How I use the Morningstar MC6 with my Pedalboard

[@AREA51ASYAN]

Can you explain you’re midi signal chain please? It start MIDI out from mc6 to MIDI in into a Strymon and MIDI out from that Strymon to MIDI in into the other Strymon and finally out from the 2nd Strymon to MIDI in ml5?? Thank you

[@chrisjeemusic]

yep, you got it!

[@armymankr]

Did you ever figure out how to fix the switch B going to V2 instead of V1 issue? I recently picked up my MC6 MKII and seem to have the exact same issue while trying to program it!

[@chrisjeemusic]

Unfortunately I have not figured it out..it’s been awhile since i’ve used the mc6 at this point - maybe i’ll figure it out again at some point.

[@cvkballisticrhino1393]

Would you be able to make a video on how to set up the blinking preset names? I can't figure it out.

[@chrisjeemusic]

I'm sure I can get around to doing that. Are you having trouble doing it on the device itself? or on the editor?

[@cvkballisticrhino1393]

@Chris Giannola Music both. I mostly use editor, granted I've only had it a few days. But when I select blink it does nothing

[@chrisjeemusic]

@@cvkballisticrhino1393 Okay. I'll try and get a video tutorial on how to do it in the coming days.

[@cvkballisticrhino1393]

@Chris Giannola Music actually scratch that. I ended up figuring it out. I just missed the step where you set clear last preset on banks page. All good now👍

[@chrisjeemusic]

@@cvkballisticrhino1393 awesome, glad you were able to figure it out 🤙🏻

[@daanfischer5452]

Question, do you daysi chain all your midi pedals via the midi out of the mc6? I do that on my mc3, but when i want a program change, it does that for all the pedals in that chain? Any advise or work around?

[@chrisjeemusic]

I do not daisy chain the midi pedals, no. Sounds like your midi pedals are all set to the same midi channel. I would check to make sure each midi pedal is set to its’ own channel, that way, when you go to set a PC change, it is changing the way you are wanting it to. Make sense? Ex: midi pedal 1 is set to midi channel 2, midi pedal 2 is set to midi channel 4.

[@kristenrocksfrags8584]

This is a beautiful rig! Do you have all of your pedals connected to the ML5? I’m totally new to MIDI. I have 5 non midi pedals that will be connected to my ML5, but then I have 3 midi capable pedals for wet effects so I wasn’t sure if maybe I should’ve gotten the ML10 to have everything connected into that. I always used a traditional 8 loop true bypass switcher for years so this will be a big change for me lol! I’m hoping to use the MC8 in a similar fashion to what you’re doing where each section of my songs are programmed. I also want to have a Sit In bank where I have a preset for each overdrive and be able to toggle in wet effects too.

[@kristenrocksfrags8584]

I might be overthinking it lol! The ML5 is still on the way. If I understand correctly, I just take the output of the ML5 and go to my Synesthesia, Timeline, and Mercury 7. Then do the midi connections of course.

[@chrisjeemusic]

hey there, thank you! for this board, I only have my non-midi pedals connected to the ML5, with the midi capable pedals outside of it. You are correct when you said in you second comment to take the output of the ML5 and go to your synesthesia, TL and M7; that's exactly how I ran this board: ML5 out > TL and BS. So I had two different connections: regular pedal chain as well as a midi chain. I used to run the Boss ES8 before and had literally all my pedals running into that, so the morningstar stuff took a little bit to get used to for me as well.

[@kristenrocksfrags8584]

@@chrisjeemusic Thank you for clarifying! So if I decide to use only a reverb with an overdrive for example, do I have to send a CC message to tell the other pedals to be bypassed like my Timeline and Synesthesia? It’s confusing because at first I just I just send messages to the pedals I will be using in that preset, but maybe I’m missing that important step.

[@chrisjeemusic]

@@kristenrocksfrags8584 Sure thing! Yes, if you just want to use specific pedals for a section and bypass other pedals, you will need to program CC messages to do this.

[@jayardeguzman1763]

Bro how is your signal chain by using the ML5?

[@chrisjeemusic]

It’s been awhile since i’ve had this setup. If I remember correctly, it was guitar > tuner > “in” of the ml5. Loop 1 was the prism. L2 was the morning glory, L3 was my vp, L4 was the subnup and L5 was the chorus. “Out” from the ml5 into the strymon TL > strymon BS > amp.

[@jparty8599]

Hi, is the ML5 stereo as well?

[@chrisjeemusic]

It is not, but the ml10x can handle stereo.

[@tommystratpaul]

Really Nice dude! I have been looking into the MC6 for this exact usage. Is it easy to navigate if you all of a sudden need to play a song not on the set list?

[@chrisjeemusic]

Thanks man! That really all depends on if you have the song already programmed in the mc6 as well as knowing exactly where it is located within the unit, if that makes sense? If you don't, then obviously you wouldn't be able to. If you do, you would just need to know where it's at. Hopefully that answers your question.

[@isaacpn7]

Hey man... this is great info. My lead guitar player at my church recently got MC6 as well and we are working on building presets and songs. we have a few questions would love to know your thoughts: 1. Are banks basically songs? if so you only have 30 songs available to store in the mc6? 2. How do you create set lists ? if it's even possible?

[@chrisjeemusic]

Appreciate the kind words dude! To answer your questions: 1. yes, banks are essentially song presets and you are correct that only 30 songs can be stored at a given time. With that being said though, you can also export those banks onto your computer (store them in a folder, which is what I do) and import them back into the MC6 for later use. 2. You can create a setlist, yes; however, there's a slight process in how to do so. Morningstar has a video tutorial about that I'll link here, as I believe it to be a helpful resource. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmbWZWemdq5ghNE I implement the first part of this video where I create a bank jump, but where I differ is that when I bank jump, it simply takes me to the first song of my setlist and when I get to the last song of my set list, I simply set one of the buttons to jump back to the main menu. Hopefully this makes sense?

[@juand.semidey9568]

You couldn’t activate the red remote of the morning glory with the mc6 ?

[@chrisjeemusic]

I'm honestly not sure if you can do that. If it is possible, I'd have to research on how to do it. Either way, I prefer having the manual control over it.

[@josephestes7076]

@@chrisjeemusic you can't do it with just the mc6 as there is not a latching relay in there. However they make a relay that is midi controllable and will do the trick. It's a nice to have not a need to have and it does require power if I'm not mistaken.

[@chrisjeemusic]

@@josephestes7076 good to know! I did see they released that unit not too long ago, but wasn’t sure what it did.

[@_happy02]

What cables are you using to go from your analog pedals into ml5?

[@_happy02]

I also have some questions for your signal chain if you don’t mind

[@chrisjeemusic]

I'm not sure of the name of the company that makes the actual cables, however the company that wired it up for me is Runway Audio in Nashville, TN. They custom built each cable on this board. The ends that go into each pedal are SP400 and the ones going into the ML5 are called G&H.

[@chrisjeemusic]

@@_happy02 Sure thing, what's your questions?

[@_happy02]

Awesome I’ll make sure to get those cable ends. Does your signal chain stay the same using the ml5? Or would I have to route my pedals differently to accommodate that?

[@chrisjeemusic]

@@_happy02 from my understanding of it, yes, it stays the same even with the ML5. The looper just keeps the signal path nice and clean and won't interrupt the signal if a pedal happens to malfunction.