How I Qualified to Ban Gliscor

[@OPEK.]

bro is so hyped just to say he might ban gliscor

[@freezailive3842]

it is our moral duty to confront evil

[@KanderUdon]

@@freezailive3842i think he was saying you “might” as in you were unsure

[@ayo-whats-this]

​@@KanderUdonhe might be able to defeat evil I guess. Can't predict what would happen.

[@danpohl8161]

Confront... Or maybe accept ​@@freezailive3842

[@noivern1380]

@@freezailive3842it is never moral to ban a funny little fella

[@Thund3rDrag0n12]

Everyone gotta find someone who loves them as much as Freezai hates Gen 9 Gliscor

[@jeffypwnzu]

so like a little bit and kind of unsure?

[@maestro9765]

Even though Landorus literally exists. I'd rather be sentenced to the breaking wheel rather than see Landorus ever again.

[@Veristelle-]

​@@maestro9765Same, so incredibly tired of him after years of him being everywhere

[@maestro9765]

@@Veristelle- Thank you for saying this. I am sick to death of people claiming that Landorus is "healthy for the meta", as if being de facto mandatory on very team in ou for 10 years straight with 30 different viable sets is "healthy". Pretty sure that is the polar opposite of healthy. Also doesn't help that Landorus literally looks like sloppy dog poop and makes me want to barf every time I see him. Thundurus was nerfed into the ground in like one year, so it really seems well deserved for this monstrosity to finally be sent back to the fiery pits of hell where he belongs.

[@Veristelle-]

@@maestro9765 No. Thank you for agreeing about being unhealthy af. Literally, anything else remotely as common is always seen as toxic af, but SOMEHOW he is healthy even after such an insane amount of time. You can really tell who just love using him versus not.

[@loftilywrongly3483]

It's been almost a year since I've played competitive Pokemon or even watched anything besides ADV OU, but the fact that Omari P is still using Mandibuzz Sun in CG OU brings a smile to my face.

[@Sikk2]

i just started playing anything other then randbats just a couple of days ago and it’s honestly so funny seeing all the gliscor running around in low ladder and knocking them off before the toxic orb comes in affect. happened like 3 times today and it really brightens my day

[@aceguy1234]

I don't think Omari P would actually quit on a crit, he disconnects kinda often lol

[@QuiescentPilot]

Yea I remember that guy’s been rolling with that Mandibuzz team since Gen 7 or smth (obvs changing it gradually over the gens) and I think he’s always had pretty shoddy internet and disconnects pretty often

[@pmwaffle9348]

​@QuiescentPilot not necessarily the same team since he was running some wack cacturne shit for a while this gen but he's definitely mandibuzz's strongest soldier

[@QuiescentPilot]

@ lmao I never saw the cacturne heat but 1000% he’s mandibuzz’s strongest soldier o7

[@deformations]

bro shoutout omari p on second battle, good to see him still cooking

[@bigpoggers6507]

Laddering like crazy purely to ban a pokémon you don't like is insane hating, I respect it

[@RollingBobbyJones]

... you lit have to do that to vote

[@Veristelle-]

@@RollingBobbyJones Yes, that's what he is saying. Doing it JUST to do the vote is dedicated hatred.

[@judehastings301]

@@RollingBobbyJonesthat’s the joke

[@hodeesy]

Will we ever get the ending of the final day of randbats tournament and the finals?

[@jackdias9263]

Once game 2 loaded and I saw Mandibuzz, I just thought “Wait is this Omari P?” And sure enough. Lol.

[@ShirayukiRaito]

Who's omari p is he famous player or something ? i saw him in one of joey / blunder video and they talking about him

[@jackdias9263]

@ He’s been around for a while and was active on forums frequently back in Gen 7-8 but I haven’t seen him post recently. Generally decent player. Known for using Victini and Mandibuzz in particular.

[@Cats83747]

13:45 that’s blimax LOL

[@joeldixton5627]

Get blimax to 10k subs 😤

[@Cats83747]

@@joeldixton5627 on GOD

[@Wonderlvnd]

Bro beat Blimax to qualify 😭

[@borzafror]

the first opponent actually used a team built by pinkacross

[@jmcbango]

I havent been up to date with the meta for a bit, but im surprised were seeing another gliscor suspect given that kyurem ended up sticking around

[@Blimaxx]

What a crazy game!

[@nistrosempai5285]

The last one was blim :O, GG

[@elijahmcblack3180]

So mad you didn't swords dance on the obvious protect from gliscor at 8:20

[@aldrichunfaithful3589]

i feel like no cc on valiant is making that team a lot harder to play than it needs to be, you have almost entirely special attacks and you've struggled with a lot of special walls in these vids. i don't think vacuum wave is particularly worth sacrificing the raw physical damage off cc even if its uninvested. as for the gliscor suspect i'm undecided, it's really annoying to break through but there's also a lot of really annoying threats that are hard to check, i'd lean towards ban though

[@Goldeneye3336]

Harder for bad players like you who can't predict shit. Any decent player will use this set to great effect. You are therefore not a great player. Probably not qualified to vote on Gliscor amirite 😂😂😂😂

[@Juniper_Rose]

the irony of bee lining to banning a physical wall as he absolutely ignores special walls. next series: laddering to ban glowking

[@steadystackin7250]

Let's ban all the good mons. In fact, OU should be banned. Let's all just play ZU

[@aldrichunfaithful3589]

@@steadystackin7250 that's crazy

[@borzafror]

the main problem with gliscor is that he clicks tera normal and avoids a 4x effective ice attack. currently the main problem with gliscor is the SD facade sets that wouldnt be a problem if you could outspeed it and just one shot it with ice coverage (which a ton of fast mons get in ou). not like a 95 base attack mon is one hit koing everything with a non stab attack

[@juniormoore773]

I like the team, but no hazard removal is a let down for me

[@muffincopnoicingforme8220]

Im afraid to get on freezais bad side, man would grind sets to hit me with an actual ban HAMMER

[@MoinCoin]

wait mask boosts all attacks? dang i thought it was only for water moves

[@danielsmith5032]

I think Valiant is actually a problem and should be suspected. Unless you have a fairy or poison type, you’re getting hit by perfect coverage off of two ridiculous offensive stats. You can’t tell if it’s physical or special

[@alathreon8315]

Me with 5 pokemons in my team that by conincidence, beat Gliscor : nah Gliscor isn't a problem.

[@lagalil]

16:02 how is sludgewave stronger than d-gleam when you factor in tera?

[@danielsmith5032]

Sludge wave is a higher base power move. Both would get STAB

[@gzhosty]

14:30 why not just knock u wouldve gotteb ko had he stayed which he did and if he switched its chip + they lose their item

[@Nako3]

These stall losers never learn their lesson!

[@vladfi1]

Isn't Gliscor literally unchanged since Gen 5? As someone who doesn't play much anymore it's hard to imagine it needing to be banned given all the powercreep that's happened.

[@monstergamer5467]

gliscor now has spikes and tera, which it didnt have in gen 5, both of those are the main reasons why people want it banned

[@cryochick9044]

Genuine question Do you think the format would be very different if bans and tiering was based on tours instead of laddering?

[@newjumpcityjosh9333]

Why Terra dark blissey? Immunity to prankster moves lol?

[@nistrosempai5285]

Psyshock and stored power

[@newjumpcityjosh9333]

@ that makes a lot of sense for stall thanks

[@julez942]

Can someone explain to me why Gliscor is getting suspect tested? I stopped playing competitive in Gen 9, but afaik Gliscor didn't got any buffs besides Spikes in these games. Is Gliscor really that broken in Gen 9 OU?

[@monstergamer5467]

spikes on a mon that cant die is broken

[@monstergamer5467]

as well as being able to remove your 4x weakness

[@julez942]

@@monstergamer5467 So I think it's more because of Tera, right? Because we've had some bulky spikers on the older gens and they aren't banned because they had spikes and longevity.

[@MeLoener]

​@@julez942agreed. I feel like skarm in gen3 ou is harder to beat than gliscore in gen9

[@julez942]

@@MeLoener Skarm was really good in Gen 3 OU, even in Gen 4 OU it was really strong. Damn I miss the times when Skarm was a strong OU staple and when the old mighty SkarmBliss-Core was strong

[@CountGremlin]

Thank you for voting Ban. It's been a thorn on my side since BW OU days 😂

[@IWestrada]

Probably get every stall player to quit the game if this gets banned. Far from the most problematic thing in the metagame.

[@inefffable]

Ggs

[@Bigorna_SHEKT]

Uh maybe cuz you're the goat?

[@helper809]

IIf they're banning gliscor, then should ban Kyurem, it makes no sense that it isn't broken.

[@Blackhomeking12]

Please dont ban gliscor, he's just a guy

[@Plainguy8]

Oh, i was just binging your vid on this

[@doritos1784]

Same 😭

[@maestro9765]

Ok and now do the same but for poop zeus (Landorus)

[@Sir_Isaac_Newton_]

3:32

[@BirfdayBoi]

Jerma voice

[@Juan-rz2ye]

More OU plz 😊

[@triviszla1536]

come on, banning gliscor again? council needs to get laid and stop being a bunch of haters

[@נועםרוסו-ת6ק]

Don’t vote to ban gliscor, it’s annoying right but we can’t fu***** ban every Pokemon that is annoying, I can understand banning Pokemon that is braking the game, but gliscor isn’t, is he good? yes, is he annoying? ABSOLUTELY but it will be so Stupid to Ban every Pokemon that we don’t like, It’s a part of the game so just live with it, I hate him but I will never vote to ban him cuz he has been an important part of the game for years, people are just making the ou tier a pu like what is going on!?!?!? STOP BANGING EVERY POKEMON U DONT LIKE

[@ThePenisMan]

Do note that the only good reason to ever play smogon is for fun Therefore, site rules should solely focus on what’s fun to the people who play it the most. Now fun can mean a lot of things to a lot of people. Bad sportsmanship, overpowered strats, and RNG-reliant strats are all things people don’t have fun playing against, so they’re banned. Annoying strats also aren’t fun and should be banned. If you disagree, you should climb the ladder and vote yourself to keep a game about fun ‘annoying’ in your own words!

[@U2B4U]

Fully agree with the last line. Ever since the vaporeon meme, people have been banging all kinds of different pokemon to see which one is the very best.

[@afvpegknight]

​@@ThePenisMan but isn't smogon supposed to be "competive"? So youre admitting its a format for casuals?

[@ThePenisMan]

@ yeah, it’s competitive. The reason people are competitive is because it’s fun to be competitive to them, though. Just because your goal is winning doesn’t mean you need to be miserable to do it. Taking a game seriously doesn’t mean you’re not playing a game

[@afvpegknight]

​@@ThePenisMan nah its a format for casuals. Real competive pokemon doesn't have handicaps.

[@foxxsenpai]

this generation's OU is too ban-heavy. let power creep push mons to UU and have a strong OU, instead of having a lot of mons being unplayable in Ubers because they should be the OU top threats, but are banned instead

[@StikWitFlips]

First! Go Freezai!

[@achiiiesheal]

Funny that to try and ban gliscor, you're powering through elo and not using it yourself. Surely proving it's an issue by using it to boost elo faster would be better?

[@C3l3bi1]

lmao what kinda dog argument is that? if he played gliscor stall or balance each game would take forever.

[@aarona7591]

That is a whole separate thing, what are you talking about? Have you seen the game with Gliscor in this particular video alone ?

[@ellowell8160]

it's just one factor but it's just as valid to climb your way up there to confirm that facing gliscor while laddering was annoying

[@achiiiesheal]

​​@@aarona7591 yeah i saw it. Freez still won comfortably with no need for crits or luck. I've seen freez and Michael struggle more with blisseys than gliscors

[@achiiiesheal]

​@@ellowell8160yeah fair point. I'm not a player myself but I watch tons of top players games and while I get the of the videos and bans, it would be better to demonstrate the issues first hand to show what's broken. But I don't know if freezai intends to make videos to an audience like me or just more involved players

[@vudang6366]

Gholdengo should be banned plz😢

[@incognitobutnot]

wat did my boi gliscor do to go to ag???