KarQ: 'losing his mind' Flats: We can't end on loss
@maritxuhh9 ай бұрын
5:14 Enemy zarya going 14-15 vs Flats' 38-7 and saying "tank diff", I want that confidence
@mng86809 ай бұрын
As a tank player, I sometimes have better k/d than enemy tank and my teammates still say tank diff after losing. Its usually the teammates with the most deaths which are most vocal too. Many people playing this game are biased to always blame teammates for failures and not look at the stats.
@itsOZone9 ай бұрын
@@mng8680 stats really dont tell the whole story, ive found they mean even less this season than last seasons. Lots of wins where the stats say we should have lost but we won.
@mng86809 ай бұрын
@@itsOZone But stats do tell a part of it in an objective manner, more reliable than how any individual player feels how the game went based on what they personally witnessed. Much more often than not, the team which won had better k/d and damage based on my experience with hundreds of games. Besides k/d, objective contest time is the next biggest factor. If a team manage to contest objective a long time despite being temporarily outnumbered cause of worse k/d, then it might buy them enough time to take objective the next time they win the fight.
@ohmyyyy9 ай бұрын
Its a joke.
@ChrisCarlos649 ай бұрын
Even stranger is looking at the scoreboard, blue has positive KDA where Red only had 2 KDAs positive and the rest negative. This is further proof how the scoreboard doesn't tell the whole story, and people have to stop calling it out. IMO it should have a "reset" for the overall scoreboard every round. It should be pertinent information for that round only, because taking previous rounds into account matter not for the current round. You should be able to view that information, but it should be on another "page" or after the final round of the game. Tabbing should show the current round and its current info. Then we should fix what it shows, but I don't know if they'll ever do that.
@ZestyBobcat_OW9 ай бұрын
the way they started fucking losing their mind was kinda funny
@corrodan29959 ай бұрын
Comp is wild, you either roll, or get rolled endlessly and that nasty loss streak debuff is terrible.
@okwardmexican38009 ай бұрын
Wanna know what’s funny, the uphill battle barely does anything, just 5 more extra points, if it’s an uphill battle and your giving me an average of 20 then fuck me I guess 🙃
@Theredmengroup9 ай бұрын
I really don’t understand why they kick you while your down
@DOG-zc4vh9 ай бұрын
Well... fair. You're either on one side of the coin(roll) or the other(rolled)
@rioriorio179 ай бұрын
@@okwardmexican3800well it means they have a team that is just slightly better, it’s not like they’re team is an entire rank above you
@rioriorio179 ай бұрын
Most of my games this season have been super close, I’ve been keeping track of it, idk. I think you just tend to remember the games that you got rolled or you rolled more than close games.
@Rohndogg19 ай бұрын
Watching you guys struggle too makes me feel so much better
@FishyTheKid9 ай бұрын
happens to everyone.
@kittylover8689 ай бұрын
this season is really rough lol
@DontBeBad9 ай бұрын
@@FishyTheKid i've stayed the same rank around d5-3
@Medicsus9 ай бұрын
@@DontBeBad I would argue its easier to climb back to diamond
@Chaoticaddy9 ай бұрын
At the start of the season I easily climbed out of silver to gold. Now I’m hard stuck gold 😭😭 the win to lose ratio SUCKSS
@Enhydra_l9 ай бұрын
Drill Sargent flats is a new thing for me and I love it.
@FireflyArc9 ай бұрын
11:37 was motivationall i gotta say.
@epicnate08andthefallboyz409 ай бұрын
Yeah that sucks In my experience ranked feels very annoying. I have gone on win streaks before then lost one match and dropped by over a whole rank. I don't know if it's just me but it feels terrible to go on a win streak just to lose one match and lose all of that progress in one match
@Daxiongmao879 ай бұрын
I lost a rank and a half with three negative modifiers once. I took a break
@ryansantana1689 ай бұрын
Bro i Got 72% loss after a win streak💀💀💀
@ryansantana1689 ай бұрын
My friend lost 50%
@porkiousttv9 ай бұрын
Lost around 130% from one match the other day. It’s wild
@skarhn62159 ай бұрын
It’s literally just tank and mostly only tank. If someone is having bad games as dps which I couldn’t understand why in THEIR season. Just a skill issue tbh lol
@mohsven53549 ай бұрын
Flats : we can't end on a loss Also Flats after a win : we play until we lose
@SovietunionDIO9 ай бұрын
Next video is “this is how I fell into diamond after 8 years”
@averagegamer88509 ай бұрын
2:33 I guess we found out why the reimu Fumo had depression, because she had to play tank in season 9
@Fluffyguy9589 ай бұрын
Won a game in overtime last night. We got absolutely steamrolled on defense, stumbled our way to the end on offense, got decently far with our one minute timer and then held off the other team for 5 minutes on their attempt and somehow won. Got nothing for it. Every game is 20 percent for me.
@ThatGuyCanmanNC9 ай бұрын
SAMEE. Every game i win, i get no more than 20, usually like 19 or less. Then when i lose, suddenly its -24 or something.
@maneater9 ай бұрын
fighting tooth and nail just to see that dumbass 20%. even uphill battles only give 2-3 more percent. insane.
@Tactify249 ай бұрын
I've won 27/34 games on tank this season and the most I've gone up is 30 (I'm on a 10 win streak right now and just went up 29)
@asimplewizard9 ай бұрын
Noooo if you complain they'll take it away again 😂 This is how it always was.
@bleh-wk8pn9 ай бұрын
the game is only fun in arcade tbh. ive had a 50/50 game maybe twice ever, you either get rolled or you roll them. and its not fun being either team bc no one likes to be held up in spawn all game and no one likes being able to plow through the team and instantly win. thats what vs ai is for lol
@bloodmemes9 ай бұрын
meanwhile im fighting for my life with my teeth and nails to stay in gold 5, tank solo queue this season is MISERABLE
@Rohndogg19 ай бұрын
Hard facts. Solo tanking is ROUGH and very dependent on the DPS you get grouped with
@carolean32069 ай бұрын
same for the past week
@lovonix9 ай бұрын
doesnt matter the rank, solo queue as tank is horrible
@MrrVlad9 ай бұрын
solo queue as any role is horrible - you get a team of average solos, not in voice, against good, coordinated 3+ stacks. WTB true solo-only queue.
@ARCEUS493ZELDA9 ай бұрын
im the same but as support............ cant get off of bronze/silver as tank/dps cuz the game keeps pairing me with a bunch of idiots that dont know how to focus target properly
@harryjackson96129 ай бұрын
I dont think ive ever seen flats so passionate about the game
@PrsOG75049 ай бұрын
Nothing like playing ranked and getting expected on every win and reversal on every loss
@cyborkninja11399 ай бұрын
fr
@Chaoticaddy9 ай бұрын
The expected thing shouldn’t even exist it’s so dumb 😞😞 unless the enemy teams ranks are significantly lower than yours then it shouldn’t count towards your percentage
@ontos89149 ай бұрын
Great mechanic honestly
@xaniso69559 ай бұрын
Literally this shit happens. I go on rollercoasters too and I swear OW is the only game that will kick you in the Wrecking Balls one day, while giving you a win streak higher than a Pharah rocket jump the next. Despite that, OW has those moments. Those small, golden, incredible moments that feel just incredible. Sometimes it's two Rein Chads showing mutual respect, other times it could be entire teams lining up in a conga line and all hopping off the map. Then rarely you become an literal god and wipe away all who stand before you. That's Overwatch magic and damn if it doesn't round out the sharpness of the bad days.
@legojay149 ай бұрын
Blizzard has that effect. People want desperately to have those moments of community loving it with all their heart. But the company doesn't have the passion to allow it to happen more often
@Gerolix7 ай бұрын
lol yeah I recently played a comp where we all ended up watching a doom 1v1 on point
@ryanwoods96089 ай бұрын
Flats all locked in and cursing up like a Chad. And Im here for it
@Megandalil9 ай бұрын
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who's suffering from endless losses, makes me glad to know a top 500 is also suffering from this
@JoshieTaylor22076 ай бұрын
14:28 That is one of the best timed dragons I have ever seen. Good job
@Scordizzy9 ай бұрын
Flats’ leadership at Circuit Royale was inspirational
@7eddit9 ай бұрын
I would be annoyed af if that was in my ear
@incredibilis73548 ай бұрын
@@7eddit dont worry your a low rank no one talks in silver so its not gonna be an issue for you
@poga239 ай бұрын
This is probably one of your best videos. What a treat
@Ron742_9 ай бұрын
According to the 300 games KMK tracked for you, two stack is your highest win rate, trio and solo the worst. Win rate by some streamers: KarQ: 51.68%, Eskay: 55.10%, Emongg: 55.26%, Jay3: 56%, Wanted: 56%, Aspen: 56%
@ryanwoods96089 ай бұрын
This is my experience of late. Last night I played sigma because the enemy was running double sniper, I got 26k damage in 14 minutes absolutely controlling the front line and by the end I faced all sigma counters while my DPS kept chain feeding. This morning I got an email that I am banned for a month presumably because I was getting reported for "throwing". There is literally 0 reason to play tank anymore, you get 0 help or gratitude and all the blame.
@legojay149 ай бұрын
Blizzard would buff the shit out of tanks by tomorrow if they on mass stopped playing. You can't start games without one. Blizzard has no incentive to buff them if tank players allow such a miserable experience
@bleh-wk8pn9 ай бұрын
there should be like a forced role in qp so ppl have to play an unfamiliar role once in a while. i main dps/support and i played tank a few times and it was the worst game experience ever. if u werent getting discorded and melted the minute you peek, ur getting slept any time you join the fight
@VetriVade9 ай бұрын
Bro used a slur
@hinatasninetailedfox9 ай бұрын
It sucks you cannot carry on tank anymore. I lost a game the other day as Zarya went 38-1 with 17k damage their tank went 18-11 with about 12k damage. But our tracer went 13-19 compared to their teams tracer who went 27-6. It's like playing out of your mind on tank gives your team the most opportunity to make game winning plays but if they don't there's nothing you can do to overcome that gap on your own.
@Shibbylovess9 ай бұрын
I honestly love this video. From showing your vulnerability to showing us that even the best are struggling with the changes. Also I love KarQ collabs
@LucciOW9 ай бұрын
Bro those streams with you and KarQ on a losing streak and then trying to climb back up were some of the best streams I've watched ngl
@1Light149 ай бұрын
hahahaa overwatch 2 season 9 tank players are all literally licking walls at this point (me included) do not engage. survive at all costs lmao love your stuf Flats keep it up cheers
@numilani9 ай бұрын
Flats out here turning into a middle-aged little league coach dad in VC :D
@astroilluminati23399 ай бұрын
Dude the speeches Flats gave gave me hope for my tank games 😂 made my day 😂
@tekaupapa42479 ай бұрын
that circuit royale game was INSANEEEE
@mepd33509 ай бұрын
11:58 HAHHAHAHA KARQ'S "YEESS YEEESSS" is so fucking perfect
@irotcivi88729 ай бұрын
Holy shit flats locked in making calls is amazing to see
@Vel_Vivi9 ай бұрын
FemboyTyrone was the enemy genji in the first redemption game, but then was the friendly genji in the second redemption game
@Madeline-di4wh9 ай бұрын
I was on diamond 1 last season I’m in diamond 5 now and all my games have former GM players it’s rough in this rank
@theepicqronictraxxgary79829 ай бұрын
Look at the T500 leaderboard it starts at low to mid masters every role every region
@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong9 ай бұрын
@@theepicqronictraxxgary7982Yeah, its rough for people who somehow placed Masters. As they're going up against even better players now
@josephquinto58129 ай бұрын
@@theepicqronictraxxgary7982 They need to fix the distribution. Low masters should not harbor Top 500s lol. How many people are in champion? 3?
@Cerby009 ай бұрын
Glad i havent touched comp since season 4, this meta makes me wanna comit war crimes
@RatziFatzi9 ай бұрын
Actually its most of the Time not that Bad... Its Pretty good in most times... But you have your Lost Streaks... With the Card system you did also have sometimes 3-12 until you got your Update... And now... A Bunch of People gets Deranked, and Matched together again... We have to wait until all People are there where they have to be... In Gold you find so many Diamond and Masters Players atm.
@Cerby009 ай бұрын
@@Hogonetrickdamn its almost like i can figure out the annoying heroes are strong(tracer sombra zen) and not want to play cause i play tanks
@snipeyounoobzyee26629 ай бұрын
I haven’t played overwatch comp since overwatch 1 season 4 i think
@Miniduck90138 ай бұрын
@@Hogonetrickyour the problem
@Miniduck90138 ай бұрын
@@Hogonetrick great comeback💀
@CTNine9 ай бұрын
I needed this energy today Flats. Thank you xD
@AarPlays9 ай бұрын
Poor guy was like "i got nervous, i didn't except you guys"
@rees10589 ай бұрын
"He's such a sweet boy!" had me laughing out loud.
@semosesam9 ай бұрын
Awesome edit! Saw the come back live and instantly knew this was going to make a great video.
@Chaotichero1119 ай бұрын
that’s the craziest flats rein gameplay I have seen in A WHIIIILEEEEE.
@leekyb38379 ай бұрын
This the most relatable video you’ve put out yet lmao
@greatwhitnorth9 ай бұрын
This is caused by the constant tank counterswap and lack of tank carry potential
@lnsz-fps-87949 ай бұрын
Tank counterswap honestly barely makes a diference, as long as youre able to perform your role (Like flats did playing DVa VS zarya). But every single role has and impact (Usually a negative one if a player isnt being able to perform his role)
@greatwhitnorth9 ай бұрын
@@lnsz-fps-8794 no
@Jinta_Hungyu9 ай бұрын
In this video they got rolled so bad that Karq was losing it then in comes Giga Chad Flats here keeping Karq sane by truly gaming lock in.
@thunderhog459 ай бұрын
Bro made Rein look meta on Circuit Royal. Impressive lol
@santiagosuarezmorales21519 ай бұрын
Actually one of the funniest videos I've seen you upload lol
@tristalien9 ай бұрын
bro this is the best flats video yet, i was dying laughing
@noahm67829 ай бұрын
11:31 , flashbacks to some "different" overwatch content i view on a another website..........
@jonissues19149 ай бұрын
lmao this has to be one of your best videos lmao Flats was MOTIVATED at the end.
@kevincastro8259 ай бұрын
Honestly i like these videos where flats locks the f in 🤣
@KrisFalcon9 ай бұрын
I love how the insanity turned to hype 😂 Had me cracking up
@Katastrophe90099 ай бұрын
NGL, Flat's mentality towards the middle of the video is probably the best attitude you can have while doing anything competitive. Don't think of yourself as the loser, envision yourself as the winner, even if you have to fake it for your teammates, then manifest that feeling into reality.
@gubergames89969 ай бұрын
1:17 the timing of that widow shot, I’m dead 😂😂
@tritonbard77049 ай бұрын
It’s so crazy that they have the volatile thing where you go really far down if you lose right after you rank up but there isn’t something for going really far up if you win right after you rank down. It just feels like the game generally doesn’t want you to rank up. Like it always feels like you’re punished more than rewarded.
@VideoKingist9 ай бұрын
2:55, oh hello Bowie😅
@DirtyCommieMedia9 ай бұрын
11:02 that "fuck you" was PERSONAL lmao
@Luis-lo8pj9 ай бұрын
Im so glad that its not just me. You either roll or get rolled there is no in between. This season of OW actually makes me want to stop playing.
@AMolina-e9m9 ай бұрын
The amount of times I play tank and have my entire teams stats combined with 1/4 the deaths as the enemy apologizes on behalf of blizzard and my team. It is actually crazy how little impact you have on winning as tank if you play incredible, but will always lose if you play bad. I just stopped playing for multiple seasons, back to Reddit Lucio I go. How am I hardstuck plat on my main, then make an alt and get to masters with an 80% winrate on 5 heroes literally trolling the enemy 0 effort, I got teammates who weren’t mouthbreathing mongoloids, it actually showed me that you can’t carry enough to rank up some seasons, or that there is a shadowban system in place, because I’m very toxic in my main, but not my alt, because i get actual human beings on my team, when I say I’d go 58-2 as my teammates go 7-17, 4-13 1-9 regularly, I felt shadowbanned, my friends tell me the account is cursed, I’m not the only one who’s noticed. Having GM players add me to ask “let’s duo GM what’s ur main?” Just for me to cry myself to sleep knowing I’m barely diamond on tank.. I can’t explain the feeling.. it’s enough to break a man Fuck tank.
@amandopurperhart13519 ай бұрын
Thanks flats and karq, I feel much better now about dropping to Diamond from masters 2 (this season). Ended gm 5 last season.
@BigOwl519 ай бұрын
This video is a prime example of why flats is one of the biggest Overwatch creators
@iceman0679 ай бұрын
The best flats vid I HAVE ever seen
@reagansido58239 ай бұрын
Near the end you can hear Flats losing his voice. It somehow makes me feel bad for him? Like, I can hear it in his voice how this is affecting him.
@srikrishnabhat67939 ай бұрын
2:30 I still remember ML7 and Kragie having a similar conversation after a long loss streak at the start of the season, just replace Flats with ML7 and a despairing KarQ with a despairing Kragie XD
@stay3328gd9 ай бұрын
im never seen flats and karq SO focused before, this is insane
@skullaroidgaming18008 ай бұрын
Dude the pure pain in KarQ’s voice talking about dropping to diamond is fucking sending me it’s so genuine
@claytontaylor93479 ай бұрын
It's been a while since i've seen @Flats get serious and lock in. Good form!
@Lucuman919 ай бұрын
11:31 when everything reminds you of him 😭
@MT_FIN9 ай бұрын
I love this level of enthusiasm
@AAznawi10129 ай бұрын
That was super entertaining Flats! Especially the pep talk! 😂
@daltonhuebner72299 ай бұрын
One of the best flats videos that I have ever seen. The hyping and commentary reminds me of the flats/emongg duo copium back in OW1. Way to send it.
@triggeredpotato72149 ай бұрын
Straight off the bat I like how he doesn’t use just stats to say “hur dur, I was better bad teammates” the dude straight out takes accountability. Wish there was more of that in OW2
@MrJulz009 ай бұрын
Love the determination at the half of the video. Let's go!!!
@pvmslayer7426Ай бұрын
That kings row 3rd round was some peak Reinhardt gaming
@jrod99189 ай бұрын
I fell back to plat for the first time since release of ow2 and it hurt to see. Comp games are rough this season.
@cactuscian9 ай бұрын
High level players were sayin that high ranks didn't feel exclusive? Blizzard said hold my entire keg of beer
@sigmachad53319 ай бұрын
dude the comms on circuit royale was incredible.
@Switch_X_Back38849 ай бұрын
Absolutely hilarious chat. Loved it
@jacksao38059 ай бұрын
11:00 what all rein mains lives for
@upsidedowndoggo32429 ай бұрын
We are so back, I haven’t been this locked in playing overwatch since 2019. Love this season
@Velo2989 ай бұрын
glad to see that, im not the only who has fallen quite far down the ranks
@EleventhLetter_Casino9 ай бұрын
Man, using the Under Night OST as background music is just *chef's kiss* 👌
@jaubee9 ай бұрын
The hammer down followed by the “fuck you” at the Cass ult . I felt that
@JamaalSands-t8m9 ай бұрын
By far my favorite Flats video.
@cynnabunTV9 ай бұрын
5:48 the kobe and shaq comment made me scream
@itzrasti9 ай бұрын
Flats flooding coms
@JonCrowVO9 ай бұрын
This is the kind of energy I want to see while playing.
@williamjohansen79769 ай бұрын
That was the greatest Flats vid ive ever seen
@thehaterade619 ай бұрын
motivation flats is who i need in my life more
@hinatasninetailedfox9 ай бұрын
I feel like tank diff doesn't matter the same way in OW2 as it did in OW1. In OW1 the team with better tank synergy usually won. In OW2 the better tank sets their team up for the most opportunity to play well enough to win but you can longer solo carry on tank the same way. A patch or so ago it was usually which team has the better support synergy that would dictate who won the match. Now with how important the DPS passive is it's 100% the DPS that dictate the wins of the match. It's why comps with low healing can function so well and it sucks too knowing that you can play out of your mind on tank and all that does is give your team the best chance to follow through but if you have a tracer that's like 4-11 you're not winning that match even if you go 38-1 on tank and that feels bad.
@mrzefs44639 ай бұрын
Just remember, karq was 1 game away from being able to queue with gold players
@joshuataylor50809 ай бұрын
I feel your pain. I had a 5 hr long loss streak. 2 hours in comp, 3 in quickplay. At the end of it I wasn't even tilted anymore. I just wanted to see how long it was going to go.
@TheRealOrijang9 ай бұрын
Flats starts to compare themselves to basketball teams and I instantly didn't know what was going on lmao
@SumGai9 ай бұрын
Nathan can always pull defeat from the jaws of victory. Never forget that.
@Scynn4 ай бұрын
The struggle, the losing of minds, the inspirational speech! and most importantly, the REIN!
@thomasandrade2619 ай бұрын
the "every game it´s just a dps player killing all my teammates" it's so real at this point, every game now depends fully in your dps being better, neither u loose.
@genozide19969 ай бұрын
Not gonna lie that rein game on circuit was hype as fuck😂 and hilarious
@TeaOS9 ай бұрын
the aggressive confidence is all you need sometimes
@XxLeafCatxX9 ай бұрын
It takes so long to kill with winston they should make is right click ammo free so he doesnt waste ammo before leaping on someone. He needs all the ammo he can get just to kill a squish squish.
@CarnesSurefire9 ай бұрын
Pro-tip, reload before you jump in. Charge during jump and fire as you're coming in. They die in 2 seconds.
@bearded_legend0759 ай бұрын
Lmaoooo these are some of the most hilarious moments you can experience whilst gaming
@wasabebo83349 ай бұрын
“We can’t end on a loss” “We play until we lose” -Flats
@lycanocus28989 ай бұрын
Basketball references, unironically engages me into the content even more
@isaacorwhatever43299 ай бұрын
I watched that circuit royale game live and it was exactly as intense and crazy at it was edited here. Wild match.