How GREAT is Dragonite Now ACTUALLY? - History of Dragonite in Competitive Pokemon

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[@thatfoozombi]

I think he might be first

[@crownedshyness9656]

Thanks for covering this big goofy Disney-looking dragon.

[@playersnake]

Perhaps the next theorem video could be why move sets (like mix attacking, fast physical, bulky special, etc) are close to everything or the Dragonite theorem

[@armandolira107]

I want a, how good was Dragapult. Please

[@darkdragon7210]

Chansey/ Blissey Theorem-Why Natures are Everthing! Plz.

[@mizu6891]

Finally, Lance’s third Dragonite.

[@HMZeroTwo]

Dammit you beat me to it

[@雪者]

Ahh, clever

[@BlazingCyberKnight95]

The most obvious comment

[@sonic5993]

Ahh this is a clever one

[@jacopodivita8763]

Real

[@xavierhorn9825]

Certified Tera Normal Extreme Speed Multiscale Dragon Dance moment

[@雪者]

Very true

[@mattyorshin]

I prefer inner focus.

[@BananaR777]

Im more of a fan of terra water

[@jackk.4670]

Certified Tera Normal Choiced Banded VGC Tornadus-supported Intimidate Incineroar Extreme Speed Multiscale Dragonite

[@Yousef77077]

Truest of true

[@TheMightyWobb]

Dragonite: the most powerful normal type

[@EarthSpirit.easyzdota]

Grass Terra Incineroar is the best grass type in VGC vibes

[@lelandwhitehead56]

When Megas come back, it’s probably M-Kangaskhan

[@iliasmamalakis777]

Arceus

[@darkz8004]

@@EarthSpirit.easyzdotanah best ghost mon

[@chakrchal]

Arceus: u sure bout that?

[@Luigis_Menace]

The original Dragon. The one I spent 3 hours gambling for in Leaf Green. I named him Panzer, and I have zero regrets.

[@KingStr0ng]

I was truly shocked when I learned that you could just fish for one in the Safari Zone the whole time. 💀

[@mattyorshin]

I spent two weeks looking for a Dratini and when i finally got one. I was so happy.

[@paperluigi6132]

Panzer Dragoon reference?

[@Luigis_Menace]

@@paperluigi6132 Correct

[@gio9255]

Literally grinded money just to buy it the tms it needed to raise my dratini from the safari zone to a Dragonite. Easily one of the most difficult mons to obtain in the game but highly worth it for late game.

[@sonic5993]

Dragonite got reverse power crept; started in UU and had been in OU in damn near every gen since. Thats fucking hilarious.

[@ShadowtheYouTuber523]

Serperior is even more hilarious.

[@LeonSKennedy-b9v]

​@@ShadowtheKZbinr523 Not really. Serperior is fundamentally terrible. Contrary hard carries. Dragonite became good long before getting Multiscale

[@ShadowtheYouTuber523]

@@LeonSKennedy-b9v ok

[@duckymomo7935]

extremespeed is too good

[@kristianschuff1723]

​@@LeonSKennedy-b9v that part is debatable it was rarely seen in gen 1, 2, and 3 OU. Gen 4 every fully evolved dragon was either OU or banned and was the least used out of all of them.

[@brandontherabboat4850]

Dragonite’s one of a handful of Gen 1 Pokémon that has NEVER gotten any evolutions, Megas, exclusive Z-Moves, Gigantamax forms, or regional variants. It’s honestly inspiring to see the big guy beat power creep regardless.

[@Captaintrippz]

Just imagine, Garchomp with multiscale.

[@redwings13400]

Power creep in pokemon is really interesting because base stats haven't really been power creeped much since gen 1, but movesets and abilities have been ridiculously power crept. This means that older pokemon with good stats still have a chance if they get updated with new moves and new abilities. Gen 1 dragonite didn't survive power creep, but it's been buffed a ton over the years, with physical dragon STAB, dragon dance, extremespeed, a ton of other moveset upgrades, and multiscale. It's also been pretty good at naturally taking advantage of generational gimmicks, with things like supersonic skystrike being the best dynamax move, terra-normal extreme-speed dragonite being ridiculous, and z-moves allowing it to use an insanely powerful dragon type move without having outrage's downsides. So dragonite's gotten a lot of buffs over the years to keep up, even if they weren't flashy buffs like megas. It's for the best, I do enjoy that pokemon does this to help older pokemon stay relevant.

[@nikunjkhangwal]

It got a sick hidden ability and we all know how that can turn the tides.

[@maxlimit9129]

he came from the bottom with nothing but the highest non mew/mewtwo base stat total in the game and a massive movepool

[@HawkHogan_]

​@@redwings13400Maybe not the Stat Totals, but there has been a heavy amount of min/maxing with how every point is distributed across the newer Pokémon

[@arnaublazquez4420]

Fun fact: No other pseudolegendary got a remake about its competitive history meanwile Dragonite got three videos and a fourth one talking about Dratini.

[@AgsmaJustAgsma]

Tyranitar is, as we speak, battering FSG's headquarters, demanding a new video.

[@ronnycrawf2441]

@@AgsmaJustAgsmaidk if ttar wants FSG to expose his Gen 9 experience

[@arnaublazquez4420]

@@AgsmaJustAgsma A video about Salamence featuring also Roaring Moon would be great!

[@x7251z]

At least those pseudo legendary Pokemon have gotten a review. Cresselia is a legendary Pokemon who has never had a review.

[@aQrator]

​@@x7251zProbably because it's going to be another movie

[@jayd.doubledubs]

Cheers to Dragonite standing the test of time, even in the generation with the most amount of power creep we've ever seen

[@Cigmacica]

It didn't beat the power creep, it became the power creep

[@ohhellwhereami2574]

​​@@Cigmacicaif you can't beat them, join them

[@SirKing97]

YEAH

[@DJSpocktimus]

This is a fantastic idea - don't re-do the entire video, just a quick recap in the beginning, followed by how it's performing currently. Love it!

[@zachpro5475]

Video idea:the Tauros theorem why generation is everything

[@ILiekFishes]

tauros got outright nerfed, -30 special attack. I'd say politoed from gen 5-6, that's actually system mechanics changing around it instead of the pokemon becoming fundamentally worse.

[@Roguedotexe]

Hold up, let him cook.

[@llamaryder1]

​@@ILiekFisheshyper beam, lowered crit rate, and a new type resist hurt Tauros a lot more than the special split. All of those things were generational mechanics.

[@Grand-Master_Owl]

That's a great idea 🙂‍↕️ This needs to happen eventually

[@nikunjkhangwal]

Charizard in Gen 3 OU 👀

[@masterofchaos7282]

Kind of a shame it didn’t get a gigantimax form as the aces of the rest of the original elite four (lapras, gengar, machamp and the Kanto starters) got a gigantimax form but not dragonite.

[@normal6483]

That would have actually been really cool! I wonder what it would look like? It would make sense to make it a Godzilla-esque monster, but that's more suited to Tyranitar than Dragonite, so I'm not so sure. (Hydreigon would, of course, be King Ghidorah.) Maybe all the pseudolegendaries would be different tokusatsu kaiju? Metagross would be a super robot, and the others... are all just dragons, huh? I can't even imagine what you could do that would give each of them something unique.

[@WTC-1990]

Dragonite doesn't need any gimmicks. The king is too good for that

[@flallana18]

Extreme speed Tera Normal Dragonite. If you don’t have a ghost, it’s gonna hurt

[@bobbyy-gc2vt]

Best counter is tera ghost Dragonite 🔥🔥🔥

[@DjPrimeVideos]

Laughs in outrage

[@a.v.y8331]

the e-killer archetype (it's an archetype at this point tbh) is so good that Scyther uses it down in NU with swords dance tera normal choice band quick attack.

[@The_Clorox_Bleach]

​@@a.v.y8331 Swords Dance and Choice Band?

[@a.v.y8331]

@@The_Clorox_Bleach not both obviously, depending on how they decide to play it it'll be one or the other ofc. but yes I can see how it's confusing the way I wrote it lmao

[@germanscience7246]

"You don't get to be pokemon league champion of the pokemon league without knowing how to spam full restores!" -lance

[@Juniper_Rose]

Salamence in Advance: You're old news! Salamence in BW: Please...forgive me...I misspoke.

[@snakexpert552]

Dragonite holds a special place in my heart. In Gen 5 OU I had a rain team I ran a unique choice scarf special Dragonite set with Draco Meteor, Surf/E-Speed, Thunder, and Hurricane. Absolutely destroyed everything, it's speed and special attacks hit so hard and caught people by surprise. Miss my GOAT

[@nicholasgardner2178]

I love that you're doing these now. I love going through the back-logs of videos but it sucks getting to mons who got their videos in gen 6 or gen 7 and don't have any up-to-date stuff. Keep up the great work!

[@Xiuhcoatl_]

Ive been using a super bulky defensive support Dragonite with Safeguard because people genuinely have no clue what safeguard does lmao

[@ArtsyJet]

Doesn't it defend from status ailments?

[@FunkyGaming44]

Yep for 5 turns :) ​@@ArtsyJet

[@dondiego1141]

I believed this move was removed

[@chaosgallade2331]

I'm peeved that Dragonite lost Dual Wingbeat in Scarlet/Violet although that move came back as a TM in Teal Mask. Sure, it may not be the most optimal option to run, but having a decent STAB move with good neutral coverage that's not reliant on Terastalization is an option that should exist.

[@VictorAmarante]

The original pseudo legendary. Absolute awesome!

[@deltadeevo371]

I love this "new" style of video. Mostly just an update on how these mons are. Keep it up!

[@Ultima2343]

Come on, you can't avoid the Rotom video forever...

[@thel-iteralone4592]

Gens 8 and 9 really did wonders for Dragonite with Heavy Duty Boots and Terastilizing into the Normal type respectively.

[@vatsalsrivastav5195]

I know I am late, but didn't dragonite get something good in each gen since gen 4 (exception being gen6) Gen 4 gave it extreme speed, gen 5 gave it multiscale, gen 7 allowed it to smash things with the flying type Z move and it also became a good Pokemon to switch into Z moves with multiscale, gen 8 gave it heavy duty boots, gen 9 gave it Tera normal. It has surprisingly just fit into every game mechanic they ended up adding

[@The_Juggla]

Fun fact: even at a meager 80 base speed, it's the fastest, strongest, and bulkiest mixed attacker with the most viable move pool to support both attacking stats. It has HP, defenses, defensive typing, and multiscale. Bolt/Beam/Quake/Slide, Thrower/Beam/Bolt/E-Speed, Surf/Wingbeat/Draco Meteor/Iron Head, it goes on endlessly. Forget longevity sets with Roost, this thing is one of the most efficient at cleaning up damaged mons late game and dealing big surprise damage to those that are weak to it's coverage.

[@LearLover]

in vgc yes but in singles valiant is better

[@The_Juggla]

@@LearLover the thing that dies? dnite has solid defenses, hp, typing, and multiscale.

[@LearLover]

@@The_Juggla iron valiant still sees more usage and tournament success in singles

[@logans4789]

@@The_Juggla Valiant has really good offensive STAB compared to Dnite and can use booster energy to instantly boost its power or speed late game, something Dnite only wishes it could have.

[@The_Juggla]

@@logans4789 Have you met my friend, a singular Dragon Dance off the back of a tanked multiscale hit?

[@Phoenix-616]

Dragonite being ou while Tyranitar and Garchomp are uu and uubl respectively is something I thought I’d never see.

[@masonvalentine9739]

Crazy how dragonite has an ou niche in every generation

[@naganut9718]

In Gen 3 it was very outclassed by Salamance

[@KingStr0ng]

Because it's one of the best pokemon ever made.

[@funkymachine]

​@@naganut9718yeah, it legitimately has 0 usage in ou, and probably wouldn't be ou even if mence wasn't around

[@animejerk05]

Too bad it lost extremespeed that gen if it didn’t it would of been ou

[@joekewl7539]

The amount of people I have been able to clinch a victory against with a Multiscale Leftovers Roost + Waterfall + Iron Head + Extreme Speed Dragonite is nothing short of incredible. All hail the chubby Dragon lord.

[@Gravity_Ws_only]

I might chose EQ over iron head steels seem annoying with that set

[@joekewl7539]

@@Gravity_Ws_only I like the coverage better. LOTS of Fairies and Fairy Teras who think they're safe. Plus, flinchmaxxing against slower foes. A good trade, I think.

[@Gravity_Ws_only]

@@joekewl7539 idk man Tera normal e speed is normally enough to strike down any fairies And the only Tera fairies that are scary are ones that use Tera blast,which is pretty rate

[@WTC-1990]

The Dragon king, it survives and thrives as the Years go on, everyone falls, but Dragonite reminds

[@naganut9718]

This is why Dragonite is the best pseudo. You don't see the other pseudos getting their own trilogy do you?

[@spartanxbear9076]

This channel and Wolfey are actively competing for my favorite channel on KZbin. Keep up the great work; youre killin it.

[@snapclub8751]

Tera-normal extreme speed dragonite is one of the most dangerous Pokemon to face competitively. I can already see it paving the way for a certain dragon-flying legendary to perform the same tactic.

[@Giratina575]

Oh boy that'll be something. Problem is that rayquaza is quite frail compared to muliscale d nite.

[@wyattnance3756]

“You ever want to play a turn based game but with only the dragon type?” Yeah I play gen 4 Ubers all the time

[@archellothewolf2083]

It's honestly nice to see the OG dragon's still doing work. Always was one of my favorites in Gen 1.

[@steezuskryst7201]

Hilarious , not.

[@shacolin6546]

Oh, right, I remember doing a full stall team with Sub/DD/Roost/DClaw Dragonite as the sixth pokemon. Good times.

[@justindekoning9988]

I'm honestly shocked we haven't got a video on Cresselia yet.

[@x7251z]

Many people have been asking for Cresselia, Bronzong, and Rotom for years now. False Swipe obviously ignores the comment section.

[@DrXtreme777]

​@x7251z the cresselia and rotom videos aren't videos, they're gonna be 1hr plus movies like landorus's video. We must just be patient.

[@Giratina575]

How annoying was cresselia actually

[@logans4789]

@@x7251z Rotom is going to be a feature length film between its forms because almost all of them exceed in the tiers they end up in by virtue of being a relatively bulky volt switch pivot with levitate negating its ground weakness. Except Rotom fan but we love that silly guy anyway.

[@steezuskryst7201]

Bro , just unsubscribe

[@Kulkogo]

Dragonite avoids power creep like a Focus Blast towards my opponent

[@WTC-1990]

Dragonite is the King. It just survives & thrives no matter the generation, and it's done it without any gimmicks. He just uses what everyone else gets No mega, no problem No Z-Move, no need No Gigantamax, no issue

[@gregorymirabella1423]

now just imagine if dnite was a normal type ever since gen 1.

[@rooislangwtf]

15:23 TIL there's a Natal in Brazil, there's also one in South Africa (currently Kwazulu-Natal). Turns out both are for the same reason, it's Portuguese for nativity (was named by Vasco da Gama in SA's case)

[@that-guy-pearce]

Man I know the "ACTUALLY" is kind of the channel's signature, but it really feels like the "Now" should be the only all-caps adverb in the title here

[@enzoforgets9456]

Choice specs dragonite my beloved

[@elijahstreckfuss8204]

these videos are so great! I really want to see a video on torkoal next, as the little guy has done some big things.

[@thewatcher3429]

it warms my heart to my see my boy dominate even after all these years.

[@troyforce1]

This is the third dragonite video and we never got Bronzong. 😭

[@x7251z]

I have been asking for a Bronzong review for over 2 years now. I have been ignored every time. Cresselia, and Rotom need a review as well.

[@TheBeggies95]

People like Bronzong?

[@jerry3115]

This could be called "How great is Dragonite LATELY?"

[@PiePie453]

Yes, we need this for so many mons now.

[@Grand-Master_Owl]

Dragonite and Clefable: "We are fighting on behalf of Gen 1, we won't be denied by newer Pokémon from newer generations" 😤😤

[@matthewbickerton5276]

For some reason this video is just now making me realize how adorable dragonite is

[@DerpySuX]

In SV BSS Dragonite is one of, if not the single best mon in the meta. Thats all.

[@juannaym8488]

I love how Dragonite is here since day 1 but now has it's absolute hayday. Shows that it's never too late

[@CEOPolaris]

Of course Dragonite would clean house with Tera Normal, repping the best type of its home generation

[@RobertLydonReviews]

“…D’Nite dropping bars. As great as that would be”. 😂😂 this made my weekend

[@iskander0725]

Me.... *falls asleep watching Dragonite's old FSG video. Also me... *wakes up to new updated info on Dragonite from FSG. Last time for me.... Did FSG listen to me when I wondered aloud when we'd get Dragonite's ridiculous Gen. 9 FSG... I got you, fam!

[@GaleDDS2]

Return of the king

[@nicolasromani3523]

I wish it'd had a reliable flying stab, but then again earthquake, fire punch and ice spinner are very important coverage.

[@Jianichie]

I'm really liking these update videos.

[@anthonyyasona8237]

Give him a Mega Evolution next game Typing: Dragon/Normal Ability: Multiscale and Inner Focus combined as One HP - 91 ATK- 174 DEF - 105 SP.ATK - 90 SP.DEF - 120 SPD - 120

[@joeyyoung5173]

Least Broken Theorymon

[@butteredsalmonella]

truly a Stunfisk Sundays moment

[@azurneon]

We got a remake for my favorite Normal-type!

[@thewatermoose]

YES THIS IS MY FAVORITE POKÉMON THANK YOU THANK YOU

[@Rigelondo]

My fave pokemon and it’s amazing how Dnite has managed to stay good through all these years and the fact that he reached its peak 20 years later, wow!

[@gracereuben5187]

I swear, I was listening to the GREAT video 2 hours before this came out and didn’t know the sequel to it was today’s video.

[@specs.weedle]

So, when are we getting a video on smogonbird aka Talonflame?

[@SuperPokekami]

Looking forward to mega dragonite in Legends Za

[@OnyxOblivion]

We love to see this good boy still thriving after 9 generations.

[@skillhunter4804]

Should've mentioned shed tail, honestly, dnite was one of the main mons that got cyclizar banned, and shed tail later

[@metalmariomega]

The OG Dragon still putting in work after all these years is a thing of beauty.

[@sharkronical]

It’s insane how gen 9 OU started with a Dragonite terra normal abusing, and it turned to… whatever gen 9 OU is now

[@The_Moodi]

Gen 9 OU is like that one public chat that got turned into private chat where like 5 people argue all the time.

[@Epzilon12]

2:20 They don’t even know the name of my bind…

[@drakejohnson5386]

Real a song of ice and fire fans, the dragon must have 3 heads

[@ewutermohlen]

The OG dragon remaining viable all gens is such a sight to behold. Imagine they give him a mega evolution in the future...

[@ArcMystic1]

Could you do one for Cresselia next?

[@TheUnique69able]

Dragonite needs a good flying physical stab attack

[@fishfella8955]

My glorious GOD Dragonite

[@kennethxu1789]

Generally in gen 1, wrap and clamp style moves are used as “semi u-turn” type moves. If the user wraps, then the opponent can’t switch, and then you can guarantee a good matchup/switch in.

[@MidnightDragonLux]

This thing is the bane of my existence playing competitive you’re forced to attack it twice in one turn

[@ExpensiveEbi]

Kieran using dragonite with Politoed inspired me to use special attack Dragonite which is actually really fun

[@yyphases5257]

I'm hoping to see a remake on Venusaur's competitive history, just like how there was one with Charizards's. Venusaurs deserves some more attention, and there'll be a lot to talk about given Venusaur is seen as the best Gen 1 competitive pokemon

[@CheesyCore]

Eh not that prestige of a title. Saur is just a poor man eggy. And eggy also fell off hard and is considered unviable in modern day RBY All three starters are terrible

[@Gigachad-ht1ns]

T tar should also have a remake of

[@wahbucket501]

I’d love to see a video from you guys discussing who the best Pokémon of all time is. Pokémon who have multi-generational usefulness who also evolve with time to remain prominent. Dragonite is a perfect example

[@TheDecree93]

The true dragon type, MANIA !!! 🤯

[@WTPokemonToons-rk7ci]

I feel inspired by your videos. Thank you very much.

[@jordanhamann9123]

Dragonite for President

[@lucastyson5230]

“How good is extreme speed actually”

[@OshawottLuke]

15:33 16:15 Joaquín AND Sekiam mentioned in the same video, let's gooo

[@skeetermania3202]

Kinda wish this vid would’ve talked about RBY UU, as Dnite contributed to at least one ban there (Agility + Partial trapping).

[@StrongestCoward]

@2:23 Jolteon running the magic Emvee numbers.

[@fencerderio9814]

Use this comment as a “Please remake the Volcarona video” button.

[@oscen335]

Cant believe a bug type is being suspected twice, volcarona is really the GOAT

[@JohnHunterPlayerr]

It’s a game winner after agility under screens in let’s go. Something always worth saving in the back.

[@zacherytaylor]

Thank god we got a dragonite vid. I was worried it'd be Relicanth again

[@Tonnex]

Oh, 0:15 So that is why the thumbnail was different

[@BenFlat]

you should call these recaps How Good is X Lately

[@saintsforever3751]

Glad to see some of these older pokemon keep up with newer generations

[@zinnias114]

Also good to mention that Dragonite runs defensive dragon dance on stall teams in SM OU

[@MezmerKaiser725]

When going back to play old gens, Electric types getting paralyzed just feels...wrong

[@PsychicStoryteller]

I like the shift to how good a Pokémon is *now,* that's cool

[@skrilix5738]

I’m so glad that my favorite Pokémon enjoys competitive success.

[@GoatyBoatyBH414]

Dragonite is another one of those pokemon that just get better and better every gen instead of falling prey to piwer creep.

[@mitchellmariacher254]

So happy ny derpt OG Dragon has been songiod throughout the generations.

[@RSB123-q1t]

Still waiting for the Gengar Remake !!!

[@BARBERSHOPP]

>says discussing dragonite in the last 2 gens >immediately starts covering dragonite from gen 1

[@gustavoschiller6852]

At this point we are getting a 3rd ¿How Good Was Charizard? video before he even does one about Scrafty