How I Use Starnet++ and PixInsight Together

[@mamessner]

It's so sad that 99.9% of the public will never know the amount of artistry and technical skill that goes into something like this. Bravo. Learned a lot.

[@enteringintospace4685]

We can always strive to enlighten. Thanks for the positive feedback!

[@chridignan9178]

Jaw-dropping image! High on finesse and advice. Congrats and thank you.

[@enteringintospace4685]

Thanks so much!!

[@MaxSidorov]

My favorite tutorial! No needless mumbo jumbo. Everything is up to the point and covers all the steps that I need. Very helpful. Thank you. (trying to switch from PS to PI)

[@enteringintospace4685]

Hey! Appreciate the positive feedback....thanks and good luck!

[@jcinaz]

I really like the way you are describing your process. You're doing some magic on this.

[@enteringintospace4685]

Thanks John!

[@kenkoskela3357]

I've said it before, but your videos are excellent. This one is perhaps the most helpful PixInsight video I've run across so far. Keep 'em coming! And thanks!

[@brianastrodoc2886]

Love your use of color masks, I’ll be incorporating it into my workflow. Fantastic result!

[@enteringintospace4685]

Very cool! Yeah ive found adjusting the cyan works best ahead of the green and pulling out the stars allows me to be more aggressive!

[@mar504]

Super! This is exactly the kind of PI videos I love to see, just real world processing, really helps see how the tools affect the image at each step. My own workflow is pretty similar, but you've taught me some clever tricks that I definitely plan to use in the future. Thanks for taking the time to create these and share them freely, it's a huge service to those learning PI!

[@enteringintospace4685]

Wow!! Appreciate that! Whether its imaging or processing i just record the exact way im doing it at that time. I definitely have so much more to learn in both aspects and will continue share my experience for sure. Thanks for watching!!

[@ClearAmbientSkies]

Wow man, excellent! Everyone of your videos inspire me to get out there and image.

[@enteringintospace4685]

Hey!! Very cool....now get out there dang it! 😉 Clear skies and thanks for watching!

[@ClearAmbientSkies]

I will as soon as the clouds clear out tonight after midnight. I'm in SE Texas, we just had a major rainfall the last two days. I'm working on a 60+ hour capture of Orion. Clear Skies my friend!

[@enteringintospace4685]

@@ClearAmbientSkies wow....60 hrs on orion is super impressive! Good luck!!

[@ClearAmbientSkies]

@@enteringintospace4685 The first 8 hours: www.astrobin.com/irou56/

[@ianward9463]

Just spent an enjoyable afternoon using your workflow on an image I took a few nights ago - fantastic.

[@enteringintospace4685]

Very cool!! What was your target?

[@ianward9463]

@@enteringintospace4685 Flaming Star Nebula

[@centenojoel]

Thanks for sharing. I'm currently stuck with my bubble nebula SHO workflow but I'm will follow your tutorial, great techniques shown here. And you are right, some parts of the video sound like a Bob Ross class...I love it!

[@enteringintospace4685]

Lol....thanks!! Let paint in a happy little bubble and beat the dickens out of that noise😉 Good luck and let me know how it turns out!

[@centenojoel]

@@enteringintospace4685 I followed every step and oh man, the picture came out great! Thanks so much!

[@enteringintospace4685]

@@centenojoel that's awesome!!

[@gomanastro]

one of the best processing videos i'v seen, ...great results. Even though i'm shooting one shot color, lots of good tips in here.

[@enteringintospace4685]

Hey thanks for taking the time to drop a prop 😊 Look for me on the astro imaging channel March 28 at 9:30. Ill be doing a live processing demonstration!

[@CAPAstro]

Great vid Steve! I learnt a good cropping tip a while ago where you define your crop on the active image as you did, then drag the triangle to each of the other images, then finally click the green check to crop the active image. Works a treat!

[@enteringintospace4685]

Thanks!! Yeah the reason I pull the instance off is because there have times in the past when I have accidentally deleted let the green data. Since I have that little crop instance all I have to do is reload the original green and crop it just like the rest.

[@TheMje1963]

Wow, Just F"ing Wow, This has to be one of the best videos I've come across. I sure learned a lot. Now if I can just get rid of a couple of halo's completely. Have reduced them. I love your teaching style, Not too fast and I am able to keep up while watching and processing my NB image of SH2-115

[@enteringintospace4685]

Hey thanks so much!! Thats what I like to hear "able to follow along" When I started learning I would yell out "slow down"🤣

[@mattreavis2932]

Randomly found this today. OH MY GOD. Amazing. Going to have to try this technique.

[@enteringintospace4685]

Very cool! Thanks for watching!

[@JohnMcGFrance]

Great tutorial. Thank you. Hoping to image this target with NB on my Hyperstar setup if I get a couple of clear nights in the next week, but I’ll be trying your ideas on a Rosette Nebula I’ve already shot in SHO.

[@enteringintospace4685]

Thanks!! Hey let me know how it turns out for you! Also ill be doing a live demo of this process the 28th of this month on the astro imaging channel at 9:30. Check it out!!

[@JohnMcGFrance]

@@enteringintospace4685 Just used your tutorial to process The Rosette Nebula. Worked beautifully. So pleased. Thank you once again. I’ll try to catch the Astro imaging presentation. I’m in France so not sure if the live stream will be possible but I’ll check out the replay if it’s not. Looking forward to using your method on future projects. Clear skies.

[@enteringintospace4685]

@@JohnMcGFrance Very cool....and thanks for letting me know👊

[@rickdaniell718]

Great video! Thank you! I'm going to give your technique a try today with an older data set of mine! Thanks so much for putting this together!

[@enteringintospace4685]

Right on!! There's nothing more exciting than learning new ways to bring out old data. Good luck!!

[@georgekimball9517]

Thank you for your help with this excellent video. Very informative, useful and well presented.

[@enteringintospace4685]

Hey!! Appreciate that!

[@ManishFrenchStudio]

Wow superb video my dear, you have beautiful channel, i like very much and press the red button, keep uploading more and more videos. stay connected :)153

[@enteringintospace4685]

Thanks so much!

[@SimPitTech]

super awesome video. thanks for all the work and effort that went into it :)

[@enteringintospace4685]

My pleasure and thanks!!!

[@ClausTuxen]

What background music is that, its beautiful....

[@enteringintospace4685]

I'll have to see what song I pulled off artlist. 😊

[@chitownxring1444]

Steve, great video and many thanks for taking the time to make it.. I am having an issue after running convolution I then clone my Ha data twice and make the stretched mask following the video step by step but when I run the LRGB Combination the end results in a really bad over saturated image. I played with the Lightness and Saturation sliders with no success. Can you shed any light as to what you think is happening?

[@enteringintospace4685]

Hmmm....how much are you stretching the ha luminance layer before applying?

[@chitownxring1444]

@@enteringintospace4685 Thanks for the quick reply.. I was using my Ha that I Cropped then ran DBE and then stretched as usual before color combining. So the stretch is pretty well maxed. Should I be using the master Ha image right after stacking? Or?

[@Ed-yj8ts]

Righteous tutorial. When working the several color masks, do you delete the previous mask before dragging say the yellow mask to your target? Or does it automatically replace the foremer mask? Keep it going man.

[@enteringintospace4685]

Thanks! No need to remove the first mask, when you drag the next mask over it replaces the one that's there. Good luck!!

[@Ed-yj8ts]

@@enteringintospace4685 Thanks. Also ... on the monitor behind you outdoors, is that a graphic of a hand giving the Trudeau Salute?

[@enteringintospace4685]

@@Ed-yj8ts lol....my girlfriend gave me a pack of naughty stickers. So thats not a specific Fyou sticker it's more of a general equal opportunity Fyou.🤣

[@astronomynotebook]

This is a much appreciated tutorial 😊👍🏼

[@enteringintospace4685]

Hey appreciate that! Definitely working on more!

[@radod6147]

man, man, man just fantastic tutorial, well done

[@enteringintospace4685]

Right on! Appreciate it..

[@jameswebb8162]

Sweet video dude! New to telescopes and Astrophotography. Started utilizing pixinsight free trial. Pretty wild how how you can manipulate data to achieve a pretty awesome photo. Now ur stacker data is generated after you collect every right? I have only used the practice data offered by pixinsight.

[@enteringintospace4685]

Thanks!! Welcome to the cool club😉 Yes you want to shoot lights darks flat and bias frames then run them a program called deep sky Stacker or the wbpp script in Pixinsight. Both work well.

[@thegamersguide1]

Hi, Steve! Been watching for a while, great tips and awesome insight from experience. Just jumping into PI and I have a question - for the dynamic background extraction why did you choose divide? I always see people use subtract with no explanation.

[@enteringintospace4685]

Hey Thanks!! So if your master image has a continuous gradient from one direction the the other that typically is and additive gradient you would see from the moon or lp. In the case you would want to "subtract" the unwanted signal. In the other case of a multiplicative gradient ie vignetting due to the image train or over correcting flats you would want to use division to correct the bg. This is typically my issue.

[@CaptainCaveman60]

Nice tutorial! I learned so much!! You just stepped up my game. btw, u can align in DSS using reference frames but saw where u no longer use it. clear skies!

[@enteringintospace4685]

Great to hear! Yeah I was struggling for a bit on where the calibration frames should go in dss so I was doing them 1 set at a time. I'm much happier with the new wbpp. Thanks for the feed back!

[@MyImageEdit]

Mind boggling fascinating :O i so wish i had the time to learn this software but i rarely get time to process anything of late so APP and PS is my quickest system for a pretty good result but i do like the idea of PI even if its beyond my ability. Great vid as always Steve, inspiring as is all your content. Cheers, Lee.

[@enteringintospace4685]

Thanks Lee!! Hey maybe some time you could send me some osc data to process, so I could do a video on that work flow

[@MyImageEdit]

@@enteringintospace4685 I will be more then glad too :) be nice to see what my data can produce in your hands ;) ill get some sorted and be in touch matey :D

[@enteringintospace4685]

@@MyImageEdit sounds great! That will be fun to collaborate!

[@richardhendrick5835]

Richard - Belgium - It seems you didn't do any color synchronization (LinearFit) ... this didn't affect your image then...?

[@enteringintospace4685]

No sir....with narrowband imaging i never color calibrate like I would rgb data. Do you?

[@richardhendrick5835]

@@enteringintospace4685 as a beginner in astro photography, I saw that some guys do it. Then I tend to calibrate. It helped me in processing some of my image. But the main thing I believe is to have good data..:-)...

[@enteringintospace4685]

@@richardhendrick5835 agreed! I'm in a bortle 7 so my lrgb data suffers from lp gradient where as the narrowband images does not and dbe takes care of any funky colors the nb data set may have.

[@kitward3632]

You're really proficient with PI - I'd definitely recommend bringing your stacking into PI as well instead of DSS. If you dither during image capture too and also run drizzle integration it gets even better still :-)

[@enteringintospace4685]

Thanks! Yes....ive definitely moved to wbpp and love the results. No more dss...

[@kitward3632]

@@enteringintospace4685 Phew ! If you get the chance look at drizzle integration too, it will max out the resolution you can get, I love it !

[@enteringintospace4685]

@@kitward3632 agreed and I use it when I'm using my 80mm. Now with the rc I'm so oversampled I'm not drizzling. What's your thoughts?

[@Infinity_Focus]

Hei Steve, great video. Have been playing around with some of you techniques lately. I was wondering if I could also apply RGB stars to the image instead of the extracted narrowband stars. What about other targets like the Veil nebula where color is locally limited. The convolution of the starless color image might smear out some of the color details. What do you think? Have you done the Veil yourself? Thanks a lot!

[@enteringintospace4685]

Hey super sorry for the late response, KZbin notifications stink! I'll respond better later today. Thanks!

[@Infinity_Focus]

No worries@@enteringintospace4685 ;) I have a YT channel myself and sometimes I just don't get notified.

[@ahmedfalih473]

What a great tutorial!! What telescope did you use in this video? Thank you

[@enteringintospace4685]

Thanks!! I shot this with my 80mm Meade apo triplet.

[@reidchandler6486]

If stacking in DSS, right click a good frame, use as reference. Note that reference frame and when proceesing the next batch, Ha or Sii, or Oiii throw that one frame in when registering, use that frame as reference, but uncheck it when stacking the new filter data. Should work beautifully. ;)

[@caroliensche13]

interesting color processing! I have to test out some of this, maybe i underestimated the color mask script!

[@enteringintospace4685]

It's definitely powerful. I've also modified things a bit to use scnr to remove like 25% of the green before apply color masks. It really helps to separate the colors especially when the ha is super dominant

[@caroliensche13]

@@enteringintospace4685 i always struggle with color mask, having the impression it's not masking the colors i want.

[@enteringintospace4685]

@@caroliensche13 what are the masks looking like when you generate them? Dumb question but you stretched right?

[@caroliensche13]

@@enteringintospace4685 yes, i did. Most of the time i tried to use color mask was, when i either had some colors i tried to get rid off (e.g. colorful artifacts from improper star removal in one NB channel), or if i killed too much color information when using SCNR unmasked. But i was never satisfied with the choice of the masked pixels. Some hues i tried to include weren't. Also, darker or less saturated tones were difficult or impossible. I tried chrominance/lightness/linear masks, and tweaking the hues by using the slider (which is a pain for me, i'd like to have a colored bar or a color preview for this). Maybe, some more sophisticated two-dimensional color space would have worked better.

[@caroliensche13]

i have to mention, i never blurred the color channels anywhere as far as you do. That's a point i should try, maybe using this technique it works much better.

[@balapbahornet]

ficou perfeito vou fazer todos os passos aqui adorei o resultado.

[@bobsastrophotography7812]

Thanks for sharing. Very grateful for the instruction & all the detail you put into your images. You have a Patreon Page?

[@enteringintospace4685]

Hey thanks! You know I don't but it is something I've been looking into. Any suggestions on special content?

[@bryanthomas5019]

Such a great video!

[@enteringintospace4685]

Thanks!

[@goldfish31ful]

Open PixInsight and create a project file with all the tools you most commonly use in your workflow. That way you don't have to go find all the tools when you come to use them. Then the first thing you do when you open PixInsight is Load Project file and all your tools will already be ready for you to use. NVM I see you already did

[@insalatacosmica]

the best workflow i have ever seen , drop it like its hot xD thank you

[@enteringintospace4685]

Hey! Appreciate that👊

[@kkangkhk]

It's awsome and very helpful. Thank you so much

[@enteringintospace4685]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@fleejay806]

Wow that is amazing!

[@jscerb1290]

I have the stand-alone version of Starnet++ and I can not get it to run! "The application was unable to start correctly (0xc0000142) I have an Intel G6400 CPU Any help would be appreciated

[@enteringintospace4685]

Not sure I've seen that error. Have you saved your image as a tiff?

[@jscerb1290]

@@enteringintospace4685 My CPU does not support this program ( Does not contain AVX Instructions )

[@aapablaz]

Hi! great video......can you share you computer specs? it works really fast....thanks

[@timokarttinen3935]

Great tutorial, thanks!

[@janettebritton5800]

Great video thank you 😊

[@texassharkfishing5930]

HEY WHATS YOUR WEB SITE ADDRESS?

[@enteringintospace4685]

Hey sorry for late reply! Actually my web page was hacked...ugh. Ill make an announcement when i get it all sorted out. Thanks

[@VittorioSergi]

Look man, I'm just sayin' that a Bob Ross in astrophotography role might be the thing you know, dealing with happy little nebulas

[@enteringintospace4685]

Yeah minus the fro I might be able to pull it off. Lol

[@balapbahornet]

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