The WORST Pokémon to Use in Every Pokémon Generation

[@HoopsandHipHop]

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[@meddagoat]

This video is lazy

[@draum8103]

only if you don't post a freaking 5 minute intro with ads, otherwise I'm not watching this channel again

[@juanca2567]

1. Onix: I get it. If only Body Press was introduced earlier. But in Let’s go Pikachu and Eevee is when Awakening values make all Pokémon acceptable (even Caterpie, Magikarp, Geodude, etc.), especially with Master Trainers. That ironically made Ditto the worst Kanto Pokémon in Let’s go Pikachu and Eevee. 2. Sunflora: Don’t worry, I get it. Scarlet and Violet might bring something according to leaks. 3. Beautifly: It got a buff in special attack stat and was in Legends Arceus, so it had a win. 4. Bastiodon: WHY WAS IT NOT GIVEN BODY PRESS?! At least it has Power Shift in Legends Arceus. 5. Ferrothorn: At least it’s good in the competitive scene, but Unova is not nice to Steel types (Volcarona, Fighting type galore, and Bulldoze users). 6. Aurorus: You need Trick Room, let’s be honest. But Mega Evolution Pokémon are usually fast, so forget about it. 7. Crabominable: Vikavolt got to evolve earlier in Ultra Sun and Moon. This is just sad. 8. Perrserker: It’s actually good because there are too many Fairy types, and there are TWO specialists. Morpeko: At the final four in Shield can Nessa and Allister be threatened. Bea in Sword is dangerous though. 9. Hisui?: Any comment on the 2nd region in Gen 8?

[@alphagroudon2]

@@juanca2567 He said he’s only talking about the main game in the generation. Legends Arceus and LGPE aren’t considered the main games of their respective generations so he’s not going to be talking about them

[@meddagoat]

@@juanca2567 it takes neutral damage from ground and flying types. Goddamn, y’all are deranged and stupid. Ferrothorn Grass/Steel. And while you’re right about the weakness to fire and fighting, it’s not entirely unusable in an adventure. And also the player gets eviolite early in the adventure too, so how is it the worst when it works out for ferroseed and Ferrothorn. And also, they destroy brycen, takes little damage from skyla and full on resist drayden.

[@abhyss1822]

You cannot take type weaknesses one by one. Some cancels each other out, you need to account for the weaknesses of the pokemon in question. Also what about resistance? I'd rather have a Pokemon that help me through 2 gym and is weak for 3 other rather than having a Pokemon that is only weak in one but useless in every gym. A look at the movepool of the Pokemon would be necessary too, even during the adventure a pokemon with a bad movepool or a movepool that doesn't match the stats is useless. I love the design of Ledian with all my heart, but I would have pick him in Gen 2. Weak to only two gym, resist to 3, and strong against... none, even if he has type advantage, he doesn't learn any STAB naturally or through TM. His other move are mostly physical and while he has 35 in attack.

[@patrickzalatoris3206]

It really has a bad move pool with mainly physical attacks, and special attacks you need lots of tms for it, it's a cool looking pokemon, but it just has bad stats and bad move pool

[@devenvandyke1114]

Does nobody remember delibird, while you can't use it until you beat the 7th gym, it's useless aginst the elite 4 and needs a tm to be ok aginst clair.

[@musicstuff6310]

For the same reason, onix is way, way better than pokemon like lickitung or ditto in gen 1 lol. First of all rock, ground is an amazing type(one of the best in gen 1). Weaknesses dont matter when youre using a mon for its strengths. Also it has good matchups vs koga, blaine, bruno(fighting type is a joke in gen 1) Agatha, lance, and the champion. I mean have you seen the movesets of the e4 in gen 1 lol. Sure onix has trash stats, but if you give it eq or dig or rock slide it will put in work. I swear people have opinions over pokemon theyve never used before and it shows. Onix id say is bottom 10, and is outclassed by other rock/grounds, but it is way better than a good chunk of the worse pokemon in the generation. Onix is a fast, defensive rock type, you can pivot in on things it walls and beat them. Definitely has its uses and has a niche of being a fast rock type. Also try rage on it, that patches up its attack stat real fast

[@YamatoFukkatsu]

@@musicstuff6310 Indeed, and it disappointed me that this video just completely glossed over the fact that Onix's speed is comparatively decent for a fully-evolved (at the time) Rock-type, instead just saying half of its base stat total is defense, then painting every other stat with a broad brush as being garbage. But yeah, I really can't say this video was a good analysis, even with the stipulation of only counting Pokemon within that generation. Now, regardless of what some people's views on Smogon's competitive scene are, their site also hosts in-game tier lists for the earlier games that I find to be fantastic. They evaluate pretty much every Pokemon available pre-ending based on a number of factors like their stats, their level-up movepools, their reliance on TMs, the point you have access to them in the game, how long they'll take to evolve, and possibly others. They aren't just horribly simplifying it to stuff like "hurr durr, Grass weak to too many Gyms" (never mind that maybe over three-quarters of the Pokemon in any region won't even see the first couple of Gyms anyway...... and good god, that Ferrothorn analysis sounded like it was VERY close to completely leaving out the fact that Steel greatly covers for most of Grass's weaknesses, with Grass itself even neutralizing Steel's Ground weakness, and is extremely useful against the last couple of Gyms' typings of Ice and Dragon).

[@srarts123]

I feel a lot of what is overlooked is also where these pokemom are available. Sure ferroseed evolves at lvl 40 and is weak to clay only i think? But you don't get it until after clay unless you were traded it over.

[@phantom4765]

My man's said ferrothorn has four weakness (it doesn't, it's only weak fighting and fire so the only trainers it's weak to is marshal, steel makes flying and ice neutral and poison do nothing and grass makes ground neutral) and because it only evolves at level 40 meaning you "have to use it up until the 5th or 6th gym, despite the fact you only get ferrothorn after fighting the 5th gym (also this gen introduced the eveolite so the baby stage excuse doesn't work as well)

[@Ryodraco]

I feel like he should have done some more research or ran this script by some more people first. When you catch them is especially something that should have been considered more.

[@phantom4765]

@@Ryodraco watchog and liepard are right there, or even basculin and they picked ferrothorn

[@stephenbernham3232]

The monkeys are way weaker then ferrothon like wtf is he saying xD I want to see an npc take down a ferrothorn with leach seed curse power whip and iron head like yeah oh and holding a leftovers like really what is he saying

[@supersaiyannigga5980]

@@phantom4765 watchog and basculin are so ass and boring💀

[@venomgaming7014]

Ferrethorn is actually pretty solid. 2 weaknesses, decent offensive and defensive typing, good coverage, powerful stab moves like power whip and gyro ball, iron barbs, amazing trick room Pokémon makes a solid Pokémon.

[@Warhawk9012]

Ferrothorn is arguably one of the *best* Pokémon on this list, but it’s one of those Pokémon that's better suited to the competitive environment (there's a reason it's been OU since its debut and can even hold its own in *Ubers.)* As for weaknesses, don't forget that dual types often *neutralize* the other type’s weaknesses, meaning Ferrothorn only has *two* (2x fighting & 4x fire.) One must also remember that BST doesn't tell you *everything* about how good or bad a Pokémon is. You have to take into account *stat spread* (how are its stats are *distributed?* Are they allocated in the right areas?) *Abilities* (does the Pokémon get a beneficial ability?) *Movepool* (does it learn moves that cover its weaknesses, support its teammates or hit many types for super effective damage? Do the bulk of its moves run off its higher attacking stat?)

[@JanusHoW]

Yeah, imagine Bastiodon's defensive stats on something that isn't a Steel/Rock type, which has a bazillion weaknesses with only a quad-resistance to Normal moves. Perhaps, say, a pure Water type.

[@russellbrown6888]

@@JanusHoW You'd basically have a Pyukumuku with slightly better stats.

[@heather_foreather]

Oh wow

[@heather_foreather]

I can understand why he didnt do that thats a lot of things to research and stuff

[@argenisjrg]

Yeah, this guy has a grudge against Ferrothorn. There's no other logical explanation.

[@idontwantmynameshowing3544]

Weaknesses don’t mean everything in a play through. A tanky Ferrothorn can be very good against Clay-Drayden along with Caitlyn. Not to mention the grunts use Leipard a fast but frail pokemon and Garbodor as two of the most common. Personally I found Watchog as the worst in Black and White. Maybe I am mistaken, but I’m not certain there. Thievul and Eldegoss are both worse IMO then Perrserker. I used a male salandit in my first play through. I’m not the only one to make that mistake it should get an honorable mention along with Charjabug for how long it takes, but Crabbrawler does taking as long as it does, does make Crabominable take the edge.

[@Ryodraco]

Yeah, lack of offensive power is probably the biggest weakness in a playthrough. Everything else can usually be worked around, especially weaknesses given the movesets of playthrough trainers are normally fairly predictable. Not to mention how Ferrothorn's type combo reduces it to only two weaknesses.

[@venomgaming7014]

@@Ryodraco that’s why steel is so good. Paired with other types helps moderate it’s weaknesses. Scizor? Loses the ground and fighting weakness. Ferrothorn? Loses the ground weakness. Water is one of the best types because of it’s versatility and having 2 weaknesses. Lanturn? Loses the electric weakness. Carracosta? Gets a 4X grass weakness, keeps the electric weaknesss and gains a fighting and ground weakness. Guess scizor gave carracosta those fighting and ground weaknesses. Kleavor is like a scizor but with rock type instead of steel, not much happens just changes from a 4X weakness to fire to 3 normal weaknesses to rock steel and water.

[@HeathRat]

My level 100 liepard:

[@amadorcortinas2749]

Yeah but you need a lot of strategy.If you use a good Pokemon it will be much easier but if you're looking for a challenge I guess it's alright but why not just play a hack most of the time they're better anyway.

[@_.SnowyNights._]

@@Ryodraco although we showdown players get around that lack of offense by playing the parasite game of rocky helmet, iron barbs, leech seed, giga drain and protect

[@theoneeyedfool]

I like most of this list, but maaan did you ever forget how type combinations actually work lmao. Ferrothorn’s only weaknesses are fire and fighting, so Chili and Marshal in BW (and you don’t even fight Chili if you don’t pick Snivy, and couldn’t have a Ferroseed at that point anyway without trading). The low speed hardly matters when you’ve got crazy good defenses and 11 resistances (remember, Steel resisted Dark and Ghost prior to XY), and even iron barbs to chip away at opponents while sponging hits. Also, Lv. 40 is only four levels higher than the final starter evos, and Ferroseed has at least as much utility as the middle stage starters up to that point.

[@matthewkuscienko4616]

Yeah, I have to agree. It's quite astonishing to me that Ferrothorn would somehow be labeled the worst Pokemon to use in an in-game playthrough when probably the worst thing about it is it's speed, and even that can be taken advantage of by using it's access to gyro ball

[@varuhash50]

It even has a good Attack stat! It can hit things! At least Bastiodon had more of a reason to be on the list, its a pure wall that cant even do that right

[@patrickzalatoris3206]

Yeah, ferrothorn was a beast, especially against marlin, and with its steel typing really helps against elite 4 members being resistant to psychic, ghost and dark is incredible

[@Nosretep]

Alder,Ghetsis,N,Shauntel and Reshiram are threats.

[@AlbRomano]

Also, lvl 40 is hardly the worse evolution level in gen V. You can't Hydreigon, Bisharp or Volcarona with the E4 lvl caps. So that's a generation wide problem.

[@Volkaroar]

So Ferrothorn is definitely not the worst mon to use in a playthrough. It's low speed stat actually works for it especially with the move Gyro Ball where damage is calculated the slower you are to an opponent. It's meant to challenge you in using it defensively to take down opponents. Set up ingrain and iron defense and a lot of physical mons will have a tough time with it. Pair it up with Rocky Helmet on top of its ability Iron Barbs makes it more of a threat since mons you use multi damage moves like Double Slap or Tail Slap effectively knock themselves out. Great power moves like Iron Head and Power Whip also come in handy with it. Whenever I do my playthroughs of the BW games I always add Ferrothorn to my team and it always comes in clutch. Looking at general criteria like this might put it lower but you have to know how to use it to make it actually useful.

[@Amelia4111]

*WE DON'T USE THE WORD ITS AS A PRONOUN IF THERE'S AN APOSTROPHE IN IT! STOP DOING THAT!*

[@Volkaroar]

@@Amelia4111 IT'SSSSSSS

[@OnOtterPilot]

I feel like Pyukumuku would be much harder to use in a playthrough, since it is does not really have offensive moves

[@venomgaming7014]

And it’s signature move heals a vital status condition while healing you. Wanted to poison but you wanna use pyukumuku? Don’t.

[@maninthetrenchcoat5603]

@@venomgaming7014 You could just not use Purify and toxic and recover stall to your heart's content.

[@KuaiZero99]

counter and mirror coat would be easy to use

[@Slenderquil]

I used Pyukumuku in a playthrough. Its ability helps a ton

[@whacker01]

I think people care mostly talking about the ferrothorn pick. Tbh it’s one if the best in gen 5. It’s not even offensively that weak. But I feel like better candidates for gen 2,3,4 would’ve been Shuckle, Unown, Jumpluff, Azumarill, Spinda, Castform, Cherrim, Kricketune. Sunflora at least has a special attack stat and unown only has 1 move. Spinda has 60s across the board while beautifly gets stab on flying which is good in at least 1 gym I suppose.

[@iantaakalla8180]

In fact, that boosting move is why Sunflora becomes great in Emerald Kaizo. It has enough coverage that it can boost itself and sweep. Yes, it only retained it because it is otherwise weak. But it still goes to show setup moves can sometimes put in work.

[@SNK_LRD]

I’ve used both Jumpluff and Cherrim in playthrough and I disagree. Hoppip obviously takes a while to get going, ESPECIALLY in the OG Gen 2 games, but once it gets leech seed and sleep powder, that’s really all you need. Jumpluff is fast and has decent defences so it can outspeed most mons, sleep powder and leech seed and basically either stall it out or let another Pokémon handle it. It helps that sleep is BROKEN in Gen 2. As for Cherrim, it’s a very neat Pokémon. It’s not the greatest, obviously, but it has a fun gimmick and is pretty fast.

[@Lusius8879]

don't forget Yanma for gen 2. might not be available early on without trading, but boi does it suck in that gen.

[@HellHathNoFuryAtAll8]

I knew at least 1 person would say Unown. And I agree that Ferrothorn had no business being on this list. For gen 3 I think that you can make an argument for either Spinda or Castform. Shuckle seems pretty bad on paper, and being slower than everything will make things take forever, but combine Defense Curl with Rollout, and you’re going to wreck everything, so I wouldn’t include it. Don’t f*ckle with Shuckle.

[@Lusius8879]

@@HellHathNoFuryAtAll8 disagree on castform. It might have some lower stats... But it needs 1 turn of set-up (the weather) to roll through almost any gym. Rain dance for gyms 1, 4 and 7, sunny day for gyms 2 and 3 (tho rain dance also works for 2), hail for gym 6. The only 2 problematic gyms are Norman (due to bulk) and Wallace/Juan (due to resisting all 3 weather forms). Then E4: sun for Sidney and Glacia (yes I know she has water moves, but sun lowers water damage, so it works out), and hail for Drake. Phoebe being a completely neutral match-up. Then champion; Steven is weak to water, while Wallace's champion team doesn't do too well against ice, as half his team has a secondary typing weak to ice. Combine all that with a 100% accurate 100 basepower stab move and you'll notice that the 70 sp.at starts to hurt quite a bit. And with 70 defenses + 70 hp, castform can quite reliably take a hit. The only problematic side is it's speed. But honestly, castform has enough coverage, tricks and adaptability to it's name to not be the worst. Not to mention: Volbeat and Illumise exist. Shedinja exists. Goodluck beating the fire gym with a shedinja. Or the rock gym. Or norman with his dark moves. Or the flying gym. Or the psychic gym with rock and fire moves. Or ANY of the elite 4 members. Or Steven. Or wallace, due to multiple pokemon having status damage, like toxic.

[@vish5942]

ferrothorn is absolutely broken in main game he takes on half the game by itself sounds like you just don't know how to use it which is odd since it's pretty self explanatory watchog is the worst by far bad typing bad stats can only try to gimmick mons with hypnosis or confuse ray ferrothorn carries watchog drags

[@skanaraki2161]

I second this, Iron Barbs + Rocky Helmet is a potent combination.

[@kelvinsmymiddlename5756]

Yeah, it’s weird for Hoops to say “Grass and Steel combined have 4 weaknesses” to the trainers’ typings when Ferrothorn itself has only two (one of which, Fire, is not even relevant for it anyways in the early game and can easily be covered by a water type). Plus, Ferroseed isn’t actually that awful and gets some solid moves such as Gyro Ball, Curse, and Ingrain. Then when it evolves into Ferrothorn it gets Power Whip, which coming off of its base 94 Attack is pretty hard-hitting. With a very good defensive typing that offers 10 resistances in Gen 5 and excellent defenses, Ferrothorn if anything is probably one of your most reliable picks in the main game. There’s a reason Ferrothorn has always been OU in every generation. Besides Watchog, my pick for worst Pokémon to use in a Gen 5 playthrough would’ve been Unfezant. Not only is it’s design very bland compared to most of the other Normal/Flying types we’ve had, it is also extremely mediocre. Stats are nothing to write home about, Normal/Flying is defensively terrible, and it’s level up and even TM move pool is very shallow. Seriously, it’s best Flying move besides Fly is Aerial Ace/Pluck?! Normal isn’t much better with only Return and Facade. Seriously, who even cares about Undezant?

[@skanaraki2161]

@@kelvinsmymiddlename5756 I've got a White 2 playthrough that I'm 194 hours in and Ferrothorn's Power Whip and defensive bulk has gotten me out of so many sticky situations. I run Poison Jab, Power Whip, Iron Head and Iron Defense on it and that thing is a monster.

[@brad6546]

@@skanaraki2161 yeah bro you add in spikes, stealth rock AND leech seed u can take like half a mf health bar in one turn

[@bananapee86]

@@kelvinsmymiddlename5756 farts to the max

[@lil96g]

BST doesn’t really mean anything in and of itself, it’s about the stat distribution, ability and move pool. Ferrothorn is great in the main game.

[@Warhawk9012]

Exactly! So many people look at BST and BST alone. It doesn’t tell you how good or bad a Pokémon is and the number doesn’t mean much if the stats are allocated in the wrong areas. Iron Barbs and Curse/Gyro Ball made Ferrothorn a solid Pokémon both in-game and competitive.

[@varuhash50]

Its like saying Rampardos is the best Pokemon to use period with that blistering 165 Attack stat, but completely ignoring its other abysmal stats that rarely go above 60 and wondering why its not good at all. Its called the "Rampardos Theorem," where absurd power doesnt mean its actually good, for a good reason

[@notdabestgaming7221]

Exactly. Hitmonchan is one of the best Pokemon for a playthrough imo, as his natural move pool allows him to be effective against most types. I've felt for a long time Hitmonchan is the only reason we're limited to 4 moves still. Because if we could use 6, and he got sucker punch or zen headbutt and bullet punch or poison jab...

[@casual3123]

I used a Crabominable in Moon on my first playthrough and it was one of the best Pokémon I ever used. It really isn't as bad everyone acts like it is. (Edit) Yes I know it's design isn't great but that doesn't make it a bad Pokémon to use.

[@eljordinio7647]

Appearance wise tho, it's not exactly good, which I defs realised after hearing about it. I mean that face is pretty bad looking, and that hair? Where did it get a haircut? It's terrible

[@hectordavidpulgarcedeno2089]

he is just overreacting since its obvios that he does not like its desing

[@casual3123]

Yeah he's just being biased cause "Haha overdone design bad joke that definitely hasn't been said by every human being ever amiright guys?"

[@Mugiwara2k]

I agree, most people dislike it solely because of its appearance.

[@kurigaru]

Hes iconic, he’s a legend and he is the moment

[@faletepower694]

Uh... I have to doubt a lot in the Ferrothorn one. It has good matchup against the Ice and Dragon gyms, resists the ghost and psychic elite four, and it can counter some N/Ghetsis mons (the most notorious being Zekrom in Black, Carracosta and Cofagrigus), mainly by stalling them. Plus, it has access to surprisingly strong physical moves like Power Whip and Gyro Ball (Low speed), and even Curse in case you can pull off a sweep thanks to its decent attack stat. There are worse mons like Sawsbuck, Cryogonal or Beartic, that truly don't have even the good defensive qualities that Ferrothorn has. Note that Steel/Grass is a really good type combo, being only weak to Fire (x4) and Fighting.

[@lolidemon3163]

It also resists dark, that change didn't go into effect til gen 6 wen dark was made to be neutral

[@milkywilky123]

Ferrothorn has been a competitive staple ever since it's introduction. It's one of the best Pokemon end of story. I'd be confident to say it could solo this entire game if you play around it well enough. Not only did you choose one of the best as one of the worst but Watchog exists

[@leargamma4912]

It can't solo the whole game. But when it joins? Sure. Really feasable, considering there are no major trainers that use fire moves outside of maybe white version N and ghetsis

[@milkywilky123]

@@leargamma4912 It definitely can solo the entire game, leech seed stall and gyro ball? Not to mention the other countless gimics it can successfully pull off.

[@leargamma4912]

@JP but you don't encounter it until after Clay's Gym. Unless you hack the game, you're stuck with other pokemon until then. And hacking it in as a starter just.... it isn't right.

[@milkywilky123]

@@leargamma4912 Okay sure you don't get it til late but the point of my comment was to say if you did hack it then it could solo the entire game. Also, don't nitpick how people play Pokemon. I'm going to start a gen 5 run where my hacked started is Feroseed and I'm gonna name it "Gammass" and solo unova with it.

[@tigrexkiller1548]

Base stat total dosnt make or break a pokemon, the individual stats and abilities do. As an example anyone who has ever used a Diggersby, wich has a BST of 423, with huge power will likely be able to tell you. I also feel like you think to brodly here, just because a speciffic pokemon does poorly in a certain Gym dosnt mean it will do poorly in the next

[@theshnoz352]

So base stat total and weaknesses dont mean everything. For instance with ferrothorn, you can play around its weaknesses with its great stat distrubution. While the total BST isn't amazing, the way the stats are distributed make ferrothorn way better than a lot of pokemon that have a higher BST than it, because in a lot of cases higher BST pokemon have pretty evenly distributed physical and special attack, when you normally are only going to use one of them. However, with ferrothorn, it's special attack and speed are very low, which makes it so all of its BST are in the other four traits that it actually uses to perform well, making it actually a very good pokemon to use, even if it has some common weaknesses.

[@sarahquinn6849]

Was listening and got Bastiodon and Gastrodon mixed up in my head, so when he said “Bastiodon’s rock type” I was thinking “isn’t it water/ground” 😅

[@akaxjenkins]

i think you're gonna have to re-do this video. You have to take into account both types of a pokemon to consider weaknesses, as well as their movesets/learnsets and not just stats. For example, sunflora isn't worse than unown, even if you found a max hidden power one with the most useful type.

[@akaxjenkins]

Others have mentioned ledian and delibird. The latter is caught late but ledyba is kind of early and is terrible in every way. Way, way worse than sunflora.

[@leargamma4912]

@Akax Jenkins I forgot about leydiba... ladyba?

[@notdabestgaming7221]

​@@akaxjenkinsYeah, Ledyba/Ledian is pretty bad and who I thought he was gonna say. I like that Pokemon too! Though Tbf, it's not good offensively, and meant to be a support pokemon.

[@onetallpheeesh]

I only wish Onix had the STATS to match its terrifying appearance. 😩

[@angelicwarrior118]

Or at least a base stat total of 425 with decent attack.

[@onetallpheeesh]

@@angelicwarrior118 too much to ask for apparently lol

[@angelicwarrior118]

@@onetallpheeesh they buffed Masquerain’s BST by 40 points not long ago.

[@joshuawidener8407]

At least it gets EQ. Beedrill Is just bad

[@jaythecollector4]

Agreed 100%

[@Parleetxt]

Sunflora isn’t actually that bad. You looked at the important trainer‘s types and checked which type did. worst against them. Grass isn’t a good type in the EARLY stages of johto. That’s also why chikorita seems like a weak Pokemon. So Falkner and Bugsy. And the other two weaknesses of grass in Johto are Pryce and Koga. And a strong Grass type is the best thing to use against Pryce actually. All of his Pokémon are weak to ice and you can’t even get sunkern or sunflora before the second gym, so it’s not even comparable to these. Same thing with Ferroseed and Ferrothorn. It just has a Fire and a Fighting weakness. There is no Strong fire Trainer by the time you get frerroseed, so it’s only weakness is marshall. It’s actually quite useful by the time you get it. You can get it after the 5. gym, evolve it quite quickly and it’s useful against Brycen, the Dragon Gym Leaders and against the Water Gym Leader in B2W2 as well. It’s not always about offenses and a bit more research there would’ve been nice

[@iantaakalla8180]

That is true. Pryce is not a gym leader, given he will never be difficult to anyone barring a bad rock or steel Pokémon in Johto. Heck, before his redesign he was literally a weak man.

[@underbandit2372]

Plus Gen 2 has a lot worse mons like Delibird and Unown, both having horrible stats and one having a single move

[@nevenpatrk9661]

Also, you get Sunkern AFTER you have beaten Falkner and Bugsy so it is impossible to have it for those first two fights unless you traded it.

[@ultlifeform]

It's not JUST the early stages of Johto. Morty may "officially" be a Ghost specialist, but all of his Pokemon are also Poison type, meaning they resist Grass and may have attacks Grass is weak to (I don't remember if they actually do or not), Jasmine's Magnemites resist Grass, and Dragon also resists Grass, meaning you struggle against both Claire and doubly Lance, who's entire team is also Flying. The Elite Four is trouble as well, with nearly every Pokemon outside of Bruno's team resisting Grass and firing back with their own super effective damage. Making it worse is the atrocious move pool, unless you get lucky with Hidden Power, Sunflora can ONLY learn Grass and Normal attacks in GSC, with only Sludge Bomb being added in HGSS. You have a good matchup against Chuck's Poliwrath, Will's Slowbro, and Bruno's Onix and that's basically it until you get to Kanto (which is a joke of a post game anyway, with how low level all the gym leaders are). So yeah... three good matchups, and basically everything else is "Bad News Sunflora."

[@PragMagik]

Honestly design is definitely ok to include as a factor in this. If I don't like looking at a Pokemon AND it is hard to use, that's the WORST.

[@alysshart7522]

For Gen 2, I was certain he was going to pick Delibird. I’m very surprised that he chose Perserker, of all things, from Gen 8. I used a Perserker on a playthrough team, and it was awesome!

[@chandazure5929]

I legit have no idea what he's on about, Perrserker was my MVP in that team and I used OP Pokemon like Cinderace.

[@matthewkuscienko4616]

Now that somebody brought it up, I have to agree that Delibird HAS to be the worst; it has basically nothing going for it: it's stats are all quite bad, it's typing isn't too good defensively because it's an ice type, and unless you teach it TM moves, it only has present to work with, and this is all before you take into consideration how late you encounter it and how much trouble it can be to catch because of how often it runs away when you find one

[@varuhash50]

Perrserker was a terrible pick. Honestly all of the Gen 8 Pokemon are pretty good in more ways than one, but Mons like Boltund and Thievul are much worse than Perrserker is even if it tried. In Gen 7 hearing him say Crabominable sounds almost biased because almost no one likes it. The thing with it is that its ACTUALLY KINDA GOOD!! Ice-Fighting is an amazing offensive type, with Ice covering most of Fightings weaknesses and Fighting dealing with Steel types that would normally wall you. Yeah it evolves at a bad time but maybe later on itll evolve via Ice Stone like Glaceon. Instead of Crabominable id say Pyukumuku is sadly the worst for Gen 7. No attacking moves aside from Counter and Mirror Coat from breeding and only status moves otherwise. Yes, Innards Out, its pure Water typing, and Toxic are good for it and im happy it kept Toxic from the generation shift from 7 to 8. But it cant attack at all, making it a sitting duck against NPCs that rarely know what theyre even doing half the time.

[@chandazure5929]

@@varuhash50 Crabominable is reasonable because don't you only get it once you reach Victory Road where it can evolve? As for Gen 8, it's probably something like Pincurchin. Slow, meager offense and defense for something you get by Gym 7.

[@varuhash50]

@@chandazure5929 we also need to consider movepool. Thievul and Boltund struggle with that despite having decent stats and abilities. Crabominable as an Ice-Fighting type gets a lot of coverage due to that type combination. Perrserker has a pretty good movepool once TMs are added to the picture but of course its not quite the best. And yes, Crabominable is gotten very late in the game. If its gotten so late, why is it even valid in this list? You literally CANT get it before Victory Road, so youll never be using it except for the Elite 4. Id say Pyukumuku makes more sense purely because youll have it for a while and youre stuck with a mediocre Pokemon that cant evolve and can barely hurt anything, especially not Poison types without being bred to have Mirror Coat

[@enzomachado5830]

dude my ferrothorn WRECKED skyla, brycen, drayden, the e4 plus cynthia and white tree. it's absulutely broken in game. just give ferroseed a exp share and train a lot, you'll get ferrothorn in no time. leech seed, curse, gyro ball and protect can destroy teams.

[@Ri_Shin_Marco]

And you could use toxin as well as rest. there are so many possibilities for your loadout it's crazy. And if you are the typical pkm player who doesn't like non attacking moves just use: gyro ball, payback, seed bomb and sword dance if you want to.

[@butteredsalmonella]

Protip for Ferrothorn: If you are willing to go through the extra mile, Ferroseed is capable of breeding with Whimsicott who is able to learn Leech Seed, who in turn, passes Leech Seed to Ferroseed as an egg move. Ferrothorn with Leech Seed is an absolute godsend.

[@thsand5032]

The ferrothorn part makes no sense : - "Its BST is only 489" that's super high, watchog has like 420 and that total isn't held back by a super low speed stat. - "You'll be using ferroseed until maybe the 6th gym" which is coincidentally exactly when you can catch one. When you catch a ferroseed, it is in general ~10 levels away from evolving. - The three weaknesses of steel include one that ferrothorn will never ever get to face (the 1st gym leader, wtf) and one that it's not really weak to (ground). You kind of forgot to mention that it has a good matchup into every single gym leader / e4 except for marhsal and N's reshiram, even completely shutting some of them down. Also, the weaknesses of the grass type that you mention are all compensated for by the steel type (except for the 1st gym leader) - "It's slow" - Yep, but that makes its gyro ball super deadly. For some reason, you ignored the amazing movepool of this pokemon : it gets a 120 power move at level 40, which is huge, learns both selfdestruct and explosion, has access to a super powerful gyro ball and a very solid iron head. Let's put that in perspective with liepard, who basically only learns dark and normal moves and whose best moves are night slash and maybe dark pulse but it doesn't get that until BW2. I'm also having trouble understanding the how and why, say, bastiodon, with actual resistances and things to do is worse than KRICKETUNE, who has no movepool and worse BST than MUNCHLAX, or how amaura is worse than diggersby, a pokemon whose main characteristic is NOT DOING DAMAGE (and unlike bastiodon, it's not tough). And finally, what was that about sword and shield. Perrserker ? I'm again having trouble understanding how a pokemon that hits like a truck and evolves super early (it's actually one of the strongest mid-game options you have) can be worse than Thievul, again, a pokemon that has the particularity of not doing damage and being super frail, or, say, eiscue ? Even though morpeko is also kinda bad, thievul is leagues ahead. Kind of like a Liepard that also can't deal damage. It looks like your research was limited to counting the amount of gyms the mon is weak to and looking at the BST. Most relevant factors, like actual typing, movepool, strengths and sometimes even the STATS were clearly not taken into account.

[@zebadicaagain9735]

Onix is literally the reason I got into Pokémon, I am shook

[@jonathanroche732]

His design is incredible. It's a shame that he has the same attack stat as Oddish.

[@wellofinfinity]

It’s sad man so sad

[@Ryodraco]

Alas, as much as I love its design as a pokemon its mostly a liability even for a casual playthrough. The thing just cannot do much damage and its defensive use is limited.

[@guineveress]

It really needs steelix to be viable for a playthrough tbh

[@iantaakalla8180]

When you viably use Onix at all in a playthrough. Without evolving it to Steelix.

[@philipkandinski5233]

So the ranking actually starts at 4:30 .. just to let you know :) no disrespect Hoops I clearly know that these explanations are quite necessary.. it is just very rare that an intro would be almost 5 minutes and I wanted to imply on that here haha.. cheers

[@aspiringwayfarer]

*seriously* !! I always skip ahead because I know the intro is gonna be at least 2-3 minutes with the rambling, repetition, and sponsor ad.

[@AstroooooX]

I remember raising a Hoppip (Lv4) in Pokémon Crystal back in the day, when I had no idea about the moves it'd learn throughout the process. Long story short, it was the worst experience I ever had trying to make progress in the game with a pokémon in my team. It simply didn't have anything to work with.

[@painpapadopoulos8120]

Jumpluff is literally the best pokemon to use in crystal.

[@brad6546]

Boy what Ferrothorn helped me out through so many tough battles in Gen V. It could tank SO many hits and could do like 3 sets of chip damage in 1 turn !

[@mtth6758]

Ferrothorn bad take. The gen 5 games are ridiculous good when it comes to balance, plenty of places to gain lots of xp and plenty of fights where ferroseed is viable in a fight. Fun to use and was great defensively and surprisingly good offensively in the team I used recently in my w2 playthrough. Samurott, Ferrothorn, Magnezone, Gliscor, Volcarona and Flygon. I breezed through the game with this team.

[@chukavalentine5882]

That's an insane team dude

[@benjystrauss2524]

I suggest you (and others) do a playthrough with many of these before ranking these. Ferrothorn's low base stat total is largely due to no special attack, which is irrelevant. Beautifly is also surprisingly decent for what it is. There aren't a lot of really bad Pokémon in Hoenn.

[@rirururu4697]

For real. I don't know what happened with this video. It comes off as someone just reading stats off serebii and trying to make a list without actually playing the game nor understanding how move pools, type combinations, and abilities work. Contrary to what this video claims, being the first three stage fully evolved mon you access is a good thing for main game. Beautifly and the other cocoon Pokemon absolutely carry early game with its stats that are way ahead of everyone else in your party and its powder moves to help you catch other Pokemon. He can't just look at bug and flying typing individually and call it a day.

[@SuperGoji1993]

I used a crabominable in my moon playthrough. He actually was very clutch for me several times in the elite four with its ridiculously good attack stat.

[@k2basior]

You know most of Ferrothorn type weaknessess are covering each other? In the end it's only weak to fire and Fighting so 1.5 character (as you don't always fight Chill. I believe Amoongus or Sawsbuck (especially in B2W2 is in a worse position). Or Leavanny

[@TunaBear64]

And well Chili is the FIRST leader, and if you face Chili, well you must have an Snivy then.

[@vish5942]

amoongus is definitely not even close to the worst it can take on pokemon that it's weak to especially if you get a regenerator foongus from hidden grottos in b2w2 but effect spore can wreak havoc too leavanny or watchog is the worst close call

[@justinwiebe8327]

We’re literally forgetting about Watchog and Garbodor. They are both trash.

[@skanaraki2161]

I definitely agree that Ferrothorn is a fantastic pokemon but Leavanny is pretty good as well.

[@k2basior]

@@skanaraki2161 what about Sawsbuck? All Grass weaknessess + Fighting. And we have a Ice,Bug, Flying, Fire/Poison Type Specialists and Ghost which are immune to Normal types

[@LiamFromNewBarkTown]

Ferrothorn with Iron Barbs and Rocky Helmet is absolutely insane for in game. Don't know if you've ever used one if you're ranking it that low tbh

[@worldsboss]

Unown exists and you’re actually arguing for Sunflora? Alright then.

[@Kostyurik]

Unown at least can attack by itself. Wobbuffet however can only Counter/Mirror coat. Similar thing with Pyukumuku in Alola - I bet it would be worse than a Crabominable, because it has like no attacking moves. Also I think Illumise, Volbeat, Luvdisk and Spinda on practice are worse than Beautifly, Chatot on practice is worse than Bastiodon, and Carbink on practice is worse than Aurorus. Hoops REALLY overlooked weak single stage pokemon and listed decently powerful fully-evolved pokemon with debatably unfortunate typings.

[@justinwiebe8327]

We’re also forgetting about Watchog, Garbodor, Gen 2 sneasel, pachirisu, thievul, and golbat

[@novaburst2982]

I can agree with most of these picks EXCEPT for Ferrothorn, cause seriously whaaaa? So you get Ferroseed in Chargestone Cave after the 5th gym. Right after it'll go neutral against Skyla since it's steel type covers it's flying weakness. In Black and White it's steel typing also covers it's Ice weakness as well. As for the dragon gym it'll resist dragon types, and Marlon's gym in the sequels it resists water as well. When it comes to the Elite 4 it resists 3 of their members, Dark, Ghost and Psychic, and is only weak to Marshall. While in Black and White, N and Ghetsis' type diverse team does mean it won't be AS useful, in Black and White 2 it's great against Iris as it resists the dragon type. I really don't understand why Ferrothorn is Unova's worst Pokemon for a playthrough, seems a bit silly to be honest since for the same reason you said for the Ice types in Hoenn, Ferroseed comes after the halfway point in the game anyways but you talk about it as if you were starting out with Ferroseed since the begging, at which case, why not with the Ice Types in Hoenn too?

[@Amelia4111]

*WE DON'T USE THE WORD ITS AS A PRONOUN IF THERE'S AN APOSTROPHE IN IT! REMOVE THE APOSTROPHE RIGHT NOW!*

[@hondaaccord1399]

Me, through tears: *B-But my Crabominable solo'd Kahili! 🥺*

[@brandondiotte2104]

Would argue and say Unown is the worst to use in the second gen since they have the shallowest move pool, terrible stats, are mostly a gimmick Pokémon, and the increased number of gyms and trainers using Pokémon with dark, bug, or ghost type moves.

[@iantaakalla8180]

The next most obvious is Delibird.

[@babulbi]

The hell are you smoking about Ferrothorn? You really should double check your information while writing a video.

[@Pikatwig16]

I used Bastiodon and Crabominable in my personal runs and I like them both. They were both great.

[@MyWillBeDone]

First time I used Bastiodon was in Arceus. Been my defensive homie ever since

[@cmrobles]

You’ve got to include abilities into your judgements. Tough claws with perserker makes a SWSH playthrough a joke. It is BUSTED.

[@MoonMoon-cl4co]

I love Beedrill! I really do! I had one in Let’s go and she had my whole heart! But she can’t fight to save her life- I kept her on the team as she was my Follow Pokémon and I just couldn’t replace her! But yeah she sucker at battling- Still love her though!

[@HimothyHimsworthy]

Couldn’t you just mega evolve it?

[@MoonMoon-cl4co]

@@HimothyHimsworthy I did! but you could only use mega evolution in the post game so for the most part I only had normal Beedrill without the mega.

[@bagon_the_bacon]

Can someone tell me where does that Steven and Cynthia animation is from the beginning I am curious

[@MightyRyan1337]

I really liked Crabrawler's design, I can't believe they messed up his evolution so bad

[@angelicwarrior118]

I don’t think they messed it up at all. I remembered seeing it and seeing it being confirmed to be Ice and that made me happy.

[@queenpen1398]

I was soo mad when I evolve and saw it ugly design...first time I ever regret evolve a pokemon

[@kdeluxe74]

Beautifly is great against Brawly as it provides a 4x resistance and can hit his pokemon with super effective damage. Especially in a nuzlocke Beautifly guarantees you an easy win in the second gym in Hoenn without risking any other team mates. It has a rough time in 5 gyms in total, but if one plays sapphire it's grass moves and later silver wind are of great use against team aqua's dark and water types + it walls fighting, grass, buy and ground types throughout the whole game (not that there are many but still). Giga&Mega Drain per lvl up cannot be too bad in the #too much water games. Beautifly even helps against elite 4 member Sidney. In contrast Spinda got nothing going for it, there is no favorable match up for that guy. Thus, I'd also regard the panda to be worse than the butterfly. Another one is Luvdisc that I think is worse than Beautifly. By the time you can get your hands on it the only favorable important fights are the gym leader twins and team magma grunts and in case you teach it ice beam the dragon types. As Spinda is obtainable earlier I think it even provides more value over the whole run than Luvdisc, as both got bad base stat totals but Spinda has at least some time until its opponents are much stronger.

[@WolfWarrior623]

my emerald nuzlocke has made me appreciate Beautifly so much more. I lost my first wurmple before it could ever evolve, but I later caught a silcoon, so for a lil bit it only knew Harden. but even without that, it's been my ride or die tank. Both times that I've almost lost the run, it came down to my starter, and my beautifly cuz that butterfly is a goddamn tank, even moreso when I manage to max defense. I don't know what RNGesus did to this thing but I love him. His defense isn't even his best stat, nor does he have a nature that boosts it. My buddy is just out here tanking like a boss.

[@rirururu4697]

Agreed. Contrary to what this video claims, being the first three stage fully evolved mon you access is a good thing for main game. Beautifly and the other cocoon Pokemon absolutely carry early game with its stats that are way ahead of everyone else in your party and its powder moves to help you catch other Pokemon. He can't just look at bug and flying typing individually and call it a day.

[@_guillermo]

Justice for Ferrothorn🙌

[@gepanzerterpenner1204]

I really like to go into new Pokemon games without any spoilers, so its really disappointing to get stuff spoiled in videos where you really dont expect it like at 1:33. Its no huge deal just kind of a bummer :(

[@wooptyfrickendoo6203]

Ferrothorn is one of the best playthrough mons lmao. It only has 2 weaknesses not 4, it has a ton of resistances, it's insanely bulky, and it actually hits decently hard on the physical side.

[@docseamonster3491]

My dude you're supposed to use curse and gyro ball with Ferrothorn. Max out it's defense to tank, minimize it's speed, then it can obliterate basically anything. Now I know what you're gonna say. "You can't just sit there and buff and turtle and do nothing else." Ferrothorn has iron barbs, so physical attacks will do negligible damage to it and the attacker will take some pain each turn.

[@sorepluto4329]

I didn’t even knew crabraller evolved during my first play-through of Sun. I just wanted to use it cause from the moment I saw the boxer Crab I loved it. It didn’t level up during the climb to the league so I had no clue Crabamiatable even existed until the Hala fight.

[@joshberg307]

I disagree with the perrserker pick, I used it and it helped me out so much. I used rillaboom, orbeetle, dracovish, coalossal, perrserker and grapploct. And hands down coalossal, perrserker and rillaboom put in the most work. (Edit) and this team was really great

[@iug1925]

Woah I used Rillaboom Perrserker and Grapploct too ! We shared half our teams (The other ones were Corviknight Boltund and Toxtricity but now my team is completely different)

[@joshberg307]

@@iug1925 I used corviknight and toxtricity on a different team too. That team was inteleon, corviknight, dubwool, grimsnarl, toxtricity and dragapult

[@nickdentoom1173]

Yeah... i literally do not understand Perrserker either. I mean... it literally only has 2 weaknesses during the gym run (It being Fire and Fighting), while being strong against Rock/Ice and Fairy.

[@josephzaarour6649]

Wtf! Ferrothorn is overpowered! You can not say that leavanny or sawsbuck are better!

[@srarts123]

I feel like there is more to if something is good or bad than type weaknesses. Like for ferroseed you don't get it until after clay anyway so it is already gonna be close enough to evolving. Also it inherently puts normal types higher because of only being weak to fighting, but dunsparce for example has a terrible stat total with its entire mobeset effectively being rollout headbutt glare. A lot of what is overlooked is when you get the pokemon and their learn set

[@randomedgygamer2191]

I will never understand the hate for Crabominable. I like it Bastiodon should get Body Press.

[@skanaraki2161]

Its always looked fine to me, so I never really got the hate as well. Also, there's nothing wrong with Delphox.

[@randomedgygamer2191]

@@skanaraki2161 Delhpox is ok,Braixen looks better

[@nickdentoom1173]

People only hate it because its ugly and as such never use it... I never judge a Pokemon based on looks (Bruxish is one of my Alola faves) and actually want to use them at some point (Like people overlook Greedent as well... but its literally a smaller version of Snorlax).

[@basuki_panda16]

I used Crabominable in first Moon play though and enjoyed using it. Not sure why I used him but you know.

[@Hydman84]

I used perrserker on my sword team it actually did very well

[@kenzihenderson5258]

I used Morpeko and it did pretty well too, so Galar is just at a higher bar battle wise than other gens I guess when the lowest still perform all the way to the league.

[@namegoeshere5220]

Honestly I don't think either is the weakest of the Galar Pokemon. Cramorant has base stats worse than Perrserker; terrible stat distribution to the point it excels at nothing and is sort of just meh at everything; a standard movepool with nothing special beyond the standard affair; a gimmicky ability that is pretty much just a joke ability; and worst a quad weakness typing ensuring it can be one shotted. Quad weakness isn't everything, look at Toxtricity. But Toxtricity has so much more going for it. But if we're focusing on Perrserker vs Morpeko, I'm gonna say Perrserker is better. It has actually good abilities unlike Morpeko's joke gimmicky one. Tough Claws + Fake Out can be very damaging. In the clips he shows we see Perrserker use it on a Rock Type, and despite the resistance it still does at least standard damage. So use it on Pokemon that don't resist Normal and you'll get a darn good chunk of damage with the first move.

[@nickdentoom1173]

@@namegoeshere5220 Like the problem is that in terms of type specialists though... Perrserker is worse than Cramorant (Cramorant is only weak against Ice/Rock), while being strong against Rock, Fire, Grass and Fighting). Perrserker is weak to Fire and Fighting and only strong against Ice/Rock and Fairy. Now, the actual worse mon of Galar is imo Dubwool. It has nothing going for it.. except for its Defense and its movepool is shit as well.

[@iantaakalla8180]

As far as I know, the Applin line also underperforms as well. Applin has two bad evolutions, a supposed fast sweeper that can’t do that, and the least tankiest of a Pokémon that is not the gimmick Eldegoss who only exists as marketing material.

[@Ryano35]

You can literally get the sun stone as soon as you catch sunkern. Sunflora was a monster in my playthroughs, it's speed let it down it down at times so I cna understand where you are coming from.

[@valasafantastic1055]

Ferrothorn only has 2 weaknesses fighting and 4x fire! Ferrothorn is amazing, great moves very few weaknesses great stats. You also can totally have ferroseed for a while. I’ve main benched it I Unova and it was an asset! Ferrothorn shouldn’t be on this list! You can also play ferrothorn different ways and it is a great team player. It’s even better if you breed egg moves onto it.

[@venomgaming7014]

My man’s said the rock/water carracosta (which has double the weaknesses of ferrethorn) is *better.* want good physical stab moves with carracosta? Best you got for reliable accuracy is base 40 power aqua jet and base 50 power smack down. Want power in physical moves? 90% accurate rock slide and aqua tail. Want reliable stab moves with ferrothorn? Base 80 power iron head and seed bomb. Powerful physical stab stab moves? 100% accurate Iron head and 85% accurate power whip. AND DID I MENTION FERROTHORN GETS *100% ACCURATE BASE 250 POWER SELF DESTRUCT?* and ferrothorn is also *AMAZING* in trick room, while carracosta is worse in trick room since it’s faster than ferrothorn.

[@RibombeeTeacher]

I really don't like the ferrothorn take in gen 5, ferrothorn has an incredible typing, really good bulky stats and honestly it's attack stat isn't bad either. I would argue it's actually one of the best grass types to use in the gen. Gen 8 is a tough one to choose but Perrserker actually isn't bad thanks to it's typing and it's ability and it's main stat (attack) is really solid, not to mention the coverage it gets. I would definitely argue Morpeko is worse. I would make a case for Falinks too as despite it's signature move, it's stats are lacklustre and it's not as viable in a playthrough as it should be. I would also make a strong case for Pyukumuku in gen 7 and Wobbuffet in gen 2 since they lack offensive moves and their damage relies entirely on correctly predicting what the AI will do.

[@angelicwarrior118]

One can get a Falinks before the sixth gym, I wouldn’t really nominate it.

[@yobin3711]

You have to use Ferroseed until the 5th or 6th gym? You mean the gyms that come directly before and after the place you get it? Wow. How awful.

[@DemiIsNotHere]

Ferrothorn is resitant to three of the E 4 members, and counters ghetsis team. Has high stats, you get eviolite early so your ferroseed is even tankier. Its neutral to clay and byren, but hits back supereffective, resists iris and is neutral to skyla. That pick is just wrong, dont forget he has one of the abilities in the game and a good moveset. There are much worse pokemon

[@Captainluck12]

I love it when Pokémon fans hate a Pokémon because of a design not on how good it actually is , who cares what it looks like if it gets the job done

[@nickdentoom1173]

Yeah and its also funny people often oversell a Pokemon because its cool (Charizard, Greninja)... while fact is that most cool Pokemon are shit AF in their respective region (Greninja is literally in top 2 worst Kalos mons in a playthrough).

[@yannickvanhoutte4403]

Honestly, I used an underleveled Crabominable in Sun against the E4 flying member and it was an incredibly fun fight. They lead with a Skarmory that only sets up Spikes and such, which gave me time to set up with Power-up Punch for a near-perfect sweep. It's a shame that Alola has quite a few finnicky late-game evolutions like Vikavolt and Crabominable like that, because I'd have loved to use more of them. The way things are, it's easier to just get to end game and then set up an (underleveled) team for the E4 if you wanna use these mons.

[@Go-OnR]

I was pretty surprised about gen 1. I know Onix has pretty bad stats, but was thinking that Farfetch'd, or 1 of the bug types would be the worst.

[@chrissy9997]

I thought Onix was a fairly uncontroversial pick at first. Then I remembered it gets bind which in gen 1 stopped the enemy Pokemon from attacking for the entire duration.

[@Go-OnR]

@@chrissy9997Just imagine. A giant rock snek with one of the most overpowered attacks I'd the generation. Beaten out by a butterfly, A not at all threatening wasp, and a five star meal.

[@ultlifeform]

For Unova, I would actually make a case for the worst Pokemon being Hydreigon. Or more realistically, Deino. In your case against Ferrothorn, you mention that it doesn't evolve from the low stat Ferroseed until level 40. But Deino has even worse stats than Ferroseed, and doesn't evolve until level 50, and won't evolve into Hydreigon until level 64, far later than you'll have beaten the game. It also has terrible accuracy until the final evolution, at which point it switches primary offensive stats, potentially screwing your build or forcing you to build your moveset against its stats until then. Admittedly, if you're factoring how late in the game it's available, you can't catch one until Victory Road, but my friends and I like to breed full teams at the start of our playthroughs, and Deino baited me hard in Unova, it was an absolute nightmare to use for the whole game. Every once in a while, one of my friends mentions it when planning a team, and I have to explain to them why it's such a horrendous trap. Definitely one of the worst Pokemon for a campaign run EVER.

[@garinluff5625]

This video feels like someone who knows very little about pokemon, trying to sound like they know a lot about pokemon

[@QuarantineV1]

Perrserker was always my leadoff Pokémon in Gen 8. You get super effective STAB against most of the fairy gym and both of the second set of version exclusive gyms, plus Meowth has payday as a level up move, so i just spent my runs spamming payday with the Amulet Coin. Good times.

[@magma41158]

That's absolutely crazy because using sunflora in gen 2 actually made me appreciate it more. I mean it's not everyday you see one tank a crti attack move from a kingdra

[@bvd_vlvd]

Yeah, it's leagues better than Delibird, Unown or Wobbuffet don't worry

[@superkamehameha1744]

Happy 10th Anniversary Hoops and Hip Hop!!! 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

[@anthonystrangio]

This seems like a fun challenge run

[@Sononono]

There's absolutely 0 way Ferrothorn is the worst in gen 5, it's objectively good against a lot of key battles, has decent recovery considering the ridiculous bulk it has to back it all up, good typing and strong moves with its decent attack stat, just don't let it stay on the field too much against Marshall and you've probably got one of the best mon to use, not just for competitive play.

[@justanoreo3928]

I though that they would pick unknown for jotho, at least sunflora can almost do something

[@PHiLLy2c]

Crabominbile is not bad at all ppl just hate it bcuz of its design

[@AnyThingWorx]

I’m sorry, WHAT? Sunflora is the worst in Gen 2? Why the hell isn’t it Jumplutf? A Pokémon with even WORSE stats and a horrible movepool. That was an absolutely horrible pick. Also, you can evolve Sunkern INSTANTLY in GSC and HGSS. I’m sorry, but you had zero clue what you were talking about there, especially when other Pokémon such as Unown exists

[@banaan13games56]

Yea execkly

[@Rachaelorly]

"when it comes to Hoenn we have a yet another predictable pick" me: I wonder who it could be? *beautifly* me: *uses beautifly nearly every playthough* excuse me????

[@carlernestamapan9327]

Video starts: 4:31

[@SweetLavender680]

Sunflora is actually not bad i saw a nuzlocke where they banned half the pokedex and sunflora was pretty good and sunflora also had the second highest special attack up until gen four a pokemon that foes is really bad in gen two is ledian it is special defense onix basically

[@SweetLavender680]

Bruh i have seen you select other people

[@SweetLavender680]

You are just a bot

[@ultlifeform]

I don't know where you heard this, but Sunflora never had the second highest Special Attack stat. It's Special attack is only 105, which puts it in a four way tie for the 21st highest special attack in gen 2, and it went down fast after that. edit: It does have the second highest special attack when ONLY looking at Grass types, since Exeggutor beats it with 125. But that's ONLY in gen 2, since gen 3 adds Cacturne, with 115, and Sceptile joins the tie at 105.

[@SweetLavender680]

@@ultlifeform you are right i messed up the comment i already knew that it was only about grass types but forgot to say that and i guess i didn't listen correctly in the video but oh well thanks for correcting me

[@Captainluck12]

I used the hell out of crabominable and that thing was a complete tank so idk what your talking about

[@AkatsukiNoMe]

Good video, but your method is not quite accurate, I think... I'd tell: Gen 1: Hitmonchan. He has a bad typing, no good moves and is fragile. Onix certainly is bad, but he can learn Earthquake, Rock Slide and the annoying Bind. Gen 2: Sunflora is really bad, but maybe Ledian is worse. Gen 3: Beautifly maybe is the worse, but Delcatty is a good contender. Gen 4: Kricketune or Plant Cloak Wormadam. Bastiodon can resist a lot of types yet. Gen 5: The biggest video's mistake. Ferrothorn is one of the best in playthrough. Liepard should be the worse, but Watchog is also reasonable pick. Gen 6: I guess Aurorus may be the winner, but it has a nice base total too. Diggesrby seems pretty bad (it doesn't have Huge Power). Gen 7: I don't know, but a few Pokémon seems worse than Crabominable, like Oricorio and Gumshoos. Gen 8: Thievul is worse than Perrserker, for sure.

[@nickdentoom1173]

Diggersby has only 3 weaknesses though... now a certain Water/Dark Frog has more (Same amount as Aurorus in fact)

[@chrissy9997]

Gumshoos is pretty decent. 110 attack with strong jaw. Later on it gets an 120 power stab hyper fang and an 120 power crunch too. Even earlier on it's getting a 90 power bite. Oricorio is an odd one. Early game it's stats are actually pretty decent, but it's stuck with only flying type moves until level 40. By that point it's stats are just passable. Even then you're still stuck with two types depending on which form you have.

[@nickdentoom1173]

@@chrissy9997 Yeah... Oricorio is the gen 7 Furfrou (Also really good early on, but drops off after gym 3).

[@yoshibrothers9982]

Sunflora actually isn't all that bad in Johto. In the early stages of the game, sure, it isn't an ideal pick since Sunkern itself is very weak and Sunflora's is incredibly slow. However, it can be caught in the National Park after you've already faced Falkner and Buggsy, you can do the Bug Catching Contest to get the Sun Stone to evolve it immediately, and while its movepool isn't terribly interesting, it performs pretty well as a sun Pokemon thanks to its quite serviceable 105 Special Attack paired with Solar Beam. On top of that, Giga Drain is a pretty good move to run on it for recovery, especially in HGSS when you get to Kanto as you acquire Big Root. In HGSS it also gets decent coverage in Sludge Bomb since it becomes a special move.

[@DrTyranitar]

Agree on Onix, Sunflora, Beautifly, Bastiodon, Aurorus, and especially Crabominable. However, I disagree for Galar, I think Theivul, Greedent, or Eldegoss would be the worst, especially over Perrserker, who is honestly fairly decent, just not spectacular in any way. But what the hell was that Gen 5 pick? Ferrothorn is literally the best Pokemon you could possibly get in a nuzlocke, its typing and bulk let it flat out wall 90% of the game, and it hits pretty hard too. Sure it evolves kinda late, but Eviolite Ferroseed is still pretty solid until then. Ferrothorn only has one losing matchup in the entire game, that being Elite Four Marshall. Watchog, Liepard, Swoobat, or Beeheeyem would be my picks for the worst. Also maybe I missed it, but I assume gimmicks are not counted? Otherwise Ditto, Wobbuffet, and Pyukumuku would be worth mentions

[@AC34D]

I like how all of these were Pokémon I just instinctively knew not to use in the mainline games lol

[@vish5942]

oh no galarian meowth evolves all the way at level 28 that is around *checks notes* ... third gym your bias is showing

[@MarioPikachu626]

10:53 does it have to with its homophobia towards Slowbro and Exeggutor?

[@bendystraw772]

But that’s just like, your opinion, man

[@thebrickraptor4157]

Hey Hoops I love your videos and I watched your What if starters had different evolutions and I really enjoyed those, are you going To ever do them again?

[@kurigaru]

This is crabominable slander

[@charlotte7732]

I think there's far worse gen 5 mons than ferrothorn, alolamola is a pokemon I can see being worse because it has very low attack stats and no recovery moves through level up. There's also alot of gen 5 pokemon that evolve later than ferroseed like larvesta dieno, pawniard, vullaby

[@danielharris1825]

Says ferrothorn is the worst in the game with the three monkeys had me laughing my head off

[@BisharpsBlades99]

Bro the SNHU sponsorship caught me by complete surprise! I'm originally from Southern New Hampshire and a bunch of my old classmates went to or are at SNHU

[@slyph3rz630]

Yeah I can see why its your own option cuz at least 3 of what you picked are better than you actually are letting on bro But just cuz I dont agree doesn't mean I still dont like your vids and content cuz I do I love your content broski

[@bjmclennan]

There's no way Ferrothorn could possibly be the worst pokemon of gen 5. Its very very bulky, can wall a lot of physical threats with rocky helmet + iron barbs, and it has a decent offensive movepool to boot. Also as other people have said, it only has two weaknesses, not each of steel and grass.

[@kenzihenderson5258]

Honestly if morpeko and purrserker are bottom of the barrel that just shows Galar mons had a really strong showing in battle prowess.

[@Amelia4111]

THERE IS NO U IN PERRSERKER!

[@kenzihenderson5258]

@@Amelia4111 thank you grammar police I'll forget almost immediately lol

[@souleblade32790]

I'm going to pretend I didn't hear you say Beautifly is the worst Gen 3 Pokémon...

[@slyph3rz630]

I disagree with hoean beautifly is actually better than you think I always put it on my team when I play gen 3 games even remakes but everything else I do agree with so come on give beautifly some love even just a little bit hoops

[@DrumsAndGames]

None of this is meant to be combative with anything in the vid, it’s just my two cents. But I love crabrawler. I was really so-so about it when it was originally unveiled, but the first time one dropped out of a tree in Sun/Moon I fell in love with it. Easily one of my favorite mons from that first playthrough. Trekked him all the way up the mountain to evolve him into nightmare fuel snow crab. And I found a full odds shiny Morpeko in Sword while I was hunting for magnemite. Love him. Little guy hits like a truck.

[@OniramKenobi]

4:30 Video begins here

[@natemastaler7647]

I love these types of videos and I always watch them when you put them out 😊

[@viralmasquerade]

This is like the opposite of an imported cheese tier list where late availability is a point in its favor

[@abhinavsinha7530]

Stopped watching after Ferrothorn :). It is one of the best in gen5

[@iantaakalla8180]

Agreed. Excluding Amaura (a Pokémon agreed to suck as no one commented about it), apparently the rest after Gen 4 are better than he gives them credit for, with the Ferroseed line performing far better than stats suggest. Heck, some people suggest Sunflora is not the absolute worst, and Beautifly at least exists solely for Brawly. Though that means every deserving worst of the picks were Rock types, proving Rock types should not exist after Generation 1 except for the Stealth Rock move, Accelerock, Rock Slide, and Power Gem.