How GOOD was Vileplume ACTUALLY? - History of Vileplume in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 1-7)

Vileplume is today’s Pokemon for our competitive history series! Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Vileplume in competitive Pokemon!
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0:00 - Intro
0:45 - RBY/Gen 1
1:48 - GSC/Gen 2
4:07 - ADV/Gen 3
5:40 - DPP/Gen 4
7:36 - BW/Gen 5
10:22 - XY/Gen 6
12:37 - SM/Gen 7
15:20 - SS/Gen 8
16:33 - Gen 8 VGC
18:01 - Outro
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[@krookking2237]

Any gen 1 pokemon: Poison type FSG: UNFORTUNATELY

[@lyokowarrior2545]

If he ever does Arbok We will hear that a lot xD

[@joaomacedo111]

Kellen: UN FOR TU NA TELY Me: YAAAAY

[@RBatman5000]

Welp being weak to psychic is never good

[@femursike-18]

Victreebel: am i joke for you?

[@cryingwithrage]

Gengar: Am I joke to you?

[@jayanths1221]

Vileplume: "You took everything from me" Venusaur: "I don't even know who you are"

[@shirshanyaroy287]

More like: Vileplume: "You took everything from me" Venusaur: "Lol get rekt noob"

[@brewings]

@@shirshanyaroy287 it's a infinity war reference (or endgame)

[@798jeremy]

Also Victreebel : Why are you still there ? XD Vileplume : Stop mocking me ! :'(

[@lynxfresh5214]

Amoonguss and Roserade: "You'll get no sympathy from us!" Vileplume: "Just stop already!" Side note: its pretty messed up GF introduced objectively better grass/poison types in back to back gens (Roserade in gen 4 and Amoonguss in gen 5).

[@emojifr...]

Bellosom: I have been taken

[@maswoodshaheb3931]

The first 10 minutes were just "How GOOD was Venusaur ACTUALLY?"

[@dreadknight2439]

Or in this case “How GREAT was Venasaur ACTUALLY?”

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@dreadknight2439 lmao hilariously wrong

[@macksdub6472]

JBGR Network dawg why are you in every comment thread trying to make someone feel dumb

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@macksdub6472 eh, just commenting dumbass, besides I'm looking every Pokemon themed video, for sum salty and spoiled Fat kids that are over a region with a overextincted amount of plus 400 species, and the lack of Megas and z-moves, don't complain and do what ur fate tells u lel

[@grandangus5285]

JBGR Network wut

[@goldenhydreigon4727]

How GOOD was Vileplume ACTUALLY featuring Venusaur

[@toadallynoodle5414]

We got a sneak peek at How GREAT was Venusaur ACTUALLY in this vid.

[@j-star.]

Can someone count the amount of times venusaur was said and the amount of times vileplume was said?

[@TraumaCenter13]

Also it gets outclass by Amoonguss starting in Gen 5.

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@j-star. LOL XD

[@aidendavid2680]

When fsg talks about gen 4 uu venusaur is bound to come up

[@pepeknight]

"Are you an Offensive or Defensive Pokemon? " Vileplume: Yes

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

These memes getting old bruh

[@chucknorris9667]

@@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619 that doesn't really matter anyway

[@gengarzilla1685]

Let people enjoy memes instead of policing them.

[@N12015]

We call those tanks, who are basically defensive pokemon with offensive pressence. That's pretty common on things like Clefable, Swampert, Slowking/Slowbro, Arcanine, Donphan, Gigalith and Alolan-Muk, among others. PS: M-Venusaur is a premier example of playing offense while on defense, so even in that Venusaur is better than Vileplume.

[@blackdot105]

@@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619 People tend to like dragging dead bodies around.

[@hartmann4710]

THE PERFECT COMBINATION OF OFFENSE AND DEFENSE POISON GRASS SPLIT ATTACK

[@dasdebo9700]

Is this a motherfucking JoJo reference????

[@iantaakalla8180]

Even better, the ice attack Dio would use would be super effective on Vileplume

[@DBZMacky]

@@iantaakalla8180 Even better, Dire ends up damaging Dio by throwing a rose at him

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@DBZMacky bruh

[@chuyrenteria6252]

Hinjaku Hinjaku!

[@felicen93]

At this rate we're gonna become a Gospel group singing a song called Unfortunately every week

[@MisterSleep1123]

I ain't complainin'

[@ninikins5751]

oh lawd the gen 1 poison types are comin'

[@itriggerpeople4433]

Someone's gotta make that song

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@itriggerpeople4433 yuh, you

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@ninikins5751 bruh shutfup

[@3xtblade652]

“Everyone say it with me now. Unfortunately...” This always cracks me up.

[@justanotherisekaiprotagoni7293]

He’s self aware of the meme😭

[@lacanm1554]

Vileplume's gen 4 sprite is fitting for what happened to it tier wise

[@KingStr0ng]

Sad boi

[@2022irons]

Venusaur: (laughs) Vileplume: (visible embarrassment)

[@ShadowtheYouTuber523]

You mean just the DPP sprite? Cuz it wasn't like this in HGSS.

[@lacanm1554]

@@ShadowtheKZbinr523 yeah

[@DrPumpkinz]

I love Pokemon like Vileplume. Even though they're low-tier, they're still solid Pokemon. They're just very outclassed by even-more-solid Pokemon.

[@somegalnamedseelpit3713]

Yeah! Pokés that thrive in lower tiers are probably my favourites - and with Vileplume doubly so, what with Game Freak's terrible treatment towards it. Even if it wasn't OU, it kept smiling and dominating whichever lower tier it was in >w

[@kakaks32]

wait i have seen you in the smogon forums

[@DrPumpkinz]

@@kakaks32 Maaaybe...

[@udayasimhan9498]

I love saying 'Unfortunately' with you.Also weather wars and ferrothorn and advent of megas and z moves

[@frozenvoltz6739]

Ferrothorn is one of the faces of Gen 5's powercreep and the Steel Type in general

[@rotozizou8285]

"Gen 5 powercreep and the abundance of Fighting types"

[@pepeknight]

@@frozenvoltz6739 TBH I think Ferrothorn is a necessary evil. While it caused so many mons to drop, it also stood up against a lot of really dangerous threats. Also I'm kinda biased cause I love durians.

[@RazorusR3X777]

@@pepeknight Same with Lando. I mean, does anyone really want Koko and the robot sex doll dominating OU?

[@udayasimhan9498]

Yes Lando is a necessary evil

[@calebdonaldson7044]

I like how vileplume just melts into the floor when it’s defeated

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

Bruh, maybe is just sludge?

[@cintronproductions9430]

@@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619 Or maybe it buries itself, it is a plant after all.

[@Emperor_Atlantis]

@@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619 Hippo: "Bruh, if you are going to taco bell go pick me up some..."

[@thomasjay3291]

Gotta love those stadium animations

[@internetmovieguy]

Flood gang!

[@primrosevale1995]

5:41 "Tragedy struck in the fourth generation..." *(Looks at Vileplume's Gen 4 sprite)* Yeah that seems about right.

[@gustavorodriguez5643]

Drinking game: Take a shot every time FSG has said *UNFORTUNATELY* in an RBY analysis.

[@christinefarrell6438]

But my liver!!

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

Lmao

[@Renwit355]

What gen 1 Pokemon that FSG hasn't done yet would avoid an unfortunately judgement?

[@Fraugrin]

id do it but i ran out of any alcohol last month

[@kingoflions827]

Youll be ded

[@butteredsalmonella]

A Pokemon that got outclassed, power crept and fell to NU but had slowly and surely rose to RU. Rising of the Vileplume Hero!

[@shawnli4746]

linoone can top that

[@sebarsht12]

If Vileplume was a Pokemon Shield-exclusive, your comment would be even more better.

[@mistee2193]

ROSE to RU, ok I’ll leave

[@butteredsalmonella]

@@shawnli4746 Linoone is really tragic, Gen 7 RUBL then Gen 8 NUBL

[@butteredsalmonella]

@@sebarsht12 too bad:(

[@beanburrito4405]

Summary: outclassed by Venusaur for its whole life

[@starmaker75]

but still a success career in RU

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@starmaker75 actually is in NU, due of the lack of buffs and not having mega, and idc about the shitty gen 8 games, but gotta say is solid and quite effective

[@jambon2730]

Actually Vileplume is a better physical tank than Venusaur now Vileplume have access to aromatherapy and strength sap, on of the best recovery move in the game, and effect Spore could potentially weaken a sweeper combined with Rocky helmet Venusaur only have synthesis with a few 8 pp wich makes him lost against pokemon like Corviknight or zapdos while Vileplume isn't afraid of healing

[@nift36]

​@@jambon2730Venusaur better in Chlorophyll teams tho :)

[@PerfectAzrael]

⁠@@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619Nobody asked about your thoughts on Gen 8.

[@jambon2730]

Now used as a physical tank with Leech Seed, aromatherapy, strength sap and giga drain/sludge bomb is just a monster in gen 8

[@ganeshsolanki8803]

Held item and evs

[@skeletonjanitor]

@@ganeshsolanki8803 none or black sludge

[@itriggerpeople4433]

Y'all ever smell the flower Vileplume is based off? That sh*t will scar you...

[@GM.Nobody]

The Raflessia flower, spreads it's spores using flies.. So yeah probably sucks a lot

[@nok4799]

How does it smell like?

[@championchrome5452]

@@nok4799 iirc, the Raflessia flower supposedly smells like rotting flesh, as the flies it uses for pollination would be attracted by the scent of a decaying corpse. So yeah.

[@yaboidragonitehere1137]

@@nok4799 it smells like raw meat

[@pathalenvivaldi7811]

My favorite Vileplume style was gen 7 doubles. Used it on a Trick Room team, always leading alongside Porygon 2. Max hp/Max def + Assault Vest and Effect Spore, sassy nature. Juggling Moonblast, Giga Drain, Sludge Bomb and HP Fire. Tanked nearly everything, blew up dragons, fairies and anything steel/grass or steel/bug, and was generally great. Only a kill hungry mega Salamance had a fairly high chance at 1 shotting it with Double Edge. And Porygon covered that weakness with Blizzard and Tri-Attack against such threats.

[@rdla3022]

Can we all just give Vileplume a hug? It deserves it. The poor flower.

[@krishhiranandani7875]

The stadium 1 fainting animation is just depressing

[@blaster.m1943]

He just returns to the ground

[@sebarsht12]

Kangaskhan as well, she falls sideways forcing the baby out of the pouch.

[@pantherman691]

He melting or something

[@cintronproductions9430]

@@sebarsht12 I thought Kangaskhan's fainting animation has her choking herself.

[@sebarsht12]

@@cintronproductions9430 That's even worse, the mother chokes, leaving the baby to fend for itself. To protect itself in its dangerous world, it wears its mother's head.

[@Shura143]

I'll never forget gonzap's vileplume in XD just dropping hyper beam out of nowhere, didn't accomplish much, but it certainly wasn't expected!

[@shawnli4746]

You forgot vileplume's special attack buff in gen 6

[@vanishingumbreon7615]

Vileplume: *exists* Lower tiers: "Why do I hear boss music?"

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

Grow up kid, competitive isn't a game, is a LIFE DEPENDANT college title or thousands of dollars

[@tunace3503]

@@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619 dude its a meme ....

[@yuakim]

@@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619 uhhhhhh, how do you know if he's a kid. You definently are the kid here

[@goldengoon4073]

"Say the line bart" "Unfortunately" YAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

[@l3monss140]

Vileplume is one of my fav pokemon so watching it slowly destroy every tier it's in in recent generations is so nice to see.

[@jambon2730]

Grass poison in a nutshell : Amoongus : Hahaha Spore go brrrrr Venusaur : Sun sweeper Roserade : Spikes and toxic Spikes setter Vileplume : Hocus pocus your attack is now my recovery

[@jacobdeweil3553]

Venusaur: Gets the spotlight with a mega Vilepume and Victreebel cry in despair

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@ARTEM DORDZHIEV yuh, still disappointed, that is in NU, I expected like RU Or UU

[@gengarzilla1685]

I mean, it's honestly better to be a star in a lower tier than dead weight in a higher one. Look at stuff like Krookodile and Hydreigon throughout Gens 6 and 7.

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@gengarzilla1685 eh, with a smart choice and technic you can make a Mon ACTUALLY good Note: yes I'm not all Mons are going to end good with a strategy, but it could work with some mons that had the high ground before, however it'll take time and energy

[@sreenaths6829]

@@gengarzilla1685 Krooks and Hydreigon are amongst the best in Gen 7 UU though.

[@crimbo4690]

@@gengarzilla1685 I agree with your point but those are terrible examples since Kook and Hydreigon have been absolute stars in UU for years

[@t0xictm201]

You should make a shirt that just says: “unfortunately”

[@MuchWhittering]

So back in the day on Fire Red I started with Charmander, so my friend traded me an Oddish to get through the first gyms. That Level 100 Vileplume is one of my oldest companions.

[@victorestrella9503]

@Völkisch Pacifist This may be hard to believe but 90% of kids who play Pokemon just choose their favorites without considering anything else. Also back in the days of Fire Red and Leaf Green, when the internet was at its early phases and your a kid without the guidebook your not really going to know anything about the game until you play through it

[@AudioGAWD]

That Petal Dance in Gen 1 was the only reason I had a Vileplume

[@victorestrella9503]

@Völkisch Pacifist When Fire Red was out the anime was in Battle Frontier. I saw the Indigo League when i was 10 when i bought the dvds in blockbuster

[@bridgeseller7004]

@Völkisch Pacifist Eh. So you played through every game using only one "most effective" starter. Well, that's still your choice but... Don't you want to feel something new?

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@Völkisch Pacifist dude, nobody wants Bulbasaur, just because of it's appearance, for me it was meh, I never hated it but it wasn't that appealing to choose, it was like at gen three when I started to appreciate it

[@sirboglor562]

Vileplume: "Who are you?" Venausaur: "I'm you but stronger"

[@peteypariah6603]

One of my favorites. The past few generations have given it some pretty nice buffs; +10 special attack, fairies, Strength Sap just to name a few.

[@sabahatfatima1415]

I think vileplume is underrated and when I first saw it I instantly loved it

[@damianwarneke305]

When I knew nothing of Pokemon as a kid I thought Vileplume was the best grass type and was always scared of fighting it

[@chemicalfuzzy]

Venusaur may be better stat-wise, but Vileplume is cuter, and that makes all the difference

[@kingkuma4112]

@@chemicalfuzzy EXACTLY!

[@theraginginfernape9496]

Any grass/poison type: exists Venusaur: I'm bout to end this man's whole career.

[@Katrinaprime]

Roserade:: I don't think so!

[@jamesmasse5794]

Also amoongus

[@CranberryFo]

I'd love to see: "How good was Cinccino ACTUALLY?"

[@microwave8931]

I don't know about battling but in the cuteness format, uber

[@suchomimustenerensis]

Sh*t that’d be depressing.

[@ShadowtheYouTuber523]

It's here and it's actually not depressing.

[@CranberryFo]

@@ShadowtheKZbinr523 Thank you! I hadn't noticed, but I'm excited to watch this episode with my favorite Pokemon!

[@ShadowtheYouTuber523]

@@CranberryFo ok

[@TheGrimGoblin]

I'd love to see a "How GOOD was Floatzel ACTUALLY?" since it's one of my favorite water types.

[@digitaltailsmon4096]

I'm happy my 2nd favorite grass type of gen 1 is actually kinda good at least in the lower tiers. I was so scared it was gonna be a pu or even untiered pokemon. Just don't tell it my favorite gen 1 grass type is (Venusaur)

[@Espeon804]

Every time I see Vileplume, I hear: *"You're not running properly, James!"*

[@jg1404]

I’m surprised FSG didn’t mention Vileplume’s famous anime debut. That episode of James’s arranged bride-to-be is probably one of my favorite filler episodes

[@EruditoGaming]

God I love that episode lol

[@willboyheroify]

Is hypno dabbing at 1:40 he even charged it like a gee

[@jacobwhelan45]

Lmao I can never unsee that now

[@trevorwhiteboy2649]

😂😂😂

[@dt5716]

I noticed straight away and was looking for someone else who had! Big moves from Hypno

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@dt5716 hypno is such a weird case, but is never expected to be outclassing a Alakazam aka a Mon with two evolution stages

[@jermainetalaepa8463]

faccctttssss

[@nixuniverse5240]

Whenever I see Vileplume I can’t help but that of that Vileplume from the anime with the British accent.

[@cintronproductions9430]

I thought it had a Southern accent. XD

[@unfunnyyenjen3611]

I don’t think that’s a British accent... And I’m British...

[@blackdot105]

Come again?

[@nixuniverse5240]

Well it sounded British to me idk

[@markusoreos.233]

Vaah-yooh-ploomm

[@mikesimbana7637]

Vileplume Gen 1: *exists* "Unfortunately": Its free real estate

[@Lightpaladin720]

Ahh Vileplume, remember using this Mon back in the days of frlg

[@magmarman2633]

Can't relate, I always used Venu

[@itsnotben570]

Yeah I’m using and oddish in my Pokémon red nuzlocke

[@GabenC]

Vileplume: Who are you? Venusaur: Im you but stronger

[@MontyMonferno]

Was just watching FSG when you posted this :D.

[@snapclub8751]

We finally got Vileplume. Now we need Bellosum.

[@allewis4008]

Very yes.

[@canaldobesouroazul9180]

Bellossom always was garbage.

[@darter9000]

Unfortunately

[@yaboidragonitehere1137]

@@canaldobesouroazul9180 here is the another unfortunately

[@canaldobesouroazul9180]

@@yaboidragonitehere1137 Vileplume is not as bad as Bellossom.

[@speedyav46]

Despite it's performances I always loved Vileplume. If I used Venusaur it was almost always offensive except when I was testing out Amnesia Mega Venusaur. Vileplume was always a great defensive and support pokemon. When it got Strength Sap in gen 7 I was overjoyed honestly. Such a great self healing move and another great way to annoy people. This gen After You is such a great move on it and others can use it better but Pollen Puff is a great option to heal Team Members which makes it even more annoying. It can't be stopped with Taunt either and deals damage. I feel Venusaur got alot more tools though like Weather Ball again and Earth Power. Back when I battled last year Vileplume showed why he was a true mvp. He stood toe to toe against Dracovish and won. I hope to see Vileplume get even better though and more love that it deserves.

[@sagacious03]

Good video! Thanks for uploading!

[@arhardar6873]

4 minutes late finally here without notifications! Also False Swipe Gaming your content is amazing don't stop making this!

[@THEGOAT-qc5si]

How Good was Vileplume actually? Hm idk, couldve been ok, definitely not OU "UNFORTUNATELY" ... :(

[@ArmageddonAngel]

I guess we need to vote in Belossom for next week.

[@thebigbean8783]

I'm glad vileplume found it's place. I love that boi and hearing he's good is a dub in my book

[@energysynergy5453]

I was SO excited to see Vileplume!!! Oddish is my all time favorite Pokemon and seeing the original fully evolved is great

[@Matt-ub5yc]

how i'd buff vileplume 1.HP75

[@yarc9]

venasuar does that

[@thisisaclown8497]

How GOOD was Amoonguss ACTUALLY?

[@AdmiralBobbery123]

How good was Amoongus: The MOVIE

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@AdmiralBobbery123 LMAO U TRIED TO WISH IT FOR XD

[@ryukthedarkrai4259]

AdmiralBobbery123 How GOOD was Landorus ACTUALLY? The TV Series

[@KeertikaAndFallenTree]

I don't know what's worse, vileplume's sludgebomb animation in gen 2 or Venusaur's eyes in every attack from gen 1 to 3.

[@twicepilled]

Idk why but your voice perfectly suits these types of videos and it's so soothing im so fucking wierd ajajajjajaskjsjs

[@wideMac7]

I’m surprised the SpA buff it got in gen 7 wasn’t mentioned considering it would’ve been a contributing factor to its power

[@raymondrennock534]

Have you considered ever making a video that covers how certain mons that generally fall short in the normal Smogon tiers change in the Monotype format, or vice versa? For example, in Monotype (Poison Specific), Vileplume has a very solid spot for any poison team thanks to it's typing helping against Earth teams as well as it's nice tools that couldn't otherwise be filled as easily even by Venusaur.

[@MortenLongbottom]

Thanks for this. Vileplume is my favorite Pokemon since 1999.

[@jonathanmiddleton890]

yooo i'm early haha i know this video will be amazing

[@Snaq_Paq]

YES! FINALLY! CARL GETS HIS OWN VIDEO!

[@spacepirate3386]

Ah yes, Vileplume, aka Nuptup, the undisputed MVP in ProJared’s Nuzlocke Run of Fire Red. She is pretty straight baller.

[@thomasborta6559]

Omg yes someone else knows about nuptup

[@DYhalto250]

All hail lord nuptup

[@behindthesmile1276]

Saying Nuptup is oddly satisfying

[@gakk8658]

Vileplume is a Nuzlocke champion, it's why it's one of my favorite pokemon. You're almost assured to get it in any game it's in, too. It's recovery and bulk is always useful and the poison type is useful against most games' huge number of fighting trainers.

[@RandalfElVikingo]

Was Projared the dude that was molesting a minor or something like that?

[@cambailey7477]

One of the great Pokémon Snap participants. We love you Vileplume.

[@randomlantern]

Really glad that my favourite Grass-Poison type is actually good in its own competitive tiers!

[@danielscully449]

Why does vileplume tap its foot when attacking

[@dumbb6178]

It grooving

[@Doublemonk0506]

@@dumbb6178, it grooves to the best of coffin Dance

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@Doublemonk0506 imagine if coffin dance was a actual move, it would be ghost or dark XXDD *For God's sake let that not be fucking real, just no*

[@MegaGeewee]

He thinkin

[@GM.Nobody]

Mr Rime before it was cool. No pun intended

[@MrJohnReviews]

Did we forget that Vileplume also was the MVP in Pro Jared´s Pokemon Fire Red Nuzlocke? That Boi carried the whole game

[@thomasborta6559]

I loved nuptup

[@beshrug9828]

Kellen opening videos with the big old UNFORTUNATELY never ceases to put a smile on my face

[@flurl6318]

I think it might be really interesting to talk about some pokemon in the monotype metagame. It could increase the length of some of the shorter vids

[@Jollofmuncher2000]

How good was Hypno actually? We gotta finish the gen 1 mons

[@NicofTime...]

Hypno is a fan favorite in darker sites

[@theraginginfernape9496]

@@NicofTime... Boris noborhys would like a word

[@AyuNico]

community tab

[@cultofmalgus1310]

Will always be my favorite pokemon. Dont care what anyone says I love this guy! :D

[@Cobalt957]

Ya it is the best gen 1 mon. But not the best grass type. There is one gen 5 mon which also has a fairy type...

[@fabricioduarte4061]

Mine too

[@mesisnas]

I'm waiting for the second upload today 😃

[@felixlee9645]

Same

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@use code nation I bet is that weak and frail bellosom XD

[@Eeveethegamer26]

Vileplume is a cool 'mon tbh. Despite it's competitive use, I use it regularly in playthroughs

[@jwanie366]

Honestly surprised that you covered Vileplume in Gen 8 VGC, despite it not even having a notable finish. Can’t wait for the meta to change after the DLC comes out!

[@fist-of-doom487]

I can already see some shifts with Pokémon like Slowbro and the New Bird Trio actually seem intimidating.

[@sleazymeezy]

Dlc for gen 8 makes me sad. We've never had it before, just finish the game gamefreak ):

[@fist-of-doom487]

@@sleazymeezy yeah we have. Even as far back as Gen 2. You’d take the cartridge to a special store for an event where they unlock special items, Pokémon and story events. They’re just being more modern about it finally.

[@leonardofarias8843]

@@fist-of-doom487 And its more pratical than a third version

[@andrawthecantdraw5045]

Finally this Pokémon is one of the best in nuzlockes I need to know how it fares in competitive

[@thomasborta6559]

Nuptup

[@draconicimperium2713]

Had a great time in gen 7 with Vileplume before the ban! NU became my favorite tier for a while because of it.

[@nikkis.2066]

Vileplume is still my fav Pokemon, dun care about it's tier status. It's so cute AND based off of a Corpse Flower that literally secretes a substance that smells like an actual rotting corpse.

[@yuakim]

Yay! Another Vileplume fan!

[@togakhan1274]

Though it was said throughout the video that venusaur strictly Outclassees Vileplum but even in current OU you can get some mileage out of Vileplume due it checking zeraora and conkeldurr with strenth sap. True that vileplume is nowhere near chlorophyll Venusaur now with it's shiny new weatherball too but vileplume is better at defense in some situations only due to strength sap. Now here is to hoping that Venusaur doesn't gain strength sap in future.

[@kellenrist3973]

I actually really enjoy how absurdly good Vileplume is in lower tiers. Always fun to hear that Pokemon who couldn't cut it in OU had a good life anyway.

[@SirAthiro]

THANK YOU PATREONS!!! YOU THE REAL MVP!!!!

[@apersonowo307]

When I hear playing offense while on defense I just imagine the rest of the team behind a wall while vileplume is just flying at the enemy

[@hoshi314]

Dat gen 4 part with the frowning sprite when you say tragedy struck actually stung for me even though vileplume is not my favorite

[@montoyarn]

Also maybe we can get ferrothorn in here, you mention him every time gen 5 comes around

[@r3io4mf]

Ferrothorn: the movie

[@matthaisstupidus]

Ferrothorn: The Book: The Manga: The Anime: The Game: The Movie: A tale of how one mon became immortalized into competitive OU history. Starring: Al.KAZAM, S.K.Armory, C.O.R.Viknight, Ty/Ranitar, APEXTOX, W.H.Rotom, ProNinja, Garius Chomp, and LANDO T

[@r3io4mf]

@@matthaisstupidus cleft fable

[@chocotokenxreturns6126]

The fact these newer videos are doing Gen 8 features, okay!! 👏👏👀

[@krishhiranandani7875]

Who wants to bet today isn't a double upload

[@SSJ2Pikachu]

How OUTCLASSED BY VENUSAUR was Vileplume ACTUALLY? Also I like that he is self-aware about saying unfortunately all the time and now making a gag of it :D If Vileplume had Quiver Dance Venusaur would have serious competition. Then Venusaur's only advantage would be its higher bulk and immediate speed which would keep it as the superior Growth user. Or a strong STAB that raises speed. Like Rapid Spin does now only Rapid Spin still isn't super strong.

[@Sol_Calibre]

Honestly? It's been quite bad throughout but recently in VGC i've found it to be super cheese and useful because its moveset can disrupt SO much. Venusaur is more offensive but Vileplume is a way better support option.

[@christianlepe3405]

Vileplume. My favorite Grass-Type 💪🏽🌱

[@DigiTism]

Could you do a video explaining the affects of the special split on the meta game. And, how did team preview effect the meta game? Could you also do a video on the status effect mechanics in each gen’s meta?

[@butteredsalmonella]

0:30 **Vileplume cries in HGSS / BW2's PWT**

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

Vileplume, the one who hides in Venusaur's shadow

[@righteouself9928]

Tbh if you squint hard enough vileplume could be the flower on venusaurs back just sayin

[@yaboidragonitehere1137]

You appear in almost every video

[@glennrugar9248]

I find it great vileplume and bellossom had a rivalry. You know those two Oddish stood there eyeing each other. Measuring each other up

[@lovethatdarkness]

I used to use Vileplume as a counter to Groudon/Primal Groudon. If regular Groudon, BAM, instant Solar Beam. If Primal, I play the defense game, leech seed and strength sap especially if it is a Sword Dance user.

[@KhangLe-in7vw]

Can you do how good was Golurk next?

[@bloemkoolendestreetgang450]

We might as well wrap up all of gen 1 with the last few remaining mons, how GOOD was Primeape ACTUALLY?

[@lyokowarrior2545]

And Arbok too!

[@cintronproductions9430]

@@lyokowarrior2545 Primape is fairly good in lower tiers, but sadly Arbok is absolute garbage, which is sad cuz it looks badass. I would personally give Arbok stat buffs in Attack and Speed, and maybe give it some more bulk, and maybe also a Dark type to reduce its weaknesses to just Ground.

[@gengarzilla1685]

We need to chat about Venomoth.

[@lyokowarrior2545]

@@cintronproductions9430 is my dream

[@yaboidragonitehere1137]

@@cintronproductions9430 even venomoth outclasses arbok gen 2 venomoth was uu. But there it was banned. So it dropped to nu. It was excellent

[@dungeonmaster3464]

When I saw this I thought to myself, "this has to be the last fully evolved gen 1 pokemon he hasn't covered yet". Then I looked at the national dex. Butterfree, Raticate, Fearow, Arbok, Venomoth, Primape, Farfetch'd, Dodrio, Hypno, Electrode, Kingler, Hitmonchan, Lickitung, Seaking, Mr. Mime. Given, I don't need a video to know how half of them turned out.

[@forrest4datrees547]

I very much enjoyed this episode, maybe it's cause I have a soft spot for Vileplume but, I watch every Sunday morning so thank you.

[@sandrahwu]

*sees that Vileplume’s SpA got buffed* Well what do you know, looks like GF does know how to properly buff ‘mons all along (laughs in Staraptor’s SpD “buff”).

[@goGothitaLOL]

*laughs harder in Roserade's Def buff*

[@sebarsht12]

Cries that Nidoqueen got Atk buff instead of SpA buff

[@lynxfresh5214]

Cryogonal: "At least I can survive bullet and mach punches with my major DEF buff, right!?!"

[@goGothitaLOL]

@@sebarsht12 same with Nidoking, but he's kinda already strong with Life Orb and Sheer Force

[@sebarsht12]

@@goGothitaLOL Though you would notice, both Nidos do more damage with LO and SF using their special movesets; Earth Power, Sludge Wave, Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, Flamethrower etc. I mention Nidoqueen specifically since Nidoking having Megahorn gives reason to fun physical, Nidoqueen (If I remember FSG video correctly) prefers Black Sludge and runs Stealth Rock and/or Toxic Spikes with its two STABs, usually always Earth Power and Sludge Wave so the SpA buff would have mattered

[@sashasscribbles]

Rn strength sap is an amazing tool so it has its niche, I'd just maybe give it more HP and sp def to make it truely bulky. That and maybe giving it leech seed back alongside effect spore

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

Is ridiculously handy, there should be more moves for other types to balance this

[@speedyav46]

It does have Leech Seed back, it's an egg move now. More Hp and sp def would help out and maybe a little more defense.

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@speedyav46 bruh, almost all grass types has that move, the main stalling move for sweeps with non evolved Pokemon lmfao

[@speedyav46]

@@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619 I didn't say Vileplume was the only one that got it. I just said it got the move back by egg move. I know alot of grass types get the move. I used alot of grass types but my favorite poison and grass is Vileplume. Venusaur and Roserade are second and third.

[@thewolfofthestars1847]

Can I just say I love Vileplume's fainting animation from Gen 1 lmao. It just sinks right into the ground

[@tropposcontato1948]

Let me tell you... I'M IN LOVE WITH YOU, THANKS! Been waiting for this for so long...

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

Ahem, GAYYYYY

[@tropposcontato1948]

@@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619 yes:)