" Its over for every MF who tried to play me" I am saying this every morning when i get outta bed
@LionMentality19827 ай бұрын
💯
@_krimzen_7 ай бұрын
This is terrible news for the broncos. They have to play him.
@brutusvonmanhammer7 ай бұрын
@@_krimzen_Why is it terrible? Troy Franklin is a monster
@fletcherfarris43507 ай бұрын
@@_krimzen_Troy is gonna be legit, call me a biased duck fan but if you watched him in games he was way closer to MH jr than he was to a mf like Keon Coleman who was the first pick of round 2. Picking guys who know what it’s like to produce numbers is gonna be huge in developing Bo
@Warthogg-wv5wg7 ай бұрын
Courtland mini with speed. Dude does whatever it takes to get the touchdowns
@SBRS477 ай бұрын
Conservatively I predict Bo Nix will win 12 MVPs in 11 seasons.
@scarecrowscene4437 ай бұрын
at least 6 Super Bowl MVPs too
@matthewfairchild38467 ай бұрын
You forgot the decimal. .12 😂
@pigdroppings7 ай бұрын
Since 2010, about 80% of 1st round QB draft picks have washed out. 20% of the time you get a Blue Ribbon winner... ..BUT, 80% of the time you get the Runt of the Litter.
@KazKolozak7 ай бұрын
Low prob 20 in years 2 but thats low for sure
@JB-gw8ee7 ай бұрын
@@pigdroppings we're talking about Bo Nix
@baboof23187 ай бұрын
Notre Dame fan here, I’m absolutely pumped for Estime. I know he was timed pretty slow at the combine, but his actual playing speed is way faster than that and he’s an absolute wrecking ball. Hope he goes crazy in Denver
@elscruffomcscruffy83717 ай бұрын
The 40 yard dash is a joke anyway. No pads, no pressure from defenders. They need to do these drills in pads and resemble actually game play!
@DavidSmith-tu1nd7 ай бұрын
I'm not too concerned about his speed in the 40. He isn't going down with arm tackles. 3rd and 4 he would love to square up with a linebacker. Love this pick.
@blue-pi2kt7 ай бұрын
@@DavidSmith-tu1ndTo paraphrase, Bum Phillips on Earl Campbell, if it's 4th and 40 yards I won't give him the ball but he is a fucking force of nature between the tackles.
@Warthogg-wv5wg7 ай бұрын
Nobody wants to hit him when he picks up speed you can see in the highlights 😂
@Metaintelligencia7 ай бұрын
I’m a Michigan fan and I went to the Ohio state notre dame game in south bend noticed the run game was rather good never knew the guys name after that game really wish ND put the names on the jersey
@userdeleteddd46337 ай бұрын
Bo Smoke is actually a fire name.
@nickmessner7007 ай бұрын
My personal favorite was Storm Duck. A UDFA picked up by the Dolphins.
@AlexanderHL19197 ай бұрын
Nah, while getting smoked would be a cool soundbite, blowing smoke is too much of a downside. If he had any other first name, it would've worked.
@903lew7 ай бұрын
@@nickmessner700Storm Duck? That guy f**ks.
@A_YouTube_Commenter7 ай бұрын
That is a guy who kicks ass or smokes a lot of weed.
@pti3.7 ай бұрын
Here while the title has NF draft Edit: It got fixed 😢
@eloisedevant11277 ай бұрын
Haha I wonder how long that will last
@Cheezus_Crisp7 ай бұрын
my comment about it was first you bum
@Ph03nix17 ай бұрын
Give him a break, he’s still hungover from the draft
@eggsmiles7 ай бұрын
Falcons took the L out of this title it seems
@pti3.7 ай бұрын
@@eggsmiles 😂 fuck no they putting it back in
@kdevinturner87787 ай бұрын
Perna has hope for Broncos again. Springtime has officially sprung. I wish him joy and happiness,
@KameSennin42097 ай бұрын
And fall brings us content
@batboy5557 ай бұрын
There is no way this could end badly.
@McP1mpin7 ай бұрын
Me too but only because we root for the same team otherwise Perna in despair is the best Perrna.
@willbutler26397 ай бұрын
I want to see him in agony🤣 as a Washington fan I expect nothing this season from my favorite team.. Washington hasn’t done anything since RG3. Although Washington had a great draft I expect nothing I expect no playoff birth. I definitely don’t expect anything along the lines of perna. The fall is going to be just like cowboys fans who have FINALLY stopped chirping saying “this is our year” because the delusion of cowboys fans has finally worn off and they can see that their team is the same as it has been since Tony romo. Dallas is good is the regular season. World beaters, beating up on everyone. Then the playoffs come, it’s something that happens to cause all their hopes and dreams come crashing down. Along with the fanbase. I think it’s jerry Jones the reason the team is cursed and can’t win. Just like how Washington was cursed under Dan. But the cowboys have been cursed since jerry wanted all the power from Jimmy and then it all came crashing down. Jerry Jones is the reason the cowboys will never win a Super Bowl until he gives up the team. Hopefully he sells the team or gives it to one of his dumb ass sons to destroy. Mainly I hope he doesn’t d¡e as the owner because the franchise may be cursed forever then.
@caliresester17847 ай бұрын
Ummm yeah at least we’ll get a fair comparison for Bo nix he’ll be playing from behind to mahomes or Herbert 😂😂😂 duck this up best one liner
@Machva7 ай бұрын
If i remember correctly Troy Franklin was Nix's favorite target so thats a good pickup since they'll already have chemistry
@ImShep1177 ай бұрын
Can confirm as a Ducks fan. I was praying Denver would keep this connection in the draft. Let’s goooo
@pandablade64737 ай бұрын
@@ImShep117 same, I was praying every pick they had for Troy, happy to keep them together. However, Herbert #1
@hurricanestarang7 ай бұрын
@@pandablade6473Ohhhhhhhhhh I didn't even think of this, could be a rivalry within a rivalry
@kellygama9217 ай бұрын
Lets go Brandon i mean Zach wilson. Hes good at mother loving. Could survive a courgar attack like nobodies business
@justinreinhart52147 ай бұрын
yeah Troy and Nix had great chemistry the last two years. really smart pickup here.
@slipknotnorm7 ай бұрын
“Who the fuck wants to tackle this guy” had me dying 😂
@PeenWienerstien7 ай бұрын
Guys like him xavier lagette, deebo samuel. derrick henry etc are going to TEAR the league UP since the NFL banned tackling.
@Southern2Gemini7 ай бұрын
Funny as hell!
@KhanKhanKhan50007 ай бұрын
We've come a long way from Perna ready for his spankin 2 days ago
@DirectorHatman7 ай бұрын
It starts with s but it wasn't a spanking.
@theera51457 ай бұрын
@@DirectorHatman ? is that supposed to be obvious bc there are dozens of s words
@DirectorHatman7 ай бұрын
@@theera5145 sodomy
@Ryan-wx1bi7 ай бұрын
My God... Perna has a perfect 40 step drop
@thewhitemonkey647 ай бұрын
I love the National Football Draft!!
@78LedHead7 ай бұрын
Not only does Estime look like a DE, when you watch his tape, you can tell he's having a blast. Dude's out there straight merkin fools on one play, then hurdling multiple guys on the next. You can instantly tell he loves football.
@cwrosebud7 ай бұрын
As a Notre Dame fan, I really hope Audric Estime lives up to how good he was when I've seen him play. He looked like a beast at the games I was at this year, and I think he could be great for you guys!
@dylangibbons84327 ай бұрын
Same
@ScholarlyHiccup7 ай бұрын
I love the draft man, everyone’s joyous right now. Players dreams r coming true, NFL fans accords the league feel hope, college fans are thrilled seeing their guys make the league, it’s just a happy time
@jacob11077 ай бұрын
Well, maybe not Falcons fans
@jojijoestar72337 ай бұрын
@@jacob1107And I thought Bears fans were divided about a QB
@jacob11077 ай бұрын
@@jojijoestar7233 Bears fans have QB PTSD so I get it, but at least they KNEW they would be taking a QB 😂. Falcons had to watch their team make 2 very strange decisions with their top 2 picks.
@jojijoestar72337 ай бұрын
@@jacob1107 Rumour has it that the Falcons are using Penix Jr. To test out the Hyperbolic Time Chamber they just installed
@BakingUpFootball7 ай бұрын
I'm so hyped for the Bo nix and Troy Franklin Duo
@novataco54127 ай бұрын
Damnit I’m a raiders and a ducks fan so I want to be hyped but also…
@Bill-jw3ph7 ай бұрын
I'm sorry.
@basedlord887 ай бұрын
Nix is the definition of average and Troy Franklin is a straight line speed one trick pony who caught 3 out of 26 tight window passes, frail scrawny wimp
@CCookies847 ай бұрын
@@basedlord88Hater
@eodyn77 ай бұрын
LMAO
@LiminalMan7777 ай бұрын
The zoom in on the Moustache had me in tears
@EthanKPugh03187 ай бұрын
Brandon NF because the broncos take no Ls Perna
@Tvandsleep137 ай бұрын
I knew the moment the Broncos drafted Nick Gargiulo Perna was going to have a crush on him!
@adampeer80527 ай бұрын
“It’s over for every mf that tries to play me.” Love it. I wanted this guy so bad, so hyped we got him. Time will tell but it feels like the Paytons nailed this one.
@medaelmtree15387 ай бұрын
Estime is a freaking beast. One of the best RBs to come out of ND. He certainly could be slow at times, and he could at times go east-west a lot. But when he went north-south, he was dominant. No one could tackle him
@avalanchegent55297 ай бұрын
Audric is legitimately so good
@TroyBauman7 ай бұрын
Being from Oregon and being a Duck and a Bronco my whole life, this has been the absolute best draft!
@jirikurto38597 ай бұрын
If you change your name to Rashad, your name would be Rashad Bauman.
@AOH13217 ай бұрын
KC to Denver transplant here. I’ve been loling at Perna’s pain the last couple years, but his enthusiasm right now has me feeling a little nervous about the Broncos this coming season.
@A_YouTube_Commenter7 ай бұрын
Really? That veneer is convincing you?
@saintrocketIX7 ай бұрын
2:10 I think we found Lord Taco.
@thebigdrew127 ай бұрын
Praise be to Lord Taco
@taigas77797 ай бұрын
The NF draft went crazy
@McP1mpin7 ай бұрын
Man, I'm ready to be hurt again too. I'm so hyped for the QB/WR pairing. It just seems so obvious to bring on a rookie QB's favorite WR. I don't know why it's not done more often.
@mikenaylor50597 ай бұрын
Agreed the Nix to Franklin connection is going to be awesome. I can’t wait
@DARKSABER8607 ай бұрын
I think the broncos had a pretty good draft if you ask me. I think Perna is starting to get some hope again.
@willbutler26397 ай бұрын
Which I love, the crash and burning is going to be impeccable
@A_YouTube_Commenter7 ай бұрын
@@willbutler2639 I hate to say it, but everyone usually feels confident about the draft.
@Just_Richard017 ай бұрын
T. Frank is a good player, he shouldn't disappoint
@trogdor20X67 ай бұрын
The Broncos getting JFM was very good for them, it's unfortunate that the Jets had no cap room for him. Best of luck to him in his new team!
@hangowood75217 ай бұрын
Is it weird that I don't even watch the NFL but still watch all of Brandon's videos for the banter?
@jeffridge37277 ай бұрын
Bo and Troy is such a major W
@Elnumberjuan937 ай бұрын
I’m a Bo-liever again and I haven’t even seen anything from these guys yet. Lfg. WE RIDE AND WE DIE TOGETHERRRRR.
@mrbesser1777 ай бұрын
Emphasis on die it’s looking far more probable that you go another 16 games without beating the chiefs
@kayceeyou7 ай бұрын
Enjoy ten more years of KC dominating the AFC West.
@gunnysak50947 ай бұрын
NF! New Feland!
@GorbombZombay7 ай бұрын
I’d buy a Bo Smoke Jersey & I’m a steeler fan 😂
@elscruffomcscruffy83717 ай бұрын
Better than other stupid names names Koolaid and Ha-Ha
@jandrewhearne7 ай бұрын
Until Payton does something without Brees, I’ll have my doubts. I’m a lifelong Saints fan, but I’m still sore that he cut and run after the salary cap situation got out of hand. With the Saints’ recent defensive performances, he should’ve been able to get the Saints to the playoffs in the weak NFC South had he stuck around.
@TheNatewl7777 ай бұрын
Go Ducks! I have to like the Broncos now. Hope it works out and y'all get a ring.
@markdouglas16017 ай бұрын
Tony Schaffer was raised near Detroit, went to college a couple hours from Detroit and played for the lions as well at the end of his career
@johnnym55857 ай бұрын
Ya bitch ay mic nuggets traded everyone I was pissed! But he did get us 88 and decker and Tebow and with out Tebow crazy year we got 18 rest is history lol
@danielskaluba55207 ай бұрын
Denver's hopes can't crash again unless they're able to get some altitude from this draft. Frankly, I think we are all perfectly positioned for another season of "Worst of" videos. I love this channel, and I think we're poised to get some of the best 'worst of train crash' videos over the next nine months. Buckle in! :)
@JacionBryant7 ай бұрын
As a raiders fan this is going to be fun
@CCookies847 ай бұрын
lol, Yall should not be talking with Minshew and AOC💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@KameSennin42097 ай бұрын
@@TheWackyWiggleswe'll have to see.
@Kalikus8087 ай бұрын
I agree. The 4 teams in the conference are definitely making good changes. Gonna be fun and probably heart breaking to watch.
@leo-mf227 ай бұрын
As an Oregon ducks fan, the broncos got themselves a pair of BEASTS! The Nix to Franklin connection is insane! I'm also a charger fan, but because all the ducks on your roster, I might be routing for Denver from time to time this season!
@artimusbranesample90727 ай бұрын
The fact that I NECESSARILY have to commit to buying a new jersey this year, I'm gonna go with my heart and get the Mecklenburg jersey from 1986. The Wilson.
@timknapp63887 ай бұрын
The Albino Rhino.... what a beast, wear it proud!
@Lo_Svedese7 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to come back and watch this next February.
@A_YouTube_Commenter7 ай бұрын
I think we will be talking about Zach Wilson for some reason.
@Cheezus_Crisp7 ай бұрын
NF really Brandon
@kellygama9217 ай бұрын
Zach wilsons 3 and outs are killers. Stay tune.
@seannixon89957 ай бұрын
@@kellygama921Zach Wilson won’t be starting week 1
@kellygama9217 ай бұрын
@@seannixon8995 zach wilson aint even a 3rd string Qb in the NFL. But according to social media a good mother lover. Can survive courgar attacks with the best of them.
@kellygama9217 ай бұрын
@@seannixon8995 Denver hooked up the Jets he probably showed up to denver with his girlfriends mother . He cant play Qb but he got game with the cougars.
@kellygama9217 ай бұрын
@@Randallwolfshield did the morman boy report to denver with somebody's mother . He does love them courgars.
@Debizzle7 ай бұрын
I love these clips of Perna really getting in his bag and showing us he can handle the rock. The high elbows, the quick feet, the pocket presence. Flawless dropback.
@burningglory23737 ай бұрын
Not even a broncos fan, with that guy though, BRONCO COUNTRY LETS RUN!
@derekladuca26247 ай бұрын
That nick Garguilo bit had me rolling, but I whole heartedly agree
@isaigutierrez16177 ай бұрын
The Broncos ride is so bumpy that it got Perna bumping Christian Hip Hop 😂😂😂😂
@thomasdeas19417 ай бұрын
lol
@pompelmostique7 ай бұрын
😂 Denver's Jesus scene is hot right now
@BloodInkFilms7 ай бұрын
Estimé is the new Marshawn Lynch. Watch him play. He's going to tear shit up. Not a lot of RBs built like him with Derrick Henry getting over the hill now. He simply doesn't go down on first touches and he's actually got some pretty solid acceleration and really great catching abilities. His one hand catch against Navy was insane. This feels like a Mike Alstott/Warrick Dunn situation with Estimé/Williams.
@nicklockwood37927 ай бұрын
You throwing the football made my day. Hilarious
@FavineMoore7 ай бұрын
Man... I hope Troy and Bo have a fun time in Denver.
@joshshepherd56607 ай бұрын
Man...im tellin you. Bo nix is a competitor. Like I said in the draft day video comment, he did some things I have NEVER seen an Oregon quarterback do. The biggest thing that stood out; for the first time in the 25 YEARS I have watched Oregon football...in this last season I saw the whole team, play to their abilities, not their opponents! In the games that didnt matter because of the opponents, they stayed consistent and didnt go to sleep. Bo is a LEADER. He is going to come in and do the things that a LEADER SHOULD. We will all find out pretty quick if Bo will be a victim of the college to NFL switch, which any more seems like a 50/50 toss up no matter who it is lol. If he plays like I have seen him capable of...Drew Brees is an Extremely accurate comp and Sean Payton has himself A DUDE.
@ryanwills-377 ай бұрын
too bad Zach Wilson will be the starter
@joshshepherd56607 ай бұрын
@ryanwills-37 As bad as Zach Wilson has been so far, it's still not impossible lol like I said, it seems like a 50/50 chance, at best, that a guy making the jump from college to NFL will actually pan out and be the player we all think they are. The two guys are very close in age. Wilson absolutely has a better arm. The experience in the league so far can't count for nothing. One reality that is relevant; Sean Peyton just took a Qb in round 1 of the draft. He traded a 6th round pick for Zach Wilson. That is to say, there will be some pressure to get Bo in there. We shall see but I am cautiously optimistic about Bo being a day one starter, and slightly more confident that he will take over as the guy, some time within the first year. I'm excited to find out!
@mikenaylor50597 ай бұрын
Damn! I love your show!! So entertaining, funny and in most cases spot on takes! Thanks so much!!
@youngsquad38687 ай бұрын
Falcons took the L out this title🤣🤣
@mysteriousviper87 ай бұрын
Tony Sheffler's pick was amazing. And having his kid come out with him was awesome. The way he handled it and called out was perfect as a fan and a former bronco.
@howardmaxi27377 ай бұрын
Had to replay the new intro thrice because I couldn't stop laughing about Perna hitting his balls with a ball.
@jizzlemcskizzle30767 ай бұрын
Perna goes so hard for the b roll footage. Thank you Brandon 🙏🏼
@SkateBake4Life7 ай бұрын
They drafted NF?! Not sure about his size but I’m willing to see it out
@Continuada7 ай бұрын
Great, great, great video my dude! Gaaaah so lucky you're a Broncos fan! Appreciate all you do man!
@daritsalgado87027 ай бұрын
Nf....good artist. Nice music
@Fawnarix7 ай бұрын
As an Oregon fan this is going to be interesting to watch.
@tortle2857 ай бұрын
NEW INTRO?
@brodebrode7 ай бұрын
2:35 “Uncle Rico” vibes and I’m loving it 😂😂
@Bilal_Aslam_7 ай бұрын
Good enough that we may not see another “NEW Worst Game Ever” video this season
@joshuathompson33257 ай бұрын
Urinating tree will cover it when Russell Wilson is playing for the Steelers
@joshuathompson33257 ай бұрын
Seem depressing games they will just be on a different channel. Maybe Perna can tag him in this comment
@Spamual27 ай бұрын
I personally don’t want nix to start right away, he doesn’t need to get injured and his career to go off the rails, I say stick with stidham and use Zach and let bo sit at least one year
@kahlsteele53257 ай бұрын
NF draft because the Broncos bring the L
@Dickgozinya6637 ай бұрын
I like Nix ..and I’m a Washington fan😃
@juanahedo51667 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the new worst game episode featuring qb1 Benjamin button
@Jaxman177 ай бұрын
have followed on twitter for years and never caught one of these. Talented and entertaining good sir *tips cap*
@shawncontreras7 ай бұрын
Okay...I fell upon this channel and now am a lifelong subscriber...go Nix and Franklin
@michaelstagg6647 ай бұрын
love to see you getting your hopes up again because i think there are deeper lows to be seen for the broncos and I am here for that.
@ghostofyou97217 ай бұрын
I'm so glad the Bears addressed the offense in getting Rome Odunze---Grossi's reaction is brilliant.
@TheJstroud247 ай бұрын
Troy Franklin was an absolute steal for a 4th round selection. He put up insane numbers this year. For having a QB who threw a lot of short passes, he sure averages a lot per catch
@cowboy675017 ай бұрын
I miss the old opening title music that had the bowling pins sound at the end!
@iculqqkn57687 ай бұрын
For comedic value and to display my full disregard for your mental stability, I'm hoping Bo Nix and Troy Franklin pairing works out just as sweet as the Mason Rudolph and James Washington College to Pro Duo from OSU to Pittsburgh
@aaronholmes84907 ай бұрын
Love this new video style with the editing, it's really dope!
@mattbaldwin85247 ай бұрын
As a Mizzou and Denver guy, don't sleep on KAD! Excited to see him as a Bronco.
@michaelpowell73487 ай бұрын
Broncos need to show appreciation for Sutton's output and dedication amongst all of the horrendous seasons in Denver. PAY THE MAN and lets go win!!
@sketchypeoplepdx7 ай бұрын
This Oregonian Bronco fan is so pumped for this season!!!! Broncos!
@sreal17 ай бұрын
Perna on point with the one liners per usual bahahaha 😂😂😂 Loving this draft class. Very solid. And trading for JFM was a steal!! Regardless of how you feel about our draft class you cannot deny that we got better!! And I said this before and I’ll say it again. We’re gonna be a lot better than what the “experts” are saying we are 💯‼️
@Rosko3117 ай бұрын
Interesting fact, Bo Nix has bled Orange & Blue his whole life. Bo's dad played at Auburn, & in 2019 Bo was the 1st freshman @ Auburn to start a season at QB since 1946, & would go on to be awarded SEC freshman of the Year. His 1st game at Auburn, he threw a walk-off TD pass with 9 sec remaining to secure the W against Oregon. Bo is truly an amazing athlete & was 1 of Auburn's leading rushers, & also has great accuracy. In his 3rd season at Auburn Bo set a school record with 256 consecutive passes without an Int, beating his own previous school record of 250. I believe Bo is the 2nd or 3rd best QB in this draft & if the Broncos O Line can protect him & keep him healthy, then the Broncos have found their Franchise QB.
@mrbilly99177 ай бұрын
Love your commentary. You have a spine, and you're not afraid to let your team know what's up. I'm a packers fan and I have to say the GB content creators are just yes fans and it drives me crazy. If the GM is poo poo then just say it. Hold the M'er F'ers accountable. Don't you ever change
@tianascheurman29657 ай бұрын
I've been on the fence about becoming a two team fan for a while. This draft, as an Oregon fan, pushed me over the edge.
@camballay24377 ай бұрын
This is the best sports show in media today, i fucking love you man
@raymondplieth99527 ай бұрын
If I’m Bo nix where else did I wanna go? I think the broncos have a good set up.
@alex-07-10-y1s7 ай бұрын
“You want your quarterback to think they are God, not pray to one.” Best sports commentator ever. You’re the GOAT Brandon Perna.
@bigideasthescholar7 ай бұрын
The downward dog joke is a straight up Norm MacDonald joke. I love it.
@gabrielbernabe91527 ай бұрын
Steeler fan but life long duck fan, Denver is my second rooting team this year good luck.
@acidwizard65287 ай бұрын
I'm surprised Troy Franklin got overlooked until the 4th round. Teams were picking lesser WRs over him in round 2-3. I think he'll be a solid pro.
@christopherkwiatkowski31167 ай бұрын
I have been a Steelers fan for 46 of my 50 years of age, but the combination of this channel and the selection of Bo Nix in the draft is making me re-think my loyalties.
@DestinW7 ай бұрын
1:29 Stink Retweeting the Russ Lets Ride Tweet had me dying laughing
@CDLMgolions7 ай бұрын
When Goff was reunited with Reynolds on the Lions, they played great together! Not the same connection you were talking about, but thought it was a good similarity. :)
@debbaedke31707 ай бұрын
A QB-WR combo AND a "Derrick Henry" clone? Bring on the 2024 season! 😊
@Anaxel7 ай бұрын
Great recap Perna. I also thought the same thing when it came to the QB and bible versus everywhere, but I think Bo is going to be good (I pray)
@BaldLongfellow7 ай бұрын
Love the second part of the revised intro; the 2,000 step dropback is lol good stuff.
@krizzyiii81977 ай бұрын
I’m not even a broncos fan but yall COOKED in the draft
@Theonefortnitearmyguy7 ай бұрын
As a Oregon fan Bo is a good pick, he may not be a break out star right away or he could be , but guy has a good arm and better accuracy in the draft compared to other qbs
@timcarr717 ай бұрын
Damn now I have hope for denver,starting to be a fan myself
@chef20427 ай бұрын
Oregon fan here: Bo Nix fits Sean Payton to a tee. They can find success together. Be patient for a year or 2 and let them build around him.