How GOOD was Gorebyss ACTUALLY? - History of Gorebyss in Competitive Pokemon

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@hydraulicecstasy8514
@hydraulicecstasy8514 2 жыл бұрын
Never thought of "gorgeous" when thinking of Gorebyss, I always saw "gore" and thought the Pokedex entry for it deceptively made sense
@IgnitedQuils
@IgnitedQuils 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that it learns Draining Kiss as well also makes it more unsettling
@elliotthood1719
@elliotthood1719 2 жыл бұрын
Gore and abyss is how I always thought of it
@IschmarVI
@IschmarVI 2 жыл бұрын
"Gore-gous"
@cintronproductions9430
@cintronproductions9430 2 жыл бұрын
Gorebyss and Beautifly seem to be an example of convergent evolution, both are very different organisms but they have a similar niche in the ecosystem, as both are pretty-looking Pokémon with bright colors and a frail, dainty appearance that hides their true nature as vicious predators that stab their prey and suck it dry.
@StormlordOG
@StormlordOG 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@alexdehatter2151
@alexdehatter2151 2 жыл бұрын
Gen 5 Gorebyss: “I gore the competition.” Gen 7 Game Freak: “We’re sending you to the abyss.”
@SemiHypercube
@SemiHypercube 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly was expecting Gorebyss to be one of those pokemon that did terribly in every generation but I guess it had a niche in OU because Shell Smash
@jaretco6423
@jaretco6423 2 жыл бұрын
Well it did decent in Gen. 3 & 4. Than somehow gotten an little bit better in Gen. 5. But than became mediocre from Gen. 6 & onwards. At least it's no Luvdisc levels of bad.
@junglejuicejuno
@junglejuicejuno 2 жыл бұрын
@Just Dope stop replying to every comment
@Fancy_Bear
@Fancy_Bear 2 жыл бұрын
@@junglejuicejuno it's a bot
@1998topornik
@1998topornik 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@choukrihersi6335
@choukrihersi6335 2 жыл бұрын
To a Pokémon that gory kinda it really worked a special attacker
@jizolord69
@jizolord69 2 жыл бұрын
It’s incredibly eye opening how ONE set-up move gives a pokémon so much value in the smogon sphere.
@ILiekFishes
@ILiekFishes 2 жыл бұрын
same with intimidate for vgc
@jizolord69
@jizolord69 2 жыл бұрын
@@ILiekFishes true
@HannibalKantter
@HannibalKantter 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. For example, Mega Alakazam is banned from OU in Gen 8 National Dex, since it got Nasty Plot in Sword & Shield
@jizolord69
@jizolord69 2 жыл бұрын
@@HannibalKantter imagine if Mega Alakazam was given access to nasty plot in REGULAR competitive
@InciniumVGC
@InciniumVGC 2 жыл бұрын
Recipe for becoming overpowered in singles: Give it some obscenely good boosting move like Shell Smash Give it Baton Pass.
@Glory2Snowstar
@Glory2Snowstar 2 жыл бұрын
I love this thing! The whole Evolution line makes a lot more sense when you think of Clamperl as being a fish egg, ready to hatch into one of two eel-like specimens. Huntail’s adorable, and THIS thing is captivating yet terrifying. It’s a swimming syringe!
@cyanrose0712
@cyanrose0712 2 жыл бұрын
How is Huntail adorable?
@soumyajeetbag2553
@soumyajeetbag2553 2 жыл бұрын
@@cyanrose0712 I mean, it can look kinda cute..
@cyanrose0712
@cyanrose0712 2 жыл бұрын
@@soumyajeetbag2553 that’s a matter of perspective. To me, it’s more deadly looking than Gorebyss.
@dramaticScar
@dramaticScar 10 ай бұрын
They were always bypassed by me because no npc’s use them and I didn’t knew Clamperl could evolve… But I would say that gorebeyss could very much be an unplanned prevolution to Milotic
@IgnitedQuils
@IgnitedQuils 2 жыл бұрын
Still one of the more unexpected evolutions for date. But is memorable for SmashPass combo though.
@nerdstop5025
@nerdstop5025 2 жыл бұрын
Smash or Pass? Nah, Smash AND Pass
@artandem9637
@artandem9637 2 жыл бұрын
As FSG said in smeargle video, smash passing sounds like something they would add to super smash bros
@atsukana1704
@atsukana1704 2 жыл бұрын
@@nerdstop5025 why not both my dude? Hahaha
@slavkei
@slavkei 2 жыл бұрын
ZU needs to become an official tier already. There's so many Untiered pokemon it makes no sense to not make a new tier for all of them, that's a whole new competitive meta for people to play with just waiting to be exploited.
@cuttlefish6839
@cuttlefish6839 2 жыл бұрын
Smogon needs to redesign their whole competitive scene in all honesty its not working and the more pokemon added the worse it gets. Adding more tiers only prolongs the issues of the format say they do add ZU well some pokemon wont make the cut and go to untiered anyway just like what happened with PU. Hecks complex banning from gen 5 shows how toxic it has gotten. And their obsession with each gen having all the pokemon is also showing its problems to their system. Allowing mythical pokemon was also not a healthy idea as deoxys, keldeo, jirachi, mew, etc have shown how warping they are.
@hockeycrafter6086
@hockeycrafter6086 2 жыл бұрын
@@cuttlefish6839 do you have any suggestions or are you just hear your complain
@Goombachi
@Goombachi 2 жыл бұрын
Can they just be "A tier", "B tier" etc. at this point? All of the U's and L's are impenetrable and confusing to newcomers.
@long_john
@long_john 2 жыл бұрын
@@hockeycrafter6086 I think the cutoffs should be decreased (i.e. lower % of usage) and there should perhaps be a voting stage for Pokemon who come very close to this cutoff. I’ve noticed that the banlists have become increasingly massive, partially because of how volatile usage stats can be and partially, maybe, because Smogon has gotten increasingly more ban-happy, changing their philosophy from getting rid of what makes the game unplayable to getting rid of things selectively to make it more competitive. Or in another sense, before it was about getting rid of things when there’s a good reason that it’s bad, but now it’s getting rid of things if there’s no reason why it’s good [good meaning healthy]. That’s just my impression from looking through usage stats and whatnot, and some of the recent bans + arguments in favour of those bans, I wouldn’t claim to be an expert on this.
@seabirdflutter
@seabirdflutter 2 жыл бұрын
can't wait to see how regigigas is unviable there too!
@qorv4973
@qorv4973 2 жыл бұрын
I wish it had a smidge of extra HP, because it's support movepool is a dream.
@snakeinthegrass453
@snakeinthegrass453 2 жыл бұрын
20 point buff for hp next gen…? Pls…
@IgnitedQuils
@IgnitedQuils 2 жыл бұрын
Also a boost to speed as well
@jmash3243
@jmash3243 2 жыл бұрын
What’s so special about its support options?
@thomaswest2583
@thomaswest2583 2 жыл бұрын
@I JUST NEED 270 SUBS Stop spamming
@evangervais4001
@evangervais4001 2 жыл бұрын
@I JUST NEED 270 SUBS ratio pal
@Hazard579
@Hazard579 2 жыл бұрын
When trying to complete the pokedex in gen 3, never figured clamperl would evolve in this. Add this one to the weird evolutions.
@bryanc1772
@bryanc1772 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought this was a wild Pokémon you can capture somewhere
@skeetermania3202
@skeetermania3202 2 жыл бұрын
Smallant had similar troubles with Huntail.
@ElectroBlastLuigi
@ElectroBlastLuigi 2 жыл бұрын
Same here haha as a kid I spent hours trying to find Huntail and Gorebyss. I never thought Clamperl needed an item and trading was required.
@anthonyasome3899
@anthonyasome3899 2 жыл бұрын
What about how good was Gropius actually
@anthonyasome3899
@anthonyasome3899 2 жыл бұрын
I meant tropius
@bmac4
@bmac4 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, Clamperl has one of the most unique histories of any Pokemon in competitive. The damn thing is viable, albeit highly niche and gimmicky, in Gen 3 and Gen 4 UU, thanks to Deep Sea Tooth giving it more unboosted Special Attack than Deoxys-A. In Gen 5 LC they had to ban Deep Sea Tooth entirely because Clamperl reached a whopping 68 Special Attack and 22 speed off a single Shell Smash at level 5 (by comparison one of the best Little Cup Pokemon is Abra, who has had to be suspect tested many times, and it caps at 22 SpAtk and 19 speed, which it will never have both of due to natures). Somehow a monstrously powerful glass cannon is a freaking clam, an animal that stands as a literal symbol of defense.
@Igorcastrochucre
@Igorcastrochucre 2 жыл бұрын
Given the fact that to get one in Gen 3, you have to use Dive on the Abadoned Ship, get the Scanner, then go to Slateport and trade it for a CHOICE between a Deepseatooth or a Deepseascale, you can only pick one, you can never get the other, and the one you get is the only one available. And you still have to trade Clamperl holding one. I guess it's not AS convoluted as finding a Feebas in route 119, but still too much trouble for two Pokémon not even that good.
@craniifer
@craniifer 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I love Huntail's design and have always wanted to run one in campaign, but it's such a pain to get into the Clamperl line. I'm better off just running Clamperl with Eviolite at that point.
@Sunodasuto
@Sunodasuto 2 жыл бұрын
I remember having Huntail as a kid, Pokemon magazines helped a lot back then when it came to figuring this stuff out lol.
@jayclearmen411
@jayclearmen411 2 жыл бұрын
I still think you should be able to find gorebyss & huntail while using dive in the wild!
@gio9255
@gio9255 2 жыл бұрын
I always saw Gorebyss as Milotic's little sister due to having similar designs and offensive movepools. For all the trouble RSE made it to get them, you'd think Gorebyss and Huntail would be incredible mons. Dual stab and physical offensive options would massively improved Gorebyss. I always found Huntail more useful due to the fact it's movepool can account for both types of offense. We have yet to see BDSP's meta develop to it's fullest potential but it's likely Gorebyss will be a NU superstar once again if the conditions are right.
@FlareBlitzBanana
@FlareBlitzBanana 2 жыл бұрын
I remember running amnesia, iron defense, and aqua ring to baton pass to Talonflame to piss people off. It was a terrible strategy and easily countered but was often enough to summon rage quits from people who didn’t have taunt or dragon tail. My first video on KZbin was about this “strategy”, actually.
@RandalfElVikingo
@RandalfElVikingo 2 жыл бұрын
That's why Baton Pass was banned, because smogon does not like fun.
@AyuNico
@AyuNico 2 жыл бұрын
@@RandalfElVikingo oh God not yet another smogon hater in a channel that makes content primarily about smogon LMAO
@RandalfElVikingo
@RandalfElVikingo 2 жыл бұрын
@@AyuNico Oh God, no another incel with an anime pfp.
@A.Froster
@A.Froster 2 жыл бұрын
@@RandalfElVikingo Oh you learn that new world today on Twitter ?
@skeetermania3202
@skeetermania3202 2 жыл бұрын
@@AyuNico Okay, what’s wrong with being critical?
@sarasaland4709
@sarasaland4709 2 жыл бұрын
Hope we get Huntail next week. Also known as "Gorebyss but worse."
@fossilface9516
@fossilface9516 2 жыл бұрын
Gorebyss: "If I had a nickel for every time I was outclassed by a Water/Rock type that learns Shell Smash, I would have three nickels. It isn't a lot but it's weird it happened three times."
@julianooliveira6019
@julianooliveira6019 2 жыл бұрын
This quote sounds familiar. Sounds like the kind of thing that Dr. Doofenshmirtz would say
@bru9383
@bru9383 2 жыл бұрын
@@julianooliveira6019 It might sound crazy, but I *think* you're being sarcastic.
@julianooliveira6019
@julianooliveira6019 2 жыл бұрын
@@bru9383 You seem to have the great power of observation
@RavenDarknyte
@RavenDarknyte 2 жыл бұрын
@@julianooliveira6019 but can they see why kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
@jdrmanmusiqking
@jdrmanmusiqking 2 жыл бұрын
You hit me in the nostalgia
@snapclub8751
@snapclub8751 2 жыл бұрын
Well, since Gorebyss has been reviewed, Huntail should definitely be next.
@robertocorti9845
@robertocorti9845 2 жыл бұрын
It's basically always been slightly worse gorebyss.
@artandem9637
@artandem9637 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, it doesn't work like that. First, you do video about one member, Second, you do video about some random pokemon, that nobody asked for, OR you make a video about Mon from the comments, and Third you spin a 50/50 wheel to decide if you finish the trio, duo etc. or do a step two, repeat until you finish the trio duo etc.
@IkanaCanyon7
@IkanaCanyon7 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertocorti9845 Even Clamperl outclasses Huntail, as it has better bulk and the very item that allows it to evolve into Huntail buffs Clamperl up to have better overall stats than Huntail. Which is stupid but funny haha
@teddyhaines6613
@teddyhaines6613 2 жыл бұрын
@@IkanaCanyon7 Doesn't that run into the problem that every Pokemon gets Knock Off now?
@bmac4
@bmac4 2 жыл бұрын
@@teddyhaines6613 Clamperl gets more Special Attack than Deoxys-A with it on. Unless you bring Clamperl in on something that already knows Knock Off (which if you're using Clamperl you should know better than to do that) or can just OHKO it outright, it's probably ripping a hole in something.
@NanaKyoto
@NanaKyoto 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Clamperl evolves into something like this still baffles me, almost as much as how absurd Smash Passing was.
@Pr1est0fDoom
@Pr1est0fDoom 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and it's funny that Huntail and Gorebyss only have Shell Smash because of their pre-evolution. From a design standpoint, Shell Smash only makes sense on Pokémon that have shells, which only Clamperl does in this evolution line.
@meta1429
@meta1429 2 жыл бұрын
Gorebyss's combo of Shell Smash/Baton Pass is literally the equivalent of the Smash or Pass meme. And now I can't unsee it.
@GerBessa
@GerBessa 2 жыл бұрын
I've yet to see someone prove that they're nerd enough to mention it.
@plentyofpaper
@plentyofpaper 2 жыл бұрын
I thought in gen 5, it also had some presence as a smash passer in Ubers. I remember it as having the wild distinction of being viable and legal in every tier that generation, while it's strategy would differ depending on which mechanics it used were legal in which tier. Definitely one of the more interesting Pokémon on the competitive scene out there.
@stevenmattrell3448
@stevenmattrell3448 2 жыл бұрын
Not gunna lie. I had always been under the impression that Gorebyss and Huntail were among the weaker water-type Pokémon. But looking at their stats and movepools. Dang. Now I’m interested in using them.
@Blaziken36
@Blaziken36 2 жыл бұрын
Such an underrated Pokémon. It’s such an interesting Pokémon in the meta game, can be used as a bulky sweeper, a physical attacker, an AMAZING support mon or just a great weather setter. Soooo good they don’t make em as good as Gorebyss as they used to
@jaretco6423
@jaretco6423 2 жыл бұрын
It's an pain in a butt to evolved though. At least it wasn't as bad as Luvdisc.
@luiseduardo8806
@luiseduardo8806 2 жыл бұрын
I miss cutebyss and friends from my emerald playthrough, she used rain dance and brute forced her way through Steven's team, looking at the save file now, her nature was Timid and she actually had perfect Sp.Atk IVs
@lioninjawarloc
@lioninjawarloc 2 жыл бұрын
You must be from some other plane of existence if gorebyss is showing up in your meta games
@Blaziken36
@Blaziken36 2 жыл бұрын
@@MCisverygood bruh really? Thanks for letting me know
@leon-zt7wu
@leon-zt7wu 2 жыл бұрын
sadly it doesnt really do well in any of these roles. its too frail and is too slow.
@acehardware2823
@acehardware2823 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Gorebyss checks under its bed for water/rock type shell smasher before going to bed
@vannsylten6765
@vannsylten6765 2 жыл бұрын
I remember having a Gen 5, Gorebyss Smash Pass team with Nidoking and Toxic Orb Facade Breloom as the recipients, as their type synergies were great with Gorebyss and both refused to be bothered by status. It wrecked the OU ladder.
@larsweise8315
@larsweise8315 2 жыл бұрын
If you wanna make Gorebyss broken in Gen 8: 1.Give it the Psychic Type 2. let it learn Stored Power in Sword and Shield 3. Enjoy!
@roninwarriorsfan
@roninwarriorsfan 2 жыл бұрын
Also base hp boost as well, 35% should work
@generalsynnacle23
@generalsynnacle23 2 жыл бұрын
Focus Sash Poltageist already has that strategy patented, and can take advantage of Gore’s low SpDEF with Giga Drain.
@larsweise8315
@larsweise8315 2 жыл бұрын
@@generalsynnacle23 True, but for some reason Polteageist isn't a partial Psychic Type.
@generalsynnacle23
@generalsynnacle23 2 жыл бұрын
@@larsweise8315 They learnt their lesson with Malamar.
@wargreymon25
@wargreymon25 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say fairy type is better for it
@EdmacZ
@EdmacZ 2 жыл бұрын
Primarina: *Appears* Gorebyss: "Who are you?" Primarina: "I'm you, just Higher tier."
@oscarzxn4067
@oscarzxn4067 2 жыл бұрын
I find the concept of this Pokémon using shell smash very funny since it's only shells are, well you know where.
@RandalfElVikingo
@RandalfElVikingo 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorites during the Weather Wars. Nobody expected to be sweep until it was too late.
@callmecalicoo
@callmecalicoo 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite Pokemon, had a ton of fun using it in SM doubles.
@bulbeetime4647
@bulbeetime4647 2 жыл бұрын
“Smash or Pass?” Gorebyss: “Yes”
@meleco74
@meleco74 2 жыл бұрын
I'm proud to say I once had a Gorebyss named "Palkia"
@snapclub8751
@snapclub8751 2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever get a Huntail and name it Dialga?
@junglejuicejuno
@junglejuicejuno 2 жыл бұрын
I once had a Starly named Pikachu
@renatoramos8834
@renatoramos8834 2 жыл бұрын
My first badge in competitive pokemon in Brazil was from an UU tournament. I swept my opponents by baton passing Gorebyss' shell smashes to either Nidoking or Sawsbuck. Good times.
@skyiloh7460
@skyiloh7460 2 жыл бұрын
qual torneio q foi?
@renatoramos8834
@renatoramos8834 2 жыл бұрын
@@skyiloh7460 Lop-PE. Grass Gym
@skeetermania3202
@skeetermania3202 2 жыл бұрын
@@renatoramos8834 Anyone have specific counterplay for that?
@renatoramos8834
@renatoramos8834 2 жыл бұрын
@@skeetermania3202 In that tournament, nobody had an answer. Sucker punch Absol was a theoretical threat to the sweep but the one time a saw one, I passed the boosts to sawsbuck. It's nature power turns into earthquake but isn't considered an offensive move, so it bypasses sucker punch.
@bakes1324
@bakes1324 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like goreybyss and huntail are two of the rarest Pokémon in game. I have never had a goreybyss and only one huntail and I’ve been playing since gen 3. You also never even see them on in game enemy teams.
@BETO00
@BETO00 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh Gorebyss and Huntail two pokemon I’ve always wanted to have in my team but I never had any friends to trade with 😵‍💫
@sussy3778
@sussy3778 2 жыл бұрын
Gorebyss being aggressive makes sense since it's name start with the word “Gore”.
@Pikminer-5087
@Pikminer-5087 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Today, Mew gave birth.
@dribble909
@dribble909 2 жыл бұрын
everytime a pokemon drops to untiered at the end of these episodes I get really sad, especially if had a few really good generations before the drop.
@roninwarriorsfan
@roninwarriorsfan 2 жыл бұрын
Powercreep
@nerdyfalco408
@nerdyfalco408 2 жыл бұрын
Me too, but this time it was weird because it fell to untiered due to carracosta, which is my favourite fossil and one of my favourite pokemon in general, but I also like the clamperl line in general (I love more clamperl but some of the love goes to the other two too), so it felt like a bittersweet end for me
@infinitecriativity1588
@infinitecriativity1588 2 жыл бұрын
I Really want to see the following gen 3 pokemons: Zangoose Torkoal Tropius. I'm especially interested in Torkoal who has some interesting trick room shenanigans.
@12jswilson
@12jswilson 2 жыл бұрын
Torkoal could take awhile with gen 7 and 8 VGC where it's been great
@infinitecriativity1588
@infinitecriativity1588 2 жыл бұрын
@@12jswilson I know, False swipe isn't doing complicated mons recently.
@reallyawesometitle7653
@reallyawesometitle7653 2 жыл бұрын
It has a small OU niche as a Curse+Explosion user. Didn't want Metagross to blow up? There's a good alternative
@infinitecriativity1588
@infinitecriativity1588 2 жыл бұрын
@@reallyawesometitle7653 About who are you talking about Zangoose?
@12jswilson
@12jswilson 2 жыл бұрын
@@infinitecriativity1588 I think that's Torkoal. It could curse + explosion in gen 3
@skeetermania3202
@skeetermania3202 2 жыл бұрын
Here I thought it’d be a paired episode with Huntail.
@GustavoSouza-kp5xj
@GustavoSouza-kp5xj 2 жыл бұрын
The way this video would have like 9 minutes three years ago, I love it
@TheTrueProxy
@TheTrueProxy 2 жыл бұрын
I love when elegant looking pokemon are good. As the gens go on the top tiers are becoming more and more dominated by hideous monstrosities. Things took a turn when Milotic started getting way worse.
@jaretco6423
@jaretco6423 2 жыл бұрын
Wait. Milotic gotten worst? How?
@IschmarVI
@IschmarVI 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaretco6423 Powercreep
@Dr.Stein_
@Dr.Stein_ 2 жыл бұрын
I actually find it funny seeing "ugly" mons wreck it in the high tiers
@jaretco6423
@jaretco6423 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought Milotic was just an good Gyradoes.
@cintronproductions9430
@cintronproductions9430 2 жыл бұрын
Well, Clefable is an example of a top tier Mon that isn't a monstrosity, it's cute yet it causes so much pain.
@larsweise8315
@larsweise8315 2 жыл бұрын
I hope he will cover Kecleon in the near future🙏
@vdd1001
@vdd1001 2 жыл бұрын
It's crazy FSG only has 381k subs, they deserve like a million
@ForeverKite42
@ForeverKite42 2 жыл бұрын
i wonder if increases it's base speed to 60 would shatter its issues. Gorebyss is still a solid pokemon and has great range... maybe give is grass knot?
@EruditoGaming
@EruditoGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Could easily cut 10 attack and give that to speed. Base 124 speed in rain would help a lot.
@Karsow2054
@Karsow2054 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone: smash or pass? Gorebyss: Both, both is good
@fabribe1683
@fabribe1683 2 жыл бұрын
Gorebyss is the Little Mermaid of pokemon. Starts with gorebyss having a good time, ends in the most tragic way
@TheDeepThinker-sq3iy
@TheDeepThinker-sq3iy 2 жыл бұрын
The LITTLE MERMAID of pokemon you say? Um No... THAT goes to Primerina who's actually mermaid BASED.
@megamegasaur
@megamegasaur 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDeepThinker-sq3iy Primarina is based on a siren not a mermaid.
@TheDeepThinker-sq3iy
@TheDeepThinker-sq3iy 2 жыл бұрын
@@megamegasaur And sirens are a type of mermaid... an EVIL kind of mermaid. though, their forms have varied from story to story... in most cases their usually portrayed as being half fish and half women, but there are variants that are/have been known to be part bird and part women instead. in THIS particular case... they probably CANT really be a type of mermaid. But the reality of sirens is... their actually evil deceitful spirits that tend to take the form of mermaid like beings. but being spirits... this COULD explain why their are bird variants of sirens. Either way... sirens are usually mermaid like, which is why they can be referred to a kind of evil mermaid. Although Primarina is in fact more like a seel in the top half, it IS more mermaid like in design. but even if Primarina WASN'T based off of an actual mermaid.... it STILL possess that aesthetic look hella LOT more than Gorebyss does. Your statement of WHY Primarina isn't a mermaid falls flat, because even if it isn't.. Gorebyss isn't one either.
@TheDeepThinker-sq3iy
@TheDeepThinker-sq3iy 2 жыл бұрын
@@megamegasaur .....I was FACTUALLY incorrect(Sort of)when I had posted my last answer. . . in contrast to what you had pointed out and what I had ASSUMED to be true wasn't immediately obvious to me. . The argument wasn't who was more like a mermaid.... it was that I had SAID Primarina was BASED on a mermaid.. to the which you replied that it was based on a siren.. NOT a mermaid(exactly). Regardless of the similarity's that they shared... Primarina wasn't technically BASED off of a mermaid by choice of name. . . . . .Your answer. . . was indeed correct! sorry about that....😅
@megamegasaur
@megamegasaur 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDeepThinker-sq3iy I didn't do any research on the subject when I posted my comment. I just thought Gorebyss wears a seashell bra like a mermaid while Primarina sings like a siren.
@HMZeroTwo
@HMZeroTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Gorebyss, the better Clamperl evolution if you ask me. Love how it gorgeous it looks.
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 2 жыл бұрын
Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading! Clamperl analysis when?
@SofterSideStudios
@SofterSideStudios 2 жыл бұрын
Delcatty, Swalot, Torkoal, Grumpig, Spinda, Zangoose, Seviper, Lunatone, Solrock, Kecleon, Tropius, Huntail, Relicanth, and Latios 14 hoenn mons left
@TixSloth
@TixSloth 2 жыл бұрын
yep
@reallyawesometitle7653
@reallyawesometitle7653 2 жыл бұрын
Not counting NFEs and Little Cup, of course
@Wildcatt1999
@Wildcatt1999 2 жыл бұрын
Was anyone expecting him to cover both Huntail and Gorebyss together?
@andreivaldez2929
@andreivaldez2929 2 жыл бұрын
No. Go through his videos; he rarely ever does that, usually only when two Pokémon kind of play alike and have little to cover for both.
@IschmarVI
@IschmarVI 2 жыл бұрын
they are different enough to warrant sperate videos. Gorebyss is almost exclusively a special attacker while Huntail is more of a physical/mixed attacker.
@jaretco6423
@jaretco6423 2 жыл бұрын
I thought so too. But than I realized it had an different types stat. Though they both have the same stats total. Don't they?
@wheeler1003
@wheeler1003 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely underrated and dangerous. You'd think this is another forgotten unviable Pokémon but that's not the case.
@jaretco6423
@jaretco6423 2 жыл бұрын
Well only in Gen. 5 it was great. But that was about it.
@pacoramon9468
@pacoramon9468 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, I though it was suppose to be a dolphin, nothing like the real monstruosity is based of.
@slitheringserpent4433
@slitheringserpent4433 2 жыл бұрын
I like gorebyss, it’s one of those weird Pokémon that you forget exist.
@Crusina
@Crusina 2 жыл бұрын
man they are doing all the pokemon i've been wanting lol
@bobi200samatar6
@bobi200samatar6 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it's name was based on the words 'gore' and 'abyss'. I don't know why, but when I saw it's design and name for the first time, I immediately thought 'this thing is some kind of horrible monster, right'. Read the pokedex entry and was proven right.
@darianclark3980
@darianclark3980 2 жыл бұрын
Its wierd having a pure Water type being Outclassed by Water/Rock types. What a wierd gore-ing realization for Gorebyss
@Zenithal1843
@Zenithal1843 2 жыл бұрын
WeedleTwineedle convinced me that Shell Smash Deep See Tooth Clamperl is more fun that Gorebyss.
@chilX3467
@chilX3467 2 жыл бұрын
I remembered back when I watched online vs recorder matches in black and white, there were a lot of matches where people ran gorebyss with politoed in 6v6.
@tu-262
@tu-262 2 жыл бұрын
i actually forgot this pokemon even existed. incredible
@somebodyrandomly
@somebodyrandomly 2 жыл бұрын
FSG should do a "How good was Incineroar actually?" That would be entertaining tbh
@Spengey
@Spengey 2 жыл бұрын
Aka the VGC episode lol
@christianbuffum-robbins8904
@christianbuffum-robbins8904 2 жыл бұрын
80% of that would be VGC
@somebodyrandomly
@somebodyrandomly 2 жыл бұрын
@Just Dope 👌
@somebodyrandomly
@somebodyrandomly 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakelowk3y793 A live stream lol
@Duskool
@Duskool 2 жыл бұрын
It's very obvious that GameFreak doesn't really care about balance when they add moves like Shell Smash, and then add moves like Geomancy to the table. it's like Dragon Ball with these guys, the only way to correct power creep, is apparently with worse power creep
@owltoe0164
@owltoe0164 2 жыл бұрын
Gorebyss: one of the few pokemon you can smash AND pass
@babfobreeza4858
@babfobreeza4858 2 жыл бұрын
Gorebyss and Huntail made smash or pass popular before the Internet did.
@InciniumVGC
@InciniumVGC 2 жыл бұрын
Baton pass pretty much ruins singles if it's not banned. This just kinda reinforces my theory that the game is balanced around playing VGC rather than playing 6v6 singles (but then, dynamax is still arguably broken in VGC)
@CaptainMetric
@CaptainMetric 2 жыл бұрын
i never thought id ever see one of your videos on my favorite pokemon!
@ParasaurolophusZ
@ParasaurolophusZ 2 жыл бұрын
It's always interesting to see how many of these How Good Was end up being less about the Pokemon and more about some uncommon Move or Ability combination.
@hasechoward2928
@hasechoward2928 2 жыл бұрын
New Water/Rock pokemon comes out in gen 9 : Gorebyss : I. Hate. You.
@doolenny9458
@doolenny9458 2 жыл бұрын
nice a vid on imo one of the most forgotten and underrated pokemon
@doolenny9458
@doolenny9458 2 жыл бұрын
lets hope we get a mienshao
@theplayfulparody2183
@theplayfulparody2183 2 жыл бұрын
I have NEVER heard "Gorgeous." I heard "Gore Abyss" which is much more apt.
@Tintelinus
@Tintelinus 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl Gorebyss is one of those Pokemon I just forget even exist.
@lostanguishbladelord2461
@lostanguishbladelord2461 2 жыл бұрын
Needs a Water/Psychic Mega Evolution
@xx_v_xx4373
@xx_v_xx4373 2 жыл бұрын
This thing makes more sense as "Beautifly of the Sea" instead of Lumineon
@JamJestKesh
@JamJestKesh 2 жыл бұрын
to me the name always sounded like gore and abyss, never thought it was gorgeous
@Total2Gamerz
@Total2Gamerz 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this weird fish in gen 5, used to play it baton passing to darmanitan that than proceeded to decimate everything with life orb boosted flare blitz. The strategy didn t work most of the time since i really wasn t good at competitive singles but when it did it was really satisfying. Edit: also i didn t bother with checking ivs , i was fine with just getting the right nature, so that definetely didn t help my success in online matches
@sosams
@sosams 2 жыл бұрын
I have never seen Gorebyss' gen 3 sprite until now.
@ice_cream_melt
@ice_cream_melt 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone's favourite swan/pearl/duck thingy
@ogorangeduck
@ogorangeduck 2 жыл бұрын
Been wanting Huntail or Gorebyss for years now as a joke lol
@donotdisplayname952
@donotdisplayname952 2 жыл бұрын
Gorebyss can be a terror in the battle tower of emerald, specially against physical attackers. It will setup raindance, then hydropump hits like a truck and it is quite bulky, it will need at least three physical hits before dying.
@Mcflyeon
@Mcflyeon 2 жыл бұрын
A Mega Evoution with Psychic typing and Magic Bounce (which could be wicked with Smash Pass) could help it to make it shine again
@alexandrosmourelatos7690
@alexandrosmourelatos7690 2 жыл бұрын
Τhat means we getting Huntail next? Huntail actually got the interesting factor of "Super Fang"
@AkamexAris1023
@AkamexAris1023 2 жыл бұрын
Gorebyss is a sneaky late round Draft League pick. Even if Smash Pass is banned, it still can put in some insane work on it's own
@DennisTheZZZ
@DennisTheZZZ 2 жыл бұрын
14:26 Lumineon, begging for Quiver Dance for several Gens: -_-
@TKnHappyNess
@TKnHappyNess 2 жыл бұрын
Huntail and Gorebyss would've been outclassed by Blastoise as a Shell Smasher if they were in Gen 8, plus Carracosta returned in the Crown Tundra
@mattisonstrom6452
@mattisonstrom6452 2 жыл бұрын
Babe wake up, new FSG video just dropped
@deltalord6969
@deltalord6969 2 жыл бұрын
Gorebyss really looked at the smash or pass challenge and went "why not both?" xd
@J.R.Unbound
@J.R.Unbound 2 жыл бұрын
When I first saw Gorebyss, I had no idea what I was looking at. When I last saw Gorebyss, I had no idea what I was looking at. What am I looking at!?
@bobjoe3492
@bobjoe3492 2 жыл бұрын
Clam snek
@maromania7
@maromania7 2 жыл бұрын
A snipe eel, with a bit of oarfish influence.
@J.R.Unbound
@J.R.Unbound 2 жыл бұрын
@@maromania7 You learn something new every day. Thanks!
@NobodyDungeons
@NobodyDungeons 2 жыл бұрын
What I would do is use Pelipper to set up rain then switch into a pokemon like a half health ferrothorn with a rindo berry gorbyss with some defensive investment to tank a grass type attack and boost up with shell smash allowing me to start wrecking havok with high powered attacks using.
@neptuniamarina4924
@neptuniamarina4924 2 жыл бұрын
This video is an odd yet great example of the problem with Water Types. There's so many that its really hard to be unique in your own way. Gorebyss is a mid tier pokemon, Shell Smash, Okay movepool. Has the tools but due to the sheer amount of Water Types, There's almost always something better then it because several other water types also have the same tools. I feel like the only way for Waters to stand out nowadays is obscene stats or gimmicks like Toxepex or Barraskewda.
@TheOriginalJphyper
@TheOriginalJphyper 2 жыл бұрын
I stared into the Gorebyss... and the Gorebyss stared back.
@lillyie
@lillyie 2 жыл бұрын
gorebyss: *is struggling* gen 5: splish splash, i gift you shell smash
@Myron_The_Slavicwolf
@Myron_The_Slavicwolf 2 жыл бұрын
How good was Torkoal actually? That should be next
@andreivaldez2929
@andreivaldez2929 2 жыл бұрын
ok
@jimmymackinnon8474
@jimmymackinnon8474 2 жыл бұрын
Ok
@jaretco6423
@jaretco6423 2 жыл бұрын
At least one of the better Gen. 3 mons that isn't an Legendary, Psudeo-Legendaries, starter Pokemons or Breloom.
@Seeker_of_Truth_and_Beauty
@Seeker_of_Truth_and_Beauty 2 жыл бұрын
Well I was *going* to ask for Huntail, but I guess that's a given for next week.
@pokemaniac333
@pokemaniac333 2 жыл бұрын
GF could have made it Water/Psychic or Water/Fairy when gen 6 rolled around, but they chose not to. A secondary typing wouldn't have fixed all of its flaws, but STAB coverage of some variety would have helped its role as a sweeper. I feel like Fairy giving it Draining Kiss at least would make sense given its pointy mouth.
@leojamesquiambao1047
@leojamesquiambao1047 2 жыл бұрын
Gorebyss didn't gain the fairy-type since it was based on a snipe eel (a type of fish). There is nothing about it that screams fairy-type apart from it being pink. Having draining kiss in its learnset makes sense though since its entries mention it draining other beings of their energy, but that's it.
@S3lvah
@S3lvah 2 жыл бұрын
"Smash or pass?" Gorebyss: "Yes."
@Just.Nightmare
@Just.Nightmare 2 жыл бұрын
Now I feel like you gotta do Huntail
@yungmuney5903
@yungmuney5903 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Deep Sea Tooth and Scale worked for Gorebyss and Huntail too?
@iBenjamin1000
@iBenjamin1000 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking at their entries and seeing they gave any stat boost to clamperl. I thought, why the hell don't they work for its evolutions?
@octomar1815
@octomar1815 2 жыл бұрын
Mom, can we have Milotic? We already have Milotic at home. Milotic at home:
@DarthCoughlin
@DarthCoughlin 2 жыл бұрын
Omg I never made the gorgeous connection. I always thought that it was gore from the abyss. Because of it being a deep ocean dweller.
@hekirb3382
@hekirb3382 2 жыл бұрын
Here's a fun drinking game: take a shot everytime a pokemon becomes completely irrelevant thanks to gen 7 powercreep
@Rurike
@Rurike 2 жыл бұрын
Ill always remember a match i had against a guy in person who went in hard on smash passing with gorebyss, had two smashes and a sub set up thinking he was safe to switch to his graninja, but I just so happen to be using a Noivern with infiltrator, meaning I hit past his sub on what he assumed was a safe botton pass and ohko`ed his strategy
@rowanjadon2664
@rowanjadon2664 2 ай бұрын
I actually used Gorebyss in bw2. She was honestly really solid. Really great with Aqua ring and swift swim.
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