How journalist helped to expose Lance Armstrong's doping in cycling - BBC News

[@MattGP01]

This comment section is sad. David did all he could to try to clean the sport up. The authorities never wanted to own up to the fact that the sport had a problem. What we know now is... it still has a problem, and so do all other sports. But so long as the money keeps rolling in, nobody will do anything about it because they can't afford the bad PR. Wad David naive? Yes, but no less admirable in his pursuit of fair and clean sport. It's amazing how perverted this world has become, that someone who tries to do good is despised.

[@cinystarr4657]

That's been happening for years esp. in poIatics. They better not investigate the wrong people. They know who not to take down & who to cover and that's why we lost faith & trust in this entire industry. They're networking with the people doing the damage

[@sbs2798uu]

Shut up peanut boy

[@GothAtheist]

"Sport" Biking isn't a sport. An athletic event, sure, but not a sport, sorry.

[@GothAtheist]

@@cinystarr4657 Bullshit. The system never works that way, and you spelled politics wrong too

[@cinystarr4657]

@@GothAtheist Gee ya think? Why do you suppose ppl have to spell IN CODE around here? !🤔 And the system has worked that way for years now. The fact that we have to text in code to avoid ghosting is literal proof that 💩 is and has been going on. Maybe you've missed all the bans on Twitter too. keep sleepin

[@Labor_Jones]

Thank you for exposing the TRUTH.

[@c4caffeen134]

It's probably the last time one actually did their job. They used to dig and ask pressing questions. It's a strange phenomenon today & they get penalized for doing it (depends on who the target is). Instead they protect & deliver missinfo for the ppl they side with

[@sexycenturion7074]

Jimmy saville: hey you leave the BBC alone they are great journalists. Rolf Harris: I agree with that. BBC: We as journalists didn't research are own people because they made us to much money.

[@GothAtheist]

Not remotely true. I would ask how you got so dumb, but I think you were born that way. The whole POINT of Journalism is to hold people accountable, life or death, regardless of who, their political affiliates, etc, which they ABSOLUTELY do dailing, all while having to put up with little shits like you who think they know better. You don't know better.

[@joelego5767]

Listened too much to Trump?

[@c4caffeen134]

@@joelego5767 got nothing to do with him

[@kananfarzali1806]

But why he is not getting jailed for this? He made millions with cheating

[@GIBBO4182]

He also made millions for charity…should they give all the money back as well?

[@boldnessofsouls3502]

Like charities actually do anything for the causes they seem to champion.

[@DarkLordofTheSith_DarthVader]

@@boldnessofsouls3502 If you weren't so ignorant and idiotic you'd realize the British Heart Foundation fund over £100 million per year for researching diseases. They have also funded and equipped many public places with defibrillators and first brought in the idea of storing them in ambulances. Also they do multiple CPR training courses across the UK. Go and get a grip.

[@GIBBO4182]

@@boldnessofsouls3502 how cynical are you??

[@jacquesdemolay5171]

Which is why he was facing a potential $100 million lawsuit from the United States Postal System, but ended up settling with the Dept of Justice for $5 million. Also, defining which laws he actually broke (especially at the time), in regards to sports cheating, across international borders with varying jurisdictions, makes such a thing highly unlikely.

[@MegaSnow121]

My son admired Lance Armstrong, and he and I watched all the races on TV, and followed him closely. We watched an endurance test done In a lab where the doctor afterwards told the viewer that this cyclist had an amazing natural ability to get strength and endurance into his muscles, or something to that effect. We were both in awe. Then a few years later came the revelation that he had been doping all along. It was a huge letdown for my son. His hero had cheated. How many other kids were crushed after learning how badly this athlete had cheated? Lance hurt so many kids who looked up to him - and he cheated his competitors out of wins. Really sad human being.

[@CMMSFP]

Maybe your son should not look up to strangers he never met.

[@aalleexx1997]

@@CMMSFP yeah lmao

[@shawnchurch316]

No one really knows what kind of a advantage performance enhancing drugs really gives a athlete. The placebo effect is very much real. Maybe knowing the effects a drug is supposed to have is enough to drive someone harder. Lance Armstrong may have been able to win those titles either way.

[@jaycahuenga6416]

Sometimes it better to be an honest failure than a cheating winner

[@GiJoe94]

You know that they all cheated in that era. They even cheat now

[@Mynx31]

Lance was the tip of the iceberg

[@Aragorn333]

Thank you all devoted journalists. That’s why honest journalists are always unwelcome by those who did or have been doing something wrong.

[@QwadLuzr]

Bwahahahaaaa "honest journalists"!!! BBC??? Bhwaahahahahaaaaa!!!!

[@joelego5767]

​@@QwadLuzr okay trump

[@joet8862]

Back when journalists actually did journalism

[@underarmbowlingincidentof1981]

its the same the only thing is we only remember the good stories. the bad stuff we forget that. stupid journalism has existed forever. even in ancient rome they had people gossiping about the private life of some dude here and another dude there...

[@DE-ss5ks]

Where are the journalists in exposing big pharma, corporate media and politicians with the scandal of the last three years?

[@bennyg3955]

Which "scandal" exactly?

[@DarkstarDarth]

I knew early on when Lance left the US frustrated he couldn’t win in duathlons and triathlons and suddenly left to join the Tour de France and won a stage something was obviously up. All us racers knew it.

[@joelego5767]

Even doped people can't compete at the level he did. He had the talent.

[@DarkstarDarth]

@@joelego5767 ..ok, how many of those doped riders had a motor bike carrying bags of blood through a race?

[@VeloVasquez]

David Walsh was successful at bringing down Lance Armstrong. The sad truth is doping is still alive and well in pro cycling. It's just as ovivious now as it was when Lance was racing. It's there and I'm surprised we don't see it, it's so obvious.

[@joostamsterdam]

What an empty comment . How do you know it is still there. The fraud of Armstrong was on a scale we have not seen since. Of course there will be some second rate athletes that will take doping. But the true heroes now are just so talented. It makes sense how fast they go.

[@lynno6546]

More than anything else, this is what defines a good human being: the ability to admit wrongdoing and strive to make it right. Armstrong has done neither. While he did some good in trying to clean up the sport, he didn't clear his personal mistakes. That speaks mountains. What a sad little man.

[@jacquesdemolay5171]

Are you sure about any of that? I'm not unaware of any "good" he did in supposedly "trying to clean up the sport" (he was mostly completely uncooperative in that regard), and yet he HAS admitted to wrongdoing, repeatedly, and reached out to many people that he previously hurt in the hope of mending some of those bridges. That doesn't make up for his wrongdoings, but he's quite open these days about the error of his ways and just how dysfunctional the entire sport was back in his day.

[@lynno6546]

@@jacquesdemolay5171 The specific error was saying he'd apologize to the journalist he sued and then not doing so. I would think he ought to return the ill gotten money - perhaps dumping it into his later efforts to clean things up does suffice, but to me it speaks volumes that one isn't able to say, "I made a mistake, and I'd like to apologize." Literally this whole conversation would be unnecessary if people would just do the right thing.

[@JB-uv4hm]

Interesting that we don’t get the continuous stream of retrospective on MLB’s doping era. Instead they tell us that the latest 61 is ‘historic’ in an attempt to rewrite the actual past.

[@DudeEnglish]

Lance was never disgraced. He and every other cyclist at his level was doping and still Lance beat them all. He’s the best ever!

[@vivavasquez]

it just takes a drop of common sense to know something was up with Lance

[@JB-uv4hm]

Oh yes we are certain you knew at the time

[@lestrem11]

His performances after cancer were better than his pre-cancer ones. A bit of a clue there.

[@optimisticoutreach1236]

That is like saying you exposed a fish for having gills. THEY ALL DOPED.

[@yoshzlac2429]

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[@mish375]

Much like the Olympics. All the athletes there are doping or taking enhancing drugs. I'm certain they pay off whoever they have to pay off for a negative test result as well.

[@SMichaelDeHart]

The Truth will out!!

[@Allwegottt]

Damn I thought it was more REAL evidence, all beliefs and no facts

[@EnglishCoachChad]

This is OLD news. The story has been told over and over. Why again now? Am I missing something?

[@guberization]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@emilgrigorescu8282]

Yup, easier to regurgitate an old story than exposing global wokeism for example!

[@QwadLuzr]

So they don't have to talk about the disaster they've walked us into.

[@coraltown1]

@@emilgrigorescu8282 says the fascist

[@yoshzlac2429]

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[@Thewatchinglad]

We all knew….. now get the rest, is happening in every sports Tennis, Fútbol, cycling, ice skating, basketball, gymnastics, runners, ….and lest not talking about contact sports. Specially Russia and those poor girls that never develop. Is not all their fault, IS THE SPORTS ASSOCIATION AT FAULT ….GREED.

[@GIBBO4182]

“Our roided up guy, beat your roided up guy” - Bill Burr

[@yoshzlac2429]

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[@mish375]

@@notromir Any kind of track running as well. No athlete gets to the Olympics without doping.

[@ytbenavraham9553]

Did he ever apologize to Emma O'Reilly? Did he apologize to all those people he wrongfully blasphemed? He owes me nothing. But he should make amends

[@Stevexnycautomotive]

Freaks freaks freaks

[@lazeppelini123]

If I was Armstrong I would go to arm wrestling not cycling

[@mikespicer4827]

Funny you go after a cyclist but couldn't admit Savile was protected by you...

[@QwadLuzr]

and Jeff's clients still are.

[@yoshzlac2429]

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[@yoshzlac2429]

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[@moringaottawa]

irrelevant to them doing their job reporting about elitists involved in defrauding the public etc. but 100% a valid issue that requires a real raw conversation, a full and transparent inquiry by a neutral 3rd party and the actual decision-makers who were assailants to Savile to be held accountable for the appropriate proportionate consequences. I'm certain the current majority of BBC employees wouldn't agree with that and understand their retirement pensions will be unscathed by this (they should agree to it even if they had to take a personal 5% reduction to their pensions; what that child pr3dat0r did was inexcusable by any measure).

[@QwadLuzr]

@Jonny Gertmunger Yep more CSA practitioners per capita than any other British institution. Yet they moralise to us daily. More ethics in a school-gate crack dealer.

[@JamesSmith-qs4hx]

But they did little to expose "Rotherham Men".

[@EcoEarthNut]

Armstrong will always be the biggest stain in pro cycling history. What a terrible person.

[@2011hwalker]

false. He brought a ton of charisma and energy to the sport. He is contrite now and remains passionate about the sport. He was demonized like he was jimmy saville or something. Walsh was and is overly dramatic.

[@martinc.720]

“How a journalist” or “How journalists”…. But there is something wrong with the title… again

[@auro1986]

this armstrong sent bbc's popularity to the moon

[@jamestajiri58]

Armstrong was greatest doping cheat ever. He did EPO, steroids, blood doping, all in the most scientific way. And he forced his support riders to dope as well.

[@2011hwalker]

Nah the east german regime of the 1980s was far more scientific. As was the Russian doping of the 2000s.

[@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe]

Why is a chubby meglomaniac with a talkshow become a benchmark on this top shelf DB?

[@charlesapana9935]

That's what journalist are paid to do, uncover what's covered

[@koda3967]

Does he (Armstrong) have to return the fraudulent settlement money he gouged from the media in the legal case?

[@teddykayy]

And now they're all clean ^____^

[@mulletheadbanger]

I thought the journalist was Paul Kimmage though I knew about thus one too.

[@petrairene]

So, any of these cyclists who is NOT using illegal substances? They are probably all doing it.

[@Bbhai24]

What happened on hindu temples in Leicester and Birmingham in UK ?

[@Stevexnycautomotive]

Had to be problem. They are evil ones.

[@skiphopflipflopdripdrop]

Explain??

[@ricatkins4918]

Is Naga Munchetty on a mission to upset her colleagues🤷‍♂️

[@yaasiinaburas8110]

noo

[@barumbadum]

You cannot do Tour de France with mineral water

[@jaycahuenga6416]

I know im late AF but karma has a funny way of catching up to you...I'm not being facetious.

[@edoardobelfiore6166]

Like Nord streem?lol

[@henrymilner6425]

They were literally all on dope lol

[@CharmaineFlowers-dd7fl]

Just was too good to be true 😂

[@3starskiwi]

Contador, wiggins etc also....oh never mind

[@howardwilliams1218]

At a time when they were ALL using drugs!!!!

[@scottlomas5509]

Did the BBC call them selfs journalists???? That's funny as fook.

[@MotoTvWoodsFarm]

Professional athletics is a mine field of approved drugs and unapproved drugs and medical techniques - a better story would be the deciding the what drugs are acceptable and why the line drawn where it is. Not remotely interested in journalist doing their job. What's next lets walk around with a traffic warden while books a celebrities car? The Story is Lance not the journalist and great athlete is Lance. Every single person taking part would have been applying some medical science to get the maximum performance from their bodies. Lance's 'confession' was also revenue driven so I don't yet buy into the story being sold it fits to neatly into the narrative of everyone being jealous.

[@ChiakiShirakawa]

劣化した静止画増えて、中身の根本哲学スカスカ動画増えてきたね。

[@manga1479]

Maybe you should of been spending your time investigating Jimmy Saville instead

[@reeling-in]

The BBC got nothing better to talk about!? Racism in the Labour party would be more useful! And don't let them deny it, or say they are on top of it, or that it's an isolated incident!

[@tepoztlan-osbornemusic6658]

When somebody hates aother person soo much there is something wrong, as is the case with David Walsh and even Greg Lemond.

[@Uberqueenbee]

Savile's protector?

[@shaf60]

Tour de turd .

[@shawnchurch316]

There is nothing wrong with using performance enhancing substances. Everybody's body chemistry is different and some people have natural advantages due to that chemistry. Let people do whatever they can to be the absolute best they can be. Imagine how Michael Phelps could of took swimming to the next level if he had all the pharmacological tools available. Sports competition is all about who is the best, lets see how far the human body really can go. It like a nascar restrictor plate race, take the plate off and lets see what they can do.

[@arijeanz]

your logic isn't really faulty at first glance but once you start to break down stuff problems start to arise. if PEs were allowed, what wouldn't be? where do we draw the line? what about an athlete taking hormones as a teenager to make themselves grow taller? what about a mechanical advantage for certain sports? special shoes, motorized bycicles, etc? there's already so much grey territory with the current allowances made, imagine how bad it would get if we allowed drugs. it would be less about the sport and more about the best chemistry developments than ever before. also, taking PEs still doesn't negate biological advantages, like you said yourself. a regular joe who dopes and a michael phelps who dopes aren't even in the same league. PEs will not balance skill and natural ability differences-- they will simply exacerbate them. you argue that we should allow drugs to let sports reach their maximum potential-- except it won't be people doing it, it will be substances. i feel like that goes against the essence of traditional sportsmanship. if i were you i would watch something like f1 instead

[@gogrape9716]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@duncandisorderly6562]

Old news 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@duncandisorderly6562]

Get out more

[@michaelfallon1463]

Walsh taking credit for Paul Kimmage's work.

[@greyfells2829]

I'd rather they expose why the hell anyone even cares about cycling? It's a boring sport that underutilizes the human body.

[@whatsuphonkycat]

old men trying to make their name off young boys... thats the actual story, headlines, money, and grey haired men clinging to a life they never had. follow the money, pressure the system... Lance was a kid.

[@horse-4598]

They are so slow without doping tho. Makes it boring

[@lifeistooshorttospendworrying]

Jesus Christ, what’s next? “Have we made our peace with Pete Rose?” 💤

[@indianatreedinicolarossi2897]

Lance true champ

[@LoboFuerte-b6s]

It was the doping era. Top 20 guys all popped for doping. The guy who survives cancer twice beats them, still a hero in my book. It’s one thing to be the only guy to do it, it’s quite another to be one of an era. Cleaning up the sport is a good thing, but Armstrong gets way too much shit for something that was commonplace during his timeline of wins

[@ramthian]

❤🙏

[@QwadLuzr]

How long till the nukes start flying, I am getting bored with the wait.

[@QwadLuzr]

@@blt4life112 Yeah who cares about nukes. As long as big banks and corporations make money, whats a few nukes.

[@carlosoliveiraoalfacinha]

Yes, the waiting for oblivion is boring... meanwhile we live!

[@ΜαριάνθηΖάβαλη]

Ευχαριστούμε για την ενημέρωση!!!Καλή δύναμη!!!Ο Χριστός μαζί μας!!!+++🛐☦️🇬🇷🙋👏🌹🤍👍

[@GothAtheist]

Better title: "How we collectively harrass someone for riding a bike on drugs, because that's totally important guys, I promise"

[@doctorsnorkel]

Old story. DO YOUR JOBS AND REPORT ON THE REAL NEWS!!!

[@honorladone8682]

Oh big deal.

[@markduncan6690]

What joy did these journalists get? This will only haunt them for the rest of their life’s!

[@NWforager]

they need to have a KZbin Grudge Boxing Match 🤜🏼💥🤛🏼

[@franciscopontesvelasco4315]

David Walsh an absolutely eejit

[@Frack_Black]

Why? You a lance fan boy?

[@franciscopontesvelasco4315]

@@Frack_Black if u read David Walsh books that I did, its obvious that he had a resentment and he didn't like lance and did everything to expose him. He defends Sean Kelly and others who were tested positive because he gets on well with them

[@mulletheadbanger]

Well I know of one journalist who exposed them all ,or at least got stuck in asking questions , Paul Kimmage another irish journalist, and that include Armstrong , Kelly and Stephen Roche .

[@jacquesdemolay5171]

Hi, it's 2022. What's next, an update on Watergate? 🤔 Also, you can hate Lance all you want, but to suggest that he was a "nobody" in 1999 conveniently ignores the fact that in the year prior he had finished in 4th overall at the 1998 Vuelta, and had already won the World Championships in 1993, three years before he was even diagnosed with cancer.

[@callumwilekinson3104]

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[@nadinedelle8090]

Troll...

[@olivere5497]

I think Lance was a real American hero and all the haters should leave him alone.

[@boldnessofsouls3502]

You are developmentally disabled.

[@TheFMBBCBM]

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