How far from the bow should you run your dovetail sight?

[@stick__shooter]

Good stuff! I started out running my sights as far out as I could and never felt really steady on target. When I switched to a Tommy Hogg (my first slider) I mounted it as close as I could and I feel much more confident with my hold, and I feel like the bow balances better.

[@timwalter1487]

I have that same issue I'm gonna try moving my sight in a bit.

[@ansleydunn947]

A video about stabilizer differences would help me out a lot. I enjoy your content dude

[@InsideOutPrecision]

I actually made one a while back, should be in our video section fairly early on! Let me know if you have any more questions after watching it.

[@okwhynot.]

Thanks man. I had a lot of questions, and you answered them all

[@Rippinmolips]

Great video. The further out for me also makes my 42 year old eyes see the pin more clearly. 😁

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Yeah it definitely helps for people who's eyes are getting worse!

[@timboekhout7249]

Absolutely! I was just going through the comments to make sure someone had not already brought this up.

[@greekmaster1001]

Damnnmn I just watched for the first time couple of your videos and I just can't believe I never followed you......well now I'm subscribed......can't wait to binge watch all your videos......you make the best explained videos EVER. THANK YOU

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Glad they're helping Angelo!

[@NewportStudio]

I always give the vids a thumbs up before I watch them. I'm not wrong.

[@dasklima5751]

I was thinking between 9" and 6" (Axcel Achieve XP) and now I know I buy the longer one. Thank you.

[@gianfrancoingegneri3291]

Awesome answers. Thanks for the clear explanation.

[@saadhubi]

Had the bow set up at a pro shop. It performed just fine kzbin.infoUgkxQEKUoxLWwayEDZR0NKB-5limn4MBU-2L . And I would say this is a good starting now that I could pass down to my son when he is older.But the package was missing the release and a nock was missing from one arrow.Dealing with customer support was terrible. They suggested I buy a new release rather than correct their own quality control issue because it’s to expensive for the. to ship it out from China.Update: manufacturer got back to me and resolved the issue. I retract the above statement.

[@marcelovillegas7531]

Thanks man,now you made me more confused.😀

[@ghstz7191]

Thanks again. Awesome channel

[@scottoosterholf9365]

Thanks that was super helpful.

[@Mud-LOL]

Good info thanks!

[@Hardcourage]

Thanks, great video

[@KevinMillard68]

thaks for explaing this i have a FAST eddie and its been a nightmare we had it set to show 3 dots at the back and talk about a problem and the company and the instructions dont explain any of this to us which can explain alot of the problems i was not able to get 60 yards until i jacked upto 60 lbs on my bow i was 1.5 feet low then adjusted my limbs then i hit and i noticed as well how unstable my bow was as well so iam going to set up all over again which i have to any how because once i did calibrate the bow i could not even move the dial past 60 yards with the stie tap or my arrows would hit the front of the site so now this exaplins it all.

[@cdp50359]

very well explained. I try to tell everyone that has trouble with the windage that its most likely their torque on the grip

[@fjosephstockbridge5592]

Also having the sight farther forward can help to get the sight adjustment wheel out from behind the bow quiver

[@philippbayer866]

Love your videos.

[@KowboyUSA]

Run mine out just far enough that the ring fits inside whichever size vision corrective lens insert is in the peep: closer to the bow with the larger diameter insert offers a wider field of view; a potential advantage when hunting - further out with the smaller diameter insert gives a narrower field of view with amplified pin movement; a potential advantage for precision shot placement.

[@trigger3654]

Nice vid . Helped with my decision about the dovetail . How about a vid on setting up a slider and what pin should be the floater I'm really new to archery so anything helps thanks. Keep the awesome vids coming learning quite a bit

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Run the bottom pin as your floater. You'll get a lot more range out of your sight!

[@trigger3654]

Thanks everyone!

[@wcwcgarner2717]

I have the spot Hogg fast Eddie xl double pin. And I run it about half way out. I have a 29inch draw at 65 pounds .on my BOWTECH REVOLT in performance. I hunt elk and mule deer I take shots at 70 yards. But I go to the archery club every day and shoot.

[@mohammedmaajidh6195]

Thank you for making such a great content, really appreciate it. I have a quick question. does moving in or out have any impact on the magnification. like moving out make the target big and moving in makes it small?

[@TheBeardedHen]

I would love to see you review the CBE engage hybrid

[@InsideOutPrecision]

I have set up a few of them. Not the biggest fan. The pins are wire thin and dim, and the 2and and third axis adjustments are difficult to set and rattle loose if you dont constantly check them.

[@2ndAveScents]

@@InsideOutPrecision thanks for the feedback there, a video would still be awesome, I almost bought the sight, thankfully I found your reply!

[@allywilkeforsenate]

I hate all my CBE sights.Tune to try Axcel.

[@RockyMountainWest13]

Thank you

[@brianguest238]

Can u get ur sight doped and then move the dovetail in and out and not effect the accuracy at all?

[@jordy4054]

Solid info.

[@MsCrazyAddy]

Great Video! I’m running the double pin fast Eddie xl. My problem is it didn’t have great set up instructions. Does it make a difference where you mount the sight housing on the slider? I’m shooting a helix ultra 65#, 279 FPS. and am having to twist my arrow for clearance at 75yds and 80 is about the max I can get. Is moving the dovetail closer my best option for increasing distance and clearance?

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Yeah the amount of distance you can get out of a sight has a lot to do with peep height and speed. If you're already halfway or a third of the way down down on your slider just to be on at 20, then moving the housing down will give you a little more travel. Just make sure to re level your 2nd axis

[@wy9798]

You're not kidding the instructions were garbage.

[@kevinwright8955]

Great video, thanks. Would you recommend a magnifier lens on this type of sight to get a better sight picture down range? And, if so, what magnification would you recommend?

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Never for hunting. But for target most people use a 4x

[@810firefarm9]

i prefer my sightrail out to the end....it makes fine tuning more precise and i feel personally it makes me a better shooter because i focus more on proper mechanics and hold instead of a "good enough" point of view...having the sight pins closer doesnt let you see your precise aim point as well the farther out your target is as it covers more of the area your trying to aim at...in my expierence

[@InsideOutPrecision]

You can run your sight out the same distance, maybe even further with the bridge lock.

[@justinvzu01]

I've been shooting target compound for a little over a month now, and I personally run a PSE Xpression at 27" DL and 45Lbs DW. I have my Achieve XP set one click in, because I really need that feedback, so I went with a 9" bar, I like the zoom factor the most, and I can feel my shots really well with it there. Even shooting a 6x scope at that lenght away, I'm very stable. I have the cheapest stabilizer set on my bow, and I guess it just works perfectly for me. I do worry though that I'll need to push it in for 70m(about 70 yards.) I'll be moving my Xpression up to 60Lbs around next winter though, so I guess I'll just have to suffer through it. I'll have to up it to 50lbs at the very least. Overall I'm very happy with the sight out that far. Even with bad eyes I need a clarifier though, cause I shoot with glasses.

[@jonpatterson5668]

Great info man.... what is the difference before it starts making a difference..... I mean would like an inch or so make a difference

[@InsideOutPrecision]

You know I don't have an exact number for you, but I'd say two slots will definitely make a difference in point of impact and pin gap.

[@ira32573257]

Correct me if I’m wrong, wouldn’t moving the sight closer to the bow spread your pins apart and moving the sight away from the bow bring your pins closer together?

[@bobbymartin8042]

Other way around...

[@dasklima5751]

Thanks

[@jimbrown2604]

OMG!!! 1/2” to the right at 85 yards is a problem? I should resign as a bowhunter 😔

[@TroubadorToday]

Moving the site in (or out), do you need to re-adjust the peep when you do that? Or do you need to recalibrate your site tape? I’ve been shooting (per instruction) my Fast Eddie all the way out, but am a more novice shooter (3D). If I move it half way in do I need to redo my bow set up? Thank you for all these great videos!!

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Message me on instagram. Inside_out_precision

[@timboekhout7249]

My thinking is that longer sight plane equals better accuracy. Think of rear sight distance to front sight on a handgun and rear sight distance to front sight distance on a rifle. A rifle will always be more accurate. Rear sight being your peep and front sight being your pin.

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Its not inherently more accurate. A perfectly still pin that's 2" from your riser or 12" from your riser will hit in the same place. However, the further the pin is from the riser (to a certain extent) the more movement you will see, and its more sensitive to torque. Because of that, a solid shooter gets more feedback from the sight based on their point of impact, thus making it "more accurate".

[@BearNDownArchery]

However how you hold a pistol to a rifle is very different. You are holding your bow the same way. But now your sight is way out there. Unless you have perfect form this will always be harder to repeat. Esp as a bowhunter. Sometime you have to contort you body and be in different positions to make a shot. This putting a different torque on your bow than you did in the backyard practicing. When the sight is closer in it is more forgiving.

[@talisikid1618]

Not true. In firearms, shorter is just as accurate as long.

[@billyatwell8659]

I like running mine further out, but it won't fit in my hard travel case that way. I'm debating whether it's worth taking the sight on and off for the hunts where I have to fly, or if I should just run it close enough to the riser that it fits in the case. I'm not worried about yardage, as I am not likely to shoot beyond 60 for a hunt. Thoughts?

[@InsideOutPrecision]

We’ll besides losing distance and being a pain to fit in your case, running the sight further out is less forgiving when it comes to torque. The further out the sight, the more a small amount of grip torque will affect the point of impact

[@bzrd7501]

Was this recorded at the bow hunters pro shop in Knoxville TN?

[@InsideOutPrecision]

No, at The Bow Rack in Springfield, OR.

[@Gr1mmWolf08]

Could you make a video on how to use the spot Hogg 3 pin sight pins? Just got the hog father 3 pin and the pins are difficult to figure out

[@jkpisces]

is it a must to run a dove tail? what if there i no peep?

[@jasonbellows7]

Have the fast Eddie xl single stack 3 pin slider. Currently have it in the middle. If I move it out more drastically will I have to re sight the bow in and change sight tape?

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Yes you’d need to re do your sight tape

[@jasonbellows7]

@@InsideOutPrecision thanks man! Appreciate the content!

[@valexx9776]

i have a vxr 28 my draw is 29 inch and my peep is almost all the way to the top of my string and i where glasses im having a hard time shooting with the peep is there a better peep to use with glasses also i will be useing the 2 or 3 pin xl fast edd with my bow what do you think ?> also the peep is kinda blurry before i got glasses the peep was crisp , The sight pins are clear and target

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

I just bought a dovetail, my question is "how do I know where to vertically attach to the vertical bar?

[@1william89]

Been wondering about this myself, finally got the video for it. Question if you see this or anyone. At 20 yards I can drill the target abs stack em, at 40 with a 7 degree downward angle I’m stacking arrows...5 inches to the Left. Drives me nuts. Have not set my 3rd axis but not sure 7 degrees is gona do that.

[@seowonmin223]

Little late but tuning your clicker/rest can affect how your arrows fly at different ranges

[@AZHighlandHomestead]

If the bow falls forward after the shot with the bar out there pretty far, is it a good idea to add rear stab weight?

[@Fred-eg9sx]

so I use a single pin sight, and at 100 yards, the housing is in almost in the way of the arrow. So if I wanna shoot further away, I should bring the sight closer to get a more packed tape???

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Correct

[@KevinCasey64]

If I sight the sight in with it set say on the third spot on the dovetail bar and decide to move it farther out will it effect the sight of impact?

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Yes. Thengap between your pins increases the further out the sight is.

[@KevinCasey64]

@@InsideOutPrecision Thank you

[@benjohnson575]

you left out how sight radius impacts sight alignment and precision shooting. Sight radius and the effects on bow balance are the most important, however bow balance can be corrected with the right stabilizer.

[@salserito01]

Just a quick question. what's your opinion about adding an extension to the bow sight to move it forward a little bit. I love my react 5 but I can barely see the ring through the pip sight, and I've been considering it to extend it. thanks in advance

[@theguyinmaine]

Checking this out because I want to add a 3rd, axis 1 5/8" length, to an HHA Ultra, wondered if there was any cons. Thanks

[@Justin-kv1xy]

If I change my mounting position from 3 to 4. Will that throw off my 2nd and 3rd axis? Or will it stay true for all mounting positions?

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Should stay the same for all positions

[@bobbycampbell175]

I have a matthews halon 32 at 60lb and a 30" draw I've been thinking of going single pin I hunt white tail is their any advantage to single over multi pin I've noticed that I've missed by hitting the wrong pin but again this is my 2nd year bow hunting

[@redoubtranger8903]

Bobby, I am not a pro so take this as experience speaking. Been bowhunting seriously for 8 years since I retired...I shoot a Mathews Chill R at 70 lbs and a VXR at 70 lbs. I use a Trophy Ridge single pin and a seven pin. From my experience...I always shoot a single pin better, however the shot windows where I hunt are narrow and you have a short period of time to use both the laser range finder and then change the single pin to the distance you want. A single pin will necessitate either knowing your distances based on rock, tree limb...anything...to know what distance you are shooting without using the laser range finder....or...you will need to practice enough to know that if your pin is set at 40 and you think the deer is at 35 you know you need to aim X inches lower without changing the pin. If you have time to do both...laser range and also change the pin I think the single pin is ideal....especially with the ranges you can get on a single pin. There is no scientific reason I should be shooting better with the single pin...may be the bow, the arrow setup or FOC...but I have better sight of target and less clutter...possibly.

[@BStables1]

If I move my dovetail in more/closer to me, will I have to redo my sight tape or just move my pins around and keep the same sight tape?

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Youd have to re do your sight tape

[@BStables1]

Cool. Thanks for all the great info, keep It coming.

[@castlefrank9302]

nice video！May I ask what's your opinion on the best dovetail sight to start with considering limited budget ( around 300 USD)

[@brooklynbornoutdoors3609]

Black Gold Verdict $249 great sight

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Yeah other a Spot Hogg fast Eddy or Black Gold ascent Verdict. Both hard to beat.

[@jordanpowell228]

Black gold ascent verdict doesn't come std with a dovetail if im not mistaken, although bg's direct mount is one of the nicer ones. The CBE engage hybrid is pretty nice and right at 300 and has a lot of premium features

[@mtsmts3864]

What size peep are you using to go along with the Fast Eddie?

[@InsideOutPrecision]

I use a ⅛" for the single pin housing. If you're running the multi pin housing you'll probably want to go with a ³/16 housing

[@mtsmts3864]

@@InsideOutPrecision Thanks for the reply! I'm loving the videos

[@ulriksauerzapfe1408]

Which kind of 5 pin visir your using in the video?

[@kevindown2755]

It’s a Spot Hogg Fast Eddie site. Spot Hogg is located in Harrisburg, Oregon about a 40 minute drive from The Bow Rack. Rugged, well made, will last you the lifetime of your bow.

[@guitarwilly81]

Do you run a shop? If so where at?

[@InsideOutPrecision]

I work at the Bow Rack in Springfield, OR

[@Zombie34343]

What about the Trophy Ridge React Pro 5 pin sight, I believe I have it on 3 to the last. What are your recommendations for this type of sight for hunting.

[@InsideOutPrecision]

Again, it's going to be personal preference on where you like it depending on all the factors I mentioned in this video. It's a good sight though!

[@rakkup7572]

What’s your take on the IQ retina technology which is already being copied and sold by Topoint for half the price as IQ? Any feedback on if it’s a worthwhile addition to sights from customers running those sights? Or is that something you might consider a sales and marketing strategy to sell more sights? Kinda like a laser on a handgun past 10 yards lol

[@InsideOutPrecision]

I'm not a huge fan of the IQ. Just another thing to spend extra time on at full draw that distracts you from focusing on The target. If you spend time developing a consistent anchor point where your peep in center around your sight and your sight is center around the target, you won't have any issues.

[@rakkup7572]

Inside Out Precision super cool , thanks for replying and that’s what I was wondering . Do these retinas speed up the shot process or the opposite? I already need to consciously get on target quickly because of just what you said. There’s already enough stuff preoccupying my attention when I should already be on target, and focusing there before I start exhausting my shot energy causing me to have a heck of a time with my float staying where I need it. (Total run on sentence lol) Thanks for your input, you have a killer channel and a great way of getting this info understood easily. Precision IS a decision!

[@sscconnections9322]

TArget panick

[@InsideOutPrecision]

What about it??