How Fast is a 320HP Tuned Alfa Romeo 4C | Back With a Vengeance + The Fast List is Online

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

Experience this beastly Alfa 4C for yourself >>> turo.com/us/en-us/car-rental/parsippany-troy-hills-nj/alfa-romeo/4c/666699?searchId=AA9gadR_

[@TINOKB24]

Great video! I have a stage 2 as well from EC. It looks like you accelerated in dynamic mode not race. It is recommend to use race mode to unlock full potential and quicker shifts. Also a Smaller rim and sticky tire go a long way! From a dig I eat a lot a lot of cars off line that have better numbers on paper!!

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

I should've mentioned that I did race mode as well and the times were actually pulled from race mode. I only showed Dynamic mode in the video because the lighting was compromised for the race mode shot. Dynamic mode was about 2-3 tenths of a second slower all around.

[@colby749]

How do u use race mode?

[@Dahoomi21]

Damn it's like I'm watching a movie not a KZbin video ; you deserve a like and a sub.

[@nolantizing]

Gorgeous cinematography and storytelling as always 👍

[@francoisboisvert1591]

Nice gift from you to you!! Although it's a tease to show it to us before you leave for a while. Another great video and now it's time for you to enjoy family life a bit. We'll miss you for sure but based on Sean's video last week, we'll be in great hands. Happy holidays to you and can't wait to see you in the new year.

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

Have a great holiday and happy new year to you and your family as well!

[@jerrodcorey25]

PLEASE MAKE MORE CONTENT ! ! YOURS IS " THE BEST " PERIOD. THE END

[@allwheelboost]

Glad to see that I don’t have to rewatch every single video now to figure out the times. That was like a comp sci project. Let us know when that app is done!

[@fergurquiza]

Amazing Quality and Content! Cheers from Mexico.

[@Vargas-js8kr]

😮 no esperaba encontrarte aqui , me encantan tus videos.

[@moritakashi38]

Congrats on the Lotus and happy holidays to you and your fam! Have a good break, we'll be here.

[@lambosam9455]

I love your cinematic film making. It definitely motivates me to stop using my GoPro and break out the GH5S!

[@Challechallechalle]

I would totally drive this car. Bro I just had a great race with a built Fiesta ST in my Focus ST. You would have been proud of me.

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

Did you win? How about a little video 😄

[@Challechallechalle]

@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy yes I won but he was fully built and tuned so I barely fought him off. I need to get one so I can show you.

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

@@Challechallechalle Sometimes it's a driver's race. Need to get a GoPro and just leave it in your glovebox haha.

[@Challechallechalle]

@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy Good idea. I'm gonna do it.

[@LogicalCaptainkirk]

The 4C is a beastie...mmmmmm liked this - good review - honest stuff hard to come by in these days

[@roadbox]

Everyone has a shoulda/woulda/coulda about the 4C instead of enjoying it for what it is. Thank god Italians don’t give a shit about what other people think; their attitude, “Don’t like the car? Don’t buy it.” I love my 4C just as it is, drive the shit out of it, and will probably keep it the rest of my life. But, it’s not for everyone and that’s okay. BTW, visually gorgeous video!!! Nicely mixed audio. Comparison graphics are well done.

[@tydonnelly7444]

Dude Donut media needs to hire you or something! Honestly some of the best automotive content on KZbin

[@SebastianPersini]

Best car show on yt right now

[@Vollgasmus7]

Congratulations on that beautiful christmas present you got yourself right there! Enjoy! :)

[@SportsCars_TE]

Grats on the Exige!

[@susanchan1425]

enjoy your break! thanks for the fastlist 👍

[@MikeyTurbo]

I was there to see the phase 2 alfa 4c beat the Ferrari! Keep up the great videos

[@IsaacWatson]

Would love to see a soup-ed up or tuned-up newer (2016-2020) Mazda MX-5 get this sort of cinematic treatment on your channel. Loving the content! Great stuff.

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

@Isaac Watson Sure thing, I have a friend that just picked up an ND2 RF Miata. We’ll set something up soon.

[@sirenaw7206]

WOOO the fast list is live!!

[@rae-catto]

To achieve the magazine 0-60 you put the car in race mode, then hold a paddle to let you do the full 6500 RPM clutch dump. It's super hard on your transmission but it's there.

[@andygtv]

Love the script and way you project it👍

[@zhoukon]

Looking forward to more content next year

[@ssoffshore5111]

I'd be shocked if a 4c was faster than the F430, which is pretty close to a C6Z in acceleration. And honestly, for a car that's carbon fiber and only has a 1.8L 4 cylinder, I would expect it to be lighter than my SL-C with it's LS3! BTW, congrats on the Lotus!

[@ssoffshore5111]

@@Lameboy7 who would have thought it was possible???

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

Thanks man. It's all those safety regulations. The Euro spec Alfa is like 2100# if I'm not mistaken.

[@100thomasmagnum]

Cool u bought that Lotus. U got some nice toys!

[@godbernaz]

This video is absoluty amazing

[@Drifty325i]

Great vid loved it! and awesome choice on the Lotus, proper drivers cars

[@sxsmarine4075]

Man you could make a show about the Banana population in southern Africa and as long as you were narrating it I would watch it. Lol

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

😄😄😄

[@yennyzheng2629]

Amazing cinematography👍👍

[@alitatunertc1775]

Nice Toy!! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you!!

[@noblevengeance312]

Sorry my TTRS had a flat tire but I’m here! +70 hp is a lot for such a light car! More boost likely. That’s nice Honestly I’d never get an auto trans in a car this small. It’s just not practical. I’m even debating on getting the 8J TTRS for that manual transmission I’d love to see a comparison to before and after with the tests The lotus sounds way better btw. I wasn’t impressed with this sound at all Yes that extra boost is getting it to speed MUCH faster. That’s amazing actually Yeah you wouldn’t need anything over 400hp for that car YES THE LOTUS Alright man, gonna miss you in the vids but Sean does a good job too. I’ll check out that spreadsheet man. Nice vid again

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

All good my friend. Better late than never. You know, I still have yet to test a stock TTRS or RS3. I think I have to make that a priority since I hear they might be going away soon. Turbo cars have so much potential. But you're right, I've been driving the Lotus for a few days now after I gave the 4C back and there's no comparison. The Lotus sounds like a race car while the 4C kinda sounds like a glorified vacuum cleaner (a little mean but it's the truth). I think 350HP is the sweet spot for the 4C for me. Any more wouldn't be usable on the track IMO and that's where I care. I'll catch you in the vids next year bro.

[@noblevengeance312]

Track Day they are discontinuing the in-line 5 in 2022 so yeah, your chances are running out slowly for sure. The lotus definitely sounds like more of a race car, and now I want one thanks to you

[@StelvioQuad]

Amazing video production!

[@hrhgalaxy]

Color me krypton green with envy....Congrats on your Christmas present.

[@N0TThatCrazy]

The quarter mile et and trap speed may have been improved by shifting before redline. That stock turbo turned up is probably making peak power and out of breath much earlier in the revs therefore each redline shift is putting you outside of the powerband. This was true for when my STI was on the stock turbo and my previous WRX.

[@exotixfan]

Still one of the best modern bargains out there. I'm pretty sure that the stage 2 4C only beat the F430 in 0-60 and maybe 1/4 mile by a hair. I remember it was also on an airstrip and the video was made by EuroCompulsion so it might be one sided. If you ask me, I'd still go F430, you can get them used for like 80K these days.

[@msgeezy]

Oh boy, how I wish that last statement was still true!

[@jacktorres3662]

It felt a lot faster than 15.3 in the video, but thats always how it is. Nice vid

[@jmathiz]

I respect the work you put into your videos you’ve earned my Sub just from that alone

[@Black2005Lotus]

Very nice! I had an Elise before my 4C, but never tuned either. I never had confidence in the 4C near the limit as I did in the Elise. Enjoy that toy!

[@brianpopelka3165]

YOU DIDNT USE LAUNCH CONTROL!! On a car that relies on boost using launch control will spool up the turbo quicker making the 0-60 time faster!

[@fredsalfa]

Exactly

[@ljoanne5487]

Great review. Happy holidays and enjoy your break!

[@lecoureurdesbois86]

Congratulations for your Lotus!

[@Little6]

Exige all the way! Especially in Krypton Green.

[@stephenlane9127]

Really liked this video - great work!

[@undercoverlobster866]

Awesome content as always!

[@jw08901]

It is indeed a fast car with a lot of power concentrated on its small body. Definitely a good buy if you like cute cars.

[@peanusbenis5631]

Yes this is good

[@thelastemperor6040]

Hey bro, you should do a color grading tutorial. Your videos look amazing!

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

Thanks man. I might start something on another channel. This channel will only be for car related stuff.

[@deviklovecraft3835]

Totally called the Lotus a second before you even revealed it 😂

[@wpjohn91]

Voice for Radio, good review

[@IBeTehNinja]

The pure chad energy from this guy is amazing

[@simonchan2457]

Amazing content 👍

[@charlesclement383]

Love the 4C.

[@detailcentral]

Another good video. Thanks

[@karengill8234]

Great video. Many thanks. …….

[@nolanjang3777]

Only you are capable of making Rugters look like a bond movie.

[@pete3198]

Just curious, when doing the performance test was the car in race mode? Only asking because I thought the dials change to a yellow colour scheme when in race mode, which didn't seem to be the case during the launch. Alas I could be wrong!!!

[@TheZimbeatz]

This channel is sooooooooooooo Underrated .. What do you film with ?

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

Thank you! Most of my stuff is shot on Panasonic GH5S. B-roll done on RX0 II and GoPro 7.

[@Mickey_Bauer]

Great video, i love the thumbnail

[@babisotonggg]

owhh yeah, Lotus

[@callmeal-tomburgess-thaiba6469]

“Absofrukinlukly” better LOL

[@bjornmuller7205]

Very well done video but i think you missing the point on this car. All those times how fast the car is now at 0-60, 0-100, quarter mile and whatever are totally not important. This car is a fun tool to race on curvy roads and race tracks. The outstanding performance is the combination of power, weight, brake power, handling etc. Who needs to be fast on a straight line in such a car, if you want to be fast in a drag race, you don't need to buy this car at all. I drive my 4c on a stock engine and upgraded the suspension to kW V2 and changed from the stock sport-exhaust to a much less noisy inoxcar-racing exhaust. I think that's what the car needs as upgrades cus there is no lack of power, if there is a lack then it's the suspension set up and the totally overpumped sport exhaust wich is just noisy and adds nothing to the driving experience or the performance. BUT... that's just my point of view :)

[@JoTokutora]

Review suggestion: gen 5 Viper ACR

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

There are a few in the car club I'm in. Just gotta wait for warmer weather now.

[@healthyhuman2360]

My 4C AND my Abarth phase 2 tunes were both underwhelming. On a mainline dyno my 4C made exactly the same hp as before the flash. I’ve moved on to a tune from HDtuning and picked up nearly 50whp.

[@sbinnala]

because EC is garbage, speaking from experience. and especially now, they just don't answer emails anymore, and it takes weeks and months for revisions. steer clear.

[@CAAARRRLL]

Trying to decide on my next car and it’s between this and the giulia quadrifoglio. The quad has 505 hp but it’s 0-60 compared to the 237hp 4c is only .3 seconds faster which is crazy. The quad is 3.8 second avg 0-60 and the 4c is 4.1 0-60. Guess it comes down to comfort at that point right?

[@valeriobert]

i prefer tuning by scara73

[@sveeny]

If it doesn‘t have manual gearbox then it is not how it should‘ve come. Still, awesome car! ;-)

[@thomasusai6708]

Great car great video

[@Eidrian111]

Subscribed

[@larsinteriors9348]

You have to put it in race mode and launch it proper , some guys get sub 4 second times

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

The fastest times were in race mode, I just showed Dynamic mode because the sun kind of overexposed the camera when I did the race mode test. I don't launch cars on this channel because (1) they aren't press cars they are personal cars of people and I don't want to abuse them and (2) I focus on what I call "real life" standing times which replicates what would happen if you decided to just give it a go at a stop light because not every car has an easy launch mode. I'm sure that the P2 tune is capable of a sub 4 second time.

[@larsinteriors9348]

@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy keep up the good work bro , your welcome to drive my 4c or quadrifoglio anytime

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

@@larsinteriors9348 Where are you based? I've been trying to find a Quadrifoglio forever.

[@larsinteriors9348]

@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy im in long island new york 11542 i also have carbon ceramic package

[@MB-zt9eo]

Track Day sorry I post a comment before and now it is clear to me. But you can do half launch, using in race put the brake and full acceleration without shifting the left paddle.

[@bry0ung]

"Who cares, this car is only available in an auto transmission. Thus it is part of the problem, not the solution for those like myself who see a decline in driver focused vehicles." - says me.

[@tsvetelin6556]

Great video! A little too techy for me and you speak too fast I had to pause a lot but overall great content! Thanks!

[@christopherrizzo2891]

Did the tct cope with that increase in torque? It's supposed to hold to 350nm.

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

I can't attest to the long term durability but during our testing it held up fine in all the situations.

[@JimmyPtheman]

Have you driven a 4C with blocks, rear uniballs, coilovers, proper alignment? that's an even better track toy :)

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

I haven’t had the luxury thus far, but I’ve heard that the proper suspension setup makes it a beast.

[@ssgtrom9739]

Funnest car I’ve ever driven…

[@Jaysun1]

4.34 0-60 with an phase 2 tune? You don't know how to drive that car my man. Also a phase 2 ECU doesn't get the 4C to 320 hp Those aren't real numbers.

[@alfatesla5911]

Why no launch, why no race mode? Mine is around running 325BHP and would absolutely walk away from that???

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

Because it's not my car, nor is it a press car and I'm not in the business of abusing other people's toys. Also, the numbers are based on Race Mode, the shot only showed dynamic mode because the exposure was compromised when using race mode.

[@jaymyers6452]

So what do you think is better? The 4c or the lotus?

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

It's a tough fight but I'd give the edge to the lotus simply because of sound and the manual transmission.

[@jaymyers6452]

@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy Fair opinion but i cant agree being an alfa nut gives me a biased view

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

Don't get me wrong, the 4C is amazing and I am considering a Stelvio QV for my wife but the Lotus just gave me that extra special feeling, maybe it's the color too.

[@markusholzer3569]

@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy dont get me wrong but youve git the shitty exhaust on the 4c, there are 2 better ones from Alfa itself

[@______6879]

Things got very hectic with the Virus....

[@DecadeCivic]

How did you capture the footage like that at the 3:00 mark?

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

@DecadeCivic So that’s one of my favorite angles for doing acceleration runs. It’s basically a camera mounted on a heavy duty suction cup that extends itself out to right about where your face would be so it gets a good POV perspective. I normally use a Sony RX0 II (or in this case, a GH5S with a wide lens) to capture a more “cinematic” feel versus a GoPro.

[@DecadeCivic]

@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy sweet thanks for replying and the explanation. I was thinking if doing your shot be possible with a chest mounted 4k Gopro, but using after effect's track motion/stabilization, locking the cluster or steering wheel as reference point. After, maybe can also apply a distortion effect fix, and apply a crop for a more normal viewing angle

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

@DecadeCivic I try to avoid using GoPro’s due to the distortion, but when I do, I always apply a distortion removal effect to make it seem more linear. The problem with chest mount is that you almost always are too low for the cluster and you really just get a face full of steering wheel. A head mounted one would work for better framing and I find that many POV KZbinrs do it this way.

[@MB-zt9eo]

May ask you something?? I own a coupe’ 2016 and soon it will be 320 hp. Why You didn’t put in race?? Also without launch control Alfa will be half second faster: 3.8 second for sure. Also Your comment about gearbox. You can add race ecu for gear and a race gear clutch. In auto no one is manage this car and just in case I agree “in auto the gear doesn’t work” but in dynamic and in race work pretty well.

[@ChrisHondaProductions]

No manual?

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

Unfortunately, they don't come in manual.

[@ChrisHondaProductions]

Save the 3rd pedal !!!

[@ChrisHondaProductions]

Wow !!!

[@JoTokutora]

I wonder the elevation you are.. The stock 4c is a 12.8 car. With tunes they go from 12.2-12.0. Very interesting times. Then again the Mclaren 720 on your graph shows 0-60 3.6. Definitely off. Or maybe your method of obtaining times is off?

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

All times are corrected to sea level DA and slope verified to within 0.5% of a grade. The reason why the times are slower than you're used to seeing is because they are "real life" times, which means no launch control and done on in street conditions.

[@JoTokutora]

@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy 3.6 on a MC 720 with no launch control still slow. Well, anyway, you can not go wrong with the Exige. Great car, congrats

[@bearlyphased]

My alfa feels a shit load quicker than 4 seconds at 0-60. I need to time it soon

[@KevinHale-y2t]

320 HP? No way. Not without the hybrid turbo. The phase 2 gets you 290

[@mcasterinoprojecterino6435]

I believe the car's transmission can only handle up to 350Nm of torque, so by remapping the car, you risk damaging the transmission.

[@kevinkev1530]

Cool

[@fredsalfa]

Dont know where you got 0-60 time of 5.11 it should be 4.5 secs standard time.

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

I got them from real world street conditions, DA corrected to sea level, and no use of launch control. A lot of these manufacturer claims or “standard” times are hero runs done on a prepped drag strip by a professional or paid journalists. Not doubting 4.5 sec is possible, just saying that unless conditions are optimal, a 5 second time is more realistic.

[@fredsalfa]

@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy Why didnt you use launch control ?

[@fredsalfa]

Also the 4C is quicker than the standard 718 and comparable only to the top of the range GTS both doing 4.5 secs 0-60

[@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy]

A few reasons. Firstly, it’s not my car or press car. It’s someone else’s personal car, and I’m not a fan of abusing other people’s toys. Secondly, this channel is more about 40-100 and 60-130 as those are real world representations of a car’s raw power versus 0-60 (or even ¼ mile) which relies on variables such as launch, weather, driver, and electronics. Thirdly, I only do 0-60 to appease “magazine” racers, but for my own enjoyment I want to see what happens in a real street condition because when someone rolls up to you at a stop light revving, how effectively can you engage your launch control before that light turns green? If this was all a little confusing, then allow me to summarize: 0-60 is a poor judge of a car’s real performance. Rolling metrics and half mile times are better off at telling you how quick a car is. A 6000 pound G-Wagon can do 0-60 in 4 seconds, does that mean it’s dramatically faster than the 4C and Porsche 718 GTS?

[@fredsalfa]

@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy Ive never seen any person compeltely disregard the importance of the 0-60 time before. The launch control should also have been used. The reasons you gave dont excuse why it wasnt used. If you used those reasons the test should not have been conducted as you were not adequetly able to compare the car to other cars.

[@sandmangti7040]

But to get service on this thing if needed. Dealers far and rare.

[@nicoloarena3593]

P.s. the 4c has lunch control

[@lucianoaliquo6629]

There is a reason all Alfa's are detuned before it goes to market otherwise the tax is to much my Gt 1.9 tuned runs 425nm a Lexus v8 stock is 405 so euro tax meens u pay the same

[@dogmatika7]

This is a drivers car - very comparable to the Honda S2k. Its not about mere numbers....

[@ayowser01]

Sigma male asian. I can spot my own kind :D

[@shetaiia2925]

Real life 0-60 by not using launch control? As if you can go 120+mph in ‘real life’ situation With this amount of power with launch control you can easily go mid 3s.

[@chrism869]

Change out the turbos youre doing over 350 hp

[@TChan-z8j]

The 4C is not a straight line car. If you want just acceleration and bang for your buck, get a C5 or C6

[@torekongsparten]

Don´t make Young people´s( like yourself), break down to many of these masterpice of ART CAR`S. People should understand that this CAR are made for ( European tiny backroads ), Not for Staight lines only( which are lot´s of american´s dream ), OK 🤣 ? ( If so, BUY A CORVETTE , or something instead ) !!!!!!! TK🇳🇴

[@bromodz2309]

Even if that could beat an 430 I’d still rather the f430 🌚

[@jennamcintyre9397]

Totally agree, "massive pile of crap" 💩