How GREAT is Dragonite Now ACTUALLY? - History of Dragonite in Competitive Pokemon

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Dragonite is once again today’s Pokemon for our History Video! Except we are covering the Gens we didn't cover in the movie. Tune in with False Swipe Gaming for this history of Dragonite's competitive career! #pokemon #pokemonscarletandviolet #pokemonshowdown
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:58 - Gens 2-7 Recap
7:39 - SS/Gen 8
10:35 - SV/Gen 9
17:07 - Outro
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[@thatfoozombi]

I think he might be first

[@crownedshyness9656]

Thanks for covering this big goofy Disney-looking dragon.

[@playersnake]

Perhaps the next theorem video could be why move sets (like mix attacking, fast physical, bulky special, etc) are close to everything or the Dragonite theorem

[@armandolira107]

I want a, how good was Dragapult. Please

[@darkdragon7210]

Chansey/ Blissey Theorem-Why Natures are Everthing! Plz.

[@mizu6891]

Finally, Lance’s third Dragonite.

[@HMZeroTwo]

Dammit you beat me to it

[@雪者]

Ahh, clever

[@BlazingCyberKnight95]

The most obvious comment

[@sonic5993]

Ahh this is a clever one

[@jacopodivita8763]

Real

[@xavierhorn9825]

Certified Tera Normal Extreme Speed Multiscale Dragon Dance moment

[@雪者]

Very true

[@mattyorshin]

I prefer inner focus.

[@BananaR777]

Im more of a fan of terra water

[@jackk.4670]

Certified Tera Normal Choiced Banded VGC Tornadus-supported Intimidate Incineroar Extreme Speed Multiscale Dragonite

[@Yousef77077]

Truest of true

[@Luigis_Menace]

The original Dragon. The one I spent 3 hours gambling for in Leaf Green. I named him Panzer, and I have zero regrets.

[@KingStr0ng]

I was truly shocked when I learned that you could just fish for one in the Safari Zone the whole time. 💀

[@mattyorshin]

I spent two weeks looking for a Dratini and when i finally got one. I was so happy.

[@paperluigi6132]

Panzer Dragoon reference?

[@Luigis_Menace]

@@paperluigi6132 Correct

[@gio9255]

Literally grinded money just to buy it the tms it needed to raise my dratini from the safari zone to a Dragonite. Easily one of the most difficult mons to obtain in the game but highly worth it for late game.

[@TheMightyWobb]

Dragonite: the most powerful normal type

[@EarthSpirit.easyzdota]

Grass Terra Incineroar is the best grass type in VGC vibes

[@lelandwhitehead56]

When Megas come back, it’s probably M-Kangaskhan

[@iliasmamalakis777]

Arceus

[@darkz8004]

@@EarthSpirit.easyzdotanah best ghost mon

[@chakrchal]

Arceus: u sure bout that?

[@jayd.doubledubs]

Cheers to Dragonite standing the test of time, even in the generation with the most amount of power creep we've ever seen

[@Cigmacica]

It didn't beat the power creep, it became the power creep

[@ohhellwhereami2574]

​​@@Cigmacicaif you can't beat them, join them

[@brandontherabboat4850]

Dragonite’s one of a handful of Gen 1 Pokémon that has NEVER gotten any evolutions, Megas, exclusive Z-Moves, Gigantamax forms, or regional variants. It’s honestly inspiring to see the big guy beat power creep regardless.

[@Captaintrippz]

Just imagine, Garchomp with multiscale.

[@redwings13400]

Power creep in pokemon is really interesting because base stats haven't really been power creeped much since gen 1, but movesets and abilities have been ridiculously power crept. This means that older pokemon with good stats still have a chance if they get updated with new moves and new abilities. Gen 1 dragonite didn't survive power creep, but it's been buffed a ton over the years, with physical dragon STAB, dragon dance, extremespeed, a ton of other moveset upgrades, and multiscale. It's also been pretty good at naturally taking advantage of generational gimmicks, with things like supersonic skystrike being the best dynamax move, terra-normal extreme-speed dragonite being ridiculous, and z-moves allowing it to use an insanely powerful dragon type move without having outrage's downsides. So dragonite's gotten a lot of buffs over the years to keep up, even if they weren't flashy buffs like megas. It's for the best, I do enjoy that pokemon does this to help older pokemon stay relevant.

[@nikunjkhangwal]

It got a sick hidden ability and we all know how that can turn the tides.

[@maxlimit9129]

he came from the bottom with nothing but the highest non mew/mewtwo base stat total in the game and a massive movepool

[@HawkHogan_]

​@@redwings13400Maybe not the Stat Totals, but there has been a heavy amount of min/maxing with how every point is distributed across the newer Pokémon

[@sonic5993]

Dragonite got reverse power crept; started in UU and had been in OU in damn near every gen since. Thats fucking hilarious.

[@ShadowtheYouTuber523]

Serperior is even more hilarious.

[@user-sw8gb3fz8x]

​@@ShadowtheKZbinr523 Not really. Serperior is fundamentally terrible. Contrary hard carries. Dragonite became good long before getting Multiscale

[@ShadowtheYouTuber523]

@@user-sw8gb3fz8x ok

[@duckymomo7935]

extremespeed is too good

[@kristianschuff1723]

​@@user-sw8gb3fz8x that part is debatable it was rarely seen in gen 1, 2, and 3 OU. Gen 4 every fully evolved dragon was either OU or banned and was the least used out of all of them.

[@arnaublazquez4420]

Fun fact: No other pseudolegendary got a remake about its competitive history meanwile Dragonite got three videos and a fourth one talking about Dratini.

[@AgsmaJustAgsma]

Tyranitar is, as we speak, battering FSG's headquarters, demanding a new video.

[@ronnycrawf2441]

@@AgsmaJustAgsmaidk if ttar wants FSG to expose his Gen 9 experience

[@arnaublazquez4420]

@@AgsmaJustAgsma A video about Salamence featuring also Roaring Moon would be great!

[@x7251z]

At least those pseudo legendary Pokemon have gotten a review. Cresselia is a legendary Pokemon who has never had a review.

[@aQrator]

​@@x7251zProbably because it's going to be another movie

[@DJSpocktimus]

This is a fantastic idea - don't re-do the entire video, just a quick recap in the beginning, followed by how it's performing currently. Love it!

[@Juniper_Rose]

Salamence in Advance: You're old news! Salamence in BW: Please...forgive me...I misspoke.

[@flallana18]

Extreme speed Tera Normal Dragonite. If you don’t have a ghost, it’s gonna hurt

[@bobbyy-gc2vt]

Best counter is tera ghost Dragonite 🔥🔥🔥

[@DJPrimeAmvs]

Laughs in outrage

[@a.v.y8331]

the e-killer archetype (it's an archetype at this point tbh) is so good that Scyther uses it down in NU with swords dance tera normal choice band quick attack.

[@The_Clorox_Bleach]

​@@a.v.y8331 Swords Dance and Choice Band?

[@a.v.y8331]

@@The_Clorox_Bleach not both obviously, depending on how they decide to play it it'll be one or the other ofc. but yes I can see how it's confusing the way I wrote it lmao

[@germanscience7246]

"You don't get to be pokemon league champion of the pokemon league without knowing how to spam full restores!" -lance

[@zachpro5475]

Video idea:the Tauros theorem why generation is everything

[@ILiekFishes]

tauros got outright nerfed, -30 special attack. I'd say politoed from gen 5-6, that's actually system mechanics changing around it instead of the pokemon becoming fundamentally worse.

[@roguestratus8449]

Hold up, let him cook.

[@llamaryder1]

​@@ILiekFisheshyper beam, lowered crit rate, and a new type resist hurt Tauros a lot more than the special split. All of those things were generational mechanics.

[@Grand-Master_Owl]

That's a great idea 🙂‍↕️ This needs to happen eventually

[@nikunjkhangwal]

Charizard in Gen 3 OU 👀

[@masterofchaos7282]

Kind of a shame it didn’t get a gigantimax form as the aces of the rest of the original elite four (lapras, gengar, machamp and the Kanto starters) got a gigantimax form but not dragonite.

[@normal6483]

That would have actually been really cool! I wonder what it would look like? It would make sense to make it a Godzilla-esque monster, but that's more suited to Tyranitar than Dragonite, so I'm not so sure. (Hydreigon would, of course, be King Ghidorah.) Maybe all the pseudolegendaries would be different tokusatsu kaiju? Metagross would be a super robot, and the others... are all just dragons, huh? I can't even imagine what you could do that would give each of them something unique.

[@pokemaniac333]

I think maybe GameFreak didn't realize the coincidence among their chosen Gigantamax targets. I certainly didn't. Kudos to you for seeing; it would've made sense for Dragonite to receive one.

[@WTC-1990]

Dragonite doesn't need any gimmicks. The king is too good for that

[@Xiuhcoatl_]

Ive been using a super bulky defensive support Dragonite with Safeguard because people genuinely have no clue what safeguard does lmao

[@ArtsyJet]

Doesn't it defend from status ailments?

[@FunkyGaming44]

Yep for 5 turns :) ​@@ArtsyJet

[@dondiego1141]

I believed this move was removed

[@snakexpert552]

Dragonite holds a special place in my heart. In Gen 5 OU I had a rain team I ran a unique choice scarf special Dragonite set with Draco Meteor, Surf/E-Speed, Thunder, and Hurricane. Absolutely destroyed everything, it's speed and special attacks hit so hard and caught people by surprise. Miss my GOAT

[@VictorAmarante]

The original pseudo legendary. Absolute awesome!

[@nicholasgardner2178]

I love that you're doing these now. I love going through the back-logs of videos but it sucks getting to mons who got their videos in gen 6 or gen 7 and don't have any up-to-date stuff. Keep up the great work!

[@thel-iteralone4592]

Gens 8 and 9 really did wonders for Dragonite with Heavy Duty Boots and Terastilizing into the Normal type respectively.

[@chaosgallade2331]

I'm peeved that Dragonite lost Dual Wingbeat in Scarlet/Violet although that move came back as a TM in Teal Mask. Sure, it may not be the most optimal option to run, but having a decent STAB move with good neutral coverage that's not reliant on Terastalization is an option that should exist.

[@Ultima2343]

Come on, you can't avoid the Rotom video forever...

[@joekewl7539]

The amount of people I have been able to clinch a victory against with a Multiscale Leftovers Roost + Waterfall + Iron Head + Extreme Speed Dragonite is nothing short of incredible. All hail the chubby Dragon lord.

[@Gravity_Ws_only]

I might chose EQ over iron head steels seem annoying with that set

[@joekewl7539]

@@Gravity_Ws_only I like the coverage better. LOTS of Fairies and Fairy Teras who think they're safe. Plus, flinchmaxxing against slower foes. A good trade, I think.

[@Gravity_Ws_only]

@@joekewl7539 idk man Tera normal e speed is normally enough to strike down any fairies And the only Tera fairies that are scary are ones that use Tera blast,which is pretty rate

[@WTC-1990]

The Dragon king, it survives and thrives as the Years go on, everyone falls, but Dragonite reminds

[@deltadeevo371]

I love this "new" style of video. Mostly just an update on how these mons are. Keep it up!

[@Stray_x]

Fun fact: even at a meager 80 base speed, it's the fastest, strongest, and bulkiest mixed attacker with the most viable move pool to support both attacking stats. It has HP, defenses, defensive typing, and multiscale. Bolt/Beam/Quake/Slide, Thrower/Beam/Bolt/E-Speed, Surf/Wingbeat/Draco Meteor/Iron Head, it goes on endlessly. Forget longevity sets with Roost, this thing is one of the most efficient at cleaning up damaged mons late game and dealing big surprise damage to those that are weak to it's coverage.

[@praggodey]

in vgc yes but in singles valiant is better

[@Stray_x]

@@praggodey the thing that dies? dnite has solid defenses, hp, typing, and multiscale.

[@praggodey]

@@Stray_x iron valiant still sees more usage and tournament success in singles

[@logans4789]

@@Stray_x Valiant has really good offensive STAB compared to Dnite and can use booster energy to instantly boost its power or speed late game, something Dnite only wishes it could have.

[@Stray_x]

@@logans4789 Have you met my friend, a singular Dragon Dance off the back of a tanked multiscale hit?

[@justindekoning9988]

I'm honestly shocked we haven't got a video on Cresselia yet.

[@x7251z]

Many people have been asking for Cresselia, Bronzong, and Rotom for years now. False Swipe obviously ignores the comment section.

[@user-no9rl3wl7x]

​@x7251z the cresselia and rotom videos aren't videos, they're gonna be 1hr plus movies like landorus's video. We must just be patient.

[@Giratina575]

How annoying was cresselia actually

[@logans4789]

@@x7251z Rotom is going to be a feature length film between its forms because almost all of them exceed in the tiers they end up in by virtue of being a relatively bulky volt switch pivot with levitate negating its ground weakness. Except Rotom fan but we love that silly guy anyway.

[@steezuskryst7201]

Bro , just unsubscribe

[@masonvalentine9739]

Crazy how dragonite has an ou niche in every generation

[@naganut9718]

In Gen 3 it was very outclassed by Salamance

[@KingStr0ng]

Because it's one of the best pokemon ever made.

[@funkymachine]

​@@naganut9718yeah, it legitimately has 0 usage in ou, and probably wouldn't be ou even if mence wasn't around

[@animejerk05]

Too bad it lost extremespeed that gen if it didn’t it would of been ou

[@spartanxbear9076]

This channel and Wolfey are actively competing for my favorite channel on KZbin. Keep up the great work; youre killin it.

[@naganut9718]

This is why Dragonite is the best pseudo. You don't see the other pseudos getting their own trilogy do you?

[@enzoforgets9456]

Choice specs dragonite my beloved

[@archellothewolf2083]

It's honestly nice to see the OG dragon's still doing work. Always was one of my favorites in Gen 1.

[@steezuskryst7201]

Hilarious , not.

[@Kulkogo]

Dragonite avoids power creep like a Focus Blast towards my opponent

[@jerry3115]

This could be called "How great is Dragonite LATELY?"

[@shacolin6546]

Oh, right, I remember doing a full stall team with Sub/DD/Roost/DClaw Dragonite as the sixth pokemon. Good times.

[@gio9255]

Easily the greatest comeback and success story of any Pokémon. Dragonite went from an average mixed attacker to one of the premier cleaners in the game. Multiscale makes it almost immune to power creep. One day I hope Dragonite gets Dragons Ascent. That would push it over the edge and send it to Ubers as long as it has that move.

[@rishabhanand4973]

I'd be content with dual wingbeat being made 100 percent accurate.

[@snapclub8751]

Tera-normal extreme speed dragonite is one of the most dangerous Pokemon to face competitively. I can already see it paving the way for a certain dragon-flying legendary to perform the same tactic.

[@Giratina575]

Oh boy that'll be something. Problem is that rayquaza is quite frail compared to muliscale d nite.

[@elijahstreckfuss8204]

these videos are so great! I really want to see a video on torkoal next, as the little guy has done some big things.

[@Phoenix-616]

Dragonite being ou while Tyranitar and Garchomp are uu and uubl respectively is something I thought I’d never see.

[@RobertLydonReviews]

“…D’Nite dropping bars. As great as that would be”. 😂😂 this made my weekend

[@PiePie453]

Yes, we need this for so many mons now.

[@matthewbickerton5276]

For some reason this video is just now making me realize how adorable dragonite is

[@gregorymirabella1423]

now just imagine if dnite was a normal type ever since gen 1.

[@thewatcher3429]

it warms my heart to my see my boy dominate even after all these years.

[@Jianichie]

I'm really liking these update videos.

[@fishfella8955]

My glorious GOD Dragonite

[@JoeMama-jl7wi]

Return of the king

[@nicolasromani3523]

I wish it'd had a reliable flying stab, but then again earthquake, fire punch and ice spinner are very important coverage.

[@Grand-Master_Owl]

Dragonite and Clefable: "We are fighting on behalf of Gen 1, we won't be denied by newer Pokémon from newer generations" 😤😤

[@gracereuben5187]

I swear, I was listening to the GREAT video 2 hours before this came out and didn’t know the sequel to it was today’s video.

[@that-guy-pearce]

Man I know the "ACTUALLY" is kind of the channel's signature, but it really feels like the "Now" should be the only all-caps adverb in the title here

[@troyforce1]

This is the third dragonite video and we never got Bronzong. 😭

[@x7251z]

I have been asking for a Bronzong review for over 2 years now. I have been ignored every time. Cresselia, and Rotom need a review as well.

[@TheBeggies95]

People like Bronzong?

[@juannaym8488]

I love how Dragonite is here since day 1 but now has it's absolute hayday. Shows that it's never too late

[@thewatermoose]

YES THIS IS MY FAVORITE POKÉMON THANK YOU THANK YOU

[@wyattnance3756]

“You ever want to play a turn based game but with only the dragon type?” Yeah I play gen 4 Ubers all the time

[@Rigelondo]

My fave pokemon and it’s amazing how Dnite has managed to stay good through all these years and the fact that he reached its peak 20 years later, wow!

[@Epzilon12]

2:20 They don’t even know the name of my bind…

[@specs.weedle]

So, when are we getting a video on smogonbird aka Talonflame?

[@Tonnex]

Oh, 0:15 So that is why the thumbnail was different

[@rooislangwtf]

15:23 TIL there's a Natal in Brazil, there's also one in South Africa (currently Kwazulu-Natal). Turns out both are for the same reason, it's Portuguese for nativity (was named by Vasco da Gama in SA's case)

[@ewutermohlen]

The OG dragon remaining viable all gens is such a sight to behold. Imagine they give him a mega evolution in the future...

[@MezmerKaiser725]

When going back to play old gens, Electric types getting paralyzed just feels...wrong

[@skeetermania3202]

Kinda wish this vid would’ve talked about RBY UU, as Dnite contributed to at least one ban there (Agility + Partial trapping).

[@DerpySuX]

In SV BSS Dragonite is one of, if not the single best mon in the meta. Thats all.

[@OnyxOblivion]

We love to see this good boy still thriving after 9 generations.

[@iskander0725]

Me.... *falls asleep watching Dragonite's old FSG video. Also me... *wakes up to new updated info on Dragonite from FSG. Last time for me.... Did FSG listen to me when I wondered aloud when we'd get Dragonite's ridiculous Gen. 9 FSG... I got you, fam!

[@skillhunter4804]

Should've mentioned shed tail, honestly, dnite was one of the main mons that got cyclizar banned, and shed tail later

[@I-did-paws]

Great vid!

[@lane5686]

I like how the grandfather of dragon pseudo legendaries continue to remain so relevant in every generation since this series’ launch ❤

[@chrisleaf]

Back in Gen 1, Dragon-type Pokémon always had a mystique in the game and the anime I remember.

[@jwanie366]

I'll always remember when Gio pulled off that comeback win with Dragonite at NAIC 2017. It's only gotten better in Gen 9 thanks to Chien-Pao. Wonder how it's gonna do in Reg G

[@Spood6]

THATS MY GOAT. MY GOAT

[@queenoftransgendernekos4155]

This thing is the bane of my existence playing competitive you’re forced to attack it twice in one turn

[@TheUnique69able]

Dragonite needs a good flying physical stab attack

[@zacherytaylor]

Thank god we got a dragonite vid. I was worried it'd be Relicanth again

[@StrongestCoward]

@2:23 Jolteon running the magic Emvee numbers.

[@kennethxu1789]

Generally in gen 1, wrap and clamp style moves are used as “semi u-turn” type moves. If the user wraps, then the opponent can’t switch, and then you can guarantee a good matchup/switch in.

[@gustavoschiller6852]

At this point we are getting a 3rd ¿How Good Was Charizard? video before he even does one about Scrafty

[@originalJoeKing]

Dragalge, magcargo, drifblim or rotom and all of his forms! 💪💪💪

[@mitchellmariacher254]

So happy ny derpt OG Dragon has been songiod throughout the generations.

[@lucastyson5230]

“How good is extreme speed actually”

[@rogue_114]

someone needs to make fan art of dnite dropping bars hah

[@Vegeta241]

I’ve been inspired by Drayton and I want to try raising a Dragonite that is focused on support; mostly as a Tailwind user. But most of the spreads I can find just give me sets for an attacking focused one. Anybody have any good advice for a support Dragonite build?

[@TheRilluma]

Moomin: _Thats not even my final form.._

[@TheDecree93]

The true dragon type, MANIA !!! 🤯

[@metalmariomega]

The OG Dragon still putting in work after all these years is a thing of beauty.

[@killuazoldyck2053]

I like the shift to how good a Pokémon is *now,* that's cool

[@sharkronical]

It’s insane how gen 9 OU started with a Dragonite terra normal abusing, and it turned to… whatever gen 9 OU is now

[@The_Moodi]

Gen 9 OU is like that one public chat that got turned into private chat where like 5 people argue all the time.

[@skrilix5738]

I’m so glad that my favorite Pokémon enjoys competitive success.

[@reun1clus]

I was hoping for a full long video, a remake style... I hope we can get a full remake for Tyranitar at least please

[@paopaothesiopao995]

Oh wow, I was literally watching the Dragonite video from 4 years ago and then this popped up.

[@The_Psycho_Bad_Boy]

I'm having a bad day right now. Hopefully this video will cheer me up.

[@logans4789]

Can we see another update video on Gliscor? Mon has been incredibly controversial in Gen 9 especially due to Gholdengo and it was nothing to sneeze at in the previous few gens since the original video too.

[@saintsforever3751]

Glad to see some of these older pokemon keep up with newer generations

[@Ledzepisbest1]

By God I've waiting for this sh!t since I popped outta the womb!! I need more Gen 1-3 pokemon🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@PedroHenrique-vs3mf]

Lmao U saying ~Curitiba~ was so adorable

[@chenzo55BETA]

I got real world stunned by Zapdos getting paralyzed

[@OshawottLuke]

15:33 16:15 Joaquín AND Sekiam mentioned in the same video, let's gooo

[@JohnHunterPlayerr]

It’s a game winner after agility under screens in let’s go. Something always worth saving in the back.

[@cobalt7248]

We got a remake for my favorite Normal-type!

[@katelundberg2029]

I think this series could be called "How GREAT/GOOD/AWFUL is [Pokemon] CURRENTLY" or something like that, a nice little difference in names to indicate what videos are remakes/new mons and what are expanding on old mons.