How is extreme poverty being measured in China? | Inside Story

Ending extreme poverty has been a key initiative of the Chinese president since he came to power in 2012.
Almost a decade later, Xi Jinping says his country has achieved the 'miracle that would go down in history'.
His government says that over an eight-year period, nearly 100 million people have been lifted out of destitution.
But critics are questioning China's bar for measuring poverty and the sustainability of the project.
There's also been controversy around the timing of the announcement.
The country says it has been victorious over coronavirus and......
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[@paulvirakorn]

Here is my issue with above and below $1.90. Homeless people in LA might probably be able to beg on the streets and earn more than $2 a day, does it mean they have been lifted from the extreme poverty? On the other hand, if Chinese living in Rural China. They have family living in their own home, lands to grow foods, have running water, electricity and afford to send their kids to school but they only earn less than $1 a day, does it mean they are worse off than homeless people in LA? Is that how poverty is supposed to be measured?

[@gwauzasooter2875]

The best meaningful point so far as I move across the comments. 🤝🏾🤝🏾🤝🏾

[@adaum4534]

Right! Defining extreme poverty in the US is controversial. The U.N. estimated 18M Americans live in extreme poverty, - 12K or less for a family of four. There are gov programs though that aren’t taken into consideration low income housing,food stamps and Medicaid. The conservative think tank Heritage Foundation said the U.N. figures were grossly inaccurate and said it was 200K based on

[@GuilhermeAlbani]

Exactly.

[@wakeno.6047]

BTW, any homeless in LA can find a job if he wants, also just by begging he makes more money than Chinese in rural areas would dream of. There are many families that have no land, have no clean water, or food to eat. They catch Rats to kill them and eat them. That's the truth, a truth that CCP hides, but anyone that has travelled inside China, knows.

[@uchennanwogu2142]

Compare the average Chinese person to the average American. The American is way better off. And the Chinese person would be in poverty in China.

[@oshgcan3350]

The world bank standard doesn't account for cost of living differences by geography

[@nct9466]

Or inflation

[@allentoyokawa9068]

They could never live in Chinese cities with that income

[@sigerlion8608]

@@allentoyokawa9068 Wow what a great take! Poor farmers can't afford to live in cities? Who would have thought? Poor Japanese farmers can't afford to live in Japanese cities. Poor American farmers can't afford to live in American cities. What a revelation!

[@khaitsae]

As an observer, I'm very glad China has put in resources on lifting its poorest out of extreme poverty. Thus far, when China sets a goal it eventually reaches it. The west and others have not done what China has done. If you look around the world, including the western nations you'll see there are a lot of very poor people, and homelessness is getting really bad. So, instead of wasting time being critical of China's accomplishment, how about get to work on solving your problems at home.

[@eplmait3409]

you should look what western countries citizens really make a day you will be in awe

[@allentoyokawa9068]

you believe have the things the CCP tell you?? They sure tricked you lmao

[@khaitsae]

@@eplmait3409 Still a whole lot sleeping on the streets. And, within 4 decades China has more middle class and billionaires in the world. "Awe"...?😂

[@khaitsae]

@@allentoyokawa9068 It's true, as of this year China alleviated extreme poverty. The world knows that, this is no secret. You'd probably prefer to believe "Iraq had WMD" story.

[@celine7511]

In China, the government provides healthcare for farmers who usually are the poor levels. Farmers only need to pay for 45 dollars a year to enjoy the national healthcare. The compulsory education in China is free with free meals, for college, China provides non interest loan to students and scholarships for poor students which can support the tuition and costs of living. In China, no one lost chances to go to university because of poor. Government will cover everything to try to help poor students. The tuition fee for university is about 800 dollars a year and doom fee is 180 dollars a year for Chinese students. The government also supply the fee for meals for the students, students usually only need to pay 1 dollars per meals( poor students receive scholarships). China also provides scholarship for students who wanna studying abroad if the students are excellent enough. China also provides free houses for extreme poor people and disabled people. This explains why the family housing rate is 95% in China, ranking the top in the world.

[@bitcoochie4093]

the Chinese health care system will fail

[@shenglongli8387]

We still have a long way to go, give us some time, I appreciate the non-hateful comment section though

[@pauldirac3203]

We love china, haters don't have to

[@trevorclausen2994]

I prefer China over America anyday.

[@ChooseU4ever]

China does a lot of good.

[@charlesfavell3350]

All of the above have just earned 50 cents

[@1971gift]

Sammi handled the interview well...He didn't allow Ima (sp) to bully everyone in the conversation as he was attempting to; he made sure everyone had equal time to share their positions.

[@seeker3328]

I wonder why most of the world question Chinese internal policy. The system perfectly suit their citizens and helping them to grow peacefully. Nevertheless other countries struggling for peace in the name of DEMOCRACY, a system which obviously doesn't meet with their expectations and demands for so many years. I don't understand things anymore.

[@tonoxavier9718]

Because this so-called peace is under the dictatorship which should be eliminated.

[@mena88]

Kinda strange to blanket state that it "suits" their people when their communication is restricted.

[@niceu6983]

Why is there a color revolution, because people see that social life in the West is better, so they have to overthrow their own system. What do you think will happen when people find that Chinese social life is equally good or even better?

[@mithunmohan1473]

Most of foreighn medias said indian soldiers got martyred in galwan attack but none of Chinese died .a week before after 9 months Chinese said 4 soldiers died ..a country that can't even release the number of soldiers that got martyred how can the world trust them

[@weiweiliu8416]

@@mithunmohan1473 what if China gov released the number, and the media distorted the stories, and the nationalist in both countries stired up the hate emotions, and then the people wanted a war. The situation could gone really bad with the pandemic on going at that time. China just wants to restrain itself from conflict just like many other situations in the region.

[@stephenchan7398]

Regardless how UN defined extreme poverty, it is generally recognized that China has elevated 800 millions out of extreme poverty. More importantly this channel ignores the fact that China has been the only country in the world made poverty eradication as a national policy. Even the richest country has done nothing to slow the growing homeless poor. China at least has made the first step which is better than no step in other part of the world. Credit, not criticism, should be given where it dues.

[@SpLUrGe85]

Classic answer for those insecure of recognising china to say other parts shouldn’t criticise. Great job on helping improve so many lives, but credit needs to be carefully given when such bold claims of eradicating poverty are made. I’m not comparing any country to china, but that statement alone from any country is questionable

[@brighthan1902]

It’s the only country whose government put people in the extreme poverty in the first place

[@TheLatiosnlatias02]

UN should be destroyed

[@felton-rx3ue]

@@brighthan1902 Learn some history. China was the richest country in the world till 1840, but bacame one of the poorest cuntries 100 years later after suffering from aggression and plunder by Western powers and Japan.

[@yifantian1942]

Goods and services are much cheaper in China. In China, $2 can buy you a decent meal in fast restaurant in many cities around China. In USA, it is impossible.

[@SpLUrGe85]

Depends what you call decent. Highly processed food and meats that are pumped with antibiotics and raised in questionable circumstances wouldn’t be decent in my world. Agree on the lower cost of services but the quality of foods, and conditions is not like how people lived 70 years ago.

[@stevenw2933]

@@SpLUrGe85 actually it is the opposite case in china, american processed fast food is much more expensive in china than locally made street food because their price is in line with international prices. KFC, mcdonald and pizza hut is considered luxury food in China. As for food safety, ractopamine for example is banned in China and the EU while legal and widely used in the US and Canada. Its almost like real life is more complex than China bad West good.

[@Blaze6432]

@@stevenw2933 Bad food and Fast food are not synonymous. an independent food stall can serve harmful food as well.

[@sch4891]

the way china measures poverty has more to do with adequate housing, food security, access to education and a doctor not how much money you have. in a lot of the rural areas you can still live fine without any money so it doesnt work as a measure there

[@migovas1483]

they give you a hut , some left overs and a guy to check you are alive. You are not 'Poor' anymore...

[@user-fj5xc8cl5l]

The Chinese government will provide free vocational training and job recommendation to the poor. I work in a non-profit vocational training school, which provides basic job skills training to the poor. In our province, there is a preferential policy that every poor person (including the unemployed, freelancers, retired soldiers and their families, graduating students, farmers, poor families, the disabled and their families) who get a certificate of achievement will be given a reward of at least 1000 or 1200 yuan (about 140 ~ 170 US dollars) by the government. The training period is about 15 days. In addition, they are given 30 to 50 yuan (about $4 to $8) per day for food and transportation during the training period. After the training, we will often forward recruitment information and advertisements to the trainees who have participated in the training. This is just one of the preferential policies involved in my work, and there are many other preferential policies for the poor that I do not know about. (I am not an English speaker, I have long forgotten what I learned when I was young, and now I use a translation software to translate it, which may have grammatical and dictation errors.)

[@xuchen4012]

The standard of extrem poverty is 630 USD a year. It's disposable family income (after tax and insurance) divided by all family members. For example, A family consists of a couple with two kids and two elders. The line of poverty for this family is 3780 USD a year. Not that low as you thought. Actually it's close to global standard (a bit lower).

[@crankshaft5867]

3780 dollars a year in india is a luxury.

[@ashwinvk4124]

@@crankshaft5867 no its not

[@harryzhang3111]

@@ashwinvk4124 It definitely is in Nigeria. 300 USD = 250,000 Naira but the take home wages of a factory worker is about 60,000 Naira.

[@ashwinvk4124]

@@harryzhang3111 in India if you live in the country side / rural areas it might be okay but in urban areas you can just scrap through and if you have a family then it's even worse. 3780 USD a year is a far cry away from luxury in India .

[@bigbobtong]

The Chinese is way ahead above the numbers set ...... Because it is 10 times cheaper to live in the Country Side in China. The Chinese income of $1.70 per day equal $17.00 in the West. GOOD JOB ...... WELL DONE CHINA ...... I AM HAPPY FOR THE 100 MILLION

[@TheLatiosnlatias02]

all the best for China

[@jamesanderson4370]

I visited poor villagers in China 10 years ago. China has certainly lifted millions out of poverty more than any country in the world. Far more than America and other countries. America life span has persistently going down where as Chinese lifespan in poor regions are going up. America spent most reserves in wars rather than in health.

[@nanahuang8623]

You forgot to mention the reason that China has so many in poverty was their backwards policies from 1950 to 1980. The West supported China throughout their hard times. The Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution set China back decades, just like the fake poverty eradication program and offensive human rights abuses will today. Now that China gets no special treatment it's game over for the CCP.

[@today8100]

@@nanahuang8623 why include just the end bit of the century of humiliation? China's pride and economic success have plummeted ever since the 19th century.

[@nanahuang8623]

@@today8100 The century of humiliation is a hoax.. to make Chinese people feel like victims. Watch old films of China, I don't think the British or foreigners are the issue.. they're walking around with rikshaws, with cue's... quite backwards on their own.

[@today8100]

@@nanahuang8623 ah yes, some old films of impoverished Britishers are enough to cause a paradigm shift. Will you also deny Japan's slaughtering of the Chinese during WW2?

[@daturadreams]

'James Anderson' I hope you get deported back to China so that you can see more poor villagers and tell them how they have been lifted out of poverty. Chinese statistics are about as good as the welfare system...say what? there is none? it's all bullshit? China has no socialized healthcare, has no welfare system? No way! Chinese officials make up statistics so they get a promotion or are not jailed?....no way!

[@deidradahl2802]

I take my hat off to the Chinese president, I Know of countries with, 3 million people, or less, rich in land wood and water yet, there is dire poverty, to govern 1,4 billion people and see to most of their needs is, great governance

[@renoltaen7506]

Hail China?

[@guardianoffire8814]

Now they can be removed from the developing list of countries and be treated no differently than developed country.

[@gizroc]

@@renoltaen7506 hail hydra!!

[@gizroc]

@@guardianoffire8814 yup no more foreign aid for them

[@Blaze6432]

@@guardianoffire8814 Yet their population is still economically weak on an international level.

[@haoxus9413]

China is doing really well There's no doubt about that

[@AlmightyAaron0423]

@Chris Carrasquilla Why Latino ppl act like right wing Caucasian?

[@gdftast5600]

@@AlmightyAaron0423 Not all latinos, he's just stupid.

[@sf2998]

yes i too was thinking about this in terms of PPP

[@Sunrise19995]

You cannot simply use money to judge the poverty level. The rural Chinese people do have the medical care/ insurance covers 95% of medical fee and they can grow their own foods on their land. No taxes. Their children can go to school without paying any tuition, and school covers food for the students from poor families. The most important thing is Chinese leaders really trying hard to help people in poverty. The government have done a lot to improve people’s living situation. That’s better than most leaders in the world.

[@celine7511]

This well explains why Chinese family housing is 95%, higher than most western developed countries.

[@kobayashibadger6438]

Around 65% for normal medicine

[@yehenry2281]

I have been in China more than 35 years, in 90s you could see beggars, garbage, mess things around the streets, I remembered after the year of 2000, less and less beggars you could find instead by every place in the cities were under construction like metro elevated roads, high way ,buildings and so on.

[@atta1798]

How about the country side

[@HLMAX]

Einar Tangen needs to offer debating courses for Chinese diplomats and correspondents. Most are just too meek and lack confidence, always on the defensive and being walked all over. Time to be more aggressive and offensive to win the arguments.

[@Xind0898]

regardless of your debating skill, the reality on the ground is more important, China is facing a serious challenge that is almost impossible to overcome when it comes to semi-conductor stranglehold, and China can have as many greater debater as you want, but it doesn't change the fact that China will lose the tech-race if China don't find a way to secure its semi-conductor industry a steady supply-chain. China can pour trillions into chips and semi-conductor R&D but it's not a money problem, its a talent pool problem. China lags very behind in this sector and it's going to take decades to catch-up regardless of investment.

[@rap3208]

Eatern philisophy is as confucius said, "Leadership Lessons from Confucius: actions speak louder than words". Asians compared to westerners are really timid to speak up, they think it is better to show it. Asians traditionally give deference to superiors and are discouraged to speak up in meetings, they are encouraged to speak behind the scene. Westerners from childhood are raised to speak up no matter where and with who is infront of him. So westerners get to be confident talking in front of crowds, easterners let their superiors do the talking and just give their contribution behind the scene, thus not many of them even some of their leaders get to be eloquent.

[@lillylee3817]

I think they are learning and soon surpassed their western counterparts.

[@tedaspane1493]

@@Xind0898 - Problem is CCP loves to control every aspect of Chinese lives, in another word, a control freak, that's why many best and the brightest Chinese scientists don't want to work in China.

[@Xind0898]

@@tedaspane1493 "many best and the brightest Chinese scientists don't want to work in China." This may be true, but i don't see how you make the causation between this, and the 'control freak' aspect. For example, India is probably the opposite of China, they almost control nothing (not because there is a lack of will, but its lack of central power to do anything) Yet India has even more talent drained away from their own nation. Look at silicon valley now, its almost all India entrepreneurs working for the USA, not India. The direct relationship I see is that those talents are often educated abroad (Ivy leagues/Cambridge etc), and a lot of them started to like local culture and local social dynamic, so they want to stay in their second-homeland to contribute. Mind you, this is why US, Canada, Australia etc (the migration driven nations) can prosper, because they provide very good environment for highly talented individuals to thrive. China doesn't do very well yet (but it is getting better, as you can see alot of Chinese abroad are starting to come back to China, e.g Luqi who used to be vice president of microsoft, came back to work in China under Baidu (now he has left baidu but sill remained in China)

[@adamkwalczyk]

It's like reducing obesity in America by setting its starting point at 140 kg

[@Walawala459]

1.4 billion and no homeless, that is a miracle!

[@dongjunwang]

I am so amazed that the media care so much about China, while report about Yemen is rarely provided by them in several years of disaster. Recently, on KZbin, what I saw about Yemen is only an advertisement from a non-profit organization. This world is hilarious.

[@oceanwave4502]

My observation: India and Japan share one thing: they mimic western model quite much, expecting that they'll one day be powerful like the West. But we know in the last 2 decades, the West has been on a steady decline (especially after Crisis 2008). This Covid pandemic wreaks havoc on western countries AND countries that are vastly inspired by the West (in this case, India and Japan). As a result, India/Japan have been hit hard, too. Western model encourages "laissez faire" and effectively ties the hand of government; the social structure is also weak; the political structure is fragile and superficial with blaming, finger-pointing and short-term visions. In contrast, China is doing extremely well, which potentially damages India/Japan's very identity; it's like: "so it means we mimicking the West turn out to be wrong after half century. The time on the implementation can't be paid back. There is no way back". Therefore, India/Japan have vast incentives to demonize China's achievement, even from their top leaders, which will trickle down to small person, like Yuki.

[@shauncameron8390]

Japan is one of best off concerning Covid-19. Ditto for Hong Kong, South Korea, Singapore and Taiwan who also operate on a decidedly Western economic model.

[@niceu6983]

​@Chris Carrasquilla Depends on when the U.S. biological laboratories release them.

[@johntucker7616]

I thought the US was in extreme poverty, no Universal healthcare no lifelines

[@CJ-re7bx]

Really, no lifelines huh? Ever heard of section 8 housing or foodstamps? Also the ACA does provide almost free healthcare for low income individuals.

[@uglyamerican10]

@@CJ-re7bx Really, the section 8? waiting list is 3+ years, food stamps? not enough, you only can buy rice and bean. I work in the homeless shelter and I know.

[@CJ-re7bx]

@@uglyamerican10 I'm not saying it couldn't be better, but it is definitely better than what China has to offer.

[@VL-inquisitor]

Forget the World Bank's extreme poverty measurement. Discard the sustainability issue. Just look at the approval ratings of CCP vs governments in the West, and you will see whether or not CCP has done a good job on poverty alleviation. Don't get me wrong on this, use the surveys of approval ratings performed by the Western institutions if you'd like. All these prove one thing, China has achieved a miracle in lifting poverty and it is working on it. No one gets to say how well the government has done for them, except its citizens. This is the golden rule.

[@KGopidas]

Excellent presentation wonderful journalism

[@Martin-tl6zb]

I wonder why most of the world question Chinese internal policies and always comparing them to the USA! China has made significant strides towards development in 70 years than the USA did in centuries. my opinion

[@Blaze6432]

Yes. Primarily thanks to the fact that most modern technology hasn't been around for "centuries"

[@Martin-tl6zb]

@@Blaze6432 True, also realise that each technology has its relative challenges and hurdles which make it similarly as hard as it was back then.

[@etroll6451]

@@Martin-tl6zb really? you think driving a car is as hard as having to walk? China will be compared to USA till China wants to replace USA in the world order

[@CDang-ms6dc]

They are all correct. The difference is only the different realities people focus on. China is neither evil nor benevolent. No doubt, China thinks it's bringing development to Xinjiang just like what it is doing with other parts of the country, but that does not negate the fact many people there are forced to abandon their 'backward' way of life and go through a painful assimilation process.

[@pinguinocomentador9743]

@@CDang-ms6dc oh... just like westeners did

[@ldon4002]

It is a great achievement already. This is a domestic policy. Why should other countries and agencies have the right to make the final evaluation?

[@keosan]

Because the CCP are bragging about it in a world context. Bullshit is bullshit

[@leratomoses25]

From CCP representatives there’s too much propaganda that is been sold in this interview.

[@laurensanor6497]

Something America should do

[@TheLatiosnlatias02]

US goes down the sink hole

[@unreliablenarrator6649]

China doesn't claim to have eliminated poverty, just extreme poverty. Certainly it has missions of rural and urban poor, and certainly it needs more work and investment to improve. The question is if it is doing that or not.

[@tyko2686]

Teach them how to fish not just giving a fish to eat

[@freakmoister]

Just do more automation and robotics to solve labor force issues

[@fearhungerpride]

Cheaper to import labor from India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. Besides, if they die, AJ won't report it.

[@mikhailvarkovsky4150]

KZbin found a way to bypass ad block and display 2 black screens with failed urls ads, 5 second each. Time wasters, as I call it. Adblock for youtube helps a bit but you still get a slight interruption. Does anybody else get them? This video is full of ads

[@Blaze6432]

yep I still get them and KZbin isn't operating for free. They can put up whatever they like. Don't like it don't watch?

[@leungpaul9401]

There is a way to bypass the ads, without paying a penny.

[@seanyao7425]

When I was 10 year old I had never thought in my dreams that I could own a car. Now I drive a Mercedes and my daughters are arguing where to go for the summer vacation, Hainan which a beautiful island, or Wuyishan, a mountain getaway. My younger daughter is 8 years old and she’s using her second passport. Yes I am way better off than most Chinese people and yes I hate the ccp propaganda too( it’s disgusting). Still, in my little village on the east coast people’s lives are 天翻地覆--I don’t know how to say it in English, I mean huge change, like upside down. Thanks for your concern about China, and thank you for criticizing for us not being perfect, but we are doing ok.

[@ramhari1822]

When you bring human right issue when peoppe are starving is quite something. I would rather work 14 hours a day than see me and my family starve everyday.

[@Blaze6432]

And why are people starving and not having fair wages ?

[@ramhari1822]

@@Blaze6432 People are not starving. That's the point.

[@pinguinocomentador9743]

@@Blaze6432 tell me white savior. Why people in congo don't have fair wages?

[@celine7511]

@@pinguinocomentador9743 sorry, they don’t consider homeless people in their country as a human beings. Only rich belongs to humans.

[@faisalraihan4014]

19:57 is the best part of the show! Lmao

[@GuilhermeAlbani]

"how's that working?" get reckt lol

[@Redmanticore]

@@GuilhermeAlbani capitalism brought wealth to china. not communist party. communist party merely loosened the restrictions on free trade.. now they pat themselves on the back on thing they can only limit... free trade works fine without the party and brings wealth, no middle-man needed.

[@sigerlion8608]

@@Redmanticore China has ALWAYS been pro capitalism. Ever heard of the Silk Road from 2200 years ago? The Ming and Tang dynasties made China the richest nation in the world during their time. Capitalism is not an idea brought in by the Western democracies lol. Of course a strong governing body is needed to "limit" trade. After the Western countries traded drugs to China for silver and gold and then banded together to destroy and rob China of their wealth, a strong hand is needed to navigate the modern capitalism ways so China won't be taken advantage of and looted again.

[@AmusingMusic]

20:43 lmaoo

[@tonyfuller8894]

China is going to be number 1 economy soon

[@AlmightyAaron0423]

Around 10 years

[@nanahuang8623]

China has more poor people than the US even has people. Making $500/year is nothing to be bragging about. How many vacations homes and offshore bank accounts do the CCP leaders have? Dare you even ask?

[@garyish]

Unless China becomes 5 times the US economy, the average Chinese will be quite poor than the average American

[@johnfrancisco1851]

keep dreaming

[@robertohosea]

The west in a nutshell : blame China for everything

[@subrotonag214]

Like what ?

[@TheLatiosnlatias02]

West in a nutshell: colonise, invade other countries and cause murder and mayhem there

[@subrotonag214]

@@TheLatiosnlatias02 But that is human behavior though. Before 1945, people would boast about how many territory they have invaded and how many slaves they got.

[@tantyhayoo]

you monitor, stop interrupt the speakers, so they can explain.

[@windsong3wong828]

Most of office clerks in Malaysia only earns USD300 a month. Are they in poverty ? USA can say that’s peanuts. You need to be stupid to apply USA earnings to Malaysia or to China. Look at the poor lives …..free house, no cars etc….. Al Jazeera shouldn’t be biased …..

[@gilbert8156]

suprised that microsoft technical support team is not in the comment section.

[@blum-wong7394]

Yuki,I think you miss the point by politicising everything. You should do your homework better to appreciate the immense task of alleviating poverty. You should not grap the issue of human rights at every opportunity you can. Try to live in these poverty stricken area for a week and you will have another perspective.

[@MG-rh4zo]

I'm packing up to go fishing at Senkaku Island for a month. Too poor to buy fish at my regular wet market.

[@rahulborntobewild]

What China has done is incredible. Amazing economy and rise. But poverty gone is extreme even Western Europe now has poverty

[@kengsenchong4010]

Gymnastic semantics aside, fundamentally it's about putting enough daily food on the family table. Peace.

[@fortdetrickvlab4838]

Chinese poverty lines (yearly income in RMB (Yuan)) 1986 ¥206 1997 ¥604 (

[@duba6612]

This is not poverty it is village or rural life style.

[@lukerabin5079]

China only had 100 million in extreme poverty? So 1.1 billion were out of poverty? Why has China been able to avoid responsibility for so many of its issues in the world based on the number of people who it claimed were impoverished?

[@lukerabin5079]

@@lagrangewei it’s not just the IMF. China is one of the world’s most successful polluters but sis held to a lower standard because of its high poverty rate

[@lolollolol1436]

@@lukerabin5079 umm China's population is 4 times that of the United States and yet per capita pollutes less than the US AND it is the world's factory to boot. So your argument makes no sense.

[@lukerabin5079]

@@lolollolol1436 and what is the basis for that? How many days are American cities at a level 5 air quality index? Hmm? The metric used to make your statement is specious to say the least. Much along the lines that anyone working an hour a month is employed, not partly employed.

[@frankspencer-zk6ef]

American people do not even understand what communism is today! I have not seen anyone get something that's so well documented, studied, and written about, so horribly wrong. The American people don't understand what communism is, they hear the word "communism", and that's it for the American. It must all be wrong, must be brutal, must be criminal, and must be murderous. I find reading the Americans talking about socialism and communism fascinating stuff. They just don't understand that they're actually supporting what is wrong with this world, and all the while demonising something that was thought about as a new way of life, to avoid all these problems we all find ourselves with today. I often find myself asking myself, just how is it possible in 2021, for anyone, let alone an entire society, to get something that's so easily looked up so easy to learn all about, so completely wrong? Communism has been studied, looked at from every view point imaginable, and is so well written about, yet still, so many have it completely wrong. But do you know what's even worse? And this I really do struggle to understand, but even when you take the time to tell these people what communism is, they'll ignore it? And they'll call you a liar, and they'll carry on saying the same things over and over again! Even when you show them the truth, they'll continue to repeat what they've always wrongly thought. And that to me, is nothing short of outright idiocy on a whole brand-new level of stupidity, a level I really don't believe this world has ever witnessed before. Communism is a system, a way of life that's meant to be fair and equal to all. Why would anyone want to be against that? I just wonder what must be going through their own minds, as they all sit and type what they think of communism, yet they so obviously don't understand, that pure communism is as free as it gets. Why would they all want to demonise something that they so clearly don't even understand? They've all been brought up being taught communism Is bad, brutal, and tyrannical, when the truth is, the only thing wrong with communism was the so-called corrupt leaders/dictators, who abused their positions of power and trust they were only supposed to use to bring in the reforms needed, and to lead the people to a pure communist society/state. And therefore, obviously, it was those corrupt criminal leaders/dictators who destroyed the whole concept/Idea/philosophy of communism from its beginning, meaning It was never even given a chance! We've never seen a pure communist society. None that tried ever got there. It ended up seeing the people who showed any discontent, brutally punished, murdered, by basic criminals. Communism is not responsible for any of what those criminal dictators did, and nor are the people who lived through it. The entire ideology of communism OPPOSES those leaders actions! But quite astonishingly, they don't even understand that by hating communism (something they really do not understand) is exactly the same as them supporting capitalism (that's created the worlds 1% elite). That's how brainwashed these American people really are today, they'd rather have a 1% of the population, with over 90% of the wealth, than they would see the people much more equal? It's utter madness. And it's all due to such a serious lack of any sort of education, and on such an enormous scale, as all Americans think the same. China has a Communist government, yet they run an almost capitalist system (only with one big difference, a good difference). China have been able to watch and learn from all the mistakes made by the West, giving them a massive advantage to get things right without having to make the same mistakes as the (we're soon going to find out) failed West. The biggest difference you'll find between the West and China, is that China will never allow anyone, any company, business, or corporation to become influential to the leading party. Nothing and nobody will ever be able to dictate government policy. Not by having lots of money, or by being a billion dollar business or corporation, and not by being a member of the Elite as we've created and now got in the West. In the West, we've created a 1% of the population, with over 90% of the wealth, and that has seen the power shift away from governments, and into the hands of individuals and corporations! And as we're very soon going to find out, that has seen us in the West fail. China knows this, and that alone will see China succeed, as it's seen us in the West fail. Americans and even many Brits should all watch a film you can find for free online called "Young Karl Marx", it's a great way to begin to learn all about communism, and the reality rather than the Anti Communist US governments policy of propaganda and outrageous lies. You learn how and why the entire concept came about and why it became so popular, yet today it must be the most misunderstood political system in the world's history. And mainly due to the massive enormous actions of propaganda and outrageous lies told by western governments, who feared for themselves and feared losing all they were creaming from societies with criminal ill-gotten gains. Massive expenditure was used to suppress and demonise communism, and so much so that even the name communism itself, creates fear in some today.

[@frankspencer-zk6ef]

So feel free to tell us all about these big bad deeds you must see coming from China? Did you see the same thing coming from Libya? Or maybe Iraq? No?, well how about the Ukraine? Syria maybe? Is there actually something mentally wrong with you maybe? Do you see China invading countries all over the world slaughtering 50+ million innocent civilians as they do so? Nope, I don't. Do you see China supplying weapons to terrorists or arming criminals in Ukraine? Nope, I don't. Do you see China stealing other countries resources while invading, murdering, and stealing all over the world? Nope, I don't. Do you see China building illegal military bases in others countries to steal and syphon off their oil? Nope, I don't. But very clearly you see something about China you don't like? Tell us all about it? But remember while doing so, not to get caught up involved in the reams of propaganda we see coming from the USA endlessly? But the facts are all we should all only be interested in, right? You see all that above?, well it all comes from the USA! The world's global monster, that's so out of control today, the country needs removing from this planet? Yet I read you accusing and suggesting China are bad, while you say nothing about the real enemy of mankind today?, maybe you'd care to explain that incredibly uneducated and extremely stupid opinion you clearly hold?

[@slurpii4669]

I mean china's gdp per capita is very low what were you expecting?

[@aadsfawgwefaf7118]

Thank you Al Jazeera for putting together a great panel.

[@yogi9631]

It's probably unwise to measure extreme poverty via $$ you make a day or a year. Put simply: 1. Have a roof over your head. 2. Have opportunity for a job. 3. Have food on the table. 4. Have running electricity, running water and plumbing/working toilets. 5. Have reasonable general health care. 6. Have a chance for education.

[@Rod-bp8ow]

The People's Republic of China, has been active in its principles of poverty eradication and to rise from mud into success.

[@migovas1483]

they rise from living on the mud, to living on the mud praising the CCP...

[@shaduck06]

ZeroCovid is sending many folks back into extreme despair

[@oscargalindo7920]

Their's no extreme poverty in the USA. China does have so much poverty

[@oliverstone9681]

What is Yuki talking about?😒

[@oliverstone9681]

I agree with Eynar.👍👍👍

[@americameinyourmouth9964]

$1.90 extreme poverty level is already PPP adjusted based on the 15 poorest countries in the world. Since China is not in the 15 poorest countries in the world its extreme poverty threshold is higher not lower. The USDA estimates a person in the US in 2011 would need $5.04 a day to not starve which is around $6.23 a day in 2021.

[@mystictraveler8642]

I mean what country in the west has done this?

[@taiwancanhelp6582]

@Robert Morel Why there are so many homeless people in NewYork? What US government do to help them?

[@frankm4349]

@Robert Morel how much do you make? $50?

[@nct9466]

Poverty in China took 2 things, 1: a world willing to invest and cooperate. 2: the CCP pulling back their stupid rules so the people had a chance to prosper. Poverty comes due to governments rules (dynasty and CCP and really both are just the same old same old, allowing investment from “non Chinese” was the main thing”

[@mystictraveler8642]

@@nct9466 well that goes for anybody actually. America wouldn't have gotten this rich if they didn't go beyond their domestic circle. Allowing "non-american" investment is what helped America. They wouldn't be where they are if it wasn't for non-americans. But what you're saying is partly true. This dynasty and CcP. You're thinking is kind of old-fashioned but I get your point.

[@henli-rw5dw]

@@nct9466 No. It takes labor. They sent a ton of people into the country side, house-by-house and figured out what works for each family. It's mind blowing really. Unimaginable.

[@Zephyx_Creator]

With all the terrible continuous floods suffered by China because of equally incessant downpours, resulting in the devastation of agricultural and other important products/crops, plus the deadly pandemic that slowed down the world's economy, China has been almost reduced into extreme poverty. Millions of chinese were struggling against poverty.

[@gizroc]

I like how the beijing guy spins it in favor of ccp. Even though all the ccp did was lower the standard of extreme poverty. I dont think lowering standard of poverty helps poor chinese poeple, and then say ccp solved the property crisis in china. Lets help all the poor chinese families. They deserve good bathrooms

[@noeswantra2295]

@Evan Gelical how bout you? Have you ever been to Rural Hunan, Yunnan, Guangxi? Or only to sparkling cities of Shanghai and Guangdong?

[@fortdetrickvlab4838]

watch CGTN or CCTV in youtube, do not imagine or believe in West Media, pls.

[@gizroc]

@@fortdetrickvlab4838 @@fortdetrickvlab4838 that just a mouth piece of the ccp, that doesnt tell real story of china. We need to help those poor families that dont have enough food or basic plumbing like water in rural part of china. Please share awareness. Love from america

[@fortdetrickvlab4838]

@@gizroc If America donot drop bombs, the people in the areas have to thank GOD.

[@gizroc]

@@fortdetrickvlab4838 yea the old war hawks are back now. Trump was a very peaceful president compared to his predecessors, he barely didn't do any drone strikes. CcP better be careful, the warhawks in washington will make up an excuse to start war. So ccp better stop its action in south china sea. I want peace not war.

[@wric01]

All residents have a roof over their heads in communism. Poverty? I don't think so. Those that chose to stay in remote regions without roads is of their own choice/lifestyle. The West views that as poverty. (Price of freedom to be exact.).

[@shaduck06]

USA has no extreme poverty.usa has subsidies

[@jko1854]

The guy is so not sleeping when the President speaks. 😂😂😂 2:28 mark. Find Waldo !

[@magtazeum4071]

lol

[@weiweiliu8416]

Believe me, it is hard to keep awake when you actually hear these hours long tedious rubbish speech.

[@seekfunk3536]

whatever you do, there are always these haters jumping out to give sacastic or questioning comments. "yeah, you've done it, but is it sustainable?" "yeah, you did lift 100 millions people out of extreme poverty in 10 years. but isn't your standards 10% lower that the INTERNATIONAL standard (so the whole thing doesn't count)". Shame. I don't see the value of this conversation.

[@hyperphil9782]

Japan small country depend so much on west while china huge country depend on its own people that's achievements specially in space exploration

[@Blaze6432]

China doesn't trade with the west? You do realize that their economy was stunted until they started trading with the US right? Today the Americans are the most important trading partner for China. Learn to read before commenting.

[@hyperphil9782]

@@Blaze6432 why don't your country cut off the trade once and for all

[@CJ-re7bx]

@@hyperphil9782 Im sure if it were that easy, the US would. Unfortunately, too much manufacturing has been moved to China, so the US is stuck with this system for now. We will see where this goes.

[@hyperphil9782]

@@CJ-re7bx the easy way out stop using the national security issue

[@CJ-re7bx]

@@hyperphil9782 and then what? Have nothing on the store shelves for years? That isn't feasible.

[@linbj2008]

the anchor was so rude when he interrupted the guest speaker.

[@grospipo20]

So moderating a conversation is rude really?

[@level1selamat155]

No. He must be in control

[@TAL142]

It is easy to criticize when you live in ivory house. Consider China also provide infrastructures, housing, health care, and education for the poor, it is just not about money. So this clearly show the hypocrisy of the west especially US and Europe. On one hand, you criticize to say China is poor and need to do more to help the poor. On the other hand, you say China is rich and should open up for US and European market. And China should pay for this and that. At least they made a real effort in eliminating extreme poverty. US still has over 19 million in extreme poverty. India probably has even more.

[@aburubel8648]

China is great nation...

[@Athrunwong]

Poverty as no longer starving.

[@kenrie20022]

Best panel.

[@Drmicky141]

In my opinion it's 3 square meals a day and roof over your head that doesn't leak.

[@sanramcruise9695]

Measurements are to done in perfection with agriculture science where the forest tress cut down for farming materials oxygen levels should be on right availability clarity seems to on peak people love on nations pride

[@youngz13o]

I LOVE Einer, he is SO fed up with all the Western institutional BS that are completely disconnected from the rest of the world

[@SerenityM54L2SAM5L5N1]

The person from Beijing keeps on cutting off, almost bullying and attacking the correspondent from D.C. Is it that hard to keep it respectful? Tacky to see.

[@ernestjacob1991]

because the lady was saying rubbish

[@garyish]

Einar is a known lackey of CCP. Look at all the videos where he is.. I am surprised his nose isn’t brown with xi jjnglings 💩 on it

[@newborn6]

He is very opinionated, especially when come to topic about how China operates internally. I believe he knows his stuff, but easy to show his emotions.

[@paultaithelegendnguyen8891]

Provide their people a place to live doesn't mean their life can be better if there will be no job to work, so how they can support their family ?

[@lillylee3817]

Achievements are achievements. Achievements are only achieved via actual actions. Chinese government should be applauded for that. As for comparison stop measuring with your yard stick. Chinese standards are not western standards.

[@charptho]

For all the people that have never been to China: there is no such things as slum or slum people in this country. It does not mean that people are not suffering from poverty, even if actually all the basics needs (especially food) are fulfilled. The Mingong are also completely left over and constitute the urban poors class. They aren't even in the unemployment statistics. The middle class is till growing even if the labor class (which serve them) is getting poorer.

[@sharadjain2463]

How much and where they are ? Just for knowledge

[@katmorgo1892]

My question is how does resettlement effect cultural legacy, identifying and cohesion.

[@gods-world2024]

Some cultural legacies should vanish, Nobody can save them.

[@pacificocean9682]

There was no point in bringing the geisha woman as a panelist

[@fioraz1988]

We're talking of 12 yuan per day. You can get yourself a very small bottle of water and a piece of bread with those money. I think that even if you double to 24 yuan per day your life is still extremely poor. Lowering the bar is not the solution for celebrating achievements.

[@wongcy713]

Questions on sustainability of programme? Questions on human rights over PROVERTY eradication? What type idiots are we dealing with? No other nations even try a total poverty eradication program . Setting a target and making that target is a head start and that very very very much better than nations that sit on their fat arses and had done zilch. Sustainable or not be f. Like Western saying " half a bowl better than nothing". WHO standard vs China definition of poverty? Sustainability? That raining on the parade. Western media alway used this to cast aspirations/ doubts on China. Instead of doubting China definition of poverty why don't we drill down on WHO numbers? What are the sources of WHO numbers? Let me give my take on this issue. Five to six years when I was looking to sponsor some poor kids ( organised by NGO and or charities) and I found that sponsoring a child in Africa cost 30 % to 40% than sponsoring a child from Myanmar Mongolia Philippines. My question then was why/ how come? African nations much poorer than Myanmar or Mongolia and the sponsorship for African should be lower. ( in the end I selected a child from Myanmar because I don't see how helping child in Africa could be more charitable than helping a child in Myanmar - my resources are not unlimited and I had to choose) Now it dawn on me that there probably a huge markup/ cut ( probably as administration charges) by all those Western NGO charities organising those sponsoring and also explains why Western media unwilling to drill down those number or try to explain the disparity. Western world always like to trumpet those "disruptors" saying how they made things progress. However whenever that disruption involve China they changed their tune. Blinken ( US State Secretary) accuse China of not following the established rules ( I can think of the vaccine diplomacy issue) and called on developed nations to gang up on China ( making G7 a mafia grouping taking on a newcomer elbowing into their territory.) That accusation probably came about because US and EU expecting to make a killing from selling Covid vaccine at a premium after cornering most of the supplies for the coming two years and China donation of vaccine and sale to developing and undeveloped nations costing their PHARMA companies hundred of billions in profits.

[@randall_c_6163]

Yeah Yuki why was it that you only recognised his point after he mention it. Shouldn't it be a factor of your argument in the get go? You go and read world bank reports on poverty reduction in china, PPP ie purchasing power is mention multiple of times.Yeah Yuki why you trash talking the very work these people did to help people less fortunate than you.

[@ezekielmanson86]

"China. A place where there are lies everywhere” --Oscar Best Director winner Chloe Zhao.

[@lisa.e5776]

@Perla Lopez Gomez Every country got prostitutes. Prostitution is legal in Thailand. Ukraine has been a country of prostitutes due to years of Wars. Poverty-stricken countries can't help themselves.

[@drleishaobo]

It's a overly generalized statement, it is not a constructive criticism at all, I don't like it.

[@chanalex8358]

Ezekiel Manson made lie everywhere, He may want to be Best actor of Oscar.

[@gurusukumaran1304]

Simple three time food a home with 600 square feet education for children that is the minimum standard anywhere in the world

[@crankshaft5867]

Nope.

[@coughingpenguin4346]

lol

[@joelferguson7030]

Have you ever looked into an open.septic tank that's what you smell like

[@lawrencepak1917]

Trust US to raise human rights issues. What bullshit!

[@Gino6882]

From the lady in shanghai never a criticism to her government only nice kind words. Not credible. The description of China as an happy importer of foreign labour..rubbish. They will grant them rights.

[@SerenityM54L2SAM5L5N1]

North Korea should start to adopt the Chinese, Russian and Vietnamese style economic system, a free market economy with closer foreign cooperation rather than a full-on planned economy with excessive control. Wealth can't effectively be created in any other way. But Kim Jong Un's totalitarian regime is naturally afraid of change (might lose their grip on power, the people may wake up), even though they've likely been pressured by their friendly allies, China, Iran, Russia and others. Congratulations to China for wiping out absolute poverty. Rejecting Maoism was certainly a clever step.

[@enriqueojito]

Nor in Colombia... You need $10.0 US daily for min salary.

[@nanahuang8623]

Colombia has eradicated poverty then, congrats.

[@enriqueojito]

@@nanahuang8623, According to China $1.90 US is out of poverty..... So, do the math if that stament apply to any third world country. 🤔

[@nanahuang8623]

@@enriqueojito Xi the deadly magician.. I guess he's not so good at math or reality.

[@enriqueojito]

@@nanahuang8623, You know how the Chinese Premier controls the entire country.

[@nanahuang8623]

@@enriqueojito Yes, he was in charge of spreading the virus, in charge of increasing pollution, and in charge of the most executions as all other countries combined, most journalists in jail and also guilty of looking like a fat smiling bear all the time.

[@katmorgo1892]

Are human rights respected

[@letlho83]

China has done remarkable 👏🏼

[@al-alaqal-hikmah272]

Assalamualaikum,,,, Salam From INDONESIA

[@VechoBryant]

The humanity right concern about relocation is really pointless. Some people live in very remote place far away from civilization. Relocating them is better for their children, since they get connected to modern civilization and better facility. In this way, they are exposed to the modern society and they could catch up with the world. If we left them where the are, they would be ignorant to the outside world, which is not the right thing to do.

[@fortdetrickvlab4838]

Many lands are desertification in china (just like other countries), so have to be relocated to a place planned to future development.

[@VechoBryant]

@K M Believe me, ignorance is not a merit. For them, it is maybe too late to have a full modern life. But what about their children and theire children's children? Are they doomed to live in isolation forever? I think not. Very few people would want to live in moutain and be a peasant, after they grow up in a modern city.

[@gvbrandolini]

Interessante...

[@lordlee6473]

Well, I’m sure the Japanese guest is not biased. Wink, wink

[@gulabmaurya]

Today I learnt that China has no democracy. It's so sad.

[@utobesuckslol6687]

I know in India you have layers of cow manure on the streets plus the "fake democracy" you are trotting out.

[@pykejack6198]

Democracy cannot feed 1.4 billion Chinese people, but the Chinese government has accomplished this difficult task. Compared to India, I prefer pragmatic Chinese to arrogant Indians.

[@gulabmaurya]

@@pykejack6198 Chinese numbers are always fake. They can do it as they are not a democracy. Besides this, please note India is not a torch-bearer of democracy. Countries like China should not be compared only with India as far as democracy is concerned. There are other democratic countries as well.

[@roylloyd5898]

All bullshit changing the definition of poverty doesn't change what poverty is, especially if it is your own definition?

[@vizpal]

...and I have walked on the moon !! LOL !!