How Exactly is Gymnastics Judged? (A Beginner's Guide)

[@FlipFlyTumble]

(A note for the gym nerds: the D + D connection at 2:11 should be 0.1 not 0.2. Oops!)

[@honeyfromthebee]

Would be interested if you could construct a routine with a reasonable D score which would receive a perfect execution score by copying and pasting from several gymnasts.

[@EllaSlaysGymnastics]

*I LoVe GyMnAsTiCs!!!!!!* What do you think? kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJS1p6lpi9mUq7c do I deserve my score?

[@ArikaNrazzle]

I personally didn't need this video, but this is PERFECT for my family. My mom tries to understand what I'm talking about when it comes to gymnastics, but she grew up with the old system and still struggles. Thank you so much for this video!!!

[@FlipFlyTumble]

I'm glad it helps! I appreciate you sharing with others thank youuu :)

[@daniela.7631]

Congratulations, You’re the best! You’re the SUPREME!

[@verdaderoken]

Never knew gymnastics were that really complex. Much respect to the athletes!

[@sigh6475]

this video is exactly what i needed!! i unexpected found the gymternet during this years olympic trials and despite loving the sport, i knew very little on the technical side of scoring and routines so i find this to be very informative thanks so much for making this!!

[@sigh6475]

unexpectedly***

[@FlipFlyTumble]

Glad it helped!! Welcome to the gymternet ^_^

[@mrparts]

THANK YOU. You just saved me a gazillion hours of trying to explain relatives and friends how the sport is scored..

[@GymAnalysis]

Your editing is top notch, and your explanations are always super clear :) love your channel!

[@FlipFlyTumble]

That means so much. Thank you!

[@diabolicallink]

It’s amazing that anyone can watch a routine in real time and catch those deductions! It goes so fast for me that I generally can’t tell unless it’s something big like a fall

[@fll7181]

Can a certain big-money network pay for your awesome skills to add this to their programming?? Great video 👍

[@sanraita2411]

This is absolutely fantastic! Everything is communicated so clearly. Big kudos!!

[@FlipFlyTumble]

thank you so much!

[@liamneels8197]

This is perfect and stands against the test of time! Rewatching now in time for Paris. Thank you so much for investing your time into making all these videos! (Currently binging your channel 🤓)

[@FlipFlyTumble]

Thank you so much!!! :)

[@user-bg8jk8is4y]

Im a gymnast from south korea And i learn so much from your videos As a beginner this video is perfect for me 🙂

[@FlipFlyTumble]

Aww 감사합니다! I'm glad you like them & good luck with your gymnastics :)

[@Raindropharmony]

Thank you for this video! I love the use of multiple routine footage to compare and demonstrate the concepts!

[@cat_106]

This is high level production explainer. Awesome work.

[@lan6045]

This video is so clear, detailed, and extraordinary helpful. Pure pleasure to watch.

[@FlipFlyTumble]

Thank you so much!

[@1233-p5f]

3:11 is very interesting to me. Everything goes by in a flash, especially vault, it's amazing to me the judges can see all of this in the half-second the gymnast is flying through the air. I'm a total amateur gymnastics watcher, but I imagine when you know this stuff inside and out the deductions would jump out at you. I wonder if the judges have slo-mo replays to aid in making their decisions?

[@halfway7690]

Nope, judges don't have slow motion analysis. There's judges who sit at different angles of the routine. I don't know why they don't, maybe it's to save time or since that's how the audience will perceive it? As in, if you can't notice it watching in real time, we won't deduct you because there's no real point.

[@AH86ac]

This’s great and perfect... love it and thanks for this video

[@FlipFlyTumble]

Thank you so much 🙏

[@audriasaravia-montalvo4053]

so much respect for all those in gymnastics! also thanks for the video

[@Whazdat]

Hands down, you make my favorite videos

[@FlipFlyTumble]

thank youuu that means a lot

[@khariswegner2227]

Who is watching this because of the 2024 Olympics.

[@kayliefaulk5375]

Me at 1am

[@gymnasticsmontages2879]

Amazing video! Very clear & easy to follow 🙌🏼

[@FlipFlyTumble]

thank you so much!

[@martynkal.1248]

This is a brilliant breakdown! Thank you!

[@FlipFlyTumble]

thank you :) glad you like it!

[@daro2404]

Awesome quality! Love it

[@mrparts]

NBC gymnastic producers and editors should quit in shame after watching this video.

[@jessiefix3806]

This was very well done. Thank you!

[@SWYN31]

Thank you so much! I am currently learning gymnastics' judging but I don't know where to start. Reading that code of points right from the beginning made me so confused. This is so helpful. Hope there's more!🙏

[@FlipFlyTumble]

Good luck!! Hopefully my videos can help :)

[@thejingjingan]

So helpful and well made. Thanks!!

[@jajasaria]

came here because of Carlos Yulo 🇵🇭🤸‍♀🏅

[@ShukiganeWolfgang]

I came here coz I expect a cutie like u ..hehe👉👈

[@lyoness6]

Great explanation, thank you!

[@nmixx.changeupletsgo]

could you explain and give examples of “behavior/apparatus violations”? thank you 💖 love your videos btw!

[@FlipFlyTumble]

Thank you so much :) Behaviour: - Attire violations like having guards or supports that are not allowed, missing start number - remounting the podium after exercise - 'other undisciplined or abusive behaviour' (and more on section 2 page 3 of the code of points) Apparatus: - marking the beam or floor with chalk - removing springs from springboard - changing height of apparatus without permission

[@fionnaduncan8735]

The GB women's team took a 0.3 neutral deduction in the qualifications because a gymnast who was only performing one vault actually took 3 practice vaults instead of 2. They're only allowed 3 if they're performing 2 vaults.

[@FlipFlyTumble]

@@fionnaduncan8735 Wow did not know that happened

[@fionnaduncan8735]

@@FlipFlyTumble It was actually the Gadirova twins. Only one was doing 2 vaults but her sister just followed her in having 3 touches on the vault. Maybe there should be an allowance made for being identical twins ;-)

[@MademoiselleNuna]

Great video as always!

[@FlipFlyTumble]

thank you so much!!

[@sarahsperusals]

hi! question: i've seen scores with up to three decimal places, but the smallest deduction i know of is 0.1. how do the scores get the extra decimal places? is the final score an average of all the judges' scores?

[@FlipFlyTumble]

Yes it is the average :) in elite competitions, they drop the highest and lowest score and average out the remaining ones

[@sarahsperusals]

@@FlipFlyTumble thank you!!!

[@franc5148]

superuseful thank you❤

[@alehergutz]

Thx! So there IS a perfect TEN! They said there was no perfect 10 anymore. But apparently there is that possibility. I wish these media people would get things right and stop spreading inconsistencies and falsehoods. Again, thank you for this video.

[@brenden6218]

The way she dropped out of the sky 4:10

[@Marketoromagnolo]

very interesting for beginners

[@bluemountain555]

Was there any particular incident (or individual person) which triggered the revamp of the scoring system by the International Gymnastics Federation in 2006?

[@FlipFlyTumble]

i don't think it is one particular person but i guess they realised that those trying more difficult skills should be rewarded

[@joejoe570]

curious how the last standing attempt or balancing is marked(After the final jump or summersault). should they land on both legs or one leg is fine?

[@superpilot7379]

Does anyone know of how I can find a list of all of the A skills, B skills, etc. Thank you!

[@denisk1244]

Do gymnasts compete in every event/movement or can they specialize?

[@fbkintanar]

What are those green squiggles starting 0:25? It looks like a descriptive notation for skills. If there is a systematic way of describing routines visually (like I've heard of Laba notation for dance, I don't know how it works), please make a video about it and also some videos that use it to annotate representative routines (for me, I'd most like to see floor, vault and parallel bars). Like it would nicely enhance your video about Emma Malabuyo's E-score.

[@FlipFlyTumble]

yup, it is gymnastics shorthand and each symbol represents a different skill. I actually have done a few of videos with this. You can see them on my channel :)

[@JoseBarbosa-iu5jb]

Everything was literally amazing but just one detail. From the 8 elements she mentioned, on beam and floor, 3 of have to be leaps, jumps or turns.

[@honeydewpai]

good video gj

[@FlipFlyTumble]

thank you!

[@maxlawrence4223]

Gonna show this to my mom before we go to watch worlds together

[@Winstonjedits]

Great vid

[@sachinsutube]

If e.g. requirement for number of element is 7 and gymnasts does 9 elements then does the deductions get counted for all 9 elements?

[@FlipFlyTumble]

yup! everything that is performed can get deducted

[@fahrulrazi9283]

Can you teach us how to count CV?

[@Rocky12323]

I’m sorry is that hieroglyphics

[@DoitfortheAnthem]

Animation used is helpful .

[@gvimpala]

i really really really LOVE this! Because i have young kids, i want to translate this in Dutch. In what programe did you make this and is it possible you send me the original file so i can make it in Dutch? of coursseee i will name your name in the end!

[@FlipFlyTumble]

Hi thank you! I think you could add Dutch subtitles on this video if you would like? By going to settings>subtitles>add translation. I used a professional software called Adobe After Effects

[@MJMdeacs]

Hi - very informative video! Question: the video mentioned that the E score on floor & beam also include “artistry deductions” … really?!?? Judges really deduct for this?? So for artistry, judges want to see “eye contact”? Eye contact w who, exactly - the judges or the crowd?? How is a gymnast supposed to play a character *and* have eye contact w the judges while she’s on the balance beam? (I have never seen a gymnast do this) Do judges really make execution deductions for things like this? If so, can you give some examples? I’m just curious bc gymnastics scoring is so subjective anyway, but *this* just seems … like a stretch.

[@FlipFlyTumble]

Yes, they do! This is a more subjective part compared to other deductions but they generally make sense. I just checked, the 'eye contact' deduction was changed to 'failure to engage the audience'. My interpretation of it is that they should not be looking down at the floor and I guess I should feel engaged while watching the routine. Judges may not like the routine personally, but they have to objectively judge whether it's performed well. The eye contact and character deductions are on floor exercise but not on balance beam. Balance beam has its own set of artistry deductions, although there is some overlap between beam and floor. Feel free to ask more questions if you need to :)

[@Fvhlipe]

Ofc, as they should

[@kelleyryberg5094]

Excellent video. Thank you!

[@FlipFlyTumble]

thank you for watching :)

[@shmyshmys]

What software do you use to edit? jw

[@FlipFlyTumble]

Adobe After Effects :)

[@EllaSlaysGymnastics]

To all the judges out there- does this routine deserve it’s score? I’m so torn but I don’t know anything about judging. What would you score it? kzbin.info1zNrYA6nn10?feature=share

[@Hdw1998]

Do judges get told the routine the gymnast will perform in advance?

[@FlipFlyTumble]

Only on vault (not exactly sure why). On the other events we just judge what we see. Judges do watch podium training so they might have an idea of what will be performed.

[@Hdw1998]

@@FlipFlyTumble Thank you. I imagine it can be difficult to keep track of what was performed with many moves happening so quickly. Do they have access to replays?

[@FlipFlyTumble]

@@Hdw1998 No replays! Only if there is an inquiry for the D score, a separate panel of judges get to look at the replay and decide whether to accept it or not

[@fionnaduncan8735]

@@Hdw1998 There are judges who are only looking at the 'D' score and not the execution. There's a 'D' jury and an 'E' jury. They both put their totals into the score. It's the 'D' score that can be challenged by the gymnast or their representatives. Sometimes a score can take a very long time to come through and often it's because the judges haven't been in agreement and will replay the routine to check.

[@janetslater129]

Although I'm in gymnastics, I still don't like how everything is "for the points." To me, I don't see a lot of creativity, and lots of poor execution. Yet, these gymnasts are still awdarded the big points. Plus, the scoring system is way too complicated for most people, and I think it's very detriemental to the sport.

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