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@phephemigi6 жыл бұрын
Storytellers I didn't expect the jordan peterson name drop, wonderfull vid.
@enyasofia6 жыл бұрын
It’s really cool that a Mexican man has been able to capture Spanish history in such an amazing and beautiful way.
@Pantano635 жыл бұрын
It was originally set during the Mexican Revolution, where the rebels actually won, but Del Toro couldn't find financing in Mexico so he turned to Spain, instead. One can only imagine.
@emjenkins4645 жыл бұрын
I'm studying Pans Labyrinth for my A level and my teacher actually though he was Spanish. (She's not a good teacher, but it also shows his storytelling skill.)
@editorialinrm3405 жыл бұрын
He is a grandchild of Spain's civil war refugees, as many Mexicans of his generation are. The story about not finding financing in Mexico for a movie about the Revolution might also be very true.
@La-familia-de-Fazio5 жыл бұрын
Enya L you do realize that Mexican blood heritage comes from Spain; back when the conquistadors sailed over and decimated the central native Americans! Mexicans or "Hispanic" are hybrids of Spanish and native blood!
@alexaacuna70075 жыл бұрын
@@La-familia-de-Fazio conquistadors? Invaders
@anahi_naya_ledesma Жыл бұрын
Fast forward to today, november 7th 2022: According to Guillermo del Toro himself, his version of Pinocchio is the third installment of this trilogy. It is set in Mussolini's Italy. Again, a fantastic story framed in a very real and raw context. Del Toro says that the three films are a manifesto on disobedience, from the innocent point of view of children, who try to make sense of life in the midst of a very hostile environment.
@Ray2346 Жыл бұрын
Not to start an argument, but the 2017 The Shape Of Water can also be put in that category. Even though it takes place in America. It still follows the same structure of the other two. It also is its own creation. While Pinocchio is his adaptation of a stolen already told. But I can also agree you on his Pinocchio. 🙂
@laurenbi7 жыл бұрын
Omg a video essay NOT sponsored by Square Space?! Say whaaat?!?
@alyssahansen14007 жыл бұрын
Lauren Bennett At this point I'm stunned when any type of video doesn't include a squarespace or audible sponsorship.
@anbay7717 жыл бұрын
Alyssa Hansen skillshare yo
@yutisima5 жыл бұрын
you've never played tuber simulator?
@nightingalesong30594 жыл бұрын
When I found out two of the rebels in pans labyrinth who where killed were Jamie and Carlos I was so sad. But I suppose in all of his films nobody truly gets a "happy ending" it's one of the many reasons I love his films so much, life is sad, hard, cruel . I wonder if the rebel who stuttered and was tortured was owl? It's common people who stutter to be selectively mute as children out of fear of being mocked. His films have such depth, and I love the way he brings real life struggles into supernatural/fantasy films. I could go on forever about my theories about del toro's movies, but no one will ever know the precisely what the story he's trying to tell is. That's what makes his films so beautiful.
@column.a7 жыл бұрын
The Spanish people didn't choose to forget, they forced us to. To this day, the heirs of Franco still govern this country, product of a transition towards "democracy" controlled by the military and other fascist elements that still existed in the country. They try to make us forget the horrors that the Spanish people had to suffer, the thousands buried in mass graves, killed by the regime for ideological reasons, because to remember them would mean knowing where the current government came from. We are a country that tacitly praises fascism while having unidentified democrats rotting in mass graves, without proper burials, for the same reasons I already quoted. Very insightful video, greetings from Spain.
@absinthexiii43766 жыл бұрын
Jarkov I totally agree. just look at Belchite. They try to make us forget but they just can’t quite hide their mess...
@rkrokberg6 жыл бұрын
I see you have both good taste in film and music. Greetings from Norway
@emjenkins4645 жыл бұрын
It's not forgotten in South Wales. Many men from the valleys travelled to support and fight with the rebels during the 30's and the memorials to those who died are a reminder for all of Spain's loss.
@Canhistoryismylife5 жыл бұрын
@@emjenkins464 nor is it forgotten in British Colombia where we erected a monument to those who died fighting in Spain. like the film says "traces of their time on earth visible only to those who know where to look"
@elcatrinc19965 жыл бұрын
At least the dongs from those times are still present to this day.
@BlenderDumbass7 жыл бұрын
damn... I didn't even noticed that that mistical super father in the end of pans labirynth is the same actor as the guy from the orphanage
@jcrock336 жыл бұрын
Blender Dumbass I
@AlbertoFolres5 жыл бұрын
Also appeared on Cronos
@lorenad57824 жыл бұрын
Whaaat 😮🤨🤔
@blondbraid79867 жыл бұрын
Fantastic analysis, and and I think both The Devils Backbone and Pan's Labyrint are great movies for for bringing knowledge of the civil war to an international audience (I actually got to see both of these movies during the Spanish language-lessons in school!). I also think Pan's labyrinth is a fantastic example of a movie that uses a child's fantasy world for an allegory of horrible real-life events, since there has been so many movies with a similar premise that failed miserably. It'd be interesting to see a comparison of Pan's labyrinth and The Nutcracker 3D, a movie which also tired to mix childlike fantasy with allegories about Nazism and the world war (yes, they made some changes to the classical story) but wound up being horribly tone-deaf instead.
@storytellers17 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gertrud! I had actually never seen The Devil's Backbone prior to the production of this video... I had heard of it and I still feel bad for not having picked it up earlier. Having watched it it really becomes an inseparable companion piece to Pan's Labyrinth and it actually made me appreciate that movie even more... Also lol, had no idea that The Nutcracker 3D existed, I remember watching the classic over and over when I was young, might be interesting to re-watch it again sometime soon! - Thomas
@claudiacastrillon44407 жыл бұрын
Gertrud Bondesson hola
@ignaciomayorgaalzate53387 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Great analysis. My grandmother survived the Spanish Civil War so Del Toro's films had always resonated within me. Excellent vlog.
@storytellers17 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ignacio. I can imagine his films hit home for people who have a personal history with the war. I'm also wondering about Spain's present situation, hopefully things will remain peaceful... - Thomas
@absinthexiii43766 жыл бұрын
Same here. My grandmother was from Cazorla and she moved to Zaragoza after the war. It’s cool to see others who had family from Spain who had lived through that time.
@kw2715 жыл бұрын
The 3rd of this trilogy is "The Shape of Water" -- the paranoia of the Cold War and the betrayal of the Male Identity by the Ideology of a Fear Mongering State.
@livelybubbs62424 жыл бұрын
But the trilogy is about the Spanish civil war tho, right? Fukkit, I could be wrong, but considering the consistent theme with the last two films it wouldn’t make much sense for it to suddenly take place in America during the Cold War (not to mention the whole ‘water monster’ thing).
@jarekkorytkowski64024 жыл бұрын
I think maybe Cronos would fit better
@texabara3 жыл бұрын
Sí
@diogosimao2 жыл бұрын
No. The 3rd would be a movie called 3993, but Del Toro put the project to rest...
@mohinda232 жыл бұрын
The orphanage could be the 2nd and then pan the more elaborate the 3rd: the handicapped orphans were killed during Franco era.
@Ivan-xy9vg7 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for The Shape Of Water!!!
@storytellers17 жыл бұрын
Patrick Bateman Same!
@geriburrito7 жыл бұрын
I saw it at Sitges festival a month ago and I was really disappointed. It's not a bad film but it's not like his other films, it's a more archetypical and light-hearted story without barely any depth whatsoever. It kinda reminded of Amelie with a creepy and gory touch.
@kalcool12665 жыл бұрын
@@geriburrito *Wins Best Picture*
@princesssparrow45305 жыл бұрын
@Jeremy Roberts I kinda agree with baby onion here. I can see the métaphore , but haven't we seen this metaphore for a loooooooooooooooong time? "person is different, kill it with fire!". His other movies are packed with deep allegories (as seen in the video which is great). Still, this my take.
@haydengilbert63177 жыл бұрын
The Michael Stuhlbarg character in Shape of Water certainly reminds me of the doctor from Pan's Labyrinth.
@StopCopCity13127 жыл бұрын
Finally... someone has managed to analyze Pan's Labyrinth. I understood and managed to grasp the ending on my own but not much else. I knew there was more there!
@16shatterglass Жыл бұрын
If anyone is wondering, the third film is "Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio" (on Netflix), and it comes as the second part, between the Devil's Backbone and Pan's Labyrinth.
@MedicMain97 жыл бұрын
I've just Crimson Peak yesterday and God, what a movie! I don't know why people keep bashing it, it's a good movie
@YouMakeMyMotorRun5 жыл бұрын
I was friends with the nephew of the guy who played Jacinto on "The Devil's Back Bone"... turns out, the guy is not that bad. Perhaps a little full of himself, but that's something to be expected. In any case, the saddest part is that, for some people, what you talk about may seem like a long, forgotten past. It is not the case, however, here in Spain. Many political parties are still supported here by people who believe in what Franco did. A big chunk of the population still believes in Franco as a sort of savior, a prophet or even a messiah. I do hope this comment doesn't become very public because, honestly, it wouldn't be the first time in the Spanish "democracy" that a person is incarcerated for publishing their beliefs (you can see it in the news, as Dani Mateo and Valtonyc have been prosecuted for various "crimes against the crown" [basically snorting on the Spanish flag and trash-talking about the king]). On the other hand, I do wish this comment becomes public as a sort of "call for help", because Spain is slowly becoming unbearable, and we could very well use the help of the rest of the countries that still enjoy the sweet taste of free speech. In any case, I hope you never forget that, here in Spain, for an act as simple as voting for independence, an entire community (the Catalans) was beaten up by the police. And the only ones in jail so far are the ones that proposed such voting to the people...
@NinjaStripes5 жыл бұрын
Ever Wanderer sounds like any sort of criticism of Spain in popular media can only come from other Spanish speaking countries. Similarly, any criticism of Nazi Germany could only safely occur in popular media in German refugees and settled German or German speaking immigrants in other countries. Charlie Chaplin’s The Great Dictator overall mocks Nazi ideology before America entered the war and American comic books, written largely by Jewish boys and men of differing nationalities, had superhero’s fighting and arguing against Nazi propaganda at a similar time before America entered the war. I’m unaware of similar popular media of the time from other countries, but I’m sure they existed as refugees fled not only to America.
@hyperion31454 жыл бұрын
@@NinjaStripes I think that's normal for most countries. The US doesn't have too many critics in the media (outside of the President and that's only really on reality tv) unless it is from immigrants coming in, foreigners or politicians (again, the criticism is almost always about the Presidency). Nobody dares to talk criticism about what the US has done in the US or else they are called un-American. Hell, even talking online about the historical and current issues that plagued and still persist in the US will get you blocked because "you just hate the US". The US has been one of the biggest assholes in history for pretty much anyone that wasn't an Anglo Saxon Protestant with roots from 1777 or prior. Throughout history we have pretty much did whatever we wanted with no respect for who might be affected and it has blown up in our face a vast majority of times everything from the Civil War onwards is us overstepping our boundaries and getting hit by consequences). But nobody is allowed to talk about any of this.
@NinjaStripes4 жыл бұрын
Hyperion God if that isn’t the truth and nothing but the truth, I don’t know what is.
@dagfinissocool3 жыл бұрын
It's not just Spain, the media in Norway doing coverage on the Catalan independence was so biased against the independence basically labelling everyone as terrorists for wanting liberty. We did not hear of any violence towards the Catalans only that it was such a small part of Spain and how you wanted to seperate families living in seperate locations..
@MarceloKuroi7 жыл бұрын
Great, magnificient essay! The benign father figure in both films (Dr. Casares and the king) was played by Federico Luppi, a great actor who died recently.
@storytellers17 жыл бұрын
Thank you Marcelo, I actually saw a post about his passing away yesterday... I had no idea he played the benign father figure in Pan's Labyrinth as well. I would've mentioned it otherwise! - Thomas
@Tadeas_Plachy7 жыл бұрын
Damn, gotta re-watch the Devils backbone, seen it on TV wayyyy back... But Pans Labyrint is amongst my favorite movies.
@storytellers17 жыл бұрын
Do it! It's definitely worth it!
@Tadeas_Plachy7 жыл бұрын
So I did and now, with the extra knowledge, how the movies are connected, it was much better experience! Thanks!
@makmart52987 жыл бұрын
Loved this analysis, I got emotional at the end. We reflect our stories and lessons through movies to show the effects and caution. Need to remember more
@kevinnut17763 жыл бұрын
every time i come back to this video, im still left thinking about Jaime and Carlos and how the hopeful ending of their stories escaping, is lost in Pans Labyrinth as they die laying not like main characters, but as any soldier would lay down to rest. The characters aren't bulletproof to life, it was simply a story told.
@ashersoryl7 жыл бұрын
This has got to be the best example of a video essay to date! Fantastic analysis and comparison, as always :)
@hauntedmythAkari5 жыл бұрын
Asher Soryl Well said!
@MrTigerlore6 жыл бұрын
I’m so impressed with this film analysis. Such a great job.
@jonathancook83437 жыл бұрын
Brilliant analysis of two complex stories. The Fallopian tube motifs within Pan's labyrinth, good spot, I only noticed one in the storybook, but if you look, there are at least 10 refs to that motif throughout the film.
@Ryan-the-Rocketeer5 жыл бұрын
Whoa I had no idea these two movies were connected with shared characters 12:02 blew my mind
@MsSarahJosephine7 жыл бұрын
CARLOS, JAIME NO! I involuntarily muttered 'Goddammit!' and sulked for a little while after you mentioned that. I mean their futures were already pretty bleak albeit slightly hopeful by the end but.... goddammit. Also wonderful video.
@storytellers17 жыл бұрын
I have to give credit to one of the author's of the articles I used for this video. I had no idea that they were the same actors (puberty, right?) and it blew my mind. They're not listed as playing the same characters but I'm pretty sure that's what we're supposed to think. Only fitting to have them play two 'unnamed rebels', as they were 'nobody's children' after all... - Thomas
@TheGeorgeD137 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, if they were real people, that was likely to be their reality, regardless. Terrible times.
@leiram88335 жыл бұрын
They died as heroes
@ajhetzel7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, as a public school teacher I admire the pacing and stylistic choices you make to communicate to your audience. I look forward to watching more of your work and learning. Cheers.
@24FramesOfNick7 жыл бұрын
So close to 100k guys!! Super glad to see y'all reach this amazing milestone!
@storytellers17 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick. Also, I'm beginning to suspect that you're some kind of an omnipresent being... - Thomas
@24FramesOfNick7 жыл бұрын
Storytellers lmfao! Is that because you're also seeing me in the comments of almost every vid? I'm getting that a lot lately
@storytellers17 жыл бұрын
Yup lol, and not just on other video essay channels, completely random one's as well I believe.
@Hater01827 жыл бұрын
Buddy story tellers is so amazing it puts any academic paper on movies to shame. I really appreciate the analysis and the soundtrack on the vids. Unreal.
@HxH2011DRA7 жыл бұрын
Storytellers He's like me, ceot outside the anime community XD
@00HoODBoy7 жыл бұрын
Sometimes when i look at my documents im actually amazed how highly i regard pans Labyrinth. Great Video.
@laurahenriksen195 жыл бұрын
This was beautifully done. And very emotionally driven. I have both of these films along with The Orphanage. Cronos and others I too love... What a gifted and articulate man he is. Thank you for this wonderful synopsis.
@Grey2497 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best film video essays I've seen. Obviously a lot of effort was put in in terms of historical research, literature, culture, and symbolism. No fly-by comments, but a very thorough, thought-provoking analysis. Well done! Subscribed!
@chickendrawsdogs33435 жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful, this video. I have not watched (or dare not watch to be more precise) the two films because, well, I don't cope well with trauma, but you still manage to get the point across, and dare I say, motivated me to give the movies a shot. I might not come out unscathed, so wish me luck.
@hbnnbvbbsbdb5957 Жыл бұрын
JORDAN PETERSON? dawg nooo 💀💀
@amanbytheway6 жыл бұрын
I thought Cronos was the first of Del Toro's trilogy? Cronos, Devils Backbone and finally Pans Labyrinth. Cronos is considered Del Toro's first movie after all. Either way, nice work on the vid, here's my Haiku Review: How pain may be seen Guillermo del Toro knows Trauma feels heavy
@Kwijiboz6 жыл бұрын
Both of my grandfathers fought in the Spanish Civil War, and I grew up hearing stories about the hard times of the post-war period, so these movies have something extra special to me
@kirasussane15563 жыл бұрын
Is a shame many people look down upon horror when the genre is capable of dealing with trauma so well. What other genre is more capable of dealing with unresolved and repressed trauma?!?! As for Guillermo del Toro i think he is a genius, he was capable of taking the usual elements of horror and fantasy and turned them upside down showing the deep within these elements. I watched" The devil Backbone" when I was a teenager and quickly became obsessed with the themes in the movie. Themes that even now more that a decade later are still important to me.
@ericktellez76323 жыл бұрын
How do you feel about the fact that he is Mexican?
@TaraDobbs7 жыл бұрын
I never knew of The Devil's Backbone. I must find a copy and replace my lost copy of Pan's Labyrinth. Thank you for making this video. It was a great review for my own current work.
@jacobv84475 жыл бұрын
What a video essay. Seriously my friend, Bravo. Absolutely beautiful.
@liawatson57897 жыл бұрын
I love Pan's Labyrinth!
@WOLVES28203 жыл бұрын
Same
@YamiSpyroX7 жыл бұрын
It's like with Daniel Krauss's/Guillermo del Toro's Trollhunters(The 2015 book not the DreamWorks Netflix cartoon) delved into the trauma of losing your loved ones and struggling with the idea that they're still there and showing the harsh reality of the history of war albeit in a mythical sense. I could also say the Pale Man is highly similar to Gunmar the Black as a gluttonous demonic being that devours children. Despite TrollHunters looking like a children's fantasy book it's actually incredibly gruesome and freaky like Pan's Labyrinth is. Too bad DreamWorks just had to change and Water it down to the point that the protagonist Jim Sturges isn't even himself anymore! With is both sad and unbelievable since Guilmello Del Toro himself was heavily involved in the pilot! I have to deal with that trauma now!
@storytellers17 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation! I hadn't heard of the book version and it sounds mighty interesting. I've put it in my basket to purchase later! - Thomas
@Ninaloasana7 жыл бұрын
oh my god, who dislike this video???? I've watched both of the movies, but now i see it in a completely different perspective. what a masterpiece. great vid by the way
@ddietz87783 жыл бұрын
A really great video essay! I knew the movies were set together, but never noticed the parallels in their set up, costume choice, and even returning actors! The actors of Carlos and Jaime especially - it isn’t clear cut if it’s the same universe, but it doesn’t really matter; as much as I wanted the kids to have a happy end after leaving the orphanage, the only realistic way their lives would play out would be in the war. And I never considered that (I didn’t even think about the implications!). Anyway, I absolutely agree, these films are great, apart or together, spinning such fantastic narratives rich with symbolism.
@overworkedcna4125 жыл бұрын
I feel like people totally forget about the Spanish civil war, and the fact that Franco’s cronies still have their hands in the government’s pockets TO THIS DAY. Once, I became pretty good friends (un unlikely friendship actually) with an older Spanish gentleman. He was an alcoholic and so was I at the time, and we bonded because we were always at the same bar and also because I speak Spanish. He always wore all black - black pants, black shirt, always. At first I thought it might just be coincidence, or that maybe he just didn’t have many clothes, but then I realized it was definitely a deliberate choice. I asked him once if he was in mourning and he said “yes.” I asked him who he lost and he said, “My country.” He had worn black ever since the war and he never stopped. That chilled me to the bone. I think about him all the time. I wonder if he’s dead now. He sought solace in drink, just as every alcoholic does. There’s nobody happy at the bar at 11 a.m. But more than anything, I hope he’s finally found peace somehow.
@mandril15 жыл бұрын
Overworked CNA Spain has been is a democratic country for 40 years. That kind of discourse is used by the left and separatists to undermine any goverment from center-right. It's just a political tool, an acusation which has nothing to do with reality. The left is hurt because it was the right and the king who made the transition to democracy possible. It was not easy, we had terrorism and violence on both sides, but it was done, thanks to ALL spanish people. The ones who say Spain is not a full democracry are just disloyal to their own country.
@DimoB85 жыл бұрын
@@mandril1 the events at the Catalonian referendum doesn't seem that Democratic.
@ramona.vargas72987 жыл бұрын
This was a Great Historical, & Cenimatic analysis.
@theuberman71705 жыл бұрын
He should adapt "for whom the bell tolls"
@mariapanopoulou51644 жыл бұрын
I've watched this video of yours over and over again. Such a great job you did there sir. Huge thank you.
@communistjesus7 жыл бұрын
Guillermo Del Toro aka William of the Bull is AWESOME
@lyhniiee7 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for your critique of these movies I only watched pans labyrinth but i thoroughly enjoyed your side by side analysis of them! keep going ! i love seeing your channel grow :)
@storytellers17 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Even though you've now been spoiled on the events of The Devil's Backbone I would still highly recommend you watch it at some point. I was already aware of the plot lines prior to my first viewing as well, yet it was still a highly satisfactory experience (especially when watched together with Pan's Labyrinth). - Thomas
@theRiver_joan7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video man. It's hard to explain, but it was one of the things that sent me spiraling out into a bunch of philosophical and psychological reading (especially Jung) that helped get me out of a really deep depression. I've always been inclined to try and understand those kinds of things anyways, but given the "trauma" in my life, and the repressions in my life, I just resigned to nihilism. This really inspired me in a pretty dark time.
@storytellers17 жыл бұрын
Great to hear, Joseph! I'd definitely recommend Jordan B Peterson's work in case you don't already follow him! - Thomas
@doddsd1237 жыл бұрын
I truly respect this you put so much detail into breaking down beauty to the math or sceince of the art thus highlighting the art itself. I want to begin to do this with music more specificly rap and make art with this detail u inspire me
@lucemus17 жыл бұрын
The Devils Backbone and Pan's labirynth are two movies i've had and watched for some time, never knew they were works of Del Toro, neato!
@alexgarcia1709 Жыл бұрын
The 3rd film is Pinocchio and it’s the saddest Pinocchio I’ve ever seen.
@jasperappler84727 жыл бұрын
Wonderful, Wonderful! Your exploration of these two films, of the gothic and the fairytale, are fantastic. I've always been a big fan of Pans Labyrinth, though i hadn't seen The Devil's Backbone. This discussion has been a tremendous aid for my own current writing project. thanks and great work :)
@benw44096 жыл бұрын
The fact that so many people are debating whether or not del Toro has already done his third film in this trilogy is a clear sign of a master filmmaker. Great video.
@trojanette83455 жыл бұрын
Great narration and analysis. You brought up a lot of good points that I had not thought of before. Thank you for sharing.
@noahosborn1249 Жыл бұрын
I love how pinnochio was the third in the trilogy
@jayne53856 жыл бұрын
You should make a video about Del Toro's The Shape of Water and how it fits into this pattern with his movies
@pga1287 жыл бұрын
This was so so good. Thank you for making it. Being Spanish I especially enjoyed it.
@BloodyGir76 жыл бұрын
Wow this video is absolutely amazing, great job :') I really like Del Toros' work and you just put everything together wonderfully
@KuR585 жыл бұрын
These two movies will always have a special place in my heart :')
@Jjrmtv7 жыл бұрын
this is a masterpiece... brilliant. I am a scriptwriter and can only hope my current script (same use of themes and allegory) can have the same impact of these films do
@Poodleinacan7 жыл бұрын
My grandfather on my father's side and his family were in Catalonia, during the civil war. His family were part of the rebellion. One of his uncles even one day disappeared to never be hear of again. My grandfather was pretty young then, but he had a gun to protect him, even if that gun was deactivated. They eventually fled to France (where his father went in a Nazi work camp and he later had to remind the Nazi in charge about his time contract having been completed once it was).
@chelscara9 ай бұрын
It’s kinda wild to hear about Peterson before his current persona, really interesting honestly
@gg8293 жыл бұрын
Me at 00:00 - "Looks promising" Me at 4:05 - "This is great, might even subscribe" Me at 7:24 - "...aaaaaand I'm out..."
@ericktellez76323 жыл бұрын
yep, I made a "eww" face as soon as his photo showed up.
@susaedu3685 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this brilliant video. Very introspective and clarifying
@samuelemerson70175 жыл бұрын
one of my favorite directors of all time
@TakeMeToYourCinema7 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this. What did you think of Crimson Peak? I know it's reception was fairly mixed, but I think very highly of it. I can think we can see many of the same themes of repressed trauma and pathological ideology that you mentioned, but perhaps they lose their power when removed explicitly from a specific historical context. Nonetheless, I think it's treatment of an incestuous, stunted and entombed culture that can only survive throughout the exploitation of other classes is quite interesting - it's also a lot of fun, as a film.
@storytellers17 жыл бұрын
I'm actually about to watch it for the first time tonight! I'm excited and I'll make sure to get back to you after I finish watching it! - Thomas
@MedicMain97 жыл бұрын
I loved it, it's a great movie
@storytellers17 жыл бұрын
Ok, I ended up watching it yesterday and I have to say I enjoyed it for the most part. Setting, costume and set design were top notch as on would expect from del Toro. However, I felt like the surface level story wasn't executed as well as I'd hoped for. Especially the second half of the film showed some flaws imo, the mystery was made obvious quite early on and in a somewhat heavy-handed way. I also thought some of the character motivations, emotions and actions seemed unreal in the second half. It began feeling more like a play than a film. But perhaps this was the point as it's a traditional gothic romance. I felt like the mix between gothic horror and romance could have been executed better, although I don't have the words atm to point out exactly how. This mix felt very natural and right in The Devil's Backbone and Pan's Labyrinth but something was just off here. It also rehashed the ghost story of The Devil's Backbone, which is not a bad thing at all, but because the latter was better executed it fell rather flat for me. The lack of historical context definitely played a part in this. There was a lack of real emotion behind these ghosts imo. The pain was there, but the feeling of trauma was nonexistent. I realize I'm being rather critical of the film, but don't get me wrong, I did actually enjoy watching most of it and I don't think it's horrible in the slightest. I do like what you say about the allegories about culture, and I'd have to watch it again in a more analytical way to appreciate that more. I guess I just had a different expectation of what it was going to be... - Thomas
@OlgaGax7 жыл бұрын
Take Me To Your Cinema I'm sure the mixed reception was mostly due to the witless marketing and promotion for the film. They let the public think it would be a horror movie like the Ring or paranormal activity. Jump scares, suspense, and no substance but adrenaline and cheap fear. A lot of people who went to see it were disappointed because they've been promised something else entirely. I almost did see it because i thought it would be a horror flick. Thankfully even the trailers couldn't hide the gorgeous cinematography, which convinced me to see it.
@Roman-hg6rg7 жыл бұрын
An excellent analysis and discussion. Really nicely researched and presented. :)
@lisathomas16226 жыл бұрын
i cried.. this was a wonderful explanation.. thank you.
@chiragsolucky75143 жыл бұрын
This video alone deserves an applause!
@palcada6 жыл бұрын
This helped me to understand the brilliance of Crimson Peak so much better.
@EliseWongCreations7 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your breakdown of these films. It really touches your heart on an inspiring, eye opening level :)
@storytellers17 жыл бұрын
Thank you Elise!
@CulturalCurfew7 жыл бұрын
Damn this was good, I was in the works for making an analysis of the orphanage and your editing gave me a lot of ideas! Keep up the good work :)
@storytellers17 жыл бұрын
Thanks, the orphanage is another great one as well. Not directed by del Toro, but you can definitely see his influence as a producer. Also, a lot spookier than your average del Toro flick I'd say! - Thomas
@kaitlynatown7 жыл бұрын
This was brilliant, thank you!
@WeRNthisToGetHer5 жыл бұрын
This man has such a deep mind and spirit.
@Beansareamagicalfruit7 жыл бұрын
So happy I've found this channel
@ED-cl7nl7 жыл бұрын
That was good, nice work ! To improve however, I think you should work on clarity. As a non native english speaker, I always understand directly what other channels such as Nerdwriter, Channel Chriswell, LFTS, EFAP are trying to demonstrate. With your videos however, I sometimes need to go back and hear what you have said one or two times again. This deserves the quality of your analysis, I think. It's only natural since you aren't a native speaker either, but if you try and improve that, you'll have your place amongst the greats ;)
@storytellers17 жыл бұрын
internet anonymous Thanks! I'm trying to improve my enunciation with every video (I tend to talk fast and slur over words if I don't pay attention). Also, I'm a non-native myself so that probably has something to do with it. I'd suggest you use my own added subtitles if you aren't already! - Thomas
@claudiacastrillon44407 жыл бұрын
internet anonymous I have the same problem I speak spanish
@MedicMain97 жыл бұрын
I barely speak English (I'm form Brazil) but I can understand him with little to no effort, just watch more videos on his channel
@superdrag656 жыл бұрын
These movies are masterpieces. This was a beautiful video, thank you so much.
@hugocardenasulloa33347 жыл бұрын
Really good, thank you for this video.
@thiccboss47807 жыл бұрын
i love this video it's melancholy but somewhat good
@LiTtLeJuNe3 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Such a great video, very interesting ! I never realized that Jaime and Carlos were in Pan's Labyrinth. It's so sad...
@Zentagon7 жыл бұрын
Pretty well done video! Definitely could tell how much you love these movies
@storytellers17 жыл бұрын
Thanks, tbh I had never seen The Devil's Backbone prior to the making of this video. I had heard of it but never gotten around to watching it. I feel bad that it took me so long because it's a great film that deserves more attention. - Thomas
@GreatFlamingEyebrows_7 жыл бұрын
Watched the devils backbone after seeing it. It was incredible!!!
@ElsieAlkurabi7 жыл бұрын
WOAH that editing! Great job guys!
@storytellers17 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching again Elsie! - Thomas
@SkScarlet5 жыл бұрын
Que buen video!!! estoy ansiosa por la 3ra parte..
@RobertSlover5 жыл бұрын
wonderful and insightful analysis well done man!
@jarekkorytkowski64024 жыл бұрын
Cronos is really the first one, then Devils Backbone and finally Pans Labyrinth
@raymondanguiano8345 Жыл бұрын
Is pinnochio the third movie now?
@LeSnowManMC5 жыл бұрын
Great job on analyzing these films. A++
@ScetathGaming7 жыл бұрын
Wow I am really impressed with this video. Good job! Keep it up i am already looking forward to the next one
@nanajiloh6 жыл бұрын
Oh boy that was HEAVY
@TheAutomotiveKid5 жыл бұрын
I was curious about the trilogy you had mentioned, and it appears that Cronos was the first of the trilogy. I could be wrong though. I haven’t seen the first two films. Only Pan’s labyrinth. I’ll be checking them out though. Thanks to this video. Lol
@Beforethecredits7 жыл бұрын
Great video Guys. I'm still holding out for a coffee mug with the new channel art.
@demidecano88874 жыл бұрын
Pan's Labyrinth is a masterpiece ❤️❤️❤️
@tricaurelie5 жыл бұрын
A very compelling video. Loved it!
@tabbycat69485 жыл бұрын
The last film I believe is crimson peak which fully explores ghosts and their colour
@SYfusionproductions7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant analysis!
@storytellers17 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude! - Thomas
@chinbrows62452 жыл бұрын
it was going well until I saw Jordan Pete pop up out of nowhere
@sandrols72 жыл бұрын
I don't quite know what your opinion is of Dr. P., but in this particular essay, that particular example kind of worked? So... yeah.
@imaginewaffles13182 жыл бұрын
@@sandrols7 sure, but Jordan Peterson is a hack
@sandrols72 жыл бұрын
@@imaginewaffles1318 i take back what little credit I had given to Dr. P., and you are right, he is. In fact, the very example used here by JP was apparently basically stolen from someone else. still, if you zone out that particular moment this is still a pretty good video.
@bloodbarage5 жыл бұрын
He is one of the greatest of all time.
@mAnGaLoVeR4eV25365 жыл бұрын
This was stunning. Absolutely stunning. Thank you.
@cat1mouse25 жыл бұрын
Damn this was a good ass video I really enjoyed it and it opened my eyes to aspects about Pan’s Labyrinth (I haven’t seen the devil’s backbone but I will now) thank you!