How GOOD was Cryogonal ACTUALLY? - History of Cryogonal in Competitive Pokemon

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@FalseSwipeGaming
@FalseSwipeGaming Жыл бұрын
Whoops! Error in the Gen 9 set. Cryogonal doesn't get Toxic anymore
@markerthemark
@markerthemark Жыл бұрын
I wish that gen 9 didn't just up in get rid of toxic for most mons.
@GWFanSoftcoreBrony
@GWFanSoftcoreBrony Жыл бұрын
Not really much of an error when they eventually will allow Pokemon Home to bring old movesets back again (supposedly sometime in the spring). I'm sure Blissey falling all the way to RU for the first time ever will reverse once it gets Teleport back.
@LegendStormcrow
@LegendStormcrow Жыл бұрын
Solar Beam makes sense as crystals refract and focus light. Same with Flash Cannon. Got nothing for Poison Jab though.
@owensmith7642
@owensmith7642 Жыл бұрын
@@GWFanSoftcoreBrony moves get reset when bringing them through home now so they won't get it back
@mehdihabibi9400
@mehdihabibi9400 Жыл бұрын
home support be like: bounjour
@gliddens24
@gliddens24 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the Solar Beam and Flash Cannon explanations root from the fact that even if Cryogonal is a snowflake, it also kinda resembles a mirror. So the attacks may just be Cryogonal reflecting light, getting more of the "solar" and "flash" parts of the attack. Night Slash could be because its edges could be really sharp? SO it spins like a top and cuts you. As for poison jab... yeah, I have no clue about that one XD
@JT-fq2bl
@JT-fq2bl Жыл бұрын
Poison Jab is due to snow not being pure. Go outside with a glass cup and scoop some so-called clean snow, put it in the microwave, and watch the results. I ganrutee you will not be sticking your tongue out to catch snow ever again.
@Cool-Vest
@Cool-Vest Жыл бұрын
But how do you explain attract? Sure, it's pretty, but it has no gender so it always fails. They probably didn't think through the design process of a snowflake that much.
@peet-janissen5838
@peet-janissen5838 Жыл бұрын
yellow snow? so poison jab?
@andreivaldez2929
@andreivaldez2929 Жыл бұрын
Cryogonal uses its toxic personality to insult the opponent before punchig them to perform Poison Jab.
@MakoShiruba
@MakoShiruba Жыл бұрын
@@Cool-Vest It's a Mirror, so it "Attracts" people using it's reflection. Kinda how some people would "Kiss their mirror, if they could"
@whomgod420
@whomgod420 Жыл бұрын
Man I was actually just thinking about this guy yesterday and how weirdly decent he's always been despite being a defensive ice type
@anonymouskaiju9101
@anonymouskaiju9101 Жыл бұрын
turns out given an ice type an actually okay speed stat helps a lot
@MakoShiruba
@MakoShiruba Жыл бұрын
Healing Move with a Great Speed and a super minmaxed statline with a great ability and decent moveset goes a long way
@breloommaster12
@breloommaster12 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, as long as an Ice-type has a good speed stat, it doesn't matter if they cannot hit hard if they can still do what they need to do (like Froslass and Alolan Ninetales)
@Direblade11
@Direblade11 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, FSG is a decent guy. :^)
@galvsparks6295
@galvsparks6295 Жыл бұрын
@@breloommaster12 and cryogonal still hits quite decently harder than both of these
@jalapenobug
@jalapenobug Жыл бұрын
The +10 HP and +20 Defense stat buffs in Gen 7 also helped (even if its defense stat is still pathetic)
@LeDave257
@LeDave257 Жыл бұрын
I think it should have at least 70 def
@cuttlefish6839
@cuttlefish6839 Жыл бұрын
@@LeDave257 sure but snow also gives it a def boost if I keeps its ice typing and it can always Terra to steel with stab flash cannon so idk if it needs it. After playing a couple months of gen 9 I got to day Terran are way better than I thought best mechanic since dynomax imo
@Eroil
@Eroil Жыл бұрын
@@cuttlefish6839 best mechanic since dynamax is funny
@beebobber546
@beebobber546 Жыл бұрын
I always get slightly bummed out when he doesn’t mention stat buffs, as small as some may be
@Avghistorian77
@Avghistorian77 Жыл бұрын
That +20 should’ve gone to special attack.
@rixrobin
@rixrobin Жыл бұрын
This thing was super broken on showdown for like a week because it was the only mon that learned aurora veil, light screen, and reflect and it was coded incorrectly on showdown so they stacked. They fixed it pretty quickly but it was great for that short period of time.
@shadowmetroid18
@shadowmetroid18 Жыл бұрын
Surprising that cryogonal is one of the pokemon that has managed to not miss a generation so far with dexit
@CMSonYT
@CMSonYT Жыл бұрын
GOTTA keep those important pokemon in
@andersolson44
@andersolson44 Жыл бұрын
I mean every region needs snow, right?
@noahtaylor1721
@noahtaylor1721 Жыл бұрын
@@andersolson44I guess sinnoh doesn’t need snow then.
@momsforseti318
@momsforseti318 Жыл бұрын
@@noahtaylor1721 Yea but I've never seen any snow over there
@noahtaylor1721
@noahtaylor1721 Жыл бұрын
@@momsforseti318 I forgot that sinnoh doesn’t have snow, only hail.
@ThisAintGood.
@ThisAintGood. Жыл бұрын
This guy was the reason I won against Zygarde in DAs, I don’t care how good he is, he’s Uber in my heart
@KrimzonKasper
@KrimzonKasper Жыл бұрын
Tell me more about it :0 I’m curious to know your Cryogonal stats and nature. Movesets too
@bananatassium7009
@bananatassium7009 Жыл бұрын
what are DAs?
@scoutsilver3349
@scoutsilver3349 Жыл бұрын
Dynamx Adventurers
@ThisAintGood.
@ThisAintGood. Жыл бұрын
@@KrimzonKasper They’re set when you pick it, it just so happens that Cryo has a really good set movepool and stats
@NightSkyNyx
@NightSkyNyx Жыл бұрын
Shiny hunting for legendaries in the Dynamax Adventures has given me newfound appreciation for Pokémon I otherwise were neutral towards or didn’t think too highly of. Comfey, Togedamaru, Qwilfish, and of course Cryogonal being Pokémon that I now majorly respect because of how instrumental they have been in my various legendary shiny hunts lmao (Sigilyph as well, but I actually always liked Sigilyph from the start lol)
@evanmclaughlin7988
@evanmclaughlin7988 Жыл бұрын
i liked that his stats ended up getting better with +20 defense and +10 HP
@LionsEatNoobs
@LionsEatNoobs Жыл бұрын
This is what I love about this channel. I always learn about how Pokemon that I never used before can really do. Mind you, I'm not a competitive battler, but these videos give me a new appreciation for some of these underrated Pokemon
@cheruledge
@cheruledge Жыл бұрын
Minor mistake in the SV section, Cryogonal doesn’t actually get Toxic this gen, so it runs Chilling Water instead. Great video anyway. It surprised me how it could be used in SM PU
@adva1282
@adva1282 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone mentions that fact, I've been looking for this comment
@prof.pick1es283
@prof.pick1es283 Жыл бұрын
Thaught he ment it was immune to toxic cause steel
@Jzwiz
@Jzwiz Жыл бұрын
@@prof.pick1es283 nah they list the 4 moves used at the bottom and toxic was listed on accident
@deltalord6969
@deltalord6969 Жыл бұрын
I once had a dream where I was playing Pokémon black and cryogonal evolved from a snowflake into a mega huge snowflake. Still waiting for it to happen.
@grrumakemeangry
@grrumakemeangry Жыл бұрын
lol
@RazorIvy470
@RazorIvy470 Жыл бұрын
Your dream predicted gigantamax. Just the wrong pokemon.
@90091
@90091 Жыл бұрын
There is one is a fangame where it's ability is Sleet. Its hail on steroids where a pokemon will lose 20% of their hp if they are not immume to hail. Would be so fun if they added this to the main game.
@ordinaryman27
@ordinaryman27 Жыл бұрын
They'll probably pull a Moushold and add more original for it's evo
@aikou2886
@aikou2886 Жыл бұрын
I wish it evolved into an ice sculpture or something like that.
@misirtere9836
@misirtere9836 Жыл бұрын
Cryogonal getting Solar Beam is actually based on interesting trivia about real snow. Snow is actually really good at reflecting light, so much so that it can be blindingly bright under the right circumstances. Sounds like a solar beam to me.
@skeetermania3202
@skeetermania3202 Жыл бұрын
Also if you look outside when it’s Sunny and snow is on the ground, the sun shines much brighter than usually.
@ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions
@ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions Жыл бұрын
I've heard if you're not careful, you could receive sunburns on your face climbing tall snowy mountains!
@TheTimeMage
@TheTimeMage Жыл бұрын
wouldnt mirror shot make more sense?
@WolfKnightLukos
@WolfKnightLukos Жыл бұрын
@@TheTimeMage It be more focused on the snow and ice albedo, which is an object's ability to reflect light.
@ordinaryman27
@ordinaryman27 Жыл бұрын
What about poison jab?
@golemofwill4728
@golemofwill4728 Жыл бұрын
A fast special wall is very unique. Shame this thing is always so hard to find in games. It's a very solid mon. Tera types and fixing ice types is gonna be very fun to see in the evolving meta, especially for avalugg.
@misael960
@misael960 Жыл бұрын
The only other fast special wall that I record is Tentacruel . And maybe Latias , but she is an legendary so I don't think it counts.
@TheMirksta
@TheMirksta Жыл бұрын
@@misael960 There's Nihilego, Scream Tail, Flutter mane that are fast high SPDEF mons, also if you count it stuff like Torn T and Mienshao who are both fast and work well with AV. Tapu Fini is pretty fast for a mon that bulky too, though not quite at the same level
@Eroil
@Eroil Жыл бұрын
Very solid mon in ZU maybe lol. With tera it has a good chance but I see no hope for avalugg with that speed and spdef
@jmurray1110
@jmurray1110 Жыл бұрын
By hard I can only assume you mean late
@worldiefeard8396
@worldiefeard8396 Жыл бұрын
But hey, for what matters, in SV it's all over the place on the mountain. Then again, no pokemon is really rare in first place in SV i suppose ^^"
@frankinglese7100
@frankinglese7100 Жыл бұрын
I used to call it “Giant Metal Snowflake” and still do sometimes. Also, it was one of the few Pokémon that was an enemy in “Smash Run” from “Super Smash Bros. for 3DS” if anyone remembers that.
@vla1ne
@vla1ne Жыл бұрын
damn i miss that mode.
@pikapower_kirby
@pikapower_kirby Жыл бұрын
Aw I loved Smash Run! And yeah, seeing Cryogonal there when I first played was a really neat surprise!
@Leet-iz2fz
@Leet-iz2fz Жыл бұрын
Smash Run was my introduction to Cryogonal. What solidified my admiration for it was the time I got one in Pokémon GO with a Combat Power rating on par with *legendaries* in spite of its poor IVs. Ironically I have yet to use one on a team in all the main series games I've played.
@JCBro-yg8vd
@JCBro-yg8vd Жыл бұрын
An interesting story to see an Ice type that actually got better, for all of a generation.
@pottedplant7460
@pottedplant7460 Жыл бұрын
Man, this brings back the memories of hunting for a shiny one of these. Underrated shiny imo, always reminded of dawn on a winters day
@RickRaptor105
@RickRaptor105 Жыл бұрын
It feels like a missed opportunity that this was pure Ice type instead of Ice/Ghost
@Slop_Dogg
@Slop_Dogg Жыл бұрын
i don’t care about all the specific mechanics and stats or w/e but I always forget this Pokémon exists. it’s like a redesigned Glalie.
@pieterhofkens7259
@pieterhofkens7259 Жыл бұрын
Cryogonal is one of the better single stages mons imo
@Eroil
@Eroil Жыл бұрын
Ignoring legendaries it's probably still bottom 50% for single stage
@galvsparks6295
@galvsparks6295 Жыл бұрын
@@Eroil idk man, single stage has a lot of trash, cryogonal being usable already puts it above average on that front
@Eroil
@Eroil Жыл бұрын
@@galvsparks6295 gen 8 ZU single stage Pokemon that are better- Rotom (regular), miltank, qwilfish, sawk, stunfisk, morpeko. This is ZU
@heavyrain5949
@heavyrain5949 Жыл бұрын
@@galvsparks6295 Above? Nah, but it's a perfectly average mon, nothing wrong with that 🤷
@galvsparks6295
@galvsparks6295 Жыл бұрын
@@heavyrain5949 above average for a single stage, not as a pokemon as a whole
@GymLeaderJasmine
@GymLeaderJasmine Жыл бұрын
I’m glad Cryogonal was decently well off at what it did. This is another case of a Pokémon not needing to be the best to still excel in its role.
@danielmaynard239
@danielmaynard239 Жыл бұрын
Maybe some more underrated Pokemon could be covered too, like Lumineon or Noctowl
@leoberumen116
@leoberumen116 Жыл бұрын
Here's their story: they sucked
@yardship
@yardship Жыл бұрын
For these really bad Pokémon maybe there could be a section where someone talks about what they need to ever be competitive, maybe go over some hypothetical changes or evolutions. There are some poketubers who could guest host for this!
@CosmicNebula444
@CosmicNebula444 Жыл бұрын
For the last point, I think it's really interesting how much typing can do so much for a Pokémon (maybe a video topic for another day?) Like yeah steel in general is fantastic but I find it fascinating how it really helped Cryogonal shine when it was otherwise completely outclassed
@BigGengar13
@BigGengar13 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t realize how much someone at gamefreak loves Cryogonal. Between all the seemingly random coverage moves in solar beam, night slash, poison jab, getting an HP and defense buff AND getting defog in gen 7. It just seems like Cryo is someone’s favorite and keeps sneaking it everything they can
@freshboy3968
@freshboy3968 6 ай бұрын
Oh definitely.
@calebshmanderson
@calebshmanderson Жыл бұрын
The reason why cryogonal can learn and/or use Solarbeam and Flash Cannon is because it's a mirror.
@Ghaust8546
@Ghaust8546 Жыл бұрын
Okay but night slash?!?
@calebshmanderson
@calebshmanderson Жыл бұрын
@@Ghaust8546 Idk I only know the reasoning behind the other two moves
@tentativaX
@tentativaX Жыл бұрын
@@Ghaust8546 Why not Night Slash? Cryogonal sure looks like a ninja star, right?
@MakoShiruba
@MakoShiruba Жыл бұрын
@@Ghaust8546 Razor Sharp Broken Mirror that looks like a Shuriken. Yeah, I would expect this thing to know Slash and it's variants.
@silverbolt9439
@silverbolt9439 Жыл бұрын
Blame gf they sometimes slap moves on mons that make no sense design wise no lore needed(for coverage that's the only excuse).😂 Gastly with the elemental punches and wooper with ice punch no hands Ma.
@taltairzaltair8074
@taltairzaltair8074 Жыл бұрын
This vid came out whilst I was sat around trying to figure out how to use the mon on showdown, absolutely class timing. It’s stat distribution is really unusual, same with the movepool, so I was finding myself totally lost. I really do like it’s design, I have a soft spot for weird looking mons haha, deffo gonna use it now
@v.i.pflame7607
@v.i.pflame7607 Жыл бұрын
Honestly i really like cryogonal a lot, its really nice to see it get somewhat better in gen 9 still holding out for an evolution for it.
@ZetroFox9274
@ZetroFox9274 Жыл бұрын
Cryogonals great and it's weirdly one of the only pokemon I've seen that has gotten pretty much no fans yet no haters at the same time.
@justinkunheeyi
@justinkunheeyi Жыл бұрын
Now the REAL tea is jamming tf out to the Twist Mountain theme while hunting for this thing
@ice_cream_melt
@ice_cream_melt Жыл бұрын
I love how Cryogonal was able to learn Attract despite being genderless. Always felt like a weird pick to get it. Then Gen 8 removed that... That's sad
@bobsmith8405
@bobsmith8405 Жыл бұрын
After watching the Kyurem movie it's nice to see Kyurem has an army of these guys to keep watch for him.
@magicalhikari5859
@magicalhikari5859 Жыл бұрын
Did not know Cryogonal has such a versatile moveset tbh
@nolanj.3897
@nolanj.3897 Жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how consistently good this channel has been over the years
@TheHero136
@TheHero136 Жыл бұрын
This is a Pokémon I always like having in random battles. Not just because of rapid spin but because it forces the opponent to reveal physical attackers. So it works pretty well as a win condition once you account for those physical attackers.
@earlsaverson5387
@earlsaverson5387 Жыл бұрын
I always found it fascinating that the Stealth Rock-weak mon was able to hang as one of the best Spinners while spinning was relevant. Really felt like an underdog story. The creepy ice face would normally not be on my radar, but they really put in the work. Respect.
@asuuki2048
@asuuki2048 Жыл бұрын
I really want a Meloetta episode ;~;
@GWFanSoftcoreBrony
@GWFanSoftcoreBrony Жыл бұрын
Cryogonal has always been one of those Pokemon that feels like it should be better than it ends up being. I loved it back when I first played Black, but of course in the regular game you don't have to worry about opponents having any EVs or move sets that make sense.
@bluebaron6811
@bluebaron6811 Жыл бұрын
When I was little, I always thought it had just one singular eye. I only learned it had 2 eyes after looking at its face a bit more.
@dntremad8290
@dntremad8290 Жыл бұрын
You know that FSG has changed A LOT when his Typhlosion video talked about how sad it was that it was in RU in gen 5 but this video talks about Cryogonal being really good in RU as a very positive fact
@samamies88
@samamies88 Жыл бұрын
Could be either because channel has matured to understand wider array of meta tiers or maybe its because Typho was compared to Charizard (which was often on higher tiers) while Cryo got compared to other ice types (which rarely compete well) - so one was outperformed thus in sad state and another did better than their type generally which is seen as an good thing?
@dntremad8290
@dntremad8290 Жыл бұрын
@@samamies88 I think it's the first scenario, FSG's earlier videos were more about OU and ubers anything below was usually seen as a failure. Honestly this makes me want a remake on all FSG pre-2019 videos
@N12015
@N12015 Жыл бұрын
@@dntremad8290 Honestly it makes me miss those videos. I definitely prefer when he focus on the negatives until it finds a home rather than ignoring the fact is not very good. Also the "straight to the point" style he had instead of tons of filler about the tier instead of the mon per se.
@clash_king1025
@clash_king1025 Жыл бұрын
Surprised you didn’t mention cryogonal learns attract when mentioning weird moves it learns Not the only genderless Pokémon that can learn attract for some reason, but the most iconic
@LordRumshi
@LordRumshi 10 ай бұрын
Flash cannon and solar beam could be from how Cryogonal is a floating snowflake, to where it can kind of reflect/absorb light so it is able to use moves likes those but not in the same way as Pokémon such as Venasaur and Aggron. While night slash could be from how Cryogonal can spin its body very quickly and can cut an opponent from that method.
@Creepy___
@Creepy___ Жыл бұрын
Cryogonal was one of the first batch of competitive Pokemon I ever got back then when I started. I know I traded for one because I was thinking "haha funny snowflake" but I actually kinda fell in love with it. I still have it today. It's actually one of my favorite pokemon ever now
@annaangelic2318
@annaangelic2318 Жыл бұрын
Super cool that Cryogonal was in Subzero Used in Gen 8 briefly. ZU taking it when it already had Articuno was painful.
@galvsparks6295
@galvsparks6295 Жыл бұрын
Man I'm really interested in subzero used, do you have stuff to recommend for such content ?
@henriquecarballoaranha9100
@henriquecarballoaranha9100 Жыл бұрын
Kinda wished this guy got Snow Warning in Gen 9. Would actually be a pretty interesting Snow setter as that patches up its bad Defense stat and its Speed allows it to get up Aurora Veil pretty easily
@ekonthungcyrusngullie4391
@ekonthungcyrusngullie4391 Жыл бұрын
This makes so much sense. It's literally a snow.
@suryav1397
@suryav1397 Жыл бұрын
Cryogonal could be interesting with Terastal - specially bulky in a solid speed tier that can go Tera Electric to give it 0 weaknesses and it gets bolt beam coverage with Ice Beam/Blizzard and Tera Blast. Basically, Tera Ice Regieleki at home. That bad phys def is still concerning, but in a meta where there's a ton of nasty special attackers running around it could be a pretty interesting albeit niche pick. Edit: this thing could be a sleeper pick as a Gholdengo resist in VGC. Check out these calcs with almost 0 investment in spdef 252 SpA Life Orb Tera Steel Gholdengo Make It Rain vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Tera Electric Cryogonal: 133-157 (44.1 - 52.1%) -- 16% chance to 2HKO
@arhardar6873
@arhardar6873 Жыл бұрын
Does the damage calculation consider that Make it Rain drops Gholdengo's special attack stat by 1 stage after the move inflicts damage?
@suryav1397
@suryav1397 Жыл бұрын
@@arhardar6873 Nope. So with that + no nasty plot it's guaranteed to never be a 2HKO unless there's a crit
@floresarmando4318
@floresarmando4318 Жыл бұрын
I love cryo 😍. Definitely on my top 3 pokemon list ❄️. Since it is like a mirror, it would be awesome if it had an ability that reflects special attacks (weaker) everytime it is hit by them
@Jikkuryuu
@Jikkuryuu Жыл бұрын
That's a cool idea, like Rough Skin but for Special moves instead of Contact moves!
@MaribelMusic0417
@MaribelMusic0417 Жыл бұрын
Maybe instead of special moves, it could be specific like “light” moves Said moves would be like Moonblast, solar beam/blade, dark pulse and dazzling Gleam. This’ll probably make cryogonal a good fairy counter since it is also the light type in a sense, while also helping with pokemon who usually need help with these moves.
@floresarmando4318
@floresarmando4318 Жыл бұрын
@@MaribelMusic0417 I love it! And makes sense!
@naturalharmoniagropius4486
@naturalharmoniagropius4486 Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine the re-remake of Dragonite video, knowing it got banned to Ubers as of this moment.
@longbeing
@longbeing Жыл бұрын
Update: as of Jan 10 2023, Terastalization stands as-is and Cryogonal is in RU. Showdown is currently rolling out each tier month-by-month from the top down, so that may play a part in its temporary high tiering. Cryogonal didn’t get enough usage in December to justify it staying in UU.
@bryantbodnar
@bryantbodnar Жыл бұрын
I watched a Let’s Play of Black where the guy caught a Cryogonal for his team, and it was able to take a Fire Blast from the Hydreigon that you fight at the end. It had red health and got burned, but it survived enough to use Light Screen.
@thatjacoblaye
@thatjacoblaye Жыл бұрын
Loved this thing in Gen 8 OU. Was very nice to switch this thing into Lando earthquakes and being able to force a switch out. Turns out, Specs ice beam is REALLY strong
@themega108
@themega108 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video about how some people would buff lower-tier mons. I've seen a ton of people playing radical red and I love how they've boosted some weak mons and made them relevant
@Mugenman88
@Mugenman88 Жыл бұрын
14:12 you list Toxic on it's moveset but Cryogonal currently cannot use Toxic in any way in gen 9, it's a Home only move and even then we're not sure if it'll stay on the moveset if transferred over
@gamermanzeake
@gamermanzeake Жыл бұрын
I was absolutely not expecting that gen nine glow up! There's an example of that actually occurring FSG.
@profes6447
@profes6447 Жыл бұрын
So happy we get to see gen 9 footage now. Terrastalization brings back so much hope for some mons. Love the content.
@Cool-Vest
@Cool-Vest Жыл бұрын
I'm planning on running an aurora veil set against my friend eventually. The snow combined with aurora veil should shore up it's defense sufficiently.
@Deadflower019
@Deadflower019 Жыл бұрын
Yes the infamous Unreciprocated Love Pokémon.
@animagamer2
@animagamer2 Жыл бұрын
I don't think you're exactly right about the point at the start- about it not making sense for Cryogonal to learn certain moves, and if it seems that way then I think it's intentional. Game freak is using your intuition to suggest something unique about Cryogonal and I'd love to get into it more because I think it gets into an interesting point about Pokemon Biology. So first off, why I think it makes sense that Cryogonal can learn a lot of beam moves such as Ice Beam, Solar Beam, Hyper Beam, and Flash Cannon. The last one may seem a bit contentious, but if you look at how Flash Cannon has been depicted in the anime it's always been a Beam-type move. Basically, I think this is Game Freak saying that something about Cryogonal makes it uniquely good at learning Beam Type moves- even ones you'd think an Ice-type pokemon wouldn't be able to learn. Which I think is a super cool way to add uniqueness to a Pokemon and subtly world build using the game mechanics. As to why it can learn a move like Poison Jab, well, why can Arbok or Gastly? What are they Jabbing with? What about Pinoco or Fortress for that matter- Pokemon with similar shape compositions to Cryogonal that also learn Poison Jab. See, a lot of times with Pokemon I think the moves are more like vague descriptions of what's happening rather than literal moves that a Judo Master would teach you- like an Arm Triangle. Let's just ignore the fact that they are literal move tutors in the game for a bit and hear me out. Basically, I think all that's required for a Pokemon to learn Poison Jab is the ability to coak an extremity in poison- either through natural or telekinetic means- and then quickly strike and pull back, a jab if you will. I think Cryogonal meets all those requirements, so to me, it makes sense that it can learn Poison Jab. Now, this is where we get into a lot of interesting biology implications. For example, if these are the only requirements for a Pokemon to be able to learn the move, then why are there so many Pokemon that meet the requirements but don't learn the move? I think there are a couple of interesting explanations that would potentially get into Evolutionary biology and it probably has something to do its innatenaite ability to learn Acid Armor. You can also get into regional revolutionary biology from there to explain why certain Pokemon learn new moves and lose the ability to learn new ones in different regions. All of that is quite a bit out of my depth though, but I think it's a super interesting topic of discussion and I'd love to see *someone* get into more one day. All this to say, I know it was just a little blurb at the start, but it makes a lot more sense if you think about it a bit!
@hasechoward2928
@hasechoward2928 Жыл бұрын
As a genius thing though, this pokemon is bonkers in gen 9 with Terra electric. An absolute unsuspected destroyer of ou that has been slept on
@markerthemark
@markerthemark Жыл бұрын
Cryogonal ain't crying despite it's name too just like it's movepool.
@bladearmorginga6582
@bladearmorginga6582 Жыл бұрын
Honestly always loved cryogonal, I’d love to see it get a unique move or maybe a regional variant if not an evolution.
@devranyilmaz9806
@devranyilmaz9806 Жыл бұрын
Well, as for why it can use certain moves; Night Slash - it has sharp edges, so it can cut Solar Beam - it is reflective, thus it can manipulate light and therefore can use Solar Beam Flash Cannon - same reason as above, except it’s a Steel-type move this time
@Jaffersin
@Jaffersin Жыл бұрын
Was just trying and failing to shiny hunt one of these during an outbreak, thanks for the consolation.
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 Жыл бұрын
Man, it's tragic how centralizing hazards & by extension, Heavy-Duty Boots were. Anyway, neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
@megadudetp
@megadudetp Жыл бұрын
This Pokémon always interested me, I always wondered why it wasn’t part ghost or even water
@markrenton6174
@markrenton6174 Жыл бұрын
I see it as the special version of avalugg, but as spinner, i prefer cryogonal since makes better use of terastalization and recover thanks to its speed, and if you use snow weather it can take some physical attack with it doubling def now, of course avalugg becomes a brutal body presser under snow with tera fight, but being hazard removal its main job, levitate and speed get the win for me, also recover is way more useful in a fast mon and allows for not using boots since spikes don't affect it anyways and if you force a switch out u can take 2 turns of leftovers recovery and even swap recover for protect (thus getting 3 turns recovery and minimizing rocks damage)
@thunderrebel821
@thunderrebel821 Жыл бұрын
I have always been a fan of Cryogonal,and knowing that in early gen 9,it is at UU for the time being,makes me happy
@vinnyfiorino9003
@vinnyfiorino9003 Жыл бұрын
When I was younger I always thought cryogonal was a cyclops. The black in between the two blue dots always seemed like it’s eye to me
@alejandropetit6573
@alejandropetit6573 Жыл бұрын
One of those weird pokemon I used as niche options that can check garchomp and nothing else, I weirdly love this mon
@squidlord9110
@squidlord9110 Жыл бұрын
one thing FSG did not mention, is that if you give cryo assault vest and invest even a decent amount into special defense, you can like 2 specs fire blast from chandelure and if you tera into fire with similar stats with tera blast fire you can wall goldengho
@zerobeta91
@zerobeta91 Жыл бұрын
I was just looking for this video the other day! I’m glad you made it 😂
@M3rtyville
@M3rtyville Жыл бұрын
Still waiting for these duos, quadrets and trios to finish: - Latios - Kyurem - Carracosta - Seviper - other gen 5 monkeys - Cresselia - Tyrantum - Swords of Justice minus Keldeo - Gothitelle - Chesnaught
@Brown95P
@Brown95P Жыл бұрын
How to make Cryogonal better, you ask? Easy: Give it a regional variant with Poison/Steel typing and, here's the important part, *keep Levitate on it.*
@solace5823
@solace5823 Жыл бұрын
Cryogonal is like my fave ice type idk why
@sosams
@sosams Жыл бұрын
I remember Cryogonal from being in Chuggaconroy's team on Pokémon White!
@Weebdotexe
@Weebdotexe Жыл бұрын
right now, I'm using chilly reception to aurora veil, with a sheer force cetitan, testing it out right now, I'll keep you updated on how it fends itself EDIT: 1300 on showdown DUU
@davidpotts7116
@davidpotts7116 Жыл бұрын
Poison jab and night slash I don’t really know why it learns, but for solarbeam and flash cannon I suspect it has to do with a phenomenon called “snow blindness.” UV rays from the sun get reflected off the snow, causing damage to the eyes and can temporarily confuse/blind someone. This is especially common in areas where the air density is lesser, such as in the mountains and tundras where Cryogonal live.
@WesTheMes84
@WesTheMes84 Жыл бұрын
Crygonal my beloved
@snappee
@snappee Жыл бұрын
one of my top favourites (dont ask why), i've been anticipating this video for a while
@AtillaTheFun1337
@AtillaTheFun1337 8 күн бұрын
I tried to make a special tank Crygonal work for a long time, but it was always half baked in execution. Reflect, Ice Beam, Recover and confuse ray to pester. But it never really ever threatened anything my circle of friends used.
@machina5
@machina5 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm I wonder how a Pokemon made entire of sharp edges would use Night Slash. Yeah you got me bro, I've no idea. Edit: Also crystals reflect and refract sunlight
@danielferrieri7434
@danielferrieri7434 Жыл бұрын
I Love Cryogonal's Voice in the Anime
@benpeterson4673
@benpeterson4673 Жыл бұрын
I can't explain the others, but I think that Solar Beam is Cryogonal functioning like a magnifying glass to focus the sun's light, and it's something similar for Flash Cannon.
@aprilm3203
@aprilm3203 Жыл бұрын
I recently was playing random battles on smogon and got a cryogonal as my lead and It knocked out 4 of my opponents mons without even really being that hurt. By the time their fifth mon looked like it was gonna go down they just rage quit. Absolutely hilarious match
@christophertancinco3052
@christophertancinco3052 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Finally a How GOOD was video about my brother's favorite ice type.
@ShukakuTheCrazy1
@ShukakuTheCrazy1 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking if I were to improve it I'd bump up it's HP to 100, then swap its attack and defense stats. Not the best, but still a good improvement
@pineapple8375
@pineapple8375 Жыл бұрын
oo nice cryogonal is one of those pokemon that isnt quite a lot of peoples' favourites but we all still really like
@floofzykitty5072
@floofzykitty5072 Жыл бұрын
I love terastalising my Cryogonal into Electric to have boltbeam coverage and only has a weakness vs ability ignores, and steel is also great for the resists + only fire weakness
@BlueNinjakoopa553
@BlueNinjakoopa553 Жыл бұрын
Iron Defense, Flash Cannon, and Solar Beam are there because of logistics. Cryogonal reflects a lot of light, and Solar Beam and Flash Cannon are light attacks while Iron Defense represents the process of a snowflake forming. Night Slash I'm assuming it learns because it's thin and evil-looking, so it'd probably be able to do the "Night Slash" movement (which is a reference to assassinations with sharp blades, where ninjas would kill unsuspecting victims at night by cutting them down without anyone seeing it coming).
@BabusGameRoom
@BabusGameRoom Жыл бұрын
omg, an Ice type Terestawhateverallizing into a Steel type? I love it!!
@monkweirdo
@monkweirdo Жыл бұрын
I always loved cryogonal, its design is so siple yet amazing, and of course ice being my favourite type helps too In Scarlet, right after beating the ice type gym, a shiny Cryogonal spawned in front of it, tho true it became the least useful member in my team :D
@stellarknight04
@stellarknight04 Жыл бұрын
This thing wiped my team in a Pokemon White Nuzlocke at the entrance to Victory Road, not only does it outspeed everything I have to but also froze my every resistant Pokemon I have or ended them with Sheer Cold. Let's just say that day I never hated a Pokemon so much in my life.
@casbalt7763
@casbalt7763 Жыл бұрын
Snow is interesting in its way to reflect sunlight thats why alot of skier and snowboarders are prone to sunburn
@rifk_
@rifk_ Жыл бұрын
fun fact about obscure side grades of metagames! cryogonal was actually viable in mnm ag due to its speed tier (makes it the fastest sheer cold user) while also having spin recover AND a sheer cold immunity. you may say alolan ninetails is faster which it is BUT can alolan ninetails recover? or spin? didnt think so
@Poiboiii
@Poiboiii Жыл бұрын
The ice beads are the bottom of the pokemon are canonically used as chains or ropes to capture prey, meaning they are strong enough to bind and assumable to have a strong jabbing power, hence poison jab, if gengar can learn fire punch, then cryogonal can learn poison jab
@Amelia4111
@Amelia4111 Жыл бұрын
DO NOT LEAVE OFF THE R IN LEARN THE SECOND TIME!
@ethantreadway9478
@ethantreadway9478 Жыл бұрын
Here’s a fun fact: When I was catching Pokémon in the North Province Mountain in Scarlet and Violet, I found a Cryogonal but I wasn’t engaging in battle with it because it was floating high in the air!
@Frog_Dogger
@Frog_Dogger Жыл бұрын
Cryogonal has a bizarrely high BST for a single-stage Pokemon (515) so getting an evolution is off of the table, but I would love to see this thing get a regional variant.
@ladonmccabe
@ladonmccabe Жыл бұрын
I know its a decisive topic, but 5th gen was my favorite gen for competitive. I remember playing a hail team in RU, and 6th gen NU (i think), with vanilluxe. Was it great? Nah. Was it bad? Nah.
@tedscheett9420
@tedscheett9420 Жыл бұрын
You forgot a crucial move in Cyrogonal's toolkit: Attract.
@Cahootian
@Cahootian Жыл бұрын
When I was playing the sword and shield DLC I saw this Pokémon and thought it was a new Pokémon for months until I found out it came out in gen 5
@lordofyggdrasil9633
@lordofyggdrasil9633 Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this video for so long, cryogonal goated
@RaynmanPlays
@RaynmanPlays Жыл бұрын
They made a snowflake-shaped Pokemon with great special stats but extraordinarily fragile. They literally made a Special Snowflake.
@Ozymandias1111
@Ozymandias1111 Жыл бұрын
My favorite Pokémon to run competitively. I love this thing.
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