How I Met Your Mother - Robin's "Happy" Ending

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[@trinaq]

Please cover the Sassy Black Woman or Fat Girl tropes! 😍🖤

[@ddsjgvk]

How about stop cutting out mod sentence to tell me to sub.

[@MintyFarts]

I'm glad ted got his fantasy woman after using his disposable womb /s

[@breinteking3608]

A video on marshall and lily’s relationship please..😌

[@igorlutay48]

Do a crazy lonely feminist trope!

[@josh.0220]

Imagine spending a whole season showing a couple's wedding just to have them break up within the span of 10 minutes

[@trinaq]

Seconded, and basing an entire premise of a show around a guy telling his children how he met their mother and his wife, only for her to be barely featured until near the end, for her to be abruptly killed off, and for him to get back together with his ex six years after her death! 🙄

[@songriver1232]

I hated that as well

[@carolinegeorge13]

I disliked that too, but then I realized it kinda makes sense. I read an article explaining that the writers probably decided to spend so much time on the wedding because that was the last time the gang was together and could still be stupid and young. After that they were approaching their fourties, when life becomes more serious and monotonous and there are fewer big moments (they're more intense but less frequent) compared to your twenties and early thirties. That's why the last two episodes show only a few moments in the span of several years.

[@hegluj6796]

Natasha Romanoff still focusing a whole season on a wedding just so the couple ends in a divorce 5 minutes later is a huge middle finger to the audience and while it may sound good in paper it doesn’t in execution (not to mention that focusing an entire season on the wedding made the “1 minute before the wedding” even more rewarding and deserved, it was great until the last episode )

[@DGenerationX1311]

unfortunately we lived it

[@weronikalinda4917]

To me, the final moments of Robin and Barney's marriage didn't fit with either of them. Barney always admired Robin for being who she was: the independent, career driven person who wanted adventure. He didn't fantasize about her changing or wanting different things and he loved that she wasn't needy like other women he knew. I don't buy him suddenly being unhappy because they moved around the world or because Robin couldn't hang out with him and put her career first. It felt so forced.

[@valeriav7333]

Exactly

[@valeriav7333]

Also, he is not needy, they could have stayed apart for a few months and it really shouldn't have been problem for him or her Sure difficult but not a reason to end marriage

[@beccag2758]

Agreed, especially since we saw how well they played off each other in the last 2 seasons

[@carolsimpson4422]

It's like some kind of incel narrative of how Staceys (Robyn)waste their youth chasing Chads (Barney), only to get desperate when they're older and settle for a nerdy guy who wants to treat her like princess (Ted).

[@lisah8438]

They just did it that way for Robin and Ted to get together.

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

What confused me most about the end of Robin and Barney is that Barney has been the most supportive of her career throughout the entire series. He even finished her video resume for her. Why would that same Barney be so frustrated with her having to work? It just always struck me as very out of character for him.

[@uadevojka]

I suppose it is because the authors planned Robin to be with Ted from the beginning and Barney meant to be the supportive character and they didn't follow the natural character development here which would be more logic and inspiring, by the way. Instead they've decided to force everything in the 'right place' in the end. And of course to make it as tragic and dumb as possible, because they think in real life there are no happy endings (which is totally wrong btw). These are not first unreasonable blind writers we meet here, there more good shows ruined up to the end...

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

Even if they were to break them up, it should have been for an in character reason. Not that Barney doesn’t respect her work because it’s established he does given what he’s done to help her with it.

[@uadevojka]

@@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 I absolutely agree, authors are just dumb

[@veronicamcghie5238]

It's so crazy to me that Barney "I make every night legendary" Stinson wouldn't love travelling to a new country ever other month

[@uadevojka]

@@veronicamcghie5238 Totally! That's why he was a great match for Robin in the first place!

[@reimarz]

What doesn’t make sense was the writers thinking Barney wouldn’t be okay with Robin being successful. When we all know Barney would be there supporting her till the end.

[@Norimarisu]

I mean, he was the one who made her a video so she wouldn't have to take non news related jobs or go back to Canada.

[@kleinerfalke7623]

Barney was okay with Robins Carrier, but in the end of the series he didn't have anything for his own. All his aduld life he was a immature boy, to afraid of growing up. he even had a fake job, where he did literally nothing. It was for a greater good, but with the marriage he lost the job and he wasn't able to find a new purpose. their divorce was realistic - both didn't have the tools to manage trough tough times together. it was his daughter who forced him to settle down and to mature. in my eyes it was the only way for him to finally become an aduld.

[@chromesthesia]

@@kleinerfalke7623 yuck

[@zt2552]

Exactly!!!! Barney and Robin deserved to be together until the finale, not Ted and Robin.

[@hegluj6796]

Kleiner Falke i agree with your points of how he didn’t had anything of his own but that doesn’t mean he was still inmature, sure he was hyperactive which is his personality but throughout the series his whole arc was abandoning his bad habits and the way he lived since he confessed he wasn’t happy with the way he lived, a way better ending would’ve been him traveling with robin and making blogs about all the places he visits since from the beginning he always had one and nobody read it and people actually starting to read it or something like that but don’t erase his whole character development just to force a divorce and then force him to mature even though he was already mature

[@darcy4525]

Honestly that final haircut was also a massive letdown. They did her dirty.

[@acciosharpie4441]

ikr what the hell was thAt??

[@alepolait8951]

how else are we supposed to know she is a middle age woman? all middle age woman are boring and matronly and have no fashion sense duh!

[@eciyk]

Omg yes this! Robin was a globe-trotting journalist yet the writers (both Male) were like "dude she is OLD we gotta make sure she looks it"

[@cgulis1734]

this made me ugly laugh

[@mariatxxxc]

cheap wig

[@Lauren.E.O]

Robin and Barney’s divorce hurt A LOT. I kind of wish they’d gotten back together in the end, because Barney was the one who always saw her as a real person instead of a perfect dream girl who the main character DESERVED.

[@judeannethecandorchannel2153]

It's hinted that they might end up together in the alternate ending... There is a video on this channel about that.

[@jucy588]

According to the second version of the ending, they do end up going back together

[@ajaimathew8745]

True

[@dhenderson1810]

Barney is a "pants-man" who moves from one woman to another. He loves the attention women show him. Do you really think guys like that settle down with just one woman? Really? I bet if it were real, Barney would be cheating on her.

[@violetlavi2207]

@@dhenderson1810 I doubt it. Maybe in the beginning, but by the end, he proves his love for Robin and his devotion to her

[@samanthakim1975]

I'm not mad about Robin divorcing Barney, because nothing lasts forever. I'm not even mad about Tracy dying, because Ted always spoke about her with pain. I'm MAD about Ted and Robin ended up together, it made Tracy just a thing to make kids for Ted

[@Hakajin]

I felt kind of the opposite. That is, I felt like Robin would always be Ted's 2nd best. I THINK the show was trying to say that there's no such thing as one perfect person for you, and that might've worked thematically despite all the other issues with that ending... If it weren't that one moment where Klaus tells Ted that Victoria was his "almost the one." By which he means that it wasn't quite what he wanted, and he's not going to settle. I feel like there was a strong implication there that that's what Robin was for Ted.

[@WigganNuG]

They made Tracy a wonderful human being perfect for Ted, and him perfect for her. She died of cancer, because that happens sometimes and life is cruel and unpredictable. I don't think it was a matter of "lazy" writing to just to "kill-off" a CENTRAL character of the story.

[@aussiewanderer6304]

@@Hakajin the anger is the fact it was rushed. If we'd gotten to see 5 seasons of Robin and Barney drifting apart, followed by another 5 seasons of Ted being a single father, we would have better accepted it. I think even a reboot series 5 years later would have had fans angry if it had glossed over major relationship shifts.

[@ZakanaHachihaCBC]

Rita Rodrigues Barney and Robin not working makes sense because the whole show made it out that Robin doesn’t do commitment and marriage. Forcing that in a few minutes doesn’t work. The ending that the show gave us, COULD have worked if the last season was handled better. One half the wedding, the other half showing us the aftermath. The forever after. That way we see the marriage fall apart. We see Tracy getting ill. That way everything that happened wasn’t forced. And just MAYBE, they could have made the Ted and Robin ending work. But I still stand that Robin and Ted soundly have worked past Season 3. That’s the last chance the show had for Ted and Robin to work.

[@WigganNuG]

Is that how Ted saw Tracy? Is that how the writers saw Tracy? Why would you? Just because she's not around that long, doesn't means she's pretty much the MOST IMPORTANT character driving the whole narrative of the show! Think about it. Robin and Ted get together because he's telling this story and in the TELLING of the story the kids realize, along with Ted that he still loves Robin, that she probably really still loves him. The kids miss their mom, but of course they love their father and their Aunt Robin and they are so excited to see them try and be happy together now that life as changed and challenged them and made them stronger. Its really a great story about love and the importance of friendship in the midst of the random cruelty of life (the death of Tracy).

[@nicalycab]

I absolutely hated that she ended up with Ted. Like she was a consolation prize now that he got the kids and marriage he wanted.

[@enjoyinglifeish]

They are consolation prizes to each other.

[@joshuachandler989]

True! Like leftovers.. almost as if the “if we’re still single when we’re 40” gets realized

[@jacobj297]

They both got what they wanted.

[@MilaBarross]

And go back friends with people who abandon her over other friend

[@snarls3760]

@@javierlim5136 so what u suggest is that barney and tracy whole charcter was a plot device to set up ted and robin

[@reddragon0624]

I’m honestly just amazed at how the writers managed to ruin *years* of character development for Ted, Robyn, and Barney all at once.

[@oliviakiss02]

Dalton H. I know. The shows character development was so good and they ruined it all in the last episode

[@laurarico1200]

Is it though? First time it didn't work out between Barney and Robin. They were miserable. And even if they loved each other they didn't date again, so why will it work out? How?

[@Maria-wy2pr]

+ the fact that it was all planned from the beginning is crazy cause they could’ve came up with a better ending

[@sheririchardson218]

the ending was brilliant. In 5 mins, they changed the whole perspective of the whole 9 sessions. Sheer brilliance

[@Invader_Tim]

truth. she could have been the role model for women everywhere who are independent, who don't need a man to make her feel fulfilled, and who just enjoys the company of herself or the company of her friends. in the end, they just made it look like they were trying to be so much like friends. the only difference is that there was potential for robin to be independent from ted while for Friends, we always knew rachel would end up with ross.

[@Veralidainai]

What the writers didn’t realize is the huge disservice they gave Robin’s character. They probably thought that was every woman’s happy ending and that Robin would be happy with it but...it. Just. Doesn’t. Fit. Her. Character. Literally every season of HIMYM: Ted doesn’t belong with Robin The last episode: Ted belongs with Robin

[@grappyday5438]

Miriam I knooooww😫

[@trinaq]

Exactly my sentiments! 🙌🏾 You can't spend eight years explaining why two people aren't right for each other, and then push them together in the last few minutes! It just makes no sense whatsoever! 😾

[@Norimarisu]

@@trinaq , specially since they also spent more time getting Barney & Robin together (from season 3 to 9) than they did Ted & Robin (season 1 & 2)

[@beccag2758]

I firmly believe Ted and Robin didn't last after the finale. They dated and then broke up like they always do, and it would be in character in my opinion.

[@martinso15]

But the thing is he did belong with Robin. I liked the finale because I think it fit the story, but I realize that's an unpopular opinion.

[@하원-p7v]

If Robin weren't meant to be with Barney, I wish she just stayed alone, focused on her work. Not every happy endings need to have romance in it. (But I really liked the idea of two commitment-phobes dating and overcoming the fear if it.)

[@Nightman221k]

I liked it too. It is sad that when Robin and Barney broke it off they couldn't let Robin just be happy untethered to a guy; but rather they made Robin get pissy that Ted and Barney were moving on with their lives. It's like they made her a person who only wants what she can't have.

[@Vanessa-bv2rj]

七海Nami I think if they were to make her alone, they’d also need to either have her reconnect with the old gang or make some new friends. I think it’d be fine for her to be alone romantically, but we all have certain relationship needs, and I don’t see how those needs can be met for her without new friends, which I feel would’ve been a great message, we grow and make new friends and don’t just stick with the same people we had in our 20s, and in the end, we don’t all need a romantic partner.

[@하원-p7v]

@@Vanessa-bv2rj yeah one thing that bugged me was how they didn't have anyone join the gang. Or not see them hang out with their other friends meaningfully. Of course Robin shouldnt be completely alone. And i do love the idea of a flashforward and you can see Robin bonding with her reporter friends or something. Thatd be cute.

[@DennEsIstCool]

there's just so far you can get with your career. Whom are you gonna celebrate your 60th birthday with?

[@rymhrnblkc]

not everybody has a ‘happy’ ending. they should’ve just stood true to robin’s identity and let her be the independent woman she was all along. even if it didn’t exactly mean happiness.

[@CGZ26]

I hated Robin's ending. Ted with his "love at first sight" kind of story, has always loved *the idea* of Robin, and not her actual self. On the other hand, Barney fell in love with who she is, a person who loves her career and the freedom of doing anything she wants. He loved her for her and he didn't had to act like the usual Barney with her. Robin, just like Tracy, deserved better.

[@gt362gamer]

If you want to split hairs you could remember how Robin cheated on Kevin and then say the same thing for Ted. All main characters in HIMYM are flawed. And that's fine, that's realistic. All of us are.

[@chavalabobbyful]

Ted never pushed her to be somebody else. Even if Robin is still single in 2030. I hardly doubt he would be with Ted.

[@windshieldlaugh7411]

Agreed, Ted and Robin were never a match, they are nothing alike. She hates romance, he loves it, he wants to commit, she doesn’t, he wants kids, she doesn’t. I never even understood why Ted loves Robin so much, they never gave a reason, but with Robin and Barney there were thousands and they even showed them, like he loves her independence (Ted doesn’t, ew), they’re both kinda evil and manipulative and love that about each other (the episode, where they try to sabotage a relationship or Barney’s plays or Robin trying to seduce Barney even tho he closed the door on their relationship), he loves Robin more than any imaginary future children, this could go on and on. While Ted... hated her independence and broke up bc she doesn’t want children

[@uadevojka]

Could not agree more. When I watch a character and see a role model, I don't want to see this in the end. And they managed to ruin almost all the characters in the end🥺

[@firmanchristiansianturi4794]

@@chavalabobbyful But he did, that's why they broke up in the first place. Because Ted is trying to enforce her to have kids with him in Argentina.

[@taramaria5936]

I loved Robin with Barney. It was a relationship based on mutual interests, love and respect. It did not diminish Robin as a character or her ambition, in fact Barney respected her even more for it. The forced divorce and ending is just so out of place 😒

[@GeazakiCosplay]

@@bubumaczko I never liked her. Honestly the ending annoyed me because the mother is supposed to be this perfect being made for Ted, hyped the entire show and then she's killed off within two episodes. Just so he ends up with bitch Robin.

[@monabohamad2242]

@@GeazakiCosplay and I thought ted said I don't perfect I want Robin

[@Nightman221k]

@@bubumaczko Honestly, I feel like the worst aspect of HIMYM was that Robin kept being more and more nasty as the show went on. She could NEVER be happy that Ted or Barney was happy without her in the picture. In all honesty, the main reason I wanted her to end up with Barney was because it would have put an end to her being obsessed with that which she couldn't have since it would have had her and Barney stable. And as funny as I used to think the way she treated Patrice, that running gag is a perfect example of her toxic behavior. The writers didn't care that she would be nasty to Patrice (a very kind-hearted person who only wanted to be her friend and who would do selfless things for her like saving her purse from someone stealing it from her or baking her cookies and letting Robin crash at her house) who didn't deserve it and it was all played for laughs that Robin was a user; but she WAS she was a total user! I look back at the show and I can't see her behavior as anything other than being a user.

[@XygnusX]

Well they are both rather selfish and immature in their own ways, so a divorce isn't out of the question, despite how much they have in common. So while they are right for each other, neither of them was right for marriage or parenthood in 2013. What the show can do is have age and maturity (and fatherhood for Barney) changed them into better people, and that they eventually reconcile when they met up again in 2030.

[@KhoaNguyen-yr3qe]

Forced divorce? It was definitely bound to happen

[@thabimajija856]

Drops everything, to spend 20mins agreeing with everything they're saying.

[@trinaq]

Seconded, no matter WHAT the subject, I always find myself agreeing with their argument by the end of the video! 📹💛

[@thabimajija856]

@Matshidiso Sekgampu Ndikhona, wena unjani? Usaphila?

[@krati.]

Lol. Me too.

[@chellesama8256]

SAME.

[@youseenednedisdead]

@@Chris-rg6nm do you not agree with it or watch it chris

[@danidkg4071]

you know what makes me sad? how ted and robin's friendship was genuinely sweet and wholesome. even if there were those little moments where tensions between them would rise again, they got along, joked around with each other, supported each other's romantic relationships and shared a great bond. to throw all that away just for them to start dating again..... i hate it.

[@cherylhulting1301]

Yes. They worked much better as friends and that relationship made more sense for them. Bringing Ted and Robin together romantically at the end only ended up suggesting that women and men can't have meaningful friendships but only sex and romantic relationships.

[@MrWhiteVzla]

Barney also regressed the last season for no real reason beyond Ted and Robin must be together, which was absurd. Robin and Barney's development as characters was one of the best things the show had going on.

[@WigganNuG]

Robin and Barney were terribly flawed and broken characters with horrible negative attitudes about relationships and children. Their relationship was perfect comedy fodder and doomed because they did not balance each other, just accentuated their flawed qualities.

[@tyrant-den884]

Barney's bachelorette party thing was so freaking painful. So much struggle to artificially capture the magic Barney had with Quinn.

[@chocolatemilkhotel96]

You're telling me robin became super successful, and yet at the end of the show she was still single, living in the same apt. Complex with her dogs..just waiting for ted to rescue her? Try again. In reality, Robin would have found other boyfriends who respected her boundaries and loved her anyway

[@zestylemons4084]

Or she would have just found another friend group who she didn't have relationships with. Or she could have just stayed successful and on her own which is what I wanted

[@Qaosbringer]

"Robin would have found other boyfriends who respected her boundaries and loved her anyway" you mean "fuckbuddies"

[@pol610]

Look at what happened with her and Nick. It was around that time when she wanna have a serious relationship. But lust first am I right.

[@user-ub8oi7oh3r]

QAOSbringer you really think that a man respecting a woman’s boundaries isn’t possible in a relationship? Never date anyone, ever

[@zestylemons4084]

@@user-ub8oi7oh3r well in most cases it's not, or at least all of the "cases" I've been in. It's normal for many wen to think that and be scared of men bc of past experiences. And ofc it's not all men, but it's too many

[@jasminem812]

i never watched this show, but as a woman who also doesnt want kids, I'm so sick of how every character i feel like i can actually relate to always somehow ends up with a family and doing a complete 180 as far as what they want out of life. Not wanting kids as a woman is not something that needs to be fixed lol

[@SandyTheDesertFox]

@@christianali5431 Nature doesn't want anything. It just does what it does and that includes some people not having children

[@yasminegomez5862]

I want kids but I would love to see a character that doesn't want kids that is not portrayed as mean, or cold and still could be light-hearted and sweet.

[@jasminem812]

@@christianali5431 interestingly enough I have something called a brain too! And guess what?? my brain was "designed" to allow me to make decisions for myself and not just mindlessly procreate because some dude on the internet thinks that's what I should do based on 0 knowledge of me as a person or my life circumstances🙂 just because we have reproductive organs doesn't mean we have to use them to make babies, the world is over populated anyway and more importantly since we're talking about me specifically right now, I don't fucking want to. lmaooo but thanks for your unwanted input😄

[@jasminem812]

@@MGOsketches preach 🙌🙌🙌

[@christianali5431]

Jasmine M Thank you for your unwanted burden on society. The world is an over populated because women are having kids. The world is overpopulated because men and women are not being responsible about where, when, and how they conceive. You want someone to preach, I will preach. The raising of a family is the perfect way for a woman to spend her life if and when both men and women Save themselves for marriage. How I met your MOTHER. As in “the woman I married and raise a family with.”

[@jasmine-ruff-puff9951]

Are we supposed to assume that Robin is so beat down after her divorce that she just doesn't care about career progression anymore, and literally settles down for Ted? That's pretty sad.

[@zhengistasbolatov8480]

Well, I assumed Robin already achieved everything she wanted career wise.

[@biazacha]

Is implied she pretty much is on the level she always dreamed of and also had all the experiences she wanted to; the classic "after you tick off all the boxes you'll feel lonely without love and kids" trope that always ignores how humans are endless when it comes to goals and dreams.

[@g.g.3262]

Have you seen it or not? Robin doesn't settle down for Ted, she settles down because she's archieved everything she wanted to archieve in her job, then meets Ted again and they fall in love with eachother because now they're different people

[@icecreamhero2375]

@@biazacha Not really I only have one dream, Become an animator and make a cartoon series. And be a writter on several other cartoons. Also I would like to get married and have kids.

[@nataliax0011]

G. G. Exactly it’s not like she gave anything up she did everything she wanted to and they found each other later on after both of them fulfilled their own dreams and now the timing and dynamic of their relationship was different

[@selena1731]

She was NOT a damsel in distress waiting for her knight in shining armour. She just needed a group of friends to support her. they did her so dirty. the ending ruined all the character development. Her not being able to have a child wouldve been a great story for her as this happens to a lot of women and it isnt seen as much in tv. the ending just makes it seem like ted knocked up the mother as a surrogate for his robin fantasy.

[@clairelouise3591]

Exactly! Especially the unique point of view since she didn't want kids in the first place, the turmoil of her confusion and being upset even though she didn't want kids, the fact the choice is taken away is devastating. It was literally written out to be Teds happy ending, he gets kids and Robin when in reality Robin would be miserable with that life

[@icecreamhero2375]

@@clairelouise3591 16:50 People just want to get married its human nature. What I find odd is why can't you just be a mom and a workaholic.

[@keanpaolosoberano7354]

she unknowingly wanted to have kids tho :'( from the symphony of illumination ep

[@Hoebafett]

Kean Paolo Soberano Robin is stubborn, she didn’t like that the option was taken away from her, it wouldn’t have changed that she didn’t want kids even if she had the choice. The lobster episode shows exactly that, she was told she couldn’t have Barney and went crazy because she can’t be told what she can or can’t have, the difference is that being told you can never have kids is a very permanent thing to be told you’ll never be able to do, which is what made it tragic. If she secretly did want kids all along she could have adopted or she would have still married Kevin and given him the kids he wanted whether they came from her or not. It was a huge character moment for her to see her sad about it but still say she was glad she never had kids

[@s.h.9095]

icecream hero it's not human nature to get married as marriage is a modern invention.

[@lancerguy3667]

What was maddening about the ending was precisely what you said early on: They filmed it in advance of the entire series. they *knew* how they wanted to end it, and had literal years to guide the narrative to that conclusion in a logical and consistent way... yet they chose instead to have the characters move in opposite directions for 90% of the runtime, only to hurriedly cram everyone into their ending roles in the final few episodes.

[@julioagua]

IIRC the network kept renewing them way past what the creators had in mind...

[@Val-ep5zq]

My ending: Robin should have stayed with Barney and showed the independent, self reliant life partner type of relationships that exist now in the 21st Century. And Teds story should have ended with him being a single dad with his kids but having lived and experienced the life changing out of this word romance he always had wanted. Showing that life gives you not necessary what you wanted, but what you needed. Robin living her career out and also getting the approval of a man in an unconventional way. And Ted having a life changing Romance, one that produced his kids and in the end the forever love he always wanted in the form of his children.....but I’m not a writer.....

[@eshbena]

Yet, there you are, being a better writer than the people who wrote that finale.

[@lavoiedudroit]

Yup, that's exactly the ending I imagined for this show. It would've made a lot more sense and wouldn't have seemed so forced.

[@zahraardiany9699]

I agree! This ending would've made so much sense, considering the character development and all. also, the alternative ending of HIMYM is better than the original. period.

[@daniellemaher6157]

Oh man now I want to watch that ending 🥺

[@Okkotsu86275]

This is a great ending. Way better than the so called "professionals"

[@nakita9008]

"I hate work and evidently you miss it." "I know, I'm a terrible mother!" "If you were a dude, you wouldn't even be thinking that." That's exactly it, right there.

[@crtzy9626]

Nikki Burns that’s the relationship I want

[@areswalker5647]

That's a couple goal right there, straight to the point. Ted×Robin never worked but Barney×Robin was perfect

[@XygnusX]

@@areswalker5647 I agree completely. Barney found that his true calling in life is to be a father. And let's face it his entire career is a scam, and he would never have been successful if he had to do anything other than PLEASE. He would be much better off being a stay-at-home-Dad, using his experience with his negligent mother as a guide of what NOT to do, and his childlike sense of wonder and creativity would have given his daughter a great childhood. If Robin is to ever have a long-term relationship and family at all, she would need someone with a less demanding career than her, keeping the home together and looking after the kids, while she spend late nights at her job and frequently travel the world for her job. It would make more sense that after years of fatherhood turning Barney into a better man, and after years of travelling the world and experiencing it all Robin wanted a more stable life with a loving partner, that they eventually reconciled and love each other again.

[@angelface333]

as soon as he said that i though “idk who this man is, but i love him”

[@jolamarr2203]

I haven't seen that show, but that quick clip of that couple reminded me of myself and my fiance. I care a lot about my career and my fiance would prefer to be a house-spouse heh

[@micaelaroyo4837]

6:55 I'm sorry.... did Lily really just say "this is how people act in relationships"???? No relationship should make you feel constantly jealous, crazy, or paranoid. Relationships are built on mutual trust and security in your partner

[@vprince1173]

Yeah Lilly was also v problematic

[@mijocee9084]

Agreed that relationships aren’t supposed to be like that but that’s what really happens in real life anyways. Having jealousy and being paranoid is inevitable in a relationship. But of course people must learn how to overcome that to be able to work

[@MissJJoan]

Dude thank you. The writers, I think, have a very toxic sense of what a relationship should be. This show never sat well with me for that reason.

[@lukeskywalker9506]

Robin is so problematic as well she might be one of the worst characters alongside penny

[@oliviakittcat8770]

No it isnt how a relationship SHOULD make you feel, but it is how it DOES make you feel most the time. I do think Lily was wrong about normalising it, but she didntt lie.

[@soda1850]

I dated a Ted. He told me he loved me after 3 dates and cried infront of me because of his emotions. He was certain I was the love of his life, his soulmate etc. and I tried to explain to him that we're too different but he refused to see it or care. I can be quite romantic myself but in many ways i'm like Robin. I kept seeing this guy for a while but when I wouldn't commit fully to him, planning our future and kids and all that after less than 2 months of knowing each other he moved on. I started talking to him again a while back after running into him outside, he flirted with me and said all kinds of things obviously still has feelings though he says he's seeing someone else now. I told him we shouldn't talk if he's seeing someone else but he's always lurking on my pages... Although he says now he's realized himself that we are too different but that he also thinks there's still hope maybe in the future... I hope not lol. Don't wanna end up like the HIMYM-final. He's a sweet guy but a bit too in love with the idea of love. People who are too in love with the idea of love doesn't really SEE you, they just romanticize you.

[@icymoons]

honestly i have no idea what to say. does 'oof' cover it?

[@tornadochaser2457]

Wow. I'd have to get really drunk to even come close to having this kind of experience with a Coca Cola can (my soda preference). This guy is actually amazing.

[@jeremyud]

Wow, so this guy considers you his "one that got away." (Another episode on here.)

[@soda1850]

@@icymoons I'd say it does lol

[@pagolainaki7175]

YES. I had a friend who met a guy in a Dance lesson, this guy was creepy as hell, and would do anything to call her attention, he would text him all the time, even in class, and if you didn't show a little bit of happiness he would came to the school and would wait hours for her. Like I remeber that he actually followed her once while she was walking through a street. One time, she had a problem with her actual boyfriend and he went to her house in the middle of the rain, her dog was barking at him, everything was a mess, and he would insult her for not being in love with him. He liked to use Love phrases if he wasn't okay with her saying no, etc. I always found it weird how some people can be so in love with the idea of love, maybe this guy was just crazy, probably.

[@elizabethhurlbut1475]

The show also removed Robin's 'world reporting' career to move and settle her back in the city with brand new dogs to be available for Ted. With her career sidetracked/under control, she should have gone back to her ex-husband Barney who was equally robbed in the finale. I mean being a father is great but a father with a mother you don't know or care for is horrid for everyone. Barney also regressed to his old state because his growth as a character was made together with Robin and losing her made him give up on the man he had become (until he had a baby). Both men may have loved Robin but Ted remained the same character he was at the beginning of the story while Barney, until his forced regression, grew up.

[@GirlDo3]

And if she's so succesful why is she still living in the same little appartement she lived in her twenties. They could've given her a big appartement facing central park or something lol

[@hegluj6796]

Elizabeth Hurlbut i never understood how suddenly she wants ted when she stopped traveling if she and Barney had a supposedly “successful “ marriage then why not resume it? The writers really didn’t knew how to force ted and robin again

[@jade5615]

Heg Luj there was a bit of time between robin separating from Barney and getting together with Ted. It wasn’t something that happened quickly. I would say there was at least a 10 year period. A LOT can happen in 10 years and people change. I know I’m not the same person I was 10 years ago. 10 years ago me would not recognise the person I am now.

[@hegluj6796]

Jade yeah but they didn’t show nor hinted at any of that change, the whole episode just felt forced

[@JessycaLunawoona]

@@jade5615 The show made the mistake of telling us, but not showing us. Like, we're only told Barney and Robin were married 3 years but we don't see much of that marriage. We're only told Tracy has been dead for 6 years but we don't see stuff like Ted going through the mourning process or him living as a single father. We don't even see Robin and Ted interact in those years. We're just supposed to accept that they belong together just because.

[@sucons4254]

“We wanted to show a show where the guy wants the girl and the girl doesn’t want that” If she doesn’t want that then it shouldn’t be happening.....

[@JayJay-kq8ol]

Lack of interpretation bub

[@lesmortimers4791]

What’s wrong with those people...

[@Ajwad99]

Yes! The narrator talked abt how robin should’ve been satisfied with her career and never get in a relationship like wtf? If that was u good for u but robin wants a relationship she just doesn’t want it to get in the way of her career and lifestyle like am i the only one who saw that?

[@robertosucci1151]

Dude meant it like an unlikely rom com not in a psycho killer way. Lets be honest tho robin often gave ted mixed signals which is why he is always like imma pursue her

[@chocolatemilkhotel96]

I think what bothers me the most is that women are seen as "either/or" (a mother or a working woman.) No one ever asks men if they can have it all...

[@Lee-ss8yj]

Thank you. I don't want a career (currently becoming a teacher, and that's not really a career-job) nor children. When I tell people I don't want children they ALWAYS assume it is because I would want a career. A womans life isn't just two options, either being a mother or a career-chaser. It can be a mix, or just neither as well

[@Escorducarla]

Well...they can't. No one can. Not just women, but also men. There are only 24 hours in a day, and something always gives, whether you want it to or not. At the end of said day, you prioritize what matters to you, and you leave the rest, and you find contentment with that. You can have kids, and stay home with them if that's what you want, but you WILL have a gap in your career. You can choose to have them and work, but you WILL miss out on some of the hands-on connection. The idea of "having it all" is an illusion, unless "having it all" means "having what matters to me and not pursuing what I don't want." (Spoiler: it is rarely or ever meant in that way when it's brought up.)

[@cherylhulting1301]

@@Escorducarla You missed the part where women have enabled men for centuries to have the career AND the happy home life because the women were expected to give up their careers, keep house and raise children so that men could have both sides of life. Men don't do enough housework, elder care or child care to make it as possible for women to easily do the same thing. These aren't "real" choices for women.

[@Escorducarla]

@@cherylhulting1301 I assure you I didn't miss it. And it's actually sort of irrelevant, because we're talking about right now, where women have careers and choices and still can't have it all. Neither can men. They couldn't then either, if you want to go there. Men throughout the centuries didn't just do whatever, because they had duties and responsibilities to home and hearth, just like their wives did. They were duty-bound to be earners, and to work themselves to the bone to keep a roof over their families' heads. Pretending that women were the only ones shackled to duty and responsibility is just silly. Everything has a price. Everything has a trade-off. It always has. For everyone.

[@cherylhulting1301]

@@Escorducarla Again you miss the power dynamic. Men work their fingers to the bone! My father went to work, came home and sat on his butt watching TV while my mother did all the child care, cooking and housework and brought him anything he wanted. Her work day didn't stop at 5:00 pm; it went on all day. This pattern continued even after she went to work and even when she became the primary breadwinner. What you don't want to admit is exactly what I already pointed out - it would be easier for both women and men to have more balanced lives of men did their fair share of child and elder care and housework. Most American women now work outside of the home too, including 70% of mothers, but they now have two jobs instead of one. As it now takes two incomes to pretty much raise a family, this is putting disproportionate pressure on women. All studies on the subject still illustrate this gap; the AP just released one two weeks ago that demonstrated how working women still do too many house chores as compared to their partners. The other way in which Americans find it hard to create balance, both women and men, is that our corporate structures aren't family friendly. Americans work more hours for stagnant or even less money; child care is very costly (my two young cousins with children are paying $1,500 a month for their two kids) and flexible time options aren't easily available. There's a lot more that could be done on the state and federal level to help families with children better balance obligations and have happen and healthier lives.

[@basomaning4166]

You know what, I am so tired of the excuse that “they already filmed the ending years in advance to keep it realistic.” I would MUCH rather prefer they bring back the grown kids, or even cut the kids from the end, to make a better ending. If the writers truly cared about the quality of the show, they would have done whatever it took to make a good ending.

[@oliviakiss02]

B Asomaning YES OML I AGREE

[@jjba3571]

Was the writer fantasy of the niceguyTM ending with the girl he obsess with even when realistic speaking they dinamis, goals, everything dont match

[@Stupiddumbmanditoryhandle]

All they needed the last 2 episodes to be were the wedding reception and the train platform conversation. Then zoom out and a final “And that’s how I met your mother” Boom perfect ending. Gimme an Emmy.

[@annabanana7659]

And since it was a sitcom, the kids could've said "Dad, it's such a long story that we're a decade older!"

[@TheAlphaDingo]

Agree. Robin should have stayed with Barney. Ending up with Ted was contrived and forced. Awful ending to a great show.

[@drewaureangeronimo7816]

Trueee!

[@PumpkinMozie]

Actually if you watch the show straight through you can see it’s hinted at a lot that Ted and Robin will end up together. Robin consistently shows signs of still being attracted to him and Ted goes through a lot of character develop in order to get over his ridiculous fantasy of her.

[@shifasalsabella2456]

yes!

[@TheSuperDude573]

@@PumpkinMozie didn't robin say she didn't love ted

[@stepfiel.p.2631]

@@TheSuperDude573 She had to say that so Ted will give up on her. She doesn't want him to give up the thought of having kids since that was the reason why she and Kevin broke up in the first place.

[@trinaq]

How to ruin a show in just three minutes : By shoving together two people for a last minute happy ending after spending years pointing out exactly WHY they're incompatible! 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@Zehruk]

Even GoT took a few episodes to nose-dive. HIMYM jumped off a cliff in the last few minutes of the last episode.

[@deliaflores436]

100% agree

[@victorcb6795]

And how did it ruin the show I wonder? Did you not enojoy the whole ride? I bet you did. I wish people would stop saying "the ending ruined the show" and start saying "the ending ruined my expectations of the finale" And by the way, if the ending didn't please you, well, it's your problem

[@lewisallan9963]

@@victorcb6795 no it's the writers problem when almost every fan did not like the ending.

[@claytoncourtney1309]

@@victorcb6795 How does it "ruin the show"? Because when we first saw the series we would see them together, realize they are not compatible and be happy that the writers realized this as well. It was a great narrative, it fueled the mystery of who the mother was. On a re-watch however, these scenes are looked at differently. They are now a constant reminder that all of the character development that went into these scenes was worthless.

[@thelobster1200]

Sometimes I feel like Robin's character has been written by different people, or through different points of view. From a side she is actually a complex person, with true ambitions and singular desires, from the other side she is limited in her own being by the role that the writers themselves wanted to gave her in the story, which is in fact Ted's story, not her own. Because of the finale it's like her true nature is oppressed by the expectation that Ted (the writers) had on her: being the ideal girl, object of a male fantasy, who in the end becomes finally accessible. It's not even like the point is to be with her, rather than to prove that Ted can, and will, have her. Like she's a trophy rather than a person.

[@eagerturtle4791]

The blue french horn is basically the symbolism that Robin is a trophy for Ted.

[@zinc8002]

you’re right and this is why men shouldn’t write

[@thelobster1200]

@@zinc8002 or at least there should be male and female writers in equal number

[@sarasamaletdin4574]

She is a supporting character unlike Ted who is a lead. And supporting characters, female or male, are ultimately there to advance the main characters journey, or they are written of.

[@zinc8002]

Giorgio Ascani sure, but in my experience now that women are FINALLY headlining at least a handful or mainstream media... it’s always better

[@cateve9337]

It's also ridiculous how 'career woman' is even a term: there's no 'career man'. This needs to die in the 21st century 😂

[@Stupiddumbmanditoryhandle]

The term used for that is bachelor isn’t it?

[@Ozzie_Mandias]

You can be a career woman or career man all you want. But remember, people work to live, not live to work. The career minded life results in a shallow existence full of wealth and no one left in your life to care. I went full on career bloke years ago because I wanted something different than my mates. It was a horrible orgy of meaningless lust and trying to tolerate people you cannot stand for a chance to live your career dream. I became a proper alcoholic because of it. Thank god my mates were glad when I left that life behind and moved back to live in a shitty neighborhood with all my mates and my family. Nowadays I just work hard for the chance of a better payday, I don't give a sh** about that career life lie anymore. Unless you are a robot, that is not a life for anyone.

[@danielmallory4687]

Career man is a term the gender neutral term is careerist

[@pinkmuffin9842]

@@Ozzie_Mandias So.. because it didn't was what you wanted, you say it is "not a life for anyone"? Pretty presumptuous, isn't it? Being a workaholic is a form of illness, just like being a shopaholic or alcoholic (some worse than others) but getting your fulfillment by doing something useful that you believe in instead of starting a family is a normal choice that anyone can make.

[@davidz2562]

@@Stupiddumbmanditoryhandle No, because having a career or not is nothing to do with your relationship status.

[@icymoons]

the issue is that they filmed the ending early, and the story drifted away from it as the years went on

[@trinaq]

True, they filmed the ending way back during the second season, as they knew that the actors playing the kids would have aged by the time they shot the finale, but the fact that they seem all too eager to get Ted and Robin together only six years after Tracy's passing just makes them seem callous and mean-spirited in retrospect. 😥

[@grappyday5438]

Trina Q yeah I think it would’ve been better if they weren’t so enthusiastic 😅

[@hegluj6796]

Trina Q not to mention that the first thing the kids think when ted says he is going to tell the story about their deceased mother is “is this going to take a while?” “Are we being punished?” Either talks about her all the time and will probably broke up with robin AGAIN because of that or then the creators they didn’ gave a fuck about Tracy and she was just some other woman in ted life that wasn’t robin

[@darkecofreak23]

mazie And they didn’t realize that the ending they shot back in S1 didn’t click with how the characters had since developed.

[@Taleneki]

I can understand the logical reason behind filming the ending scene with the children during season 2, but what they should have done is film several versions. They could have easily filmed one version with TedxRobin and one where they don't end up together. Then they would have had the option to choose and after all these seasons they definitely would have chosen the latter. It's quite ironic: They thought they were thinking ahead of time by prefilming the ending, but they actually weren't thinking ahead at all, because they completely forgot about character development.

[@seanthebluesheep]

Me: How I Met Your Mother ended years ago. I was disappointed in the finale but I've processed it and moved on. Also me: Oh YES, drag the writers through the dirt! They did my girl dirty, she deserved better! I'm ready to FIGHT

[@thinair7671]

Saying she doesnt have female friends always confused me coz whe was literally sitting drinking with female friends during the very 1st episode lol

[@Missmagazinebura]

Maybe they arnt friends with her anymore because she spends too much time with the main cast

[@atinity6749]

Or maybe it's that "Wooo!" -thing 🤔

[@Luke_wait_for_it_marengo]

So true

[@simonakatsman974]

It could have been coworkers or acquaintances. But yeah it's a pretty obvious plot hole.

[@pranavpipariya8556]

The ending was a pointless studio fanservice which literally nobody asked for. They legit made 1 full season to set barney n robin together and split them up in 30seconds. Abrupt changes to suit the narrative they set in the beginning of the show was why they ended up screwing up the ending.

[@MeghanaAnjali]

Isn't fanservice supposed to make the audience happy? I have never seen people more upset about a series finale😂

[@hegluj6796]

Meghana Anjali it was fan service for the writers since it was clearly a moment that people were supposed to be happy with, even the creators said in a commentary about the last episode “how could we not put ted and robin together” meaning that they gave the audience what they wanted and not what people needed

[@The_Mighty_Fiction]

@@hegluj6796 And so they had Ted slowly poison his wife.

[@gailbello7798]

They kind of did this to Lily too. Her artist dreams diassapear and she becomes another Erikson wife baby machine that she was disgusted by earlier in the series.

[@gabrielbarros11]

@@big_slurp4603 In my opinion, the show never potrait Lilly as being as focused in her carrer as Robin, they always show her as being more of dreamer than a actual artist, to me she's not a real artist, she just want the glamour of the artist stereotype, thats why she always talk about adventures and travels, but never actually pursue it, Lilly just want to feel artistic the best example is the reason why she went to San Francisco, she went just to have an adventure not for the art itself.

[@hollyjustice9858]

This ending pissed me off. Barney and Robin should have stayed together and they shouldn't have killed the mom

[@thedreamer4761]

This sounds like Barney and Robin killed the mother xD.

[@dawson3171]

No, it was a good idea they killed the Mother off, it makes sense. Why else would Ted tell this long story about how he met there mother. If they didn’t kill her off where would have she been when Ted was telling the kids the story?

[@MarissaCooperButPoor]

@@dawson3171 To be fair Ted was always a storyteller who liked talking and talking and talking, and the mother could just have been working I mean she wanted to end freaking poverty on Earth.

[@MarissaCooperButPoor]

Thank you, I agree.

[@dawson3171]

@@MarissaCooperButPoor what working for 9 years and not appear once during that time, not speaking to her husband or 2 kids ??

[@yumnax]

This is the same thing that irked me in The Big Bang Theory. Penny said the whole show through and in the last season even more that she doesn’t want kids and she prefers being the fun loving aunt. But in the last episode Lennard surprisingly knocked her up and she was happy. Like what? Why do shows force this idea on women that they need a child to be happy???

[@Ninjaananas]

@Miss Kelly Some people do not change their mind, cretin. Some people suffer greatly from having children when they should not have.

[@seppyq3672]

If I was a producer/show runner/writer, etc, I would LOVE to make a show about a woman (or even several women) do not want kids, don't have them, and maybe dont even have relationships. It would be so refreshing.

[@itspienoon7883]

The Big Bang Theory has to be one of the worst takes to show how women's feelings are treated

[@jaycievictory8461]

@@itspienoon7883 I started off loving that show and I grew to hate it

[@jjba3571]

Cuz i bet was writen by men

[@savannahs8914]

That's why I like Leslie. It's just about her going and pushing and meeting Ben along the way, but there is NEVER a "can Leslie have it all?" discussion

[@Norimarisu]

The episode where Ben decided to make a "calzone" pie for the pie contest so she wouldn't have to go against her wishes even if she offered, had me almost crying because couple support like that is barely shown on TV.

[@MeghanaAnjali]

Parks and rec is not my favourite show but Leslie & Ben are the best couple followed by Eleanor & Chidi. Mike Schur is so good at making male characters drink women respect juice and wholesome couples

[@olhydra]

Meghana Anjali Meghana Anjali lmao @ “drink women respect juice” I love that

[@strangepigeon1711]

Savannah oh na na

[@eurydicexoxo]

Another good example is Amy and Jake from B99. There was a whole episode about Amy being hesitant to take the sergeant's exam because she was afraid that ranking higher than Jake would make their relationship fall apart, so he tells her never to be afraid to be successful and that he always knew she was going to be his boss.

[@cjchristensen6290]

I think the biggest issue with this show is that Ted always believed that Robin was "the one" even though Robin never thought Ted was "the one." Of course, in the end no one cares about what Robin wants, only that Ted is able to have the woman of his dreams AND kids even though that was never something Robin wanted.

[@trinaq]

The ending of HIMYM always irked me, in that Robin never wanted kids, and now she's going to be the stepmother to two teenagers, and she still retains her previous mindset. They should have let her continue to be a successful career woman, like Princess Carolyn, and not focus on her love life. 😔

[@igorlutay48]

Well we don't know she can develop and change emotionally with time. And once something not there anymore after she leaves the group (Ted) she might have realized that she wanted it all along. It is okay to start out with one idea of what you want and change it after. It would be depressing to stay in one spot emotionally even if your current outlook on life (i.e. Robin wanting to be a career woman) is seen to be "progressive".

[@victorgomez4079]

It was the equivalent of last minute partnering with Ralph Stilton and Princess Carolyn, just to justify that she needed him to be happy, but they did a great job of giving a partner who understands how important work is to her, he loves her. for whom she is professionally, personally and most importantly, respects her, even being her boss and partner.

[@1nf3ct3dTT]

Beeing a step mom to older kids is totally different than raising them from 0

[@ethicallysourceddonuts]

@@igorlutay48 This is such a tired argument though. Usually some people even go as far as "Robin only want something when she can't have it" with the same energy as those who insists Summer from 500 days of Summer is the antagonist. Yes people change in real life but in story telling the audience deserves to see the reason, not be given a short generic excuse

[@igorlutay48]

@@ethicallysourceddonuts I would agree but recently all I see is people judging female characters that do choose to be mothers and wives. But I get it if so many people want to see Robin like character just being by herself maybe there should be a show about that. But in this instance I feel like going back to Ted didn't only fill his story line but also made sense of hers as well. I think the argument with the kids makes me feel that even more. When she was told she couldn't have kids she was sort of startled and maybe a part of her went through the same thing when she lost Ted or stopped talking to him. But I think there so many viewers and only one Robin. I see her that way and I am happy that she developed into the person she was in the end of the story with Ted even though I really enjoyed and related to her character a lot throughout the whole series.

[@nasrinfarjana4222]

Robin and ted are like if jo march ended up regretting turning down laurie and had to be rescued by him at the last minute

[@witavorr]

Nasrin Farjana Hahah, yes! But only after Amy dies 😂

[@alouise]

So fun fact Louisa May Alcott (author of Little Women) actually wanted Jo to stay single in the novel, but her publisher insisted Jo had to get married. So instead of having Jo end up with Laurie (the more obvious choice) she has Jo reject Laurie's proposal and end up with Professor Bhaer. When I learned that fact it made Jo's character make sense because she seemed like the independent single woman type, but the novel was published in 1869 and times were much different then.

[@studiostyx7075]

THIS.

[@nekofreekgirl]

I just came to the realization that Ted is a romcom version of joe from "you"

[@MarissaCooperButPoor]

I mean...is he?

[@billuraral1870]

Or Joe is a more realistic Ted

[@smaina1499]

Cue glass shattering sound effect

[@siddharthtripathi5806]

Joe: you are weak Ted: I am you

[@requiemforanali]

we- yall are insane lmao

[@nicnacsnonsense]

I know the reason they filmed the ending eight years early because they weren't sure how much longer the show would last and were worried the teen actors would be too old by the time they got to the finale and I get that, but why not just lean into it? Wrap the story and cut to the kids who are now clearly in their 20's. Then Tracy (The Mother) walks in all dressed up and the camera switches so we can see Ted who is dressed up too. They're about to go out to dinner because it's their anniversary, and it's revealed that it's been an annual tradition for Ted to tell their kids the story of how the two of them met on their anniversary for the past ten years ever since the first time we saw back in the first episode. Or you have the now 20-somethings joke about how it took him ten years, but Ted finally got around to the part where he and Tracy met. Turns out this has not all been happening in a single sitting, but something he's been doing once a week every week that they can all get together to do it as a way for Ted to bond with his kids. Ted laughs awkwardly and agrees they've finally reached the end of the story. The kids get up to leave; they both have other things that they need to get to. Ted agrees and we see him sitting his his chair looking melancholy. The implication is he's sad not to have the excuse to have the kids come over and tell them his stories anymore. But then they both go up to him and offer some sort of physical affection -- a hug, a shoulder pat, a kiss on the cheek, etc. -- and Luke says, "See you next Sunday?" which Penny follows with, "Oh yeah, I can't wait to hear about your and Mom's first date; I'll bet it was a disaster." And Ted laughs genuinely this time and tells them they'll have to wait to find out. Or a third alternative is you *really* lean into it. We get to the end of the story and cut back to the kids on the couch, but these are obviously not the same actors. Like they weren't even trying, these kids aren't even teenagers, they look like they're maybe nine years old. Then Ted says, "And that kids is the story of how I met your grandmother."

[@tiffanysamuels279]

Love the third idea lmao

[@ML-zu6by]

Dude I like all the ideas you have they're great and creative! You literally could've been a better writer for the show than the actual writers lmfao

[@richardbourton4523]

Those are fantastic! The third idea is particularly creative and really funny! It fits Ted that he would continue to tell this story to following generations.

[@adrianaivelisse657]

nicnacpaddywac918 all three better than what we got

[@HoneyMooseyFace]

Brilliant!! All 3 are fantastic especially #2! It's super heart warming and sweet.

[@lovelyA933]

Robin and Barney reminds me a lot to Jackie and Hyde in That 70's Show. They pulled the same thing with them. Their relationship made sense, it was built slowly from friends to something more, realizing they were not that opposite but complementary and they both got great character developement from the relationship only for the writers to pull a shitty male fantasy of nerd gets the hot girl by regressing Hyde into a one dimensional character, breaking them up and making Jackie fall in love with Fez instead.

[@simonakatsman974]

YUP THAT MADE ME SO MAD

[@shanzerb2927]

Its the Shakespeare "Taming of the Shrew" classic trope.

[@rosecoloredbby]

EXACTLY YOU ARE SO RIGHT UGH you just said my exact opinion on them. Their relationships was one of the best things that could’ve ever happened to the later half of that show and to their characters and the fact that they threw it all away for some fling that didn’t even make sense irks me so much.

[@rosecoloredbby]

EXACTLY YOU ARE SO RIGHT UGH you just said my exact opinion on them. Their relationships was one of the best things that could’ve ever happened to the later half of that show and to their characters and the fact that they threw it all away for some fling that didn’t even make sense irks me so much.

[@katiebayliss9887]

shanzer B eck

[@janetnjau397]

I've watched the entire show 10 times and the ending did EVERYONE dirty. Ted came out as a delusional sociopath, Robin as a successful lonely dog lady who regretted all her life choices, Barney as the really creepy old baby daddy who hits on college kids at the club and Lily and Marshall as the golden couple. At this point I even think Ted killed the mom... why did she die so mysteriously only for Ted to run back to Robin? This isn't a comedy it's a suspenseful thriller, but we don't realise because the narrator is the villain and in his perspective it's kind of romantic and kind of funny

[@GregBurch]

Holy misandry.

[@jacobw5434]

did you ACTUALLY watch the show once? Barney literally stops hitting on girls and tells them to leave, no idea where you're getting sociopathic tendencies for Ted, the mother literally gets sick like she's sitting in a hospital, it's hinted that they know she has a terminal illness (at the inn), and he "ran back" to Robin 6 years later. big hot take vibes lmao

[@janetnjau397]

@@jacobw5434 yep 10 times... your entire analysis is based off the last 5 minutes of the show my dude. Watch it again, you'll see where I'm coming from

[@pol610]

"History is written by the winners" basically Ted is an unreliable narrator, he controls the narrative ofc he makes it look like he isn't that bad and got angry with The Wedding Bride movie oblivious to his flaws.

[@franciscamoena6666]

Holy shit. Do you have some kind of galaxy brain there? The realization of narrator ted being the villain hit me like a train

[@MITHYKA]

I always felt the last episode seemed like an alternate ending. Watching this also made me realize how Ted’s relationship with himself was just so toxic since episode one, he never learned to love himself, he *needed* to love someone to fill that void. Everyone’s character development got thrown out the window in those last 10 minutes.

[@ellen358]

C

[@jeremyud]

What part of Robin saying "I don't want kids" did the writers not get? She's now going to be a mother to Ted's kids until they leave the house.

[@jenandjuice_]

Chris “to throw off the audience” no. It showed us that ted and robin had different priorities and goals in life.

[@hitthefries]

That's true, but the kids are grown and knew her as aunt Robin who was there throughout the kids' lives. It doesn't seem like she was suddenly thrown 2 children? Or at least that's how I saw it

[@nathanielstacy4488]

jeremyud , Technacly she already was as several points threw out the series they point out how depends on Ted or Barney she is & How close she remains with Ted in the years since Tracy's death whom do you think is helping Ted's daughter shop for Bra's ECT... I don't think its Lilly from Italy.

[@angelkalathas]

Just because someone said something once, doesn't mean he or she can't change his or her mind in the future.

[@hegluj6796]

Chris so? His favorite movie is Star Wars and that doesn’t mean that he will end up fighting in a rebelión

[@bw-xv2rz]

The Swarkles relationship easily could've been a Judah/Princess Carolyn-type of relationship. Two constantly working people with an adoptive child to take care of; Robin being the content workaholic with no signs of stopping, and Barney being the supportive trophy husband. It's all the more frustrating when you realize the show built up Barney's flexibility as a partner for Robin and vice versa, but no, let's just revert the two back to their old selves and pretend everything is okay.

[@alim.9801]

How DARE you call my man Judah a trophy husband 😤😤

[@quincyendicott6047]

@@alim.9801 Because he's a treasure

[@stephaniebanks8861]

Ted was the most toxic character in the series. He was so in love with the idea of love that it clouded his judgement. The show started as being about Ted finding his wife but quickly turned into a story about friendship. I think that's why it was such a beloved show. I don't think the writers anticipated how much character development would occur within it's run. I hate that they still decided to keep that ending in and not just end it when Ted meets the mother. Instead they made into being about Ted living out his "fantasy". I pretend it ended with them meeting

[@monabohamad2242]

No I kinda doubt that the Show was actually about the Mother it seems like it was kinda actually FAR more about what has happened BEFORE Ted met the Mother so it's almost as if most people take the Name/Title of the Show WAY TOO Literally

[@Spicie95]

Totally agree!! Ted was really an asshole at times. He had this picture of a perfect romance and basically turned women into fairy tale figures to plaster his ideals on to. Robin rejected these ideals time and time again, but he just kept pushing them at her...

[@joefisk4448]

I agree. The series centered around the fact that Ted was a hopeless romantic. Then in the end he ends up with Robin, one of the biggest sluts in NYC. I didn't like that.

[@rgunitx]

How dare you! Ted was not toxic

[@whutdafeq1715]

You're really gonna sit here and say TED is the most toxic one when you have Lily and Barney in this show?? Man I don't even have TIME to explain to you how MUCH more toxic all his friends are, I would have LOVED for him to go to Chicago and not have to deal with their bullshit anymore. The most toxit trait Ted had was his lack of self esteem for hanging out with those people after all the shit they pulled on him. Let's see how you'd like it if your "best friend" got together with your ex whom you still loved, had the GALL to BRAG to your face on multiple occasions about how great their sex and their love life is AND your other "best friends" actually rooted for HIM more than they ever rooted for you because they made a FUCKING BET on your misery. In real life Ted WOULD NEVER SPEAK TO BARNEY OR ROBIN EVER AGAIN and neither would Marshall and Lily if they were ACTUAL real friends and not just complete assholes. After season 3 the whole show just becomes a fucking cartoon, NONE of the characters feel real anymore cos that's NOT how things play out in real life.

[@rosariocastro6386]

That ending failed Ted, Barney and Robin, they all regressed back several seasons worth of character development.

[@rosariocastro6386]

@Manophere. com I think the finale would have being absolutely perfect, for the 4 or 5 seasons show they planned. If you put the last season and a half of this show after the first time Robin and Barney date, the finale would have being poetic, perfect and beautiful. The ending was tag on at the end as it was, made for the season 4 characters, because it was based on the creators lifes, a story the had planned in advance. But after they reach the original end point it went on, the chatacters kept on living, they changed, learned about themselves and progressed, and that original ending as it had being devised didn't fit the characters they had become. I'm not saying that Robin and Barney should have lived happily ever after, by their nature they would have a difficult path ahead. Or that the mother should have lived, she always had to die, her unseen death before the show starts is what propels the story to be told, and it always belonged in the ending. The content could have remain, but the episode should have being revise and restructured to fit what the show had become. It fail in that regard, and that is why it is remember by most as a bad ending.

[@rosariocastro6386]

Sorry for the essay, I always had a lot to say about this ending and never did actually 🤗

[@tammymartinez7488]

At least lily and Marshall ended well!

[@hegluj6796]

Manophere. com the ending has 2 timelines, he either brokes up with robin because he misses Tracy and realized he doesn’t have the same chemistry plus he hasn’t let go (if it took 8 years for him to let go of robin who he didn’t had any chemistry then what makes you think that he will get over Tracy, the one who gave him everything he wanted and apparently had great chemistry with him in such a short time ) or he lives happily with robin meaning that Tracy was in fact just another girl in teds life that wasn’t robin just like the writers intended

[@wikus2411]

It pretty much shows how they planned the ending right from the start, but as the seasons went on the characters developed more and more, then the last episode it's "oh crap, gotta take all that development back to stay inline with the original planned ending".

[@Baerli92]

they should have filmed like 5 endings with the kids so that they could choose in the end... just saying would not be that costy xD

[@appouhal]

Wow, that idea is actually brilliant. So annoyed the writers didn’t think to do that.

[@jacquelinecapron-allcott6750]

“The writers wanted a story of a man who is in love with a girl who doesn’t want that.” Based on the ending, it seems like the creators of the show had this concept in mind because they wanted their show to be "quirky" or "not like other romances" -- not because they wanted to subvert gender stereotypes or develop unique, complex characters. It's as if the purpose of "changing up the narrative" with a character like Robin was simply to create an obstacle in Ted's path that he would ultimately overcome, making his journey more challenging and therefore more rewarding for him (and only him) in the end. I agree with others have said -- that it seems like Robin was written by multiple people with drastically different views of her; some cared about her character development, while others viewed her merely as a concept.

[@hegluj6796]

I wonder how the writers feel about the ending considering that it was intended to be a happy one and the only way people defend it is by saying it’s realistic because not everyone gets a happy ending (not to mention that they really intended the blue French horn moment as a “I’m so glad she ended up with ted”)

[@Norimarisu]

And by everyone they mean Robin... And the mother they killed off.

[@misspeaches1144]

I feel that! I get that they filmed the scene with the kids ahead of time, but could they not make Robin just reject Ted, telling him she’s happy to be single? That would’ve kept the kids’ scene the same AND gave Ted a life lesson about romance, as well as maybe presenting the whole thing as him learning to be single and still happy, just like Robin

[@jade5615]

Vered Pinhas I liked the ending but I actually think the one you provided makes more sense. Never thought my mind could be changed about this haha

[@The_Mighty_Fiction]

In what way is it supposed to realistic? Ted wants a family, Robin wants a career, so they break up. Ted meets a Manic Pixie Dream Girl who is considerate enough to shoot out a couple of kids for Ted while Robin has her career, then croak before the credits roll so that her widower and his ex can get back together, slotting neatly into her place now the kids are nearly grown up and both she and Ted have achieved their life goals. How is that not a 'Happily Ever After' where they both ultimately got what they wanted and the character the entire show was _about_ got jungled on a dirty bathroom floor? Unless.... Ted slowly poisoned her so he could be with Robin. Dear God, it all makes sense now.

[@hegluj6796]

The Mighty Fiction I totally agree with you, I don’t understand how people can say that the ending is realistic when in reality ted ending with Tracy and robin with Barney was way more real

[@Mercy_Deee]

This is not a love story to me. They killed off Tracy just to force motherhood and Ted on robin🤦‍♀️. Urgh how exactly did robin and Barney not last? They seemed perfect for each other

[@oliviakiss02]

I knowwww ugh

[@kevinmchale6965]

barney and robin didn't last because Robin wasn't as invested in the marriage as barney was

[@icohen1627]

They are toxic couple. There is nor reason for them to get together

[@zaid2110]

I literally don't know how you people think Barney and Robin are perfect together Robin become the worst version of herself while she is with Barney , just watch How Robin character was in the first few seasons and how she changed to the worse in the last three season Barney was always evil , he always tricked the girl to get them to the bed and dump them after that , I really don't know what any girl can see him as husband , people like Barney need a therapist not a wife

[@Norimarisu]

If a guy ever tells you he loved the original ending from HIMYM (before they tried to fix it) you RUN. Obsessing over someone who keeps saying no is NOT romantic.

[@Spikastru]

If a guy reminds you of Ted, you RUN.

[@witavorr]

Nory-Chan Came here to say this! ☝🏽“The writers wanted a story of a man who is in love girl who doesn’t want that.” Because women don’t deal with that all the time? But *this* stalker is romantic when he won’t take “no” for an answer and shows her zero respect, because he’s adorrrrrable holding a stuffed bear or some shit 🤨 9 seasons, huh?

[@MsSonali1980]

@@Spikastru I hated Ted. Either way, he was not taking "NO" for an answer or/AND(!) he got into relationships with women (even multiple times) and then called it quit for some bs immature reason instead of working it out with his partner. He disposed so many women but thought he was the most romantic guy the Earth had ever seen. No self-awareness.

[@Norimarisu]

@@witavorr , and that's how we have raised more than one generation of people who think that if you just try harder and obsess more over someone eventually they will stop saying no to you. It's not creepy to throw 3 parties in a row just to get a girl to come over and lie about how you can be what she said she wanted even though it's not at all what you want... It's romantic. Right? Neither is trying to win someone's affection up until their wedding day. Totes not creepy how he kept that locket or did that speech about never giving up even if she kept saying no, was getting married, everyone told him he was crazy and it made him miserable.

[@orestmakar8562]

Nory-Chan Romantic means to having an idealized view of the world. In my opinion the modern world has created egocentric alfa males and egocentric alfa females. Bouth species wear a veneer of independance strenghth and happiness... which are fake. In the process the romantics are few and far between ridiculed by mass media as week, pathetic etc. The funny tjing is that the alfa males hate alfa females, they bouth are afraid to express and admit their emotions and when no one is looking feel depressed and valnurable. Romantics change the world because they are the dreamees who Don’t take no for an answer, they don’t compromise under preasure but can sacrefice for a good cause. Romantics have more fulfiling relationships and careers because they are not afraid to act, they don’t pretend, when they want something they go for it.

[@mollyb8136]

I feel like the producers/writers expected people to want Ted and Robin like they wanted Ross and Rachel. And then Robin and Barney to be received like Rachel and Joey - a blip towards the end game. 🤷🤦

[@requiemforanali]

dont worry, schermosby has a big fanbase, we are also called "people with taste"

[@ddraven3180]

@@requiemforanali no, you're called pathetic stalker apologists

[@bruiseviolet777]

@@requiemforanali LMAO your everywhere defending schermosby with your LIFE. They aren't even a bad couple, it just really ticked me off to waste half a season on Barney and Robin to break them up in the last 15 minutes. Schermosby being endgame just felt forced and they deserved a better execution than that.

Robin was my favorite character and in a way felt reflected on her. I was so mad with the ending and how they basically erased her growth, personality and goals. It was sad.

[@nurulhanifah4579]

Honestly, I always feel that what Ted had for Robin was more of an obsession. He ignored the reality that they’re incompatible and pursued a fantasy of them being together.. I feel like being with “the right person” shouldn’t require us to leave our dream, like having kids or pursuing a career. And none of them were the case with Tracy. They have the same core value, same interest, and things were great when they were together. Also, I feel like Robin and Barney divorce just didn’t make any sense.. I love this show because they are always able to fit everything in the show together so it makes sense and feel right, but Robin and Barney divorce just doesn’t make any sense.. Love the show very much.. I deeply love and respect all the characters of the show. But the ending is just disappointing, man.. Never gonna get over it.. Still love the show though...

[@zaid2110]

Can you please tell me how exactly Ted is obsessed with Robin ? When she rejected him at the first two episode he get over her , later on when he was with Victoria , she was the one who started to love him , and she tried to destroy his relationship with Victoria just because she suddenly started to love him After that they started to date each other , and when they both realize that they want different things , Ted didn't try to change her as every Ted hater is saying , they had a soft breakup , and Ted moves on then when he was about to marry Stella , again she tried to destroy their relationship (as always , she only wants him when he was with another girl) , she even asked him to stop his marriage to be with her and he rejected In season 7 , he abandoned his own dream to be a father to be with her , and when she rejected him , and of course it will break his heart , so he tried to stay away from her In season 8 , when he realize how much she loves Barney , he asked her to go for Barney , although Marshal told him to stop putting other people happiness in front of his , but he didn't , and still asked her to go and get Barney although it will break his heart and he know it (How is that obsession not love ?) , if he was really obsessed with her , he will never asked her to go for Barney In season 9 , he went through hell to get her locket , and give it to Barney to take full credit of it , just to save her marriage , and she already finds out that he is the one who found the locket (but it wasn't his fault that she doesn't trust Barney) , he even rejected her proposal to run away with him , if he is really obsessed with Robin he will accept right away Hate the ending as much as you want , but what I really don't understand is how the people see Ted is a bad person while barney who has mental issue and need therapist to cure him of the lying and treating woman as objects is the good one !!!! I really don't understand

[@thegedankenexperiment1556]

What Ted had definitely wasn't an obsession. You said he ignored the reality when in fact he accepted the fact the they can't be together and gave Barney his blessing. Heck he even set Robin straight when she freaks out at the wedding and asks Ted to elope with her.

[@Teddygramtoast]

And that kids, is why I only accept the alternate ending as valid

[@mooble1325]

i love that they wrote an ending they thought everyone would love and be satisfied by and it's just universally hated. i feel like that's the disappointment they deserve.

[@Sophia.Stark17]

Robin ending up with Barney would be the perfect ending, they grew together, got over their commitment fears and at the same time they were stil independent and dynamic and they appreciated each other for it..but noooo we just had to see that stupid blue french horn thing again and have a full circle ending blah blah

[@hegluj6796]

It’s also a relationship that felt way more natural since from the beginning you could see that they were best friends in the group like Marshall, lily and ted that happened to realize how happy they made each other and it was such a breath of fresh air not seeing the protagonist get the girl he wants just because he is the protagonist but they decided to throw that away

[@kkn_d7194]

Alas, if the social media were so hot like this right now.. We could've start a petition just like GOT s8 to re write script and re-telecast 😅

[@Sophia.Stark17]

@@kkn_d7194Haha, and I would be first in line to sign believe me 😂

[@FunnyLittleFrog]

Oh please... Barney is insufferable. She'd run off in no time

[@nefos8531]

@@Sophia.Stark17 ωπ γεια! i totally agree. i think robin and barney belonged together and the end was a huge mistake and out of character for everyone

[@arinadaze5160]

Totally agree. Feel sorry for her

[@BigBlackGuyReviews]

DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO! WHATEVA! WHATEVA! I FEEL WHAT I WANT!🤣🖖🏾

[@sucons4254]

Tracy seemed as valuable to Ted as all the other women that were only in one episode

[@luca57882]

OMG yes! All of them were "the one" 😂

[@dakazoos]

HIMYM ended with Robin marrying Barney and Ted marrying Tracey and that was it.

[@benjaminanthony3336]

Yes that was the ending and then the audience killed the writers for thinking for a second to do something else

[@nihaarikasingh9524]

"When you love someone, you don't stop" How did we miss how creepy and clueless this man is??

[@Norimarisu]

Right? Right! Right? And he said that AFTER she had said no to him but yes to Barney and WHILE he was trying to get a gift for HER WEDDING WITH ONE OF HIS BEST FRIENDS.

[@Elimbi1]

Technically Ted is right but he didn't realize that if he actually cared about Robin he would have respected her wishes....

[@stevemyopinion423]

he did respect her wish, he was going to LEAVE the state to get over her, only when he meets someone he thought he could fall in love with did he stay.

[@billuraral1870]

Everytime Ted meets a -convinantly attaractive- woman, he starts imagining them in wedding gows, then with baby carrieges. He's basically the guy from "You" without the murders.

[@PumpkinMozie]

The problem with this is that you’re referencing Ted early on in the show before his character grows. He goes through a lot of character development to get over his ridiculous fantasy of the perfect girl and eventually able to love Robin silently while expecting nothing from her in return. Hell, he goes out of his was to HELP Barney get her back *multiple times* (because Barney is too clueless/selfish to get there on his own). Does that sound like someone who feels entitled to her? Not at all! It’s not fair to judge him based on early episodes because he becomes much better than that.

[@sucons4254]

Robin was THE ULTIMATE male fantasy. It was so IRRITATING. 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@MarissaCooperButPoor]

I always liked Lily better, she was way more relatable and queen.

[@MarissaCooperButPoor]

@Natsu Dragneel More manipulative than Barney? 😂 girl no. I liked her, she was funny, relatable in many of her darkest moments, sometimes selfish but at the end very human. I respect your opinion but I disagree...

[@MarissaCooperButPoor]

@Natsu Dragneel Do you need something? 😂😂😂 I like Lily better than Robin. I like Barney the least because he is just not my cup of tea.The actor is great, the character....debatable.

[@MarissaCooperButPoor]

@Natsu Dragneel not much to say about it. I have my opinion and I stand by it, you have yours. It's ok. To each their own.

[@woolypuffin392]

Nope not for me. She looks good but that it. I always loved Lily.

[@xyouaresonaive]

it's been so long yet I'm still as furious about this ending as I was when it aired.

[@zt2552]

Same!!! 🙌🏻

[@alouise]

Yep, HIMYM is one of those shows I won't even rewatch because the ending ruined all the character development in the show. I also didn't like the ending of Friends (for similar reasons to HIMYM), but I'll watch a rerun of that show if it's on TV. HIMYM I change the channel.

[@tatianavalenzuela4626]

It’s actually sad how the show also threw away her relationship with Barney. It would have made a lot of sense to have a “happy ending” for both where they find balance in their life as individuals and as a couple. It makes me mad how they had to damage Barney’s character development & complexity to justify how Ted was still “the man for Robin” when he never was, just to give both characters shitty endings compared to what their personality really was. If the whole point was to prove that Barney’s “love of the life” was his daughter, they could have dissolved Robin & Barney’s marriage in a healthy way without implying that Robin will always have to choose between her career & her personal life & that Barney is a scumbag cheater who after all is just forgiven because of parenthood.

[@monabohamad2242]

So romance is supposed to make sense?

[@tatianavalenzuela4626]

Mona Bohamad2 Well yeah, to a certain extent. If you’ve been developing characters for 8 seasons to pair them up in the last one so it doesn’t seem forced & out of nowhere, logically you wouldn’t screw that development & those characters up in the last episode. The problem isn’t that the finale is unrealistic but that it is not plausible.

[@schneir5]

I think it's safe to say that we all were let down by the "How I Met Your Mother" dumpster fire of a series ending. It made the ending of "Dexter" look like "Citizen Cane".

[@isidorabojovic6859]

Honestly, every main character’s ending in HIMYM sucks except for Marshall and Lily

[@bermego7]

Ehh lily also sucks

[@PrincessSybilla77]

bermego7 Oh God! Thank you for saying that

[@jimbolic0809]

@@PrincessSybilla77 Honest question. Why do so many people dislike Lily?

[@RyoKasai25]

@@jimbolic0809 At least for me it was her hypocrisy. She left Marshall to follow her dream of being an artist, which is fair, but when that fails she crawls back to him and years later she's mad at Marshall for following his dream.

[@GirlDo3]

@@jimbolic0809 And she's nosy af. She broke up Ted's couples. She's selfish. She broke Marshall's heart and then got mad when he didn't immediately take her back and wanted to ruin their christmas because Ted had called her a bitch for doing that even tho she abandonned both of them. She made him work a corporate job instead of being an enviromental lawyer because she had credit card debts for her clothes. When she worked for the captain she became entitled af and never had time for Marshall. When it was time to chose between her and Marshall's dream they chose Lily's and she was about to leave him since for once in their lifetime he wanted to poursue his dream instead of bowing to queen Lily and her dreams. We saw that he was miserable at his job for like another 10 years after Rome before finally living his dreams when he was a middle aged man.

[@bessblackburn]

This is like the modern-day equivalent of 19th century novels where women have to get married by the end of the book

[@quitti]

This is one of the main reasons I can't rewatch HIMYM the last season undid a lot of character development. Robin was a great character. I got her. Loved that she was the way she was... and then they made sure Ted got EVERYTHING HE WANTED. She got her career ... and a divorce and ... what? A sad single life until that sad sack she dumped came back to save her from the isolated tower she was locked in

[@wonderwoman5663]

Sometimes it felt like she was the "cool girl" mixed with the "not like other girls" girl.

[@wonderwoman5663]

@twizzlytwit kind of but also different

[@cherylhulting1301]

Yes; I saw a lot of the "Cool Girl" stereotypes written into Robin's character over time as well.

[@allyli1718]

twizzlytwit Cool Girl is a form of not like other girls, but more specific

[@cjchristensen6290]

I think that even though a lot of the "cool girl" qualities can be seen in her, she's never putting on this act FOR men. In fact, when she is actively trying to get the attention of guys (like Simon or that guy also obsessed with the girl next door), she often acts more stereotypically feminine than she is as a person.

[@Coolygirl031]

THATS what made her annoying! lol

[@kkn_d7194]

Thats why this show became *Friends* show wannabe. If it could've ended up with resolving and deserving ending. This show could've one of most rewatchable shows.

[@rae0993]

Agreed. I always see it available on Hulu and can't bring myself to click. The structure of the show from the beginning really kills its rewatchable factor. Shows like Friends and The Office are still rewatchable because they started with a simple premise and grew, which is honestly saying something for the Office because those later seasons are a chore to get through. They allowed their characters to grow and change with the series. HIMYM was so determined to fit into that small box they made for themselves at the end of season 2 that they killed any chance of it being a all time popular sitcom.

[@roeseldelgado]

MISSed Bandwagon y

[@tammymartinez7488]

@Black Ninjaseason 9 is hard to watch. Except for Tracy scenes

[@keirorin]

Tbh Robin just landed into a super toxic friend group who never had her best interests in mind, she deserved a better social life all in all

[@soo7072]

THISS. But she wouldnt have met barney though

[@icohen1627]

@@soo7072 Barney is her toxic friend

[@lorrainezea7988]

Robin's got daddy issues and so does Barney.

[@ThePicturePixie]

I always thought Barney had Mommy issues.

[@Belacroix5]

@@ThePicturePixie definitely

[@sierra3644]

barney just has issues

[@Nightman221k]

Oddly enough I thought if Barney hadn't ended up with Robin, he had a cute thing with Nora ... until they made him realize he saw her as his mommy surrogate.

[@jigsaw_fallingg]

@@sierra3644 HSJSYSHRUE

[@reimarz]

If they wanted for Barney and Robin to break up so much then they should’ve let her stay single and independent. Instead she was like a woman’s worst nightmare come to life. Ted said that Robin was never alone and yet in the finale, she was alone. I love Robin and Barney together and them being happy together honestly made sense. But I wouldn’t have been opposed to seeing Robin thrive as a working career woman But I guess that’s what happens when the writers are pretentious male who’re the embodiment of the “nice guy” trope

[@monabohamad2242]

If it made sense then Barney and Robin should NOT have stayed together cuz isn't love supposed to NOT make sense?

[@jungookookie413]

She’s never alone, but she was lonely, she can’t even hang out with the gang bcs it hurt her to see her exes somewhat happy with their own life. There was a moment when the gang, including barney can’t hang out past 9 pm in the bar, bcs they have to put their kids to sleep, robin won’t relate to that. Any successful person will get lonely without support system.

[@sandoristar7597]

Barney was the one who see eye to eye with Robin. Barney says that in a sentence : Robin is more important to him than babies, something Tad was not ready to do.

[@richieriveraalonso690]

yeah and how did that end??? Plus, Ted has always liked Robin. It took a near-death experience for Barney to like Robin.

[@sandoristar7597]

@@richieriveraalonso690 Aside from Ted and Robin were incompatible, Ted liked Robin but Robin didn't the way Ted wanted, plus the chemistry between Barney and Robin was great ( until the end of season 8 ). As for how did that end, inconsistently in respect of 8 earlier seasons

[@richieriveraalonso690]

@@sandoristar7597 Incompatible?! Literally, Robin and Barney said themselve that they could never workout because they are incompatible with each other when they were engaged so you are wrong there. The only reason why Robin never wanted to get serious with TEd was because she didn't want to have kids. Lastly, the ending wasn't inconsistent

[@sandoristar7597]

@@richieriveraalonso690 Well if you see that only the kid part was their difference I can see why you think Ted and Robin were good for each other

[@cherylhulting1301]

@@richieriveraalonso690 The reasons Robin and Ted weren't right for each other were more than about kids.

[@LilySaintSin]

She should have ended up with Barney.

[@FunnyLittleFrog]

Nah, Barney was a douchebag even by the end of the show. Robin wouldn't tolerate him

[@MeghanaAnjali]

@@FunnyLittleFrog Barney was a douchebag who became a good guy and then became a douchebag again just so that Ted and Robin could end up together

[@DrBitchcraft.]

That or single. Tbh I would have preferred her to stay single and move abroad for good. Like, can’t we have an ending that is not all about romance.

[@Victoria-pt4io]

Dr Bitchcraft I wanted her to remain with Barney cause I thought they fit well together, but would have 1000% have preferred her to remain single than with Ted 😒

[@therealneal3034]

akiko Isobel she did. They had a 3 year successful marriage

[@wolfishxwillow]

I was ready to give this a like from the title alone.

[@hannahrebeccamurphy]

The show should have ended with Robin still travelling for work and being in an open marriage with Barney 💁‍♀️

[@SuperBrictson]

And people say Ted is delusional

[@dominicishmael]

I find it humorous that people want justification for their own lifestyles through made-up television scenarios.

[@LegioXXI]

@@dominicishmael Underrated comment. This summons up 90% of the comments here.

[@zouj7640]

The ending was perfect except the last scene with the kids and the blue French horn. A more fitting ending would've been: "This was not the story of how you met mom, it's about how your friends got married and did awesome things." and the Ted would conclude the show with the message that no matter what your friends are there and you can't force life to do what you want or something like that.

[@somethingcooliguess]

I’m curious of your take on Lily. I find her to be so manipulative and petty, yet seen with such wisdom and beloved in the group. I feel like it’s a case where the “wife” or “mother” character gets what she wants because she can be scary if not appeased or seen as right because of some magical wife thing? People do what she wants or her bad ways somehow get justified. I don’t know if her lowest point was leaving Marshall for SF or breaking Ted up multiple times. She was my ex’s favorite character and he turned out to be quite controlling...so there’s a red flag. She holds a traditional lifestyle and yet is so close to Robin. I wonder about the contrasting nature of their friendship.

[@samanthakim1975]

I have such a mixed opinion about lily

[@Nightman221k]

I like Lily a lot, but she could get on my nerves because she would meddle in her friends' lives in ways that didn't always help them despite her being SO DAMN SURE she knew better than they did what was best for them.

[@salmasabry402]

I feel like her friends put her in the mom position alot . She is the go to girl when they're in trouble , like she has no problems or concerns of her own . So why act surprise when she does all this things , she is not a one dimensional character like everyone portray , she doesn't live to help her friends only. The Ted thing ,although she was wrong but it's still his fault , he keeps asking her about them and what to do and what not do . She's allowed to have mistakes as well , all the characters showed their selfish sides yet she was criticized the most . I honestly like and think she's quite impressive. She has the ability to live on her own tho , they should have explored that more . And although I love Marshall but he is kinda naive and needs someone like lily .

[@sunilpermaul7876]

At the end of the show, I like how Robin grows into a person who has done all the things her younger-self wanted to and now is ready for more. It shows character growth. I do wish Robin stayed with Barney as they seemed more similar and matched better than Robin and Ted.

[@shreya6234]

I know they already filmed the ending 8 years prior, but after seeing how much character development they made in those years, they should have just filmed a new one. The blue french horn was very sweet and nostalgic and I love it when shows come full circle, but in this case, it was just so abrupt and didn't fit at all.

[@emilyhurst8553]

I would have loved it if Ted gave Robin the blue French horn with the gang. What Robin wanted more than anything at the beginning was just to make a close group of friends and by the end she felt alienated. I feel like a token of friendship and solidarity was the kind of thing she needed.

[@kaniamusridharta8671]

The last time I was this early barney is still wearing the ducky tie

[@TJaeSpeaks]

SLAP BET!

[@sl4ttkuhu]

*My ending:* Ted loses feelings for Robin and vice versa. Robin and Barney have a strong willed loving marriage, where barney supports her career (just like he always had). Ted finds the love of his life, becomes a single dad and stops trying to chase after robin all over again. The gang still hangs out at MacLaren's closer than ever where Barney and Robin are happy, Ted finally achieved his dream of finding "the one", Lily and Marshall still together, Lily with her dream job, and Marshall with his.

[@HonorWillow]

I know this video was about Robin but Lily in the ending shows this message too. The whole last season she's fighting with Marshall about their careers and she's trying to make it in the art world. Come the finale though and she has more children and.... oh yeah that's it. We find out nothing more. She's a wife and mother, what else matters?

[@salmasabry402]

Does anyone care about lily tho , everyone sees her as one dime bitch . I mean how dare she to have a dream while Marshall does ,right?? They also did her dirty .

[@LaMenteOpen]

Lmfao! The devil works hard but The Take works harder! I had literally just said how Princess Carolyn was everything Robin should’ve been in the other video, and here we are!

[@harrybryan-dooher4861]

I just straight up refuse to accept that as the ending- the alternative ending is the one in my mind. Tracy and Robin deserved better.

[@thefractured_butwhole]

I didn't realize how much of a disservice the last episode is to the characters.

[@monabohamad2242]

Not really

[@hegluj6796]

Franklin Mena I wonder what would’ve happened to Marshall if he had a relationship with robin, he probably would’ve been killed so ted could be with robin

[@Moeller750]

It's an interesting contrast with Barney's story. Everyone, myself included, thought it made perfect sense for Barney's arc to be completed with finding love in his baby daughter. Strictly speaking, that's actually almost a "career woman settling down" story. The difference is, HIMYM never felt any need to punish Barney for not wanting that life - or for living the wild bachelor life, and feels no need to elaborate on his life as a father. personally I would have loved to see Barney as a single father, but we don't even know if that's the setup he chose, because in film and tv a man's life is not defined by parenthood

[@beyaleet8638]

Robin and Ted were a really cute couple in the beginning, they had a lot of chemistry and when it came down to it the only thing keeping them apart was their different goals in life. However as the series went on their romantic chemistry lessened, Ted was developed so that his "perfect woman" would more line up with Tracy while Robin had more chemistry with Barney. What I hated was that it never felt like Ted really got over Robin. Getting over her always amounted to meeting another girl and starting a relationship with her, but that's not what getting over someone looks like. Every time he broke up with (insert love interest here) he would run back to Robin not long after. He never truly accepted that they weren't right for each other. Not until the day of her wedding to one of his best friends did he stop, and even then he didn't get over her (was moving to Chicago to get space from her and Barney), but just accepted that he couldn't have her. The show built up to Tracy like she was the endgame but when it came down to it treated her more like any one of Ted's other love interests, a detour on his way back to Robin. I've heard many people claim that Ted and Robin coming back to each other in the future after they've achieved their goals and finally grown into people who are actually compatible with each other was a good/realistic ending, but it all falls flat under the weight of the writers' horrible execution. If they did want to put them together it should have been treated as a new beginning after some time with Tracy and a more satisfying/less abrupt ending to her character. The show was literally titled How I Met Your Mother, the mother should be the conclusion! To be honest, I don't think Robin ending up with Ted in the end would have necessarily ruined her character. She was exactly at the level of success she had always said she wanted and likely was travelling less for work at that point (the like 5 dogs at the end makes that clear) and I also never really got the vibe that she would have disappeared into Ted's family/have become a mom to his kids. The kids were mostly grown up and already had a relationship with her as "Aunt Robin" and she had that relationship with them. She'd be more like "Dad's wife and our Aunt Robin" than "Mom 2.0". I don't like how it was executed in reality though since they framed it as Ted rescuing her from loneliness and had Robin pining after Ted during that Halloween party when it was abundantly clear they never should have been together at that point in their lives.

[@panayiotagregoriou805]

is not about a woman NEEDING a man. Is about one person WANTING to be with a partner. we are social people. Of course we should not need anyone, but choosing to be with them is not a bad thing. Let's not force the idea that women should be satisfied ONLY by their work, as we should not force the idea that women should be satisfied ONLY by a partner or a family. That's what feminism is all about: being able to choose, and not be judged about it. Thank you internet for coming to my TedTalk. Thank you feminism for giving me, a 25 year old woman, the opportunity to express my thoughts!

[@falconeshield]

This show's ending was Got S8 before GoT S8

[@rae0993]

I will defend GOT to the day I die (though not the final season's treatment for Jon. That one is always gonna sting), but damn if this isn't an accurate comparison.

[@wikus2411]

At least GOT spent the last season disappointing us over and over so by the time it ended we were pretty underwhelmed already. HIMYM just sucker punched it's fans right at the end then slammed the door in their face.

[@daynabailen4331]

If the writers really wanted this ending, they should have made Barney and Robin’s wedding 1 episode, and made the last episode the rest of the season. They could have shown Robin being there for the family after losing Tracy and it would have made the ending make much more sense. It’s also weird that the kids called her “Aunt Robin” the whole time when she clearly had stopped hanging out with the group.