How Good are Russian Fighters Actually?

[@perennialE]

I don't want to interrupt the flow of the video by asking for subscribers so I'll do it here :) If you miss the turn performance graphs from last video and want them back in future videos let me know. (kzbin.info/www/bejne/maTSeGyXrL-sias) Statistically they were the worst performing part of the last video, so I cut them out in this one. But if they are actually missed by a large amount of people, I'll see how I might be able to reimplement them in a more interesting way. Gaijin where is my MiG-33 or MiG-35 I want Super Fulcrums PLEASE

[@prestoo264]

moAR GRAPHS PLS

[@frosty8183]

Bro finally remembered his KZbin password

[@BinHandler12]

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[@RienRocks]

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[@spray916]

Su-27 flight model buff helped quite a bit. Same with the Su-27SM's engines. It actually has a useable flight model now.

[@schrodinger_cat-d9h]

Su-27sm new blue flamed engines got the same power.... as the old ones were supposed to have (12520kgs). New ones should have had 13600kgs each. Even more so, every single russian engine at top tier has reduced power Anyway despite having higher thrust to weight ratio already, flanker still somehow slower than the strike eagle (1.25 vs 1.15)

[@karkinos5398]

And it's still underperforming... Because they decided to give r27er to the mig29 instead of the r73 in the mig29 vs f16 top tier meta time.

[@phantom_ii4594]

If the snail allows it, I'd love to see the MiG-29M 9.15, the MiG-29S 9.13S, the MiG-29K and MiG-35 for the fulcrum series. As for the Flanker, my picks would be the Su-27KUB/33UB, the Su-30SM/SM2, the Su-27M and the Su-35 along with the Su-37. Some of these jets could be foldered with one -another, which would be nice, and would allow for a more unique and diverse T.T. experience. I guess the Su-27SM3 or the MiG-29SM could be added but I wouldn't really see a point in it. The MiG-29 9.18 would be a nice modification for the SMT in the game, as it would get rid of the hunchback and thus increase agility and speed, along with aesthetics, of course ;)

[@Duality.12]

Idk why gaijin hates the 29 It’s fm is abysmal and it should get r73s instead of 27ers.

[@goota-wt]

Its silly on gaijins part because the mig 29 9.13 was put into service without the er but it did have the r73

[@yashrandad7]

11:01 from a personal anecdote of a serving Air Force officer that flies flankers, they tend to polish glide bombs to lower drag as well as maintain symmetry, in heavier bombs, the asymmetry can throw off the guidance a lot and even cause the gliding wings to collapse and break at times. Edit: typo

[@perennialE]

I didn't know that, thank you for the insight!

[@MrRobschnieder]

Okay for any flanker its not hard to multipath, the trick is to always aim for water. Water in war thunder stops all splash damage.

[@lemonade4369]

I think its best to not multipath in any jets. Alot of enemy jets will not be spotted and have less field of view.

[@perennialE]

No water on Mysterious Valley :(

[@MrRobschnieder]

@ See i only play SIM EC, so no stupid spotting or missile markers. But multipathing is a must if you want to ever take the merge.

[@CAPYNANESLAY1708]

As a Italy and Ussr main theyr ass all of them have nerfed flight models A example The mig 29's flight model was good but for gajin it was too good so they straight up gave it a ass flight model and as a compensation better missles. What im trying to say is gajin makes russian planes missle busses because other nation mains keep crying if they dont have the best top tier for some time(Americans) wouldnt be like they have the best air tree since the f14 came out

[@perennialE]

I really wish they would take another look at the MiG-29 flight model so when we do eventually get the MiG-33 or MiG-35 they aren't absolutely ass.

[@peposad2588]

@@perennialE The r-77 aswell, its drag model is trash and it has much less range than it should have, but gajin answer for that was that they are going to add r-77-1 soon

[@CAPYNANESLAY1708]

@@perennialE Yeah they should just revert the changes and buff the suchois a bit because nowdays flight model isnt that important and it "wont break the game according to gajin"

[@AbhiChandra-ho6io]

The su27 has the correct flight model. There are multiple posts on reddit where people show that the su-27 has the correct flight model. The main issue is that the instructor doesn't work the best with Russian aircraft. The mig-29 nerf happened the other way. First the f-16 only had fox-2s and the mig-29 had radar missiles, but then Gaijin added the f-16 adf with radar missiles and in order to compensate, gaijin gave the mig 29 R-27ERs, which made it the best aircraft at both bvr and acm, so gaijin nerfed the flight model and turned it into a missile bus.

[@CAPYNANESLAY1708]

@ You couldnt habe said it better

[@FatherExo]

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[@shikikanaz4624]

su27sm is bad but the j11a is worse. its literally just a regular su27 at 13.7 with a extra MAW, which in most case is useless because of how many missiles are coming so you dont know if its coming for you or your ally. also can carry 10 instead of 12

[@AbhiChandra-ho6io]

7:23 The reason I think they can't change it is because if there is desync between the server and your computer, it can cause the missiles to do wonky stuff such as causing the speed to randomly spike and drop, especially now with the NA servers on life support

[@joshuamueller3206]

I keep getting an uncommanded left turn. Is that server issues or controller drift? My joysticks seem good, but the controller is going on 7 years old now.

[@Loudward__]

Hell yeah a perennial video

[@Shawnp05]

i really love the Mig 29 its my favorite modern day fighter out of any other fighter, i just wish it was better and gave it that good performance to keep up with the western aircrafts. Sadly it doesn't and hope it gets changed because it doesn't fell any good since the radar is really good but, its fox 3 just doesn't hold up and needs to be fixed plus the model it as well. I really see the Fulcrum as a completive aircraft against other countries, but it doesn't sadly.

[@Cloud_Stratus]

Multipathing is dead and unreliable, notching is far more effective, and at least I don't get crew locked when I mess it up. Also what's your source on R-77 not being modeled correctly?

[@joshuamueller3206]

Gaijin should give the MiG-29 a R-73 modification. Also, the loadout for the Yak-141 is completely fake, it only test carried the R-73 and R-77. The loadouts these aircraft have in game were fine when they were added, but Gaijin needs to go back and look at some of the aircraft they charged beyond.

[@YungRolex]

could you maybe upload in a slightly higher bitrate thanks?

[@perennialE]

Do you have a number to recommend? I think OBS reset my recording settings.

[@RienRocks]

I was in your match and saw you playing the F14 IRAF a few months ago. What’s your opinion on it; pre-BR increase and BR increase?

[@LarySeeAircraft]

Yak-141 is peak

[@Taczy2023]

As an American I never looked down at Russian planes. I've always considered them as good as American fighters in different ways. American fighters good at X, Russian fighters good at Y, etc. This is until 5th generation jet fighters, I think Russia could do some improving to the Su-57. Right now it is not on par with F-22 or F-35 in terms of stealth.

[@boot7585]

Bud got the yearly upload notification

[@Alisevenn13]

Multipath is for noobs

[@cerealenjoyer3000]

Did you try to change your voice to not sound like NileRed or did you just... grow up?

[@perennialE]

I got a better microphone and the cadence of my voice has changed a little since I started

[@KauppaKomissaari]

This might be partly due to gaijin not modeling aoa and g limiters on aircraft. Competition öike f16 should pull less aoa for example

[@kommandantkillcode]

The F-16 used to have a G-limiter, but Gaijin removed that and nerfed the MiG-29's flight performance in the same update :/

[@cvnt-x5t]

gaijin hates russian mig 29's SO MUCH

[@depolifyyy]

why the quality so bad :(

[@perennialE]

In what way?

[@depolifyyy]

@@perennialE It becomes really grainy sometimes and then other times its fine. I keep thinking youtube is changing my resolution

[@Thecar567]

Masive?

[@dorenfox6167]

we aint eating silica gel this time smh my head

[@TANKMUN]

🐛

[@fqeagles21]

I don't agree with the R-77 Rant,real Russian pilot IRL prefered to use the R-27ER instead of the R-77, only with the R-77-1 the opinion changed

[@perennialE]

The R-27ER is better than the R-77 in flight performance no matter what. My rant is about how Gaijin made the R-77 abysmal at the one thing it was explicitly designed to be good at (supersonic drag) because they couldn't figure out how to give it a different drag value at transonic speeds where grid fins are significantly worse.

[@ScribesTV]

@perennialE the r27 er is better in fp then all other missle s

[@fqeagles21]

@@perennialE ok but if the grille were a good thing why the R-77M has standard fins?

[@sovietbanana4589]

Issue is that despite the r-27 performing better than the r-77 in range irl doesn’t change the horribly inaccurate drag modeling of the missile in game. This has been a issue Brought up numerously, however the r-77 has drag that essentially works like a curve, and with the way it’s modeled it has a static drag number at the peak of the curve. Which happens to give it significant performance issues as a result.

[@BulletRain100]

It's hard to think any real Russian pilot IRL would prefer the R-27ER because it is an extremely unreliable missile. The R-27 missile has around a 10% hit rate, so it is functionally useless. This hit rate isn't a surprise because its the same the United States had in Vietnam with early versions of the Sparrow missile. It was only through active combat that the United States was able to refine the Sparrow into a worthwhile missile, and the Soviet Union (and by extension Russia) never got that iteration.

[@l3taggs]

Ratio

[@N-A762]

Your wrong about the SU33 its really good

[@AverageWTPilot]

Vrooooooom.

[@friesingcold]

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