Is the 2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Spider the MOST underrated exotic sports car ever built?

[@stevekang1729]

Current 4C Spider Owner here... This car has a lot of cosmetic mods. Carbon fiber front splitter, side skirts and quadrifoglio badges are all aftermarket mods. The Alpine radio unit w/screen inside and sill plate at the door are also aftermarket. The exhaust is also not factory. It's an aftermarket center exit exhaust from Centerline International.

[@halflifemasta]

seems like it was owned by a 19 year old who spent his entire paycheck on the payment and found out it wasn't enough when something needed fixing and pitched it to the dealer

[@evorinc]

Owned my 2016 4C for 4 years now and it’s the most visceral driving experience offered at this price range. It’s also surprisingly reliable and easy to maintain. You need to drive one to understand!

[@4drturbo85]

Visceral with only 2 pedals. Nope.

[@KevinHale-y2t]

@@4drturbo85 this is not a car. Do you wanna have a pedal in. trust me this car would be no fun at all if it was manual. the carpet would even have room would be the most uncomfortable ride you’ve ever had in your life

[@wall1]

Sorry lotus Elise or exige most visceral

[@ThunderStruckMTB]

I would take this over most sports cars released today. Incredible.

[@Bash_coope]

They got reliability issues

[@curvetrcalinga]

Idiot is in the house

[@MrHighlyEvolved]

@@Bash_coope They absolutely do not. The 4C is very reliable. Go educate yourself on the forums.

[@gramb5611]

So happy you reviewed this Joe. Always been wondering about this. You just don't see these around. Thanks Joe and Steven

[@wearethehaunted3831]

I’m 4ft 3 inches at 45 years old. This car fits me well.

[@johnnyparker2128]

Hmm, are you sure?😮

[@TomSmithII-g3l]

​@@johnnyparker2128 They are actually 48.

[@anth5189]

I have to say that this is probably the best sounding 4 cylinder I have ever heard.

[@copeautomotive]

Joe, I'll always appreciate you giving Alfa Romeo the attention and love it deserves!

[@kenneth4882]

The way this car’s air vents goes directly to the top of the big screen inside, feels like an afterthought

[@LuisSoto-ho5fw]

I am almost certain that big screen is aftermarket.

[@pi.actual]

@@LuisSoto-ho5fw It is, they don't have screens at all.

[@mickeybrumfield764]

It's a beautiful work of art.

[@GillisLang-p5p]

that goes faster than itself, when on a trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWrOYn6XpLN3ftksi=VThirBD6LEAuMYB8

[@stefantakacs]

Damn it Joe, this car is beautiful. But you need better twisty roads. Needs some serious mountain twisties

[@OnyxVenator]

Always nice to see another mid engine sports car! Looks a lot nicer than my MR2 Spyder too 😅Keep up the good work Joe!

[@Big.W.]

I wish they would just take a lotus with the Toyota 3.5 v6 supercharged engine and put Toyota mr2 badges on it, change some of the materials to cheaper ones and sell that

[@armindoribeiro6286]

It's all about the way it makes you smile. Nothing else matters. Way to go Joe 👍

[@particleinthewave8378]

Every Miata ever made puts the same smile on your face, is incredibly reliable and costs a fraction to own. Sure I’d rent a 4c for a weekend but I’d never waste my money on this Italian mechanics special

[@nicoleferrell1579]

🎉🎉Joe I love your car reviews it feels like you right there with you

[@portuguese_ham]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think they ever made a production Alfa Romeo 4C “Quadrifoglio”… it looks like the owner of that particular 4C just slapped a “Quadrifoglio” badge on.

[@armindoribeiro6286]

@@portuguese_ham you're right. It's just a badge. And the infotainment it has is aftermarket, I'm sure of it. Even the buttons below are almost inaccessible. Watch the images carefully and you'll see what I mean...

[@AugustusMcMillan]

@@portuguese_ham could you imagine if this did have a Quad engine though?

[@Victic005]

Hahaha 😂

[@KevinHale-y2t]

Almost every owner has one cause there was a Qaud made with same exact engine. Just esthetic mods. 4C drivers have every right to throw that badge on. And most doo. No one in the community says anything. Its a race car. Thats what the QUad is for.

[@portuguese_ham]

@@KevinHale-y2t so by that logic, would you also put a “M” or “AMG” badge on a non “M” or “AMG” car or SUV? There’re so, so many BMW and Mercedes-Benz owners that do this as well, (and with all due respect) these folks are mocked by the car community… which ARE the enthusiasts, and by default the ONLY ones that actually notice. The people that know will make fun of these “owners” as you call them… the people that don’t know won’t even notice or care; so why even bother? This is not only my opinion, but the vast opinion of the car community. Please keep in mind, I’m not trying to offend you, just sharing my thoughts on this because it makes no sense to me… regardless of the justifications folks come up with.

[@U_Wanna_Clap]

Alfa Romeo fr be making the sexiest cars. Like everything about it is sexy. Even the name Alfa Romeo is truly music to my ears

[@deesplash7087]

Fr 💯

[@omarcortes5754]

Looks so fun to drive.

[@johnroma9412]

My father had a 1975 Alpha spider convertible second hand in the eighties. Best car l ever drove. Hugged the road ,fast acceleration ,stick shift in second gear to 50 mph ,smooth high speed highway ride. I think Alpha blows away Triumph and Fiat for seventies models. Been a good track car for decades. Definitely underrated maker.🏎🏎🏎🏎🏎🏎🏎🏎🏎🏎

[@tyhyhh]

4Cs have been popular lately it seems

[@LuisSoto-ho5fw]

About the 4-leaf clover badge: Respectfully, you've got the story wrong (fantastic video - as usual - otherwise :)). In 1923, the Alfa Romeo official drivers were Alberto Ascari, Giulio Masetti, Enzo Ferrari (yes, THAT Enzo Ferrari) and a guy by the name of Ugo Sivocci. Sivocci was a supremely talented driver that would often dominate races but then something would happen to the car - he never won, and the general consensus was that lady luck just wasn't on his side. This changed for the 1923 Targa Florio race, for which Sivocci painted a four-leaf clover - symbol of good luck - within a white diamond shape, its four corners commemorating each of the four drivers. It so happened that Sivocci finally won this race. Tragically, Sivocci was killed at Monza later that year, while testing a car that did NOT have the diamond badge - Thereafter racing Alfas were decorated with the now familiar triangle shape - no longer a diamond, as one corner was removed to honor the fallen driver. IIRC, while racing Alfas always sported this, one would occasionally see a "regular" Alfa Romeo vehicle with it - I'm not 100% certain, or course, but I don't particularly recall it being reserved only for the high-performance models, and I believe it wasn't until relatively recently that this changed. Hence, even if there was no such thing as a "QV 4C," some 4C owers would honor the brand's history that way.

[@KevinHale-y2t]

There was a Quad 4c and it has the same motor and track package. So if you got mods during purchase slap that badge on no guilt. Everyone in the community has zero issues with it. .

[@LuisSoto-ho5fw]

@@KevinHale-y2t One of my best friends is from Milan, and "non-special" Alfas with a QV sticker on a fender are apparently no big deal. Just shows appreciation for "the local team" :)

[@grgnfl05]

On Throttle Joe!! Love the review, love the car. Awesome!

[@aldairperez5464]

Even though I'm not that into Alfa, they do have their unique style, especially the front end that makes them recognizable. With that said, my favorite model is the 4C, followed by the Guilia.

[@rhsab1]

Red all the way Joe! Love the style, beautiful.

[@jamesterakazis6624]

Raiti dawg, Love you bro but lots of mis info in here.... Regarding Alfa's logo.... The red cross From the emblem of Milan, and a reference to the red cross worn by medieval Milanese soldiers during the Crusades. The Visconti serpent From the coat of arms of the Visconti family, who ruled Milan in the 14th century. The serpent is eating a man, which is known as a Biscione and was a symbol of the Visconti family. The crown on the serpent may represent the Viscontis gaining a dukedom in the 15th century Regarding the Quad logo The four-leaf clover, or Quadrifoglio Verde, became Alfa Romeo's racing logo after Italian driver Ugo Sivocci painted one on his car before the 1923 Targa Florio race: The clover Sivocci was known for his technical skill but was often unlucky in races, earning him the nickname "I'eterno secondo" or "the eternal second". To bring himself good luck, he painted a green four-leaf clover inside a white square on the side of his car. The win Sivocci's luck paid off, and he won the race. The tragedy Sivocci died in a crash during practice for the Italian Grand Prix at Monza later that year. His car was rushed to the track and didn't have the clover painted on it. The symbol The Alfa Romeo factory began decorating all of its racing cars with the cloverleaf starting in 1924. To honor Sivocci, the white square was replaced with a triangle to represent his absence Regarding the "C" in 4 C The "C" in the name of the Alfa Romeo 4C stands for cilindro, which is Italian for "cylinder". The name of the car is a combination of the number of pistons and the letter C, which is in line with Alfa Romeo's past naming conventions. The 4C also refers to the car's straight-four engine. Also the "A" in DNA is "Advanced Efficiency"...not AUTOMATIC🤣 In addition, this car has TONS of aftermarket carbon do-hickey's added on and the Alpine stereo is completely aftermarket as well as the exhaust. Finally, you mentioned "reliability"...I hate to destroy the cliché, but Alfas are very dependable....Cost of maintenance on this car is the concern. Those are two radically different issues. This car is essentially a $50,000 street legal track car super car ! Carbon fiber tub with two aluminum sub frames bolted on !! There really is NO CHASSIS...It's an affordable McLaren is the only way to look at it. Peace out dawg and FORZA ALFA BABY !!

[@derekgaliee4351]

Hi 👋 Joe 😊Thanks for featuring this Sports car very underrated

[@MB-zt9eo]

4C is Mega🍀👍💪 Full of Love and Passion

[@javy.airlines]

Love That Alfa Romeo 4C Spider😍❤️🏁🚗🕷️!!!

[@jeremyjoya958]

the A in DNA is All Weather (rain/wet mode)

[@TonyM8512]

In my Giulia I think it is for "Advance Efficiency"

[@Vauba812]

I love the look of the 4c and that’s why I bought a Mito as my first car cuz it kinda look alike.

[@MR3DDev]

Holy crap this sounds better than some V8s

[@dominickirkwood]

Joe and Lori and Steve keep up the good work real true and I love the video 👍

[@tedwhite5197]

A totally underappciated car. Love it.

[@thetrafa1313]

I need to find roads like that with no traffic 😢.

[@michaelzero5144]

Come to south East Ohio... amazing roads both with straights and twist. So many country roads its amazing. Drive as fast as you want...

[@jonysanup]

I have only ever seen one, It looked so much better 'in the flesh' , classy as.....!

[@lambrosstamos4494]

She's gorgeous.

[@projector7141]

Great camera work

[@VitaliyKofman]

I think that's an aftermarket head unit :)

[@olivierdevries01]

Joe - Beautiful car. Wish I had the opportunity to drive one. But is it just me or could that car use more rubber??

[@malikmcintosh7797]

11:47 Mean Sounding Exhaust

[@TheMurrblake]

That iPad afterthought on the dash is an abomination

[@brianb7844]

That is aftermarket. Original car did not have that. Agree with you though. Keep it original.

[@Jokwoo]

Just to be clear, most of that exterior carbon fiber is like the Alpine head unit, that is, aftermarket. I suspect the exhaust is as well (Centerline, maybe?) and not from factory.

[@phillyspitta8147]

Def a aftermarket radio they had these cheap ass average head units wit no screen on the 4c from factory . And the badges are added also I think 💭.

[@stevenbaggett6549]

Joe you're the best

[@JaroPivarci]

One of kind fun car 👌

[@RickStarzz]

Joe, been watching you for years and have had over 30 cars... this is the one that I feel "got away " so.. haven't seen video but I'm certain this or cayman/boxster will be next (but my 2023 m2 manual is a beast albeit a bit chunky lol)

[@kobe_dough3702]

Such an underrated Italian machine.

[@dandoe1620]

Joe I've been to Italy and France. So I'm not just anybody... jk lol... The roads are much smaller there and I always tell people if I lived there this is the car I would drive. Plenty of power for those smaller windier roads. And small enough to be able to park which is the biggest thing to consider when living there. We didn't appreciate this car when we had the chance 😢. I think the biggest problem with our market is smaller cars are typically cheaper and reserved for a younger demographic. This car was small and expensive for its size. We just didn't know the value it truly presented.

[@DominionAnako-bb7ry]

Love your video

[@MtlGuy2018]

The 4 leaf clover badge doesn't exist on 4C. Probably got that from Amazon or something. The 4 leaf clover is for QVs. But they do look cool on 4C tho. The engine sound is epic!

[@KevinHale-y2t]

A 4C Quadri folio was in fact made it just never hit production. It was the same exact motor in it had the badge. The only difference was it had a really nice effects kit. You can see it on KZbin.

[@MtlGuy2018]

@@KevinHale-y2t Exactly, just a prototype, but a very cool one. The quad badge is on Amazon for 114$ CAD.

[@kobeldc3760]

I’ve definitely heard more about the interior for this make

[@JonathanChow180]

Whoa! I like the look!

[@hpickettz34]

When will you review a lotus emira?

[@KevinHale-y2t]

Need a wing and spacers , The hybrid turbo kits had 100 hp and you have a Jewel.

[@pi.actual]

Almost bought one of these in 2017 but decided to get a Ferrari 308 instead. I love the 308 but if my left knee ever goes out I'm swapping it for a 4C.

[@jeremygallardo8096]

This car looks awesome my only gripe is the Gear Shift or rather lack there of. Those 4 buttons just looks disgusting, and I know I can mod it and add one, personally this is something so standard especially on a performance car that I just wouldn't even bother. The Infotainment is just nonexistent as well, kind of like the R8 both beautiful but just lacks so many features

[@KevinHale-y2t]

all the haters either never drove one or don’t have one. Vehicle holes its value in fact it’s going up in price. it’s a classic. It’s an awesome car a couple modifications you smoking everybody out there to its weight. It gets more head turns than Lamborghinis. Especially the red coupe. absolute track weapon with a few mods and absolute funniest times in the canyons you’ll probably ever have.

[@alexismerced2981]

2015 and looks better that's other modern cars

[@fibonaccisequence2891]

This car reminds me on Ferrari Dino.

[@FRL2000]

I want one, but judging by used prices they're not at all underrated.

[@Jowurel]

A dealer near to me had one of these lightly used (same color too) for $39k and I was seriously contemplating it; my heart said yes but my brain said no. Brain won in the end. Doubt I’ll ever see it at that price again.

[@muffinman4353]

You did yourself a favor, the car is a piece of junk..

[@tonyn3227]

It would drain your bank account with constant issues, why do you think it was discontinued so soon.

[@MrHighlyEvolved]

@@tonyn3227 It was discontinued because the market for these cars is TINY and they have a hand laid carbon fiber tub, not because they're unreliable. The 4C is extremely simple and barely has anything to go wrong with it. Go visit the forums and you'll see what actual owner experiences are like.

[@KevinHale-y2t]

@@muffinman4353You never had one or drove one. LOL. be quite. Porches reputation is twice as bad as alfa in the 2000’s

[@McLeanGary]

Joe, I'm telling you I'm getting one of these cars! Love them so much! I have to drive past one every day going to work and it's tormenting me. Thank you so much for circling back around to this beauty, awesome episode!!!

[@hckymnky]

You should find a track to rip these cars around!

[@armindoribeiro6286]

4C is meant to be 4 cylinders. Like the 8C Is 8 cylinders and old 6C meant it had 6 cylinders. And the 6C was a car before carbon fibre was even a thing in cars.

[@armindoribeiro6286]

That's not a triangle... That is meant to be the shape of a heart. Like the engine is the heart of the car, normally at the front.

[@tonyn3227]

Nice car test drove it back in 2016 , liked it but was way overpriced,

[@genewong8204]

I’ve had my 4C since 2015. It’s the most engaging car I’ve ever driven but it’s flawed. The original sub 2000 pound weight was missed by several hundred pounds in Europe and a porker 500 lbs in North America. While the car is still quick, it’s nowhere near what it could have been. The extra weight also adversely affected steering causing it to tramline due to its near zero castor geometry.

[@PauldeVries]

Besides the fact lot of things you talk about are aftermarket modifications. That Alpine radio, surely Alfa Romeo won't design a car this beautiful to have a screen blocking the vents. Still I liked how enthusiastic you can tell about this cars. You wanted to talk about the 4C and not the spider version. but the biggest crime here is: It seems like a great weather. so why don't take the top off?

[@jimbean5672]

Tell that guy to fix his brake light Joe 😅

[@RaitisRides]

I know right Jim!

[@jimbean5672]

@@RaitisRides I definitely didn't think anybody seen that

[@TomSmithII-g3l]

This car looks hilarious. Like a VW Beetle

[@momoknows]

That arm rest looked uncomfortable other than that Nice car

[@AugustusMcMillan]

this is a great enthusiast sports car. the Caymen may be better. but this is rarer and cheaper.

[@andygtv]

Where are sill plates from?

[@colincharles9034]

4 seconds to 60 is quicker then a lot of vehicles that have over 400hp and V8's LC 500 being one.

[@RaitisRides]

It is because it is so light!

[@colincharles9034]

@@RaitisRides 100%

[@MB-zt9eo]

Ahh Price in Europe is touching 100 k euro. Average 80 k euro! And is growing up. So in Us buy It and Keep It

[@juanj.martinez8226]

C stands for cylinders not carbon fiber.

[@thiongoa]

Mazda miata on steroids

[@muffinman4353]

What a piece of junk....

[@joshshanks4550]

Alpine head unit not factory or was it a option

[@scorpionking8661]

Forza Italia🇮🇹🇮🇹👍👍

[@xorbitman]

It's almost the same size as a Smart Car. LOL!

[@darthstarone3532]

💪😎🎸 KILLA 🎸🦇

[@TS-nl9vp]

Love the 4c. Wanted to get it but it would have to be a 2nd car and cannot be an everyday car.

[@RaitisRides]

You are so very right about that!

[@valeriobertucci6159]

owner me too....tuned to 350hp and 30kg less

[@ag4allgood]

Its really more of a track car than something you want to daily drive. You could daily drive it but the creature comforts are not in these cars. The Mazda MX-5 has better technology & costs much less. Less to insure & maintain too. Don't like turbo charged engines because they run hotter & need more care for them. The lack of a manual transmission also takes away from the driving experience. What you get with the Alpha is that nobody else in your neighborhood will have one.

[@travisfandrich]

I wanted 1 of these things the minute I first laid eyes on it but the reality is…it’s an Alfa…I want my $ to last 😂

[@sevenflashowls]

Same. The nearest dealer was about 75 miles away. They seem like they have been more reliable than expected, but there’s no way anyone but an Alfa dealer should work on this.

[@MrHighlyEvolved]

@@sevenflashowls They're actually very reliable. They're simple cars in the same way that the Elise was.

[@4drturbo85]

@@MrHighlyEvolved You got to do the timing belt/water pump every 5 years and the bolts for the carbon fiber tub need to be retorqued every 12k miles.

[@hansdekok8359]

$ to last? i bought one new 9 years ago.. last month a garage offered me the price when new....how do you mean depreciation?

[@travisfandrich]

@@hansdekok8359 upkeep/maintenance break downs

[@tomdrummy4984]

Looks like a hot wheels car I had years ago 😃………I’ll take the Porsche Joe ! 😎

[@DriveFastDriveHard]

Why are so many sports cars so poorly built with reliability issues? It really limits what one with common sense should buy

[@keltecdan]

MR2 spyder or Miata would be the way to go for reliability. Heck even Lotus Elise, Exige, Evora and Emira would be good.

[@mcnuggetapple]

Who said this was poorly built with bad reliability

[@nah3193]

I'm not seeing the correlation here. Basically every brand has certain reliability issues on certain models. The cars that are well made tend to have expensive parts and labor so even if they are mostly reliable cost of ownership is still high.

[@F1WEC]

​@@mcnuggetappleIgnore them its just brand loyalty ppl that just need to bash other brands thats all...no biggie.

[@Zwampert]

Even if the 4c has reliability issues, you don’t buy this sort of car with “common sense”. A Porsche would be more sensible at this price range, but the 4c is a totally unique and thrilling driving experience that tugs at the heartstrings rather than appealing with performance numbers.

[@javierrosario6372]

How’s maintenance price ?

[@KevinHale-y2t]

Super low

[@ronaldtran6705]

Am I the only one that is triggered when he says “most engaging” “pure driving” know that it’s not a manual?

[@23Piccolina]

Joe I am an Alfa fan big time. But they failed miserably with this model. It should have been larger, with the 2.0 liter 280bhp engine and luxury features similar to a Porsche Boxster. I am 6.4 and do not fit in this car. Also, its too bare bones for the ridiculous price tag they charged for this. Its very good looking, but failed in the areas I have stated here. It never caught on due to its lack of horses, small size and lack of luxury.

[@hansdekok8359]

did you ever drive one? guess you need to save for a mc20

[@23Piccolina]

@@hansdekok8359 I am 6.4 and when I sat in this tiny car, I couldn't fit. I bought a Giulia instead. But I would have bought a Giulia coupe or convertible if they made one. The MC20 is way over priced, I'd buy Ferrari over a Maserati.

[@GuitarPlayer3-m5k]

Bad idea calling out Butter!! Good luck and do your homework!!

[@stephanevachon5636]

Not having a manual gearbox option on the 4c is why I went Porsche instead.

[@richardwalther6229]

That, and you wanted it to still be drivable 10 years later😊

[@ReyesJim]

Italian is Always Better!!!,, Im getting this car!!

[@michaelzero5144]

How's the reliability?

[@tonyn3227]

Don't mention that word, with alfa, reliability, they don't recognize that word

[@MrHighlyEvolved]

They're very reliable. It's a very simple car in the same way an Elise is, but it's put together much better.

[@tigerhoods7927]

I would’ve thought it was a 2020 or newer model yeast

[@bearclaw5115]

Nahh, look at those headlamps. They're screaming 2010.

[@atomicorang]

Joe.. I'm sorry but I'm praying for you and your family safety and we'll being sir❤

[@rickjames6867]

I love these cars. Mostly I appreciate those who buy them and drive them for me to watch. I might have the money for an Italian sweetheart like this. But I still don't want to date one. High maintenance relationships aren't for me.

[@timwong580]

Manual steering kills it for me.

[@ABasedSammich]

4C is really the only awesome modern Alfa 😅

[@Alex-cc3ol]

I'm 6'4. Will I fit in it?

[@RaitisRides]

It is going to be tight!

[@ProjectDefi]

i used to drive only manuals. idk why everyone fusses about oh i wish it was a manual. its like its the cool thing to say. im sorry but unless you live somewhere with no traffic or are on a track all the time. then its not fun. even on the track auto is faster and lighter then a manual. so sick of hearing oh its not a manual

[@Victic005]

I hardly call it a spyder. It's more a targa top. Better to get an MX-5. Cheaper and much more reliable.

[@RaitisRides]

Yeah I was surprised that they went that route with the name but I am sure if they used Targa Porsche would have had an issue with it!

[@toniasmith7241]

Clean for a 2015?!??

[@Big.W.]

I thought it was a brand new car at first