How Jewel Survived Abuse and Betrayal | Season 2; Ep 14

[@blousug]

Jewel’s Pieces of You saved me as a 10 year old. I didn’t know it then, but I was being subjected to narcissistic abuse. I always had this connection to that album and now I know why. I will always consider Jewel my Earth Mother. She taught me emotional intelligence through her music. Thank you ❤️❤️

[@Orchids92]

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[@MaynardsSpaceship]

Wow. There's a reason I saw this today. I just had a blowout fight with my mother and it made me ask myself, "Certainly this banshee didn't raise me."

[@TallulahBelle3276]

Beautifully said. 💝🌹💝

[@MoonLitMews24]

Yes. This album has forever been close to my heart because the abuse and trauma I went through. The song about Adrian and the song Little Sister.. I would just lay there in tears.. dreaming of the day I would leave my abusive home.. thinking about all the ones I love who passed.. mrdr.. self-termination.. age.. I’m glad I’m still here.. I’m glad I’m living the life I would daydream about as a young girl wanting to escape. I’m so thankful.

[@aliciakwong1149]

Don't stop with Pieces of You. I literally heard one of her songs in my head dealing with my narcissistic sister recently and it helped me reframe my thoughts to see the truth. My voice is the same pitch as hers and I didn't realize how emotional I got when I sang songs from pieces of you. The first time my daughter heard me sing Jewel songs. She was a toddler and it scared her. But then the first concert she went to was jewel at about 8 or 9 in a small theater. She heard her warm up and then when she stepped out on stage all in white. My daughter gasped and said, " she's an angel."

[@elan007]

Jewel is an empath -- a bright light, a truth-seeker, a truth-speaker, a gem that spreads loving kindness and a higher consciousness. Excellent interview.

[@Barbara-em3zk]

A rare encounter with the mind of a genius. Raw and honest. A beautiful conversation.

[@angelaholmes8888]

Yep totally agree

[@heartheart5543]

Her book "never broken" (paperback and audiobook read by jewel) is mind blowing and hearbreaking (about her life)

[@juniperfall]

I just love her shift in the language around seeing anxiety and anger as a guide post rather than some kind of pathology or something negative. So beautiful.

[@cynthiaburrus255]

@asshatslovejohnnydeppjohnn8377 Sorry Dear. THAT WAS NEVER IN THE TRIAL. IT WAS SHE WHO PERSUED HIM THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE FOR NINE HOURS WHILE HE LOCKED BATHROOM DOORS AGAINST HER. HE WAS PROVEN NEVER TO HAVE BEEN THE AGGRESSOR. THAT WAS CLEARLY LAID OUT SUPPORTED BY WITNESSES AND PROVEN IN COURT IN VIRGINIA LAST YEAR. MEN TOO, ARE VISTIMS. JD WAS THE VIC.TIM OF HER AB.US.E. FOR YEARS. IT ALMOST UTTERLY DESTROYED HIM. IT IS RIDICULOUS TO BRING UNPROVEN ACCUSATIONS AGAINST HIM FOR WHAT HAS BEEN PROVEN OVERWHELMINGLY AS FALSE.

[@fineartlifestyling]

Wow I can’t believe Jewel’s life story. I never knew until now. She is so eloquent and poetic. She is truly a phoenix rising out of the ashes, what a beautiful role model!

[@heartheart5543]

You might want to read her book never broken (paperback and audiobook read by jewel) about her life story. Mind blowing

[@cecesmith6229]

Just an absolutely beautiful soul

[@LoverofSunflowernBees]

@@heartheart5543’ve listened to be apart of her book, read by Jewel, which should be done more often by other authors. Of their books. Audible is Awesome! I’ve listened to Jewel for 10 years. I heard her signing voice and songs and I was reaching a mental peace.. I was and am full of hope when I listen to her music and her her life story here. It’s a Beautiful gift to us all. I will finish her book but this tells me a lot about her childhood with her mother and father. I have a mother with Borderline Personality disorder or CPTSD and I love her but I need to get out of her house. I’ve been here way too long, in 2003 didn’t jewel says she stop talking to her mother. Stopped her relationship, it’s what I need to do only, my mom is putting a roof over my head and people think WOW what a blessing but keep in mind there is no love from her towards me in fact she wants me out, when she passes I will be homeless if I don’t find a place to go, she is giving this house to my estranged daughter. Because she has switched us. My mother is so abusive that she has switched us. My daughter has become her daughter. She is giving her everything, and her best friend her house. I live it. I don’t know if my daughter will allow me to keep living here once my mother is gone. But it’s not looking like it since she refuses to talk to me. It might be because my mother is here though and she is very jealous of our relationship we have had in the past. My daughter is overwhelmed and has been unloved too by my mother. No hugs from grandma and no help from grandma but just with money. No emotional support from Grandma. But here I am here mother and she is choosing not to be in my life either. It’s okay she is scared… to have a relationship with me. If you all listen to Dr. Kim Sage , she talks a lot about parents switching their kids for other people’s children and making those children there children. And dumping their own children. Betrayal and abandonment they do a lot. My mother isn’t a narcissist she probably has Borderline Personality Disorder and Autism. She should have never had children. And same goes for me. I had no idea how unhealthy I was or she was for 40 years of my life.

[@daCubanaqt]

I knew she was homeless when she was discovered, but dang her story is very intense and powerful!

[@robynburns2375]

I love that she says "I'm not broken". I always hate when I hear people referred to as broken. Bravo Jewell. 💚

[@NO-ib1ip]

Yes, I agree. I dislike it too. It reminds me of a covert narcissist ex friend. She wore it like a badge of honour, then boom 💥 she’d talk about being a warrior and being able to survive everything. It was exhausting listening to her. In the end I just couldn’t do it anymore.

[@BunnyWatson-k1w]

"But man is not made for defeat. A man can be destroyed, but not defeated."- Ernest Hemingway, The Old Man and the Sea.

[@helener7545]

I do believe you can be broken, although you can patch yourself together again. Everyone is unique in how they handle intense pain and loss.

[@calisongbird]

@@NO-ib1ipI know people exactly like that. It’s usually women, in my experience.

[@irritatedkitty7301]

​@calisongbird I don't believe it's just women. Jewels own father had issues. Believe men/males cope by being angry, aggressive and ashamed (the act of bringing the school lunch maybe gave him, his forgiveness for the day) but males deal with pain differently and if they admit the pain it shows weakness. Her took up drinking but finally quit in his sixties. A lot of years wasted drinking instead of seeking help. Agree to disagree

[@a.wilcox5690]

I am 65 and still on a lifetime journey of healing from narcissistic abuse from both parents and 3 brothers. It is a lifetime journey. I saw Jewel talk about her journey in SF a few years ago. She is so authentic. I was deeply moved. I have listened to all her music over the years. We are on a similar journey of healing. I appreciate so much her honesty about her own healing journey. The world needs her voice right now.💗

[@Sereme18]

How did you cope with a negative mother and three toxic brothers?

[@shilparathore3181]

❤

[@sandysouthward3635]

Yes. Her message is so powerful!

[@angelaholmes8888]

What jewel mother did to her is truly despicable

[@olgakim4848]

She probably believed, in her mind, she was fully entitled to her daughter's earnings. She was already making an exorbitant 50% as Jewel's manager. So I'm guessing it wasn't all about the money. Despicable, indeed. How do people like her live with themselves? How do they face their ugly mugs in the bathroom mirror every morning without being disgusted with themselves?

[@JulieWolfe-db8zb]

It is very easy for those people to do that. I know someone who’s been not paying taxes on bookmaking income for 40 years and covers the mayors office of a large city for a large newspaper. The number of families harmed by his shenanigans is huge and no one says or does anything about it. Humans are always incredible. Good for Jewel for self healing and for taking her time doing it, as well as for paying it forward.

[@jacquelynskye295]

Her mother is very good at inputing into the "relationship" what she knows the other person is starving for and her mother runs with it. She sure isn't cut out to be a real heartfelt mother. Not a real mother who cares about her child. I felt sick hearing about this mother. Jewel was like a dry sponge, so thirsty for water. Her mother offered her water but it was not a fresh source of water. Polluted water. I hope she stays away from that woman. That was a hard lesson for Jewel to absorb but she can be her own water source now. She is a beautiful flowing clear water source, like a small river cleansing itself over and through the river rocks. 💝❤

[@jennyferguson5583]

Wow- Great insight! I see a pattern! Mind F . Gaslighting, confusion. Thank you for This!

[@BunnyWatson-k1w]

And my guess is the courts could never recover any of the money she stole from her daughter.

[@BunnyWatson-k1w]

Jewel's mom sounds like a real piece of work. How do you go about stealing over $100 million from your own child?

[@sr2291]

Greed.

[@lynncrf]

Continuous long term planning and self justification.

[@JudeScott007]

It's not the amount that hurts, it's the theaft.

[@GabrielleP310]

Because her mommy is a narcissist‼️Everything is possible especially sick perverted poor boundary things for narcissists.

[@StellaArtnoir]

Greed, selfishness & a pathological sense of entitlement. My mother is the same pos, hiding behind a mask of social status, while sitting on a wealth of personal property, stolen from her own adult offspring, including inheritance & heirlooms from late grandparents (my father's parents). Narcissistic parents are disgusting. I have more respect for the thug strangers in a crime ring who broke into, looted & ransacked my home. At least they never smiled in my face while saying they were helping me & asking me to trust them.

[@grammamellow1219]

She is a gem. Sister sunshine. Dressed in yellow. Gods hands and voice. Warrior Mama. Thanks for being, both of you.

[@grammamellow1219]

That little bird somebody sends

[@angelaholmes8888]

Jewel is right when you come from a childhood filled with trauma and dysfunction you tend to repeat the cycle as an adult

[@sharonlampert7452]

Turn wounds into wisdom. Turn Pain into Power. Self love is true love ❤️

[@blessed7927]

“I love healing. I will be healing for the rest of my life” Amen

[@calisongbird]

Wow I read this at the EXACT MOMENT that she said it!

[@angelaholmes8888]

Jewel totally made the right choice to cut ties with her narcissistic mother it's obvious that she never cared about her daughter

[@melb2258]

That last sentence is so sad

[@angelaholmes8888]

@@melb2258 yes sad but unfortunately true

[@nyx4love]

I am in awe of Jewel's wisdom ... finding her own way to sanity and peace ...

[@olgakim4848]

*"I'm always here to forgive you whenever you're ready..."* Say what?! I feel a lot of rage for Jewel's mother right now. Outrageous! The absolute gall. Ack!

[@foxyauragems6146]

Of course they always turn it on you. Classic Narc

[@Valerie-hw4bq]

☺️💯

[@winheather2976]

She has such a unique way of explaining, psychological and spiritual matters! I heard her speak a year or so ago I was so impressed! She is truly brilliant!

[@ruexlala]

My parents gaslit me this same way. So much love to Jewel and to Dr Ramani ❤

[@lisacranmer8005]

Mine also..both are master manipulative people, self righteous and narcopath...

[@kathyingram3061]

~Her story on Joe Rogan, of how she dealt with the Hollywood music industry, is my favorite interview ever!~She is brilliant & awesome!~

[@75ENVY]

Me to , I still remember the feeling of hearing her first time

[@ponzo1967]

Some people are naturally interesting simply talking,.she one of those

[@FinallyFulfilled]

Still dealing with that anger and working through it. While anger was the energy that pushed me forward, it’s also the energy that you are gaslit for. Narcissistic families use absolutely everything against you. It’s always lose/lose.

[@annalisavajda252]

Abusers want control of everything even your emotions and anger is unacceptable though some of them try to provoke that response intentionally to criticize you for feeling that way. I was actually assaulted then filmed swearing so the abuser could claim look she's hysterical for no reason etc. They are just completely manipulative and degrading and victims are then conditioned to blame themselves knowing that's how others will respond to them likely too. Jewell is lucky to be so independent or else people get desperate for love even toxic love.

[@grammichal6759]

@@annalisavajda252 GREAT insight beautifully expressed❣️

[@FaytheInGod]

​@@annalisavajda252My ex husband did that to me, among many other things. He was so good at manipulation, especially in my somewhat dysfunctional family & even with some friends that he turned half my family away from me with crap like that.

[@realhealing7802]

Yes! The only way to save is to leave the narcissistic family. No contact was my only option.

[@APerson-tq1zg]

​@@annalisavajda252I've had this done to me so many times in attempts to 'prove' that I'm really to blame for how abusive I've been treated. I wish people fact-checked more.

[@Samantabhadri]

Jewel is my hero. I've always loved her music, but this interview really shows her inner wisdom, eloquence and maturity.

[@patricianoel7782]

“Hurt people, hurt people.” These few words were so powerful for me. I have multiple sclerosis which occasionally cause me to be impatient and disappointed. I then inadvertently hurt others. Thanks, Jewel. 😮

[@NO-ib1ip]

Yes yes yes 100% yes. Sorry does not rebuild a relationship. CHANGED BEHAVIOUR does. I totally agree. I think this is why my narcissistic mother’s apologies always feel like empty BS. Because it’s the same pattern of behaviour and when the sorry arrives … I feel nothing in it.

[@klw8771]

Totally agree! I have a friend too who feebly says I’m sorry while continuing with lying, hypocritical acts.. when i point out truths I’ve experienced with him in the past he says i shouldn’t bring up the past and look to the now and the future..but if in the now your behaviours don’t exhibit change why would i trust that?? So YES to CHANGED BEHAVIOUR rebuilds relationships..loose and meaningless ‘sorry’s’ do NOT COUNT. I’ve always said actions speak louder than words.

[@lisathomas5719]

@@klw8771 I agree. This also made me think about a segment Dr. Fonda ( licensed therapist/ on KZbin} did re. " Meaningful apologies" listing what they should include. I think it may be on the Will Smiith apology after the infamous Oscar slap.

[@glennlamb4310]

Dr. Ramani, I just realized about a month ago that I was controlled most of my whole entire life then your podcasts started showing up, and I have been watching them ever since. My mom was the messenger between my grandma, and grandpa, and had no freedom to do anything as a child like spend 1 night at a friend's house. She had to take care of her younger siblings, and wasn't able to marry who she fell in love with, so she married my dad just to get out of the house. I grew up mocked that I had ear stuck out more than another,, teased, and called things like a shameless hussie or it was bad that I looked more like my dad. I couldn't become a brownie, play instrument, or make any decisions like if I wanted, like to wash my hair, not get it cut, or pick out my own clothes until after 6th grade. Until this day I still won't even let my ears show even though I'm thankful that I have good hearing which matters to me more. I was told that even if my dad said that I could do something that I still couldn't listen to him, so I left home the first time at age 13, and kept it up until age 18 which was when my parents got divorced. I moved out of state at that time thinking that if I stayed it would never be any better, and I would have to believe that I would never amount to nothing like I was being told. I married to young after that at the age of almost 20,, and had 3 children with my 1st husband. I was so happy to finally feel like I had purpose in life, but that marriage ended with my children, and I being abandoned when they were only ages 3, 5, and 7. I had to walk to get my groceries, clean houses, and babysit to make ends meet with no child support. . Thank God my inlaws at the time were supportive, and helped us a lot.I stayed single for 13 years, and vowed to be there for my children so that they would know that I would never leave them. My mom called me one day while I was still married after I had my 2cd child, and said that I was selfish for not staying in touch, and I mentioned to her that I just needed to be treated for the person that I am, and she said that she could do that, I replied, you can? She said yes, so we made up for lost time, and remained close until she died last year. I remarried after after being divorced for 13 years, and learned how to drive at the age of 35, then worked my way up to owning my own business, but unfortunately I lost my only daughter, because she lost her mind with addictions, and then being killed by a hit, and run driver which no one was ever convicted for. So after 45 years in that state my husband, and I moved to a better climate state. We'd been married nearly 20 years by then. Once there, he decided on wanting to learn to fly a 2 seater airplane, which ended up with the instructor, and he being killed the 1st time of night flying in 2020, right when covid hit, and we only lived there 2 years. Being devastated, I made the choice between going back to where my 2 son's live or move somewhere that suit me best for my well being. I ended up moving to where my deceased husband grew up, since his sister lived there, I trusted her, and I've known her for over 23 years. My oldest son is married to a narcissist, I don't know what type, and I've commented on a couple of your podcasts about this. My son, and his wife have 2 daughters, plus her mom is also living with them. His wife was sexually abused as a child along with 2 other girls, it started at the age of 8. Once this was found out the man was imprisoned, and ended up dying there. One girl went to a mental hospital for the rest of her life, another went on with her life, and my daughter- in-law has majorr issues along with feeling like a person is like a piece of luggage or something. I figured this out when I made a surprise visit to congratulate my son for being with his company for 20 years. The trip about killed me, she tried to sabotage everything, because it wasn't all about her, but I wasn't taking the bait, and I could see that she didn't like that it wasn't getting to me even though she'd have an airplane movie on or her kids were playing airplane games on there devices. What really made me sick is after I returned back home, was the comments that I would remember her saying, like she told her 19 year old while I was sitting there,, that quote, ( you just use your friend to get to go to expensive baseball games, and things, right ,) and she said yes Mom. So now that I'm back home my son says that my 19 year old granddaughter isn't responding to my texts, because her mom is reading them. My other granddaughter will be graduating next year, and I may go back, but with low contact like talking about the weather, but only for a short visit if at all. I hope that neither of my son's 2 daughters grow up being like their rmother. I've been sick since I've returned, I'm dizzy, had to stay in bed for 3 1/2 weeks off, and on, and have made a doctor's appointment for the end of this month like you'd mentioned that it's a good idea. I was in counseling at the senior center for loosing my past husband in the plane crash for awhile. I had heard of the term narcissist, but it never sunk in until now on how it has effected my life. Thank God I listen to my intuition if something isn't feeling right. Once I get further along I hope to subscribe to your sessions or Jewel's. Thank you both for all that you do!❤

[@SamStone1964]

Do you have any idea what is causing your dizziness?

[@glennlamb4310]

No, I'm going to the doctor at the end of the month to figure it out.

[@RawOlympia]

I hope you are better with the dizziness, I used to have it, I think that diet must have helped and rest!

[@fifilafleur5555]

Wow... Jewel is incredibly intelligent. What an interesting conversation as I had a mother who abandoned me at 1.5 years old and a father who was physically, verbally, emotionally & sexually abusive. I can relate to some of what Jewel spoke about here. ♥️ I cannot imagine the hurt, anger & betrayal she must have felt over her mother stealing her fortune from her. I wouldn’t put it past mine to do the same.

[@cynthiaburrus255]

I have watched her dad on a reality program that was on for several years. He wasn't the primary person of interest but the bother of the primary family's patriarch. His personality, the brother's, is exactly the opposite of her father's. It is so ironic as she stated that a number of children are raised by the same parents or parent, yet they cope with it so differently. Some are determined to heal their lives while others are locked in an eternal struggle with the past. I hope she had the opportunity to find solace with her uncle's family and her cousins. I've no idea if it still on. It was clear her father is a perfectionist. It deeply saddens me to learn of her story. I saw one episode when she came to see her dad and I believe she had a child and perhaps was pregnant. It was a very touching reunion. They made some awesome music together which they enjoyed as I'm sure the audience did. Clearly, they loved one another. It is a terrible thing to live with Two Dads...in One Person. His guilt is VERY LIKELY, one would Think, Overwhelming. As a retired RN, I felt there was a sadness in him one often sees with Alcohol fueled broken relationships. That underlying sadness and guilt seemed evident to me without knowing the story. She has a Lovely Soul and a She is a beautiful woman. She now has what she needs, the knowledge and tools to raise her own children so much sweeter and purer for them and for herself. And then, THERE IS HER GREAT TALENT!

[@gregaiken1725]

my advice is to discard all that is not in alignment with our journey. learn to see clearly and quickly those around you and your environment. dont put up with excuses, deceit, or gaslighting.

[@gladysgreen2]

I learned so much from this interview, thank you. Especially the part about listening to and trusting your pain/anxiety/and body as "truth and to trust it" at 31:10. "My anxiety was my best alarm system I was consuming something that didn't agree with my nature" Wow!

[@teresarenee3829]

She is very articulate and emotionally intelligent.

[@robertataylor5794]

I am so glad to have come across this video on my healing journey. I am not broken and damaged goods. My children saw me fall down, but they are also watching me stand up! Thank you for sharing your story.

[@rubytuesday7653]

Stand tall 🤍

[@katec9893]

Jewel's story has always resonated with me. She has such an intuitive way with words it really connects to me. I love how she used the imagery of the oyster and the pearl, the buffalo, the compass and she said her goal was to learn a new emotional language in order to save herself.

[@karenf9564]

This angel/goddess has been put on this earth to teach us what a human is capable of: In terms of pure, raw unadulterated talent. Artistry. Brilliance. Passion. Intelligence. Resilience. Work ethic. Wisdom. Self knowing. Compassion. Forgiveness. Radiating love. I could go on. She is extraordinary.

[@viviennea.293]

Jewel is an amazing woman. I've always loved her, her music and her acting. She is talented beyond all. But this whole episode showed her as incredibly wise. I am so very happy for her. Her nature is totally the Gold Statue. I couldn't love and admire her more.

[@susiechristianson8491]

This was a brilliant interview with Ms Jewel. I recall her fame in the 80s. I grew up in Fairbanks/Nenana/Anchorage, so I felt that 'last frontier' connection with her on the radio. But, after my life of horrendous malignant narcissistic abuse from my mom (I was on the streets by 15 as well), I too have come full circle. Her words are melodious, sincere and powerful. Her mind's view - it's aim and the dusting off of the problem while still being connected to the hurt is amazing. Bravo, Ms Jewel. I pray your son grows to know you aren't just his hero, but many other people's, as well.

[@sharonlampert7452]

Truth Wins is the Birth of a Philosopher. Brilliant!

[@sherriholt3814]

Jewel has a beautiful soul. What a journey! Thank you, Jewel for sharing your experiences and avenue of healing. Your name suits you well. You are a Jewel...a pearl of wisdom!

[@alexismerrilldragonqueen]

I loved Jewel's album in the 90s. I listened to that thing over and over. I have a snaggle tooth like Jewel's, so it used to make me feel pretty to have crooked teeth to see beautiful Jewel this way too. I also read her book about her life and she comes from a similar toxic family background as I do.

[@sharonlampert7452]

Trauma Bond is at the core of most relationships. Brilliant!

[@alexismerrilldragonqueen]

I yelled "WHAT???" when I heard Jewel's mother embezzled approximately 100 million dollars. She just completely used Jewel in the worst way.

[@juniperfall]

I know right??? And that letter inviting Jewel to apologize. I also yelled WHAT????? There were probably thousands of us yelling lol! What an incredible human being Jewel is. Taking the high road, committing to healing, then creating an accessible platform offering community and education to thousands. Incredible. Wow.

[@alexismerrilldragonqueen]

@@juniperfall Jewel's mother was disgusting. Expecting an apology after she embezzled millions is absolutely psychopathic.

[@juniperfall]

@@alexismerrilldragonqueen absolutely. Total psychopath.

[@lisacranmer8005]

@@alexismerrilldragonqueen she is a Narc....maybe Bipolar also..

[@ladylo-fi6979]

I know, right? I googled her mom and saw that she presents herself as one of these super special enlightened New Agey types. And she wrote a book about how to manifest abundance! Meanwhile she's creating abundance by embezzling from her own daughter. Just wild.

[@ahimsaalexander9004]

Ooooo…”I’m not broken. I just need to do a loving archeological dig into who I am…” damn good line… And I love how she looks at anxiety. Considering that anti-anxiety meds are the number one water pollutant in most major metropolitan areas, I wonder if people can learn to deprogram themselves like she’s done…to use anxiety as an ally versus a symptom that needs to be suppressed and treated, versus actually digging deeper into the sick programming that evokes these symptoms. I think when we can start doing that, then we quit creating a world modeled on these narcissistic social models of bonding.

[@tiajin248]

I didn't expect, this video to be this good, must confess it. We survivors want to be loved and accepted terribly, otherwise we have never let the narcissist to screw us even the first time😔

[@AlanTuringWannabe]

She's so smart and so strong. She's helping me with my own issues.

[@sharonlampert7452]

Happiness is an act of defiance.

[@BlueB-bx6nh]

Love it 😊

[@nancybest21]

Thank you for giving her the platform to share her truth. Love this woman and send her heart felt blessings 💙

[@bluelake6646]

How heartbreaking for the father and the guest. Father is angry and hits the kids, and kids walk school in cold weather, then dad regrets and brings lunch. Same pattern in my family.

[@katarinahinsey3931]

I’ve loved Jewel’s music since high school but in all this time I never knew how wise she was. A beautiful woman with great voice and can write lyrics and she’s wise as a Shaolin master too. I’m just stunned.

[@teresarenee3829]

She hit the nail on the head with how you deal with your anger and resentment towards the narc, you cannot let it consume you. Especially when you are still having to live with them. I do get angry but I choose not to stew. I either reinforce my boundaries or I create new ones, but I refuse to allow myself to hate the narc, because I don't want to live like that.

[@justice8563]

I love that Jewel spoke up about help, shouldn’t always cost money to get help. So many look for what they can get instead of extending compassion without a price tag. People’s time is precious, but so is taking the time to just listen when a person doesn’t have the resource or a person to turn too. Jewel gets it.

[@annmarie4794]

What a an intelligent and wonderfully rare human being. I was enthralled with this podcast. She is a jewel. You are a wonderful podcaster. Very respectful to your guest and a genuine caring soul. Thank you for sharing with us.

[@chiyerano]

"I'm sorry is nice...Changed behavior earns back relationships." Indeed. I am sorry you didn't have a better relationship with your mother but glad you were able to develop a better relationship with your father. Thank you for this interview. Almost just in time for Father's Day, thank you again for this interview. 🌹

[@calisongbird]

Yes. The words “I’m sorry” don’t build back broken trust. Only changed behavior does that.

[@carolgarrett1786]

YES! HER PHRASE: SORRY IS NICE BUT IS CHANGED BEHAVIOR THAT EARNS BACK RELATIONSHIPS WAS SOMETHING THAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION 👍

[@Notbothered1]

Jewel me too girl me too. My mother stole 2 inheritances from me n my sister n son. My mother was so abusive it distorted my own reality. I finally cut all contact 2 years ago.. im healing we do heal..❤❤

[@grandmaG67]

It's hard to understand why people abuse others especially when they profess to love the person. Jewell has the most beautiful soul and voice and it's sad that she has been abused so badly. But by surviving she proves that what doesn't destroy you makes you stronger. For those who have survived and come through in the other side, God bless you.

[@bpassion4fashion581]

I love Jewel and love her more after I saw her interview at the Rogan podcast . I was dumbfounded and heartbroken at the abuse she went through through her own mother ! God bless her !!!

[@hannahk.summerville5908]

"Don't talk yourself out of your EXPERIENCE with your thoughts!" That was so accurate it made me cry. Such a beautiful interview. I've loved her since she appeared on "Men in trees" with this song that starts like: "Self? Why are you awake again? It's 1 am." Good day? I love it so so much.

[@FNFIHOCTW]

I always loved her music, but now I love her resilience!

[@k-mully]

Jewel is one of the most insightful people I have ever heard speak.

[@lamusica1592]

Yes, a malignant narcissist will embed themselves in your support structure. Bravo Jewel for surviving and seeing the light

[@Bellasun670]

This is good to hear. I’m so glad she is sharing about her journey of healing … I loved her honesty and rawness. She is such a artistic beautiful lady. I’ve always thought she was far beyond her years, she is a deep soul. Thank you Jewel for sharing and spotlighting something that is so painful. I can relate❤

[@heidiklessard8440]

Dr. R - 🔥🔥🔥💗 you're an amazing and very intelligent women. Jewel is the definition of strength, enlightenment & survival - then, now & forever. Diamond in the rough 💎

[@karenweaver7574]

Jewel lives up to her name, so wise. Love this.

[@scrapshappen]

Jewel and her music were the soundtrack to my own undoing. . .and to how I found my way through. Still a work in progress.. but everyone is. Hurt people hurt people, true. But healing people heal others just by bringing that energy into the world.

[@michellerose7591]

❤Dr R… thank you.. this for me is a life changing podcast you shared with Beautiful Jewel.. I follow your content regularly and you have helped me so very much in my recovery from a life time of narcissistic abuse from my Father step mother, and two ex husband’s… I tragically lost my Mother when she was 52 yo she was brutally killed in her own home I found her 4 days after the fact.. I played Jewels famous song at her funeral “My Hands” still to this day over 20 years later I cry when I hear that song playing.. What a beautiful interview with you & Jewel… Please do a follow up interview with her she is amazing and I can relate to her story very much.. Tho I didn’t get take for 100 million I did lose my soul which has no price attached xxxxx bless you and all you do DR R 💜💜💜💜💜

[@laine80]

Thank you both so much for this interview! I’ve been a huge fan of Jewel’s since the 90’s and have found so much of her music healing. Goodbye Alice in Wonderland really speaks to me as a narcissistic abuse survivor. I had the chance to interview her years ago and she’s just as down to earth and genuine as she seems. ♥️

[@VioletEmerald]

Thanks for song rec. Wow it's so good. Hadn't heard that one yet.

[@laine80]

@@VioletEmerald yes!! My favorite part is: “I hit the bottom when I reached the top But I never knew it was you who was breaking my heart I thought you had to love me But you did not Yes a heart can hallucinate If it's completely starved for love It can even turn monsters into Angels from above You forged my love just like a weapon And you turned it against me like a knife You broke my last heart string You opened up my eyes” Family Tree is another really good one you should listen to. Dr Ramani referenced it too. It always brings me to tears.

[@Prometheuspredator]

You are not a survivor, but you are a conquer. A victor and a champion. You overcame the odds. You are the winner. The queen.

[@007nadineL]

Rxy. Yf yf y yyugyccyc6f6cf6cf

[@kayakins3051]

That tricking the mind is denial . Trauma bonding … bless her heart

[@karenherndon8941]

Jewel is an unbelievable genius on helping so many people, so sad she had to be a puppet to learn. She's AMAZING ❤❤❤

[@Juliette_Thandi]

This is something that really comes from the heart and soul. I'm a musician and writer part-time. I used my skills in maths etc to become an engineer and escape the problems my home gave me. This is where my income comes from. Save your soul and the lyrics of that song stayed with me for many years, & her intuition on stage. My issues have been pretty bad but obviously nothing in comparison. I'm starting to use the VR from Jewels site. I knew with everything in me that I would be, and still have to be the only one to save myself. A long way to go. But she really does hold a light. I'm fiercely grappling with how to deal with the zing-zang of the mother that caused me so much struggle. But also wonderful things. Thanks for bringing this special human on this.

[@heartheart5543]

You use vr for innerworld?

[@ellesmith7877]

God Bless you Jewel!! I was in a narcissistic marriage for 18 years. My now 31 year old son is narcissistic 😞 I’m devastated, he has cut me off completely. Your story gives me hope. You’re truly a miracle!!

[@nancyjohnston5985]

Having a narcissistic child is the worst - people blame the parent when the child cuts you off!

[@colettespencer3357]

I resonate. The people who make you doubt your sanity. It takes time to recover.

[@honkytears]

What an insightful, resilient and brilliant human being.

[@magtag853]

Jewel is so lovable and lovely. So unbelievable that her mother would treat her so unspeakably. It boggles my mind!

[@cascade00]

Jewel is fulfilling her destiny, Her dad telling her that mother earth has the cure. . . I understand how that would help her believe that she could heal. . .anxieties, problem areas, and stay the course, not giving in to bad decisions in critical moments. Incredible story. I"m so glad there was a Nancy there for Jewel. That is the missing puzzle piece for a lot of people.

[@suemick8709]

Her mother saying, "I'm just so glad that I get to go back to just being your mother." made me freeze in horror. I heard a person unrepentant, and lacking empathy with empty words . To her daughter that she had abandoned as a child and financially ruined, she seemed oblivious what effect her actions had on her daughter. It was like a horror movie monster wedging it's foot in the door just as you're trying to slam it shut. I related to so much of Jewel's story. It is so difficult when it is family but you really have to take care of yourself and remove people who are detrimental to your mental health. I'm a pro at ghosting, I'm still too reactive to trust myself with a more direct approach. Still a lot of baggage to rummage through.

[@apostolia2124]

"... a loving arcehological dig in me" what a tender and accurate describe of self -healing.

[@yaranpaupore2041]

I didn't allow myself to feel and/or express the anger I felt toward my mom until she passed away. Attempts to do so before this always left me feeling guilty and appologetic. The day she died was the day I was free.

[@VioletEmerald]

I saw Jewel in Concert 5 years ago and knew enough of her childhood trauma before realizing you were gonna do this episode that I was SO excited to click and see this... she is such an inspiration.

[@llhannah9297]

"There's not something wrong with me, there's something right with me" - Jewel This was awesome. I'm going through this right now and can relate in so many ways. It's so heartbreaking when you realize your family is incapable of loving you. We have to decide if we can love them knowing they can't love us back. Accept their limited selves and protect ourselves psychologically. Seek love and validation in healthier places. I love and totally agree with her thoughts on how we can actually use our anxiety and anger as tools to help us know when something's not right and how to react. What an empowering and very effective way to look at it.

[@Dee_bestest]

beautiful and honest interview, you can hear the hurt in her voice. I’m so glad she’s able to talk about it now & share her story with us all. I loved her perspective on anxiety because it’s so true! ❤

[@Mmm...yummymummy]

I want to hear about the mrg. to the cowboy.

[@337BLOOMLEE]

Jewel is a amazing grl, n what that grl went thru was HORRIFIC... Bless her ❤️ 💙 💜 🙏 she is a tru WARRIOR. My Alaskan grl!!!

[@Meowhappie]

She’s so eloquent and well spoken ❤❤❤

[@jp5419]

Traumatic Narcissism... just bought the audiobook. Thank you.

[@SofiUk0319]

These women are brilliant, very impressed w their conversation. It does really put into perspective the angry alcoholic villain vs very subtle emotional abuse that had much more damaging and long lasting consequences ❤

[@crocadoodle7101]

Jewel is a gem!💎

[@annastone5624]

I have been fighting for years saying there’s nothing wrong with my SYMPTOMS!!! I need safety and support! And no thanks, I don’t want any pills for my anxiety.. my anxiety knows what I should be anxious about!!

[@jaq3405]

The part about her moms letter reminded me of my mom, shes ready to forgive her. Its crazy because when you grow up with this sly covert abuse, it gets embedded in you

[@LoveLoveStrong]

Shaking my head nonstop at the Jewel discussing her mom. Not knowing you are consuming poison.

[@brenthoward8261]

Such a great interview. Jewel's attitude is so positive and upbeat. Her inner wisdom shines thru.. thank you for being such a light Jewel. Love your music too! Best to you Jewel, much love!

[@bwms6879]

She is able to speak words of self love so well. I’ve spoke and acted out the opposite to myself the majority of my life, believing my abusers and abandoned. I am on a better direction now and truly want to be where she is.

[@Epona55]

I was so impressed with this interview with Jewel. Good job to both of you, Dr Ramani and Jewel. I came to appreciate how intelligent, thoughtful and well spoken Jewel is. I immediately got Jewel's audiobook 'Never Broken' and was thrilled that she narrates her life story. It is an amazing story of survival and resilience, and how Jewel became the JEWEL that she is. Thank you Dr Ramani for doing this interview.

[@juliadplume3097]

I am from Alaska also. When I first saw Jewels video “who will save your soul”, I was living in California, but without knowing where she was from I just knew she was from Alaska.

[@leeseh7137]

I've seen Dr. Ramani before but never as an interviewer.....I think she has found her forte'!....Every time i wondered something...Dr. Ramani, asked Jewel the question i was thinking about! Truly enjoyed seeing Dr. Ramani in this format.

[@audreystarr6166]

Wow I'm amazed...no wonder why I resonate so much with Jewels music and lyrics...I was raised Mormon and repetitive trauma and abuse. It's amazing and such a healing thing to experience 💛 her music!!!

[@kimberclevelandmusic]

Yes, I agree. Sometimes one becomes a narcissist to survive narcissism… maybe one becomes a charismatic narcissist, expert at hiding the true self from people not in their orbit daily. Sometimes it leaks out or can’t be hidden from very aware people who know what they’re seeing pretty quickly. Jewel has really used her life experiences to make healing music, or managed to not let it keep her from getting that art out there. Her music has helped (and entertained so many, including me). Great success story.

[@truthseeker3773]

8:05 the gaslighting and following confusion IS so damaging to the soul 😢

[@judithhetherington420]

How beautiful that she understood her true identity and saw her anxiety as something to help her purge the toxic thoughts. Very wise woman. Old soul. 💕🦋

[@HeatherDMorris]

Gosh i was married to a narcicist and it was a complete brain fog when i left . I look back at pictures and see the emptiness in my smile . Peace is beautiful now . Thank you Jesus for your love

[@bluelake6646]

There is no right or wrong feeling, I like that.

[@6by6by6]

Jewel has gracefully navigated through a landscape of deceit manipulation betrayal & abuse not only at the hands of both her parents but the music industry as well. I don’t know why she would ever want to give her abusive father the time of day .. He doesn’t deserve to ever be in her or her child’s life and should be purged from her life entirely as she has demonstrated a weakness towards manipulation & enforcement of boundaries related to family relationships.

[@sharonlampert7452]

Anxiety as an alarm 🚨 system. Brilliant!

[@creativevanspace]

This is such an inspirational interview. My interest in Jewel’s story started when I started watching the Alaska’s Last Frontier. This is incredible story of survival from psychological abuse.

[@heartheart5543]

Her book "never broken" (paperback and audiobook read by jewel) is mind blowing and hearbreaking (about her life)

[@creativevanspace]

@@heartheart5543 Will check it out! Thanks!

[@shelleysmith6667]

My takeaway: Her mom reminded me of toxic corporate America. How heinous when it's your mom. Jewel's a warrior. Wow!!!

[@tjtampa214]

This was so good. I am so happy for Jewel. 💜 She was right so many times. We really do have to listen to ourselves. And what a big struggle it is. It takes a lifetime for so many things. God bless you and thank you for making your platform "innerworld" available to everyone in an economical way. God bless you! 💜