Great move by Alpine. Closing down the engine program means they have little to hide anymore and using what they have for some good press is a smart move!
@GreenPlasticWaterCanАй бұрын
Won't mean they won't be designing their own gearbox though. McLaren uses Mercedes engine but designes their own box.
@irgendeinerandompersonАй бұрын
@@GreenPlasticWaterCanfor 2026 at least they will use Mercedes gearboxes. After that is unknown
@curoadorАй бұрын
Designing a gearbox is half the fun of building an F1 car ... they will still do their own gearboxes im sure !
@silverwolf9352Ай бұрын
@@curoadorthey wont
@silverwolf9352Ай бұрын
10:20 ahh yes the infamous oil pump of 2022, caused like 4 dnf’s
@Michael-pi8psАй бұрын
Alpine stopped making their own engines/transmission and immediately decided to spill the tea on how it all works
@wyskass861Ай бұрын
It's not a mystery how a transmission works. The secrets are in the small details to make a small incremental gains in efficiency and weight for each new year. No race team is gaining any insight by watching this video. It's for the public to do a little Alpine marketing.
@josue_kayАй бұрын
We can all make our own F1 gearbox now that we know the secret. 👍
@cbmbdbАй бұрын
@@josue_kayTO THE WORKSHOP!
@DrDeuteronАй бұрын
*beans. Beans are material facts, tea is (people) gossip.
@mikosoft27 күн бұрын
it's not a current gearbox though
@ALewTechАй бұрын
Awesome that Alpine provided this access. Hoping other F1 teams follow suit, it's great to learn all about the tech behind these amazing cars.
@NKY151Ай бұрын
Only if they have no more edge. This move is just as strategic as anything rthey do on track, just to do with publicity and goodwill.
@DrDeuteronАй бұрын
...or this is a design that flopped terribly. A disinformation gearbox.
@AIAdventures152429 күн бұрын
Or they showed the gearbox cause they're going to ditch it?
@quadrantalerror1121Ай бұрын
Lego Technic for Adults pretty much
@LastGoatKnightАй бұрын
It's the other way around, Lego Technic is this but for children (and collectors)
@UKBUILTАй бұрын
Brilliant 😍 I would love make a V10 into a clear cutaway 👍 after my V12 build 😎
@quadrantalerror1121Ай бұрын
@@LastGoatKnight true
@egem4mАй бұрын
@@LastGoatKnightthats what he meant?
@mohitsasidharanАй бұрын
Exactly!!😄
@meanredspiderАй бұрын
Loved the diff explanation - I’m always surprised how often F1 parts are just much lighter, more sophisticated versions of road car parts but that diff is a different league.
@GreenPlasticWaterCanАй бұрын
It's what you get when production cost and durability are less of a concern.
@theairaccumulator7144Ай бұрын
@@GreenPlasticWaterCan nah they're both concerns in the modern era of F1 with the cost cap and replacement limits
@GreenPlasticWaterCanАй бұрын
@@theairaccumulator7144 Not really, in normal cars it's a matter of cents. Every cent saved adds up quickly. Unlike F1 where performance is objective number 1.
@GamezGuru1Ай бұрын
@@GreenPlasticWaterCan F1 diff is not like it is because it doesn't have to be durable, it's a hydraulically actuated ACTIVE differential - entirely unnecessary on a road car, and enormously expensive to manufacture and maintain.
Ай бұрын
@@GamezGuru1 yeah road car (sporty one),, LSD would suffice
@KresnovАй бұрын
I remember quite a few years ago before the final race of the season in Japan, I was in Italy to pick up 4 Ferraris from the factory, my first visit and didn't really know where I was going (before satnav) I turned down this country road to see loads of cars parked all over the place, I stopped my truck to see what was going on and spotted this chap going through the trees to a fenced off area, I worked my way through the trees to be greeted by armco around Fiorano Test Track and Michael Schumacher testing, the violence of the gear changes as he came past us is something that still stays with me today, it's utterly brutal how they bang into gear with astonishing force, and the noise omg it was biblical, a day and a moment I will never forget.
@atn_holdingsАй бұрын
it's crazy to me that F1 seamless gear shifts are still basically just one technological step ahead of regular street motorbike units with the double barrel pre-select. I really thought at this point there would be some new inner mechanism at play but nope. Just really careful engineering and ECU programming. Amazing
@byanymeansnecessary9329Ай бұрын
FIA has mandated it st stay as is, possibly at the teams' request. cvt and fully seamless were both banned
@benjones436526 күн бұрын
@@byanymeansnecessary9329"cvt and fully seamless were both banned", yes and I understand why it could be bad for the sport. However if F1 is supposedly to be the development side that we see in road car some 5 years later, IMO it should have been allowed.
@mechanismguyАй бұрын
Engineer comment- These videos are great, but a bit frustrating when the B-roll doesn't match the actual topic. At 10:45 they show a close up view of a gear pump which has two identical meshing gears and can be referred to as an external gear pump. It is similar to how a roots blower works. In between the gears where they mesh does not allow oil through, so it is forces the oil to be carried by the teeth around the outer wall. The actual pump hanging from the strings is an annular gear pump which uses an internal and external gear (this pump has two sets). Notice that in the F1 pump the "inernal rotor" (regular gear) has six teeth and the external rotor (internal ring gear) has seven teeth. You can also notice at 10:38 that the pivot hole in the body for the shaft is off center. This locates the internal rotor to properly mesh with the external rotor, which leaves a gap on the far side where the pumping is done. Also notice that the internal rotor is keyed to the shaft, so it spins with the shaft, and the teeth drive the external rotor to spin at 6/7ths the speed of the shaft. The external rotor spins in the pocket in the body. The B roll of the "bevel gear" mesh at 12:56 was painful to see. If you have ever used Lego gears, you know what is wrong with that animation... Again, these videos provide incredible inside views of F1 tech that is just amazing, and I'm grateful to have access to it.
@tturi2Ай бұрын
that non bevelled diff is fair enough since it simply shows how the gears apply force to someone with zero mechanical aptitude, yes it's literally grinding gears irl lol
@bigyeet8905Ай бұрын
In his defense that animation is taken from toyota
@amrnasser1324Ай бұрын
That diff animation was painful to watch
@licencetoswillАй бұрын
yeah I saw that gear pump footage and thought somethings not adding up. it would've be nice to have some detail on the two parallel annular pumps as they're quite fascinating. amazing info none the less.
@TorqueFormulaWonАй бұрын
This video was hard to watch in general. Alpine put all the effort in basically. The more I think about it the more it makes me mad that this access was given to Scott as I don't feel he did them justice. It was just a rushed mess in parts and hard to follow. Things should be understandable to layman's but this was just rushed to get under 15 minutes. The amount of cuts and fast "explanations" that were edited in that way regarding important things was just painful. With this access to very recent tech he should be doing it justice. I would rather have a quality video that's longer than a shorter rushed mess like this that didn't even match. Wasted the privilege of seeing this or maybe takes it for granted with being a driver. All the tools were there and transparent as well. Could have been really interesting and educational but the editing was poor. All that easy to see setup wasted.
@AlphaEngineer2022Ай бұрын
I've walked past this gearbox everyday at alpine, it's mesmerising :)
@rickintexas1584Ай бұрын
The amount of engineering behind these machines is staggering. My hats off to the men and women who bring us these amazing machines.
@julesselmes29 күн бұрын
This is the best F1 channel on KZbin. Thank you @Driver61 , F1 brings a lot of joy to me and your content enhances it.
@goat3898Ай бұрын
Still waiting for a driving upside down update.
@einglisАй бұрын
Give it a rest.
@goat3898Ай бұрын
@ nah
@christiancolombo2317Ай бұрын
I think its gone
@justin-rh6pzАй бұрын
He’s to scared and to cheap to do it
@SuperPhexxАй бұрын
I read somewhere they have issues finding a location. They basically need a long tunnel with smooth concrete lining without anything attached to the roof/walls. And they need to build on/off ramps at the openings/inside this tunnel so the tunnel can't really be used for something important as the ramps would put the tunnel out of commission for most likely weeks, at best days. Tunnels filling all those requirements are extremely rare. I'm not even sure something like that exist. Best option might be to look for some feeding tunnel for some hydro power plant that's under heavy maintenance/repair where the tunnel is either made with a TBM throu solid rock or thats lined because it goes through consistently poor rock. But there are not many of those either.
@Tahm_Ай бұрын
That note about singapore being hard on gearbox was interesting, if possible could you guys do a video on an entire F1 Calendar track by track and which components are particularly stressed? That would be very interesting to know
@lourensvandervyver1585Ай бұрын
Very nice Stroll cameo
@briangschaefer7048Ай бұрын
Magnificent video as usual Scott! Big thanks to Alpine for the wonderful insight.
@amrnasser1324Ай бұрын
That differential is a masterpiece. I truly want a deep explanation on how it works. With no simplified animations. The differential animation you had there that had two straight cut gears meshed together perpendicularly was painful to watch. But overall, great video and hope to see more like it
@JSB250016 күн бұрын
The funding is split 50:50 between gearbox development and funding his sleep. That's 6 million a year on high tech beds, and also on sleep apps for him to mess with when the bed isn't working. The fact that he asked how many oil pumps there are in the gearbox and was wowed by the answer of one makes me think the bed isn't working at the moment.
@flightmaster999Ай бұрын
Man, I could spend a weekend there just looking at the differential. Just amazing design and simplicity all at once. And then there's the 1000 HP going through it all, or to be exact, it's the torque that matters here. HP is just the torque multiplied by RPM.
@l4916528 күн бұрын
Divided by 5,252 😉
@flightmaster99928 күн бұрын
@@l49165 Exactly!
@springford9511Ай бұрын
Another great video, thanks. The cut (10m 43s) from the exploded 6 lobe Eaton style (I know it as) pump to the assembled but coverless gear pump did have me doubting my sanity. Luckily a quick rewind confirmed the situation🙂
@flyzeyefabАй бұрын
Absolutely LOVE F1 Tech! Fantastic engineering!!!
@donf2944Ай бұрын
stone cold shade thrown at Stroll on that not using reverse line. Perfect haha
@abcshopper29 күн бұрын
Casual F1 fan. Fan of all racing. Mega fan of all science and engineering. Good on ya KZbin algorithm. 👍
@UKBUILT28 күн бұрын
I love the in depth engineering on F1 tech 😍 I'm building my own V12 supercar 😎
@jukeseyableАй бұрын
that engineering is absolutely beautiful
@FinnD777Ай бұрын
What a week to post this video, considering Alpine just announced they’re using Mercedes gearboxes from 2026!
@nicholaspayne349Ай бұрын
I feel like you could’ve done an entire video on just the diff. That thing is amazing.
@kh40yrАй бұрын
Nascar started spraying gear oil into the Ford 9" diffs , with a pump and squirter tubes built in and on the rear housing.
@millennialpoes5674Ай бұрын
Nascar? Wtf cares. 😅
@donwheeler1683Ай бұрын
Wow! Always loved the transmission rebuilding of my Alfa's and this is a fantastic presentation.....Thanks!!! How all those gears mesh and turn revolutions in to forward movement is incredible.
@evanbo173Ай бұрын
Great video. Would love to see a whole video on the diff!
@COYOTE_N8Ай бұрын
Man I wish we got more then two mins on the differential. That thing deserves it's own video
@bradinch156312 күн бұрын
after working on transa les for 25 years, they really have not changed, but the straight cut ring gear is cool.
@timog4991Ай бұрын
Thanks for this amazing video. I would have loved to see more of the differential. I think that's the most interesting part of the whole gearbox
@MendicantBias125 күн бұрын
Alpine is actually pronounced with the P first, A and L are silent, the E comes next with I and N switched. Also add an S at the end.
@TesterAnimal116 күн бұрын
Pins?
@chevy4x46614 күн бұрын
I have no patience for people that insist their name should be pronounced differently from how it is spelled
@hampocampoАй бұрын
Wow that diff is amazing.
@233kostaАй бұрын
Simulation doesn't mean you do no physical testing. For one thing, you have to validate the method. Even then, you should always test the final product, just in case one of your assumptions was wrong.
@X19-x5f19 күн бұрын
For some reason this popped up in my feed. Glad it did as this is some really fascinating stuff. Thanks!
@gerrydepp816425 күн бұрын
I've done loads of those...in Motorbikes, I'm amazed I recognised everything. Bikes dont normally have a pump tho but they do have Dogs! Its called constant mesh - not like cars at all - here the actual gears are always engaged - its the ring/fork in between them that moves and connects the gear to the shaft via dogs that are a bit like pins that go in holes in the side of the gear where you cant see them. This makes for the fast gear changes until eventually the dogs wear down and it can fall out of gear. Pity he didnt mention the oil - there is enough tech in that too...
@brianb-p6586Ай бұрын
Excellent insight into the transaxle internals. It would have been nice to cover why they use a cross-shaft, driven by a spiral bevel gear and driving the differential by parallel straight-cut spur gears, rather than the hypoid gear set of a typical longitudinal road car transaxle or final drive. The answer is that a hypoid gear set provides the required vertical offset, right-angle turn, and reduction gearing in one stage.... but this arrangement provides the same functions with less drag (and resulting heat production), despite needing two stages to do it.
@idonjohnson699922 күн бұрын
Came for gearbox. Learned about some aircon bed matras.
@deltacx105929 күн бұрын
The thing is it's easy to make a strong transmission if it being strong is top priority ,things immediately get much harder if you want it to be light too. Basically the engineering triangle, your choices are strong, light and cheap, you only get to pick two.
@srinitaaigauraАй бұрын
Some of those components look like they should belong in a watch, they're pure jewellery, can't believe they can handle 1000 HP at full tilt! Engineering masterpiece!
@adamthomas1222Ай бұрын
Where I'd like you to visit next is the tunnel where you were supposed to drive upside down on
@cadrianocrrАй бұрын
Could you make a video specifically about the differential used in Formula 1 cars?
@ZoefontheMoveАй бұрын
This was really interesting because it's a recent component! More of this! ❤
@aw968020 күн бұрын
Other than super alloys, f1 cars don't produce a whole lot of torque. So the transmissions don't need to be as strong as a camaro, for example.
@tilleulenspiegel66029 күн бұрын
[skip ad] ⏭ 7:10
@roysoutdoorlifeАй бұрын
2.45 Mclaren breakdown. The Tooned advert on the rear wing was from the Button/Hamilton days... I think probably 2012. Pretty sure that's a Hamilton helmet. Maybe Singapore when Ham retired with a failed gearbox?
@jesser913428 күн бұрын
Yer gonna need to explain that diff a bit more
@mariusmoreira2588Ай бұрын
Nice video ! But a bit frustrated you didn't really go through what is so specific on F1 gearbox : seemless system. Hope we can learn more later!
@BadWallabyАй бұрын
Engineers are basically super heroes. I genuinely hope these videos encourage more young people to jump into engineering
@MadpegasusmaxАй бұрын
so nice video , it's a clockwork mechanism , really liked to see how they are build inside , and were the straight tooth sound is "produced" . Sad you not show how the 3rd sprocket gear from Reverse works .
@UKBUILT28 күн бұрын
The sound comes from the straight gears themselfs. The Teath have a clearance gap. What your hearing is the movement when one tooth disengages and the next reengages 👍 straight gears have no axial loading allowing for less friction. This is different for helical gears where the there is always a tooth engaged (hense no rattle, no noise) but they do have axial loading and more friction. I hope this helps 🙂 I'm building a V12 supercar 😎
@thehandleiwantedwasntavailableАй бұрын
Would’ve been great to gain some insight on oil flow during high G situations. Especially on things like avoiding oil surge etc.
@PRJX_S3Ай бұрын
Another important thing to look at with the oil flow is the amount of cavitation on the geartooth caused by the gears running through the oil, which can be even more of a disaster than running minimal librication. Cool video tho! Love these ❤
@UKBUILT28 күн бұрын
Yeah that's why they are spraying oil directly onto the gears 👍 straight gears can run on almost no lubrication. As you say, to much oil can damage a gearbox, this is typically on 'wet sump' gearboxes. These f1 gearboxes are essentially a dry sump system, some even have oil tanks built into the casings 😎
@zentrolmАй бұрын
2:48 Leclerc Monaco 2021 qualifying , the driveshaft failure caused the DNS the next day
@wagnerfontoura461416 күн бұрын
There might be an oil cooler, and the breath pot, usually due to oil expansion temperature and flow during the comissioning of the system the pipes diameter may need to be adjusted to bigger or smaller sizes to avoid overflow. 😎
@VijaiShyamАй бұрын
yo this looks FIRE bro LOVE the engineering series on f1!!
@nj033Ай бұрын
Awesome and very informative video! It makes me wonder if 1> Can one of those transmissions be adapted to a vette and 2> Would it last a lot longer since it wouldn't be supporting the suspension and it wouldn't see the same amount of stress? It would be interesting 🤔
@Jimmy_MoonАй бұрын
@2:44 Lewis, Singapore 2012. The straw that broke the goats back.
@brygryАй бұрын
That's not how a vehicle oil pump works; you're describing an impeller. You also change from showing gerotor internals to showing a gear pump (which moves the oil very differently) when describing incorrectly how the oil pump works.
@bdjm859529 күн бұрын
Always interesting to see how F1 cars work and evolve !
@bm7760Ай бұрын
Love all this stuff. Love the detail and precision. It's mind-blowing. Just a shame that this pinnacle of automotive engineering should ever be handed to a brat like Stroll.
@hutch43025 күн бұрын
Thank you for this. Amazing engineering and machining.
@TheSmokeofAnubisАй бұрын
Ahh man, thank you for explaining this! Especially the _dif_ bit.. very nicely done for this absolute layman 👌🏼 👍🏼
@bbkandsons25 күн бұрын
Wow! Another terrific video!
@theelf152Ай бұрын
What a crazy differential, planetary gears and spider gears controlling all that torque. I would love to see a clear view of that in operation.
@bryanspanjer321328 күн бұрын
Modulated limited slip differential is very nice.
@Mr4Strings18 күн бұрын
Would be nice if you'd shown how the gearbox actually functions by illustrating the movements. Perhaps showing how the shifting mechanisms function? Spending half the video on lubrication circlations is a waste of time.
@2103i26 күн бұрын
So I am not the only one watching Garage54 AND Driver61 as well!
@Nitrox4meАй бұрын
Interestingly, they don't care about noise when using straight gears instead of helical gears. We get a whine while in reverse in "our" cars because they are straight tooth. Helical removes the whine, but they are weaker. To understand the engineering with the speed of shifting is amazing.
@brianb-p6586Ай бұрын
While the active hydraulic control of the differential clutch is interesting, it is not as unusual as one might think - even GM has use their electromechanically operated equivalent (which they call "eLSD") since 2014 (or earlier?) on a least some variants of the Corvette and other models, and other manufacturers have their own versions What is more unusual is the planetary differential, rather than the usual bevel gear design. They're readily available - Schaeffler supplies these to some manufactures of production vehicles - but still not common. They're used because they are compact, particularly in the axial direction.
@trabajostecnicos28 күн бұрын
El doblaje es de Pocholo y Borja Mari 😂😂😂😂. Buen reportaje, saludos.
@threadtapwhisperer5136Ай бұрын
Man, you the MVP for getting this awesome detailed nerdy stuff to me and everyone else! Good lawd nah, would ya just look at it? Fricking GORGEOUS, bro, beautifully engineered. Hell yeah, brother!
@Chris-ml3hwАй бұрын
Super cool. Thanks Alpine!
@pcreadАй бұрын
That narrow torque-band means they have to changes much more often per mile than a road car. Some circuits more than others.
@andreasselbergs702124 күн бұрын
The most interesting thing for me is that the gears are simple spur gears and not helical. When I think of how noisy the reverse gear is in my vehicle, it’s astonishing that these gearboxes don’t scream when under load.
@geniferteal4178Ай бұрын
Not a radically different design. The shape and input an output is obviously different.But otherwise it's just super strong and very good at what it does. It still uses a relatively similar technology. As this is mentioned at 8:58
@colinbeckstrand2612Ай бұрын
Showing Lance beached in the gravel when talking about the reverse gear is hilarious. He didn't even use reverse and there was an escape road he could have taken to keep going forward.
@idokwatcher2062Ай бұрын
There's that forum story of a guy that drove spare parts for these gearboxes across europe because flying them out on race day would take longer than driving. He used a Carrera 996 3.4L to do it.
@chriscampbell7245Ай бұрын
4:07 this guy sounds like Ricky Gervais... I wonder if they grew up in the same area
@deltacx105929 күн бұрын
F1 is 90% dealing with insane regulations and 10% racing.
@Jojo_BeeАй бұрын
HOLY SHIFT!!!😲😲😲
@drfibonacci7570Ай бұрын
Shift happens
@WinnfieldCustoms29 күн бұрын
I love how competetive F1 is behind the scenes, its all cutting edge
@KingofUrasus29 күн бұрын
Let’s see how this diff works!
@benjones436526 күн бұрын
That was fantastic. Thank you very much.
@DrDeuteronАй бұрын
12:48 the steering "wheel" display is not public info. So how do the teams handle confidential info? Are there different proprietary levels? Is it compartmentalized need-to-know (e.g. our gear-box expert doesn't know any details about the fuel system and likewise for the aero ppl)? Are there special access developments that some key team members (in different areas, duh) aren't even aware of? What kind of background investigation do you need to pass to get on an F1 team?
@markchapman2585Ай бұрын
I would love to have that see through transmission. Awesome video.
@vannustubeАй бұрын
why is the bevel gear a separate gear? couldn't the final drive gear have it's teeth at 90 and do both bevel and final drive?
@glennacАй бұрын
L❤VE these engineering videos❣️ Sure, driver strategy and talent play a significant role in winning races and championships. But if they don’t have the technology, and reliability, underneath them they aren’t going anywhere. So many potential careers have been let down by poor equipment.
@mendo707savmrb8Ай бұрын
F1 cars are absolutely amazing
@tsbrownieАй бұрын
Note: wear creates heat, heat is a byproduct of wear (friction).
@m3tvl138Ай бұрын
The reverse gear is meant for people like Stroll lol 😂 9:22
@shawnsousa747315 күн бұрын
How does this comment not have more engagement?!? This had me rolling 🎉
@kento6201Ай бұрын
At this rate we will be able to build our own F1 Cars 😁
@UKBUILT28 күн бұрын
I would like to see that 😍 I'm building my own V12 supercar with the OG zonda engine 😎
@Деныч-т9щ5 күн бұрын
БРАВО , ЗА ПЕРВОКЛАССНОЕ ВОЖДЕНИЕ И ХОРОШЕЕ ЧУВСТВО СВОЕГО АВТОМОБИЛЯ !!!!!!!!!!
@gfpuntoАй бұрын
It's always a good day when your mind gets blown away.
@terranzoidАй бұрын
Keep the gearbox and bring the V10s back?
@UKBUILT28 күн бұрын
Yeah 💪 I'm using a V12 for my project 😎
@SubversionGarageАй бұрын
Having a cost cap negates the need to limit component usage. Let the teams spend their budget however they deem fit
@nathanplayseuphoniumАй бұрын
This just informed me of new tactics for diff adjustments in sim racing.
@peterthomas5792Ай бұрын
That diff is just gorgeous!
@adamturowski8948Ай бұрын
7:28 The highlighting is wrong. It should be moved one gear to the left.
@geraldgoodiii699321 күн бұрын
3000mi on an F1 gearbox is actually insane. Running 14k rpm with super fast WOT gear shifts (obviously has an ignition cut when they shift) They used to be able to have unlimited number of motors and gearboxes per season.
@Rob2Ай бұрын
"every F1 car should have a reverse gear" Lance Stroll: "really? why? you can just make a U-turn and drive back through the gravel!!"