"How I win fights without knowing anything" - CollegeTuition's BDO Awakening Ninja PvP Guide

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@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
Please note that due to the December 22, 2021 class reworks, some parts of this guide may contain slight inaccuracies.
@RealFabz
@RealFabz 2 жыл бұрын
so glad to see you back buddy. real talk though, what do you think about ninja rework? I see ninja players crying all over the net about "serpent nerfs". I didn't even hear anything about nerfs to his serpent, I am confused.
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
@@RealFabz To be honest, I haven't been playing BDO outside of seasons, so I don't really know much about the rework right now either. I'll need to figure it out for myself once the new season starts.
@cjlsniper
@cjlsniper 2 жыл бұрын
@@IntTuition if you find out more about the rework I’d love a rework guide or quick short video on it :)
@martnsalah8941
@martnsalah8941 2 жыл бұрын
As over a 5 year ninja player this is one of the best if not the best basic guide I have seen yet, it goes over the basics and and the reasoning behind ninja play style rather than commanding the viewer. Honestly I will be recommending this video to any new player who wants to learn the class without any worry it might overwhelm them. Great work my friend keep up the great content
@Sxxmaschine
@Sxxmaschine 2 жыл бұрын
hey. does still still apply at current state of the game? i just installed and looking for an male class with interesting pvp mechanics
@martnsalah8941
@martnsalah8941 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sxxmaschine as you can see in the comments the the guide maker said after the rework the class over all get a rework but as for myself I would still recommend you watch it because most of the class kit remain the same and it's educational otherwise rather than combos and input
@Sxxmaschine
@Sxxmaschine 2 жыл бұрын
@@martnsalah8941 ok thanks for the answer :)
@Kirkland_Drip
@Kirkland_Drip Жыл бұрын
This is the no. 1 best guide to PvP in BDO. Period.
@berdzena49
@berdzena49 Жыл бұрын
im playing ninja since 2016 and i have to say that its great guide, best wat i ever see
@yELoHQ
@yELoHQ 2 жыл бұрын
Clean guide buddy, long time no see : )
@enricoejamespadua1754
@enricoejamespadua1754 2 жыл бұрын
I miss yelo guides. :(
@five5laps
@five5laps 2 жыл бұрын
Man, i have no words. Honestly, i really just started playing bdo after WoW, and this guide is something incredible! I never saw this dedication and good talking, big thanks, your guide really open me eyes on how to use my buttons. Hope you get the gratitude you deserve!
@v_Ve_v
@v_Ve_v Жыл бұрын
Still play it?
@Tacticalforeplay
@Tacticalforeplay 2 жыл бұрын
this has been the best broken down ninja guide i have ever seen thank you so its actually 10/10
@tgbbegttg5018
@tgbbegttg5018 2 жыл бұрын
" How to win fight without knowing anything " you make an expert look like a 9 years old. Most friendly guide on KZbin !
@TheUnone
@TheUnone Жыл бұрын
Great vid, a guide not just for the class, but for the games' PvP. This is what great guides do, thank you for thinking this through.
@tulipgojo
@tulipgojo 2 жыл бұрын
This video deserves more than 7k views+. Appreciate that, Thank you so much for the guide!
@raytotherose10101
@raytotherose10101 2 жыл бұрын
Thank u for slowing it down, i'm about to watch this religiously, ninja is such a fun class that seems to counter any plays, including these annoying eva sorcs lol
@vermstella2964
@vermstella2964 2 жыл бұрын
As a pro ninja in SEA server, I would like to express my sentiment towards to you that this video has the best explanation and knowledge about ninja among videos on youtube! THE BEST VIDEO SO FAR IN 4 years
@francisnguyen9554
@francisnguyen9554 2 жыл бұрын
Although I play a succession ninja, I find this guide immensely helpful. Thanks 👍
@Vxerses
@Vxerses Жыл бұрын
Big SUB! This is exactly the video I needed NEW PLAYER maining NINJA ONLY AND I NEEDED THIS THANK YOU.
@alexwashington8785
@alexwashington8785 2 жыл бұрын
Never seen a guide like this for any class in a game ever. This is GOOD.
@vierolski865
@vierolski865 Жыл бұрын
By far the best pvp video on YT. Would love to get it with succession exemples. Ty bro
@scottstape9547
@scottstape9547 2 жыл бұрын
This is totally the complete package guide! I love how your approach on combo which is absolutely right. Memorizing fixed combo wont help you in the situation. Instead, learning proper combo when other skill are on cooldown is masterpiece. New subs!
@olGhozts
@olGhozts 2 жыл бұрын
I’m watching this now for BDO Console so I can get into Awakening. This has helped me so much and I love the video. Thank you for putting this out and I hope to see more from you.
@stopmakingmechangemyname
@stopmakingmechangemyname 2 жыл бұрын
quality level of this guide is heads and shoulders above 90% of similar videos on youtube. The bar has been set
@AdaptWrld
@AdaptWrld 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best class guide I have ever watched, as a long time sorc player I am rolling to ninja and you have laid the path for me perfectly
@daddyjuns2794
@daddyjuns2794 2 жыл бұрын
man!! got me auto sub on the part where you were discussing we shouldnt worry on combos too much. made a lot of sense to a newbie like me who has been searching for literally just combos! i love this vid so much and thank you!! more power and you definitely should have more subs!
@aviscia
@aviscia 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best guide for awk ninja imo, thanks for helping me learning the class man!
@igrim_x_x4062
@igrim_x_x4062 2 жыл бұрын
Best guide I have ever seen, I was actually sad to see this video end 😂. You earned a sub
@IRumburakI
@IRumburakI 2 жыл бұрын
You made great guide, I feel like the thing of going on behind is where I always catch any other ninja. It's like you already know direction of ninja movement or where he aims to position himself.
@EzioZ
@EzioZ 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Sensei been waiting for this guide for awhile, just got back to ninja recently this just makes it make so much more sense!!! Understanding the thought process behind movements. Amazing guide 🥋
@vadzz726
@vadzz726 2 жыл бұрын
Ninja was my first character but I straggled a lot (without any guide) and moved to different character, but seeing this video made me wanna try again!! And I’m hopeful I could master this class now thanks to you!! Much appreciated!! 👍👍😁😁
@taefhayabusa
@taefhayabusa 2 жыл бұрын
this dude has PHD in bdo mechanics , great work dude
@kaenkumo1030
@kaenkumo1030 2 жыл бұрын
Nice freaking video man. It explains a lot. I really like the scene where you break down the fight in the combat demo. That part of the video was really nicee. GG, GD man.. Nicee video man..
@ballerg3353
@ballerg3353 2 жыл бұрын
You are a good teacher period .
@snarkycollins6386
@snarkycollins6386 2 жыл бұрын
Это лучший гайд на ниндзю на всем Ютубе Hi from Russia 🇷🇺 Thx for ur videos
@RandomStranger10
@RandomStranger10 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this amazing guide!this must be the best ninja guide out there!
@bigchoby6265
@bigchoby6265 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing guide! Love the "ninja mindset" approach you took. It's something most starting ninjas struggle with (as a returning ninja i can tell :D). Would you mind sharing your crystals and addons setup? Rn im having a hard time finishing my kills and maybe it could be related to that. Anyways, im very grateful for the time you put in this. Keep it up!
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
Pause the video at 0:16 for my addons, and 0:17 for my gear/crystals. But you should keep in mind that I haven't pvp'd on my main since December 2020. This year I have just been playing seasonal servers which caps at 250 AP 309 DP. So the build that I had may or may not be outdated on the main servers in 2022 with its much higher ap/dp caps.
@azeros5412
@azeros5412 2 жыл бұрын
What a crazy detailed tutorial 🔥
@leventepuskas8157
@leventepuskas8157 2 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this for so long ty, also could u make a separate video of the changes after the class rework?
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I will, but I'm just seeing the reworks for the first time myself as well. So it will take some time for me to figure everything out.
@RealFabz
@RealFabz 2 жыл бұрын
@@IntTuition just a tl;dr for awakening • you can cancel shadow stomp out of fatal blow and heart aiming now • shadow clone is seperated from shadow stomp now, only works with hotbar -> I didn't figure out how to cancel it yet... I don't think its possible to cancel the animation..? (well malice still works to cancel the ending animation but making the starting animation quicker is.. uh... idk, I can't do it) • serpent only one wave again, fps drop bug got fixed (mostly, it still happens a sometimes, though it is not as bad as it used to be) • drastic measure is complete super armor now, bound was changed to pve only (bound for pvp with core) • blockjump got some neat changes making outplays easier to do and is overall more viable • some animations are faster (seamless for example is faster by I'd say roughly 20%) • corrupted sword dance now has a locked cooldown, got FG and down attack though • sudden decapitation has wider aoe, though it's a bit weird to use • mach explosion has more damage • vacuum slash has a wider aoe at the last attack I think I covered the most important stuff. Hope to see some montages from you again soon. Merry Christmas :)
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
This is good to know, thanks. Merry Christmas!
@cain7925
@cain7925 2 жыл бұрын
very nice guide, i hope you make succession guide in the future.
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I'll think about it. I haven't really been enjoying the Succession playstyle as much as Awakening because it feels too SA trade heavy.
@cain7925
@cain7925 2 жыл бұрын
@@IntTuition ur right need to be geared to play succession
@ahmadshawi6232
@ahmadshawi6232 2 жыл бұрын
That was just WoW thank you for the effort you did put in, i have a question plz do you use an Evasion Build or dmg reduction build for ninja?
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
You can see my build during the introduction of the video. But it is likely outdated by now so I would recommend you look for a more modern build.
@michaelpese6292
@michaelpese6292 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this guide, I’m on console and looking to reroll ninja and you my friend have definitely covered every question I had in my mind before trying him out. Wish you were on console so I can better learn from you in BA. Do you have a twitch or still play BDO so I can watch and learn some more? Thanks 🙏 for this
@vladimirzoric3693
@vladimirzoric3693 2 жыл бұрын
Great great guide! Since I really like how your ninja look is there any possibility if you can share link to your character template?
@Wyd.Miho28
@Wyd.Miho28 Жыл бұрын
Great vid sir. It helps me alot to play a little better in ninja. But still a long way to go. Sir do you have latest add ons and new crystal pvp build?
@rhardmarshall3991
@rhardmarshall3991 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, I'm starting to learn about ninja awakening, could you give me a pvp build? wanted to know which status should i focus on if it is evasion or dr? Your guide is the best I've ever seen on the internet keep doing this great work it's helping new players like me a lot.
@beeLife07
@beeLife07 2 жыл бұрын
Awakening all the way dr
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but I'm not actively playing BDO at the moment so I don't know which build is meta.
@CommandoMaster
@CommandoMaster 2 жыл бұрын
Nice guide!
@АнатолийГурко-з4ю
@АнатолийГурко-з4ю 2 жыл бұрын
Гайд по одному из самых(если не самому) сложных классов игры. Спасибо!
@crucifyxdevil
@crucifyxdevil 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Great details. Learned a lot about ninja. Thanks! Keep it up. You got my sub
@B.id_90
@B.id_90 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, srsly your guide is really useful!
@moisesguimaraes6209
@moisesguimaraes6209 2 жыл бұрын
TYSMMM I really love Awakening Ninja, damn i mean 6 freaking swords xD seems so cool and funny to play. Tysm for guide
@NxKSH
@NxKSH 2 жыл бұрын
Hi InTuiton, can you make a video going in depth with fishing for cc??
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I'm taking an extended break from BDO, until the Arena of Solare is officially released at the earliest. In the meantime maybe this video where I explain some fights step by step could be helpful kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqazp6aebcZ6mq8
@sometimespin7648
@sometimespin7648 2 жыл бұрын
Yo your guidance was perfect 💯
@diamondsamurai8501
@diamondsamurai8501 Жыл бұрын
Мужик, спасибо тебе, теперь я знаю как думать как ниндзя! Ты прав во всем. Как ты разобрал по частям этот класс, ты прям душу из него вынимаешь. Красавчик ты, обнял. Подписка, лайк, друзьям расскажу, тоже подпишутся.
@diamondsamurai8501
@diamondsamurai8501 Жыл бұрын
Thanks man, now I can think like a ninja! You are right about everything. As you dismantled this class in parts, you took out the soul from it. You're handsome, hugged. Subscribe, put likes, tell your friends, they will also subscribe.
@KatoZero
@KatoZero 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing! 🔥🔥
@mcowell041
@mcowell041 Жыл бұрын
fantastic video
@leonardomarcelinoalves1249
@leonardomarcelinoalves1249 Жыл бұрын
Muito obrigado pela aula sensei 🤩
@Von_Executor
@Von_Executor 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your guide, is awesome guide, i was kunoichi before and after following kitnah guide i became good at pvp using kunoichi. but now since i bored play kunoichi i change play to ninja because your complete guide style for pvp. i know ninja more delicate from kunoichi but since your sharing guide and i can make my own style PVP play now, because of your guide now i learn much how to combo and cancel and succses in pvp awaken way 🥰🥰. btw can you share your add on for 1 VS 1 PVP and add on for 1 VS 3 guide thanks again 🙏🙏 very insipirate PVP guide for Ninja 😆😆 i give you 5⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ for this guide.
@SoloTrap-g3p
@SoloTrap-g3p 6 ай бұрын
2024 still very helpful. Thank you sir
@decu8187
@decu8187 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a ninja but 10/10 guide quality I congratulate you
@FallSilence
@FallSilence 2 жыл бұрын
i dont play ninja, but man was this guide so detailed and helpful thanks for it. !
@JGabrielAndres
@JGabrielAndres 2 жыл бұрын
holy sh*t this is a very good guide
@BATANGPASLAKTV
@BATANGPASLAKTV 2 жыл бұрын
what a perfect guide... unfortunately i use succesion do u have guide for succesion like this. pls.
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I don't have a succession guide unfortunately
@vierolski865
@vierolski865 2 жыл бұрын
Damnn, you explain well brother, ty
@kaenkumo1030
@kaenkumo1030 2 жыл бұрын
What about Locking a skill?? How should we handle that? I've kinda been playing with Blade Spin - Locked. Any advice would be gladly received.. Thanks.
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
Ninja Evasion is the only skill I don't use. I have Flashing Light locked because I prefer to use it on quickslot. There isn't really a need to lock most Ninja skills imo because the keys generally don't conflict with each other. Blade Spin is a quickslot only skill so locking it doesn't really do anything.
@xMarco07x
@xMarco07x Жыл бұрын
I'm getting into the game just now, and love ninja, but it makes no sense to me yet (about 15hours into the season) i wish there was a guide like this for pve so that noobs like me would understand where to start ahahah. Amazing guide nonetheless
@cjlsniper
@cjlsniper 2 жыл бұрын
Best video I’ve seen
@tulipgojo
@tulipgojo 2 жыл бұрын
at 1:40 why didn't you use Awk Grab instead of using Serpent right after blockjump? Nvm he still died to your serpent only KEKW
@cjlsniper
@cjlsniper 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have any tips for console players, we get tons of desync so I’m getting stunned in super armors like katana shower, so I’ve had to stop using it almost entirely, what I mean by tips is skills that if castes consecutively won’t have micro gaps where the gap can register me unprotected
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I'm not really familiar with how BDO works on consoles. In my experience, if you desync out of a protected skill, the problem is usually with the previous skill that you used. For example, if you used Serpent Ascension > Katana Shower, and then you get CC'd while in Katana Shower, then it means that you actually got CC'd during Serpent Ascension, not because there is gap in Katana Shower. But I don't know if the same applies for console.
@cjlsniper
@cjlsniper 2 жыл бұрын
@@IntTuition so in my case I use block jump, i pop out as soon as my friend uses block jump while he’s completely invisible on my screen I attack where he is invisible because I can kill him in it, so the protections are delayed by about half a second to a whole second
@7siniestro
@7siniestro 2 жыл бұрын
wish me luck, i will attempt this class now
@totong7717
@totong7717 Жыл бұрын
what are those ksill in combo name quickslot?
@Kizzaru03
@Kizzaru03 2 жыл бұрын
damn this guy is a true sensei
@jellybean6902
@jellybean6902 2 жыл бұрын
Damn u make me wanna reroll to Ninja 0.0n
@9bdavid
@9bdavid Жыл бұрын
Aewsome guide, idk u doing a succ version nowadays * - *
@takisdelijohn2098
@takisdelijohn2098 2 жыл бұрын
noob here, great guide dude, are you gonna update it after reboot changes? thanks!
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think there were enough changes in the reboot to justify a full rewrite, but maybe I'll make a video that covers the major changes or something like that
@Snowiestttv
@Snowiestttv 2 жыл бұрын
I'm new to ninja, do u need to c swap to get into awake stance after using ninja step? or can i just somehow use ninjastep and instantly press RMB for stance?
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
Ninja Step doesn't change your stance. So if you were already in Awakening then you'll stay in Awakening and don't need to C swap; but if you were in Pre-awakening then you'll need to C swap to Awakening.
@Snowiestttv
@Snowiestttv 2 жыл бұрын
@@IntTuition Thanks!
@Kirkland_Drip
@Kirkland_Drip Жыл бұрын
Specs? To be able to run BDO pvp on ultra??
@davideng7834
@davideng7834 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video for someone who is about to play bdo and ninja for the first time on the season server. Trying to decide between awakening and succession. Awakening looks cooler but which has the faster movement speed and movement based skills like dashes and survivability?
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
Succession has better burst movement whereas Awakening has better sustained movement. Succession survivability depends a lot more on Super Armor compared to Awakening, which means Succession is more gear dependent. This doesn't really matter as much on Seasonal server though since it's capped at 250 AP 309 DP, but if you want to eventually PvP on the main servers then it will probably be easier to survive on Awakening until you get better gear.
@edmondedmond8296
@edmondedmond8296 2 жыл бұрын
time to play again 😁
@uh9p424
@uh9p424 2 жыл бұрын
what is this outfit? it's rlly nice
@almasip3406
@almasip3406 2 жыл бұрын
@InTution please make pve guide thankyou!
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
I avoid PvE like the plague so idk about that one 😅
@johnpang3576
@johnpang3576 2 жыл бұрын
Hi new player here, i have carpal tunnel and I want to learn/play ninja, it looks fun, im not much into pvp but i enjoy grinding and lifeskilling, does anyone here have any tips for someone wanting to get into ninja? Is it as apm intensive as people say? or does that depend on the person/grindspot? I would appreciate an answer very much!
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I'm not much help when it comes to PvE. I will say though, that yes, Ninja is a lot more apm intensive relative to other classes, as there are some very low apm classes in this game. However, it's not like Ninja is StarCraft level of APM or anything, and I feel that the average player can get accustomed to the APM through practice. But I don't have the necessary qualifications to judge how much carpal tunnel will affect your ability to play the class or not. I would say just give the class a try during Seasons. You would be able to figure out pretty quickly if the apm is uncomfortable for you just by leveling the character, and there is a free exp/sp transfer if you decide to reroll off Ninja.
@drb0ltr1ckz21
@drb0ltr1ckz21 2 жыл бұрын
what fps and gpu do u play with
@someonesomeone529
@someonesomeone529 2 жыл бұрын
great guide but why now? in 3 days reworks will be released.
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know, but I had people asking me to make a guide since last year and only now I had the time, motivation, and ideas to make one.
@vahnayasaki6989
@vahnayasaki6989 2 жыл бұрын
The reworks barely change anything but pve and pvp combos. Ninja will work the same after. Don't think that rework is an actual full class rework
@NightBlade58
@NightBlade58 Жыл бұрын
Just getting into the game and this was amazing. Question: what add ons do you have and how do I get them?
@KarasuHarumichi
@KarasuHarumichi 2 жыл бұрын
bro are seasons still capped with pen tuvala?
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@cazimim3375
@cazimim3375 Жыл бұрын
Do u play Arena of solare ?
@khalidayman7731
@khalidayman7731 2 жыл бұрын
What is this outfit !! It's amazing
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
Crayodel Soldier Uniform. It's a Christmas outfit. Comes in Red by default, I dyed it Black.
@slicedice2633
@slicedice2633 2 жыл бұрын
Ninja only things "How I win fights without knowing anything" .
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
😉
@beeLife07
@beeLife07 2 жыл бұрын
ah .lonng wait finally
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
😉
@chasethewindd
@chasethewindd 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
No problem
@inazurim7168
@inazurim7168 2 жыл бұрын
Eva?
@nikolalefterov7472
@nikolalefterov7472 2 жыл бұрын
which core skill?
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
Katana Shower for me, but I've seen other Ninjas use Serpent Ascension, Drastic Measure, and Murderous Intent as well.
@callumnicholson4191
@callumnicholson4191 2 жыл бұрын
Is ninja still best pvp class
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on who you ask. For Siege probably not. For 1v1 and Open World I would say yes.
@callumnicholson4191
@callumnicholson4191 2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough man so for 1vx it's best yeah?
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
@@callumnicholson4191 I think so yes, but your millage may vary.
@callumnicholson4191
@callumnicholson4191 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate so you think ninja is still #1 for pvp?
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
@@callumnicholson4191 Well like I said, I think there are better choices for Siege and Large Scale PvP, but for Open World PvP which is what I mainly do, I would say it's still the best.
@khairinkaramy4063
@khairinkaramy4063 2 жыл бұрын
Damn shit , i had to cancel selling my Ninja , after waching this .. xD
@PhamVans
@PhamVans 2 жыл бұрын
What is ninja?
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
A class in Black Desert Online
@piber540
@piber540 2 жыл бұрын
very well..... but i can do noting :D
@mxlvin7952
@mxlvin7952 2 жыл бұрын
Be water , my zerker became a DOGGOOO ^_^
@therealtotem
@therealtotem 2 жыл бұрын
+1 sub, thanks.
@M00nMan93
@M00nMan93 2 жыл бұрын
Noooo you did not!! Thank you for making a guide man.
@IntTuition
@IntTuition 2 жыл бұрын
I totally did 😉
@forglory8447
@forglory8447 2 жыл бұрын
what u say is right but only when u have good ping bdo no ping = useless even u are pvp god or whatever no good ping and fps u are nothing rmb this !!!! make sure u have good ping only play bdo if not u want have peace gameplay or ENJOINABLE gameplay
@SuperKinahead
@SuperKinahead Жыл бұрын
its funny how the more i research bdo pvp the more the montages look less and less like a button spammming fest.
@lianxinsolombos4888
@lianxinsolombos4888 2 жыл бұрын
......
@VoidragonGaming
@VoidragonGaming Жыл бұрын
I miss ninja Awk with 3s Murderous Intent cooldown. The cooldown change is very crippling while other classes have op sa attacks they can spam.
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