How Ebony Got Turned Out | The Players Club Film Criticism & Breakdown

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Do you think that Ebony was acting up at home before she ever came to live with Diamond?

[@CassieCas0106]

Yes! I think that’s why she came to live with Diamond

[@beautifulifraj8009]

Hell yeah!! She was considered to be "hot in the pants"

[@ayannahogan4964]

Definitely acting up

[@Gigglingsiren]

Yep!

[@BeenMIA]

Most definitely

[@giancarlojacobs9982]

I've ALWAYS been very disturbed by the idea of Ronnie and Junior's upbringing. The fact that they are siblings and both are rapists was insane and made me wonder about what their household was like in their childhood 😳😳😳

[@91Definite]

Jr. look like a predator, even Ronnie! I wouldn’t be surprised if both their parents done something to them

[@curtislamarh]

However I don't think it was supposed to go the way it was played out, I believe it's the stigma and mindset of the entire (players in the game of this hidden probably barely illegally lifestyle it entails) the dancers are pawns that move to the place the players who playing put them. They are unaware of the board and it's peices that can harm them because they are not the ones moving.) So in my opinion I believe Ebony was manipulated by the players too. Remember the guys "icecube and the other one from earlier? Who tried to get Ebony into the car but diamond grabbed her up. It's them that causes the outcome to happen to Ebony by luring Roni out with the weed and telling Junior he can smash because she was into it) as pay back for dissing them before. Roni was truly horrified by what happened but obviously to get her brother out of the crossfire she does what people do that are flight mode do running.

[@giancarlojacobs9982]

@@curtislamarh Very valid observations indeed! I do agree that the environment of the Players Club breeds a very toxic type of human. But I also believe it attracts that pre-existing toxicity in others. I also find it ironic that Ronnie was so horrified by junior's assault on Ebony (rightfully so!) meanwhile Ronnie herself took full sexual advantage of Diamond while she was unconscious. To expand upon your previously made point ; It's also worth acknowledging that dozens of Junior's friends stood right outside the door listening to him assault Ebony and did nothing whatsoever to help her. As you mentioned Ice Cube and the other dude who led Ronnie away are the ones who facilitated the assault. So the spectrum of toxic masculinity for the men in this movie indicates that they either cause sexual assault, participate in it or BLATANTLY ignore it. So I thoroughly agree with you.

[@giancarlojacobs9982]

@@91Definite I suspect they grew up I a VERY unsafe household for sure

[@Supremmo]

Dysfunctional with a capital D!

[@theamazingdoubleA]

Ronnie is TRULY one of the best black movie villains. Textbook. She’s stylized perfectly in juxtaposition to Diamond, she commands a room, she’s a scene stealer, and JUST when you think she’s done enough you find out she’s way worse than you thought. She’s awful in a PERFECT way.

[@MrsOrtiz-m9y]

She even got me a few times starry-eyed 😂😂😂… especially at the party when she was dancing for the Police! Lol

[@DontLikeMyComment304]

Perfectly said ❤😂

[@96eddieb]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@CarsonDouglas]

I told her that on Instagram. She liked it.

[@diligentsun1154]

That's very well put

[@dhakirah151]

ronnie got paid for that party. there’s a scene where she tells junior “run me my money” & he handed her a few $100. she lied to ebony to manipulate her. nothing she said that night was true.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Ronnie was full of lies the whole movie. That's what pimps do I guess...

[@ESUTERURE]

Also Ronnie in the film asked one girl if she wanted to go to Junior's party and the girl's response was an extreme no. Foreshadowing on the party later.

[@goofymania84]

Yep that's the bad sign

[@queenscarlettpimpsunkiss..5537]

‼️🎯

[@VidWatcher01]

@@ESUTERURE That was Vanilla the token white girl that Ronnie later said would be there but she wasn't of course

[@KingXaChris]

For your information, context within the movie with Ronnie asking the other girls to dance and them not wanting to because its Junior, leads me to believe he has a history of being sexually aggressive/abusive. So I think that’s why Reggie knew Junior would do that to Ebony because it’s within his character.

[@ESUTERURE]

Wouldn't be surprised seeing as in the film when Diamond was a noob and hanging out with Ronnie that Diamond was sexually assaulted by Ronnie at a customers house whom paid Ronnie to do so. Unfortunately like Ebony Diamond was drunk when she was assaulted.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

You're probably right. I'm assuming he never did any of them as bad as he did Ebony.

[@queenscarlettpimpsunkiss..5537]

@@AxiomAmnesia hmmmmmm. That makes me think about the colorism thats underlying within the movie.. Junior may not have done any of the other girls as bad cuz many of the ones Ronnie seemed to have around were Lightskinned.. Ebony was brownskinned.. So its like this subconscious superiority complex of feeling he could be even more brutal with her and get away with it & also juss seeing her as even less respectable because she is brown skinned.. I've seen that type shihh before.. its quite interesting & totally fckd up

[@queenscarlettpimpsunkiss..5537]

@@ESUTERURE that also kinda makes me feel they were trynna show a slight difference in the methods of Women predators vs Male Predators.. Diamond was clearly faded. Maybe even drugged.. & to get to that point, Ronnie played the long game of mental & emotional manipulation.. vs Jr.. who they portrayed being much more immediate & aggressive. Using his physical strength to overpower his victim(s).. though of course. In real life, some men will use the Ronnie Method as well.. And Some Women use the JR method on other women also.. Which they kinda showed thee attempt of, when Ronnie strolled up on Diamond, in that scene where she had on the purple fit, i think after she'd juss seen her Professor in the club.

[@queenscarlettpimpsunkiss..5537]

I agree ! The seasoned girls & Reggie deflee knew.. Hell Reggie & his lil friend were clearly predators as well cuz what they were about to do with Ebony was assault as well 😭

[@kenyakeoni]

I notice a lot of people missed it, but Ronnie is the one who brought the stalker to Diamond's home.

[@kaylao.3326]

How you know that? I just assumed he was stalking her

[@hey.neecey]

​@kaylao.3326 if you watch the scene again they show Ronnie in the car with myron. It's really a blink and you'll miss it moment but she's there

[@ambriahughes2855]

Mmmmmmmhhhhhhmmm that’s so crazy

[@CarsonDouglas]

​@@hey.neecey definitely a blink and miss it, because I watch this movie frequently.

[@leiamims3633]

Wow, that is completely nuts!

[@Lola7Falana]

Ronnie is a true pimp. She didn't care about anything at all but made sure she made a dollar off it all in every way possible. Them cop parties are regular (i hated it then and hate it now. I also want to rock that entire look at least once in my life), she's turned a lot of girls out at The Player's Club, and I'm sure she makes more money than Dolla Bill there. She also set up a lot of parties for her brother to grape women at. Absolutely nobody was going to do Junior's anything. The fact that no one were warning these girls is wild. I'm sure Ronnie got a kick out of turning out Ebony in front of her cousin knowing she wasn't going to do anything about it cuz if she cared she wouldn't have had her working there. A predator knows that everyone is prey.

[@darkwriter_xx94]

I agree with all of this! Especially the fact that Ronnie probably targeted Ebony as a way to get back at Diamond. And I did catch that everyone seemed to know not to do any of junior’s parties but no one thought to warn Ebony. I wonder if her friendship with Ronnie made the other girls not like her? I never thought of her being complicit in her brother SAing women at other parties. If that was the case did she think she’d be able to protect Ebony as long as she stayed around her bcuz she seemed genuinely upset about what he did to her.

[@91Definite]

⁠@@darkwriter_xx94imho? It’s not that…it’s because the other strippers know that Ronnie is basically a bully at the Players Club. Some stay quiet and left Ebony to wonder for herself they wasn’t getting into that shit. Plus the other strippers didn’t mingle with Ebony. Which tells you that woman is by herself

[@monique4540]

But Diamond beat Ronnie down for her putting Ebony in that situation

[@ycartyahoo]

I feel like Eboni and Diamond were close young cousins and that's why I think the momma and auntie thought them staying together was a great idea... each parent was hoping their old relationship would inspire their daughter to make better choices.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

True!

[@queenscarlettpimpsunkiss..5537]

I could see that too !

[@MsDisneylandlover]

I agreed with that..

[@ShaneiceTurner-zv8tf]

True

[@zanabrown8868]

Diamond’s parents volunteered her to “babysit” Ebony, I think she was already getting caught up in Tallahassee and they didn’t want her to be their problem. Diamond mentioned a few times about that and it came off like she never wanted her to live there.

[@therealmarlonbellamy]

Fun Facts: Diamond’s mom was played by Judy Ann Elder. She appeared on Sanford & Son, she was Gina’s mom on Martin & the second Harriet Winslow on Family Matters. Diamond’s dad was played by the late Dick Anthony Williams (Pretty Tony from The Mack).

[@91Definite]

@@therealmarlonbellamyOh shit 😳! He did played on The Mack 🤔! It’s crazy how he played a cold stone father but before he played a pimp 💯

[@therealmarlonbellamy]

@@91Definite He was also appeared on The Jeffersons & Martin & he was in the movie Sister Sister, Tap, Mo Better Blues & Hot Boys.

[@91Definite]

@@therealmarlonbellamyhe had a career, rest in peace to him

[@traceyharris3341]

I think personally that Ebony was getting in trouble staying out late hanging with the wrong people. But she made herself try to look innocent so Diana wouldn't suspect anything. She took to the fast life way too quickly.

[@91Definite]

But you know what’s crazy? I wished their was a prequel to the Players Club that focus on Ebony’s life up to the point of her moving to Atlanta to live with her cousin Diana. I think the Prequel would’ve been just as good as the Players Club.

[@traceyharris3341]

@@91Definite possibly an they could have named it Tallahassee

[@91Definite]

@@traceyharris3341shit that would be dope! They could still do it if they wanted to especially a series

[@MsTrueTy]

​@@91DefiniteI rather see the villain arch of Ronnie. What's her story and how did she become such a femme fatale. She reminds you of mythical siren. A beautiful alluring woman that promises riches but also your demise. How does a person like that even come to be? And what's up with her abusive brother? Her story can def be built on it cube ever wanted to revamp the players club

[@91Definite]

@@MsTrueTythat would be a good movie but I think some people never liked Ronnie in the movie cause she was a manipulator

[@ddivar]

Ebony was trouble in Tallahassee, which is why she was sent off after graduation. Ebony is very envious of Diana, but thought her and Diamond were on equal grounds, since stripping was contrary to Diana’s goody two shoes character. Ronnie really played on that jealousy to manipulate Ebony into getting deeper in the game, so she can make more money, have a better car, etc. Although, Ronnie would prefer Diamond over Ebony and doesn’t really hide it. Multiple characters tell her she second fiddle to Diamond, to get Ebony to do what they want.

[@91Definite]

Yeah, like that shit is fucked up. If you can’t get the woman you want and manipulate? Manipulate the one closer to her sadly 🤷🏾‍♂️💯

[@CarsonDouglas]

"you can't clap yo bewty like yo cousin" 👏🏾🤣 she can get paid ! Did you here Clyde ? 💀

[@91Definite]

@@CarsonDouglasright smh…Comparing her to Diamond was low

[@ShaneiceTurner-zv8tf]

Yes

[@thesekneeswork]

Ebony and Faith from “Soul Food” is part of the reason why I have trust issues 😂😂😂 great vid ❤️

[@AxiomAmnesia]

❤️

[@Jaliseemo]

Facts 100% I don’t trust any cousins anymore after this movie period 😂

[@empireeliteenterprises2942]

Facts. I saw both those explicit movies at a very young age but was old enough to not feel right about what these women were doing...lol, those 2 women always made me be picky about the girls I would let around me to be a "friend". Yep, I def felt triggered and traumatized by those 2 movies in a odd way, but also feel a sense of comfort too. Polarizing female roles make you feel uncomfortably pleasant

[@MrsOrtiz-m9y]

I could have strangled Ebony with my barehands walking in front my man like that!!! She wouldn’t have had the chance to sleep with him, she would have been gone that night!

[@91Definite]

When you think about it as a man? Getting with a woman and being in a relationship? And you around her family? You have to watch out for the females in her family. Vice Versa with the women dealing with a man in a relationship and being around his family.

[@dee-dee8718]

When ebony was caught sleeping with Lance, Diamond said that Ebony was always trying to sleep with somebody's man. That makes me feel like Diamond's mom didn't want Ebony staying in her house because she didn't want Ebony around her husband. Did anyone else's peep that 🤔

[@91Definite]

You seriously think that Diamonds father was gonna be tempted around her if she lived at their house? I don’t think he would be that kind of guy. I think he would’ve treated her like Diamond. Either follow the rules or get out 🤷🏾‍♂️.

[@TheRetroWoman80]

I had never considered that at the time but I can definitely see that possibility now.

[@dee-dee8718]

@@91Definite I'm not saying diamonds dad is that type of guy but that doesn't mean Ebony wouldn't have still tried him.

[@91Definite]

@@dee-dee8718that’s kinda wild, cause that would be her uncle. Unless him and Diana’s mother ain’t married yea I can see that.

[@dee-dee8718]

@@91Definite at this point I wouldn't put anything past Ebony.

[@snl2010]

I feel like Diamond parent should have intervened and told Ebony mom that Diamond focusing on school and can’t watch her. They didn’t have to put her stripping business out there but it’s crazy they’d even be on board with it.

[@angelaholmes8888]

Yes exactly that's what they should had done diamond has her own problems to deal with

[@91Definite]

It just seem like the older adults in the family put everything on the kids to watch the others and shit which ain’t right

[@redrumnoir7552]

I do wonder if Ebony was deemed “less desirable” than Diamond because Diamond is portrayed as “unattainable” with an attitude and Ebony is easily influenced and known to be drunk more often than not by halfway through the film? Because I don’t think she’s actually less attractive, but her behavior is a little.

[@purplebanana6420]

Yeah true plus that shes a drunk dancer nobody wants a drunk dancer

[@91Definite]

Shit Lance saw her desirable 😂! He was the only one in the movie that did

[@DetroitRed03]

Ebony was just easily influenced, loose & outta control 😂

[@neosoulsofree883]

​@@91Definitelmaooooo

[@91Definite]

@@neosoulsofree883am i right 😂?

[@mistasofly]

Her moving with Diamond was an all around bad idea. Living with Diamond, Ebony: became a stripper, hung out with bad influences, got into drugs and alcohol (even more so than she already was), and got raped and disfigured. Ebony may have been better off staying where she was.

[@dariand8100]

100 percent the truth

[@91Definite]

How would you know it was her first time getting drunk or high 🤷🏾‍♂️?! I think she been done shit like this before! Only thing she hadn’t done was the stripping thing

[@antg2183]

@@91DefiniteThe keys words in his sentence was even more. If she was at a 7 doing bad shit, moving in with Diamond made her dial everything up to an 11.

[@91Definite]

@@antg2183 hmmm…you have a point cause her being at a new town upped everything for her

[@TheTillmanSneakerReview]

I doubt that. Ebony immediately lived the stripper life, indicating that she was loose from the jump. That's probably why Auntie sent her away to get a positive influence by Diamond. Despite her parents looking down on her perspective, they probably trusted Diamond because they knew Diamond's plans. I'm happy that Ebony was smart enough to get right by the end.

[@RainChoc_]

For your information lol… What ALWAYS had me flabbergasted by this movie was the fact that Diana had to start stripping all because she wanted to go to a HBCU & her father didn’t agree. Like thats soo messed up, everyone doesn’t want to to attend a PWI.

[@aneshaelizabeth]

It sucks, but unfortunately it is common. I know numerous black people that look down on HBCUs because they have a bad rep of being “party schools” and not have the best curriculum compared to PWIs.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

She should have taken out a student loan and worked in the cafeteria like everyone else did...

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Agreed! There are a lot of Back folks who favor PWIs. This pisses me off because there's nothing like the culture of an HBCU.

[@RainChoc_]

@@AxiomAmnesiaTrue, because she tried to make a living at the shoe store, but got wrapped up in Ronnie’s foolishness. I think the money was fast & good especially with her being a young mother. I lowkey felt like she got kicked out for wanting to do right which is crazy.

[@AngieCarr]

That right there, that’s an underlying theme that is never talked about. How society always finds a way to trivialize and demean anything “black” or associated with “black”. Our community still does that ish today, that’s why the argument between going to an HBCU and state ran (PWI) institution will never end. That alone can have its own video breaking down the stigmas and negative rhetoric .

[@laquintinbelser8342]

The fact Monica Calhoun played on best man right after this shows her versatility as a actress cause boiii that was definitely a weird transition for the better tho lol

[@ninjanibba4259]

Then from Best Man to Trois 2 The girl can camouflage and be convincing, I just wish she got bigger roles cuz she's currently doing tubi crap movies

[@cabbitness1983]

ebony might not have been acting up before living with diamond (or maybe she was "acting up" in terms of a more traditional southern lifestyle), but it was clear she idolized diamond, almost to the point it kinda felt like she wanted to be her. so ebony might have glamorized the stripper business in her mind because 1) diamond did it DESPITE diamond warning her and 2) she was naive, and that's all it would really take to corrupt her.

[@ShaneiceTurner-zv8tf]

I believe she was that why she's was sent off to live with her cousin.

[@radenewbury7499]

Monica Calhoun played Rebbie Jackson in the Jackson's movie 5 years before she was in players club definitely a seasoned actress by the time she was in players club and how Ironic she played Ralph Tresvant Mother in the New Edition movie another legendary group film

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Yep, she was what I would call a child actor because she was in movies before she was anywhere near grown.

[@radenewbury7499]

@AxiomAmnesia she definitely a legend ...would like to see yall point of view on a movie of musical groups ...temptations.. jackson 5 movie... New Edition movie ...

[@patriceanderson8239]

She was also in Sister Act 2

[@TheRetroWoman80]

She sure did.

[@Sha_riley3546]

She also was on a different world with jada pinkett in the Tupac episode

[@brandongordon2392]

I honestly love this movie a lot.... I have a few takes 1.) I stand by the fact that this movie was carried by the supporting cast. Bernie Mac, Jamie Foxx, A.J. Johnson, James Amos, Faizon Love, Adele Givens, Charlie Murphy and Terrane Howard. On paper, this movie was extremely stacked. But those folks really brought an energy to the movie in which made it more lighthearted despite the dark tones of the movie, especially Love, Amos, Johnson, and mostly Mac. 2.) Speaking of the dark tones of the movie, Chrystale Wilson did a miraculous job with showcasing the predatory nature of folks in that industry. It's a rare take that a lot of cinema really haven't shown to a degree of the predator being, well a woman. She did an amazing job in the movie as Ronnie and it saddens me that she doesn't get enough recognition for this role, she does indeed deserve her flowers. 3.) The fight scene between Wilson and LisaRaye McCoy is probably one of the greatest fight scenes in cinema period. Not a hot take but by god that scene lives rent free in my head as one of the greatest that I have ever seen. 4.) I don't think that LisaRaye is that great of an actress. historically, sometimes it's just basically LisaRaye playing herself... but she certainly had a lot of bright moments in this movie, from the fight scene, to some of the more emotional scenes in the movie... as the main character, this is clearly her best role by far.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

"Speaking of the dark tones of the movie, Chrystale Wilson did a miraculous job with showcasing the predatory nature of folks in that industry. It's a rare take that a lot of cinema really haven't shown to a degree of the predator being, well a woman."

[@angelaholmes8888]

That fight was cool 😎

[@toyaex9950]

“Did you atleast pinch the bitch”

[@darkwriter_xx94]

I agree lisa raye for the most part is playing herself in whatever she’s acting in. Fortunately that happened to work with the Diamond character 😂😂

[@queenscarlettpimpsunkiss..5537]

I think the underlying colorism is intentional because colorism is heavy in the dance world in general... Specifically in the club industry.. specifically specifically in the strip club industry.

[@MaterialGworlKodi]

Totally agree. You can also notice this in all his "hood" movies.

[@lakishasmith956]

What I did not like is they always talked about Ebony dancing but we never saw her dance.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Facts! 😂

[@JMonGaming1991]

Lance was one step away from saying “she tripped and fell on it”😂

[@MrsOrtiz-m9y]

The fact Diamond had a cell phone in 1998 means she was making crazy good money! I just noticed that

[@AngelHoll]

1998? This film is from 2001 right

[@MrsOrtiz-m9y]

@@AngelHoll No, came out in 1997

[@AngelHoll]

@@MrsOrtiz-m9y oh ok

[@DestinysChild-vn5hm]

No it was April 10th 1998

[@lotusflowerbomb7219]

She had a lot of regulars

[@dajanedior]

She probably had already been walking around in her draws diamond just now catching her when she came home but that part so embarrassing cause he didn't want to get up ....omg 😳

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Yes, red flag that Lance wasn't any good!

[@Nevaeh1]

Lance and Eboni feeling bold or comfortable enough to have sexx in Diamonds bed when they thought she would still be at work leads me to believe that wasn't the only time they did that

[@91Definite]

@@Nevaeh1could be true…I think that was the fuck first time

[@MaryJaneMusic17]

tricks being an older version of ebony is a good point i think that or i think tricks and her introduced each other to this game but ronnie is more dominant and manipulative with it.

[@Divinebeauty64]

Behind the scenes Diamond and Ronnie didn’t get along and argued too. The scenes of them going back and forth had real energy to it

[@blaqpirate]

I remember one of the actress talking about that as well!

[@torrijones8434]

Yea I had heard that

[@ShaneiceTurner-zv8tf]

I heard it's hard to work with Lisa Ray

[@smilealwaysnatasha3423]

She was not corrupted. The whole reason they sent her to Diamond was because she was “doing the most” back home. She was already fast, dumb and naive….. so I think they thought highly of Diamond since she was in school and seems level headed despite being a dancer.

[@91Definite]

Yea but that wasn’t the best choice honestly. But I will say she discipline tf outta Ebony pistol whipping her face with the gun after seeing her with Lance 😂! She deserved that one sadly and said gtfo her house like her father 😂! She was probably staying with Ronnie for a few days after that

[@zharawillywonka4438]

the parents didn't know diamond was a dancer though if you remember, there's a scene with her kid where she tells them to keep their secrete, that she dances.

[@91Definite]

@@zharawillywonka4438yeah but eventually it was told

[@walk_er]

I believe Diamond threw ebony out to the wolves by getting her a job at the club. Also why in the hell was junior so thirsty like he’s not getting married in the next 24 hours?

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Yeah Junior was a whole predator. Who was marrying that dude though?

[@CelesteJem]

Grooms sleep with the dancers at their bachelor parties. That’s common!

[@walk_er]

@@CelesteJem I understand that but junior was acting like a wild animal

[@91Definite]

@@CelesteJemthat do be happening which I never understood

[@BeautifullAnyae]

I was a bartender and yes you are a part time therapist and you do see everything that’s going on if you’re not slammed but you also have to be observant as to not over serve someone

[@calebriley6774]

For your information the story should of been Ebony’s story because she is the one that had to learn the lesson. Diamond only went to school one day and she was sleeping in class. How did she graduate?

[@AxiomAmnesia]

😆 Diamond's professor gave her that mercy "A" after he saw her in the club 😂

[@calebriley6774]

@@AxiomAmnesia oh yeah, 🤣🤣

[@toyaex9950]

Lol

[@dajanedior]

Trix straight up lied to Ebony she was never going to jr party 😔😔

[@AxiomAmnesia]

This movie was fill of folks lying!

[@therealmarlonbellamy]

@@AxiomAmnesiaRight. Reggie lied to Junior about him & Clyde getting with Eboni.

[@cybertek3188]

Not to mention Ronnie lied to her about other dancers being at the party and not getting paid. If she cared anything about ebony, she wouldn't have lied to her about all that. And you know it's down bad when not even tricks was at Juniors party. Lol

[@daniellej7914]

Duh

[@Tornado1994]

@@cybertek3188 Ronnie went down on Diamond during a Clientele Hot Tub Party Speed Grapher Style. The Flashback scene still has several holes though. If Diamond was Inebriated, How would she know that Ronnie Ate her out?

[@FernandeeziTv]

Definitely weird to strip in front of your cousin. If i was to walk in a strip club and my cousin was dancing there, id be out of there with the quickness.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Talk about that being an awkward situation!

[@kenroycherrington148]

@@AxiomAmnesia Well, at Flashdancers Downtown, one cousin was a bartender and the other one was a stripper. Hey, sex sells and we men are so randy that we finance these women's education, their bills, and their kids.

[@lateshiachilds3640]

Right

[@joshuamcdowell9745]

Lance had some nerve to demand that Diamond quit working at the Players Club. He didn't even give her any options. She was only stripping to pay for school and she had a young son to care for and the child's father wasn't around. So was he gonna pay her tuition and financially support her and her son? I think not. He was just embarrassed because his friends was clowning him. But here's the thing though. Diamond was one of, if not the favorite of all the girls at the Players Club. They probably low key wanted her. Diamond's professor gave her an option by giving the information of someone he knew who worked at BET. If Diamond would have quit, what Lance would have done?

[@MaryJaneMusic17]

i feel like colorism played a role but at the same time if ebony wasnt drunk and carried herself better she wouldve been good lol

[@jamalsoward72]

Diamond's father wanted her to go to a certain college and she didn't want to go. That is why she left home and her and her father fell out.

[@Du808-o8k]

Her father was an sellout he don’t want her go too a black college

[@hasanaturner]

as a current 21 yr old i would hope my family wouldnt entrust me to care after my 18 yr old cousin bc if im fuckin stupid and she fuckin stupid who driving the car

[@AxiomAmnesia]

The way you made me laugh!!! 😂😂😂

[@tiffanymcdaniels5652]

😂😂

[@Ashas.Garden]

Who becomes an alcoholic that fast? Ebony must’ve already been a drinker before, shit just got heavier in that environment.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

She may have been...

[@angelaholmes8888]

You might be right

[@VidWatcher01]

Ebony was one of those type that had to learn the hard way. Also anyone else find it odd that Diamond's dad was breathing smoke & fire because she wanted to go to a Historically Black Uni but seem to have no problem with her working at a strip club? That always use to puzzle me Edit: I stand corrected. He had something to say about it....

[@91Definite]

I mean…If anything she was out of his house. So basically he doesn’t give af what she does outside of his house cause she’s an adult as long as she ain’t in no danger

[@daniellej7914]

Nah he had a problem with it to a degree I think it was his fault his daughter stripped

[@91Definite]

@@daniellej7914maybe

[@yourstrulykaai]

I don’t think being raped is a way to learn the hard way…

[@cressapellom4205]

@@yourstrulykaaiI mean she was told by her own cousin to chill and she thought she was ms. know it all, and unfortunately she was assaulted because she didn’t listen to diamond. That’s life sometimes.

[@sh0eh0rn4]

this was so well done! I wanted to comment that when Dolla Bill was talking about “moonlighting”, he was referring to the prostitution. He definitely knew that it was happening, even if Lil Man didn’t.

[@MrsOrtiz-m9y]

That comment about the “moonlighting” he was talking about her prostituting out the club. Getting guys from the club and doing that, either in the Champagne room or meeting outside. That’s another thing that’s frowned upon in the club too, because those girls get the clubs raided.

[@daniellej7914]

Not according to karrine Steffens

[@MrsOrtiz-m9y]

@@daniellej7914 She was one the one’s doing that but I made just as much as them and I wasn’t doing it. But I also didn’t dance in urban clubs, I danced in upscale clubs and I worked the day shift to avoid the BS at night time. So my clientele were white business men. I worked it like a regular job. Be there at 10, makeup and hair already done and I was always the first girl on the floor. I stayed out of that damn dressing room because (drama)… I didn’t get drunk or do drugs and 7 pm I cash out and went to pick up my daughter.

[@91Definite]

@@MrsOrtiz-m9ygood job 💯👏🏾

[@RubiPearl560]

@@MrsOrtiz-m9yyour one of the lucky ones,

[@MauriceErvin-pk3jx]

I noticed you all spoke on pimping a few times……a Fun fact I would like to mention is that Diamond/Diana’s Father in the movie played by Dick Anthony Williams also Played Pretty Tony in the movie The Mack.

[@queenscarlettpimpsunkiss..5537]

It is fucked up that Diamond had already gotten 'caught up' in the club/assaulted, etc.. and she still took Ebony in there.. And i think she was in the midst of the lesson of Realizing how her actions & decisions effect others.. She was discarded as an adult teenager ,basically, by her parents over a baby & a school decision. So her young traumatized mind may have processed & Coped with allat in the way of suppressing her emotions & hyper focusing on money & her goals.. So also in her mind.. balancing her goals, bills, child & ebony..meant keeping Ebony where she thought she could keep up with her.. The Club.. cuz in her mind- if Ebony worked a regular job, it'd be much more difficult to keep tabs on her since she was in school by day & the club all night.. and it wouldnt be as much money.. Them doing allat lying and hiding stuff gives That they come from a real strict family that obsesses over image. And the underlining homophobia gives potentially religious parents.

[@ninjanibba4259]

It's not homophobic to be concerned about being pimped out by other women that don't care

[@yvonnecox7534]

but ebony is grown that makes her decisions nobody is going to stop her from what she want to do diamond thought if she works at the same club it is a better way to watch her that is her thinking even through it backfired

[@carnitasheppard4591]

I need to go back and watch the film again, but from what I remember, Ebony just seemed very green. She obviously had a wild hair or two in her blood wherever she was from, but the appeal of the "big city" was heavily romanticized in her mind. Like so many of us that come from small towns, I think Ebony underrated the value of the sensibilities that her original community holds dear. At this point I'm only 9:33 through the video, so I guess I'll shut up and watch now!

[@91Definite]

Ebony might’ve been green but she ain’t no fool. Her curiosity got her in situations she couldn’t handle.

[@SamDavidJr]

What is green?

[@A.MoniqueN]

@@SamDavidJrwhen you’re very ignorant to situations. Especially ones where you’d need to have more common sense.

[@SamDavidJr]

@@A.MoniqueN Oooh, ok! Ha! I’ve been a green qween at points in my life.

[@MrsOrtiz-m9y]

I used to dance.. the 30% is counted by the bouncers how many dances you do BUT then it’s etiquette to tip out, after tip out it’s more like 40-50%… once I learned how to hustle you kind of don’t even miss it because you made a lot of money and then I was gaining popularity with my regular clientele and they understand how it works and tipped me what I would lose from the club if not more. That was such a fun time, but I handled it like Diamond, actually, most of the girls do… you got your few Ebonies bouncing around but they were actually rare! We were there to make MONEY! Those girls get run out the club FAST by the other girls and management.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Thanks for sharing your experience and helping us to understand how all of this works!

[@terrellearl4518]

According to Ebony "she's grown" at least that's what she said to Diamond. I just feel like Diamond's mother should not have imposed the responsibility of looking after Ebony solely on Diamond. I also feel like Ebony was already getting into trouble in Tallahassee that's why they said to make sure she stays out of trouble.

[@91Definite]

I agree she had to have been in some shit! Hanging with the wrong crowd and shit it’s just that Ronnie and Trixie was awhole other level of “wrong crowd”! I felt like she should’ve been under Diana at the club instead of being around Ronnie and Trixie

[@NJohn-ze2du]

for your information please talk about Ronnie more in diamond's breakdown video. like how Ronnie and her brother were predators and why they both were agressive sexually in different ways, there was obviously abuse in their childhood.

[@CelesteJem]

Yep! Great point. A family of wolves!

[@Apricityville]

Regarding the bachelor party, Ronnie straight up lied to Ebony about 2 things: 1. She said, "I'm not getting no money for this neither." (LIE) When she was on the phone w/Ebony, on her way there, she put the phone against her chest and literally told Jr. "Where's my money for this?" 2. She said, "You know that white girl, Vanilla, from the club- she supposed to be coming." (LIE) Vanilla straight up said, "Who, Junior? Hell no, you better get somebody else to do it."

[@ycartyahoo]

I think the banana scene was their only way or an easy way to show she set her sites on Lance - if only for one night...

[@AxiomAmnesia]

You're probably right about this... she was chomping on that banana and plotting...

[@Ashas.Garden]

For your information, the whole movie coulda been better written, more fleshed out, etc., but beggars can’t be choosers. A lot of Black majority cast movies back then were low budget quickly slapped together. We overlooked those failings because if the familiarity of the cast and characters.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

This is true! I think back then we were just happy to have a Black movie!

[@caliBornbEauty]

For Your Information... I think they tried to give Diamond a well rounded story but because she wasn't wildin out, it wasn't as interesting. She had the thing with Myron following her home but she survived. AND That was quickly overshadowed by Ebony and Lance in the bed together. Yes Lance cheated but she ended up with a better dude. Yeah she was in danger of failing(they could have made that bigger than they did) but she didn't fail. She graduated on time. Her life was merely inconvenienced by Ebony's antics but other than that, not much. Even the thing that happened to her by Ronnie. She didn't suffer any true anguish afterwards like Ebony did. So they tried but they made Diamond a stripper with morals so nothing really bad ever happened to her(aside from the non consensual thing she experienced while under the influence)

[@91Definite]

Well the shit with Ronnie was already harmful enough and that can fuck with her mental knowing she didn’t get down like that but was drunk maybe drugged up when she was hanging with Ronnie and Trixie that one night. Ebony dealt with more physical pain and mental pain, some of that she brought on herself other half she didn’t. Good thing outta that was Ronnie didn’t turn her out, she wasn’t even her type foreal Diamond was 💯

[@caliBornbEauty]

@91Definite I agree, it. Was harmful enough. But they didn't show her being deeply effected by it. Only thing we got was her spitting on Ronnie and saying "and this is for me". They could have made that bigger in her story

[@91Definite]

@@caliBornbEautyYea they could’ve, believe it or not Diamond could’ve killed her if she wanted to

[@MsCarringtonsYoutube]

25:28 Ebony was getting too deep into the industry by getting herself into overly explicit behavior and vulgar activity. Instead of ebony keeping her boundaries, she was losing them and was willing to do anything and everything just for pay. Going to Wild *ex parties is disgusting and is going beyond the line. So Diamond was 100% right for being upset about ebony taking it too far.

[@kasharianthony3661]

Adding to what yall were saying about this movie referencing important events that were happening during the time it first came out another event is Freaknik the whole "no means no" slogan was big around that time because freaknik was under fire due to sexual assault that was happening at those events.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Good point!

[@TheRetroWoman80]

For your information. Thank you Heit and Cheri for covering this movie. That SA scene always stuck with me. I feel like Ebony had been in this sort of situation in her past and re-traumatizing was about to occur. I think she was having second thoughts about doing the party but was trying to get lit enough to be numb to whatever was to come about. Looking back, it further reminds me how you can't ever assume people who look like you will protect you or actually care about your well being. The movie was a great honest delve into the world of stripping. I just can't believe generations later so many people still want to be a part of that culture, as if this movie wasn't enough of a cautionary tale.

[@NishNotNisha]

FYI ❤❤ Yall forgot Vanilla said Hell Nall to Jr. party😂 Also Clyde was mad that he could run train on Ebony when Diamond saved her from the car he was like Im gone get that ass back!!

[@AxiomAmnesia]

All facts!!!

[@91Definite]

Vanilla wasn’t fucking with Ronnie little brother cause she knew what’s hip about his ass even others which is why Ebony was the only one there. Trixie didn’t go basically lying to Ebony

[@deb8911]

Ebony and Cousin Faith were really something 😂

[@AxiomAmnesia]

They were a whole mess! 😂😂😂

[@TheRetroWoman80]

Straight up vicious 🤨

[@91Definite]

I think Faith was worse

[@Du808-o8k]

@@91Definitefaith was the robbing the family in mama joe still respects her

[@TheOriginalGaPeach]

“For Your Information” This was an excellent discussion of Ebony! Yes, I think 💭 she was a problem at home in which is why her family sent her to live with Diamond/ Aunt and Uncle! Ebony had to learn the hard way! I always say “You Live and Learn “

[@alyssacimone682]

27:37 She didn’t get kicked out for being pregnant. her dad kicked her out because the college Diamond wanted to go to her dad wasn’t paying for it. also, she was pregnant so being that she needed more money to pay for school, apartment, car & baby expeensives

[@happygolucky8869]

For your information...I would have liked more of a backstory for Ebony versus the speculation they left about her. I also never notice until your video just how short the timeline from when Ebony came to live with Diamond until the end was. It felt unrealistic that she acclimated and was ruled over by Ronnie so easily while being turned against Diamond, then being better than with the strippers at the shoe store.

[@ambriahughes2855]

Honestly in my opinion Ebony was always jealous of Diamond/Diana she wanted to be like her in so many ways and because she wasn’t seen in the same light as her. Ebony did anything and everything to hurt/humble her. Little did she know the joke was on her tremendously

[@RealTalk87]

My new favorite duo on KZbin. Keep it coming with the bangin content💪🏾🔥💯

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Thanks so much for supporting the channel!!! ❤️

[@therealmarlonbellamy]

FOR YOUR INFORMATION. Diamond set Eboni up for failure by getting her a job at The Players Club knowing how toxic it was & Ronnie SAing her. Eboni got turned out because she’d been sheltered her entire life. She wanted to be like Diamond but Ronnie probably told her that she could be better. She fell under Ronnie’s influence & found out in the end who had her best interest at heart. Fun Facts: Lisa Raye was in Makaveli’s Turn In Up & she also appeared on Martin. Monica Calhoun played Rebbie Jackson in The Jacksons An American Dream, She also appeared on A Different World, The Wayans Bros, The Jamie Foxx show & she was also in The Earnest Green Story alongside Morris Chestnut. Lisa Raye & Monica Calhoun were also in Civil Brand & Gang Of Roses. Lance played by Montae Russell was on the short lived HBO series Laurel Avenue. St. Louis played by the late Larry Mccoy, was in Malcolm X, Dead Presidents & Never Die Alone. The dude who told dollar bill it was time to hear that pop was played by the late Badja Djola. He played the original Half Dead in Penitentiary. He was also in Mississippi Burning, A Rage In Harlem & Who’s The Man. He & the late Bernie Mac were in Who’s The Man. Myron, played the Jimmy Woodard was in Hollywood Shuffle & House Party 3. Samuel Monroe Jr. is the eternal typecast. If you look up the word typecast in the dictionary you’ll see his picture. I would love to see The Players Club get coverted into a series like The Best Man Final Chapters. I also would love to see how the characters faired after the cameras stop rolling.

[@HatersLuvBey]

I enjoyed the breakdown☺️. Is it bad that I’ve always thought Lisa Raye’s acting has never been good like at all lol. Her career has basically been her benefiting from desirability politics (so has Nia Long’s and a few other 90s OGs). It just seems like Ebony’s family ultimately failed her within a 2 month timeframe. Her own mother and aunt basically had no plan for her when she got to ATL and just threw her under her cousin’s care in which the cousin was still struggling to make ends meet with a child, a complaining boyfriend, and school. It’s almost like Diamond’s mom didn’t care what Ebony did as long as she wasn’t work at the strip club like huh? Lol. Looking back at it now I’m like why didn’t ANYBODY suggest school to Ebony. I would have like the story more if we could have seen Ebony get a fair chance at trying school and working part time at the shoe store THEN gradually being suck into the fast life after being persuaded by maybe Ronnie and Trick’s like they did Diamond. The subtle homophobia in the movie is also kinda weird but okay lol I hold a lil animosity towards this movie also bc my mom chose to give me the sex/consent/rape talk whilst watching this movie during a BET movie-thon when I was like 10..

[@AxiomAmnesia]

I agree with everything you said!

[@VeeDizzle83]

Not u got lectured to during the movie 😂

[@HatersLuvBey]

@@VeeDizzle83Yes! Plz don’t get me started on Bad Boy’s opening scene when one of the call girls is left to die after being sexually assaulted. Chile, another sex talk pitch from my mother is what I got lol

[@ninjanibba4259]

​@@HatersLuvBeymight've been weird at the time, but aren't you glad you were aware of this stuff before your peers, so you knew what to look out for? Sounds like a great mom to me, most moms wouldn't even bother to say much

[@jamalsoward72]

Diamond was 22, she was about 18, her senior year in high school when she started working at The Player's Club

[@91Definite]

Wait a minute 🤔! She was a senior in high school when she started going to the players club?

[@jamalsoward72]

@@91Definite yes she was

[@Du808-o8k]

@@91Definitewonder how she got in the club I know age limit was a thing in the 90s I can tell dollar bill was a pedophile…

[@91Definite]

@@jamalsoward72what the fuck 😳?!

[@sheresea.3972]

Diamond got kicked out the house because she wanted to go to a black college and her father wasn't going to pay for her to go to a black college.

[@laquintinbelser8342]

Okay so for those who dont know Tallahassee is a college town home of Florida state so i think the narrative was her coming from a smaller town and getting caught up in a bigger city i mention this cause i feel like its accurate even in life i seen people go from small towns to Big cities and changed for the worse

[@CassieCas0106]

I used to be a waitress at a small town bar and we had regulars and I knew all their business 🤣🤣🤣

[@AxiomAmnesia]

😂😂😂Did they ask you for advice too?

[@RespectfullyMonie]

“For Your Information” I absolutely love y’all Breakdowns❤️ Keep up the awesome work and content. Sending positive vibes and positive energy 💯💕

[@AxiomAmnesia]

❤️❤️❤️

[@indiat.7242]

I always thought Ronnie was pimping Ebony she was an easy target, and she for sure had already smashed Lance when she walked in with them big panties on lol She lowkey wanted Diana life and her man was apart of it! Ebony was just so green, it made no sense for Diamond to even put her on at the club 😂😂 Ronnie was definitely a predator though. Edit: I just got to where y’all say Ronnie was a pimp😂 I feel like Ronnie and Trix got cool off both being grimey she was a flunky. Me and my cousins used to stay saying “Let me out” 😂😂

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Yesss!!!!!

[@kenyavigne6542]

Ebony was acting up at home & I don’t think her mama knew Diamond was a stripper . I highly doubt Diamond’s mother told her that because stuff like that is frowned upon . What she did tell her was that Diamond was in college , had her own apartment , etc . Ebony mama heard that & thought Diamond could guide her a little bit . When Ebony arrived in ATL & saw that Diamond’s life wasn’t all that glamorous , or in a way , she wasn’t any better than her … it’s really like a middle finger to the rest of the family . I think that’s why she was rebelling soooo hard !

[@MsCarringtonsYoutube]

22:22 That quote most definitely does fit even to this day. All money is for sure not good money. There are good and bad ways to make money.

[@jacksmack2raw]

Ebony was 18 her favorite cousin had her own place. It might not have been extravagant but she young

[@jamalsoward72]

They missed the scene where Ronnie asked the chick Vanilla did she want to dance at Junior's bachelor party and she rejected the offer. And we find out why

[@AxiomAmnesia]

I think we talked about that. That's what we meant when we were talking about the other girls not wanting to do Junior's party.

[@jamalsoward72]

@@AxiomAmnesia Junior was an animal

[@91Definite]

Vanilla already know what was up with Ronnie’s brother! The fact he never got married and didn’t serve any time was still wild to me to this day. Maybe the woman he was getting married to called it off when she realized he did raped a dancer and his sister tooken the fall for it

[@Supremmo]

Ebony was likely that way before she moved from Tallahassee. At the end of the day, old habits don't die hard with most people.

[@Captain-America92]

Yall saying Ronnie's hairstyle would look ridiculous in current times when women now days are wearing blue, red & neon green wigs with fake baby hairs attached??

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Touche... 😆 point well taken.

[@joshuamcdowell9745]

LisaRaye was never a good actress. She was a video vixen before she was cast in The Players Club. In fact, her appearance in Tupac's video "Toss It Up" was how she got this role. She got by on just having a pretty face just like Lauren London.

[@Lola7Falana]

I'm from Miami. Everybody went to Tallahassee for college and it is that country but make no mistake Ebony wasn't dumb, just green like her cousin. My sis graduated in '98 and Tallahassee, Atlanta, Jax and tri-county (west palm, Broward, Miami counties) is depicted accurately in this movie. This is legit what people did. Lol I'm 39 and I know a few Ebony's and SEVERAL Diamonds (theyre nurses and realators).

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Thanks for sharing this! As I mentioned, I suspect that this is what some of the students at my school were doing too, although I didn't know first-hand.

[@Ashas.Garden]

No family member, male or female, has ever made a move for one of my paramours, BUT I have a friend whose sister (ten months younger) we suspect slept with her first husband and definitely be flirting and making inappropriate jokey-jokes with my friends second husband. I don’t understand their relationship, like how can you love me and betray me?

[@AxiomAmnesia]

This part!

[@haitianprincess215]

I’ve always hated this movie with a passion cuz Lisa Raye’s acting is one dimensional. Ugh. You guys def made it interesting lol On the topic of Ronnie dancing at the party, that would’ve been gross. That’s her brother’s party lol. That’s very personal lol. Her even being present is weird lol

[@dartdesigns20]

As a bartender for more than 8 years and a former male entertainer for another 8. The bartender is everyone's therapist and the eyes of the club we tend to know more than we admit and see/hear more than we want. Like a good therapist, we tell when it's dangerous. As a club dancer, the bartender should be your best friend and side pimp in a sense.

[@dabnailz5805]

I think most people give diamond more credit than she deserves. She did everything Eboni did. She just decided it wasnt the way to go. She had to experience and then learn. Baby girl got R@%!!# by another female. i also think thats where her fear for eboni being with the woman. her point was man or woman they can both get you. I also think she wanted to know for sure if Ronni tried Eboni. This all boils down to Eboni had to learn her own lessons. unfortunately those lessons were way worse than what diamond went through!!! I bet if diamond continued to carry herself like she did she wouldn't be as popular as she was. Pretty or not. she would have been ran threw.

[@candicecarter405]

Older cousin role model. That’s why in some hoods younger people join gangs or sold narcs with older role models or if the older cousins all worked in construction, when the younger cousin want to get money they go do that with them. She turned 18 and wanted money and a place and see what’s working for her cousin. The age is easily influenced and learning adulthood

[@MrsOrtiz-m9y]

Usually the older dancers make the real money and they barely did anything. But I do remember this one time I was sitting with a customer and there was an older dancer on stage (terrible dancer, just awful) and my customer was like “HOW OLD IS THIS WOMAN!!!????” 😂😂😂😂😂😂 “what is that dance? It looks like a mating ritual!” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jasminetalbert8612]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@treyvonwilliams]

Ebony was acting to selfish in this movie she didn't want to listen to diamond about Ronnie and Tricks then slept with her boyfriend. 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@AxiomAmnesia]

I think that's the problem when we're young... we don't wanna listen to anybody!

[@dajanedior]

You guys made me feel better about saying Ronnie was my favorite character 🤣😭❤️

[@AxiomAmnesia]

The actress who played her did her thing!!!!

[@brandongordon2392]

I ain't mad it by any means. Chrystale Wilson did freaking amazing in the role... like her character was the ultimate antagonist...

[@chinawangs]

She was such a star no lie. 🤩

[@laquintinbelser8342]

​​@@AxiomAmnesiaCrystal Wilson is her name I Kno I spelled the first name wrong but i didn't even know she was producing a show for BET currently

[@dominiquawharton]

I heard that part of the reason why Crystal was so good in the role was because she and Lisa had beef on set. Heard that fight was real, but I may be incorrect.

[@damianstarks3338]

Once again you take me back to my childhood I miss the 90s.

[@OaklynJonas]

1:29:53 going back on to my earlier comment think that scene with ebony in her draws was foreshadowing for the eventual moment, I think this moment with the banana was her realizing it could actually happen and she was thinking about that moment earlier in the movie. Probably plotting, officially.

[@spicyhot2552]

Honestly Diamond was a bad influence ...Diamond was the one who introduced Ebony to the The Players Club..And sadly Ronnie set Ebony up.

[@OaklynJonas]

I love this format of breaking down the characters in multiple videos. I loved your other breakdowns burn seeing multiple angles on the same films is so amazing!!!

[@CassieCas0106]

I clicked so fast!! I love this channel!

[@AxiomAmnesia]

❤️

[@iamstrangepeaches]

37:22 that look was a signal. They knew nobody wanted to do his party. Ebony is NEW. She don't know that the local girls know. Then when it came time... She was the only one who showed up to the party.

[@Kilasays30]

Diamond said her mama wanted Ebony there so she can keep her out of trouble so clearly she already had a bad rep with the family and as for Ebony being a stripper I think it was just she needed a job right away and Diamond could help with that I think she would've followed her big cousin anywhere as far as jobs go

[@alexanderson3993]

I could care less what other people have , I can always get it too . That’s just my mentality. Never long after other people’s things because you never know w they got it . I cant be persuaded to be a stripper, be on only fans be a escort or any of that because I’ve always had some type of respect for myself and never felt comfortable with people looking at me especially half naked

[@tiffanyguevera5007]

Maturity is realizing.... 1.) Reggie and his sidekick got revenge on diamond by getting ebony raped because she stopped them from running a train on ebony 2.) They plotted this knowing that diamond would come to the rescue 3.) They knew by ronnie getting beat up by diamond(they set ronnie up too) it would bring a lot of drama and dolla bill would come out the club so they can unalive him about the money he owes their boss.

[@skylarmccall5737]

Being from Tallahassee myself and eventually moving to Texas for school I always strongly understood Ebony’s naïveté perspective in the beginning. She really didn’t know any better.

[@Ashas.Garden]

Ebony probably did initiate the betrayal with weak ass Lance, but he ain’t have to fall for the okeydoke. I’m posting a-lot because i keep having thoughts during this discussion and you two keep posing questions.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

We love all the answers! Keep posting while you watch! 😁😁😁

[@VidWatcher01]

1:53:11 "YEAH! OOOOOOOOOOO! A WOMAAANNN!!!"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 IDK why I laughed at that so hard💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@SamDavidJr]

To answer your question: I think Ebony was already on that trajectory, cause remember when she caught her in Bed with Lance, she said she’s always with somebody’s man. So yeah, she been about that life.

[@91Definite]

Exactly 💯! It’s no surprise of that

[@Durtyredd89]

It's just so funny how Ronnie is down talking Ebony like she's a 40 yr old stripper she's only 18 😂

[@AxiomAmnesia]

😆 Ronnie was a 20 yr old pimp.

[@Durtyredd89]

@@AxiomAmnesia 🤣🤣

[@91Definite]

@@AxiomAmnesiashe might’ve been alittle older than that. Jr looked like he was 20