How It Feels To Play Black Panther In Season 1

[@mr.satire6867]

I’m glad I’m not the only BP main who’s struggling rn, I’m not beating the tickle monster allegations

[@Obsidian-ut4lu]

Bro if I get called the tickle monster one more time

[@ORCXray]

i call myself the tickle monster lmao, im feeding the allegations too :D

[@roninraccoon1379]

They buffed all of BP's counters. They haven't fixed the no regs. They nerfed him without any reason. I won't give up on him because I love playing this character so much because of how fun he is but man this season BP feels so underwhelming against the triple support meta.

[@crackedblack1410]

The devs hate BP so much man

[@mordredkingslayer7508]

​@crackedblack1410 its because people bitch about mercing them

[@ramsessanchez2098]

Indeed man I love playing him but now is obnoxious. I'm maining rn Mr fantastic and is kinda fun tho

[@MboyCommander]

He has counters?? 😂😂

[@pole8740]

@@MboyCommander namor shuts him down

[@simplypablo6506]

The tickle monster

[@roninoce9128]

I hit gm on BP last season, character felt fluid and like I was actually a threat in game. With the plethora of buffs to BP's counters, triple support meta and Sue being added to the game + BP nerfs, it feels so goddamn rough playing him. Oh they have a Rocket, C&D and Sue, guess I aint killing them. Oh, they have Namor + Luna? Guess I'm getting fried. The no regs as well man are just insanely rough. BP used to be feared, now hes the tickle monster. Feels rough...

[@karkatsg]

the pain...

[@UnprofessionalTony]

Man thank you for this video Karkat. I go through games like this and think "damn maybe I should stop playing BP I am shit with him" so to see a pro struggle in literally the exact same ways I struggle with him in so games really helps to see

[@karkatsg]

I gotchu! never back down never give up!

[@joyride6062]

This guy isn't a pro lmao 😂

[@oSellout]

@@karkatsgi can have 8 great bp games wit a 80% dash rate but once i lose… everyone ina lobby calls me the worst 😭😭

[@Perfection-given-form]

@@joyride6062He’s literally one of the best black panthers in the world

[@Cqntemplate]

Triple support and the no-regs just take the fun out of BP imo, and the couple of BP one tricks I’ve run into in high GM/celestial struggle just as much as I do

[@no-un1ms]

Triple support takes the fun out the entire game

[@DeadHeroRob]

I'm in platinum and I feel like I'm throwing now if I pick bp. Triple support area heals cut down engagement opportunities so much.

[@Fightheavens]

@@no-un1msthe triple healer meta needs to be nerfed

[@crackedblack1410]

Triple support meta meanwhile Panther gets nerfed

[@yondaimesin]

@@Fightheavens worst part is all they have to do is hard nerf their energy regen. The ults are the problem and being able to have them up basically two times in a fight is crazy.

[@jamesdaniels1157]

I feel this as a BP player. Moments of greatness and some moments where they have your number and you feel useless

[@samurai_panda]

Going against Luna Namor Storm Iron Man and Penny is absolute hell as Black Panther 😭

[@ezalby998]

I've just started playing bp and I feel you, sue genuinely feels impossible to dive some times. She just goes invisible every time I try and just pushes me around so I can't land my refreshes like I want to, its sooooo annoying. Anyways great vid as usual, 100k just around the corner TRUST 🗣

[@danielarcila274]

Also the push its really annoying

[@Volt_Fortnite]

Whenever something like this happens, I like to take a second and go back through the guides I've watched on panther and in general then take my time looking for a good encounter before initiating

[@BSqwerty]

the only sane commenter. imagine actually seeing what you are doing wrong and making adjustments. well said

[@Lil_das]

i do this too

[@Volt_Fortnite]

@@BSqwerty thx

[@jxlen0473]

Honestly why even play Bp rn no regs are aids

[@milesmorales-intothespider9861]

I do the same thing.

[@eur0dyne]

you're the one that made me want to start playing panther, game became 1000x more fun, thanks !

[@tnargs2693]

Same

[@DiaIect]

The first half of this video was tough to watch, but seeing you fight through tilt and then bring your play up to par was really nice. Awesome vid man! Wish they would fix no regs though.

[@karkatsg]

thank you so much for watching!

[@DanielMiceli-c2x]

This was way too relatable and funny to watch

[@kennybennett3064]

Bro black panther is so frustrating for those who can play him and love that style. You do so much work to the back line supports and if you don’t drop them but you get dropped your team are on you instantly to switch. I find I get so many ghost dashes and he really is the tickle monster. It’s so frustrating. On the other hand you can play Squirrel and just spam nuts at through a gap 😂. I subbed just cause I felt the Black Panther pain.

[@karkatsg]

lol i feel your pain

[@JackdeRipskaya]

It's ridiculous how strong the no skill DPS heroes are. Squirrel Girl, Wanda, Moonknight. These mfers does so much damage for just clicking at a random spot.

[@kennybennett3064]

@@JackdeRipskayaoh my god they need re balancing

[@Fightheavens]

9:56 this was a really good sequence, just taking the time to find any marks and getting so much value

[@kevinr6510]

Why people have so much hate. Whenever I play bp and miss some dashes I'm done 🥲 people start to show their toxicity. The chat goes by cursing me . The very first thing is bp switch , u didn't deserve lord. Why there is so much hate for bp mains.

[@JeffCaseyTV]

This happened to me yesterday, I just turned tf up and at the end of the match the guy admitted he was wrong in chat.

[@nomad155]

A lot of kids talking sas cause they feel safe. Happens to me a lot but they obviously never played him so they don't know the difficulty and nerfs he got

[@tnargs2693]

Started playing him in season 1 after watching a couple of your videos, now he’s my main. If they ever buff him back up it’ll be a brand new day yall

[@karkatsg]

seriously, we will dominate

[@Camyu0]

they just dont know that this is unironically like 1/3rd of all games on BP

[@crackedblack1410]

They don’t care. For some reason the devs hate this African warrior soo damn much🙄

[@Camyu0]

@crackedblack1410 I think he's genuinely strong, it's just that his counters are a bit stronger right now

[@crackedblack1410]

@Camyu0 so You’re basically saying he’s weak, yes?

[@Camyu0]

@crackedblack1410 no, he is a menace to society without counters present

[@SilverShadow494]

@@Camyu0 "hes a really good character if the opponents dont play with their brains" applies to almost 99% of the roster

[@JeungYoo]

I'm trying to learn black panther rn and you're such a big help ty bro

[@karkatsg]

thank you for watching!

[@Woteeeee]

This game perfectly sums up whole panther gameplay, not really season 1 related. You make any mistake = you're dead. There were a lot of missed dashes in the beginning that you got punished for, but In the 2nd half, when you locked in and didn't miss dashes like that anymore, you basically steamrolled enemy team, even though they had 3 supports

[@cruxfeint614]

My man said imma crash out and went straight into the C&D bubble with Luna freeze, 🙈 that was beautiful and I have also done that more times than I care to count.

[@rohansensei5708]

3:29 I hate the collusion in this game

[@jasonruff1270]

dude I could cook up some sh*t in unreal engine and it would be smoother than this

[@Lil_das]

@@jasonruff1270 do it bro

[@atagen2186]

@@jasonruff1270this is some shit that was cooked up in unreal engine lol

[@jasonruff1270]

@@atagen2186 I know that, it ain't about what engine you use, it's about your coding skills

[@dorimeameno5514]

playing a dive character in triple support meta is just pure pain

[@toxicfox6867]

8:51 "Juggs, Jury, Executioner" -Karkat 2025

[@pizzarand]

Tbh it feels best to watch you play well. Some small mistakes make it more relatable

[@karkatsg]

that's definitely the goal :D

[@sebas_r3720]

Was there for the generational comeback loving the streams

[@karkatsg]

lfg!!! thank you!

[@klutzythecrab8665]

actually feels so good to see other ppl having the same struggles 😭

[@SpotlightFadeGaming]

Bro this makes me feel so human again omg so we all been stuck in a loop of Dagger Bubbles, invisible women jumps, the occasional mantis sleep, rocket giving JUUUUST ENOUGH health, magneto/hulk bubbles MAKING YOU FEEL LIKE YOURE TRIPPING , AND CONSTANTLY WAITING FOR ULTS TO BE OVER

[@andredubbs4854]

I think BP is receiving the genji treatment, where you need to be really careful on how you approach the enemy team since you can get countered by so many things.

[@vertici]

was a fun game to watch seeing you come back and stuff :D

[@Aku-co3st]

Hey man, appreciate all kinds of your content! People only hate just to hate. Keep up the good work, can't wait to see your streams!

[@karkatsg]

thank you so much!

[@theodosistarlas7300]

best panther educational content out there love the videos ( i stil can't play him but it's fun)

[@karkatsg]

thank you so much!

[@derrickblackmon420]

This is actually encouraging cause this happens a good bit to me. I came to the conclusion i cant play him in ranked and be the best benefit i can be to the team. I usually go mantis or penni .

[@shoopydoopy6062]

i have ZERO remorse solo ulting invisible woman whenever i see one

[@gale4811]

Can’t even have fun as bp now cuz of the triple support meta by the time you’re about to get a kill they’re healed to full and you’re outta cooldowns

[@oceansupply8106]

I really like you, you seem so humble. Much love bro

[@karkatsg]

thank you!!

[@Shinuchi33]

From what I’ve seen Bp either runs the lobby or fails to kill anything for the next 15 minutes no in between

[@karkatsg]

basically, yeah

[@etphonedome6595]

As a D1 bp main I understand the pain

[@popeneiad7968]

All of my Panther pains in one video

[@its_Criminal1]

I feel like Spiderman is in a better position as silly as it sounds. With the venom team up he at least has a quick one shot. BP doesn't do enough damage to power through 3 supports. I'm still managing with him in diamond 2 right now but it is a struggle compared to someone like Namor who's just free wins

[@notareinmain3502]

Just like how Genji was the funnest ow character, and how much blizz hated him. BP is the funnest Rivals character and the devs seem to also hate him.

[@karkatsg]

yep

[@Hexone_1]

hey karkat, doing a vid rn on bp and its nice to see people struggling as much as i am right now lol, this character is so difficult and they buffed everyone else, its hard out here but thanks for the content u make man

[@karkatsg]

thanks for watching!

[@ClapIsBack]

This is when the chat fills up with your bad teammates telling you to never play BP again

[@ccjacks3]

Fam, I thought I was absolute trash this season, but I've been watching your videos and have gotten much better. I even hit Lord....Despite this playing BP feels like an absolute pain in this meta. He truly is the tickle monster. Thanks for your content though; it inspires me to keep playing.

[@karkatsg]

thank you so much for watching!

[@MstarSmith]

Hey bud! Awesome content as per usual. I think we all appreciate how much you listen to your community, read the comments and then adapt it for your next content. Just for your own piece of mind - take everything with a grain of salt. On the internet and KZbin you'll never please everyone. Don't let it get to you. Your educational value is insane no matter what type of video you bust out ❤

[@karkatsg]

thank you so much for this! I appreciate it a ton

[@UriahAmason-mk9od]

Love the content man, keep it up

[@karkatsg]

thank you!!

[@dknightwon]

Great vid! Definitely been experiencing matches like these more often. Not sure If the buffs to other characters were too much or the nerf to BP was too much. Either way need to get in the lab more.

[@cura_annonae]

This was brutal to watch but also extremely honest and encouraging

[@karkatsg]

that's the goal!

[@GridM2]

I am not kidding that not fixing his shift no reg and nerfing his shields by half hasn't completly gutted this character

[@Donokyothelast]

Give panther Anti Heal on spear

[@karkatsg]

would be massive

[@gumbaalado1832]

heal reduction in his mark, he has 2 charges in this thing

[@Knight_90]

As an actual BP main if I see a bp jumping my backline we just ignore him because of how powerful healing is lol

[@exseraph-1344]

that solo ult was key to the comeback if we're being real

[@karkatsg]

insane mental reset

[@huh_civil]

People don’t understand that indirect nerfs are a thing. They just see the bp health nerf and are like “oh that’s not bad” but they don’t look at his obvious counters WHO got buffed this season 😭

[@karkatsg]

yeah 100% this. people and also the devs :/

[@PoliAstroN]

I was just trying to practice BP in quickplay earlier, and I was running into teams with Peni, Namor+Luna. I left the game and went to bed. The nerf was unwarranted

[@Ginger_666]

Damn, I just started the game and decided I wanted to main black panther but for some reason after following all tips and tricks I just couldnt get the kills I needed. Glad to know I'm not just bad at the game LOL

[@LongLiveDrakeoLongLiveSloBe]

As a person who doesn’t play BP I hate to play against him but so satisfying to watch

[@vfxfate]

In regards to the the conversational topic about montages, and if I understood correctly, the main deterring factor was the time needed as well as how much work it would take. Recently I've also been thinking that a Panther montage would be really cool while I've been playing him, and being a montage editor, I wanted to offer just that to you, a Panther montage and if you like it, to continue making them for you

[@iweetoddid2862]

This the real bp gameplay for ya

[@Squidaniel]

THE TICKLE MONSTER He needs a buff SO BAD

[@karkatsg]

agreed

[@JRMH-X]

I've never done BP ult for a single target more than I have this season. The worst part is, it often times feels just as satisfying as using it to make plays against multiple targets because of how "I'll take what I can get" playing BP has been recently Edit: what a relief it must have been to clutch that. I've also noticed that more often games start TERRIBLY but get better (if not end on a sour note) at the end as BP. Also, I've started to find more success in targeting rouge DPS than support or even helping the team with the enemy front line. Going for the support often ends with me doing a lot of damage that gets healed and I'm fortunate if I survive the interaction

[@meltingmello3654]

what a masterpiece of bp gameplay i just witnessed

[@OnaticYT]

im a spidey main but i used to play panther alot and still sometimes play him and both of them are just so frustrating to play and it doesnt help when my team does bad in general so its even harder for these heroes to do anything. You either get a crazy game or a rlly bad game where everyone flames you.

[@Catfood-g3q]

Amazing video as always keep going don't look back

[@karkatsg]

thank you!

[@besidesparadox4653]

DUDE I THOUGHT IT WAS ME WHO BECAME WORSE BUT IM NOT ALONE

[@fysx3942]

such a real video i wish i had your mental strength

[@slayah94]

was a BP OTP in s0, but i dont play him at all anymore, and it was the right call.

[@prodigy1540]

When you do the dash If the enemy is close to you Look more towards the floor so you don’t move that far away and it’s easier to get the second javelin hit. If you look completely down you don’t move at all

[@karkatsg]

lol I teach this in both the advanced panther guide and the mechanics guide

[@Terran0va_Plays]

Ok. Glad to see everyone else is struggling too. I feel like half the roster counters BP. Sure you can still win but, damn. So many boops, pulls, disappears and stuns out there it’s hard to play him.

[@matteomauriello7631]

Glad to see im not tge only one having problem playing him

[@sumayamohamed-k5y]

OUR TIME WILL COME

[@maliciousedge6182]

What made genjis dash strong was the straight line hitbox, panther has a problem of not only being horrible into 3 sups, but also his feet stop the dash on so many maps, it's annoying af because i cant dash like genji

[@JeffCaseyTV]

Yeah they really need to remove non-cursor environmental collision for his dashes.

[@FayezeSalihf]

Good to know I’m not the only one who felt shit playing Panther after the changes.

[@Sicknificant1]

I've been maining Ironfist and just made it to platinum and people always talk about how bad he is, but I tried Black Panther and bro i think yall have it worse.

[@Pyrogenesis]

"I'm black I can say that"😂😂 you do NOT wanna hear what moon knight gets called 💀💀💀

[@karkatsg]

bro was wildin lol

[@ultimatechris5954]

Black Phanter is the new king of Tickles Monster

[@PartOfARidge]

TRUE great points my goat

[@karkatsg]

u r my goat

[@Shadow28845]

I've been a bp one trick since release, and Istg this is how so many of my games go dog shit first 1/3 of the game then I clown on the lobby or I just get hard countered from the start and get little value or I turn on demon time and all the stars align and I do great. I've dubbed myself the #1 inconsistent panther😭

[@karkatsg]

how can you be the #1 inconsistent panther when I exist B)

[@weeboce]

As a fellow bp main. I would recommend banning something other than luna. Shes super easy to target as bp and can easily force her ult with just ur abilities alone. Also bp is alot harder this season without snowflake so having a snowflake on u all game would definitely help in these games

[@pioneershark2230]

The buff is to prevent namor's 3rd and deadliest turret, also to prevent luna ult, so a 2 in one

[@weeboce]

@@pioneershark2230 idk im currently celestial bp player and i think having a flake is more important than getting rid of that teamup

[@pioneershark2230]

@ i'm halfway through diamond, those are some pretty good points, will try it out and see if i like it or not

[@overpoweredjelly3513]

They buffed 15 characters while also nerfing Black Panther. That is why he feels weak. It works as a double nerf, one directed and one undirected.

[@IcyPepsMR]

Karkat, I feel your pain. I’m D1 black panther and I got to GM then dropped. I want to keep playing BP but in this elo everyone has the tools to counter us making it feel like I’m hanging my head against a brick wall to get one kill. Let’s talk about it sometime

[@misspelled3677]

we need to embrace the ticke monster persona

[@distantdream2002]

1:51 It was bucky's E ability, 1:47 slowed

[@number_1_solo_natlan]

i try bp this season and he is one of the worst dps i ever try the fact litterally any hero can counter him is so annoying

[@Darkboyj]

Any character is crazy I’m 1000% sure you don’t know what you’re talking about

[@number_1_solo_natlan]

@@Darkboyj im sure ur not a bp main bc i can now name a 7 character can counter him zithout open the game

[@pioneershark2230]

​​@@number_1_solo_natlan 7 isn't everyone, as a D2 bp main

[@number_1_solo_natlan]

@ ITS BC THAT S MEAN YOU WILL GET 3 OR 2 COUNTERS EVERY GAME

[@SilverShadow494]

@@number_1_solo_natlan what are the 7 characters you claim to counter him btw?

[@bj_0910]

Magneto or hulk shields blocking my resets...

[@chevinkennedy]

Bruh this makes me feel so much better about myself. Cause I play so hot n cold with him

[@karkatsg]

same!

[@allthingsfighting4518]

This is why I’ve been waiting for the matchup guide because I feel like everyone who I dive gets omega heals and lately Mr fantastic has been giving me major problems since he’s so tanky.

[@tempoaccla4041]

black panther doing venom damage with half his health and no proper shield lmfao

[@JohanFeick]

The tickle monster needs a buff, poor panther

[@Smokealldaybroos]

This game is slowing turning into overwatch. Buffing all the easy heros like junkrat, namor and squuirrel girl but nerfing the high skill cap heros like genji and black panther. Meanwhile you can just play psylocke which does everything better with a better ult. Really taking all the fun out of the game

[@df1enjoyer]

he feels quite situational atm, there are times he can feel strong but its just so inconsistent

[@africanpenguin3104]

Triple support all sticking with each other and no regs whilst adding more powerful counters and a nerf. It’s painful

[@RNDMGUY1232]

Everytime I dive in just to try and get one kill I have to use all my abilities and sometimes even my ult just to bait out there cooldowns and i die in the process to all the stuns they could possibly throw. This triple support meta is hitting bp hard😢

[@karkatsg]

its a hard knock life ;-;

[@kuur]

genuinely bro, i feel the same way with starlord like i can never get an ult off, and barely get kills unless my entire team focuses one dude because of triple support 💔💔💔

[@mikekingtaberna8917]

gl bro

[@bitghost4700]

I was pure BP for so long but recently swapped off cause the triple support absolutely sucks the fun out of it. I hate it because he's by far my favourite hero to play but his playstyle was made 10x harder due to the buffs to his counters and now the triple support. It's way too hard to get any value without dying now and his kit affords zero mistakes.

[@KimeGaeming]

I farmed 30k damage in 1 round with 2 kills as panther cause the other team had like nearly 200k heals over the match and 96k on one luna, tldr, triple supp is ass

[@genji-try-hard-_-5360]

Hey Karkat. I love the videos and you’re most likely better than me so u should already know this, but if I get focused and picked at least 2 to 3 times without getting a kill I’m swapping immediately bc it’s just not worth it at that point so maybe next time u play like this u could try switching! I don’t wanna sound disrespectful but swapping off dive really can help ur team if ur not playing the best

[@karkatsg]

lol I hear you, but we did end up winning! If I swapped to a character I was worse at, there's a chance I still dont contribute and we lose

[@genji-try-hard-_-5360]

@ that’s a good point. Keep up the good videos! Also u brought up a point about montages being really hard but they don’t have to be! U could totally do a montage that’s light on editing!

[@sopheakhin8303]

The reason im playing blackpanther bcuz he is my idol

[@stuartmccleary]

They need to revert the BP changes and maybe give him 25 more health. Fix the bug on regs. And I think it would be nice if he got healing reduction on his ult. Like yes you’re still a tickle monster but there will be a period where you can cleave an entire team. Out of all dps only Black Widows feels weaker. And I’m not sure it’s weaker just that no one has unlocked her potential yet.