's!' Thank for posting 🙏☯️

[@jgriffin282]

I don’t agree. The Sikhs here in Canada can be very violent and extreme in their desire for a separate khalistani state. They blew up an Air India flight with 100’s of people on board because of this stupidity. Hardly on a higher spiritual plane than us.

[@Prestige21-j1l]

If mind/consciousness is separate from brain activity then how do you explain people with mental disabilities? Is their mind somehow becomes reasonable when they pass

[@adalbertoruiz7651]

There are cases of blind people who were able to see during NDEs. Blindness is a quality of their bodies only.

[@mariagullonruiz]

My mum just died and she had a mental illness. Consciousness and the mind aren't the same, and it's comforting to think that, in passing, the difficulties tied to the mind-like mental illness-dissolve, leaving behind only the pure essence of consciousness.

[@larrycrowne8330]

An answer to this sort of objection I’ve heard is that the brain may be a receiver for consciousness, not the producer of it. If I give my router a good thrashing because I’m annoyed at a KZbin comment, my access to the Internet may become impaired, but that’s a problem with the router and not the internet itself.

[@Prestige21-j1l]

@@larrycrowne8330 that’s an interesting analogy. Also similar to radio waves and TV

[@Erosistheonlyreal]

Consciousness is basically just awareness. The consciousness is the observing agent, not the mind, like mariagullonruiz said. Consciousness exists below the mind. Think of a blank canvas, that blank canvas is consciousness and mind is all the colors.

[@waldwassermann]

I love the dutch... they've got figured it out.. although they won't tell you.

[@WalterHull-dj6qk]

Spooky action at a distance proves ghosts.

[@dreamsofturtles1828]

I used to live in a haunted house, ghosts are real to me.

[@WalterHull-dj6qk]

@@dreamsofturtles1828 I acknowledge the phenomenon but not the explanation. Ghosts are an impossibility, unless you think clothes have an afterlife too.

[@dreamsofturtles1828]

@@WalterHull-dj6qk "Ghosts are an impossibility". How do you know that? Read it in a book? Went to a lecture by some bone-headed scientist who repeats the things he was taught? Step out of the echo chamber.

[@MrSoy_]

@@WalterHull-dj6qk What a great analogy..

[@WalterHull-dj6qk]

@@dreamsofturtles1828 Do you insult people you disagree with in person, too? Call me all the names you want, but you can't even explain what a ghost would be if it was possible. If nonmaterial you can't see it, if it is material, it's not a ghost. The concept is a contradiction.

[@TheKetsa]

How do you explain 12/50 though...

[@No2AI]

I am Not sure if I should be relieved or sceptical of this ‘afterlife’. The knowledge that this place is actually not a ‘natural reality’ as I have come to believe but a secretive managed and controlled system and we are retuned here not born here is ‘interesting’ but !

[@chirpywiggins5796]

You dont have knowledge that this place is not natural because there's no evidence to suggest it. Just stories.

[@AminS-t6j]

An NDE (Near-Death Experience) indicates that the brain is still active. Survival is impossible once brain death occurs, a fact well-known to all doctors.

[@Dion_Mustard]

I disagree. Many people who have these experiences are essentially brain dead , (clinically dead) or certainly their brain is not functioning the same hence they should not have any experiences whatsoever. Moreover , these experiences are life changing and people often mention a life review where they feel the emotions of other people during their life span . Look up the case of Pam Reynolds

[@AminS-t6j]

@@Dion_Mustard I get where you're coming from, but there's a big difference between clinical death and brain death. Clinical death can sometimes be reversed, and the brain might still have some activity, which could explain NDEs. But brain death means all brain activity has stopped permanently, and there's no coming back from that. Pam Reynolds' case happened during clinical death, not brain death.

[@Dion_Mustard]

@@AminS-t6j again you're missing the bigger point...these experiences are other worldly ..people describe traveling through the universe ..seeing future events unfold .meeting ancestors they never knew in life, visiting locations and seeing all that was happening .. telepathically communicating with other beings, life reviews, watching their resuscitation from the roof and been accurate in what they saw etc etc ....think again ..😀🧠

[@AminS-t6j]

@@Dion_Mustard I understand that NDEs can feel incredibly vivid and otherworldly, but it's important to remember that these experiences occur while the brain is still active, even if minimally. The brain can create powerful and complex experiences, especially under extreme conditions. While people report amazing things like meeting ancestors or seeing future events, these experiences don't necessarily mean the brain is dead. They highlight the brain's incredible capacity to generate vivid experiences, even in critical situations.

[@watermusic4381]

​@@AminS-t6jYou're are incorrect as consciousness is not located in the brain. The brain exists within consciousness. As does everything in the material world. You mistakingly assume that we exist in an actual place and time but this is nothing but an illusion. All that we perceive through the senses is just a very elaborate dream.

[@jaybhavani8416]

🧘 We expect discussion / debate with Vedanta Newyork Sarvapriyanand Chinmay Mission Towards the Truth . 🚩

[@Lion_Heart_Zimbabwe]

When we sleep, we astral travel. Lucid Dreaming. Our souls can journey to other dimensions and angelic realms to continue learning while our earthy, 3D bodies are asleep.

[@lewisrain]

read Bernardo Kastrup, y’all

[@sanjosemike3137]

There are veridical aspects of NDE's that are often debunked by atheists. As a general rule, there is no data that can "survive" an atheist rebuttal. Rebuttal is part of the fabric of the personality of atheism. I understand this. Human and animal suffering has not been "dealt with" properly by believers. Perhaps this is an impossible goal. Despite atheism, there are still millions of people who have had these "strange" experiences that share many attributes. For atheists reading this, I don't think it makes any difference to you. Many believers are even confused by their own NDE's. The bottom line is that whether you are an atheist or a believer, you have a "right" to be confused by our present reality. If God exists, certainly God is a part of that confusion. If there is no God, then there is no purpose to your existence or the Universe, so ultimately, everything is meaningless. Talking about "confusion." We have a right to be confused. Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)

[@mazyarkanani6708]

Have been qualified as a doctor 25 years (cardiac) and have never heard anyone experience this or anything like it. Not saying it doesn’t happens- just that I have No experience of it. I hear these stories but can be difficult to relate to unless u have experienced yourself or spoken to those who have

[@chirpywiggins5796]

Its far less common then these channels report. Science is actually getting closer to proving that it all relates to the brain. For me it's the biggest reason these NDE's are so individual, just like a dream is to that individual and their brain. There are thousands of versions of heaven reported by patients. We can't all be going to different places when we pass on .

[@sanjosemike3137]

Your patients obviously do not want to discuss this with you. As a materialist atheist, your contact with them is only tentative and related to medicine. They are obviously not comfortable with you. I understand that. You are busy treating patients. Working with staff. You don't have any time to "waste" on NDEs. You have your charting to do and many patients awaiting you. Why waste time discussing issues with patients? Perhaps if you had more time, it might be possible. For you this is obviously a waste of your valuable time. It is more and more difficult to keep up with hospital and Government rules. "Small talk is for small people." Not important people like yourself. Sanjosemike (no longer in CA) Retired surgeon

[@mazyarkanani6708]

@@sanjosemike3137 i’m not sure why you assume I’m an atheist or materialist. Actually I am neither. If you read what I wrote, all I said is that I’ve no experience of it so can’t relate to the stories. Its bizarre why you should jump to any conclusions about me

[@briansmith2836]

​@@chirpywiggins5796they are not so individual. Cross cultural studies across many centuries show ndes to exhibit very similar elements. The only difference being that western ndes often report life reviews whereas very few life reviews are reported in non-western cases of ndes.

[@brebeaa]

⁠@@chirpywiggins5796I’ve read and watched a lot of NDE accounts, and yes, there’s variation in their descriptions, but there’s a surprising amount of continuity too. I’ve noticed that there are a handful of general “places” people seem to visit; 1. A pastoral setting, sometimes including a city with massive buildings. The descriptions of plants and materials in this place often have a great deal of continuity, like things seeming luminous, and exhibiting colors never before-seen. 2. The “void” a place of darkness that seems to be paradoxically comforting. 3. A cosmic, less “literal” place where beings are more energy than humanoid. It’s weird, for sure, but the fact that there are archetypes is interesting, and possibly suggestive of different ‘realms’ or states of being in an afterlife. Perhaps people visit a specific realm to make them feel more at home, or leave an impression, which if there is a God or higher consciousness that is orchestrating things, would make sense. Obviously this is just speculation, and NDEs could be a big final brain fart, but the verifiable elements of NDE’s, like OBE’s and bringing back verifiable information from the other side, for me, keep the possibility of their reality on the table.

[@ronjohnson4566]

Consciousness is a Product of the Brain. go dig up any of the buried and ask them about their out-of-body experiences. take a Go Pro and several sets of batteries. make a video and put it here. a beautiful sky, sunsets and landscapes are materials. why is it that if the dead can visualize after death, then why would they describe it as things we already know? Heaven's just a sin away oh, whoa Just a sin away I can't wait another day I think I'm givin' in

[@smooth111012]

Exactly, Drs need to stop trying to bring people back from death Let their journey go on

[@ARPorganics]

I never take anything seriously when it comes to the human body/soul. Humans are here on earth learning to live a great life. We have the option to either see the truth or blind ourselves with lies. I have never seen the actual Creator aka God/God's who created all living beings and things. Everything anyone says is most time's partially true or 100% false. We can't fully believe what a person says is actual truth. Unless you experience it on your own. Study yourself. Look deep within yourself if you want some truth in your life.

[@Saturnia7]

The camera spends a lot of time on the interviewer!

[@thingamajig765]

That's the editor, the camera was on her the whole time.

[@somechrisguy]

The panning round to her face was annoying too. just put it on a tripod and leave it alone.

[@Saturnia7]

@@somechrisguy I hear you!

[@kullerko]

I would suggest magic mushrooms for those who wants to know more 👁

[@chirpywiggins5796]

Also a trick of the mind, like NDE's.

[@kullerko]

@@chirpywiggins5796 two meditation a day as well

[@Dion_Mustard]

@@chirpywiggins5796 far from being a trick of the mind. I should know I've experienced OBEs many times.

[@DreamMonster7X]

I've tried that. It's a drug induced experience. Now try to the same experience when your brain is dead... in medical terms. Zero brain activity. It's not the same by a long shot.

[@joplaygames666]

In my NDE i saw Doraemon believe it! Then i decided to leave materialism

[@vkhanhvy8330]

I would absolutely love to meet Doraemon in the afterlife

[@joplaygames666]

@@vkhanhvy8330 are you for real saying those?

[@joplaygames666]

@@vkhanhvy8330are you serious about what you said?

[@sapaducy1]

he looks high

[@eurisko3676]

So because 12 out of 50 came up with a story, he ignores the 38 who experienced absolutely nothing. Of what he believes was real, 50 out of 50 people would have experienced something.

[@GuiltyBystander8]

12 responded, we don't know what the other 38 experienced because they never shared if they experienced something.

[@eurisko3676]

@@GuiltyBystander8 Nice excuse.

[@Breath-j8x]

So you are right are you? Just because 38 didn't have the same experience does not mean he is wrong. I know he is far more intelligent than you, so who the hell are you to deny this man's theory's.

[@eurisko3676]

@@Breath-j8x Yes, he is wrong. And you only need a modicum of intelligence to know that. It’s not that “they didn’t have the same experience”, they had no experience. Nothing. If there was an after life, every single one of them would have had a story to share. So instead of idol worshipping this guy, think for yourself.

[@Dion_Mustard]

@@eurisko3676 many reasons why many people do not have an experience..firstly drugs are often given to people during a cardiac arrest which may affect memory recall. Two, perhaps those who did not have an NDE were simply not meant to have one . possibility. Then another reason could be they did not wish to reveal what they experienced or the experience might come back into their memory later on when they recovered. I personally think everyone has an NDE but most forget due to memory circuits in the brain.

[@NickWilmans]

I heard a story of an ex-muslim who had a near death experience. He's now an ex-muslim for that reason. But he fleed to New Zealand cause in Europe he is in danger. He knows the thruth.

[@richiekalel9876]

I have a theory that our brains are just receivers and somehow our consciousness is out of our prospective reality, call it a different dimension.

[@Breath-j8x]

Our brains are receivers & its not your theory Einstein, its a fact or we couldn't receive or register anything could we. You have a fricken theory 😂🤣🤣

[@richiekalel9876]

@ A receiver for our consciousness Einstein, I would be thrilled to read your vast knowledge and wisdom, please enlighten us on the matter since you’re so quick to mock people’s humble opinions. Come on squire am waiting.

[@omrb132]

Its easy and fast way to say a theory 😂

[@pjc_7]

I really agree with this, have ready more than 10 books of this matter.. in some way i think its related to this.

[@NickWilmans]

If it can be proved. It will solve a lot of world problems.

[@johnb6749]

What an uninformative and dull video - no actual information beyond the sketchy-outlines of statistical methodology.... Waste of time watching this.