How Fast Can You Get 1 BILLION Pops In BTD6?

[@tbush6657]

The sun gods lost pops might be from what I'll call "abandoned pops" that happens when a tower shoots and disappears before hitting, thus the damage is dealt but the pops don't have a tower placed to attribute to, so the pops aren't recorded anywhere. This is most obvious when using the UCAV as it fires power yet slow missiles and often disappears before it's last missiles hit. The damage is recorded and attfibuted to the invisible sub-tower UCAV (or Marine gunner/Sentry Turret for other towers which can be viewd), and added to the parent tower, but if the turret or UCAV disappears before it's projectile hits and damage is dealt/recorded, the damage is still dealt but not recorded to the now non-existing tower and you may notice as a result your CHIMPS popcount is sub-2 megapops which shouldn't be possible

[@Zeldrake]

Na, it's just that the planes as part of military sacrifice don't count for pops for whatever reason. You can quickly see this in sandbox. I also suspect this is why people diss on Military sacrifices so much, as the planes literally don't count their pops which are well over half the point of the military sacrifice

[@MackanRules]

Oh wow i never thought about that... Interesting!

[@bobosniff3336]

Also like it probably wasn’t the main problem(the main problem is prob the one above) but after round 140 it is kinda random so

[@zeeshi4450]

19:09 that was out of nowhere LMFAO💀

[@Not_Nik0]

he's not wrong. I love edging

[@Twitch.0845]

Bomk

[@Furious_Fang101]

EXACTLY

[@ThatGuyDylanFR]

Ik

[@EmnauelArazi]

Who gon tell him

[@jimmytaco6738]

Personally, I don't need a billion pops. My one dad is good enough for me.

[@kulekid6917]

good comment

[@trafaIgar_D_water_Iaw]

damn, thats true.

[@enzocicchinelli8974]

Lucky bastard

[@Bupboy]

Preach

[@scottmeyer4192]

TACO

[@TrixterTheFemboy]

bro the random "I heard you guys like edging" is fuckin' wild

[@ericestrada3530]

It's not a MackanRules video if he doesn't accidentally create a regrow farm

[@FriedMacNBeans]

The fact that he said help got me dying😂😂

[@hiimapop7755]

Busted my ass out laughing when that happened LMAO

[@iwersonsch5131]

Double HP Moabs > Easy

[@iwersonsch5131]

got it round 244 on park path when i did it

[@zhiqiangchen6235]

Yep. There’s also a claim that could be made for monkey knowledge being disabled

[@genio2509]

​@@zhiqiangchen6235Better, reset knowledge and get it all excepting Moab sabotage (or however it's called)

[@BirdBro2]

@@genio2509 impoppable too.

[@genio2509]

@@BirdBro2 Why? It doesn't increase Moab HP or RBE in any way

[@victorfromheart]

Since the first 100 rounds give you just 2 mio pops (0,2%), I'd just focus on having a setup that deletes the rounds as fast as possible, till the high hp RZOMGs come.

[@baconxd.2927]

19:11 i never in my life expected you to say "edging"

[@nir1790]

how did you watch 19 minutes of the video when it got uploaded 7 minutes ago

[@Shadowsans99]

@@nir1790 speedrunner strats

[@tomoruin]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIqmf3egqLCeo9ksi=9XPi0COpUwuV3FV_ This is when he first said edging

[@glefyr]

edging to this comment rn

[@Shadowsans99]

@@glefyr i cast 9 months pregnant

[@RedEyeStorm7]

I know you don't want pops on Adora but seeing you get a VTSG and not ascending Adora felt criminal

[@mr_pigman1013]

0:04 bro re-recorded the into after doing the rest of the recording and thought we wouldnt notice

[@tridinh1011]

what?

[@skillerwiller9882]

He had this achievement before, just not the secret one.

[@MeanWhy]

@@skillerwiller9882 he means the veteran levels

[@mr_pigman1013]

Midway thru he points out how he’s almost veteran level, but we can see at the start he’s already veteran, so we can assume that he recorded the intro after

[@erierierierierie]

thats very common

[@rmlgaming2091]

9:25 the top path ices are really getting it on

[@greenleaffisk7166]

Ok, ezili will make a big difference for the BMA as the insides of the bads are worth almost half the pops

[@Lt_Koro]

aint no way you played this long without small bloons. you are a madman

[@Huibui_BTD6]

27:27 gg, crazy that u weren't veteran before

[@DSpeed.]

You should’ve chosen Apopalypse for the gamemode, as the no waiting between rounds really speeds things up.

[@joylechanceux4805]

You could try doing a 2 gigapops Basically a 2 mega pops but 2 billion instead of 2 million Or maybe 200 million if 2 billion is too much

[@LegendoLight]

"I heard you guys like edging" caught me off guard lmao

[@20oxide36]

Idk because I haven't tested yet, but wouldn't the strat be to basically instakill the first 100 or so rounds as quickly as possible instead of getting stalls and letting the BMA get the pops? Considering the first 100 rounds take so long to pop with the BMA and only amount to around 2 million pops, I would assume it would be best to ramp up scaling as quickly as possible before letting the BMA get the majority of pops using stalls. This also lets you farm faster (realtimewise) because the rounds go by much faster.

[@DagothXil]

Trying to give the tower all the pops is the strat if you want the lowest _round_ , but if you want the lowest _time_ it's always better to anti-stall the rounds so the tower is always getting maximum DPS. This is doubly true for the BMA and Navarch because you want to move along ramping as quickly as possible for their one-shots to yield the most pops.

[@Wither_5torm]

The reason that the pops on the VTSG were so low is because the planes don’t count towards pops (which is weird I know) Edit: turns out this is false I did my research a year ago and didn’t see the change in the update logs so thought it was the same

[@kittykat1587]

thats just blatantly untrue. i just tested it and the planes definitely count towards the main towers pops.

[@Nite-Fox]

Tested the TSG in sandbox and planes count towards the pops, there's no debate over that. But something is scatchy there. I don't really know how pops are counted, but they are different on almost every test I run. Not as significantly as in the video but it's still weird.

[@_-KR-_]

21:24 Mackan finally sees the light! 😅

[@thegreatautismo224]

15:52 What're those particles on top of the Carrier Flagship?

[@paumb64]

probably gerry fire

[@dantebrown6692]

11:34 "It's giving... so much purrr" -MackanRules

[@Halfabraincell719]

1:26 could be wrong about this but I believe that BMA always targets the strongest bloon with his red bloon potion

[@Stimulation334]

Lotis island or spice island you can fit so much more boats. And with geraldo totems you can get a level 100 as early as round 110

[@Irillie]

2:35 That's all you need to know about BMA. No further explanation is required.

[@Nightmare85211]

Isab actually already did this challenge a few years ago so its funny yall had the same idea

[@Bidens_Diaper]

There's only so many things to do with monkeys and balloons

[@TheSportsBreakDown]

Fax

[@adolfo777nica]

​@@TheSportsBreakDownFact*

[@A_Good_Name550]

2:37 the bma threw the red bloon potion as he threw the acid pool potion which was a little behind the moab it might be the reason the bma missed

[@Pike1309]

“I heard you guys like edging” is crazy 💀💀

[@Idi0tperson1]

My dad got me into Bloons, now I’m kind of good, I’m excited to hit 1 billion pops

[@LeeTheSecond]

My dad has diabeetes

[@dahelmang]

It seems to me the bottom parh beast handler would have been really helpful here. It could drag the zomgs away from your defenses to give the BMA more of a chance with them after they come out of the BADs.

[@johndavidallison7601]

@2:59 killed me😂

[@qMendy]

Do you have a unclipped version of the BMA? I wanted to know what you sacrificed for the Sun God and True Sun God. Loved the video!

[@tomoruin]

I am LOVING theses daily uploads

[@thatoneguy2945]

My ranking : 1 navarch cuz hook 2:bma basically navarch but worse 3 vtsg bc it does the same amount of damage and the others oneshot no matter the health The cost wont matter cuz u can get them till round 100 and 2mil pops wont rlly mattet

[@hex_8]

Second time Heartstopper has ever unironically been used:

[@thebigbonk]

I think the navarch is going to do he best because the insta kill on the bad balloons will help speed through the rounds

[@watsonjunior85]

The pops the projectiles of the mini sun avatar gets after it despawns doesn't count for the main tower, it also happens for the sentry champion and the engi paragon

[@wypmangames]

now im curious how well some random towers that may not be the best at popping power can be my ideas are: decent -> 5-0-2 tack, 5-0-2 bomb, , 5-0-2 heli, 5-0-2 ace and 2-5-0 wizard could be amazing -> 5-2-0 spike factory, 2-5-0 super and 2-0-5 super hard/sucky towers 5-0-2 druid and 2-5-0 glue (and honourable mention to a 0-0-0 dart monkey) i would love to see serious attempts with the 5-2-0 spike factory as it is a bloon destroyer and im curious how excessively long attempts would be for 5-0-2 druid, if its possible at all with 2-5-0 glue, and how things go with a 0-0-0 dart

[@Zeldrake]

ISAB has a whole bunch of vids about maxbuffing certain towers, check it out!

[@sonicmeerkat]

honestly with how exponential it is the best strategy is probably to speedrun the rounds so when you do get enough money to god boost the alc the moabs have much higher health.

[@thiscommentisempty]

I think ban is 1st in time and rounds then vtsg is second in rounds then boat is nd in time and vtsg is third in rounds and boat is third in time

[@memegamerthe3rd777]

Shouldn't you play on hard for the higher hp moabs or is the cost too big a downside

[@AzFYouTube]

I’m not sure how you make BMA usable in chimps or in free play. I’d like to think that making it give the same value as defeating a Moab would help but that might make it too overpowered for CHIMPS. Maybe a monkey knowledge? Or you could change it to a damage over time effect, like a much stronger bloon solver? Because right now its niche isn’t really helpful given the need to buff paragons in free play and it being actively harmful in chimps.

[@guilhermesoeiro1709]

If navarch was in a map close to the entrance, the rounds would go by faster and ir could probably beat VTSG

[@Sotzaurio]

The vengeful sungod temple didnt have pops at the beggining meaning the pops reset once it becomes vengeful

[@jackdegreef]

You should've just put a bunch of defenses at front of map to get through rounds as fast as possible. You can just drop BMA well after round 100

[@scottmeyer4192]

0:26 well what do you think!? Vtsg

[@mr_pigman1013]

aint ISAB did this once

[@LuhRipX555]

similar, but I don't think he did it as fast as possible, it was can you get 1 billion only using 1 tower or sumn

[@skallaskalla3278]

wouldn't it be more efficient to speed run the first rounds as fast as possible and then build your BMA on later rounds

[@tobiasschonfeld4262]

Hey mackanrules the pops of the spectres or flying fortress isnt counting that is why there is so much round diffrence

[@Sl4ts_]

wouldn't it be faster to play on a higher difficulty, since the MOAB-class bloons have higher base HP?

[@monst3r_child832]

do you have to get a billion pops in a single game? or is it overall?

[@EpicSence]

Does the homeland defence +100% pops buff not effect paragons?

[@tomoruin]

No, only paragon of power and other paragons can buff paragons

[@Zipso66]

I love watching unscripted MackanRules

[@madladthad2403]

huh, ig I didn't realize how good the BMA was for cleanup of non BAD's

[@ldunnoknow]

shouldn't you play with double hp moabs?

[@ITrySometimes]

Im so used to bloonstubers being hyper family-friendly, so I was cought way off guard whenever mackan swore.

[@Efwin197]

Did anyone else’s quality get deep fried for about 10 seconds during the boat part of the vid

[@WilliamPresby]

It's the planes from the vtsg (military sacrifices)they don't count for pops also the tier 4 temples planes steal pops too

[@kinetictheory9012]

They do count. I have never had a problem with the pop count from the planes.

[@marxunemiku]

the losses come from when the sun avatars have projectiles flying but then despawn, so the pops happen but are credited to nothing

[@Tiernan-qh2em]

I’m pretty sure the planes from the Sun Temple TSG and VTSG don’t count towards the total pops. I might be wrong but I think they don’t.

[@kinetictheory9012]

They do count.

[@trashedx6691]

3:00 😆

[@martinshoosterman]

I think the vtsg will be the fastest, I know that the bma usually outdoes it in total pops, but but I think those are usually mostly stolen pops more than they are necessary pops. I think the bma will win in time, depending on how you deal with the bads. My prediction will be time: bma. Vtsg. Boat. Rounds: vtsg, bma, boat

[@jok3r84_]

But why was adorah not turned into vengeful adorah?

[@ecerwcvrverve]

This achievement is much easier than you think

[@icenovice]

Why not Obyn for the VTSG run?

[@icenovice]

Oh right, huge sacrifice buff

[@uhmz1212]

Took me a long time cause at that time it was bugged or something so it did not count. Support eventually helped me 😅

[@JohnJohn-r4l]

Alch for rounds, boat or vtsg for time

[@Diminisherrr]

"Lissan propali" 😂

[@Elezshar]

Also easy to do on shattering shells, blooncin, XXL trap

[@noahhirons8223]

A bit late but It should be two things, VTSG plane pops dont count and unlucky Freeplay RBE

[@CourierCat-isGod]

what is my purpose Guys i only have margarine

[@ajleenxnifer9081]

pass the butter

[@lorcanbailey1699]

Pass the butter

[@tomoruin]

Pass the butter

[@xsfanberscretcer92]

Pass the butter

[@HTG_Wolfi]

Pass the butter

[@nathanaelraymainegentles]

bro is NOT upgrading the banana farms fully (insert disappearing emoji meme here)

[@playonix1292]

Adora changes her form by the temple if in range

[@AngelovandeKasteele]

First to 1B: boat paragone Second: VTSG Last: BMA

[@YoungShmells]

YOU NEVI R GAVE PERMA BREW TO The BMA ☠️☠️☠️ it was out of range

[@Furious_Fang101]

19:10 WAS SO RANDOM AND SO OUT OF POCKET

[@TheWap]

Now do the Sapper achievement speedrun

[@mrmountain781]

Lmao 3:49 got me 🤣🤣

[@notfajnyyy]

My bets: Earliest round: 1st Navarch 2nd VTSG 3rd Bloon master alchemist fastest time 1st BMA 2nd Navarch 3rd VTSG

[@AntiWareWolf]

how it the monkeopolis did permaspike solo a bad

[@Pajon03]

it had enough spikes saved up since nothing else reached it

[@bevstarr7583]

Congrats for getting 156 aka purple thing

[@samdavies6296]

I don’t think the planes count towards the VTSG’s pops

[@tomoruin]

They do

[@rmlgaming2091]

28:10 i think there can be a lot of variation in freeplay, but I'd like confirmation

[@johannesdatblue4164]

1 billion pops on supermines next?

[@tomoruin]

You can use the igt to negate lag

[@iamannocent2913]

wouldn't playing on apopalypse be way faster?

[@DontKnow-lz1vh]

Navarch?

[@LeonardoNguy]

BRO HOW DO YOU GET A ROUND 50 BMA??????????

[@marxunemiku]

you can get 6 figures before round 40. also fairly easy to do on easy mode because everythings so cheap

[@ShinyTillDawn]

How far can you get in BTD6 on custom maps?

[@erierierierierie]

i believe raxzor did a video on that (with slightly different rules, probably)

[@Woah9394]

​@@erierierierieriehe didn't finish tho He only got to round 1000 despite the fact that you can get much further

[@erierierierierie]

@@Woah9394 doesn't the freeplay scaling cap eventually?

[@ishanballa8017]

I think you should’ve focused on one thing, either rounds or time and not both Edit: Oh you just said it youself😂

[@Elsillestgato]

Free dart monkey:🗿

[@kuzeyrl]

fastest: bloon master. earliest round: navarch

[@kuzeyrl]

damn it

[@Healesstktk]

Navearch 3 vtsg 2 bloon populus 1

[@ImpoppableIsNothing]

Hey! I sent an email to your outlook address about the biggest BDT6 glitch of the past (with a video proof). I don’t know if you did read it, maybe it’s in the spam folder. bye!

[@LeeTheSecond]

can you make a video on skibidi toilet pls

[@thecorneliusexperience]

19:09 😟

[@sooyster4033]

BMA for the win, my prediction

[@WootmansayWOOT]

Edging Mackan

[@magician531]

You can only get four boats in that too pool

[@drnokia2100dr]

Navarch for both