How GOOD is Your Class in Season 4 PvP?

[@skillcappedwowpvp]

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[@adammark6233]

The fact that they didn’t even re color the season 3 sets for this is CRAZZZZYYYY lmao

[@ZahryD]

*lazy

[@drpzor]

They didn't do that in SL s4 either

[@SicariusGaming87]

@@drpzor They havent done it in the past so why would they now?

[@TheJahool]

So PVE players are once again deciding what we use in PVP? sick game.

[@Shannendetro]

No, blizzard is deciding. Stop making this about other players… they could have easily let there be 2 picks and or having a dedicated pvp set like xpacs past.

[@roo2127]

@@Shannendetro Agreed. There should have been a choice for each content. Lazy.

[@TheJahool]

@@Shannendetro if playerbase voted on this and most of them voted for what benefits pve the most... pve players are deciding.. hurr durr

[@tgs5725]

Oh no, the 10k people who PvP get screwed

[@Shannendetro]

@@TheJahool It was blizzard choice in the first place to not have 2 votes.... What do you not understand. This is blizzard, not players. Always has been, always will be. You are taking away the blame from people who can actually make change, and yelling at those who can do nothing but vote in the way that benefits them, just as you did. blizzard controls what happens. As i said, it doesnt need to be 1 set, it could have easily been 2 different sets, one pve and 1 pvp... And yet blizzard left the pvp fucked... they know the metrics, they know pve would dominate the vote, AND YET BLIZZARD DID NOTHING!

[@matthewmurphy1882]

Excited for spriest to have a space bar/jump damage increase :-p

[@lostheboss7938]

Im sure all 500 players are excited for S4

[@nickgman3592]

What do you mean 500? Like top 500?

[@AnnaNishikinomiya-vh8ps]

500? thats way too much LOL

[@Matthew-vw6gy]

@@Sypher-NLgood, go play an FPS

[@mythiccx7434]

@@Sypher-NLno it’s not you’re just dumb

[@scottperkins2380]

It’s funny to imagine how excited you were to post this on a channel that only does wow pvp videos. You showed them.

[@GrotesqueN]

Ferals dont use 4 set anymore. This 5% dmg increase that Feral Frenzy gives you falls flat to the permanent 3% versatility gain from simply playing without the 4 - set bonus. We will probably play 4- set during the first month until engineering helm and bracers are available though.

[@piotrzapotoczny5703]

What about item level increase and stats increase? Won't this have bigger impact or the same as tier sets? Not every class/spec scales the same with stats. For primary stat or vers they will scale more or less the same since it's just a flat damage/healing increase. But things are different with haste since it interacts a bit different with various specs, especially meele vs casters. Things are even more different with mastery which is unique for each spec. Secondary stats diminishing returns will also play bigger role in s4. We can expect some unpredictable changes at the beginning of the season, as specs which scale better with stats will benefit more from item level increase, so some tuning will probably be needed early in the season.

[@joshuaking5564]

Where were we able to see the WWMonks will be getting season 1 over season 2? I ask since it appears the votes were tied so just want to make sure so I can plan on what to main

[@DoGhrism]

Only legendaries are upgradable ? Can we not make the choice of the set ourselves ? Having that choice would allow us to have different specs and gameplay depending on comps not just a choice on 1 pvp talent point and 2 or 3 regular talent points ( that doesn't imply that it would make the game more fun but at least it would offer more diversity)

[@alexjansengaming2382]

They should change the survival hunter’s mastery to having leech instead heal % per 5 seconds. That way they survive by doing damage

[@smithical100]

People hated shadowlands but I liked that one patch when fury necrolord was strong... maybe in 2 or 3 xpacs it will happen again.

[@alebaler]

Think arms warrior with Fyralath will be good for 2v2 or 3v3? want to stop pve and go 100% pvp with warrior

[@AD690smcr]

Im going to contribute to the solution rather than whinge about problems. I will be healing in pvp S4. If you like playing dps, pres evoker is a really engaging spec and dmg is important

[@JeRkRevolution]

fistweaver also fun for ppl who like dps

[@KiRa-fy6uq]

Yeah I'll try healing too sometimes. And if someone gives me attitude, I just won't heal them

[@agito33]

Is it possible to turn on subtitles in another language on your "skill-capped" site like you can on KZbin?

[@cerginhopereiranunes]

no

[@clarkandrews3535]

im a 2800 xp mglad (healer) and i came back to try solo shuffle after two years, you ask why there is no healers in shuffle? low mmr dps are impossible to play with people under 2k literally run it down. The game isn't fun when my warlock is kiting me instead of the dh.

[@Seamoooon]

the worst is that you just have to defeat the enemy healer, however a lot of times its 3-3 on 1.5k rating with 2k+ experienced healers :S

[@clarkandrews3535]

Update: I swapped to dps, where are all the healers?

[@Seamoooon]

@@clarkandrews3535 not playing soloQ :D

[@JohnLee-fd9ht]

How to obtain elite PVP illusion in WOW 10.0 I obtained the Conquer Set from the NPC, but I want the illusion of elite PVP equipment, which looks cooler. I didn't find a way

[@fizzybeard7291]

Im thinking about coming back to wow right now and im im looking for a class that hooks me this time. Played Paladin last time, and while it was fun it didnt hook me really. I want only one class, dont like playing alts besides leveling them up. Hows druid in that regard? I enjoy both pvp and pve and i like healing. My other choice would be hunter but id miss the healing but would get the pet collecting. Id lose the mounts and transomgs as a druid i guess.

[@theMasch1na]

hunter pet collecting is cool until you realize you need mortal wounds in PvP so you will be heavily limited in what pet you gonna play, but you will get to keep mounts and transmogs... druid is really versatile and you can do anything you want dmg, heal, pvp, pve, but your xmogs will suffer

[@Seb7an]

@@theMasch1na Bullshit. I play hunter without pet since it's possible and I am destroying everything in every bg.

[@grantx6]

​@@Seb7anright. In every BG. But are you destroying things in arena or solo shuffle, with no root remove? No pet stun? No crit resist? bgs and arena are very different games my friend

[@Earthfurry717]

5:10 Crit % Isn't higher, the critical heals just heal more. With the current meta, BoP isn't going to stick. We heal more but BoP is not useless again more or less. I don't think this is an upgrade...

[@anannoyedpanda]

Wait what the fuck. No one voted for that season 2 fury set. It's considered our worst one. What the absolute fuck.

[@PhenomRom]

I voted for it

[@jinovasart9357]

Every warrior I know voted for it. All four of them.

[@svsv1191]

pve prob

[@alexleonhappytraining474]

TBH I think season 2 fury set is better than the season 1 set. But the key issue for fury spec right now is not tier set but the general tuning of damage. Before they change the fact that fury hits like a noodle, none of the tier set bonuses can save fury from the current shithole.

[@sinnis4993]

literally every pve warrior voted for it. s3 was the worst.

[@skarnexonline4446]

i thought ret pala ran with 0 set recently and like 43+ vers

[@dimitrijansen9872]

2 set.

[@gregdesandro9484]

Usually 2 set but full vers isn't too bad either

[@megaplymega6678]

As an sp main and destro main. I can say I will not be playing until next x-pac since they killed both classes I play.

[@bingusbongus968]

Also like why fuck over any caster specs in a predominantly melee meta lmao

[@estebanslavidastic4382]

Yeah just reroll melee at this point. I leveled a WW monk and it’s stupid how much easier the game is compared to fire mage/afflock which is what I played before

[@Shannendetro]

@@bingusbongus968 Because blizzard is fucking dumb and only let there be 1 vote instead of splitting it to a pve and pvp.... Blizzard KNOWS the game is pve favored and yet let the pvp players get fucked... I see others blaming people for voting on the "wrong" set. Instead of blaming blizzard for their laziness in only putting out 1 overall vote. My 1 hope is that with netease allow wow back into china and china having a very high pvp player base, they will soon change, but i doubt it.

[@petersirota5124]

Destro is best caster rn, wtf u talking about? XD This 1600expl shttalk make me laugh so loud

[@megaplymega6678]

@@petersirota5124 sorry you ride the short bus kid. Hope you can comprehend the comment but looks like you can’t. Read the title buddy season 4 😂

[@jamie2015]

Why ele shaman isn't ranked why many arnt ranked terrible list bru

[@PanicoMight]

So... The best healer got buffed. Nice.

[@Mrree250]

And they nerfed resto sham xD the jokes write themselves

[@asmrnick9379]

@@Mrree250 resto sham is broken atm?

[@ivartheberserker9918]

Yay ret pally has a garbage tier set for another season

[@r-ex2945]

This. Its like blizzard loves fucking ret

[@r-ex2945]

Is the ret tier fixed? If not fuck the 4 set...

[@gregdesandro9484]

How is it broken?

[@purplehaze9532]

i was watching this video for 30sec before i realised i might as well check a video of the last 3 seasons since its the same in s4 :)

[@hiroki_rinn]

Oh, World of Meleecraft.

[@AlexanderrJay]

So can I come back to the game and not get nuked anymore? Or is it the same?

[@MuDkipzCHancelLOr]

It’s pretty slow for the norm in this game but a few people still find it too bursts. I don’t think it was ever too bursty this expansion, I just think healing wasn’t bursty.

[@danielsmith2483]

​@@MuDkipzCHancelLOrpretty sure it's the highest burst X-Pac ever in wow?

[@Truestoryschannel]

@@danielsmith2483 u didnt play SL especially s1 then

[@pepelechad536]

@@danielsmith2483 no. not even remotely close. this is about one of the slowest metas in a long time

[@akpade]

@@danielsmith2483Wtf are u on bro ? U played SL ? Or even BFA ? Gtfo of here

[@gadget_hack]

Wait I thought arms warriors were keeping season 3 set

[@stathisgyzipaulaner8860]

Ye me too. Wtf is happening

[@Ghostsfood]

Right??? Did something change last minute?

[@bigbobam8857]

At the time supa tease made his video season 3 was winning, but the voting stayed open until reset day this week and EU voters pushed season 1 over season 3. the choice of what tier was a collection of both region's voting. Roughly 1k EU voters pushed season 1 up in the last two days lol

[@Ghostsfood]

@@bigbobam8857 damn

[@bigbigu8671]

Pvp is so bursty with all these modifiers and tier set, maybe blizz should think to bring back old pvp style set, would help reduce the damage a bit

[@DethrowDestruction]

no we don't need stats on pvp gear to reduce damage (e.g resilience) we just need tuning overall

[@Ralpo.]

@@DethrowDestruction i don't think he was asking for resill, more likely less damage modifiers and just plain damage. Watch classic damage, it's most linear with crits and 1 burst cd

[@DethrowDestruction]

@@Ralpo. Yeah possibly, I don't think it's about the set though, there's so many modifiers in talents and micro cc is terrible

[@Ralpo.]

@@DethrowDestruction exactly. Too many modifiers. Cast a fire bolt on wotlk and one on retail, without any modifiers, the damage will be the same, just that in retail you have 1 mil hp and on wrath you have 25k

[@Sumoboi1]

PVP is not that bursty anymore with the trinket nerfs and the stam buffs. if u wanna see bursty go watch wrath 3s

[@CalmingWhisper1]

Holy paladins critical strike chance is not increasing. That doesn't mean more infusion of light procs, it means bigger holy shocks but that's it

[@DH-ht9pl]

It is increasing and it does mean more infusion procs

[@CalmingWhisper1]

@@DH-ht9pl read the tooltip, crit is not increasing, crit amount is increasing

[@joaocaju3061]

Isn't Crit Chance increasing due to higher ilvls in S4?

[@DH-ht9pl]

@@CalmingWhisper1 re

[@Shannendetro]

@@joaocaju3061 Yes, but thats not the point.

[@xxboxofmuffinsxx4252]

Ayy surv hunter playing aspect of the eagle

[@Minorheadlines]

since the talk about Addons and UIs I cant help but see how cluttered those UIs are now -- they truely look horrible

[@Yippaah]

Yeay!! So melee got even stronger except mage as only caster got buffed some

[@trizzlehizzle9068]

just ignoring moonkin entirely?

[@Kanoog]

Boomkin players must be blowing the developers to stay in S tier for nearly a year.

[@Uploaded1995]

Ah yes, Devoker climbs out of the lower end of the tier list bracket for one season and then immediately gets clapped back again. Nice.

[@river9118]

Why? Why do I have to be a NASA scientist to play feral? Kicks, knock backs, grounding, meld, fade, and stuns, all because my spec is based off of clones.

[@zachariaswinge4846]

So real man, it’s so annoying

[@lunaestarcaller1423]

True. I HATE that playstyle. What am I? A caster? I hope it will get removed, or reworked. Being one the the squishiest meele wasn't enough, now we are constantly the main kill target because of cyclones...

[@ActrixTheTank]

Just get good

[@JustinPartlow-m6z]

​@ActrixTheTank do you have a cat and a dog ? If so how many times have you personally seen your cat cyclone your dog? Let me know

[@dc1214]

You have a small taste of the current caster experience XD

[@gregoireboucher4314]

No changes for 2/3 + of their classes in pvp. Nice job Blizzard sounds like a fun upcoming 9 months

[@trizzlehizzle9068]

it was picked by the playerbase. why even comment if youre this ignorant?

[@bingusbongus968]

​@@trizzlehizzle9068it was chosen by the pve players

[@trizzlehizzle9068]

@@bingusbongus968 was chosen by anyone who wanted to vote.

[@bingusbongus968]

​@trizzlehizzle9068 I mean, the majority of the players are pve players.

[@gregoireboucher4314]

@@trizzlehizzle9068 the fact that 2/3 are not even touched and that most people are gonna be worst comes from the pve players.. not ignorance, just stating the obvious.

[@Stoplightcircus]

Thanks skill capped for helping me gain 0 rating

[@shampooboy685]

No destro ?

[@Supersmartandfunnyguy]

6:50

[@bi0lizard1]

Time to throw my Dev evoker back into the trash can.

[@Sleepgodx]

I've played Dev evoker all expansion and I'm heartbroken we aren't getting bloodlust procs from season 1.. Blizz did a horrible job letting people know there was voting going on

[@trivial50]

the best pve sets would have won anyway, even if every pvp player voted

[@chrisofblades5167]

Fuuuu... sub is keeping the stupid s3 set... F blizz

[@brewtank6738]

Spoiler alert, rogues will be good in s4

[@ELMUERTES]

yes?

[@LastTryMedia]

Bicmex must get so mad whenever he hears his name mispronounced, which is almost always.

[@blankidfan]

yay SP sucks again!

[@timmyhartmann6188]

😂 GN8, World of Warcraft 😂

[@LiniFox]

Cata hype tho

[@ricardolionheart4920]

SO sad about the state of PvP in general.bli$$ has forsaken us...

[@UnHoLyHooLiGaN]

fix pvp please

[@PeterTheDeleter]

Pvp is dead yall gotta move on to other games

[@ironsideeve2955]

So rogue sux again.... Great

[@eloniewordan8890]

Valorant is very fun

[@FCBcubano]

as an elite main druid boomy wont be top teir...we have no defensive and we take a while to set up a burst window as unlike other casters

[@Steevvee]

You have no defensives? Try playing mm hunter.

[@FCBcubano]

@@Steevvee yeah hunters man poor hunters

[@Jamescschwenk]

Boomy is the most played ranged class In the top 500 rated 3s players ?

[@sinnis4993]

cant be elite if you write such nonsense.

[@pepelechad536]

was your elite in s1 solo shuffle? if so, it doesnt count

[@themobster7284]

I stopped playing my Frost DK, since it has been garbage ever since BFA, and was weak after WOD, as in legion it had no healing... But i got tired AF to need to OUTplay everyone, and the broke ass classes i cant outplay.. These days everything is anti class to DK even to Blood DK, and that is BS af, as Blood DK used to be tanky af back in cata and MOP and WOD... Now after the plate pvp nerf, DKs are not even paper, is disgusting... F that game..

[@dimitrijansen9872]

It had a decent moment in rbgs during sl. Real shame cause its the only dk spec I enjoy.

[@themobster7284]

@@dimitrijansen9872 Not for me tho... I find the DF better, only problem is, i had much fun in the start of DF, when i did gear faster then others, and trashed them... But did not take much time for them to gear too, then i saw how weak the spec/ class is... The only thing i liked in SL was that they did bring back Frost DK burst, that was not a thing back in BFA... But overall sadly the state of DKs as a class is pathetic, UH is a bit stronger die to necrotic + the leech they get from it... I did find that even Blood DK is much more durable then both DPS spec in pvp, but sadly is also very weak compared to other tank specs, that seem way stronger like prot gaeladin, that just trash u, no matter u both are tanks... It is so sad, UH is pet spec, that is disgusting for me to play, Frost is a meme, and Blood is Tank.. And on top of all that even the shared class spells are BAD and weak, like AMS did become so weak after Legion, and after BFA that shield is not shield at all, i can barely stay active for more then 2-3 sec vs single class, that has tons of magical dmg. That was not the case back in WOD, where with glyph i did stay in AMS and felt like forever.. Also DS did heal back in WOD and it was a thing, these days only dark succor do heal, but in order to get this u need to land a kill, and that hardly happen in 1v1... And dont let me even start on DK presences, they were crucial back in the day, and was so helpful, and did rise the skill level as well... Sadly last time i did feel really powerful as Frost DK was WOD, DK back then was menace and a horror.. Then it did came Legion, and Frost did play like ARMs warrior, had lots of dmg, but very limited healing but was fine.. So last time Frost DK was real fun was WOD, and fine Legion, and UH was very op back in BFA up to 8.2, after that UH is also garbage, but Frost even more so... After the recent plate armor nerfs i stopped playing, it just does not make any sense, and i refuse to be free kill for scumbags, that just have their classes overtuned, while DKs are bottom trash, that need pocket healer, or some insane OUTplay in order to kill 1v1 someone that actually know how to play, it is disgusting, and i got tired too... If Blizzard dont fix DKs and mostly Frost in TWW, i hope they will bankrupt...

[@Miridafeo]

Not sure why blizz let pve voters determine what us rets get for tier sets next season.... 😑🤔🫤