How GMO Salmon is Changing our Food System | Future of Food

[@freethink]

Should we be more receptive to GMO foods?

[@approveddust8367]

Absolutely

[@ThVssl]

Yes, there's no evidence that it's bad.

[@novelnouvel]

Of course. As long as its not a lion goat and snake combined together. IYKWIM

[@freethink]

@@novelnouvel we only eat wild-caught liongoatsnakes.

[@franzb69]

no

[@kbejko]

Small correction: there was no "ocean pout hormone inserted". What was inserted was an "ocean pout promoter gene sequence", that turns on the salmon's own growth hormone year round.

[@freethink]

We've added a correction to the description, thanks for pointing it out.

[@ti-lo5hy]

I dunno but if I had to be in heat year round I'd sooner kill myself than mate... But hey what's it matter? They're not human 🤗

[@charlesfredrick4789]

I thought we went through this whole growth hormone thing with cattle pigs and chickens

[@nixtoshi]

@@ti-lo5hy It's a growth hormone, not a booster for the desire to mate. I'm all for plant-based diets, but you have to choose humans over animals if you are pro-human. That's why we test medicines in animals first, and why we still eat animals

[@hairglowingkyle4572]

"It is so unnatural, it's a Frankenstein" *Looks at pugs and watermelons*

[@Azknowledgethirsty]

It'S sO uNnAtUrAl... And so is being so healthy at age 60

[@5irus]

It's not unnatural to be healthy at 60 if you have a good diet and exercise, what kinda response is that?

[@Azknowledgethirsty]

@@5irus wtf? Before the industrial revolution no-one was healthy at 60, only our good diets which are 100% artificial (current fruit and vegetables are not natural you know), good luck being healthy at 60 without antibiotics and vaccines

[@5irus]

@@Azknowledgethirsty Just eat meat. You're being lied to about what's bad and good. Grass-fed beef is amazing for you, but it's being advertised with the whole "eating animals is bad go vegan!!!" Bullshit because plants are easier to farm and mass produce. Grains are atrocious for your body; bread, cereal, and the likes are all bad for you and your immune system. Sugar is an atrocity to mankind. The fact that candy is aimed for kids is repulsive and very telling of the food industry. You want to be healthy? Eat nothing that's advertised, focus on local butcheries, avoid GMO products and processed meats, and for the love of God, stop eating fast/junk food. Veggies are great, fruits not so much (but still fine in moderation). Avoid any wheat product like the plague.

[@ti-lo5hy]

Almost misunderstood your comment lol.

[@bluefish1637]

@@Azknowledgethirsty only if the vaccine you take isnt contaminated with mercury poisoning people should be aware of what's in the stuff we're eating/taking and not just automatically assume it's safe

[@rafaelmoreno9597]

The part that is disturbing is that though it's approved by the FDA, no labeling is required, which means that I no longer have a choice here in America. This is horrendous. I DO NOT WANT TO EAT THIS!

[@thefpvlife7785]

Agree. Labeling gives us that option and it's criminal without a label.

[@thefpvlife7785]

@@Freak_Bob_Serbia Please let us know what evidence do you have that it's safe when no label is required. I'll wait Sir.

[@hachiroku7443]

The Idea of eating banana, carrots and tons of vegetables and fruits are all GMO😂 you suck ,your mouth open faster than your brain.

[@omicronrho9951]

@@thefpvlife7785 the fact that it’s not labeled means that their is no major difference

[@charlesmrader]

I can tell you a way to avoid ever eating the GMO salmon, with 99.95% certainty. And it's really easy. Do nothing at all. The total annual production of AquaBounty is a few thousand tons of salmon and world annual salmon production is around 50 million tons.

[@TobyCowles]

Sorry if I am mistaken but I would like to have the statement "you put a pound (of feed) in and you get 1 and 1/4 pound out" clarified, this statement doesn't make much sense to me, given the law of conservation of mass, you can't magically get more mass from nothing, where does that extra 1/4 pound come from? or is the statement reversed? 1 and 1/4 in and 1 out would still be pretty good and make a lot more sense. Thanks for clarifying -Toby

[@kbejko]

Fish feed conversion ratio is 1:1. 1 pound of fishfood gives you 1 pound of fish. Now, if your fish can get to 10 pounds in half the time it would take other fish to achieve the same weight, you save on food on that fast growing fish. In effect, you're getting a better than 1:1 Feed Conversion Ratio (FCR)

[@florianpfeiffer9332]

I am no expert, just thinking out loudly: Fish food is likely dry while the fish itself does include water too. So you have 1 kg of food + for example 1 kg of water to end up with 1 kg of fish :)

[@TobyCowles]

@@florianpfeiffer9332 you are right, I ended up doing some research and the ratio is based on mass of consumable product in to consumable product out, the fish have water mass. The standard ratio for normal farmed salmon is 1 pound in to 1.2 pounds out.

[@applesaucemannomadicgarden529]

you need to take oxygen into the equation as well, since it does have mass.

[@s.n.7990]

I eat 0.5 pound of sweets and I get 2 pound weight

[@mintmarksi9072]

AQB ticker symbol 👍

[@callmeterry5371]

How come that we feed 1 pound in, then we get 1 pound and a quarter out? Does that violate conservation of mass? Where does the quarter come from?

[@TobyHardtospell]

I was wondering that too! I think it's water weight, though. Even humans are 80% water, so it makes sense that if you add a pound (or a bit less) of muscle to fish, it'll weigh more because it'll also contain a lot of water.

[@nukecommander9419]

While I don't completely understand how it works but I'd assume the fish are just more effectively getting nutrients out of the compressed food pellets and turning that into "decompressed" meat ie water, and the protein from said pellets.

[@faizhadiyan]

I don't know, maybe that's the mass of Air!

[@a1xon]

Pretty sure that's bullshit

[@kbejko]

@@a1xon AquaAdvantage grows twice as fast as conventional salmon, therefore it needs less feed to grow to SAME size, hence the "ADVANTAGE" in AquaAdvantage.

[@chaoticrealm777]

Why are people so afraid of GMO fish? There's research already about the burnt parts of grilling causing cancer and people still eat it anyway.

[@shannonhunt7966]

After watching this video, I'm wondering if the company I work for will use any or all of the things talked about in my line of work

[@Interopader]

When an animal or a plant grows at twice the speed of a naturally evolved version, does the nutrient content remain the same? Are nutrient deficiencies safe?

[@ti-lo5hy]

I'm no egghead scientist but my bet is that the research is pushed along for financial purposes. As far as my uneducated-self knows, cows produce milk like humans, only during gestational periods and shortly after. Pushing the limits beyond that might present unexpected results. Might. Dunno. So you either need to keep impregnating cows or provide the hormones that simulate such a state (if this is true). "Science" is a double-whammy. You get some awesome stuff out of it but it also creates new problems.

[@majorfallacy5926]

On the one hand it isn't really an issue because almoat nobody (except some vegans) in the developed world is anywhere close to suffering from nutrient deficiencies. On the other i assume nutrient content can be tightly controlled via feed

[@nixtoshi]

The studies on these fish show that they are the same meat, they aren't inferior nutritionally, in fact you can make the meat superior and less disease riddled (like how organic non-GMO vegetables and fruits are pest and disease riddled, specially if you didn't use pest-control on them). GMO fish can be bigger by having better nutrient absorption rates, and most of all by constantly growing unlike natural fish that stop producing growth hormones, hence they stop growing, and won't need to absorb as many nutrients. It's just like a child vs an adult human, the adult won't use most of the food she eats, unlike a child, that will assimilate their food better in order to grow

[@AmadeusThiemann]

Elephant in the room: WHAT DOES IT EAT? wild caught fish or plats? If plants, does it still have healthy omega fatty composition? Efficient groth and sustainability are not exactly the same thing!

[@GimmeDatKidney]

😢 unfortunately they eat the regular salmon if you let them. They’re hostile.

[@omicronrho9951]

@@GimmeDatKidney the strong eat the weak

[@aminuddinsoopar]

Cheaper protein and cultivated fast to solve incoming famine? YES science!

[@Janon48]

I’d love for all the anti-GMO people to try living for a month in a starving third world country where people barely scrape by subsistence farming and then come back and talk about how evil gmo’s are

[@eigelgregossweisse9563]

They starve you out by overfishing, creating factors to make a "third world country", then they replace GMO's with what little is there left. Control, that's how you do it. Then you brainwash the population, telling them that's just how it is, and the result is this. x)

[@RandallWilks]

The weight of the food is obviously dry weight. It either absorbs water prior to ingestion, or the fish takes in water to compensate. The harvested product is obviously 'wet' weight.

[@applesaucemannomadicgarden529]

Talk about India, where cotton farmers committed suicide because they grew GM cotton and it didn't produce well at all.

[@Andrew..J]

*ItS nOt NaTuRaL* Neither is purified drinking water.

[@colindevoe8713]

This seems like the natural progression for food production. If it saves our environment, I'm absolutely in

[@popeyegordon]

@Infinit 0 Yes you are. Sooner than you think. The Darwin award is certainly near for morons like you. Your sudden heart attack you got because you ate beef instead of fish is on the way.

[@popeyegordon]

@Richard Skipper Another extremely ignorant hateful lie from you, the troll moron.

[@nixtoshi]

GMO foods do way more than just helping the environment. I personally don't like meat in general due to its bad effects on health, but GMO fruits and vegetables are way superior to organic ones

[@charlesmrader]

@@nixtoshi I'm glad you like GMO fruits and vegetables, but I question your data base. There are hardly any GMO fruits and vegetables. There are a few apples, some papaya, a few squash, and some potatoes. I don't know if you eat raw soybeans (sold as "edamame", but these are always, in my experience, organic. Purple tomatoes are on the way, but you wrote this in 2021 so you have never eaten a GMO tomato.

[@edpiv2233]

Thank you for not saying global warming.

[@Commenter2001]

That feed conversion ratio is uncovering new physics. 1 lb of feed gives >1 lb of meat. Truly a breakthrough !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mass is no longer conserved. It’s like the Big Bang in new salmon physics. Wow….JUST WOW!!!!!!!!!!

[@ti-lo5hy]

*Monsanto slowly creeps up* "Hey kids whatchu doing there...?"

[@mdinunzio7610]

Lol

[@nixtoshi]

GMO food is the best. Monsanto FTW. I live in south america, and even though there is a lot of produce and variety, a lot of it is riddled with diseases, bugs, and worms. GMOs, pest control and artificial selection solve that, they can also increase size, color and flavor apart from clearing the plant's diseases

[@rudytorres6749]

I'm all in for GMO, especially now with the population growth increasing. I think it's about time GMO'S should be available in the market and a norm in our diets 🤷‍♂️

[@TobyHardtospell]

Yeah, it annoys me how stuff is labeled 'no GMO' when there's nothing wrong with them. I wish I could by 'pro GMO' - labeled foods :)

[@applesaucemannomadicgarden529]

yeah don't buy that "no GMO" crap.. It hardly has any electrolytes at all..

[@2drealms196]

That population boom isn't happening in your country, its not happening in my country. Its not going to happen in the western world. Developing countries are the ones predicted to see huge spikes in populations, so why do western countries need this product? There already are fishfarms with non-gmo fish. Are those not sustainable? Can the west not sustain itself agriculturally?

[@freethink]

People are right that the population is increasing, but it's worth noting that the population growth rate is declining globally: www.un.org/development/desa/en/news/population/world-population-prospects-2017.html However, as developing countries urbanize and grow richer economically (a good thing), they also tend to consume more meat. www.who.int/nutrition/topics/3_foodconsumption/en/index4.html Keeping the world supplied with fish using current practices has dramatically hurt ocean ecosystems via overfishing. Fish farms are definitely a step in the right direction, but as mentioned in the video they can suffer from disease or predation, and are more limited in where they can be placed than enclosed structures on land. As demand for meat increases globally, using fish which are able to grow to maturity faster and can be reliably grown anywhere could be a valuable tool.

[@thezenutz7289]

You fuckin twats.

[@bunnyplague99]

How are you getting more food out that you put in? Literally defies the law of thermodynamics 😂😂😂

[@antoniovasquez9946]

Can we do dinosaurs next, please

[@xperimentalone]

0:15 "It is so un natural!" Ah...have you heard of Beyond and Impossible meats?

[@bthemedia]

So is there NO Antibiotics in these farmed salmon?

[@kbejko]

There should not be. There are not in the open sea, subject to whatever the tide may bring. People walk-in disinfecting shoes and hands. They are basically raised in a germ free drug laboratory. ...just like the FDA wanted.

[@popeyegordon]

The whole antibiotic thing has become another marketing scam like GMO free or gluten free. It is illegal to sell any poultry that has antibiotics but look at all the labels boasting 'antibiotic free' when it would be illegal to contain antibiotics. The use of antibiotics in beef and pigs has been cut way back voluntarily and if a flock of birds or a pond of fish need antibiotic treatments they are quarantined during and after treatment until the drugs are dissipated.

[@charlesmrader]

@@popeyegordon I think you are mixing up antibiotics with hormones. In the US, it is illegal to use hormones for poultry production, but not antibiotics. There are regulations limiting antibiotic use, but it isn't a ban.

[@popeyegordon]

@@charlesmrader The Aqua Bounty farms are so high tech and protected they have no way to get infected with fish diseases. They used gene splicing instead of hormones. It is legal to use antibiotics after a disease is detected but not for use as a growth stimulant.

[@charlesmrader]

@@popeyegordon Yes, but I am referring to what you wrote here: "It is illegal to sell any poultry that has antibiotics ... "

[@popeyegordon]

At the time this video was posted there was no distribution plan announced for production from the first and second farm. It takes time to ramp up production. It has been decided that the first shipments will go to college cafeterias and restaurants for at least a year. It will be a while before there is enough production to stock sea food markets with it but the expansion plans will be steady and eventually huge. Startup costs are not cheap but they know that the great economy of feed efficiency means they will come out on top eventually. Wild salmon stocks will continue to fall short of demands. We will have to do this with more and more sea food species as ocean stocks continue to decline and ocean warming and acidification will mean some sources will dry up for decades or permanently. Pro tip - learn to appreciate seaweed salad and imagine plankton cakes.

[@SL4US]

We should either all collectively stop having kids or start thinking about gmo or more efficient ways to grow food

[@hobbyhermit66]

Don't think I'll be eating more salmon. They should cross hogs with pythons, for more ribs. Mmmmmm

[@TheOverturned]

1:10 2 Billion in 30 years? That is not the estimate I have heard before.

[@jcarter6820]

THEY GONNA KILL US YET

[@Southerncyclist]

We been eating engineered chickens for a long time now. Main thing is make sure they never make it into the wild.

[@lulu4825]

Well I’m not eating fish anymore, because I have a bad feeling about it

[@popeyegordon]

@Richard Skipper That is a blatant malicious bald faced lie. Why would you do such an idiotic thing like this? Are you in an institution?

[@Drivenwithambition]

@@popeyegordon I saw you on almost all the gmo video I watched,leads me to believe you’re an industry plant troll

[@popeyegordon]

@@Drivenwithambition My retirement hobby is defending our honest hard working farmers and crop scientists. I also have a degree in marine aquaculture. When you cry shill you are making the most stupid of all debate blunders. The shill gambit is always a forfeit of the debate at hand. It is a pathetic form of cheating by trying to poison the well rather than countering with a cogent refutation that might prove your point or win a debate. I see lameoids pull this stupid blunder 5 times a day, 2000 times a year in the GMO debate because I win with peer reviewed science citations. If you want to prove a fault in science, use the tools scientists use, peer reviewed studies and unbiased information sources. If you don't have solid evidence, consider what a fool you are being. Shill shill shill just makes you look like a desperate blathering idiot and forfeits every time, the win goes to verifiable science truth. Explained simply here(or in the dictionary of your choice): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_well This is especially ludicrous when you consider the GMO safety debate ended six years ago and no company for profit anywhere would spend a single penny paying a "shill" to promote something already attained in 2016: allianceforscience.cornell.edu/blog/2016/05/gmo-safety-debate-is-over/

[@popeyegordon]

@Eric Liu The Richard Skipper troll is gone. He is the first one I confronted. The fad of veganism directly goes against our genetic makeup and evolution. *Like meat? Early humans almost exclusively ate protein and hunted large animals for 2 million years* Jackie Dunham | CTV News | April 20, 2021 "In a study recently published in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology, academics from Tel Aviv University in Israel and the University of Minho in Portugal examined modern biology to determine if stone-age humans were specialized carnivores or generalist omnivores. They discovered 25 lines of evidence from the studied papers on human biology that seem to show that earlier Homo sapiens were apex predators at the top of the food chain. For example, the academics explained that humans have a high acidity in their stomachs when compared to omnivores or even other predators, which is important for consuming animal products. “Strong acidity provides protection from harmful bacteria found in meat,” [researcher Miki Ben-Dor said.] “Comparing humans to large social predators of today, all of whom hunt large animals and obtain more than 70% of their energy from animal sources, reinforced the conclusion that humans specialized in hunting large animals and were in fact hypercarnivores,” the academics noted." geneticliteracyproject.org/2021/04/20/like-meat-early-humans-almost-exclusively-ate-protein-and-hunted-large-animals-for-2-million-years/

[@charlesmrader]

@ericliu5491 I know many Hindus and Muslims. Most of the Hindus I know are vegetarian, for religious reasons. A few are not vegetarian, probably because they have somewhat modified beliefs. But I don't know any vegetarian Muslims. I used to volunteer to help feed some Muslim refugees and the effort was organized by Muslims, set up in the basement of a mosque. There was no effort at all to exclude meat from the distributed food.

[@Da1PrettyT]

Yum! Its tasty, saves the fishes in the wild, and can potentially drive down the price of healthy foods. Where is the downside?

[@ddunkin4258]

"Nearly every fish is sterile "if they manage to get out That means there's still a possibility for reproduction.

[@charlesmrader]

No, the possibility of reproduction is also limited by numerous other factors. For example, the salmon farm is located in part of the US where the watershed ends up in the Gulf Of Mexico, which is too warm for salmon to live. The salmon are also entirely female, and can't reproduce without males. The nearest male Atlantic salmon are in the north Atlantic, a few thousand miles away. The following paragraph is not something you should take seriously as a protection against the salmon reproducing, but I find it a little amusing. Atlantic salmon grow to maturity to the ocean, but they do the sex act in the tributaries of rivers. Each salmon makes the journey from ocean to river seeking out the very same river in which it was spawned. So the poor female GMO salmon is going to be looking in the North Atlantic ocean for the river where she was spawned, which is actually a tank of water in Indiana.

[@dougkennedy4906]

Well if your afraid of franken fish get rid of your dog. Your dog has been modified from its origins also. Be afraid. Lol

[@hobbyhermit66]

Who's eating their dog?

[@hobbyhermit66]

@some body , hadn't thought of "them".

[@nelsonh2839]

We don’t eat dog , bro.

[@coronarysteaka1213]

We have every right to be concerned about what eating that genetically modified monster may do to us long-term genetically modified or dogs that have been bred to a certain specification is not the same because we do not eat our pets

[@xX_wiLLiam_Xx]

Hell yeah looks awesome id totally eat it

[@bluefish1637]

gmo is not good for you

[@xX_wiLLiam_Xx]

@@bluefish1637 theres nothing bad about it

[@xX_wiLLiam_Xx]

@@bluefish1637 idiot person

[@nixtoshi]

​@@bluefish1637 did you know all foods are GMOs? We did artificial selection on all the foods we eat now, look at old paintings of bananas, and watermelons. They will be unrecognizable to you. We are also GMOs, we evolve through random genetic modifications with every new generation

[@jackjensen422]

Michael's hair is looking 🔥

[@KamEt-69]

How can the fish grow more wait that he eats? It shouldn't be physically possible. Maybe it just absorbs more water?

[@charlesmrader]

wait => weight? The food given to the fish is dry. The growing fish is largely water. You are right. But look at some meat from land animals. They use a lot of energy to just fight off gravity. Fish don't have that problem, so in general you get more fish nutrient per feed nutrient that you get from land animal meats.

[@hasanchoudhurymd]

Politicians and media thrive on conspiracies! Sensationalism sells media and politicians. Food security and easy availability of safe good food is what we the public want.

[@applesaucemannomadicgarden529]

What are the health differences between these frankenfish and normal ones?

[@kbejko]

They have an extra chromosome that renders them sterile. (also, they might not be as 'bright')

[@michaelmilian4336]

Zero (form a consumers point of view). They are the same fish as Atlantic salmon. All the differences come form the supply side (eat less food, grow faster, no antibiotics)

[@charlesmrader]

Kreshnik, there are many non-GMO farmed salmon that are rendered sterile by the same method as Aquabounty uses.

[@popeyegordon]

Since there is no such thing as a 'frankenfish' your ignorant question can not be answered. If a fish is alive and healthy it is normal.

[@ramsundar3232]

@6.48 I see a evil in makeup and disguise.

[@rocksofoffence.righteousam2422]

Unfortunately, this freak of nature is all throughout the supermarkets in "underserved" neighborhoods.

[@rustyshackleford1091]

So why not just raise kings? Everyone is so stuck on Atlantic salmon for some reason.

[@rustyshackleford1091]

Infinit 0 Interesting, I’m from Minnesota so I wouldn’t know.

[@popeyegordon]

All readers note how the 'InfiniteO' troll is gone. Learn from that. As to why Kings were not used, top experts in aquaculture studied all possibilities and species for decades and found the genetic traits they needed in Atlantic salmon with a few extra ocean fish genes spliced in. Best feed to flesh conversion ratio possible.

[@AngharadVox]

Put one pound in, get one and a quarter pounds out. That is not how anything works, creating concern immediately.

[@popeyegordon]

Only if you are so innumerate you can't grasp that dry feed weighs far more when wet.

[@shopcrate5687]

It's fish crossed bred with other fish.. so what's the problem 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@helpinghandsolutions8665]

Nothing is real anymore, all about profit! We the people have to be accountable for the allowances of these things.

[@vprrealtor6244]

For those who claimed and said it safe to eat, let them eat it first for numerous years ahead and let the rest eat the natural one.

[@keslaaa]

The issue with that is the FDA has no requirement for them to mark the fish as GMO, so consumers don't have the option to simply abstain.

[@popeyegordon]

@@keslaaa Not an issue, an honesty. There is no difference so no label is needed. That's why we no longer label refined sweeteners and oils from GMO crops - the organic versions are chemically identical.

[@charlesmrader]

@@keslaaa Mr. Tippett, first that is simply untrue. Aquabounty cannot sell their fish unlabeled. To be precise, if you, the customer, eat salmon in a restaurant, it need not be labeled as GMO salmon by the restaurant, but Aquabounty cannot sell it unlabeled to the restaurant. That's not as transparent as it should be, but it isn't anything special for salmon. The same rule applies for all genetically modified food. Second, you might want to simply take your chances. Approximately one salmon out of 2000 is genetically modified. If you eat salmon every month, you would, on average, eat one GMO salmon every forty years.

[@omicronrho9951]

I totally agree. You are what you eat. Gmo people will make look like the Rock after competing in an Iron Man, while you look like someone after 10 years of chemotherapy.

[@Thirteen7447]

I'm NEVER eating salmon again unless it's wild!

[@michaelmilian4336]

Did you watch the video? Maybe try advocating for Aquabounty’s safe and sustainable farmed practices instead of overfishing wild salmon fisheries

[@hairglowingkyle4572]

Funny because wild fishes have more parasites and viruses compared to cultivated ones

[@charlesmrader]

I was scanning to comments to find one like yours. I will try to respect your preference to not eat a genetically modified fish. I think it's silly, but you have the right to be silly. But how silly? AquaBounty will harvest about 100 tons per month. The world produces 200,000 tons per month. So the chance that a salmon you buy is genetically engineered is one in 2000. So this month, you refrain from buying any farmed Atlantic salmon, and there's one chance in 2000 that you have done yourself any good. You have to do this for forty years to avoid eating one GMO salmon. It's up to you. How dangerous do you think these salmon are?

[@Thirteen7447]

@@michaelmilian4336 "safe and sustainable"?? 🤣 you can have it buddy

[@Thirteen7447]

@@charlesmrader How silly is it to eat ALL NATURAL foods?? For you to even try to tell me that a GENETICALLY MODIFIED ORGANISM is even remotely safe is as you stated....SILLY! Feel free to eat that garbage, I'll stick to mother nature. Oh and btw, salmon isn't the only fish in this planet. 😒

[@kriskropd]

Grow your own food.

[@Roland_Duson]

Hard when they try to monopolize nature.

[@popeyegordon]

@@Roland_Duson Total bullshit. Nobody can do that. You are free to eat what you want at all times unless you are in jail.

[@popeyegordon]

@Richard Skipper That is an idiotic conspiracy theory. But a foil hat will protect you from all.

[@rattlehead431986]

Genetically modified fish to cure hunger.... Fun! 🤣

[@carolbonnell1979]

Guess those fish won't be swimming up a stream on a beautiful day. Sad.

[@noahluard]

ah yes, the traditionally farmed fish all do that, don't they xD

[@popeyegordon]

Their tanks have a continuous 24 hrs a day current and day cycles on the lighting. So much for that...

[@popeyegordon]

@Eric Liu No that was NOT a joke, it was a malicious attack. All GMOs are ALREADY used responsibly, no exceptions. You posted a double straw man argument. But it is real curious that there is a Liu, a Lo and a Lu comment all here in one spot - odds are vastly against that. Carol has a gigantic playlist file of hundreds of videos and yet not one single subscriber, indicating she is not liked here. Your channel page is still blank after 3 years, also with not one subscriber.

[@PassFissn]

Remember most of that population is coming in Africa .

[@2drealms196]

@Emmy Daniella Ma He's saying the pressing need for this product to be in the western markets is not so pressing in reality.

[@dinnis19]

This video contains lots of misinformation, 1.it confuses gene for hormone and hormone itself. 2.it confuses feed conversion ratio with "fish in fish out"(FIFO) ratio. 1pound feed gets 1.25pound meat? obviously a lie.

[@popeyegordon]

Not a lie! That is the adoped industry standard metric for feed conversions. Obviously dry concentrated feed weighs far less than wet feed or flesh but it is common sense to realize that. Wet feed to wet fish ratio would be very different and is not the usual way of stating a ratio. We use the same convestion in rating the relative production of other meats like pork and chicken. Beef is unsustainable because the conversion is 10 to 1. US catfish farms do even better than 1.25 to 1.

[@justinrangel2289]

I’m going buy 10 of them and release them into wild 👹

[@fenfrostpaws2000]

They're sterile so nothing will come of it

[@popeyegordon]

You can't buy the live fish dumbass. And they are sterile. But who knows, this could energize wild stocks so they grow larger faster on less food. It's all good.

[@PretoBeleza]

No more fishing for your fish

[@julianrivas1224]

Holy shit this was really good! I’m been so tired of defending gmo foods since high school and their overall utilitarian effectiveness at feeding the starving world. The one year of shitty life you may or may not lose is worth a billion people living full lives.

[@thomasbroking7943]

Producing fish that can't reproduce? Doesn't sound like a smart move.

[@zacheysflip859]

Thomas Broking but it grow fast and doesn’t need much food

[@thomasbroking7943]

@@zacheysflip859 not reproducing means something has to keep making them. It did make me think of the Bears hunt they had recently... Why have i never heard of going into the mountains where the bears live & planting food sources to keep them there?? Plenty of they're coming to close, ..but nobody saying I'm going to plant a dozen berry bushes up the mountain so they can keep them over there.

[@zacheysflip859]

Thomas Broking I know but it works

[@thomasbroking7943]

@@zacheysflip859 yes it does once!

[@littlemissymissy9507]

And people are already dying for hungry??

[@bradlocken2621]

Does no one else think that maybe we wouldn’t have to constantly clear land for agriculture and modify animals to produce more food if there weren’t 8 billion people in the world? If we would let the population die off none of these environmental problems would be happening

[@sparkyjones560]

Yeah you're right bring back the bomb, nuke India.

[@popeyegordon]

@Richard Skipper No, YOU are sick, asshole. You have posted a dozen idiotic stunningly ignorant and hateful rants here. What we throw away is not relevant, you have no way of getting half eaten hamburgers to starving kids in Africa. And yer you have the FUCKING NERVE to tell someone else they need education!!! Holy irony, Batman!!

[@abukariba]

I mean its actually impossible to get more energy out then you put in, so i cant dee how 1 pound converses to 1.4 pounfs

[@mrnotsoperfect2190]

Apparently nobody has seen Jurassic Park Nature always finds a way

[@hachiroku7443]

People think some food they eaten and fruits, begies were not GMO 😂 all aroound you eat are all GMO’s even your loved chicken and bananas, carrots and a lot more to be mention.

[@ralphvalkenhoff2887]

I’m still going to fish. Look, the emphasis on keeping the fish contained was Extraordinary. Could it be that they didn’t want this creature swimming freely in the open waters? Economics maybe, however, it could be the impact on other Marine life. I bet they don’t know yet it’s ok for us to eat. Hmm. GMF is not on my high priority list of foods at this time.

[@ralphvalkenhoff2887]

Sean S I agree. Precisely my point. We’re playing with Fire. is this type of Ecological engineering worth the risk of cheaper foods? If, someday, our leaders had the power over us and wanted to make us more Compliant, I wouldn’t want to be Genetically modified.

[@mountainmamma1643]

I love GMOs

[@keithkeller698]

Im more concerned about the food that they feed it. If they feed it dog food like farm raised fish it will cause cancer.

[@MrSilviut]

You get MORE meat than the food you put in. WHAT COULD GO WRONG.

[@popeyegordon]

It is all going terribly right. That is the adoped industry standard metric for feed conversions. Obviously dry concentrated feed weighs far less than wet feed or flesh but it is common sense to realize that. Wet feed to wet fish ratio would be very different and is not the usual way of stating a ratio. We use the same convestion in rating the relative efficiency of other meats like pork and chicken. Beef is unsustainable because the conversion is 10 to 1. US catfish farms do even better than 1.25 to 1.

[@vyking0054]

🙊 , Jesus , 🤷🏾 , 🤦 . They don't have Nothing Better to do .

[@xkhours]

absolutely not. The food we already have is full of chemicals that are harmful as is with little oversight. (Search how many products are recalled yearly) and there’s likely to be less oversight with this, considering the amount of profit that stands to be made.

[@popeyegordon]

GMO salmon is the most highly tested food in human history! It took over 30 years to get this approved after it was redundantly studied to death, all aspects. It even took longer than the Golden Rice project. The resistance was, and is, a big bowl of wrong. Search to see how organic foods are recalled the most and they get no FDA certification or testing at all when a new plant breed is offered. Zero testing, it is put on store shelves and you are the willing guinea pig because you have been brainwashed by the organic foods industry for 30 years.

[@erickillg811]

Just a thought maybe people should start using birth control.

[@craftscute]

Hooray super salmon.

[@naomirobel9814]

Please tell me there isn’t anything wrong with my phone, am I the only one that keeps hearing these beep sounds like somethings on fire

[@rakeemrobinson]

Please Get A Life -__--

[@ladyo8297]

All i want is the labels to state gmo salmon. So i can avoid it..THANKS

[@charlesmrader]

ladyo, I can tell you how to avoid eating GMO salmon without a label. It's really easy and like 99.95% effective. Here's the method: Do nothing! Aqua Bounty produces about 100 tons per month. World salmon production is about 200000 tons per month. So the chance that your salmon purchase is a GMO salmon is one in two thousand. You'd need to eat salmon once a month for 40 years to have an even chance of eating a GMO salmon. And, by the way, if you buy the salmon in a store it will be labeled.

[@Girish18191]

make it a GMO free world for sustainable co existing among all the species or its human loss not earth's ....

[@geranwilson7552]

Absolutely not that is a recipe for disaster

[@trappedghost5273]

Sadly we are rappidly reaching our maximum population limit and we are trying to feed so many mouths. Imo we are running out of options. This is honestly imo one of the safest options we can go for. We already slaugher animals in very cruel and inhumae ways as well as inhumane conditions. And if ee can find ways to make their deaths to feed us a lil more meaningful id rest a lil better. Also for the whole " i like my food natural" thing i dono if some of you have looked at your food packages lately but there is some preservatives, extra chemicals for added flavor ect. This is a lil more " natural" in my eyes.

[@novelnouvel]

just nuke some over populated city in each country. problem solved

[@trappedghost5273]

@@novelnouvel yeah totally wont have lasting effects on the enviroment at ALL surely radiation wont leak into the soil and run off wont poison water. Nope. 😂😂😂

[@novelnouvel]

@@trappedghost5273 or we just need to stop producing medicine, vaccine, and antibiotics. modern problems require modern solutions 🤣

[@sfglim5341]

Novel Nouvel This is the dumbest comment I’ve read all day

[@jcarter6820]

ITS SAD HOW THEY DO US! SMDH

[@TheFeliceSkye]

The problem of not being able to feed all of these proposed new people really comes down to over-production and food waste. If we stop raping the land and stop buying more than we actually use we wouldn’t need to produce gmo foods because we’re “scared” we are going to run out. Also, why not take the money and the resources that we squander and use that to help with agriculture (however feasible) in other nations? There is more than one way to grow healthy food and all the money they spend on these high tech facilities to grow fake food with potentially long-term consequences they could be using it for facilities to grow real food elsewhere. Oh, I know why! That’s too much like right. It really comes down to greed and not really caring about others for real. Am I lying?

[@popeyegordon]

You are not lying, you are just ignorant. You have no way to get food scraps from American tables to starving African kids. Want to help? Do something to fix the corrupt African governments and soldiers and criminals who kill aid workers and steal their humanitarian cargo to sell for profit. They use hunger as a weapon of war.

[@wovasteengova]

As long as the fish, is being injected by natural substances.

[@popeyegordon]

Nothing is ever injected into any GMO food! Have you ever heard of an electron microscope? Did you even finish grade school???

[@hackman9035]

Pout fish is unclean.

[@jeremyneworleans]

That's a quick way to get excited when we have no long-term evidence that this doesn't cause cancer or other problems. You did not weigh out the reasons why we shouldn't do this in this video. Biased opinion by money I suppose?

[@sparkyjones560]

Everything causes cancer.. including cancer.. this is a dumb arguement. Newborn babies have cancer, the old has cancer and everyone in between has cancer. What causes cancer? Anything a scientist wants to blame it on. What causes cancer? Life. Life causes cancer.

[@popeyegordon]

@Richard Skipper No. You are wrong yet again. You have been a full 100% wrong here in every post.

[@rubbermallet3873]

welcome to the zombie apocalypse 😵💩👎🏽😭😂

[@thefpvlife7785]

You didn't solve a problem ... time will show you created a problem Ma'am.

[@sylviahanna8497]

Not I!!!!!!!

[@brayanruiz2252]

I don't know we have too many humans in the service and we need to get rid of some

[@k-1k-132]

You cant out a pound in and get 1,25 pound out you cant create 0,25 pounds out of nothing.

[@freethink]

The difference is the water weight.

[@k-1k-132]

Freethink makes sence

[@sparkyjones560]

Look guys. It's not "water weight". Animal farming has calculations of feed to weight ratios. Different species take and use the feed you put in and put on weight differently some take more feed than body weight, some break even some have a gain. With a species individuals have different rates due to their genetics. It's like the fat kid, or that dude that was jacked at 12 years old and hardly worked out or the really short kid or the really tall kid. Individuals are different due to their genetics but if fat breeds with fat, tall with tall, muscular with muscular, there's a good chance those genes reoccur in the offspring. If it continues it becomes the dominant traits. Less than 100 years ago there was one type of chicken it layed eggs. When it got old and stopped laying it was slaughtered and eaten. A market chain ran a contest looking for the biggest chickens that put on weight quick. They then bred these chickens together and created a meat chicken that doesn't lay eggs reaches 5-7 pounds in 8 weeks. You can get a meat chicken to 5 pounds on about 10 pounds of feed in that 8 week period. A meat chicken will put on that extra 1-2 pounds in the last week while the egg chicken will be laying eggs instead and smaller. An egg chicken will be smaller with the same amount of feed in the same amount of time. And it won't get much bigger because it's already started laying eggs and it's what it does. Same goes for meat cows vs. Milk cows. Instead of waiting and trying different mating and seeing the results, they are manipulating the genes to get the result without waiting generations to see the results of breedings. How do they get 1.5 pounds of meat for each pound of feed? The fish was gene manipulated into using most of what it eats to growth and muscle and less waste. It's using the vast majority of what it consumes to it body very efficently and not using it for reproduction. Meat cows are like 7:1 feed/meat ratio. Meat Chickens are 3:1 Meat rabbits 3:1 Meat Quail are 2:1 Fish in general are really efficient at using what they eat. Farm raised non GMO salmon is about 1.2:1 feed to meat ratio, catfish are similar. It's believable to me that GMO salmon could go to 1:1.5 with the right gene edit and a high quality food that doesn't have fillers. Land meat animals, specifically the large ones have worse ratios. It's not because of their size necessarily it's because they eat more unusable fillers or grasses and stuff that are low on calories where fish are carnivorous or omnivorus and eating other fish and fats and oils. If they shut off reproduction then the salmon won't waste energy on spawning behaviors and use that energy on growth and mass. There's a lot of information on these subjects on the internet, less about the GMO aspect of it and gene editing but GMO is just a faster version of selective breeding until you get the desired results. There's hot pepper growers cross breeding pepper plants with the goals of making hotter and hotter hot peppers. It takes years of trial and error and hundreds of plant pairings and then they've got to take the best and interbreed in order to make it breed true as a new species of hot pepper. Lots and lots of failures, but each year someone is succeeding and a new record breaker SHU hot pepper is created. GMO is the same thing but faster and takes out the guess work and the steps of breeding into same to get it to run true. It's a more scientific, faster process. Same results.

[@popeyegordon]

@@sparkyjones560 Oops, you really screwed yourself here. All those weights you listed include WATER in the meat. If we fed those animals wet grain slurry the numbers would be vastly different.

[@raizedfist]

Fukushima fish ie pacific caught

[@lulu4825]

Frankenstein as a fish

[@billosbilly7908]

No thanks

[@billosbilly7908]

Off course ? I choose how i live and what i eat, this just means baykot salmon, untill they regulate it as gmo ? Bit just eat it if you want to :) everybody have their own choise.

[@huffhuff4604]

Whhhhat if Earth used to be an animal farm?

[@donaldbrookings2886]

Salmon arnt suppose to eat dog food.

[@CoCo-jy3kp]

Wow man always want to play God. Let's all see how this turns out in 10+ years. I'm thinking it's going to be a really bad outcome...

[@yc__]

If you perform cpr on somebody do play god, because he intended this person to die?

[@omicronrho9951]

There's nothing wrong with playing god as long as you're good at it

[@CoCo-jy3kp]

@@omicronrho9951 fact is you're still PLAYING.

[@CoCo-jy3kp]

@@yc__ did you put ANY thought into that before pressing send?

[@yc__]

@@CoCo-jy3kp Explain why it's not a suitable comparison?

[@loyalroyal1015]

Freakenstein fish ?

[@johncats5903]

EAT FRANKEN-FISH or PIGS-FEET ???

[@ameliatribeofissachar7311]

WE SEE YOU ESAU!!! YOU WICKED PEOPLE!!! OBADIAH 1 #WE12DEEP #SonsAndDaughtersOfZionAreWakingUp #BlackHispanicNativeAmericanIndian #Hebrew

[@dwo356]

WTF....

[@jasoncr.5581]

Genetically Modified Organism SALMON!? So....is that a regular Salmon with a GMO sewn onto it? The GMO is Salmon flavoured? Hee hee....heres a real question, the author does'nt know what GMO stands for and added what type of organism at the end like a bumbling fool by accident?

[@myrietlewis6119]

HELL NO! GOD IS IN CONTROL. TRUST HIM. STOP THE MADNESS.

[@vector4227]

Feed them to your family first and if they still here and healthy in five years i might give it a try or not, natural is always better!

[@randylockard1192]

Did anyone see Jurassic Park? Let's stop playing God and let him do it

[@popeyegordon]

'Creation' is over, done with and ruined by our idiotic refusal to control our sex drives. We have over fished the planet.

[@angryapple1882]

I likie the way food is now leave it alone!

[@jamescameron5090]

They're not changing the food, they're changing how productive the food is. Even if you hate the progress of humanity, just buy your non-GMO salmon and be happy in your stubbornness.

[@seantmcvey]

The developing world might disagree

[@Davey3]

🥴🤢🤮

[@michaeldesilvio9980]

who dat eatin dat nasty food?

[@popeyegordon]

No nasty food is being discussed here. Move on.

[@jessicasaul5153]

Jurassic Park had the same premise...genetic modification/cant reproduce/cant get out...i think ill pass...js