How Dumbledore DEFEATED Grindelwald (5 Theories)

[@HarryPotterTheory]

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[@WolverineMRD]

I know this isn't related to this video but I have a question if you don't mind. We all know that the Quill Of Acceptance and The Book Of Admittance are responsible for registering students into hogwarts, in Tom Riddle's case (an orphan) his mother gave birth to him in the orphanage and gave him a name which was known to the people who worked there (Tom Marvolo Riddle), but what if we were talking about an orphan who's origins are not really known? An orphan given a name at the orphanage but no surname, will the Quill or the Book be able to figure out the surname? What would be even written in the book? Will the Quill or the Book be able to know the origins of this orphan? Their true family or lineage? What would happen in this case? Please answer me, I'm really dying to know, and if you don't have an answer based on the lore just tell me what you think would happen, I would love to hear your opinions and thank you in advance for your answers, personally I think that the Quill will be able to know what the orphan's surname is or to which family they belong. What do you think?

[@OrdinaryMan1999-tn4hh]

To me the "Cop-out" theory is likely the most plausible all things considered. Voldemort used his full abilities with the Elder Wand and even he with all of his cunning and understanding he did not know for certain if he was it's true master. Grindlewald will likely not realize that flaw in the Wand's power until after his defeat at the hands of Dumbledore.

[@kaywire6099]

I don’t get why they didn’t just make fantastic beasts a standalone movie and then make a dumbledore trilogy so you can focus on that story without it being bogged down by unnecessary characters and plot lines.

[@Weathernerd27]

The real problem with fantastic beasts is poor plot/lack of character development. They didn't take the time to write a good script, they just used the small pieces of information in the Deathly Hallows book added a bunch of special effects and hoped the Harry Potter reputation would carry it. I liked the Harry Potter series alot but Fantastic Beasts bored me so I didn't bother to see the whole series. You can make one movie based on special effects but for a series you need a good story.

[@piusdoe8984]

There is no one way this should have been done. Anything works with great writing and great writing is not easy.

[@rickywebb1803]

Me and my gf say this all the time like fantastic beasts could be a trilogy maybe for people who just want to see cute little creatures or even for people who aren’t major fans And the Dumbledore movies could be for the bigger Harry Potter fans with a lot more action scenes

[@CodeMars9]

@@rickywebb1803this exactly!

[@lnsflare1]

Dumbledore: "Dance Off, bro." Grindlewald: "... *You're on.* "

[@masterassassin1693]

Love the video man. Your really good at finding things in this story to tear apart and pick out the most minuet details and making the fantastic theories.

[@BenjaminKeenan-y3u]

I like how you gave a classification system of 0 to 100 for Grindelwald, Dumbledore, and Voldemort. I am extremely interested in hearing a video on your taking this line of thinking further. What would Severus Snape score? Since he was creating spells, and was an extremely talented wizard. Minerva McGonnagal? Mad Eye Moody? Bellatrix Lestrange? Etc. hope to see this in the near future! Thank you for your continued content!

[@Dragondan1987]

I’m from the category he pulled a good old Godrick Griffindor move, and mid duel just threw a punch, kick, or a good old English headbutt (which could explain albus’ broken nose, because that is a risky move at the best of times) and it was such a muggle move old grindy just got thrown off his game completely and lost.

[@megaham1552]

That would work tbf

[@jp_eight3]

Albus had his nose broken by Aberforth at Ariana’s funeral.

[@katiebugg7018]

I love this idea so much. I’m not even gonna point out. We already know how we got the broken nose. OK fine I did. I’m just that much of a nerd though.😂 nothing wrong with a little Muggle dueling. That’s what I was most upset to see didn’t get put in the movies Harry, and one of the twins, jumping Draco, Mr. Weasley and Mr. Malfoy, fighting in the bookstore ,Neville Trying to attack Draco, kreture bashing dung over the head to make him talk😂

[@electricheartpony]

Johnny Depp's grindelwald is best

[@le_Malicieux]

That's True but Mads Mikkelsen is not bad 👌

[@Mr.NorwegianMarcus]

​@@le_Malicieux 100%, Mads is fine and worked with what he got, and can't be blamed for the execs pushing out Johnny Either way it doesn't break the lore seeing as good old Waldy seems to change his looks every time we see him I just like to imagine his true form is what Dumbledore saw in the mirror (Johnny)

[@manonthemoon692]

It’s such a shame that we will never see this duel between Dumbledore and Grindelwald on the big screen

[@Jamesbull46]

One might say almost criminal

[@Poggy]

they only would have screwed it up, anyway.

[@velocityhdx_]

Why? Did it get canceled?

[@spi6455]

Amanda Heard caused them to recast Johnny Depp's character, so some boycotted for that reason. Some boycotted because JK Rowling made statements that hurt the LGBT narrative and they found offensive. In short, viewership was down and Hollywood decided to screw over all the fans ... just like they do on most good series.

[@tobiasgregori3842]

Probably for the best.

[@Kitz419]

Death is the true owner of the Elder wand. Notice how all it’s “owners” die… 😂 the true owner of the Wand will never know defeat… that is Death my friends. Only death will never know defeat. It’s doesn’t matter who has the wand, death is always the winner of your duel. Your own death or your opponent’s.

[@AustynSN]

I've thought for a long while that was the reason Harry truly earned the wand's loyalty. When he got up in the forest after willingly taking Voldemort's "Avada Kedavra", the wand saw that Harry had actually defeated its true master, Death.

[@alberthaystowniiijd2821]

One must accept death to own it. Tom could not accept death. Hence, the horcruxs were in play until Harry, and Company found them subsequently destroying them. If Tom was a 90; then is Harry a 91, 92, 93, 94, or a 95?

[@andrasylvan9915]

I honestly think Dumbledore won over Grindelwald because not only he was skilled enough, but also because, at that time, he would be filled with feelings of remorse for his sister's death. Combine that with his love for her and the will to perhaps make things right. That lead him to victory.

[@Mackedo5]

I think Skeeter got it partially correct. I think Grindelwald did surrender, but only after a prolonged and brutal fight. My head canon (supported by Grindelwald showing remorse in prison) is that he actually did overpower Dumbledore, but rather than kill a man he still loved, he surrendered. He realized what he had become, who he was about to kill, and stopped himself at the brink of no return. Just my thoughts.

[@warrengouldthorpe5091]

I do wish they make the 4th and 5th fantastic beasts films but one can dream

[@Masterjediwizard]

I'm right behind you on that

[@megaham1552]

Might happen someday, it's only put on hold for now

[@SM0RN124]

I think this deserves a whole movie to itself

[@davidkennedy8929]

The first cop out scenario is what I’ve always thought. How could Grindlewald be master of the Elder wand when he had stolen it in the first place!

[@richardgoreilly4706]

A combo of first and last. Thanks for pointing out the "I never had it" reference - I have pointed that out to others for quite some time.

[@eliasthienpont6330]

It is clear to me at least that Grindelwald surrendered to Dumbledore, and let us mark that one up to love.

[@jenothemississippianofmand5202]

I think that Grindelwald was more unwilling to hurt/kill Dumbledore, than Dumbledore was willing to stop him. Dumbledore was literally Grindelwald’s weakness. Not because of their magical abilities but because he loved Dumbledore. In the fight we see in Secrets of Dumbledore, Grindelwald easily overpowers him in a prior incantatum, but his expression says it all. Id also like to think that Aberforth also participated in this duel and contributed to Grindelwald’s defeat. But was forgotten.

[@badslime6453]

I hope they truly give the Fantastic Beasts series the love it deserves, there is still 13 years from Secrets of Dumbledore to this Legendary Duel in 1945, we still have Albus meeting Tom Riddle, the Basilisk attacks and 5 years of Albus procrastinating on fighting Grindelwald.

[@itsyaboidragon]

I have always thought that the reason people call it the power of "Love" is because magic comes from a person's will and it is the most powerful set of emotions. Will is defined as "the capability of conscious choice and decision and intention". So this would make sense as to why "Love" is the most powerful magic.

[@user-me7iw6ft8z]

None of the deathly hollows as strong as they say, including the elder wand. Dumbledore was simply more skilled.

[@BWBDCan]

The invisibility cloke seems to be the best of the 3. It hasn't worn down like all others.

[@elijahyoung8116]

It’s sad that we won’t get to see the duel since the Fantastic beasts franchise was canceled

[@lewa9575]

I never watched any of those movies but I was still waiting to see that duel. Honestly a huge shame. I heard the first one was good though so I need to watch it sometime.

[@kaywire6099]

⁠the first fantastic beasts movies is definitely worth the watch, I wouldn’t bother with the other two though unless you just want to see the cool visual effects.

[@elijahyoung8116]

In my personal opinion the main reason I’ve grown to love the movies is because the actors blend so well with their characters

[@Dragondan1987]

@@lewa9575they are pretty good. I feel if WB hadn’t pulled that crap with Johnny Depp, it would of made enough money for the last 1 or 2 movies.

[@soph.studios21]

And they didn’t even make a whole lot of money off of it in the trilogy because I think everyone’s mad with Johnny Depp being gone in the franchise.

[@ethans9379]

I think the "love" and "outclassed" theories hold the most water, tbh

[@AustynSN]

My head canon is sort of a combination of multiple of these. I think that while they started the duel in earnest, the love between them caused them both to falter in their attacks on each other. Grindelwald dropped his wand hand, (with the wand still in it) and the elder wand, sensing Grindelwald's "weakness" and the presence of a power greater than itself (love), went wild, attacking both wizards in some way. Dumbledore turned against the wand, trying to capture it while Hagrid dragged an injured Grindelwald to safety. Dumbledore managed to take hold of the wand and will it down, earning its loyalty. Hagrid's saving of Grindelwald is what earned him Dumbledore's eternal trust.

[@doubleupload5620]

Since grindwld had the elderwand and couldn’t lose I think dumbledore just brought a gun and shot him then picked up the wand when he was crying in the floor

[@FallenDcd]

you should do an episode with how muggles throughout the wizarding worlds history came across or some how found out in some way that the wizarding world exists or a witch or wizard revealed to a muggle that the world exists, idk it's just something that seems really interesting to ponder.

[@bailatwerski2951]

Very Very Detailed and Interesting theories 😊

[@rickywebb1803]

I’ve always figured theory 1 was what happened but if you think about it the wand maker (I can’t spell his name) most likely wasn’t the master either he didn’t seem like the dueling type so he most likely obtained the wand by just buying it from someone who didn’t know what they had or stole it too

[@BjornV1994]

I think it is combination of being outclassed and the Elder Wand's possible tendency to constantly be looking for better witches and wizards to be wield by, acting on this when this better candidate presents themselves. When Dumbledore and Grindelwald met for their duel, the Elder Wand might have instinctively known that Dumbledore's potential is higher than Grindelwald, who might already have reached his ceiling at this point. So it became curious who would win without its extra help. Hence it attuned itself to Dumbledore's wand potential so the victor would be truely the more powerful wizard and worthy of wielding it. I believe the Elder Wand allows it master to be conquered if they are either at the end of their life, having reached their maximum potential or if they are up against someone who has more potential to reach greater magical heights. Being careless, like allowing the wand to be stolen or being disarmed in simple ways, however does sever the wands loyality completely as an unforgivable sign of weakness and the only thing the new owner have to do, is show the bare minimum of being better by punishing the previous owner (defeating them in whatever way, death certainly is a possibility but the wand doesn't demand it).

[@kmk21089]

Please take a longer pause after punctuations. Loving these vids and they are otherwise perfect to fall asleep to but the lack of a break between sentences is really jarring.

[@rolfgunnemann5172]

I've always thought of the Duel between Dumbledore and Grindelwald being a bit like a Wizarding World version of Anakin and Obi Wan's duel on Mustafar. They knew each other so well that they were able to counter each other and predict each other's moves. Maybe Dumbledore got the high ground?

[@Weathernerd27]

I think Dumbledoor was more powerful and Grindewald knew it. Dumbledoor might not know as much dark magic but there were ways for Grindewald to defeat Dumbledoor without dark magic. The blood pact was a strategic move by Grindewald to keep a more powerful adversary out of the picture. Grindewald was counting on getting a big following behind him. Dumbledoor went along with the blood pact because Grindewald wasn't pure evil and at first Dumbledoor just saw Grindewalds good side.

[@headstrongbachelor3152]

Dumbledore defeated Grindelwald simply because he was more skilled. Grindelwald became owner of the elder wand because he stunned Gregorovitch.

[@chimmyinfernape9189]

My theory is the elder wand works similarly to the mirror of eriset in philosophers stone. That it’s true power can only by someone who wants to own the elder want but not use it. Like it’s a fail safe put into the wand so then someone seeking to be the strongest can gain power but cannot use it against others. It has the power to cast defensive magic and other great feats but cannot use its true power with offensive/dark magic

[@garyalfrey1002]

you wrongly equate power and skill. Case in point dumbledore displays more "skill" in his duel with voldemort in the MoM, Voldemort goes for pure power where as Dumbledore uses a very wide variety of magic to protect himself and harry, while also working to subdue voldemort. Dumbledore while evidently "powerful" is also highly skilled and skill in turn can make up for a lack in raw power (and vice versa, like a person who only has a hammer in their bag of tricks).

[@芦白龙]

It was proven in wizarding theory that Dumblydoor and Grindlywald that their two final d-d-d-d-duel, that eventually sent the pale ape to the shadow realm took place at ground zero at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, it was a ploy constructed by the non-non-mage in America and Britain to exploit the world war and the wizarding war, to manipulate the hoomans to think that Atom bombs are a thing when it was simply just wizards playing with their extending rods that magik splurges out of, facts

[@Kris2005isMine]

I was thinking something along the lines of the last theory, rather akin to the Majin Vegeta effect. The Elder Wand enabled Grindelwald to fight on a comparable level, but he was too far behind Dumbledore, who had spent the last twenty years studying, while Grindelwald had been searching for the Elder Wand and consolidating his base.

[@Harry-Hartmann]

A very Good Video 👍🏻

[@brandonperkins2877]

The Dumbledore Grindelwald Duel never really fascinated me. I’ve always felt the duel between Slytherin and Gryffindor Is the Duel that played the most significant role in wizarding history and is the greatest duel in history.

[@katiebugg7018]

By replacing Johnny Depp, they completely rode out the fact that Dumbledore and Grindelwald are supposed to be the same age, and brought in an actor that looks a decade older than him😂

[@Circleupfl]

True. But I actually prefer the new grindlewald more. That’s probably the only opinion I have that is different than most peoples on the issue

[@katiebugg7018]

@@Circleupfl most movie fans agree with you it’s just the book fans that take issue with rage Dumbledore 😂 I think if I wasn’t book obsessed I’d probably like that Dumbledore gets more unhinged as the plot thickens because , accurate.

[@indatube]

I always said he beat the Elder Wand by Expeliarmus or pickpocketing while distracting him with a discussion or Accio wand or Dumbledore evoked old magic putting himself in harm’s way out of love hoping Grindelvvald loved him enough not to kill him with Avada Kedavra in a gambit that paid off. Either way I’m sure it was anti climatic. The wand is unbeatable head to head or was the instrument used to cast the first Killing curse and Dumbledore is probably the only Wizard in history to not boast and broadcast what he possesses, avoiding conflict and covetousness altogether.

[@bobbynolastname3119]

i would love a book series of albus dumblore's life or a book version of the Fantastic Beasts saga and what wasnt shown.

[@eranshachar9954]

I do not support the first theory. Since we saw Grindelwald was able to control it quite well. I think he was lying to Voldemort when he said that. May I remind you that Harry stole it from Draco in a similar fashion? It worked for him. The love and surrender theories sit well with me the most. In terms of surrender- Super Carlin Brothers theorized that Dumbledore's original wand and the elder wand were twins in core. They think so because Dumbledore is familiar with Priori Incantatem, so much as if it already happened to him before for example in his duel with Grindelwald possibly. So if it's true maybe Grindelwald understood fighting is pointless and surrendered.

[@chikowashere]

I think that they had the same and cores, which would explain why Dumbledore knew about it in book 4 after Harry described what his and Voldemort's wands did. And that's why Dumbledore avoided the duel with him, because he was afraid that he'd see his sister again and have to face her. He blamed himself for her death, and he was afraid that she might come out of his wand. Revealing that not only was her death Dumbledore's fault, but also his own doing.

[@UnclePlaysBadly]

Dumbledore distracted Grindelwald by doing a striptease while dueling.

[@WolverineMRD]

I know this is not related to this video but I have a question if you don't mind. We all know that the Quill Of Acceptance and The Book Of Admittance are responsible for registering students into hogwarts, in Tom Riddle's case (an orphan) his mother gave birth to him in the orphanage and gave him a name which was known to the people who worked there (Tom Marvolo Riddle), but what if we were talking about an orphan who's origins are not really known? An orphan given a name at the orphanage but no surname, will the Quill or the Book be able to figure out the surname? What would be even written in the book? Will the Quill or the Book be able to know the origins of this orphan? Their true family or lineage? What would happen in this case? Please answer me, I'm really dying to know, and if you don't have an answer based on the lore just tell me what you think would happen, I would love to hear your opinions and thank you in advance for your answers, personally I think that the Quill will be able to know what the orphan's surname is or to which family they belong. What do you think?

[@MountainFisher]

I'm over 70 years old and orphanages give surnames to children was the practice before the foster programs began in earnest. If picked for Hogwarts before they are adopted the quill of acceptance would simply change their surname before their Letter is sent out.

[@WolverineMRD]

@@MountainFisher I see, thank you:)

[@Enigmatic21]

I had never considered that Grindelwald was not the true master of the elder wand because Dumbledore clearly became the master of the wand but this makes total sense in how Dumbledore was able to defeat Grindelwald. The question now is how Dumbledore became the master of the elder wand. Disarming Gregorovich at a later date is as good a theory as any.

[@Rnerdy197]

Maybe it's just if you aren't the wands true master it doesn't give a witch or wizard more power

[@marcoh703]

I think a combination your combinations. If there comes a duel it will be a emotional one for both characters. Maybe the last spell of Grindlewald will be a patronus in the form of a phoenix. But if hope for a karaoke sing off..

[@Srinidhi00726]

I always think Dumbledore is resourceful, smart and cunning enough to have been in Slytherin

[@donnyh3497]

I wish someone would make an animated account of that legendary duel and put it on KZbin

[@mecahhannah]

❤ Awesome as always thanks

[@Crashburn711TeamXtinction]

You could even go farther and say Dumbledore asked Grigorafitch for ownership before going to confront Grindelwald.

[@calvincoolidge5795]

this battle happened in 1945. So obviously the battle was interrupted by a nuclear explosion test, that Dumbledore managed to shield himself against but Grindelwald lost the wand in the explosive blast.

[@charlienylin9978]

Could you maybe do a video about what was happening in the wizarding world during ww1

[@grandmyotismon]

Either he was more skilled so the power boost of the wnad didnt matter while its owner was being Outmanoeuvred or he was more skilled and the elder wand refused its full power to an inferior combatant. Either way i think ultimately dumbledore won because he was a better duelist.

[@AceJoker72]

Would love to see your take on whether or not Snape knew that Lockhart was a phony adventurer bc he could easily look into his mind and see the truth. Dumbledore should've been able to see it as well yet Lockhart was still allowed to teach at the school.

[@HarryPotterTheory]

According to canon, Dumbledore DID know that Lockhart was a fraud. Snape probably suspected it but couldn't confirm. The following passage is from Wizarding World!: "Albus Dumbledore’s plans, however, ran deep. He happened to have known two of the wizards for whose life’s work Gilderoy Lockhart had taken credit, and was one of the only people in the world who thought he knew what Lockhart was up to. Dumbledore was convinced that Lockhart needed only to be put back into an ordinary school setting to be revealed as a charlatan and a fraud. Professor McGonagall, who had never liked Lockhart, asked Dumbledore what he thought students would learn from such a vain, celebrity-hungry man. Dumbledore replied that ‘there is plenty to be learned even from a bad teacher: what not to do, how not to be"

[@nathanielmartinez2551]

Wait! November? of 1945! I thought J.K. Rowling didn't reveal the month that Dumbledore defeated Grindelvald (Grindelwald)? Only the year?

[@aleksaknezevic3723]

3:28 I'm hearing this for the first time, though I have studied the Elder Wand and its path through history for quite some time now - Dumbledore had a duel against Gregorovitch as well, in which he disarmed him respectively?

[@rustysm8080]

My theory is based on what Olivander states; the wand CHOOSES the wizard. And he says that has ALWAYS been true. So, the Elder Wand, the best of all wands, has greater control over who it CHOOSES to be its owner. Grendelwald was never chosen. Gregorovich also...was never chosen. In fact, the string of loses by the owners of the elder wand tells me something else: NONE of the previous owners were chosen, except the original maker of the wand, who was murdered in his sleep if Beedle is remotely true. So, the wand searched for it's next owner, someone truly worthy. And, Grendelwald may have POSSESSED it, but as soon as it came in contact with Dumbledore, it made its decision then and there. So, while certainly powerful in anyone's hands, it would seek out that worthy owner leaving the possesser an achilles heel. Based on this, ownership went from the Brother...to Dumbledore. . To Harry...with no owners in between. And, the wand would not, could not, best it's new owner, no matter how gifted the user is...or was.

[@jakeroberts3070]

I dont think a minor stat point bump would warrant Harry destroying the wand. I would wager its power scales with its allegiance. If youre fighting someone the wand would prefer as an owner, it backs off the power to ensure it finds its way to the other witch/wizard.

[@brucevernon5827]

The elder wand always betrayed its owner , and returned the owner back to the Reaper Death

[@Colin13ify]

Johnny Depp will always be Grindelwald to me. It’s such bs to be fired over unfounded accusations, until proven guilty.

[@nategraham6946]

The ownership question is tricky. What makes us think Gregoravich was a legitimate owner?

[@velcity4190]

Actually albus was older than grindelwald

[@grokeffer6226]

These theories all make good sense.

[@monkey39128]

Good old fashioned fisticuffs.

[@Dragondan1987]

That’s my theory. It explains Albus broken nose and would be a very griffindor thing to do since griffindor carried a sword to fight muggles.

[@francisgrizzlysmit4715]

I believe Dumbledore was more powerful and just out classed Grindalvald

[@Mr.NorwegianMarcus]

What about the seer theory?? I heard a theory while back that Grindlewald foresaw Voldemort and the carnage he would cause to the wizarding world And as we know he don't want wizards dead In addition he didn't foresee that Tom is Voldemort, just that some dark wizard would emerge and probably that Dumbledore would need the elderwand That would at least make the quarter of truth thing with Rita be right in this case, too

[@Svensk7119]

Dumbledore was a shade better. Or if they were equals, Dumbledore never took shortcuts. Grindelwald certainly would have. The Dark Arts are nothing but shortcuts. "IS the Dark Side stronger?" "No! No. Quicker. Easier. More seductive." Like Master Yoda, Dumbledore put in the work. Grindelwald would if he must, but was not obey being lazy. Thus, he came to rely too much upon the wand's power. So Dumbledore won, because his old friend had become sloppy.

[@Demonoicgamer666]

Last theory you read a quote the implied the are equally powerful

[@fishandjam5383]

9:10 The first part of the biography was published a year before that. 😂

[@jkent9915]

I don’t think the elder wand (or any wand) has to have a master. Just because Gregorovitch had the wand doesn’t mean he was the master. He likely bought it from someone who stole it and also didn’t win its allegiance. I think it’s by design. The elder wand is often acquired by means that wouldn’t win allegiance and Dumbledore may not have even been the master of it and not known its true power.

[@TacticalPower88]

This unbeatable wand seems to keep getting beaten. Its more like a trophy if anything.

[@terakhanthis]

As of the Fantastic Beasts movies, Grindelwald shouldn't be the master of the wand, so it s out of play. Movie 1, he was disarmed, established as enough to take it. Movie 3, Dumbledore basically beat him and forced his retreat.

[@aimblackbird]

I think i like this version

[@ChattieGrayParker]

Love is wonderful magic what we have💕💕💕🤗

[@joebonanno9145]

I guess you can say he was taken from behind 😂

[@MarioA_]

I still have the hope we could get the 2 last movies in the saga :/

[@gunzandgodz]

He blew him so hard he exploded.

[@jp_eight3]

Wtf

[@Auto_Learning]

Lol

[@summerweetman7441]

They say Voldemort is the darkest wizard of all time and he has supposedly done far more dark magic than grindalwald. So I would say Voldemort is more powerful and Dumbeldoor could Atleast draw even with Voldemort so I support the albus is more advanced and skillful theory

[@thomasdavies2701]

I think if a wand any wand that is can channel the will of its user then its not to far fetched to say if the users will is broken during a duel that could be considered a win for the opposition maybe the fault is the user

[@andrewweber9930]

Grindlewald❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@newhybrid101]

Wasn't it confirmed that Grindelwald wasn't the wands true owner? I remember hearing that when the last movie was released. Anyways,at that point in time Dumbledore was simply better Its stated they were equal in power but Dumbledore was more skilled. Without the Elder Wand they wouldn't have been equal in power,Dumbledore would be clearly stronger Grindelwald isnt as powerful as Voldemort. This is confirmed. As while Dumbledores defences are the greatest and overall the greatest,Voldemort had the most powerful offence ever. In attack potency he was the strongest ever,just not the greatest ever and that due to his mentality of ignoring aspects aside from the dark ones. In potential and talent he is stated to be probably number 1. Dumbledore and Grindelwald being equal younger doesnt mean they will be equal later We dont all develop at the same rate in anything. Like how some kids are the same height young but as adults one is much taller The Elder Wand isnt stated to make you unbeatable. It is a considerable amp due to how powerful it is but thats about it.

[@EllisR.]

Except for the Rita Skeeter fake news (which you magnanimously included even though we all know it's just flamboyant Skeeter trash), I think that the other four are not only valid theories but also simultaneous reasons that combine for an overall multi-factor explanation. Nothing about any of the non-Skeeter explanations contradicts the others, and all ring true.

[@johnedwards6208]

Grindewald: At the time, the leader of the wizarding world's equivalent of muggle conservatives.

[@richewilson6394]

I know everybody's like why this is such a dumb idea by having a physical removal of the want to consider the ownership AKA how Harry takes away Draco's wand and becomes the master. But I think of it as this is that it's a power of wills; The stronger the willl to take it is going to win when it comes to a physical theft of the wand. Magically it's a given that whoever wins is going to own it but if a person takes it through other means like that as a daring and strong will of character.

[@phoneguy4637]

with a kiss

[@grudgematch6653]

If this was considered the best duel in history, then what was the 2nd best?

[@pavanachar9358]

11:30 BGM?

[@bigg7505]

The only true grindelwald is Johnny Depp... i refuse to watch this movie without him.

[@baraka490]

You may have stolen in a cowardly fashion but he still used his wits therefore he beat him in real life chess game of the mind because he managed to get the wand therefore he at least used some kind of brain to be able to get it

[@leviwilliams9601]

Its simple. Dumbledore is just incredibly over powered.

[@timz4217]

No every has it wrong every weirder to own wand loses it on purpose it is curssed to be the most powerful but always betray it owner

[@raghavparanjpe9556]

A wand is as good as the wizard

[@melanievetter6211]

😊🎉🦁

[@That_dude91]

Please use accurate Grindelwald depiction and not this knock off stand in dude 🥺

[@RajaPea-ni4zs]

There was absolutely nothing twisted or incorrect about Grindelwald’s perspectives. The United Kingdom and the United States are falling apart at the seams because we are letting in people who don’t have a shared agenda of a Christian European ancestry to tear these countries and try to make them everything except for what they are. If other groups were the same, they would be able to also likewise build their own nations in their respective continents to the same degree of success that Europe has. These people have not been able to do so, but want to come to all the white European countries and exploit them for their resources and affluency. Grindelwald is essentially doing what needs to be done to preserve merit-based achievement and accomplishments, and not bending the knee to ineptitude. I hate to bring this up, but in certain instances Dolores Umbridge was absolutely correct. Certain types of progress for the sake of progress to be discouraged.

[@CountingStars333]

Ok boomer