How GOOD were Rhydon & Rhyperior ACTUALLY? - History of Rhydon & Rhyperior in Competitive Pokemon

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False Swipe Gaming

False Swipe Gaming

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Rhydon! The Drill Pokemon! How good was the first Pokemon to ever be created? Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Rhydon & Rhyperior to find out!
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DISCLAIMERS ON FORMATS COVERED:
Notice I said POPULAR formats, meaning a format where there is a significant amount of people who compete in it for tournaments and so on and so forth. Now Popular does not mean official even though two of the formats I will be covering were official formats being Japan Nintendo Cup and VGC, but it is an indicator of what a good portion of competitive players thought was “optimal” at the time. Also sometimes the Pokemon Battle Historia doesn't provide enough information to talk about certain Pokemon so I add Smogon analysis to make sense of it. This is pretty rare though.
To the people asking why I don't cover Smogon Singles for Gens 1 and 2: It wouldn't really be a history video if I covered those because online Smogon gen 1 meta to my knowledge wasn't actually played until late 2000s. I wanted to cover tournaments/competitive battling that was actually played during the early years of Pokemon (late 90s).
To the people asking why I cover Smogon at all for singles: To my knowledge, Smogon was the most popular format for Gens 3-5 and held a number of tournaments throughout the years. As for Gen 6, I am not covering Battle Spot Singles because there is more information and explanations about sets being used relative to their own meta on Smogon. In other words, there are few written analyses about Battle Spot Pokemon besides the Top tiers and I would like to avoid theorycrafting because it may have a hint of bias (though I theorycraft if I REALLY couldn't find information on a certain Pokemon). The keyword here is explanations. Though I did find statistics of most Pokemon used and most moves used, there wasn't really any explanations on why. Also the few Pokemon I did find analysis of for Top Tier Battle Spot Singles had very similar move sets to the Smogon OU sets anyway.
For the record, I do not care what rules or formats people play their battles by nor am I saying these formats are the only formats that should be played. The way you play Pokemon is between you and your opponent and I will not fault you for using evasion or whatever, I just like examining popular tournament formats.
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@FalseSwipeGaming
@FalseSwipeGaming 7 жыл бұрын
Whoops. Totally meant to say mega drain in gen 1 for exeguttor not giga drain. Giga drain wasn't out yet
@martiros8819
@martiros8819 7 жыл бұрын
False Swipe Gaming do walrein please
@z-powered-nathan
@z-powered-nathan 7 жыл бұрын
False Swipe Gaming ok thanks for the clear up
@brendanirvine6088
@brendanirvine6088 7 жыл бұрын
Hey can you do Garchomp, or is it too far in the fens? ?
@brendanirvine6088
@brendanirvine6088 7 жыл бұрын
*gens
@z-powered-nathan
@z-powered-nathan 7 жыл бұрын
Do onix/steelix next
@lorddarkrai5753
@lorddarkrai5753 4 жыл бұрын
Rhyperior: My Attack , HP and Defense are so high nothing is going to stop me. Grass Knot: I'm about to end this man's whole career
@tomety_tcg2073
@tomety_tcg2073 4 жыл бұрын
Solid rock ability:Hi
@rhen09calonzo64
@rhen09calonzo64 4 жыл бұрын
But when trick room comes Im about to end this man's career
@lorddarkrai5753
@lorddarkrai5753 4 жыл бұрын
@@rhen09calonzo64 Not if the opposing Pokemon is holding an Iron Ball or a Lagging Tail
@rhen09calonzo64
@rhen09calonzo64 4 жыл бұрын
Okay then lets see hmmmm Sticky web boi
@machina5
@machina5 4 жыл бұрын
@@tomety_tcg2073 Solid Rock isn't going to keep it's 55 SpDef ass from dying to a 120 power special grass move lmao
@ShadyHitchhiker
@ShadyHitchhiker 7 жыл бұрын
The Dinosaurs weren't nerfed, but the meta-game changed to be heavily weather focused after the Giant Meteor update, and they were at a big disadvantage during Persistent Ash Cloud. Competitive players started running small critter teams because of their smaller upkeep costs and Dinosaur users transitioned into maining small feathered birds instead.
@dlaek3906
@dlaek3906 7 жыл бұрын
ShadyHitchhiker haha
@IceSpoon
@IceSpoon 7 жыл бұрын
That was the most pokémon-esque explanation of dinos' extinction ever lol
@josi2407
@josi2407 7 жыл бұрын
upkeep cost? are we talking magic here?
@joshhemm
@joshhemm 7 жыл бұрын
ayyy
@cameroncurrent2383
@cameroncurrent2383 7 жыл бұрын
Thyd Simon lol yep
@andrewlee7755
@andrewlee7755 5 жыл бұрын
If it got a mega, it should become a full ground type. If it stays a rock/ground type, it would need speed to be super effective.
@Nosretep
@Nosretep 4 жыл бұрын
Not it doesn't Mega Rhyperior Ability Sandstream 115 160 150 55 105 50 Get's a Sp.Def Boost off of Sandstorms.
@andrewlee7755
@andrewlee7755 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nosretep In a game where firepower is ever increasing, simply maxing out stats with a bad defensive typing isn't going to cut it. And what happens when they cancel the sandstorm? I'm not saying that your idea would be bad, with good stats like that and sandstream it would be very good. But why bother using it when there are better options? It would always play second fiddle to Mega Tyranitar.
@Nosretep
@Nosretep 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewlee7755 Then give it Contrary with Superpower.
@andrewlee7755
@andrewlee7755 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nosretep We can't just keep throwing abilities at it and expect them to stick, especially if they aren't thematic. Why not just give every pokemon contrary then?
@Nosretep
@Nosretep 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewlee7755 Why does Regirock get Clear Body,Traunt Durant,Defeatiat Archeops,Limber Stunfisk,Levitate Rotom-Fan? A lot of Pokemon get abilities that don't make sense or a borderline useless. Heck Serperior even has Contrary.
@MegaSuperfatguy
@MegaSuperfatguy 2 жыл бұрын
I used to use Rhyperior as my "dragon buster" before fairy typing came out. Bred it with solid rock and Dragon Rush. More than one person accused me of hacking Dragon Rush onto it since they didn't know you could breed the move onto Rhyhorn. Also worked great for fighting Cynthia.
@LLLplus
@LLLplus 8 ай бұрын
I just used Avalanche for Cynthia
@williethenerfherder2193
@williethenerfherder2193 7 ай бұрын
I just give rhyperior ice punch.
@orshteinbok7762
@orshteinbok7762 4 жыл бұрын
This vid honestly needs a remake, Rhyperiors gen 8 VGC dominance cannot be ignored
@gamechanger700
@gamechanger700 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad Urshifu and Rillaboom ruined it's dominance
@goldenhydreigon4727
@goldenhydreigon4727 3 жыл бұрын
@@gamechanger700 Weezing: Sup? Everyone: Weezing? Pfft, that's not a threa- WAIT IT HAS NEUTRALIZING GAS! *Regigigas: My body is Regi.*
@haka-katyt7439
@haka-katyt7439 3 жыл бұрын
@@goldenhydreigon4727 yeah the big G is now a threat in vgc
@hellothere4892
@hellothere4892 2 жыл бұрын
@@goldenhydreigon4727 Ah yes, A fellow connoisseur. Terminal Montage I presume ?
@Antoncool3000
@Antoncool3000 4 жыл бұрын
1:54 WHAT THE FRICK ARE THOSE EYES
@werh227
@werh227 4 жыл бұрын
Getting high on his own supply
@milosherino
@milosherino 4 жыл бұрын
LOLOL!
@joehawaiianbathtoba9429
@joehawaiianbathtoba9429 4 жыл бұрын
He’s high
@guardian4452
@guardian4452 4 жыл бұрын
First time?
@shady8045
@shady8045 4 жыл бұрын
i remember one poketuber (i forget her name) complaining about that and saying that was why venasaur was her least favorite, it kinda made me sad but i guess i can kinda understand.
@akhilesh368
@akhilesh368 4 жыл бұрын
Just wait till gen 8 Rhyperior, you'll finally shine.
@rhinastocroc-boulet5189
@rhinastocroc-boulet5189 4 жыл бұрын
He need some buffs though. (Solid Rock Amelioration(50% reduction instead of 25%), A recovery move, Special defence boost, make Rock Wrecker viable) And nothing for Rhydon because he's a idiot. (Ok, maybe give him Head Smash, but that's it)
@SSJ2Pikachu
@SSJ2Pikachu 4 жыл бұрын
@@rhinastocroc-boulet5189 Why are you insulting Rhydon?
@rhinastocroc-boulet5189
@rhinastocroc-boulet5189 4 жыл бұрын
@@SSJ2Pikachu(Wait, Pikachu can be a Super Sayian?? Weird.) But, for your question... (I think Rhydon is the worst member of his evolution line, that's it)
@SSJ2Pikachu
@SSJ2Pikachu 4 жыл бұрын
@@rhinastocroc-boulet5189 It can't be that bad to insult it.
@rhinastocroc-boulet5189
@rhinastocroc-boulet5189 4 жыл бұрын
@@SSJ2Pikachu It was not serious.
@user-rf5px3gh3p
@user-rf5px3gh3p 5 жыл бұрын
1:54 i guess venusaur’s got a different type of leaf on its back...
@chupacadabra5161
@chupacadabra5161 4 жыл бұрын
Weedusaur
@grandsoul891
@grandsoul891 3 жыл бұрын
Lamo
@gachasouf7557
@gachasouf7557 3 жыл бұрын
Man look at the eyes
@rithakc
@rithakc 3 жыл бұрын
@@grandsoul891 laughing ass my off
@MrcreeperDXD777
@MrcreeperDXD777 3 жыл бұрын
he smoked oddish
@gengarzilla1685
@gengarzilla1685 3 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking this episode needs a remake. I haven't fully looked into how it happened, but Rhyperior got into OU in Gen 8. It'd definitely be good to see Kellen chat about.
@dramaticScar
@dramaticScar 3 жыл бұрын
Also Rhydon has a a lot of usage with an eviolite...
@Smart1529
@Smart1529 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah this Pokemon has a good run in Gen 8, ever since they got rid of Hidden power which benefits special attackers and of course cutting some of the Pokemon from the game. It really helped it to the point it had high usage. Plus we cannot ignore what it did in early Sword and Shield VGC
@RobinBooze468
@RobinBooze468 2 жыл бұрын
And Rhydon with eviolite was way better than Rhyperior in gen 5 VGC, it had way more placements in 2013
@jofujino
@jofujino Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure about how it ran in singles, but at least in doubles Rhypherior was way stronger in Gen 8 because of the combination of weakness policy and dynamax. It was one of the best weakness policy users, and terrifying when you got it off under trick room even with a bulky water since so many bulky waters could be OHKOed by a dynamax move even after one intimidate.
@TheStrongestBaka
@TheStrongestBaka 7 жыл бұрын
YOUR HORN IS THE DRILL THAT WILL PIERCE THE HEAVENS! W-what do you say, Horn Drill is banned? Smogon confirmed for anti-spirals.
@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283
@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283 7 жыл бұрын
TheStrongestBaka Row Row
@maskofice9432
@maskofice9432 7 жыл бұрын
Fight the power
@homemhomemcriancahomemmulh3873
@homemhomemcriancahomemmulh3873 7 жыл бұрын
ROW ROW FIGHT DAH POWA
@mid7752
@mid7752 4 жыл бұрын
WHAT YOU GONNA DO, DO WHAT YOU WANNA DO, JUST BREAK THE RULES AND YOU'LL SEE THROUGH
@pokeplayerHQ
@pokeplayerHQ 7 жыл бұрын
Even in Gen 7, an Assault Vest Rhyperior has proven to be good in a Doubles Trick Room team. It has proven to be a great late game sweeper for me.
@mohanadalameer3482
@mohanadalameer3482 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can do flygon? Don't mind my profile picture that is just a coincidence
@clodcat5550
@clodcat5550 7 жыл бұрын
Shiny:Hi!
@misha2274
@misha2274 7 жыл бұрын
Mohanad Alameer you LIER!!!!!!!
@szkonk
@szkonk 7 жыл бұрын
Mohanad Alameer yassss
@megaflygon1348
@megaflygon1348 7 жыл бұрын
wow I looked at this comment thought I typed it.
@mohanadalameer3482
@mohanadalameer3482 7 жыл бұрын
Mega Flygon! And I thought I was the only flygon fan here Good thing I was wrong
@Blade-hf9po
@Blade-hf9po 6 жыл бұрын
I remember using Rhyperior sometimes in Gen 4. That thing could tank anything Physical you threw at it, and with solid rock I mean anything.
@INTJ791
@INTJ791 Жыл бұрын
hippowdon is better physical tank, less weakness
@spiciestbirb
@spiciestbirb 10 ай бұрын
​@@INTJ791also slack off. If rhyperior had slack off there's an OK chance it could be DPP OU
@shabibmahab
@shabibmahab 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve used Rhyperior for so long that I forgot how awesome Rhydon is too
@Smart1529
@Smart1529 4 жыл бұрын
There is still a part of me that thinks Rhydon didn't need an evolution because it has good stats and moves but at the same time I'm fine with Rhyperior. Some people just need to get over some Pokémon due to appearance and just appreciate why they were even there in the first place. Not every Pokémon gets rewarded with an evolution look at Ledian and Ariados
@RBatman5000
@RBatman5000 4 жыл бұрын
@@Smart1529, I think it does deserve it, because unlike those bugs, rhydon was meant to be good
@thecriticalghost4626
@thecriticalghost4626 4 жыл бұрын
@@Smart1529 No
@Smart1529
@Smart1529 4 жыл бұрын
@@thecriticalghost4626 what do you mean no. No that you don't like a certain Pokemon by looks or what?
@thecriticalghost4626
@thecriticalghost4626 4 жыл бұрын
@@Smart1529 no
@corenlavolpe6143
@corenlavolpe6143 7 жыл бұрын
Crobat please. We've all been waiting for the first bat mon!
@josefarias5216
@josefarias5216 7 жыл бұрын
Coren la Volpe yes please! I love Crobat :D
@jordansims7838
@jordansims7838 7 жыл бұрын
truth!
@laurijokinen6120
@laurijokinen6120 7 жыл бұрын
Coren la Volpe no love for god? Weezing
@runegodguthix
@runegodguthix 7 жыл бұрын
crobat has always been welcome on my teams
@tpsplatinum3562
@tpsplatinum3562 6 жыл бұрын
I really love the look of the battles in Colosseum and XD Gale of Darkness. They cook dark and gritty, and I enjoy that ascetic.
@avalonaiii7177
@avalonaiii7177 6 жыл бұрын
rhydon deez nuts
@nerothewateruser8030
@nerothewateruser8030 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my god...
@sonicgen1
@sonicgen1 5 жыл бұрын
K
@gabica4207
@gabica4207 5 жыл бұрын
thank you kanye, very cool
@phylippezimmermannpaquin2062
@phylippezimmermannpaquin2062 5 жыл бұрын
Wouldnt that cause massive recoil
@zenmaster8826
@zenmaster8826 5 жыл бұрын
Haah!!! Gottemm!!!!
@BoggarthVT
@BoggarthVT 4 жыл бұрын
He's a trick room God in gen 8 vgc.
@Nonikt
@Nonikt 4 жыл бұрын
He is a beast. Too bad rillaboom and tsareena put him to the ground with a grassy Glide. Not to mention busted Urshifu, especially rapid style. That thing should be banned. His ability and his signature move are broken. A 3 hitting, substitute Buster, 100% guaranteed crits move that bypasses protect is not okay.
@uhdudhue6549
@uhdudhue6549 4 жыл бұрын
Nonikt urshifu needs to be banned not only in VGC, but in the Geneva convention under crimes against humanity as well.
@harshjain3122
@harshjain3122 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nonikt ikr?
@r3io4mf
@r3io4mf 4 жыл бұрын
I used metal burst to cheese random rillabooms and toxapex, even better if hippowdon was there as well
@r3io4mf
@r3io4mf 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nonikt the worse one is single style, it turns from weak to psychic to scares the living daylights out of psychics
@Jacob-jg6cd
@Jacob-jg6cd 3 жыл бұрын
The first Pokémon and still one of the coolest designs. They had the right idea making early Pokémon more dinosaur themed.
@diogomontesso6970
@diogomontesso6970 7 жыл бұрын
It's a sad fate for my one of my favourite Rock type pokemon but, eh, No helping the meta I guess. Here's hoping for some more info on pokemon who were very potent in Gen 2,, like Heracross, Marowak, Cloyster... Mostly heracross for now.
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 7 жыл бұрын
Chills Yes, I want to see Scyther, Heracross, and Pinsir videos to go with the Scizor vid! :3
@AlphaladZXA
@AlphaladZXA 5 жыл бұрын
All 3 exist now
@aalamvirsinghdhaliwal1701
@aalamvirsinghdhaliwal1701 3 жыл бұрын
Eh Rhyperior is pretty good in gen 8 VGC now
@sersmiles1635
@sersmiles1635 7 жыл бұрын
Herracross pls
@FlipinFlopper
@FlipinFlopper 7 жыл бұрын
tentacruel
@kendellhernandez238
@kendellhernandez238 7 жыл бұрын
Flygon
@blasterfox188
@blasterfox188 7 жыл бұрын
Kendell Hernandez mew
@d-dan-dan7744
@d-dan-dan7744 7 жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed for Heracross! =) ... Sorry
@LionsEatNoobs
@LionsEatNoobs 7 жыл бұрын
Holy shit. I never knew that normal types were immune to body slam's paralysis effect
@amaanverma8248
@amaanverma8248 3 жыл бұрын
In gen1
@mrdanthesnowman
@mrdanthesnowman 7 жыл бұрын
Rhyperior has been my favorite of the new evolutions they introduced in Gen 4.
@azuresaiyan9005
@azuresaiyan9005 2 жыл бұрын
This video desperately needs a remake. Rhydon still had a niche after Rhyperior, not going into detail on Rhyperior and Rhydon's UU and other tier runs, and Gen 8.
@sammydray5919
@sammydray5919 7 жыл бұрын
How about Heracross?? :]
@addition2127
@addition2127 7 жыл бұрын
Sammy Dray yes!
@4ever430
@4ever430 7 жыл бұрын
Silverheracross gaming yes for heracross is a good idea.
@Maliviolent
@Maliviolent 7 жыл бұрын
HE-RA-CROSS HE-RA-CROSS HE-RA-CROSS (Chanting)
@ErraticMagics
@ErraticMagics 7 жыл бұрын
Please let this win instead of freaking Shuckle.
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective 7 жыл бұрын
Well that shouldn't be too hard. :) Gen II = Meh (Mediocre movepool) Gen III = Smash and Smash and Smash, oh did someone day choice band? Gen IV = Close Combat, you say? Smash and Smash and Smash. Gen V = My how times have changed... SMASH AND SMASH AND SMASH AND SMASH! Gen VI =
@alexandretorres4482
@alexandretorres4482 3 жыл бұрын
This video needs a update, because in Gen 8 VGC first series, Rhyperior was one of the Trick Room Kings with Dynamax. Really hated to play vs it. Great Video as always!!!
@krispyboi2519
@krispyboi2519 4 жыл бұрын
I remember playing pokemon colosseum with my cousin, he nearly swept my team and i could only knock out his Mewtwo, his other pokemon were Electabuzz Zapdos Moltres Articuno and Charizard. I swept the rest of his team without taking any damage now Rhydon is my favorite pokemon.
@Darisprites
@Darisprites 7 жыл бұрын
I'm voting for Nidoqueen or Heracross! Keep up the informative content, man. Really saves people from reading up on Smogon for hours on end.
@matthewmcmullen9099
@matthewmcmullen9099 6 жыл бұрын
My Rhyperior Set 1:Stone Edge/Rock Blast 2:Earthquake 3:Megahorn/Poison Jab/Fire Punch/Crunch/Hammer Arm 4:Ice Punch/ Aqua Tail
@ronswanson7371
@ronswanson7371 5 жыл бұрын
Matthew Mcmullen 👌
@kate2582
@kate2582 7 жыл бұрын
Why does venasaur look high in generation 1?
@mrinfinity5557
@mrinfinity5557 7 жыл бұрын
shuckle, dont fuckle with shuckle
@marioponce8482
@marioponce8482 7 жыл бұрын
Werster, right?
@mrinfinity5557
@mrinfinity5557 7 жыл бұрын
Mario Ponce dont know, dont care. its shuckle
@marioponce8482
@marioponce8482 7 жыл бұрын
Mr Infinity Yeah you're right.
@ILiekFishes
@ILiekFishes 7 жыл бұрын
It's time for shuckle to come out of his shell
@NeroAngelo616
@NeroAngelo616 7 жыл бұрын
Shuckle is shite.
@dragooncroft
@dragooncroft 7 жыл бұрын
How good was seadra/kingdra ACTUALLY? KEEPITGOING
@RisingJericho
@RisingJericho 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't Rhydon see a lot of use when Eviolite was introduced? I know I've seen articles covering it.
@armorbearer9702
@armorbearer9702 2 жыл бұрын
I heard that Rhydon was pretty vulnerable to Fire types as well. Because of its low SP. defense, many Fire types can finish it off with Fire Blast or Flamethrower.
@CalebCraft10
@CalebCraft10 7 жыл бұрын
I feel like I'm the only one who likes Rhyperior's design (at least depending on the angling).
@seki108
@seki108 7 жыл бұрын
I like it.
@bubblebeamm
@bubblebeamm 7 жыл бұрын
Inklink it looks like he is covered with bandaids
@Purpleyoshisinthesky
@Purpleyoshisinthesky 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a fan
@marcelohulse
@marcelohulse 7 жыл бұрын
Inklink He's one of my favourites
@AlphaStoutland
@AlphaStoutland 7 жыл бұрын
Inklink it's okay. Of the line, I personally like Rhyhorn's the best. It's cool and rocky without overdoing it...like all the rocks on Rhyperior xD
@WinterwoodzMC
@WinterwoodzMC 2 жыл бұрын
I can imagine how many people are making rhydon deez nutz jokes lol
@tacoandchill6550
@tacoandchill6550 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid like always! How about ampharos next?
@TheDeathmail
@TheDeathmail 4 жыл бұрын
You know, when I knew that Rhydon got 50 points added to it's Base Stat when it evolved, but it evenly distributed to every stat except Speed, I felt cheated... They should have just put all of that into Special Defense instead... and maybe even lowered it's Special Attack and put those points into Special Defense as well... Maybe then, it'd be more viable... and you could still have boosted it's Attack and HP by 10 points... I feel like Rhyperior wasn't given the boost it deserved...
@rhinastocroc-boulet5189
@rhinastocroc-boulet5189 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, Rhyperior deserve better stats (especially Special Defence) He can sacrifice Special Attack for that.
@rhinastocroc-boulet5189
@rhinastocroc-boulet5189 3 жыл бұрын
@Thx I hate it I imagine like this personally: HP: 125 Atk: 140 Def: 130 SpAtk: 30 SpDef: 90 Speed: 40
@gengarzilla1685
@gengarzilla1685 3 жыл бұрын
Sucks _defensively_ Ground and Rock is still surprisingly good in what they both hurt.
@rhinastocroc-boulet5189
@rhinastocroc-boulet5189 3 жыл бұрын
@@gengarzilla1685 Yes. They're like 25 Pokémon max who can resist both or something (out of pratically 900, it's very impressive)
@Smart1529
@Smart1529 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah 10 points on all stats except speed isn't much. But thank God for Solid Rock, that ability alone sells Rhyperior. Plus why would you run Golem when Rhyperior exist.
@TheOtherNeutrino
@TheOtherNeutrino 2 жыл бұрын
This episode can be redone where both Rhydon and Rhyperior can be covered in each Generation like you did for the Chansey/Blissey 1-hour long episode.
@nicholasmays4257
@nicholasmays4257 7 жыл бұрын
HERACROSS!!! HERACROSS!!!! HERACROSS!!!!
@adachisans5664
@adachisans5664 7 жыл бұрын
Rhyperior only exists to give rhydon a eviolite
@zodiac2701
@zodiac2701 7 жыл бұрын
so tru
@yeetymcspice5755
@yeetymcspice5755 7 жыл бұрын
bruh why u hating on rhyperior i understand people hate him its ur opinion but still
@Vegito_
@Vegito_ 7 жыл бұрын
So true
@Jabeke49
@Jabeke49 7 жыл бұрын
We hate rhyperior because it evolved an excellently made pokemon into a goofy orange one. At least that's what i think.
@yeetymcspice5755
@yeetymcspice5755 7 жыл бұрын
i personally do think rhyperior dosent look goofy okay well maybe a little okay well yea he does look goofy but even then goofy pokemon like wobuffet and fricken lickitung are liked the hater for rhyperior just gets higher and higher but its ur opinion not mine
@MRawesome202
@MRawesome202 5 жыл бұрын
What about eveolite rhydon? Its bulkier that rhyperior and its busted in sand
@Smart1529
@Smart1529 4 жыл бұрын
That's true but unfortunately Rhydon is vulnerable to getting hit with Knock off and limit its use with Eviolite only. Rhyperior can utilize more items and be more offense heavy which Rhydon can't do anymore
@thecriticalghost4626
@thecriticalghost4626 4 жыл бұрын
@@Smart1529 Yeah but talking about him would be nice
@Smart1529
@Smart1529 4 жыл бұрын
@@thecriticalghost4626 that is true, it's just a matter of which play style you prefer, offense or defense. Even if you want to use Rhydon for defense, he still lacks solid rock and Pokemon like Chansey is a better bulky Eviolite Pokémon. It's also got to do with which do you like more in design, Rhydon or Rhyperior and most people prefer Rhydon
@belimvasim143
@belimvasim143 4 жыл бұрын
@@Smart1529 yhe cause rillaboom grassy glide exist so..
@p2pselfpuppet796
@p2pselfpuppet796 4 жыл бұрын
It is viable in double VGC 2020
@cars0mega
@cars0mega 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Rhyperior is my favorite Pokémon,
@Darktrooper99
@Darktrooper99 6 жыл бұрын
Just increase Solid Rock from 1/4 to 1/2 damage taken from super effective moves and you have a good Pokémon being only weak to x2 water and x2 grass type moves.
@Eric-py8yy
@Eric-py8yy 3 жыл бұрын
Good, this could be given to every rock/ground
@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy 2 жыл бұрын
So only 2 weaknesses basically cool I would say thats too op, so 1/3 reduced from super effective
@Darktrooper99
@Darktrooper99 2 жыл бұрын
@@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy I wouldn’t say OP, because Water is a common type and its Speed and Sp. Defense is horrendous. Its good things are its great HP, Attack, Defense and two STAB typings that hit everything for at least neutral damage.
@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Darktrooper99 yea the only stuff it cant neutral hit with STAB is Breloom, Torterra, Flygon and Claydol (due to levitate)
@maninthetrenchcoat5603
@maninthetrenchcoat5603 7 жыл бұрын
Giga Drain didn't exist in Gen 1. Exeggutor would use Mega Drain to beat Rhydon
@Dampharos
@Dampharos 7 жыл бұрын
Can we discuss about the slowpoke family next?
@metalhamer1000
@metalhamer1000 7 жыл бұрын
Not covering LC.
@aweirdo259
@aweirdo259 7 жыл бұрын
viorel weber slowpoke FAMILY
@c.e.g8647
@c.e.g8647 7 жыл бұрын
viorel weber I think they mean Slowbro and Slowking, as it says slowpoke family not slowpoke itself.
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective 7 жыл бұрын
Slowbro is basically the asshole of bulky waters thanks to amazing coverage, bulk and the move Slack-Off. Whereas Slacking has almost always been a set-up mon in some regard either skill swapping onto slacking in gen III or setting trick room currently. Basically these guys are rough is what I'm saying.
@charliesmith1358
@charliesmith1358 6 жыл бұрын
Ryperior really needed that typing change. Rock Fighting or ground Fighting both could be pretty decent if you want to keep the duel type Or pure rock/ground would do better then their combination. Out of the 2 I'd maybe go Rock so the electric immunity lightning rod gives you isn't entirely useless.
@jonathano503
@jonathano503 4 жыл бұрын
Lightning rod is still great for redirection
@b99b12
@b99b12 7 жыл бұрын
How GOOD was Delibird ACTUALLY?
@PinClockFuntime
@PinClockFuntime 7 жыл бұрын
that'd make a good Christmas video
@Demon_of_Razgriz
@Demon_of_Razgriz 7 жыл бұрын
Neevkl_7 Z Splash? What does that do? Mega nothing? lol
@PinClockFuntime
@PinClockFuntime 7 жыл бұрын
Z-Splash raises your attack by 3 stages
@redpika6020
@redpika6020 7 жыл бұрын
Demon of Razgriz i'm not sure if you are joking or not...
@Demon_of_Razgriz
@Demon_of_Razgriz 7 жыл бұрын
Redpika it was a joke
@Marcusjnmc
@Marcusjnmc 7 жыл бұрын
Rhyperior is pretty damn good in VGC, it won a large regional in 15 & I'm looking forward to seeing how it does next year.
@SenSen130
@SenSen130 7 жыл бұрын
Crobat pls
@endermewtwogaming2817
@endermewtwogaming2817 7 жыл бұрын
can you please do slowbro? you could even do slowking in the same vid if you want
@Ryuthedeathangel
@Ryuthedeathangel 7 жыл бұрын
Rhyperior needs a Mega-Evolution, lol.
@Indigofrost
@Indigofrost 7 жыл бұрын
its sad but true, oh so very sad
@Aldrius
@Aldrius 7 жыл бұрын
They should just buff the hell out of Solid Rock.
@SSBBPlayListMaker
@SSBBPlayListMaker 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, pull an Aggron and change its type to something without the x4 weakness and and maybe keep Solid Rock and huge buffs to attack and defense. maybe even nerf its speed upon Mega Evolving so more points to other stats and so that its Trick Room usage becomes even better. It's not like its outspeeding anything as is so you might as well.
@laurijokinen6120
@laurijokinen6120 7 жыл бұрын
SSBBPlayListMaker Ground steel?
@RunicSSB
@RunicSSB 7 жыл бұрын
I hope Mega Rhyperior looks more like Rhyhorn, IMO that's the coolest looking of that evolution line.
@Jackolantirn
@Jackolantirn 6 жыл бұрын
Rhydon with Eviolite is a solid pick in ORAS. It's physical defense stat is boosted significantly, tanking many physical attacks with easy, while striking back with STAB Earthquake or Stone Edge for crazy damage, or simply set up Stealth Rocks. Also, in Doubles, it redirects electric attacks to itself with Lightning Rod ability. "When I Horn Drill, I Rhydon her all night~"
@kartiksharma2361
@kartiksharma2361 4 жыл бұрын
bruh solid rock weakness policy rhyperior with rock polish or in a trick room team is next level
@gumball2253
@gumball2253 6 жыл бұрын
Rhydon my Diglett
@Mr-Trox
@Mr-Trox 3 жыл бұрын
After you do that, let me Squirtle on your Jigglypuffs
@lookorionisonthesky605
@lookorionisonthesky605 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr-Trox rhydon my weedle
@rhett5058
@rhett5058 3 жыл бұрын
I’m Muking
@rhett5058
@rhett5058 3 жыл бұрын
Really, I’m about to bust a Chesnaut
@mlgmence2606
@mlgmence2606 3 жыл бұрын
I’m rhydon time to see this conversation
@shadycroby1253
@shadycroby1253 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe Crobat next?
@ahoy1014
@ahoy1014 7 жыл бұрын
Gimme a P! Gimme an O! Gimme a Porygon video already!
@PinClockFuntime
@PinClockFuntime 7 жыл бұрын
how would his evolutions be handled?
@ahoy1014
@ahoy1014 7 жыл бұрын
Likely the same way Chansey and Blissey were handled, only discussing the most used evolution.
@PinClockFuntime
@PinClockFuntime 7 жыл бұрын
problem is Porygon 2 and Porygon Z are completely different beasts who are both rather viable in their own right. It's more a Scyther Scizor thing.
@Iinneus
@Iinneus 7 жыл бұрын
The thing is, since Porygon-Z would only take up three generations of the video, it probably wouldn't make a very long vid on its own... BUT, if you were to pair it with Porygon, it would be weird because original Porygon is most similar to Porygon2, so those two should be together. So I vote for a whole Porygon mega video that encompasses all three.
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective 7 жыл бұрын
It's true, Porygon 2 is one of those eviolite users everyone really seems to like. Porygon Z ran trick room set-up didn't he?
@BigDnotimpressed
@BigDnotimpressed 7 жыл бұрын
Houndoom next!!!
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective 7 жыл бұрын
Red Dead Houndoom was awesome but it's usually been in UU or BL tier where it absolutely dominates. It's attack and speed stabs are too strong to ignore but it has it's share of counters. Generally it's a nasty plot sweeper and a mean mother fucker late game.
@oles9196
@oles9196 7 жыл бұрын
I like Houndoom and its very good in sunny day teams cauz you can spam solar beam with it. That kills its Ground, Water and stone threats!
@Hydroxoid
@Hydroxoid 7 жыл бұрын
red dread dragon 69 Houndoom is a fantastic pokemon, the only problem is its defense, it's horrible
@twistedash9431
@twistedash9431 3 жыл бұрын
1:55 bruh that Venasaur high or something??? look at its eyes 🤣
@eonshade6297
@eonshade6297 5 жыл бұрын
I really love Rhydon, but Golem's explosion is too cool
@gengarzilla1685
@gengarzilla1685 4 жыл бұрын
I have never been keen on Explosion.
@crisrey0799
@crisrey0799 7 жыл бұрын
How good was Kabutops?
@neoace2847
@neoace2847 7 жыл бұрын
Can you do kangaskhan or heracross
@doshaburiten3276
@doshaburiten3276 7 жыл бұрын
Could you do the Porygons ?
@hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853
@hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853 7 жыл бұрын
Yay! More support for the Porygon line! You know, I just had a random thought - an easy way to tell fans of the games from fans of the anime is to ask about Porygon. If they don't play the games, then they'll be unable to answer, but they'll probably know about Porygon if they play, especially if they're into competitive Pokémon; after all, Porygon2 is a monster.
@natnew32
@natnew32 7 жыл бұрын
but Porygon2/Porygon-Z are very different and occupy different roles; 2 is a bulky attacker and Z is a setup sweeper. in gen 5/6, they were even in the same tier. So, like scyther and scizor, he can't do both at once.
@hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853
@hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853 7 жыл бұрын
Fair enough. I still can't work out how to use Porygon-Z, to be honest. I mean, it could just be its design and how it looks like something Bethesda would program - fun but *really* buggy - but I always preferred Porygon2; it just looks, well, sleeker. Anyway, yeah, they're very different mons.
@FGenthusiast0052
@FGenthusiast0052 7 жыл бұрын
El Barno Until Gen 7: Scarfed/Specs/Life Orb Gen 7: the mentioned above + Z-Conversion PorygonZ is powerful, so you need to know how to use that on your advantage
@hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853
@hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853 7 жыл бұрын
Oh, thanks. Wasn't expecting that. I tried a few Scarf sets, but I couldn't figure out a good use for them at the time. I might try one later. And now for something completely different. I came up with a weird Aggron set a few months ago. Haven't tried it out yet, so I don't know how good it is - and it is rather experimental, so don't expect it to be amazing - but if anyone wants to use it, then go for it. "Trollgron" Aggron @ Assault Vest Rock Head Brave 4HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD Head Smash Power-Up Punch Iron Head Mud Slap
@alexdrake4081
@alexdrake4081 5 жыл бұрын
I know a lot of people hate Rhyperior, but I like it a lot
@Bigbaby950
@Bigbaby950 Жыл бұрын
Still so wild that rhydon can learn surf, thunder, ice beam, fire blast
@yuvvtrcvbyhn
@yuvvtrcvbyhn 7 жыл бұрын
Electabuzz/Electivire, that'd be a really neat contrast to this one!
@GenmuLVLX
@GenmuLVLX 7 жыл бұрын
How good was Heracross?
@shadowldrago
@shadowldrago 7 жыл бұрын
I think it might be interesting to see Blaziken's journey,
@mafiousbj
@mafiousbj 7 жыл бұрын
The perfect April Fools video would be to make Magikarp XD
@androsp9105
@androsp9105 7 жыл бұрын
How good was Agumon?
@somepony13
@somepony13 7 жыл бұрын
It's gotta be written like the old Smogon entry for it. Man, that article was Pokemon comedy gold.
@maninthetrenchcoat5603
@maninthetrenchcoat5603 7 жыл бұрын
They did Unown this year
@doubleace11554
@doubleace11554 6 жыл бұрын
MafiousBJ it was dunsparce lol
@masterblaster2678
@masterblaster2678 5 жыл бұрын
Checks and counters: Stop using an Old Rod. Made me smile.
@IFFB714
@IFFB714 9 ай бұрын
Could you imagine if Rhyperior was given the pseudo legendary base stat of 600 instead of the 535 that Rhyperior has. That means Rhyperior could get a extra 65 base stat to work with now picture this. A Rhyperior with 135: HP, 140: Attack, 130: Defense, 55: SP Attack, 100: SP Defense and 40: speed.
@rhinastocroc-boulet5189
@rhinastocroc-boulet5189 7 ай бұрын
Not me who would give it 160 base Attack instead of the HP Boost. Also Rock Wrecker as a Gigaton Hammer Clone (More likely Blood Moon in terms of Power, but still)
@SonicTwist75
@SonicTwist75 7 жыл бұрын
Golbat/Crobat next pls (batman would approve)
@Nsix4
@Nsix4 2 жыл бұрын
Dang I was hoping to see eviolite rhydon.
@javonlong6172
@javonlong6172 6 жыл бұрын
“Hey man even dinosaurs got nerfed out of existence”
@jameywatson8775
@jameywatson8775 7 жыл бұрын
I want to see Salamence next, it was pretty good ever since introduction in Gen 3 and received a Mega Evolution in Gen 6, so I definitely want Salamence to be next.
@KyleThePug
@KyleThePug 7 жыл бұрын
Heracross? *pause*
@drippinwet774
@drippinwet774 5 жыл бұрын
used Substitute!
@DJKacu.
@DJKacu. 7 жыл бұрын
Please do Kangaskhan next! :)
@SSJ2Pikachu
@SSJ2Pikachu 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the remake of this!!
@voltingmaster5458
@voltingmaster5458 4 жыл бұрын
Especially now that Rhyperior is in OU.
@StormCrownSr
@StormCrownSr 6 жыл бұрын
A Pokémon with 140 base attack is in rarely used... My mind is blown.
@deandregreene2587
@deandregreene2587 5 жыл бұрын
Stat wise: (If Rhyperior were to Mega Evolve) Type Rock/Ground HP: 115 >>> 115 (0) Attack: 140 >>> 160 (+20) Defense: 135 >>> 155 (+20) Special Attack: 55 >>> 55 (0) Special Defense: 55 >>> 115 (+60) Speed: 40 >>> 40 (0) Potential Abilities: Solid Rock, Lightning Rod, *Protector*, *Resilient Hide* Protector: Will shield an ally pokémon if ally is at low HP, but will take double damage from spread attacks. Resilient Hide: Damage received from neutral and **not very effective** attacks are reduced by 25%
@justalonelypan4515
@justalonelypan4515 7 жыл бұрын
You've been talking a lot about Exeggutor, so why not a video about it ;)
@treystewart731
@treystewart731 3 жыл бұрын
I still don't get the hate for Rhyperior.
@Smart1529
@Smart1529 3 жыл бұрын
People just thinks it's ugly and out of place. Personally i don't mind it's design especially once you do a bit of research on it. Rhyperior is also pretty good if you know how to use and aware of its weaknesses
@luciusirving5926
@luciusirving5926 2 жыл бұрын
Me neither, he's a solid overall physical sweeper.
@PinguGnu
@PinguGnu 7 жыл бұрын
PLEASE do jolteon or heracross I have been waiting forever
@addition2127
@addition2127 7 жыл бұрын
Pikapower9 yes for the Heracross!
@fundaergun5583
@fundaergun5583 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats! He did it!
@idanaay5266
@idanaay5266 2 жыл бұрын
How NEEDED is a REMAKE actually?
@loruneye7881
@loruneye7881 7 жыл бұрын
I have really enjoyed your analysis videos since I discovered them. I'd kinda like to see Heracross or Pinsir next.
@AverageHandle_
@AverageHandle_ 2 жыл бұрын
Rhyperior should’ve definitely become ground steel, imagine steel armour plates
@WTC-1990
@WTC-1990 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's megas stats should be like this Ability: Soild Rock HP: 115 Attack: 170 Defence: 160 Sp Atk: 50 Sp Def: 100 Speed: 40 ~ Earthquake ~ Stone Edge ~ Hammer Arm ~ Protect
@HueyHueii
@HueyHueii 4 жыл бұрын
The HP stat doesn't change when a Pokémon mega-evolves.
@WTC-1990
@WTC-1990 4 жыл бұрын
@@HueyHueii I know it doesn't, you many wanna look at the video again
@brendan01
@brendan01 3 жыл бұрын
What about the typing? I wish it was rock fighting
@WTC-1990
@WTC-1990 3 жыл бұрын
@@brendan01 Rock / Fighting sounds right
@brendan01
@brendan01 3 жыл бұрын
@@WTC-1990 ye but its first typing is ground so it can be ground fighting too.
@kinkytheslinky
@kinkytheslinky 7 жыл бұрын
Heracross next would be sweet
@PikaPunch44
@PikaPunch44 3 жыл бұрын
That dinosaur analogy was accurately on point!
@SoftwareAgentsTV
@SoftwareAgentsTV 7 жыл бұрын
These are incredibly well made. Good job!
@unnamedshadow1866
@unnamedshadow1866 6 жыл бұрын
i think the only thing that can save Rhyperior is if he gets a Mega Evolution to just make him an absolute tank that destroys with physical damage.
@drax1s729
@drax1s729 4 жыл бұрын
They should make Solid Rock reduce 50% damage and give him and Rhydon an hp buff
@Davide111111115
@Davide111111115 7 жыл бұрын
Do Heracross or 1Gen Eeveelutions
@Vaga-Bard
@Vaga-Bard 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the performances from kleavor, ursaluna, basculegion and wyrdeer. Their Great Pokémon. 👍 I worked a scythe outbreak for the shiny. Got shiny kleavor.
@hollowlunerfang
@hollowlunerfang 7 жыл бұрын
I been looking forward to this all weekend! Heracross next! Love that big bug.
@LuDogg805
@LuDogg805 7 жыл бұрын
Ya guey! Do Jolteon!!! I know it's been asked for - porfa!!!!
@andrewcomo3283
@andrewcomo3283 7 жыл бұрын
Can you do Drakrai for a Halloween special later on?
@ninetees9831
@ninetees9831 7 жыл бұрын
Andre Como yeah!
@alextorres6146
@alextorres6146 5 жыл бұрын
Rhyperior with ability solid rock not even mega fighting types can bring it down easily
@slimjimcognito
@slimjimcognito 6 жыл бұрын
My Gen 1 Rhydon had Blizzard, Fire Blast, Thunder, and Fissure - his name was Spike and he was fantastic
@wingeddragonofra
@wingeddragonofra 5 жыл бұрын
Dude your channel is gold. Congrats on your success Btw those dislikes are from the pokemon getting KO via demostration
@d-dan-dan7744
@d-dan-dan7744 7 жыл бұрын
So many strong candidates in the comment section already... =0 At this point I'd much rather wait and be surprised once the next video drops.
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