How Karmine Corp OUTSMARTED Fnatic! | Fnatic vs Karmine Corp Analysis

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[@cyrus6560]

11:40 "KC playing the clock to perfection". Remember the last time Karmine Corp and 'time' were mentioned in the same sentence?

[@spiltlava9699]

"TIME? TIME?"

[@Brolojojo]

@@spiltlava9699MY EYEES MY EYES

[@AlmSeeShiq]

as a Karmine fan i prefer not pls

[@Elon_Muscle_]

​@@AlmSeeShiqyeah its just our first year on valorant idk what he's talking about, bro IS crazy

[@trollmaintopg704]

Melonsss!! 💀

[@TheEL1te]

Kc and th did the unthinkable

[@vitorx4]

not really, imo both navi and fnatic are just outdated and oversaturated. they are definetly great and have strong players, but the lack of creativity makes it so newcomers can catch them off guard. surely, both TH and KC made amazing upsets, but it's not "unthinkable", just quite surprising.

[@Flipnhaole]

They did the funniest thing

[@z-t0xx437]

i liked the fnc era but this new year could be even better

[@burni988]

I love it when Pansy says that.

[@selfconscience]

They did the unTHinKCable

[@ankitghosh1973]

LETS FING GO THE INTRO IS BACK!!!

[@3RSTE]

I'm starting to think that not specifically the players but the coach matter the most.

[@rylandaly7752]

Not a bad take. Look at eg last year few roster changes and then they were home free with potter

[@MilaneseMoon]

@@rylandaly7752yeah mibr too. Frod, potter, mini, mc are all so goated

[@3RSTE]

Mini stepped down from head coach at fnatic their results droped so far. We ll see over time if they improve. Potter did an excelent job with the revamped eg roaster. And KC has the former gambit coach. I just realisd that a lot of things depend on the coach of a team.

[@Reactivity760]

Yeah and then comes the igl as we could see with sentinels cause they made a come back.sadly its looking a bit joever but these games taught us to believe

[@pshkenzo7973]

​​@@3RSTEmimi is still assistant coach so could help easily and also the fact that you didnt even cook anything except farm yoru on twitter explains all that their is to know . also its not just coach players should also have initiated a change for strat like sadhaak did even when his coach and his best player left the team he pulled it back it all just seems excuses at this point i believe fnc can do a lot better but its not a coach faults it everyone on that team that didnt took part or even convince for the initiative to change something player should know that they ain't wining unless they change something

[@chrisnava8832]

i was watching the first half of lotus live and immediately was excited for thinking man’s valorant’s video on this

[@mohammedmiran3583]

Goddamn their coach used to be Gambit's coach back when they won Masters, no wonder he could out strat chronicle 😅

[@santhoshsenthil9819]

that man enggh is literally incomprehensibly smart. The man calls time outs when HIS TEAM HAS MOMENTUM to make them calm down and not overheat. legend

[@leoroman6415]

​@@santhoshsenthil9819he responded to that and that is not even the point of his time out, he said himself that he time out when he see something he don't like even if they win or loose

[@santhoshsenthil9819]

@@leoroman6415 I mean, both those things can be true... Did he actually say that he DOESN'T do them to prevent overheating?

[@theohomawoo]

@@santhoshsenthil9819 No he said: "I heard magnum calling exactly what the ennemies were going to do but then call out a counter start that wouldn't have worked" so he called a timeout to correct them on what to do, he truly is genius (they read the opponents perfectly this rounds btw)

[@chris-lh6ol]

Idk it just felt like fnatic stopped innovating after tokyo and relied too much on their comfort platstyle.

[@uresfffff222]

Yup , it’s almost like you only have to outaim fnatic to win

[@burpy501]

​@@uresfffff222which tbh isn't that difficult. The star aimer of fnc was boaster these two games. Boaster!!!

[@NanoZAQ]

They underestimated the opponent? They ban icebox right? Are they saving strat or something lmao

[@peterthompson350]

@@uresfffff222fr, when Loud clapped them in champs, especially the first time round, it was because they were just peeking and shitting on them and not respecting their sit in spawn default style.

[@huamenger6799]

@@burpy501 he been grinding aimlabs

[@funkycrawler619]

KC really perfected the Sensory Deprivation Comp and you truly love to see it. Was always one of my favorite comps and I was sad more teams didn't try it more but seeing this, like go KC!

[@solarx4166]

tf is sensory deprivation comp

[@funkycrawler619]

The Fade/Yoru/Omen focusing on taking away opponents senses (Audio/Vision) and capitalizing off of it with Omen/Yoru TPs and Yoru/Omen Ult. KC took it further by adding Astra with it (which I think is important cause NO ONE plays Omen/Astra together) and it honestly looks insane. G2 Gozen first introduced this comp but KC really perfected it IMO. @@solarx4166

[@funkycrawler619]

The Fade/Yoru/Omen comp that focuses on taking away your opponents senses (Hearing/Vision) and capitalizing off of it with Yoru/Omen TP and Ults. KC took it a step further by adding Astra to it with her CC and Wall (and honestly, who even would think to put Omen/Astra together). Very team oriented but very unique. G2 Gozen introduced it in Game Changers but KC Perfected it IMO. @@solarx4166

[@thunderbolt_blitz]

​@@solarx4166 hindrances, like deafness, blindness, vulnerable, decay, marked, detained... damage?

[@DankBobRoss]

@@thunderbolt_blitzI mean maybe 3 agents could be considered a “sensory deprivation” omen with paranoia, fade cuz duh, and maybe killjoy with lockdown, but the rest of it is just normal utility, it’s honestly just a dumb term overall

[@MarlockT]

7:26 boaster thought he had the stinger out

[@estebansalas5817]

you can see him trying to spray control, just goes to show how focused the pros can be.

[@RoBoTanCXI]

Elmapuddy was released by GenG for *some* reason. GenG used to play with classic strats ; no new meta or change of strats. That's why they got anti-strated at the middle of the season in APAC. It went downhill after that. Now look at GenG. They are going to MADRID.

[@rjun152]

Lol

[@sully7108]

Amazing video loved seeing ur breakdown on this, and even more excited to see EMEA split 1 fnatic back against the walls what do they do

[@kieranrandall1964]

ALLEZ LE BLEU

[@ilxZfps]

Pistol was a good round from FNC, KC tried to play retake C and crunch mound so that they could flood retake (a trap play). FNC saw the lack of contact C mound and C site suggested that this may be KCs trap, further reinforced when they spotted tomaszy deep B main (he wouldnt be this forward unless he was with 1/2 players or A/C lobby was being taken. Alfajer saw multiple people push A main so Boaster calls to fight the flank as they have time and can retake the man advantage before post plant

[@nischalthapa2460]

I could not believe this when it happened. I. Just. Could. Not.

[@v_cpt-phasma_v689]

NAVI and FNC both underperformed but TH and KC just played insane, cant take the credit away from them they more than deserved their wins, hopefully it encourages FNC and NAVI to prac more and come back even stronger and give us results like we saw in 2023 from FNC, neither team needs roster changes imo

[@Kai-oh8fu]

Could you do the split breakdown for this game as well?

[@Catpeeman]

Great breakdown

[@mohammadarifulislam1081]

I loved it how you got both predictions wrong xD

[@oscelynrodrigues2849]

Engh: "I dont really want to say and reveal my anti-strat" TMV: "So their Anti-Strat Works like this btw..."

[@eejay8069]

That intro is so fitting😂

[@ahnaffaisal803]

Another important thing to remember that lotus has had some significant changes from last season

[@tabadaantonjoshuam.5252]

TH and KC knocking out NAVI and FNC. This is about to be an exciting season.

[@pewyay]

This team sound very familiar to what EG was starting last season and what they were when they won…

[@joannagrzesko1161]

no, they are way better

[@ImaLegend1131]

Eg was getting famous bcz demon1 was performing killing everyone but not for KC their every players is playing good.

[@Magnum69]

WHAT IS THE COLOUR???

[@DualityofLife]

ALLEZ LE BLEU

[@spencerhoselton3100]

BLEU!!!

[@AdilKhan-uq2nm]

Orange

[@sturts1234]

This year we going for all three...

[@moleycule3177]

WHAT COLOR IS IT????

[@CopyStorm118]

N4rrate is just a beast.

[@justquantum991]

This antistrat against Fnatic on Lotus seems have to have similarities to LOUD's.

[@johnmarcelo1883]

Part of the tragedy is the format as well, teams with more established strategies and viewable vods did not have the chance to adapt to the counter-stratting of the other teams (Gen.G to DRX and PRX) If there was a lower bracket, I feel that things would've turned out very differently for FNC and NAVI as they would've noticed the weaknesses exploited in their playstyle

[@vakantieman3270]

Trash format every year. Unfortunately

[@Girvo747]

Valorant Esports team and absolutely trash formats: name a better duo

[@DuuKem]

That’s a nice thought but fnatic played less maps than KC. Fnatic came out with strats from 6 months ago. Also there’s 11 teams in each region, the esports team has repeatedly said they don’t love the format this way, but there’s no other option

[@cherylno583]

or just BO5s for the quals and BO3 for the seed

[@DuuKem]

@@cherylno583 bo5 for finals only is basically a rule among all esports, 2 bo5s into 2 bo3s would just take too long

[@imaginebeingindian247]

FNC had so much time to prepare and figure new things out but decides to stick with the same comps as last year. Little did they know other teams are already preparing for them. Being the best is also the most vulnerable at being the worst.

[@kelkiiii]

wild that fnc gives up the space they earn off a pick & not fighting ct/water in c post plant. im actually bewildered by that

[@ronlyon4645]

engh is simply masterclass. transforming a poo team into 1st seed.

[@martinrogan6641]

Why they didnt plan for long it makes no sense

[@amateursthoughts]

imagine being a KC fan last year and someone told you they would be one the first teams to qualify for masters madrid.

[@oskdxkkz]

last year ?? this is the first year of KC in VCT 😂😂 💙

[@nathanielcarmichael1033]

intro for every vid pls

[@zaba1808]

i love you tmv, i really do

[@Diitttoo]

The reason why most people don't take C after an A push is because hitting door is usually a much better choice. You could get pinched into C from site AND flank, so hitting door is what most teams tend to do

[@Spleen2ween]

lol @ the intro

[@joehomeless]

i like this thumbnail

[@333Abs]

It’s a shame to see fnatic go because I love watching them play but good work from KC

[@vihaanbollineni7890]

what is the timing, kc just beat th

[@McLovin25165]

That caster keeps glazing on fanatic the whole time lol

[@mreverything7056]

KC went from being a clown to being the Jonkler 🥶

[@westhefitting4105]

A FABULOUS video. Honestly embarrassing for FNC.

[@voyagersentfromearth]

Look at kc being smart😊

[@anujvan07]

1:6 ratio got some money on them :)

[@misterme1134]

Gigachad GOAT Engh completely anti stratting FNC (The best team from last year) off of a single map. In my opinion Engh is the best coach Valorant has ever seen

[@Girvo747]

It’s still absolutely silly that FNC played two games, won one and lost one and now they’re out of the next international tournament It’s just as silly if they’d won and qualified. Who the hell made this format? Add on the play ins debacle that smacked the players around :/

[@classi-cal]

They need a replay system to see how stupid their decisions are.

[@CreeperawmanYT]

Yea i hate the format so much its all about anti stratting nowadays with this format

[@Rainer-ko6ed]

props to kc, they won the lottery with those gambles

[@M1sty123]

Fnatic had been read so hard no wonder why they lost.

[@mp7311]

Pretty easy to outsmart a team that hasn't changed a thing in over a year. Wtf have FNC been doing in the off season.

[@aishwarybhat5673]

Glad to see your favorite team lose TMV by absolute underdogs

[@pyrocon5454]

WHAT

[@4thofJuLYLE]

I’m confused. Is fnatic out of the tournament ?

[@alexksader_zp8554]

Yes, they skip masters 1

[@Girvo747]

Yep. They played two games lmao it’s such a stupid format. They’re out of the next masters :(

[@burni988]

​@@Girvo747😭😭

[@Seivooo]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees

[@0Adnin]

KC bullied Fnatic. Its like they just couldn't get over their hump and then got steam rolled.

[@vigshot]

Fnatic lost because Derke didn't play Yoru

[@TheChazzdee]

Theres no way this guy just posted that Lion King clip without a spoiler warning before. Way to ruin the movie for me

[@DavidHeviL]

Finally a KC analysis 🤓

[@leyssyyy5848]

KC 🟦💙

[@wutangsaiyan9556]

Boaster too busy dancing to kpop songs. thats why they lost. not even kpop buff could save them

[@pengu0-]

CHOKENATIC IS BACK NOOOOO!

[@Valorant_Dem0n97]

Fntic chooses to play numbers when they're down rather than take map control. Genius

[@cicadarinn1253]

KC has every right to be proud of this win 💯

[@ImShaman]

do people really watch the EU games? its the most boring games to watch so idk, they afk outside a site then push once its the last 10 seconds now do that for everygame like zzzzzzzzzz boring

[@CrAzY799999]

love all the explanation but 19:55 is the reason why they really won

[@tmoe_ow2523]

EU worst region😂 no way KC won

[@JD-ee4df]

Speak at Madrid

[@TetGodOfGames]

KC best player is from NA

[@TetGodOfGames]

KC best player is from NA

[@JD-ee4df]

@@TetGodOfGames What's your point

[@tmoe_ow2523]

exactly NA dominates EU@@TetGodOfGames