How Good is FlaSh's Zerg vs Protoss?

[@Dashmast3r]

Thanks for the post-game analysis. That's what's been missing from most of your casts on this channel.

[@sololegit]

Agreed. It doesn't have to be much, but a quick post game summary is wonderful.

[@TagaBearClaw]

TRUE

[@narsakucanada154]

A few years ago I repented to God then begged for help, "I was until then an Atheist." I then had a dream of Jesus coming before God and he spoke of the Tabernacle in perfect context, "A word I didn't know existed.", and what I felt from Jesus when I held him was unlike anything I've ever felt before - A lifetime of Love every second - It brought me to sobbing and it changed my life, forever. I've had Many experiences since, "Several witnessed", one was seeing a bright orb of light pass across my face in the dark, hours before a major surgery the second I gave up in my heart. Know that God and Jesus ARE real and that they Love us deeply. Let go of your hatred and Imagine yourself holding the people who've hurt you. Tell them you Love them. Always have hope, I believe that prayer, following God's laws & Love is the answer, and through that, Truly becoming humble, merciful, welcoming, giving, gentle, respectful, compassionate, patient, kind and forgiving, To All.

[@alexanderxyz6146]

It's a nice to have - I am missing this in recent tournament casts on big events. They seem to do less of these post-game-a.s... I always thought it makes it all even more epic, the rewinds, the talking about it, and possibly including comments from the community and addressing them (in not too punny manner)

[@alexanderxyz6146]

Honestly it was so fitting and concise, I didn't even notice it's a so called "post game analysis" here! It felt almost like this analysis was needed and that I wanted it. That's when you know a caster is great, it comes over very naturally. (Flash made it happen, again) PS: I feel it's also a good natural way for some of the mentioned (suggested) "anti-spoiler" extra length... Fills it naturally. What can there be better?

[@MrRysiuWroc]

anti spoiler comment!

[@invisiblemenproduction]

Mvp

[@Azaraneth]

spolier: a guy wrote an anti spoiler comment.

[@cresalp]

welcame to theynter weeb

[@0o00o000ooo]

im a big fan of you casting random high level replays vs cherrypicking the most exciting replays. much more fun not knowing what type of game it will be

[@iopqu]

This is why you don't get fast overlord speed. Two hydra does so much when Protoss pressures you with just zealots

[@nafet]

Muta damage triggered a toss all in.

[@yaboykirby7789]

I think Flash was trying to hit a pre goon range timing with those Mutalisks. Protoss had one half health Corsair, no Dark Archons, no goon range, Flash baited a lot of psi storms before he went in and Flash parked his Mutalisks on top of probes so psi storm can backfire (as we saw in this game).

[@yaboykirby7789]

It seems like a very hard and risky build to play. In this game where Flash's build WORKED he had to micro Mutas while building enough Overlords to compensate for the Overlords he's going to lose when Protoss attacks while making sure he still built enough Hydralisks. That's something the best Zergs in the world would find extremely difficult. And there's a lot of things that could go very wrong like Protoss having an extra 2 Corsairs (this happens sometimes) or Goon range being done at a weird time (happens sometimes). If the build is so resource intensive that Flash has to stay at such a low Drone count to afford the Mutas + Hydras he needs AND he can't afford to make a really good Sim City then the build seems high risk low reward. I think this build is definitely optimizable though, how much I'm not sure. The other thing is is this a mindgame build? Did Flash trick his opponent into not having "anti-Muta" somehow? If so this build might just take too much effort to get good at for what it is.

[@lesna_pechalba]

I feel like the highest rank of Z's wouldve used mutas to snipe the templars while P was congolining down his base. He used mutas like it's a T unit. Maybe 1 sunk wouldve done alot as well on the expo. I've seen Queen always simcity+1 sunk on his 3rd expo so he doesn't get owned by zealots and save him time to do something else than trying to defend.

[@nixlarfs1002]

I _did_ raise my hand twice!

[@justincronkright5025]

The +1 armour finishing during the last attack was what gives the zealots enough staying power there... if he hadn't have had any storms left either that wouldn't have worked. But the +1 was doing so much work there to countre Zerg's +1.

[@jackymao2131]

He attacked with hydras to force storms right b4 the mutalisk came that was awesome

[@tade5003]

Zerg life…make a a batch of drones at the wrong time and ur toast. You cant do mistakes with Z.

[@milesg7877]

A few lukers and the mutas focusing ht instead of drones. Also, him sending in the mutas triggered the counter attack a great game flash defense early was outstanding. He is stretching the eco but his hydra attack seemed late and your right the building did conflict

[@AntiDoctor-cx2jd]

ZERG IS THE HARDEST RACE!

[@unblessedcoffee1457]

those mutas went to top gun academy or something

[@Pico141]

It seems Flash is really having issues figuring out whether to make drones or units. He definitely was way too behind on workers and at 11 minutes there should be more hatches and/or lurker tech

[@narsakucanada154]

A few years ago I repented to God then begged for help, "I was until then an Atheist." I then had a dream of Jesus coming before God and he spoke of the Tabernacle in perfect context, "A word I didn't know existed.", and what I felt from Jesus when I held him was unlike anything I've ever felt before - A lifetime of Love every second - It brought me to sobbing and it changed my life, forever. I've had Many experiences since, "Several witnessed", one was seeing a bright orb of light pass across my face in the dark, hours before a major surgery the second I gave up in my heart. Know that God and Jesus ARE real and that they Love us deeply. Let go of your hatred and Imagine yourself holding the people who've hurt you. Tell them you Love them. Always have hope, I believe that prayer, following God's laws & Love is the answer, and through that, Truly becoming humble, merciful, welcoming, giving, gentle, respectful, compassionate, patient, kind and forgiving, To All.

[@russellsheridan3957]

Flash had significant worker deficit. Maybe mutas were just a tiny bit too late, especially with the goons coming

[@DerKontrabass]

Artosis casts Flash's games with such unusual level of respect and dedication :)

[@StriKe_jk]

Flash would have won.

[@Pico141]

@bigmikeobama5314 no

[@yaelz6043]

lol

[@skykur]

@bigmikeobama5314 wood’ve

[@gosuf7d762]

he had 10 hydras at nat but they were funneled through narrow path and shot down one by one by goons.

[@robertovonschoettler]

It is not the hands that I put up for you arty

[@Winnetou17]

I like that Spire placement. It has natural defenses. That is, if the protoss comes or drops or recalls 20 zealots, because of it's placement it can still only be attacked by .. 2 ? Same idea with the dragoons, you can hardly have enough space to put many dragoons there to attack it. If everything is cleaned up, they yeah, it will be quick, but if the whole expansion is cleared, then probably Flash already lost the game anyway.

[@Pico141]

The main concern for spire placement is just making it harder to scout - and that spot is pretty good for that. Losing a spire in zvp is extremely rare, and there's no recalls or mass drops in PvZ.

[@TheTrooperMB]

i have never used recall in pvz in my life , that just doesnt work , arbiter is bad in that matchup , u want gas for archons , storms and later reavers , not stasis or recalls

[@Winnetou17]

Ok, fair points with the arbiter, I don't remember it being used also. But seeing zealots destroy key buildings, I did see. Quite rare, but I did.

[@chessentials4261]

Idea: Bring up some historic games/aeries and cast them from the modern perspective (e.g. Flash vs Jaedong games, prior ASL finals, etc). I am aware you commented many of these live :D, but it is a bit tricky to navigate. Having some sort of playlist/place for historic matches aould be a nice way to immerse oneself in the games rich historical legacy

[@matrix3509]

Would love to see how Flash approaches ZvZ.

[@DjAtmaWeapon]

Hahahah yup, what a weird game xD Wasn't pretty sure at the end, really though it would hold as you said.

[@CloudianMH]

Buh, 25 drones to 50 and flash still chillin'

[@00Noontide]

Gg! Good cast.

[@silvercomic]

Hey Artosis do you know in these Flash games if he's playing random or race picking?

[@spinvn]

Race picking. But you can also tell that from his opponent's build order

[@i2eB6L]

I hear Flash, I raise my hand

[@TheDnltorio]

Artosis, with FlaSh having so many off race games, is there a chance that he will return to ASL as random and try and truly cement his title as the greatest gamer ever?

[@sebdeef1086]

He wont even comeback as Terran lol

[@Animefightforum]

He is in very deep waters rep-wise so I'd hope so for the sake of the game, but think its wishful thinking at this point madlad

[@Obeliskz87]

@@Animefightforum He is deep water? How so?

[@marsmartian]

If we could see active mining income, we'd be able to see how disruptive interrupting early minerals can be

[@Pico141]

We probably would've gotten those features if, around Starcraft Remastered release, some boomers that play this game weren't coping like "oh but we love not having all the information and being uncertain about the state of the game" and so Blizzard made it so you don't even get worker counts and build queues in live casts. You can only find that in replays. It's so stupid that they didn't just make those features optional.

[@kevincarrigan2798]

I feel like it is watching Uthermal play zerg. He tries to play it much more like a terran and I feel it throws people off.

[@uero-ro]

Flash left with 12 Hydras at 90% completion?

[@warioman91]

✋️🤚 always enjoying your vids Artosis

[@branovropka8959]

love u arty

[@alexanderxyz6146]

gg I came all over this video.

[@FP-ih1lu]

love u artosis

[@GustavoJanssen]

Give us flash boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@oliverwarren1074]

It feels like every video with flash, bisu, stork or jaedong ... they lose. I need to run the numbers.

[@nandinoo]

Fl-Fl-Flash!

[@cl8804]

did not at all look like zerg would die, ye

[@Andthepanda]

Artosis please fix your reflux acid when casting

[@TagaBearClaw]

GGS

[@realEvanRichards]

Hydra good unit.

[@Zyzyx442]

So Flash is God, but he can't make Ghosts or Scouts work in ASL. Does this prove God does not exist? Or is it possible?

[@wyldechild7122]

Al go rhy umb

[@billybob-wx2re]

flash coulda won that for sure. he just lost interest and wanted to gogo next

[@krakenpolar1]

prottos are so strong in starcraft 1... thats just impossible for zerg to win... and you cant select more than 12 units... thats horrible

[@sharpasacueball]

What? Play protoss and come back after stopping an all in from a zerg player

[@joelb1299]

Easy Zerg

[@andrerossel8394]

This is simple. Dragoon sucks zealots are good. Flash needed lurkers

[@deepzerocool]

RT out of sync w the game situation

[@Link457]

third

[@prasaite]

First