How Jujutsu Kaisen Handles Zabuza & Haku

[@dananaditya9347]

Yuji & Nobara : *actual sensible tactic which greatly utilize all of their CT Megumi : "if all things go south, then with this treasure i summon.. "

[@quacker2212]

Yuji would convince Haku to become his new brother with strong flashback and the four of them would jump Zabuza together.

[@sreevishva3416]

"Sister"

[@fushiisweep]

Brother.@@sreevishva3416

[@TheTrueTwo]

@@sreevishva3416That’s a guy buddy.

[@yashaoftheflames8475]

​@@sreevishva3416Haku himself says he is a guy

[@ithoughtso.7016]

How could two people miss the joke at once lmao

[@Grayson-Winchester]

I think they would have just attacked the guy who hired Zabuza and Haku. No payment, no contract

[@numberhunter62]

So you'd give them information that not even the main cast had?

[@charlieraikage4158]

​@@numberhunter62they knew who hired them. Just not where he was

[@step1saysomethingcontrover320]

​@@charlieraikage4158didn't the bridge builder hire them?

[@charlieraikage4158]

@@step1saysomethingcontrover320 I was saying they knew who hired Zabuza and Haku.

[@jester_of_MADNESS]

​@@charlieraikage4158It was the guy who had the similar name when your saying cake in French I think Gato or whatever

[@TherapyDerg]

Megumi tripping over a rock "With this treasure, I summon-" He tries to pull off that murder suicide so many times...

[@malumkishin8608]

That's kinda cuz he gets the jogo treatment facing characters that are way to powerful that and he has the mentality of "If I'm going down, I'm taking you with me bitch"

[@ginnungagapabyss5639]

How far Mahoraga could get in the series would be interesting. There are not a lot of attacks that obliterate things like a nuke. Naruto has some Rasengan attacks that attack on a cellular level so that might work, but Sukuna helped Mahoraga adapt toward that. The black flames might work, if it didn't take forever to burn anything.

[@RedLights9000-f3l]

Bro the only one who died because of rasengan was a puppet of itachi

[@srdjanrikic978]

​@@RedLights9000-f3l because naruto wasn't trying to kill anyone and pretty sure that was anime only. Also the normal rasengan doesn't destroy stuff at a cellular level. The rasenshirungen does

[@RedLights9000-f3l]

@@srdjanrikic978 kakuzu survived rasenshiruken and had to be killed by kakashi

[@ginnungagapabyss5639]

@@RedLights9000-f3l and a pain.

[@RedLights9000-f3l]

@@ginnungagapabyss5639 you mean the pupper that was controlled by Nagato ?

[@hobbyhorse5848]

Megumi after being hit by one senbon: With this treasure I summon-

[@azurewraith2585]

Yuji having false memories as an automatic talk no jutsu would be overpowered in the naruto verse.

[@OriginallyEze]

not really since it takes a bit of time to kick in since you saw he needed like 30 seconds for choso to start seeing things, i don’t think they would wait any time to kill yuji

[@dominicwoodford5711]

“Now it’s 5 against one. The question is, do you want these water clones to use water prism or not?” - Zabugoat

[@sixfromtokyo]

Top 10 comment of all time.

[@mattiasilva1705]

"too much water..... Let zap it" Megumi's nue in shikigami language

[@dspace4514]

Im just picturing Nobara using her hammer as a baseball bat against Haku senbons. XD

[@maverickk4910]

The moment i saw the thumbnail i just think "WITH THIS SACRED TREASURE ..."

[@cinderanimations9935]

I think this is a little unfair because team 7 was no where close to lightning speed at this point zabuza was clearly going easy on them and this trio should be facing him at that level

[@Trashiemoviestar]

thats not fair either, why wouldnt haku and zabuza adapt to newer opponents? they arent gonna go easy on them all the time if theyre about to die.

[@silvertongue.242_99]

I agree it isnt, that he is ,lightning speed just cause he scales to kakashi. When tbis kakashi isnt that fast until later it was retcon

[@brandf.7691]

Yeah and at this time in the story Kakashi is only a lightning timer while using chidori, which gives a huge speed boost, and Zabuza couldn't react to it.

[@cinderanimations9935]

@@Trashiemoviestar they both died and they were going easy. But the question was can they do the same mission and hearing that I am assuming that their opponent will be fighting at the same level. The level they were fighting team 7 at I mean

[@jprppf1772]

Zabuza isn't lightning speed.. that's why.. scalling just piss me of nowdays because of dumb shit like this... Zabuza is lightspeed but than got killed by regular ass criminals.. it's so lame, the big 3 scalling is dumb and lam ash

[@NarutoUzumaki-vn3sj]

Idk about Zabuza and Haku but I know FOR SURE the trio can’t handle Kakazu’s raw durability

[@NarutoUzumaki-vn3sj]

Or the 3rd raikage who has more RAW DURABILITY

[@mikedanielespeja6128]

@@NarutoUzumaki-vn3sj but what if Jogoat cooked that raw durability first. Could they handle the cooked durability?

[@divinecheese]

@@mikedanielespeja6128 or miwa the goat slash

[@emssasukeisunderrated7946]

The resonance between the clones is literally only applicable for shadow clones. Any ninjutsu or basic clones it’s never stated the clones get the users experience. Hence why shadow clones (among them being more realistic and you can’t tell them apart from the original at all) are arguably the best clones along with wood clones

[@boneless8473]

that doesnt matter, if they are full of zabuzas chackra they would be able to hurt zabusa through resonance, the same way nobara was able to hurt the death paintings through their blood because their cursed technique was inmbued into it

[@emssasukeisunderrated7946]

@@boneless8473 Wasn’t talking about whether her ability would work just the fact that a clone made from ninjutsu (water clone, lightning clone) is much different from a shadow clone in terms of whether the info goes back to the original. Also we know Shinobi can manipulate and utilize ninjutsu via the elements meaning they aren’t using their chakra. I say this cause in the first battle Zabuza uses water clones when he’s in water. We know that creating jutsu from natural elements doesn’t involve chakra since in Boruto the karma is unable to absorb ninjutsu using natural elements

[@sweatychaw3105]

the rabbits would probably allow them escape haku's dome.

[@dominicwoodford5711]

The rabbits solo until Kiba shows up

[@how2alive79]

if demon dog totality can damage a disaster curse i wouldnt totally rule out the idea of damaging hakus mirror

[@cringemeat9430]

Honestly nobara would SLIGHTLY tip the scales if she was in the haiku situation. She could throw all of her nails on the ground and try to time a hairpin perfectly to try and skewer Haku. Then again, I’d have to be PERFECT timing

[@tra1199]

Or she could hit her nails into any mirror or clone she sees and get a critical hit on them.

[@jester_of_MADNESS]

Yea but don't the ice mirrors reform in the end

[@tra1199]

@combatmadness9705 possibly but she would just be using the mirror to link a direct hit to Haku not necessarily to break the mirror

[@cringemeat9430]

@@jester_of_MADNESS I’m not sure if hairpin could even shatter the mirrors. I’d have to be when she comes out from behind one to throw the needles. Maybe a yuji black flash combined with a hairpin could maybe

[@jester_of_MADNESS]

@@cringemeat9430 true but ya gotta remember that depends if haku is hesitant and if he's not then they arent standing a chance nor is he getting caught

[@onxy1209]

I do want to point out that Megumi needs and enclosed space to use his domain which he wouldn’t have in these fights

[@muntu1221]

Crystal Ice Mirrors

[@pspsmallz]

Haku is smart enough to realize he could just end his jutsu and slaughter them afterwards

[@muntu1221]

@@pspsmallz Like against kyuubi Naruto

[@PeterParker-jz8eo]

He could just lead the enemies to one

[@toweroffrogs9470]

Megumi going to do the "With this treasure I summon thee" cause his ass is too suicidal@@SosukeTYBW

[@Lordmaster135]

I kinda love how in both situations the sensei's are acritical to our trio's surviving although i feel that the jjk trio could survive zabuza's attack although by the skin if their teeth where they'd pull a win but only before fying from blood loss

[@TheDefectiveAI]

I honestly think the first years could have an interesting interaction with the zabuza arc. Ground rules: Cursed Energy = Chakra. Gojo is not here like Kekashi because Zabuza and Haku do not have a counter for Gojo with the timeframe of the arc. JJk characters are Shibuya arc as any earlier would likely be a wash due to lack of combat experience. Points of comparison. Striking power: JJk character use CE to enhance themselves regularly compared to Naruto which is more rare. In the case of Tsunade who does, she breaks building and the ground regularly, and a number of characters consider getting hit by her to be very dangerous. In JJk we see similar cases with characters of 1st grade and higher doing that and characters of second grade taking that. So I think it’s fair to say that punches from JJk character could be dangerous if not lethal to Naruto characters. Strength: not much here, just that some of the upper end JJk characters have lifted weights similar to what characters like Tsunade could. Speed: Keeping it to the zabuza arc, speeds were not really that crazy given that the bridge builder could follow, so they weren’t darting out of his field of view faster than his eye could track (at least in the more open sections) so I think it’s safe to say that Itadori could keep up and Megumi/ Nobara could try to predict their moves. Brothers fight: Like kekashi there is no way megumi is overlooking the puddles so the brothers will lose the element of surprise and get quickly dealt with, especially if they try to poison Yuji. First Zabuza encounter: Zabuza’s silent killing would get the better of all three and if he goes for the head he’ll probably kill all three, though a body shot on Yuji might be workable. The second Zabuza uses hidden mist, megumi would use escape rabbit both to give extra detection for a sneak attack, but also possibly set up itadori for a punch, and nobara for a hairpin. If they succeeded, then Zabuza is going to get dropped and need to get pulled. If they fail (most likely) then Zabuza is going to switch gears and keep a distance with water clone. From there it’ll be a matter of if Nobara can get a resonance off on the water clone, and if Yuji is close enough to capitalize on that when Zabuza gets stunned. Assuming Zabuza doesn’t kill them during the split up, we move to the next part. Change from Naruto: As other pointed out, once the gang learn who ordered the hit, they will go after the mafia guy. The only guards he had that were worth much were Zabuza and haku, the trio would not have trouble with the rest. Second fight: Assuming this fight happens, it’ll be a toss up depending who gets haku Ice Mirrors and who gets Zabuza. Yuji: Could keep Zabuza busy but I don’t think he could win without help. Could deal with haku since his needles only went so far in characters without chakra enhancement, so they would not go deep into Yuji and any poison would not be effective. He could definitely break the ice. Megumi: Would likely be a Toji situation with Zabuza so it’d be a matter if he can force Zabuza into a better situation. For haku, he is not as durable as Yuji, so the needles (along with any poison) will be dangerous. It’d be best if he got out of there fast. Nobara: Unless she gets scrappy with hairpin, she is likely going to be on the back foot.With hairpin, she’ll keep him from using too much ninjutsu. With Haku, same durability as megumi (so a dangerous situation) but if she can get resonance, she can disrupt Haku plenty. Best case scenario is Yuji and Nobara fighting Haku while Megumi holds off Zabuza. Any other combo would be more difficult and potentially a party wipe.

[@chalbramwell5353]

Comparing tsunades punches that's stronger than the raikage who literally hurt 8 tails that tanked a bijuu bomb is insane

[@chalbramwell5353]

No one in jjk ever lift anything close to taunade the frog katana alone shows this

[@chalbramwell5353]

Zabuza is relative to kakashi and kakashi as a 12 yo cut lightning There not keeping up

[@chalbramwell5353]

Haku is stronger than zabuza He'll jus kill them both And megumi ain't holding off zabuza He'll get killed instantly

[@distance7721]

I'm surprised letting Sukuna out never entered into the conversation

[@guyhathansaintil5218]

well yuji would never let him out andd sukuna cant just take over

[@sladelius6174]

​@@guyhathansaintil5218Exactly.

[@divinecheese]

I mean sukuna does want to protect megumi and if sukuna comes out it a guaranteed win

[@guyhathansaintil5218]

@@SosukeTYBW he was about to die plenty of times and he didnt come out

[@guyhathansaintil5218]

@@divinecheese not really he cant come out whwnever he wants he;d have to use enchain but he cant kill people when he does that

[@Malthizar]

Bruh. 3 minutes in and the video is already trash. Chidori/Raikiri are known to *amp your speed* . This means base Kakashi is not "lighting speed" (at least pre shippuden). By that logic you shouldn't be scaling Zabuza anywhere close to lighting speed. That's literally the point of them using a sharingan since they move so fast *with Chidori/Raikiri* that they get tunnel vision. How does Six fuck up so fast?

[@brandonmaynard8518]

THANK YOU!

[@Jarblade101]

Doesn't lighting blade amp speed? I feel like these early arc Naruto characters are not lighting timers, especially not the main trio.

[@hyun1539]

trash opinions all around comments say it all, i hate how all anime scaling is just seen as rock paper scissors biased towards one side i’m not saying jjk trio would win but you ignore so many aspects of their kit and narrow it down to “yuji - tough guy megumi - inventory nobara - sakura pt2 but none of that matters cause naruto characters too fast” just huge bias all around

[@zigazdovc6175]

They get dog walked by Zabuza alone, Hakus Kekkei Genkai is just overkill.

[@divinecheese]

You mean they get dog walk by sukuna alone

[@zigazdovc6175]

Live in your delusion.@@divinecheese

[@blockypanda229]

Granted Megumi does summons Maho it would be win since maho won't hurt yuji or nobara unless they interrupt Maho killing Megumi and the other target of the ritual And i don't think we are seeing sukuna vs maho level destruction so yuji and nobara will probably survive That said neither yuji or nobara will let megumi just die so there is that

[@Elite_Trainer]

That's not how it works really Everyone that is in that area automatically becomes the part of that ritual meaning if maho is summoned everyone within that area would be it's target and it would attack everyone regardless Megumi can't choose who maho attacks if he could've he wouldn't have talked about inumaki clearing the area of all the transfigured humans and other people Plus he could've used him against Toji but it might've affected everyone there (maki, nanami and naobito) which is why he tried to get away from there as fast as he can

[@theonlychickensama8353]

​@@Elite_TrainerThank God someone remembered how the s#it worked. People are acting like summoning Maho isn't just a group suicide as opposed to a win con

[@ლუკაფოფხაძე-ღ1ზ]

It's slow af compared to them anyway

[@ლუკაფოფხაძე-ღ1ზ]

​@@SosukeTYBWtoo bad Haku will wipe them out in no time since he is lightspeed+

[@AndyTF141]

And please for the love of Jhon anime, stop claiming anybody can go lightspeed, if that was the case it was refered to the mirror movement, but it was a hoax because of the way sasuke could see follow it, because funnily enough, you wouldn't be able to see something moving at lightspeed regardles if you have the sharingan because light would have to perfectly hit what you are seeing perfectly to give you an acurate immage, otherwise youd see a blur if anything at all, That said, my favorite argument to disprove lightspeed when it comes to things with mass, IF you could, becuase it's impossible but IF you could move anything with mass at light speed, it would have so much energy that just a pebble hittin anything at that speed would be like a damn nuke going off, and we are ignoring friction aswell, if haku was that fast she would just cook herself our of friction with the atmosphere. Anime is anime, don't if you are going to powerscale fictional stuff it doesn't makes sense to involve physics, Don't overestimate a characters feats just because of statements of the authors, specially when the feats contradict said statements.

[@NeoCinnamon]

I like how if we did an actual mirror match yknow, having Gojo stand in for Kakashi, it'd be a wash. But because we are taking out Gojo, it's like if Team 7 fought them without Kakashi (which they'd lose) Also Nobara action is something that would be cool cause we didn't see any from Sakura that fight.

[@drako.g]

Megumi against any strong oponent : Guess I'll summon Mahoraga.

[@Melody-bp4tu]

Short answer: no, either zabuza/haiku sweeps or maharaga wins. If gojo steps in he wins, zabuza doesn’t have an out for infinity

[@trev9168]

They all dead before they blink. They are no where near fast enough to keep up

[@BigBlacKMan90210]

People underestimating JJK characters way too much Sukuna and Gojo can be scaled to Madara level

[@trev9168]

@@BigBlacKMan90210 tripping

[@trev9168]

@@BigBlacKMan90210 you realize the speed difference is a few Thousand times right?

[@remus4283]

Everyone keeps saying Gojo wins when his match up doesn't have an out for infinity, as if infinity isn't a defensive ability. At best Gojo is just a glorified tank outside of his verse. He can keep himself safe but would be powerless to actually stop anyone.

[@godgod4226]

poppin mahoraga on Zabuza would be insanity 💀

[@sweatychaw3105]

also, those little needles wouldn't do anything to them damage wise and megumi could probably break the mirrors with the bull or the elephant.

[@CerotheDemon]

The trio gets into deep, Gojo teleports in raining down blue and red. Hes pissed because they nearly killed his students, he black flashes Zabuza out of existence, Haku’s mirrors are getting Hollow Purpled and Haku insta dies. Mahoraga or Gojo are their win conditions. They just have to hold out.

[@thehonoredone8470]

LFG!!!! Now I just need a collab between Six, No OP’s, and BR all on one video and I’ll feel complete

[@vander.pageee]

mugumi and nobara pov: doing actually sensible attacks yuji pov: *switches to sukuna* domain expansion malevolent shrine

[@TheTrueTwo]

*Megumi: When in doubt, SACRED TREASURE OUT*

[@mbekontinini9580]

how can he sink zabuza when shinobi can walk on all surfaces

[@sageoverheaven]

They need to consciously do it. What he did with Toji would still work.

[@valenschristianyosua5699]

This is basically just the trio vs toji and uraume with amped speed honestly

[@att3ri5]

With this treasure I summon

[@fatherofjman2475]

I feel like Zabuza would toy with them for a while and mess with them like he did canonically. This could allow them to set up a resonance, Lighting Birb, Black flash Combo that could in theory put Zabuza down/Knock him back long enough for haku to do the neck barb thing once Gojo shows up. Then we get a Near death Sekuna Flash against haku…or the Weird flashback manipulation of yuji flips Haku and they jump Zabuza.

[@MZOver]

My first instinct was Not well

[@Awakened_Mucacha]

The jjk jumping will have to be on point.

[@metatron107]

I've got a really good one that will probably cause a lot of controversy. *_Why Dante vs Saitama isn't even close_*

[@ShichiNanaSeven]

No op and Six. We gotta run this one up!

[@keshawnjenkins7051]

Mental amps is nun put a plot device that allows weak characters to be stronger wen the moment needs it

[@isaiahminott]

Huh…so this is what it feels like for dbz fans when compared to Naruto…..

[@littrendary2677]

I wanna see how Sukuna would hold up (15 fingers since mahoraga is also in this video) against Zabuza and Haku since Sukuna is stronger than Mahoraga who could conditionally beat Zabuza and Haku and since Sukuna's domain could break the ice mirrors. It would be really interesting.

[@yeikelamores6085]

Sukuna tramples people much superior to Zabuza

[@Lormingo16]

Haku put them inside his domain expansion they’re runtz lol !

[@Official_NOM_]

Y’all actually are crazy

[@shadowboi8620]

Video idea: Shibuya Yuji, Nobara, and Megumi vs Mahito.

[@wolfkingomega1405]

Aftet thinking 😂 about it more. Gojo don't even need his domain for haku. Just use max blue and its over. All the mirrors are broken

[@Active264]

No

[@PlanetDiablo16967]

I don't like the idea of equalizing energy sources primarily because these two energy sources function completely differently and have different sources.

[@Akiraspin]

The irony is that Haku is so much more dangerous than Zabuza. Zabuza is just more brutal and scary. Haku genuinely has a broken fucking Kekkei Genkai with *disgusting* efficiency and nerves. Dudes like 15 and he no hesitation prepares himself to be a suicide flak jacket for Zabuza to kill Kakashi and if Kakashi was one tenth less effective of a shinobi he's dead.100%

[@Raptor727]

Ok but if megumi even gets scratched…💀

[@TF_MJezzy]

This is literally what we have come to, they want to hate on JJK so bad they take Gojo out of the equation who would literally one shot Zabuza when in the original fight their Sensei Kakashi carry more than half of that fight but Gojo can be in it and I know he added Gojo at the end of the vid.

[@TF_MJezzy]

People try to downplay JJK power system so much like I understand it's not the strongest power system but you're acting like they're not going to be able to do no damage like that's not true. They're strong enough to hit people through buildings take being thrown through a building like their power system isn't ass like people try to make it seem. They are strong AF Yuji literally cracks the ground when he jumps. Nobody is surviving Gojo's domain expansion, unless they have their own domain which they don't or they are touching Gojo

[@jjkila8329]

Now We Need The “Can The Akatsuki Capture Sukuna ?” Vid

[@mjolninja9358]

No

[@zigazdovc6175]

They dog walk him, Deidara is enough, Pain and Obito low diff the Verse.

[@sleepyschneider]

More no op heat love the video

[@sonicvids]

Just based on statements of how durable special grade curses are.. Demon Dog Totality 's claws alone should be able to damage the ice mirrors, let alone Yuji "Left Right Goodnight" Itadori punching them with his FULL strength. Hairpin should just outright catch Zabuza off guard if not kill him on the spot (if the Demon Wind fakeout got him then Hairpin probably could since it isnt a technique he'd be familiar with or look out for especially against children). Also, Sukuna does play a factor just as much as the Fox does.. if Megumi is in mortal danger, and Yuji is feeling so inclined, then he just shows up and actually erases these two instantly.

[@Lordmaster135]

Hmm this guy on point

[@rinnerebirth1171]

It depends on If you’re giving yuuji 15 finger sukuna or not 🤷‍♂️ if it is 15 finger than yeah he can come out and use dismantle/cleave on haku and zabuza, but even then they’re still technically relative in speed even with sukuna being at 15-20f

[@sonicvids]

@@rinnerebirth1171 honestly? Idc if its the 2 finger Sukuna that fought the special grade. Malevolent Shrine is just instant death. Even dismantle will just gimp Zabuza immediately, and Haku's speed doesnt matter in a domain. Plus.... RCT. Remember when 3 finger Sukuna threw Megumi through the sky and jumped to follow him for like, a county mile? Yeah, Zabuza and Haku aint fucking with that at all.

[@rinnerebirth1171]

@@sonicvids but they are… megumi getting perception blitzed is more of an ode to how weak he is at that point in the series, malevolent shrine isn’t a guranteed kill either way, seeing as people in his own verse who are weaker than haku and zabuza were able to tank it

[@sonicvids]

@@rinnerebirth1171 who the fuck tanked Malevolent Shrine?

[@edocursedmark2693]

13:06 thats itachis water bullets 😂😂

[@tommyg4842]

I unsubscribed from six so I was surprised by this one

[@8CDBeach8]

Yuji is not timing lightspeed Haku and he’s def not restraining him and the fact they said he has no durability feats when he took a full rage punch from Ninetails influence Naruto is pretty wild of him taking attacks from Lee and Guy in the war

[@8CDBeach8]

Still enjoyed the discussion and the video btw those points just kind of bugged me

[@ლუკაფოფხაძე-ღ1ზ]

​@BravoRox it will because he can hit spots that instantly kill you.

[@divinecheese]

@@ლუკაფოფხაძე-ღ1ზ what about sukuna who doesn't need vitals organs even in yuji body and has a power equivalent to a cluster bomb

[@wolfkingomega1405]

Btw if haku goes into his mirrors and gojo uses domine gojo wins. Haku has to come out of the mirrors to attack. At that point he would get hit by the void. If he stays in the mirror gojo can just break them. Also haku mirrors area of effects is not big at all. A small shack at the most. Gojos domain is massive. He can even expand it to the size of a city. This was displayed when he fought sukana

[@OluwaT]

Didn't know 200 meters was the size of a city😂

[@alexweil7296]

​@OluwaT where are you getting 200 meters? You talking about sukunas domain?

[@OluwaT]

@@alexweil7296 yeah

[@alexweil7296]

@@OluwaT i gotchu, unless im misreading the original comment is talking about gojos domain not sukunas

[@Martishim]

With This Sacred Trasure I Summon…

[@MeraFinnaci]

O shit you got Six on here too? nice

[@malumkishin8608]

.......I'mma just say if Sukuna comes out,bro is gonna no dif Haku & Zabuza cause Malevolent Shrine with erase them.

[@divinecheese]

Faxs

[@zigazdovc6175]

And then Kurama comes out and dog walks Sukuna back to the afterlife... Stop wanking, JJK characters are weak.

[@divinecheese]

@@zigazdovc6175 it not a wank it just faxs each finger of sukuna equal to a special grade and you need a cluster bomb amount of force to take one out stated in chapter 6 or episode 4 if you watch the anime

[@divinecheese]

@@zigazdovc6175 also full power sukuna takes out full power kurama

[@zigazdovc6175]

Its a dog walk for Kurama, go back to your low power verse, JJK dick rider.@@divinecheese

[@caliveil1627]

Why are we acting like the other shikigami don't exist. It can damage a special grade and shatter the mirrors. Rabbit Escape could act as a shield against the needles. And max elephant could likely mess with the mirrors

[@muntu1221]

Max Elephant is probably big enough to just take up all the space in the mirrors.

[@divinecheese]

Rabbit 247 might win

[@numberhunter62]

Those mirrors can tank Sasuke's fire style jutsu, which have elemental advantage over ice. And even before this Sasuke's fireball jutsu could create a small crater in the ground. So no, Max Elephants size and weight aren't shattering these mirrors. Now the Divine Dog on the other hand can shatter them. However, Haku easily scales above Temari who has similar showings as special grade curses. And speed wise Haku would definitely scale above Toji, who was already forcing Megumi to strongly concentrate, and even then Megumi ended up misjudging. And when Megumi isn't extremely focused he was unable to even tell when he was thrown out of a building.

[@yeikelamores6085]

​@@numberhunter62First, Part 1 temari doesn't scale even remotely close to Special Grade curses, if you're talking about the forest, that was a summon whoever did it,It wasn't temari, it's like saying that Naruto part 1 is Bijuu level by Gamabunta and Haku doesn't scale anywhere remotely close to Toji, at all

[@ZestyyNero]

I still remember when i thought that haku was a girl

[@matheusdemello2323]

How would the jujutsu handle the international assassins arc with the goal of the assassin being trying to get Yuji like Denji in Chainsaw Man?

[@summitsview871]

I will be honest, I don't understand how the JJK trio would do worse than the Naruto Trio. Like if you were to pit both teams against each other, I'm under the impression that the JJK Trio would win every time. The closest fight in it would be Yuji vs Naruto because Naruto would be able to overwhelm Yuji with clones and could stomp him if he used the nine-tails chakra but, at the same time, from how durable Yuji is, his martial arts, his striking power and speed, I think it would be 7-3 that Yuji would win. Megumi and Nobara stomp Sasuke and Sakura, low diff. When it comes to fighting Zabuza, I don't think the trio would have too much of a problem. With the help of fleeing hares, the would be able to escape the mist zone or even use it as a barrier that Zabuza would have to get through to even attack them. Also let's not forget that Megumi is able to reach to Toni during Shibuya, someone that is compared to 3 finger Sukuna, someone that was literally flinging Megumi through multiple building and was able to travel fast enough to not only catch up but, be in the place megrim would fly out of before he was there. Zabuza has never shown a feat even close to this. I have no reason to believe that Megumi wouldn't be able to respond to Zabuza and even if he couldn't on his own, demon dog totality would have no problem avoiding Zabuza. Nobara would be in trouble and Yuji may have a bit of trouble but, overall, the would win. With demon dog, fleeing hares and even Gama, I don't see how Megumi would get tagged by Zabuza. Yuji could possibly avoid Zabuza, I say this because he was able to dodge a piercing blood on after seeing it one time, has speed scaling relative to Megumi in Shibuya. Haku wouldn't be different though, first, megumi could literally put up his domain, the ice mirrors would create a space in which he could form his domain inside of. I have no reason to believe the Haiku's mirrors would have an anti-domain property. Also, Yuji would be able to smash the ice, his physical feats are way too high to say otherwise. He literally has the strength to throws cars casually has the ability to damage one of the most durable disaster curses, Hanami. He's been shown to shatter the ground with one punch in his fight with mahito similar to Sakura in part 2 BEFORE he even knows how to control cursed energy properly. Once they get outside of the mirror's they win.

[@thehonoredvessel2745]

@@SosukeTYBW the ice mirrors literally only broke when a nine tails amped Naruto was angry. What do you think they’re doing? The fact of the matter is the JJK verse is massively out scaled by even early Naruto characters.only the top tiers like Sukuna and Gojo really stand a chance.

[@zigazdovc6175]

Sukuna and Gojo would be avarage Kage level characters in Naruto, stronger Kages, most Uchihas, most Bijuu, and other Naruto top tiers dog walk those 2. @@thehonoredvessel2745

[@stealthily6668]

​@thehonoredvessel2745 I feel like you're overscaling the Naruto-verse. From every comment I've seen from you, you're dickriding Naruto like it's your religion. Jeez, dude, early Naruto characters aren't even that powerful.

[@thehonoredvessel2745]

@@stealthily6668 I’m not I don’t even care for Naruto scaling that much the fact of the matter is the jjk verse gets over scaled scarily so even though attacks moving at the speed of sound are said to be incredibly impressive. If that’s impressive Naruto who by the end of the series is around that speed is pretty much a top tier in jjk

[@thehonoredvessel2745]

@@stealthily6668 I’m not saying their powerful it’s just the massive speed difference in both verses

[@moneyman90s]

it seems... someone cooked here...

[@tra1199]

If the team can protect nobara i believe her and gojo will be the reason they win. She can nail the water clones or possible nail hakus mirrors which would desl a direct hit and with haku not having great durability they could take him out

[@andriagamgoneishvili8468]

meguna summons mahoraga.

[@Bbslushieee]

Toji vs zabuza would be such a fun fight to see though highkey

[@Bbslushieee]

@gojodagoat1691 idk bruh toji best feat is he looked st a lightning attack before it hit. Him. Dudes mach 3-mach 9. Zabuza fighting lighting speed characters and at least keeping up. Personally id like to see the speed somewhat equalized. Visually, it would just be a dope fight

[@divinecheese]

@@Bbslushieee toji can beat a special grade curse spirit in his own domain which in chapter 6 or episode 4 in the anime tell you that you need a force of a cluster bomb to take out a special grade zabuza most likely not winning

[@Bbslushieee]

@divinecheese4493 idk bro maki was like a 2nd grade and injured dagon. And nanami and the old man were straight dogging on him til he opened his domain and they got haxed. I truly dont thin dagon is all that. Being special grade spirit aint shit we saw megami and yuji down those very early on. I know all special grades arent equal but my point is that title aint shit

[@divinecheese]

@@Bbslushieee Maki was a grade 4 and was using a special grade weapon aka playful cloud

[@Bbslushieee]

@@divinecheese i mean that furthers my point. Dagon trash

[@Mrnevertalks]

Before watching the video: I don't the full extent of verse equalization here, but very few shinobi show the physical stats of Itadori. Part 2 Sakura sure, but no one in Part One except for level 2 Curse Mark Tayuya and Jirobo from what I recall could break boulders apart with their bare hands. Itadori was also able to react to a grade 2 or semi grade 1 curse before even swallowing Sukuna's finger, so I don't think he would necessarily have issue perceiving Zabuza if he wasn't attacking from the mist. Secondly, I don't think Shinobi can fortify their bodies with chakra in the same way sorcerers can. Teen Gojo got stabbed in the chest and lived, that would would be fatal to most shinobi without a medical ninja. I also don't know of any shinobi aside from Asuma who coat their weapons in chakra, so under the assumption Zabuza's sword isn't Chakra/CE reinforce, it could probably be broken bare handed by a CE reinforced attack. Lastly, when we take the individual abilities of the JJK trio into account, and their mindset difference to team 7, I think they have an edge. Megumi is like an animal path Pain that is also proficient with ninja tools and taijutsu. I don't know how domains translate in this setting, but I don't think Zabuza is handling 3 or 4 Totality dogs. On top of that, Yuji's physical stats would probably allow him to keep up with Zabuza's assassination attacks. Finally, I imagine resonance would work well against Haku's crystal ice mirrors since they not only contain his chakra, but they are a kekkei genkai directly connected to his genes. Also, I don't think Nobara would have an issue using hairpin to blow up the bridge, and Megumi could just use Nue to electrocute the water once Zabuza/Haku fall in. Let's see how this goes though. EDIT: I'm anime only on Naruto and don't think I've seen all of shippuden, so I wasn't aware the scaling got so crazy. I will still hold the point that Haku should be able to be taken out by Nobara since she can attack from range unlike part 1 Sakura, and if nothing else Megumi could summon max elephant to shield himself and Yuji from Haku's attacks (it would probably take longer for Haku to toss enough needles and kunai to really harm max elephant than it would to run out of chakra). Zabuza may tougher without Gojo, but I see ways the JJK trio could eek out a win if he is there.

[@remus4283]

You don't know what you're talking about. For perspective Toji is weaker that 4th gate part 1 Rock Lee, who is in turn weaker than BASE Might Guy. If you're talking specifically about the Kanoha 12, then you might have a point, but just about every Jonin is AT LEAST relative to Toji in physical stats. JJK's power ceiling is really not very high, and it doesn't need to be. A story can still be good even if its characters would lose a lot of cross-universe fights.

[@Jsipki265]

Yeah sounds like you don't scale naruto at all if haven't read shippuden

[@Jsipki265]

@@SosukeTYBW 1. that was to point out he doesn't really know the series to scale it 2. the trio is dying.

[@fbafoundationalbuck-broken6011]

@@remus4283 nothing you said is based on anything.

[@NPC_NEWS]

​@@fbafoundationalbuck-broken6011 I think what they are trying to say is that 1 rock lee would slap and tap Itadori as a kid which is part 1. Assuming that the verse actually knows how to scale ninja, zabuza being a higher rank then rock lee kinda slaps around itadori and the crew. If we assume Kakashi who scales to might guy is stronger then rock lee and kakashi was able to get trapped in a water prison by zabuza then I have a hard time seeing how they would win. Simplified wording of my logic: Lee > Boulder level Commenter used Boulder level to say "Itadori is so strong" Might guy > Lee Kakashi = Might guy Zabuza trapped Kakashi How is Itadori beating Zabuza even if we don't take into account kakashi scaling to lightning speed. Now keep in mind I haven't watched Naruto in a while so i'm refraining from saying Zabuza is relative to Kakashi but even assuming Zabuza is like half of what kakashi is at this level, if we say Itadori is equal to rock lee, Zabuza absolutely slaps around Itadori and if I'm to be honest Nobara as well which would leave Megumi. Megumi in a 2v1 against Zabuza and Haku is forcing him to summon mahoraga and if simply one of them is outside of the range at which they would be considered a part of the ritual then even that wouldn't work because Mahoraga would kill one, kill megumi and piss off.

[@hmmmmmm6901]

Naruto is so good, the animanga community need to stop hating on this GOAT of fiction

[@iketurner_]

Megumi would summon Mahoraga then boom .. nobody wins , GGs

[@nxkxnxn_trxmppxge8856]

Secret treasure swing is enough

[@JUU2COOL]

haku blitzes the whole verse besides gojo and I haven’t even watched the video

[@OmniDarkz]

Being generous and highballing maybe Sukuna and Kashimo as well

[@sageoverheaven]

Haku isn't blitzing the top tiers after 237. Kashimo uses EM waves and Sukuna dodged an EM blast point-blank while almost dead.

[@antx_soulsborne_meat_rider]

What break week does to mfs

[@Zipper_reppiZ]

With this treasure I summon

[@Blawatowski]

How does anyone get the idea that naruto characters are some lightspeed gods. Stronger part of jjk verse is falling behind only after late part of war arc, but i dont see even akatsuki level people get through our typical domain expansion and sure hit effects. I love both series, but the power scaling community really made people look at some cherrypicked random things, not the power system itself and stuff that is acctualy in manga.

[@SkeetWeet4368]

Characters in Naruto have lightning-speed and higher speed feats. And explain how these feats are "cherry picked" , are they cherry picked because theyre actually cherry picked or are they cherry picked because you dont like the fact that half of Naruto characters would blitz the shit out of 99% of JJK cast ? . And how does the "power system" affect that ? And anyone in the Akatsuki apart from maybe sasori would destroy everyone in the JJK verse except Gojo & Sukuna . And a domain isn't doing jackshit because they need time to get activated

[@Blawatowski]

@@SkeetWeet4368 ever heard about gojo and mahito 0.2 domain expansion? Please give me some exact number that appear in naruto manga (not some databook) that may suggest that some low tier naruto characters are comparable. I think that power scaling community is cherrypicking because they are using overinterpretation, mixing of real life physics with vague statments, not even considering what kishimoto wanted to show. You want to tell me that kakashi dogs that caught zabuza where some lighting level creatures? I will say that to be clear: i do not really care what verse is stronger, who would blitz who and if Hidan is lightspeed, but i think that people get bad impression about naruto as a whole because of it. I can recomend DygoKnight channel, he makes great Naruto content and i like his take on power scaling.

[@SkeetWeet4368]

@@Blawatowski 1)a 0.2 second domain expansion is ridiculously slow 💀💀 Let me give you a little bit of context .An Slightly Athletic REAL LIFE HUMAN has 0.25 second reaction speed and 0.013 second perception speed , Now imagine how much faster a Supersonic-Lightning speed shinobi's R/P speed would be 2)You have yet to explain why the powerscaling cherry picks things and you have yet to provide a common example (i.e. dumb metas like FTL kid Naruto or Infinte speed Naruto don't count) 3.Kishimoto regularly uses Real life scientific concepts in Naruto , very niche and scientific things like optical nerves and cumonlinbus clouds are mentioned multiple times in the series 5. Interpretation of media is up to the reader, most authors leave things vague and open for interpretation. There is a whole principle in literature based on this (show don't tell) 6.Dygoknight is a subpar source for Naruto powerscaling, a lot of his takes get debunked dozens of times over and a lot of folk don't trust him 7.I don't care too much about powerscaling, But I care about intellectual honesty because intellectual honesty makes discussion fun and decreases toxicity

[@numberhunter62]

@@Blawatowski What Kishimoto intended doesn't really matter. Also, don't use Dygoknight as a powerscaling source, the dude doesn't rank Hokage Naruto as the strongest Hokage. That's literally a free ranking and he messed that up! He also believes Night Guy is on a similar level to 6psm Naruto. Even removing his Boruto takes because he doesn't like it and thus downplays the hell out of it, he still has some booty cheeks scaling.

[@kingnaruto2971]

You know what would be a great video idea🤔 switching the roles of the jjk trio and Division 4 from chainsaw man it would be fun seeing how the JJK group would compare facing stuff like the eternity devil and the Doll Devil and how would the C.M group would compare going up against the finger bearers and 3 finger Sukuna etc plus both shows shouldn't be that far from each other in terms of scaling rather the two should be kinda relative to each other👀 Just an idea.

[@mrsticky005]

Gojo vs Tonbo Tobitake Yuji: Who the hell are you and the hell you say? Tonbo: I don't need to answer your questions. You need to answer mine. Where are the diamonds? Gojo: Up yours, ya bandaged freak. Get lost. Tonbo: Kids these days always with the attitude. Hand over the diamonds. Gojo: You wanna scrap? I'm bored anyways. Tonbo: I'm a ninja. Trust me son, you don't want these hands. Gojo: Bet. I'll kick ya ass six ways to sunday. Ninjutsu ain't got shit on Jujutsu. Tonbo: Hah! Kid has got jokes. Yuji: let me take on this clown. I can beat him. Gojo: Nah you'd lose Tonbo: You too. Ninja speed Yuji: That was fast as fuck. He just appeared in front of Gojo but... Gojo: You just reposted in the wrong neighborhood.LIMITLESS! Yuji: Limitless brings the concept of infinity to reality Megumi and Nobara: Shut up dork Yuji: ok Tonbo: Your limitless...KAPOW Gojo: ugh! my structural integrity Tonbo: ...is limited. Tonbo removes his bandages. He looks just like Gojo but cooler. Tonbo: Too easy.

[@joshuafrazier3904]

Does Haku low-key solo? With ice mirrors

[@sageoverheaven]

​@@SosukeTYBWThe first years have a massive speed disadvantage. Subsonic speeds are a 50/50 dodge for Yuji (during the time Nobara was alive), who is physically the strongest and fastest of the three. Zabuza would easily blitz and kill.

[@thehonoredvessel2745]

@@BravoRoxyou seem to forget the kakashi has ninja hounds if it was that easy to sniff out zabuza he would have used it in the beginning the fact of the matter is, they’re getting beat by Zabuza or Haku. They’re not fast enough to keep up with them, and even though they might have the AP to keep up, they don’t have the skill speed or hacks. unless we take each of these characters at their strongest points, they’re losing pretty badly

[@thehonoredvessel2745]

@@BravoRox so you have no actual evidence you’re just saying something without any proof

[@thehonoredvessel2745]

@@BravoRox even if he didn’t, he was only able to get them to sniff out Zaba out when he had Zabuza cut him and had his blood on him so unless Megumi comes up with the same plan, the hounds aren’t gonna work.

[@odinson2273]

Not in the slightest. Jjk characters are significantly higher than anyone who isn't a Hokage, Sannin, or jin in pt 1. Sukuna would absolutely dog walk Zabuza and Haku, too.

[@Arma-S]

Do reverse now. Trio(s) vs shibuya

[@Bradmagus]

The jjk x naruto crossover goes hard

[@WeebGuru6]

If sukuna pulls up to save megumi then it’s a wrap

[@divinecheese]

Well not megumi since sukuna doesn't want to kill him

[@SkeetWeet4368]

That's not a wincon for the JJK trio .

[@WeebGuru6]

@@SkeetWeet4368 who said it was😂😂😂

[@divinecheese]

@@SkeetWeet4368 i mean 2 out of the three will survive

[@remus4283]

In this case yea... but keep in mind that Sukuna would scale to a mid tier akatsuki member. So in the grand scheme of things...

[@Gdrez]

Couldn’t you say. Gojo Protects them from Mahorga

[@divinecheese]

Or sukuna

[@divinecheese]

@@BravoRox sukuna inside yuji so kinda can't remove him from the argument

[@divinecheese]

@@BravoRox I mean yuji in part of the video it like adding kid Naruto without kurama

[@divinecheese]

@@BravoRox I mean it like having a Naruto debate without kurama and I'm saying it highly likely sukuna would appear to protect megumi

[@pspsmallz]

bruh jjk trio would get destroyed, especially if it's just them without anyone else helping 😂

[@divinecheese]

If sukuna comes out at all they definitely win

[@OluwaT]

Sukuna is not coming out💀

[@divinecheese]

@@OluwaT he can come out if you remember his binding vow with yuji and he not letting megumi die

[@ლუკაფოფხაძე-ღ1ზ]

​@divinecheese4493 how much fingers? Cuz I doubt he can do shit vs Haku anyway

[@divinecheese]

@@ლუკაფოფხაძე-ღ1ზ two at bare minimum but he shown he can use a domain expansion at any fingers also zabuza and especially Haku don't have the fire power to take out sukuna

[@anthonymorenosorto2743]

In my opinion they would be able to pull it off without much effort, mainly because nobara would be way more useful then sakura was in this arc, and I would say yuji and megumi wouldn’t take that long to beat haku consider yuji is definitely strong enough to break the ice and the ten shadows would help out a lot, not including gojo since the trio wouldn’t really need to do anything if he is their

[@chalbramwell5353]

Claming megumi and yuji can beat haku means your claming they can beat kakashi

[@anthonymorenosorto2743]

@@chalbramwell5353 I don’t see why they can’t beat them both to be honest

[@chalbramwell5353]

@anthonymorenosorto2743 bro what if u think this then u think they can fight obito without getting 1 tapped. Do u honestly see them holding there own against a tailed beast

[@anthonymorenosorto2743]

@@chalbramwell5353 this is them facing against haku and zabuza, not the jujutsu trio vs team 7

[@chalbramwell5353]

@anthonymorenosorto2743 bro haku is stronger than kakashi and zabuza is relative to kakashi and kakashi can fight tailed beasts Saying they can beat haku is stupid

[@AndyTF141]

Im pretty sure totality and itadori could break the ice from haku

[@sinoxolombovane5455]

@@SosukeTYBW really are they on Naruto nine tails amp level I don't think so

[@stealthily6668]

​@sinoxolombovane5455 they're not on that level, they're definitely past it.

[@sinoxolombovane5455]

@@stealthily6668 explain yourself

[@cheecanpeecan1838]

Can't Yuji throw entire freaking cars by early Shibuya???? He ABSOLUTELY can break the mirrors are you mad

[@cheecanpeecan1838]

A 10 year old with demon powers is not outscaling a jacked 16 year old MADE to hold demon powers

[@Jsipki265]

@@cheecanpeecan1838 Demon powers that can nuke countries stop artificially wanking jjk man

[@thehonoredvessel2745]

@@BravoRoxhe really doesn’t

[@thehonoredvessel2745]

@@BravoRox you’re severely overestimating yuji strength and underestimating the amped Naruto with the nine tails even though that amped Naruto would literally blitz yuji again. The only reason Haku mirrors were broken, was because one he was tired and two because Naruto got amped by a demon fox that literally has the power to turn the world into ash

[@thehonoredvessel2745]

@@BravoRox also, what I meant was yuji does not punch faster or harder than a nine tails amp Naruto

[@iftekharahmad2423]

Haku has durability feat. He took punch from Naruto and didn't die.

[@HIMTHEONEANDONLY]

If mahoraga fights naruto and he doesnt one shot him is over, because mahoraga will adap to chakra and any attacks contsining chakra would be useless. The only one who could do something would be Guy The Goat, he was able to bend reality and almost kill madara.

[@OmniDarkz]

You guys are ridiculous. Mahoraga didn't even nullify the energy source in his own verse curse energy 😂😂😂. Unless you belive in all the prior rituals including the one that killed a former six eyes and limitless user that no used one technique that contained curse energy.

[@HIMTHEONEANDONLY]

@@OmniDarkz I say this because some attacks in naruto are just made out of puré chakra and dont come from a jutsu. For example a bujidama is just a lot chakra made onto a bomb. While jutsu's are just abilities powered by chakra. At least that's what I understood.

[@Trashiemoviestar]

@@HIMTHEONEANDONLYyou cant adapt to chakra and even if you could what would that do? You can master all 5 chakra natures in naruto and still be just as vulnerable to jutsu as everyone else. only exceptions being the otsutsuki because they just suck up everything. Adaptin would jus…give you chakra??? you can adapt to certain attacks LIKE the bijudama. but not the bijudamas pure chakra form. just how much power it output. so if mahoraga was hit with a bijudama and wasnt one shot(he would be lol) then nothing below a bijudama would be able to harm him after a while. Thats not adapting to chakra. and there are also instant kills in naruto. considering everyone is supremely faster idk why it wouldnt work

[@Vextipher]

​@HIMTHEONEANDONLY I haven't brushed up but I think it was mentioned about Mahoraga adapting to Sukuna's Disect/Cleave than just cutting in general. Would think that'd be the case here if so

[@darthchungus9964]

mahoraga gets punched once by naruto and he dies even if he adapts to one Rasengan naruto pulls out 76 different varitions with hundreds of his clones to bombrush him at the same time

[@AFed69]

Why did bro show a itachi databook scan with underlines while talking about haku

[@AFed69]

@BravoRox id say it was a mistake but he underlined it so it had to be intentional

[@Infinite8blue]

You guys severely underplayed Megumi, Megumi would use rabbit escape to counter Haku's mirror. Yuji have shown greater strength feats in episode of jjk compared to Naruto in his first 10 episodes. Yuji is not an idiot like Naruto and Megumi is more strategic fighter

[@thehonoredvessel2745]

The rabbits are getting blitz, like Naruto shadow clones did

[@ლუკაფოფხაძე-ღ1ზ]

​@BravoRox but he can catch those rabbits and him

[@blaneonthemoon2507]

Yeah jjk cast gets wiped here unless we even it out for entertainment purposes

[@fbafoundationalbuck-broken6011]

What exactly is lightning speed? Every big or little move done by kakashi is lightning speed? Does he block at lightning speed? Is his movement speed from rest to active is lightning speed? Does he need to build up momentum to be at lightning speed? This is the problem with scalers, they take any little feat and turn it into the norm like everything the person's does is at that exact same speed and then give every random character the person fight that feat. The speed kakashi has when using chidori is not his normal fighting speed.

[@ajr4888]

It's one of the numerous reasons why power scaling is ass

[@dominicwoodford5711]

As someone who’s huge into physics and is a martial artist I feel for you on this. I have to hold my common sense back when dealing with this stuff else wise I’d go crazy 😂😂😂

[@chalbramwell5353]

Bro u do know kakashi did all this at 12 right And was shown doing this without chidori

[@vander.pageee]

@cinderanimations I agree with you they are being hard on jjk

[@konradoles1848]

Truly agree

[@AstarothG59]

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