How Dragon Ball Z Changed Sonic the Hedgehog

Dragon Ball has been a huge part of Sonic's DNA and it's no secret... but HOW did that happen? Let Mugi explain how and why it happened!
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[@MugiMallard]

Have you noticed a connection between Sonic and Dragon Ball that I didn't mention here? What's your favorite aspect of Dragon Ball that Sonic borrowed? Let me know!

[@GameKnight404]

Sonic or Dragon ball? My answer is Bill Clinton.

[@abdulquymmabdulquymm1490]

No you can gather wishes but if you played Sonic o6

[@meheecan123]

❤​@@GameKnight404

[@paperprince2953]

Connections between Iblis & Hirudegarn: 2 giant, mythical Gods who were originally part of something greater (Hirudegarn was originally sealed inside of a statue and meant to purify peoples hearts while Iblis was apart of Solaris before getting separated after getting experimented on) after they experienced events caused by evil acts (Hirudegarn being transformed by the Kashvar sorcerers to become a phantom majin and Solaris being separated accidentally by the Duke of Soleanna and became a destructive being) they would be the cause of destruction of all life on the planet they were on. They were then sealed inside of someone of great status in order to prevent their destruction from happening (Tapion and Elise). They were opposed by 2 hopeful teens from the past/future who were the keys to their demise and were the last of their kind to truly stand up to the monsters (Blaze/Silver and Tapion/Minotia). In present times, the main cast were manipulated by someone who acted good and seemed to want to destroy the monsters when in reality they wanted to release the monsters so they can merge back together into their true form and cause ultimate destruction all over again (Mephiles tricking everyone in order to merge with Iblis to become Solaris once again and Hoi manipulating everyone so the 2 halves of Hirudegarn can join back together). When all hope seems lost, the main heroes pull out one last trump card to defeat the monsters once and for all (Blaze seals Iblis inside of her and orders Silver to take her to another dimension, and is successful and just to make sure when that failed to destroy Solaris for good, Sonic and Elise blow out Solaris in the past after a long hard battle, and Tapion seals Hirudegarn inside of himself and orders trunks to kill him, when trunks refused the plan failed and at the last second Goku turns super saiyan 3 and uses the dragon fist to pierce Hirudegarn which turns him to stone). The connections between E-102 Gamma and Android 16 are that they are mechanical robots created by evil geniuses (Dr. Eggman and Dr. Gero) for their most popular series of mechanical fighters (E-Series and Androids) to bring world domination and getting their vengeance of the spikey haired main protagonist that ruined their plans (Sonic and Goku). Despite being built for combat, both are hardly seen fighting in their respective series, as both of them would find a great curiosity for the life of living beings, and eventually turned to the side of good. When changing their side of morality, they would go on to help the heroes to prevent the antagonists of their stories conquer/destroy the world. Even though they contrast as to how their actions involving their mechanical siblings are (Android 16 being allies and always fought beside Android’s 17 and 18, whereas E-102 Gamma having turned on E-101, E-103, E-104 and E-105 to free their captured animals), both would give it their all by going solo to defeat the ones created to be superior to them (E-101 Alpha Mk. II and Cell, respectfully), eventually being put out of commission because of them. It was because of their influences as characters that not only proves that even robots have souls in them, but their actions also helped one of the most looked down upon characters become stronger as they continue with their own adventures (E-102 Gamma with Amy, allowing her to become more independent and actually fight alongside Sonic & Co., and Android 16 with Gohan, who’s death enraged him to become stronger to save the world). Syn Shenron & Chaos Metal Sonic and Cell The grandest and most prized creations of mad scientists hellbent on killing a main protagonist with golden super forms out of spite (Sonic the Hedgehog and Son Goku).They were made as perfect lifeforms. With their sole purpose, their whole existence, being made to be better than others (Metal was made to be a better version of Sonic in everyway, while Cell was made to be a perfect being above all others in everyway). Because of their purpose, they’d grow a massive superiority complex based around them literally being made to be perfect (Metal grew a complex based around him having to be a better version of Sonic, and that he was a failure as a thing in existence if he wasn’t better than him in everyway, while Cell grew a complex upon finally struggling against someone and realizing that he may not be the skit perfect being in the world, which directly goes against his philosophy of being perfect above the entire universe). They have been betrayed as arrogant, yet nigh-unstoppable killing machines who couldn’t be matched. However, they eventually met their match by ironically the same person they were made to destroy (Sonic and Goku). They would challenge Sonic and Goku at their own game (speed and combat). They get more powerful by advancing into higher forms by absorbing other inorganic things into their mass (Metal gets stronger by absorbing either data or metal objects, while Cell gets stronger by absorbing other androids ((specifically #17 and #18)) and also copying opponent’s techniques).

[@TramiNguyen-oi3kp]

Both

[@PK_SNESS]

Sonic took inspiration from Dragon Ball but that doesn't exactly mean "copying" it. Both are pretty different franchises despite their similarities and that's always fine by me. Cool video Mugru.

[@MugiMallard]

Oh, of course. People always try to say one copied the other and my point with the video was to prove that nothing was copied, it's just inspiration.

[@PK_SNESS]

@@MugiMallard I'm aware, just a tldw to the comment section lol

[@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734]

Idk about that; you can only show so much inspiration before your your art crosses the boundaries into plagiarism, and it can be heavily argued that parts of the sonic franchise are a bit too derivative of DBZ.

[@Justaguyontheinternet84]

7 dragon balls 7 emeralds super saiyan and then super Sonic wouldn’t that be basically what palworlds doing with Pokémon?

[@Chriso22]

It's very obvious who was inspired by who first which Is dragon ball inspired sonic but you can argue that the later transformations in dragon ball super were inspired by sonic

[@BritBox777]

I mean, can we also point out Knuckles and Piccolo/Kami are the last known members of their race, both living on a floating island, watching over the magic artifacts? I meaaaaan, c'mooon.

[@Yuli_Ban]

Last known members of their race until we realize "Oh wait, no they aren't"

[@StevenJones851]

And both are Black Codded through Piccolo dosent watch over the Dragon Balls closely unless he's on Kami's Lookout

[@BritBox777]

@@StevenJones851 I always saw Knux as Mexican coded, since his tribe is based on south american natives

[@StevenJones851]

@@BritBox777 mmmmm i can honestly see him being Jamaican or Mexican Codded considering his history and bloodline with his Tribe and his Personality and how he acts

[@StevenJones851]

@@Yuli_Ban does Knuckles have any other members alive in his Race??

[@Ardhamon5000]

Growing up with both the Dragon Ball series and the Sonic series it's definitely interesting seeing how many similarities there are between both series. However I still say that despite all similarities I think it's cool how much they both differ from each other. What I think drew me to both is how rich their lore is and the amount of work is put into both universes as well as how much the characters have resonated with me growing up and how they influenced me. I will say that I also love how you go into how much Dragon Ball has influenced other franchises like Alex Kidd which has heavy connection to Sonic considering both were mascots for Sega competing against Nintendo. I also didn't make that connection with Arale and Mario before but seeing how both run it makes a lot of sense. This was a fun video to watch and I love how well put together this was.

[@Sammy-34079]

Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@Ardhamon5000]

@@Sammy-34079 Cool! Nobody asked for your opinion lol

[@boltthelunarian1405]

Fun Fact: In one of Ian Flynn's Bumblekast episodes from some time ago, he stated that Super Sonic 2's Internal Name was Starfall Super Sonic, even though he wasn't sure it was locked in as official. Not to mention, Super Sonic 2 was essentially a codename found within the game's files for Update 3(aka The Final Horizon).

[@Judyhopps-1iq]

Marvel and DC and disney warner bros Hollywood is king👑 and dregan ball is for losers

[@CypherShanilver]

@@Judyhopps-1iq go and get a life you bot

[@Sammy-34079]

@@CypherShanilver Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@CypherShanilver]

@@Sammy-34079 man shut your mouth up hollywood is falling badly and you know it

[@Dan-D-Crusader]

@@Judyhopps-1iqDisney fell off. Inside out 2 is carrying it at the moment and anime is consistent unlike marvel and mc. I’m a fan of both but you trash fans can’t appreciate what other people like

[@dip.918]

There's one tiny detail you missed that I love: in Sonic and the Black Knight, Shadow is represented by Sir Lancelot, and in the multiplayer, Silver is represented by Sir Galahad. In Arthurian legend, Galahad is the bastard son of Lancelot. Vegeta concieved Trunks with Bulma out of wedlock, so if we assume Shadow and Silver are inspired by Vegeta and Trunks respectively, then that's just one more neat connection!

[@czms922]

I never put that together wow

[@TronicSSJ07]

While I don’t think Shadow is Silver’s father, I like the father son dynamic they have in 06 with Shadow being more experienced than Silver.

[@spin08]

I remember hearing from Chaomix that Trunks and Sonic in the SEGASonic arcade games back in the 90s have the same voice actor in Takeshi Kusao. Surge also had influence from 18 albeit in design more than personality. Either way, it's cool that Dragon Ball has so much influence over almost all the media we have now

[@hedgyrblx1280]

Honestly surge reminds me more of kefla

[@Sammy-34079]

Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@JLuisJoni]

I feel it worth mentioning that Shiro Maekawa, one of the writers for Sonic 06, did confirm in a 2018 interview with EmuEmi that Silver himself *was* inspired by Trunks directly, something also stated in a design doc for the game. Also, about Surge, her designer, Mauro Fonseca, has cited Android 18 as an inspiration for her design, alongside the Ashura glitch from Sonic 2. I also always thought it was cool how the concept art for Super Sonic referenced the shot of Goku's first Super Saiyan transformation. Neat stuff. But I also dig that you highlighted the many differences between the two series, really emphasizing that Sonic isn't a copy-paste of Dragon Ball, even with all the influences. Really cool video overall! Side note, love that you sorta redid that thumbnail you made for Geekdom for this one, just with the base forms. And it looks great!

[@MugiMallard]

Yeah, I couldn't get *everything* unfortunately, but those are things I could absolutely include in a follow-up video. And yeah! I loved being able to pay homage to his video. I loved working on it with you guys.

[@JLuisJoni]

@@MugiMallard Hey, you already covered a *ton* with this one alone, so no shame in leaving a few little things out. It was a really fun experience for me too! Crazy to think it's been 7 years already...

[@sonicsaiyan07]

I know Surge and Kit have the Androids' bqckatpry basically but personality and relationship wise, they remind me more of the Universe 6 saiyans. Surge and Caulifla/Kefla being the spicy, punch first types with a harsh disdain of the protagonist and Kit and Kale being the subdued, devoted sidekick with a highly dangerous side buried within.

[@JLuisJoni]

@@sonicsaiyan07 I get where this is coming from, I only wouldn't call Caulifla's feelings about Goku "disdain". It's more like he's the mountain top and she is determined to reach it and go beyond it.

[@Sammy-34079]

Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@Angel-Subspace]

if you ever meet someone who says Sonic is JUST a copy of Dragon Ball for kids then they have most likely never played the games, or they trust those twitter or reddit comments that say that

[@Angel-Subspace]

@@Judyhopps-1iq bro chill

[@EmuEmi]

Great video, Mikey!!

[@Sammy-34079]

Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@Izywik92]

Been a fan of both for as long as I can remember because both of these franchises have so much world building and lovable characters that have become iconic to the world by this point.

[@Sammy-34079]

Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@tylerhendersonjr6587]

It Be So Cool We Had Dragon Ball Z/Sonic The Hedgehog Crossover Game Episode Or Comic

[@blockeontheleafeon]

Super Mario Bros. Z is the closest we'll ever get to that.

[@Sammy-34079]

Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@user-vt6dd4kz5t]

@@Sammy-34079 dragon ball games is exception here.

[@Sammy-34079]

@@user-vt6dd4kz5t well then i will no longer watch a movie ever again if marvel/dc movies die out and video games come in! so bye bye movies then

[@Yuli_Ban]

For as much as everyone wants Super Sonic vs Super Saiyan Goku style Sonic v. DBZ, I've increasingly come around to a desire to see old school Sega Genesis/CD/Saturn-era Classic Sonic cross over with old-school Red Ribbon Army/King Piccolo-era Dragon Ball. There's an aesthetic there that's worth tapping into.

[@lehashura490]

About super sonic 2, it's just a file name according to Ian Flyn it's official name (at least in intern) is starfall super sonic

[@JBarista08]

Going on the Silver and Trunks comparison, has anyone noticed how directly similar the Future trunks saga in Dragon ball Super is to the Story of Sonic! Other similarities I'd make are GUN and Red Ribbon being military organisations that have antagonized the main characters at some point and Dr Gero and Gerald Robotnik being mad scientists

[@Sammy-34079]

Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@brandonwilliams6119]

Very good point on Werehog being more similar Luffy. I’d like to consider Surge as the Kefla or Caulifla of Sonic since she’s supposed to be another rival for him, then again it’s debatable since Blaze comes from the Sol Dimension and she’s kinda like a female Sonic in her own way. I’ve seen fan art of Rouge dressed up as Android 18 and honestly I think Rouge could work as her but it could be a stretch.

[@MegaGeek-gr6ts]

I believe it's been stated by Sonic's creators as well as Maekawa (Sonic Adventure 2's writer) that Sonic has taken influence off of Dragon Ball, but also various other Shonen manga and anime.

[@Sammy-34079]

Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@PAP888]

Forgot to mention sonics God of Destruction Big the cat. Both franchises have big purple cats that fo nothing lol.

[@TopHatOnline]

And before Beerus, Chaos is the ancient God of Destruction.

[@SimulatedGoat]

Johnny1iq: *Used flamebait* It's not very effective

[@Sammy-34079]

@@SimulatedGoat Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@vegito_the1]

In the dbs Goku black arc, trunks did attempt to kill Goku when going back to the past

[@gizmoray721]

Both Sonic and Goku Black had dramatic shots in front of fire in relation to Silver and Trunks respectively. I wouldn't be surprised if that's coincidental, but it's a fun thing to point out

[@MacUser2-il2cx]

It'd be great if Shonen Jump had a manga crossover with Sonic meeting Goku and challenging each other.

[@Judyhopps-1iq]

Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@chillihog1543]

Glad Sonic Team ain't shying away from taking inspiration from DB. We now got Super Sonic 2 for Frontiers so can't wait for f**king Super Sonic 3 next or another new transformation for Sonic n possibly his gang too in a few years lol

[@Sammy-34079]

Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@chillihog1543]

Bro either trolling or coping lol? Still tho agree that anime video games are mid but anime is still better than the western side. However tho, not for long since Sony n Disney is looking to censor n "modernization" anime so even anime is going to be ruin like how western entertainment is doing now. Disney with soulless remakes, LB being allergic to money n put out with failures like Suicide Squad/cancelling potentially good shows n movies/etc, Sony with Madam Mid/Vemon, and more Sweet Baby Inc boring ass writing for triple A games. Only western side that may improve is Marvel since they stated that they will release less movies n tv shows for the future so fans can breathe n the team can create quality (Which good, especially after the downwards quality they done once Endgame was over). Still have to wait n see for Deadpool n Wolverine.

[@MTHMalik]

Me personally I think sonic team just got some inspiration from dragon ball 🤷‍♂️

[@JBarista08]

Exactly and I think Yujj Naka once admitted to being a fan of dragon ball

[@Davidgotbored]

@@JBarista08 but he's in jail now :(

[@AquaBlueTea]

@@Davidgotboredno he isn’t

[@Davidgotbored]

@@AquaBlueTea wait i think he was

[@Davidgotbored]

@@AquaBlueTea well he left sega a while back so we dont talk about him anymore

[@Tailsdude22]

Props to our man Ian Flynn being a fan of the db franchise and getting to display love for it through sonic.

[@citrusreality64]

​@Johnny1iq okay but what about tokusatsu (Godzilla ultraman power rangers)

[@ghoulchan7525]

​@@citrusreality64 it's a spam bot

[@mraltoid19]

7:11 - I wish you mentioned that the Chaos Emeralds are more like the Infinity Stones from the Marvel Universe. Each Useful on their own, and when gathered together, it kinda does what both Dragon Balls and Chaos Emeralds do, the Infinity Stones can both give immense power and grant a wish with said immense power.

[@ladiesman217__2]

Piccolo and Gohan's relationship being compared to Sonic and Tails by artist Judy Totoya really caught me by surprise. But i can really see that tbh.

[@dragonballmaster5324]

I have tell you that in the original dragonball before z the dragonball were all one giant dragonball but it split up into seven to make it harder for any villain to get their hands on the dragonball 8:54

[@Sammy-34079]

Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@Kiezly]

Another DBZ reference is in Sonic Frontiers some of the combat moves literally look like DBZ Ki blasts. Especially Cross Slash.

[@Purpleplains7000]

I actually like that the Hedgehog can't go super without the 7 chaos emeralds most of his traits I see in a certain black swordsman who I don't hate.

[@FrenchFryVR-2022]

19:19 His name is actually “Grand Master Super Sonic”

[@kimyoung118]

Why do I think it’s funny that I like Dragon Ball, Z and sonic

[@rudolphdouglas6765]

I kind of get the comparison for werehog, but to me its partly like SSJ4 with dark power and a glimpse of super for his Unleash gauge.

[@treythornton19]

I personally like both Dragon Ball and Sonic, these two are my favorites when I was a kid. They have in common with each other, and I enjoyed them very much. 🧡💙

[@Blonder_Studio]

i dont think sonic has neccessarily copied DBZ its just that Sonic was Hella inspired by DBZ but also put some spins into the characters to not make it too much of a clone and make it original, i have to say that the idea of having to have specific objects to be able to transform or in other words the idea of the chaos emeralds, is Genius and i like how different that is from DBZ where they can simply go SSJ at will (i've even take inspiration from the chaos emeralds for my game)

[@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734]

Dude, I don’t know if it’s intentional or not, but you actually sound like a sonic character!

[@AJKC-kr6wh]

Sometimes, he sounds like Jason’s sonic

[@Gogetablueyt]

Mugi you mean for sonic he became faster than he was already was

[@Purpleplains7000]

Rean Schwarzer's silver haired transformation from Tloh Trails of cold steel might of taken inspiration too there aswell as the Supersonic Hedgehog Super Saiyan.

[@Kiezly]

The Namekians and the Echidnas are very similar to each other.

[@bobybisminusthesecondb5233]

Damn I thought you only did animations on youtube but this a nice surprise. Great video

[@megareavermickeybot7985]

sOMETHING I've been wanting to do is create a complimentary tripplete. Which is to say I want to create a series that takes insporation from both Dragon Bal and Sonic and make refrences to both. not just the obvios shared traits but also experiment with ideas more exlusive to either. For example Goku has an evil brother named Raditz. Ashura is a fan charecter who' is a hedgehog that resembles Surges long before the tenric or even scourge where ever around. sOME RUMORS CLAIM he was Sonic's evil older brother but he was never made cannon. For the most part this was only due to glitch in one of the games. something simular to how some fan artists came up with Eggette due to an upsidedown pixelsprite of Eggman's face looking like a little girl. In Sonic Under Ground Sonic is one of 3 royal trippletes that must unite with their long lost Mother to over throw Robotnic. MasakoX is someone who workede with Team FourStar and has recently been makin alot of what if's Not only has he done what if RADITZ turned good, but he also did wHAT IF gINEH THE Mother of Goku went to Earth with him. As we all know Gineh died on Planet Veegeta. If I was to make my own series with my own charecters, I'd want to include elements like this, the idea of the main charecters having siblings, one of which being an evil older brother who could turn good and the idea that their Mother somehow survived a terrible fate. It would be a tad complicated when we get into how Dragon Ball and Sonic parralels contridict one another. Like how the Dragon Balls are useless individualy while the Emeralds still hold use even when on their own. Obviosly their's also the matter of having 7 of the same thing, but the Dragon Balls like this man stone balls and the Emeralds are literaly Gems filled with ancient power. The Dragon BALLS sUMMON AN eTERNAL Dragon. The Chaos Emeralds have a counterpart in the form of the Master Emerald but their is no link where the loss of the Master Emerald would ever affect the Chaos Emeralds. However tHE LOSS OF kAMI does make the Dragon Balls Enert and the loss of the Master Emerald does cause Angle Island to fall from the sky. So you have a figure or relic of high importance that coems with a cost if lost or removed. Also Chaos and Dragon. One is a concept of lack of Order yet it's emeralds are used for power. Dragon is literal a mythical creatures and the Balls are used to sumon one that can grant a wish or wishes. And going back the Dragon Balls being useless on their own. The Dark Dragon Arch from GT did involes a dark Dragon for each indiviual Dragon Ball. In siumluar fashion there was an idea for a porject for sonic where Eggman would atympt to use the Chaos emeralds in one of his machine and he accidently releases 6 evil beings. This idea was later reused for the Zeti in Lost world except they never escaped the Dragon Balls so they don't count. Still imagine if you had 7 relics that had something trapped inside and when gathered together they did something verry crucial to the plot that made them worth hunting for.

[@funwithbj7035]

During my crisis of “is sonic a copy of dragon ball” I learned that all fiction or almost all fiction got there inspiration from something like for example if journey to the west didn’t exist dragon ball wouldn’t exist if dragon ball didn’t exist Sonic wouldn’t exist if Sonic didn’t exist so many other video games or movies wouldn’t exist

[@randomposts3870]

Also it was confirmed that there was never a connection between the dragon ball and chaos emerald s 😂

[@madnessarcade7447]

6:35 sounds a lot closer to infinity stones then dragon balls

[@spoodyR3]

Yeah Goku never used the dragon balls to go super sayain the way sonic needs to use the chaos emeralds to even achieve that form

[@sonicfoamyfan9805]

Odd how you didnt mention how Surge and Kit were inspired/similar to Androids 17 and 18

[@MugiMallard]

This (along with a few other things) I didn't get to include as I just wanted to include the really big things. I could always make a little follow-up though!

[@Sammy-34079]

Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@saberspriteanimator6385]

Even today , It's crazy for me seeing all those similarities. While I'm more fan of Sonic, I'm starting to get into Dragon Ball

[@Sammy-34079]

Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@saberspriteanimator6385]

@@Sammy-34079 what does that have to do with my comment? Also , no , anime videogames are better

[@kaloriommati6933]

What/How about Angel-Island and Kami's lookout as a home for the seven-stones featured... and how about other similarities with other stories like Power-Stones... there is even a fighter there with a super-form by the way; so it is not only Sonic and Goku but that fighter and there is also a samurai that has a super-form too in some old samurai game...

[@darthvader473]

Considering that Sonic was inspired by Dragon Ball, I can see why.

[@CypherShanilver]

Thank you for saying the difference between copying and inspiration

[@CypherShanilver]

@@Judyhopps-1iq nobody asked

[@CypherShanilver]

@@Judyhopps-1iq man dragon ball is for legends disney and marvel are even falling off this year and you didn't even spell dragon ball right

[@sonicsaiyan07]

Going back to Chris in Sonic X's Metarex Saga being like Goku becoming a kid again in GT, the whole Metarex Saga, at least the foundation, is also the same as the Black Star Dragon Ball Saga what with the primary macguffins being blasted off into space and our heroes having to traverse the galaxy to find them again before disaster strikes their home.

[@Numocron]

Awesome video MugiMikey😃👍❤️

[@Sammy-34079]

Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@hellfireproductions4173]

I grew up with the Sonic series, so I’m definitely bias. Although, I have started to watch through the original Dragon Ball anime recently, and I am enjoying it so far.

[@COZMICETERNITY]

Personally i dont get the hate for the chaos emerald abilities in Superstars? Imean they clearly seem to be some kinda of chaos control abilities! For instance the Yellow Emeralds “slow down” ability is LITERALLY just a weaker version of Chaos Controls Time Stop! The Blue Avatar, in sonic frontiers when sonic is fighting as Super Sonic we do see him spawn “avatars” of sorts in one of his moves! Green Ivy, the emeralds in the Sonic 1 ending were shown to affect plant life! Purple Vision, in Sonic 06, and this one IS a bit of a stretch, the purple emerald was shown to show people visions, for instance Mephilis showed Silver and Blaze the vision of Sonic again that one is totally a stretch but yaknow! Red Bullet, again another stretch since the boost has become a mainstay, but in sonic mania (and superstars) we know Super Sonic has a bullet like ability where he fires off in whatever direction you send him (at the cost of ten rings) Ive got nothing for Cyan Water But another stretch for Silver Extra amy gets the hammer throw abilities while probably not canon in Superstars either super or hyper amy has the same ability? either way as generic as some of these seem this is just how i like to think of things! :)

[@Sammy-34079]

Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@JuIy_VR]

Sonic And Goku are both Japanese. Sonic is a Japanese Video Game And Dragonball Z is a Japanese TV Show. So The Developers of Sonic The Hedgehog Probably Took Inspiration From Dragonball Z Because They Are Both Japanese⚡️✨

[@HeroTheHedgehog999]

I feel like a lot of people do this and out Sonic in a negative light. It’s been a problem for years.

[@Sammy-34079]

Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@mraltoid19]

21:22 - Dragon Ball Evolution ?

[@WUSITME]

I might be crazy, but wasn't there something regarding a statement about how Silver's backstory and personality was pretty much Trunks from DBZ. Not worded exactly, but I remember seeing this somewhere

[@user-os3vo4rh2x]

There is a big difference because trunks mostly is in the past while silver is always seen in the present after sonic 06 a a another difference is that silver was manipulated to kill sonic but trunks had only done good

[@user-os3vo4rh2x]

Sorry I mean future timeline

[@WUSITME]

@user-os3vo4rh2x I meant like an official statement from someone at SEGA. Also trunks is technically always in the future, but with trunks being in a different timeline entirely whereas Silver is in the same one as Sonic

[@WUSITME]

@Johnny1iq lol I wish, but a majority of the recent games about marvel DC and Disney haven't been very good outside of a couple. Kinda like anime video games lol

[@chaosspider5765]

I heard that Super Sonic having green eyes in Sonic 3 was actually a colour pallette oversight, and not actually intentional

[@maniakk3563]

The "7 dragon balls" and "seven chaos emeralds" thing, while they're different, only really share the fact that you need 7 of them because 7 is seen as a complete number in the bible, or in Japanese culture, 7 is a "lucky" number because buddhism

[@SlisaArtzSA]

Awesme video as always mikey!!

[@Sammy-34079]

Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@sonicsaiyan07]

While Shadow is simikar to Vegeta in terms of role in the plot, personality wise he always seemed more akin to Hiei of Yu Yu Hakusho fame to me, mostly because unlike Vegeta who's motivated by his rivalry with Goku, Sonic doesn't matter much to Shadow. They respect each other, butt heads on occasion but are otherwise their personal stories are independent of each other.

[@majoraswrath2645]

Just to make it clear, SEGA confirmed that each separate emerald power is EXCLUSIVE to the Northstar Islands from Sonic Superstars So yes, each individual emerald is indeed useless on their own without Chaos Control

[@SpaceMonke2010]

When i was the age of 7-10 sonic was my favorite out of it and dbz but now it’s probably dbz

[@SpaceMonke2010]

@@Judyhopps-1iqmavel and dc casually realising video games

[@tlst94]

What if in an alternate timeline, copyright laws prevented homages and inspirations? How'd Sonic have been like without Dragon Ball influences? Imagine growing up in that parallel universe. How'd you have thought of that from your altered memories, experiences, and POVs?

[@Sonicanimatior]

What about hyper sonic and ui Goku ?

[@SonicXDuc]

Good job,Mikey

[@ataladin87]

I always though that Sonic Unleashed felt more like One piece than just another DBZ trope like story.

[@shariqhasan6220]

I wouldn't say Sonic copied Dragon Ball but rather Sonic took inspiration from it. Some concepts are indeed similar but different enough to not be considered the same as Dragon Ball.

[@Genesisrabbit]

Honestly I love both Series. Sonic and Dragon ball are amazing. that being said I can't see Sonic being based around Piccolo in ANY way, I feel that is fake. Also their not copying each other, it's more inspired then anything if you ask me. I just feel both are their own thing and are both amazing in their own rights.

[@Je-S1001]

I’m surprised you didn’t mention that Piccolo and Knuckles both got usurped by Vegeta and Shadow as the main character’s main rival.

[@AquaBlueTea]

Coincidence

[@Bloxheader01]

The weird thing about sonic is he has gokus personality but piccolo and kid gohans relation ship

[@Terashi]

Comic book storylines are not congruent to video game storylines. MatPat made this mistake in his Chaos Emerald video for Game Theory and I haven't watched a single one of those since. Also, 19:13 ...did SEGA just FORGET about Hyper Sonic?

[@spiderzilla7o7]

guess yuji naka was a hard core fan hehe

[@GildheartYT]

bro land grim gate mount olympus is a!ways packed

[@MugiMallard]

lmao

[@pinstripecool34]

Who else remembers the flash series super mario bros Z??

[@delaware5407]

It's confirmed the chaos emeralds weren't based on the dragon balls

[@MrMartellSincere]

I love Sonic The Hedgehog and dragon ball

[@Zolothepug]

Then hyper sonic inspired gear 5

[@SSJ_BEYOND_EVERYTHING]

Hyper sonic: 1993 Ultra instinct:: 2017/2018 Gear 5: 2022/2023/2024

[@macrognsqd]

goku in fortnite looks special needs

[@percebus]

The Chaos emeralds are more akin to infinity stones

[@Employed_Demon]

Super sonic 2? I don't think that name fits, cyber corruption/starfall super sonic name makes sense.

[@pugobits5088]

Why do you sound like patmac

[@Sammy-34079]

Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@pugobits5088]

@@Sammy-34079 shut up

[@TramiNguyen-oi3kp]

Sonic the Hedgehog meets Dragon Ball Z crossover

[@TramiNguyen-oi3kp]

@@Judyhopps-1iq why?

[@Sjono]

Don’t tell me that of all the hair colors the Saiyans could have when achieving a form that surpassed SSG it just coincidentally happened to be blue

[@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734]

It was a coincidence..

[@Sammy-34079]

Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@madnessarcade7447]

Ppl should learn the difference between inspiration and imitation

[@TYLERGMG]

No way you blatantly said Goku isn't the textbook definition of a hero. Goku quite literally came back from the afterlife to save his son twice, left the living universe for a hope that no other villains would come and hurt him and his friends. You say Goku actively puts people in danger for his own fulfillment which is definitely some bs you got off tik tok. Raditz came looking for him and he sacrificed his life just to stop him. Went to namek to revive his friends from the previous arc. Sacrificed himself for the sake of the earth, his friends, and the universe against cell. He never put himself and his friends in jeopardy for his own interests. You can only argue the T. O. P which wasn't his choice to decide the fates of the other universes. You saying Goku let's countless villains power up is cherry pickin. He never let raditz power up, he was too weak to stop vegeta, Vegeta let cell power up not Goku, Goku was too weak to stop buu from transforming plus he wasn't present in the arc most of time buu went through a transformation, Beerus never powered up, hit never powered up, Goku black never powered up and fused zamasu was to strong plus he was weak, He had to charge up to contend with kefla, Jiren's energy overwhelmed him so he couldn't stop him, broly was too strong, He tried to turn Moro back good, and gas was already powered up to be the strongest in the universe and never powered up, and for freiza in RoF he underestimated frezia's power and namek saga he wanted to beat freiza at full power because he was mad at frieza for killing krillin. Goku never was selfish and saved the world plenty of times not because of his selfish interests and he had too which he had too either way but Goku never did what he did out of selfish ways but if You dickride a mistake a character (especially Goku) makes once and shove the false narrative that that was always his character and either means you didn't watch the show or you didn't watch the show

[@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734]

You say, as if he didn’t allow Frieza to power up to his max power on a dying namek, reject bulma’s offer to kill Dr Gero before he could finish creating the androids, and give Cell (A callous monster who is capable of receiving zenkai boosts) A FUCKING SENZU BEAN before he fought his pre teen son.. Look, I love pre-super Goku, as much as the next non vegeta fanboy, but let’s be honest; he was never an outstanding hero, even in the original English dub’s portrayal of his character.

[@Eminster]

Bro is angry

[@inksinkanimates8921]

@@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 Can't forget that bro really spared Frieza 😭

[@spoodyR3]

Goku isn’t a do gooder or a super hero, however one thing not mentioned was that goku isn’t selfish he puts his family and friends before himself that’s all if an innocent bystander is there Goku would prefer they leave and would put himself in harms way to protect them but he’s not doing good for goodness sake only to protect his family and friends it ends there

[@Fvkzxro]

Goku has literally said he doesn’t see himself as a hero

[@Chris80510]

You forgot to mention knuckles and tails have a super form though

[@Sammy-34079]

Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@user-qf5fj3mk8e]

You forgot to mention that Powered Up Super Sonic (This is how Super Sonic 2 is called in the official image) is also inspired by Ultra Instinct, as Sonic is completely calm and focused in it.

[@Sammy-34079]

Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@JoesMama-ci3yl]

Why he call him Go-Ku?

[@JoesMama-ci3yl]

@@Judyhopps-1iq idk man, they got some pretty bad bitches over here.

[@Hiperblade1999]

Personality i despise the comparisons between both franchises

[@Sammy-34079]

Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@Hiperblade1999]

@@Sammy-34079 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqauq6dtpZKApK8si=-7Cb5UoUfDu-NjVP

[@Uchidaful]

Dragon Ball= Father

[@phantommyst1933]

13:13 Unless you include the black saga

[@inksinkanimates8921]

Sonic 06 literally came out YEARS before DBS was ever even made lol 06 means 2006

[@shaknoormohamed4813]

Silver is 14 I think

[@sonic7383]

I got introduce to dragon ball and sonic in 2010 i was 8

[@Sammy-34079]

Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@AwijoshSun]

Comparing Vegeta and Shadow does a disservice to both characters, and I'm tired of seeing it

[@SsjMGS]

I’m glad goku changed sonic forever because super sonic is super op all thanks to goku and his forms❤

[@delaware5407]

Super Sonic 2 isn't an official name, it's called "Awakened Super Sonic" or "Starfall Super Sonic"

[@SsjMGS]

Awakened super sonic sounds pretty op than superior.

[@delaware5407]

@@Judyhopps-1iq Absolutely no relation.

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

Oh Boy.

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

@@Judyhopps-1iq You're insane especially for a goddam bot this is criminal.

[@Sammy-34079]

@@danteshollowedgrounds Anime Video games are trash Disney Warner bros Marvel Dc is better! hollywood is better!

[@Judyhopps-1iq]

@@danteshollowedgrounds Listen up, kiddo. First off, let's get one thing straight. The Mario movie? Trash. And the new one coming? Don't even get me started. It's gonna be a dumpster fire. But you know what's really bad? Sega. That company is garbage, let me tell you. Marvel and DC are leagues above them. Their characters lack depth, their stories are unoriginal, and their games are downright lazy. So yeah, Nintendo sucks. Marvel and DC are the true kings of entertainment.

[@destridax]

Great video but I can't get over how you say Goku 😂

[@psebb3502]

i dont even care about power scaling or seeing who wins, any and all goku vs sonic fights are the shit to watch, especially the sprite animations.

[@Jamesentmt]

Super sonic 2 can not be compared to SSJ2. Starfall super sonic can only be done during the events of Frontiers

[@Abner-gu3ve]

Good lord can yall Dragon Ball fans shut up? Sonic took a few things inspired from Dragon Ball and now y’all think the entire franchise is based around Dragon Ball