How Kratos Became The God of Hope | God of War Series

God of War 's "Norse Saga" gave the terrifying Kratos one last journey to set out and find redemption. At least that is what we are led to believe. In truth, Kratos is not a simple character and his story is complex. He is flawed in so many ways, has made so many mistakes, and has proven to be evil in his own right, even despite his search for justice.
But that is precisely why his story is symbolic of a man seeking hope and redemption in the face of fate and war. This is how the unworthy god of war became a legendary god of hope.
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[@expychristian]

I misspelled Valhalla as "Vahalla" Oops. But I also just wanted to shout out everyone for the ongoing support! I've been seeing people comment to help this video make it's rounds around KZbin and I am grateful and thankful equally for y'all's incredible support. Y'all are the greatest. 😘

[@skylimits4839]

always thought it was “Valhalla” 😂😂

[@expychristian]

@skylimits4839 When you edit for so long, silent-like letters in pronunciation slip away haha. And yes I'm aware you pronounce the first L, it seemed to have slipped this time around xd

[@thmistrapillay1811]

Excellently made video. Hope it blows up madly🔥

[@expychristian]

@thmistrapillay1811 Thank you! The video has been doing fantastic thanks to folks like you, so I am uber-grateful for all of the support!

[@jaredmarrero5244]

Ññ.

[@delphidelion]

Pandora literally calling out Kratos as always having been a god of hope. "It is what we fight with when when all else is lost."

[@expychristian]

In hindsight, yes. Kratos has always had to fight from the absolute bottom-most against all the odds. Granted, a lot of people suffered because of the consequences, which is unfortunate. But clearly, Orkos, Pandora, and other people have seen that Kratos would accomplish the right thing. Doesn't justify the havoc he caused, which is part of his "redemption arc" in the Norselands, but it is a complicated layer that meshes over the underdog that has always been Kratos, who LITERALLY lost everything trying to exact vengeance. As far as revenge stories go, for it to end in reflection and wanting to do better: it's refreshing. It shows that there was some spark in Kratos that wanted to be someone better had he gotten the chance, which he eventually did. He is now what Pandora saw in him those years ago.

[@1fishmob]

Let's be honest, Kratos in the new games is what Disney tried to do with Luke Skywalker in The Last Jedi, but leagues, LEAGUES better.

[@expychristian]

@1fishmob You have a good point. If we are to see the sort of older, more grizzlied versions of these characters, I feel it be good to see how they address the sort of "old problem, different face" conundrum that Kratos and Luke faced (with Zeus/Odin and Vader/First Order) respectively. I also see them as an Uncle Iroh figure, where they take action directly, while also teaching and guiding the next generation of protagonists. Just because they're older doesn't mean they can't change or they can't contribute positively to the story.

[@shawnthompson2303]

Way better.

[@WheatDos]

And then you guys SHAT all over that story, and what did we get? RISE OF SKYWALKER!!! Congratulations! You managed to convince Disney to turn a very flawed story that could be improved into that PIECE OF SH!T!!! AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

[@expychristian]

@WheatDos I was impartial to it, as when I first watched the new trilogy up to Last Jedi, I didn't really know what was going on. As years went by though and I learned and grew on my own, I came to realise just how much potential wasn't actualized. Which is sad as it could've been good and we've seen flashes of modern Star Wars going above and beyond even just the Jedi-Sith story.

[@1fishmob]

@@WheatDos Honestly, I'm not even blaming the fans on that one. If you know production of the sequel trilogy, there was never even a plan for where it would go made; what Abrams had planned was not what Rian wanted to do, so, as many put it, it was the equivalent of two kids playing with the same toys, but not agreeing on how it should go. For me personally, I feel like a story like what they did with Luke Skywalker would have been better suited for a character who worked with the Empire directly. After all, the whole idea is something they regret doing in the past and how they learn & grow from it, right?

[@t5hammer871]

Kratos has been running off hope since he killed his family. One would have to going against a pantheon as brazenly as he. But once his darkness was at least reigned in, the hope for something more is what drove him. Kratos experienced the blinding obsession with hope and the inspirational side of hope. Who is more worthy to mantle this role than he?

[@expychristian]

@t5hammer871 Sage's Rain, another KZbinr, talked about Kratos doesn't deserve redemption, but that doesn't mean he can't try and find it. And I'd like to think that that carries over to how you described him. Kratos wanted vengeance, because he was wronged and because the Greeks were legitimately afflicted by evil forces that could've decimated the world. That hope became part of Kratos was because although he wanted to destroy the Gods, there was always a part of him that wanted to be rid of all of the darkness that claimed him during his hour of desperation. He experienced a sort of intermediate hope in enacting vengeance against the Gods, then experienced that lifelong hope that he would eventually be free from all his torment. So yeah, I would agree. Kratos got his redemption arc because he knew be needed to be better for the people in the end.

[@ndnbbbear]

That expansion was a love letter to the ps2 era playersthats how you close a book! Making it free showed respect to us all thats how a studio should be run

[@expychristian]

@ndnbbbear I was shocked when they revealed to be free AND released a week later. Not to mention, it was good! It's top-notch quality and I respect Santa Monica Studios for taking the leap of making it free.

[@ndnbbbear]

@expychristian again that was nothing but a love letter to us for our loyalty

[@expychristian]

@@ndnbbbear I would agree. Great game, better reception.

[@DearAnem0ia]

Man, the Dark Souls soundtrack, along with Skyrim, makes this video so much better. Very well done.

[@expychristian]

Thank you, thank you! I felt that both matched the sort of melancholy and themes of potential that underscores Kratos' complete journey from Greece to the Norselands. Oblivion also helped!

[@esjayt150]

@@expychristianmelody of pandora

[@expychristian]

@@esjayt150 Is that one of the OSTs of GoW3?

[@TotallyCyn]

There’s also TES IV: Oblivion from what I heard

[@expychristian]

@TotallyCyn Yup! Through the Valley, Glory of Cyrodil, Peace of Akatosh, and Bard's Lament if I recall.

[@yaboicheshire868]

Kratos is the peek masculinity and I would die to be half the man he became.

[@expychristian]

@yaboicheshire868 True. But one could also ask: what's stopping us? Right? So maybe we don't have to go through what Kratos did, but we can take his example and find ways in which we can apply or learn the wisdom and peace he was able to discover from his experiences and trusted figures. And I'd like to think it concluded this way to give us a source of hope and inspiration we can find aspirations from.

[@yaboicheshire868]

@@expychristian Y'know. I never thought about it like that, though. If we do try and follow his steps. I vote we don't go on a one man crusade against various gods in the process XD

[@expychristian]

@yaboicheshire868 Yeah, let's leave the swords aside in favour of self-mastery and self-betterment 😅

[@youtubecreators384]

Damn straight. I've come across people who thinks Kratos is less manly in the newer games. And that's deeply disturbing. They are basically saying that it is manly to be a vicious genocidal murderer with a serious anger issue. Now that's really fucked up.

[@expychristian]

@youtubecreators384 I'm not gonna lie, I've seen characters like Toji, Sukuna, Griffith, and so on be gratified despite their legitimately evil acts. And I've seen the perception of why Kratos shouldn't be evolved the way he did and it is saddening to see. Yes, he's a fictional character, but I feel Kratos had the underlying themes and storytelling to be more than just some raging berserker. That he's become the way he has from the Norse Saga is honestly refreshing for an epic-fantasy narrative.

[@joepersch6779]

I had to sub after that "Wonton? WONTON!!" moment 🤣

[@expychristian]

@@joepersch6779 I try my best to be concise, but the slip ups are inevitable, haha Appreciate the sub! Hope you can enjoy the channel from its beginnings to now 😁

[@martinisawe6300]

Hey I'ma just comment here so the algorithm recommends your video

[@expychristian]

@@martinisawe6300 You're a real one for that, thank you kindly. 🙏 Hope you enjoy the video!

[@terrorix2097]

A deep dive into Kratos, showing him in fullness instead of just killing machine that turned into a good man is not a frequent situation. Great take on his true character and a well done video. Hope you grow as big as you deserve!

[@expychristian]

@terrorix2097 Well said and thank you kindly! I was inspired by other Kratos video essays, but I wanted to focus exclusively on the character growth that the cutscenes don't explicitly say. Appreciate the support! Here's hoping for the best, and with such a great audience, I have the faith that it can happen!

[@dragonMaster24921]

If the valhalla was the ending of the GoW series i would be 100 percent okay with that. Kratos had his arc. He's risen above his pain and forged his own path forward. Pandora was right and the man deserves his peace. Plus the fact i swear his ashy skin is slowly wearing off. It shows that kratos is truly found the good he needed in his life.

[@expychristian]

@dragonMaster24921 I'd agree. Unless something drastic arises, it isn't Kratos' story anymore. I feel Valhalla concluded the story of the God of War and many of the threads surrounding Kratos found some sense of closure. I am glad they also called back to things like Kratos' pact and Pandora since they've helped define who he was during the Greek Saga. I can't envision much more from Kratos other than fading to the back and doing his duties in silence. Its what he deserves after all of the conflict he had to endure.

[@Altairbn]

It’s actually confirmed kratos’s skin is actually turning normal again

[@expychristian]

@@Altairbn A sign of overcoming the pain of his sins. That's a neat detail.

[@bradrx05]

Thank you for this. Kratos is my all time favorite character. And he always feels like a reflection of myself. Angry in my youth, flawed choices, and yet it’s never too late cast aside your past ways and start living anew. I attempt to describe his epic rise, fall, and resurrection to my friends, but you’ve done such a better job of it I can now just send them a video lol. ❤❤❤

[@expychristian]

No worries, happy to provide! And thank you for the reflection. I'm grateful that Santa Monica went out of their way to not necessarily justify Kratos' complicated journey, but instead offer some different perspectives on it, while not taking away from both the good and bad that came out of it. It helps legitimise his path back to godhood, perhaps not in the most righteous or glamorous way, but in such a manner that we can take inspiration from. We all make mistakes, but we can all do better as well, even if it takes time and a lot of patience. Hope you're doing better as he is!

[@bradrx05]

@@expychristian I am, thanks for asking. Many hours of soul searching. Many deep, meaningful conversations with my wife. For anyone reading and interested in improving, the secret is setting personal pride aside and being as honest with yourself as possible. It’s scary at first, but in time it becomes easier and feels liberating.

[@expychristian]

@bradrx05 Glad to hear it. Glad that you were able to make those difficult moments all the worthwhile by finding the improvement you needed in reflection. Your words remind me of what Uncle Iroh said in Avatar: "Pride is not the opposite of shame, but its source. True humility is the only antidote to shame." I think that besides pride, which is big, we can also overcome shame and pity by using honesty for self-mastery. So I'm grateful you got where you hoped you wanted to be, with your efforts and with your wife's support.

[@bradrx05]

@@expychristian it’s a process… I think you mentioned it in the video… it’s a journey not a destination. And the journey of self-improvement is lifelong. Anyway, sorry to keep blowing up your comments section lol.

[@expychristian]

@bradrx05 No worries! I would agree 100%. The process is ongoing because we are always striving to change or changing because of A and B. There's checkpoints for growth, but as you said, the journey is just as important, if not more important than the destination.

[@Solation_]

Needs more than 187 views, underrated fs. Gow is goated, definitely one of my favorite games

[@expychristian]

@Solation_ Appreciate the comment! Can't complain for any viewership, though. But thank you, nonetheless.

[@user-po1bo5yu6j]

4.2k views 2 days later let’s make sure he gets his roses

[@expychristian]

@@user-po1bo5yu6j You're too kind, commenter. I appreciate the support!

[@shiver8082]

I love finding underrated stuff like this to listen to at long days at work :)

[@expychristian]

@@shiver8082 No worries, happy to provide! I'm actually flattered to hear that. I hope what I can produce can help you in anyway through your work days. Thank you for your comment!

[@tristantorres3558]

Literally same, this made time fly by at work, very good vid

[@expychristian]

@tristantorres3558 Love to hear it! Grateful for your comment. While we're here, though I can't offer a guarantee, any suggestions for videos you'd like for me to cover?

[@Latedozer]

Hey, it's going on recommended pages. Can't wait to hear more

[@expychristian]

@@Latedozer Wait, really? That's exciting. Appreciate the words, I got some more in store in the future!

[@Latedozer]

@@expychristian yup, it's how I found it. Just popped up in my recommendations. Great video btw

[@expychristian]

@Latedozer That's a great development! Appreciate you mentioning it and thank you for enjoying! Did my best.

[@galacticpatrolradio]

God of War was always deep I still remember playing the first one, "the gods of Olympus had abandoned me" that still lives in my memory fresh. I was like woah and I love how his redemption arc was teased before 2018 game.

[@expychristian]

@galacticpatrolradio I have a fondness for the simplicity of the older gen stories. The complexity thrives under the simple storytelling and themes presented by the game/show etc. Justice League Unlimited comes to mind, with each episode being only about 20 or so minutes long, but providing enough depth to the topic and characters shown in the episodes.

[@stephanodixon619]

Tyr, the God of Therapy

[@expychristian]

@@stephanodixon619 Sounds about right. We could all use a Tyr in our lives.

[@GayLPer]

What is therapy if not finding justice within one's self for the tragedies and (for lack of a better word) sins you've experienced in your life? Our tragedies do not justify our wrongs, but they do explain them. An explanation that can lead us to a better place, a better us.

[@erenraphaelo3507]

🤔🧐👏👏👏 Truly a masterpiece! The video offers an in-depth and profound analysis of Kratos, not only as a character but also diving deeply into his trauma with remarkable insight. I was completely immersed from start to finish, drawn into a focused, almost trance-like state. Words can't fully describe how powerful this work is-an exceptional video and an impressive achievement. For those who have been deeply hurt, broken, feel lost, or are trapped in darkness, I’m reminded of a powerful line from the Chinese novel Reverend Insanity: "In times like these, all you need to do is give your heart to hope, and it will carry you forward." Wishing you all the best, and please keep creating more!

[@expychristian]

@erenraphaelo3507 Thank you kindly! I do my best. I especially wanted to draw connections between all of the games and how they influenced Kratos throughout his whole journey. I am also grateful that they made it a point that Kratos is a complex character since we saw shades of it across the original Greek saga. But thank you for the powerful words! And I would agree. There are times when we should believe in hope and believe to hope, even if it sounds dumb. We can carry on trying, however, miniscule. I got more in store! Just other obligations and duties keeping me busy, so keep an eye out, I got stuff cookin' 😁

[@frankwest5388]

Kratos shows a ton of unexpected dimensions at times one wouldn’t expect. Like in a conversation with Mimir about Greek theater Kratos explains that having all the events take place in one place at one time made things easier to understand. This is true, since Greek theater was based on small groups of people doing things without a budget, with people coming and going during the performance, having multiple set pieces and era’s would be a mess to follow. This shows that despite his warrior upbringing, Kratos does have a strong understanding of culture and art, in his own way. You wouldn’t think he would be so cultured but he is, he just rarely shows it, since he rarely gets the chance. Or when at the end of Ragnarok, Kratos asks Mimir if he taught Atreus sex ed and how to romance. Kratos clearly had those things on his mind for a long time. He just never was able to express it and show his depth

[@expychristian]

@frankwest5388 The last portion of what you said there is definitely a father trying to wrap his head around his mythical son growing up, haha But to your point, I agree. Greece was cultured, it's why it's mythology and philosophies are still circulating to this day. I think that, yes, we forget that Kratos probably had cultural and intellectual aspects to his upbringing, it's just not exactly spoken for a lot of the time. That he is learning great and fundamentally true principles from others, Greek or not, shows that he had the foundations for understanding these lessons and teachings; again though, it just wasn't spoken for because of his quest and it's different focuses. It's not wrong to think Kratos was a passionate berserker who focused more on his emotions at a glance, but there is dimensions to him that come from the background given to him. Excellent comment, thank you for that!

[@Bo-my5bn]

Well said that was beautifully poetic, this incredible saga especially the conclussion of Raganrok and Valhalla which has remained in my mind and will always remain in my heart. The amount of ways this masterpiece can inspire, teach and resonate with you is unbelievable. Thank you for shairng this it really helps consolidate my thoughts and bring about a whole new depth of understanding to the story and Kratos layered character!

[@expychristian]

No worries! Happy to help, happy to provide. And thank you for your comment! I know I'm focused on quite a good amount of these character-focused essays, so it's always joyful to see people formulate and deepen their perspectives of said characters!

[@raycenteno7698]

Ya bro. Glad you agree. Been saying this since in God of War 3. But, is he really still the God of Hope??? I still like to think so even though he unleased in all of Greece. A bit of that hope still remained in him.

[@expychristian]

Valhalla confirms to Tyr that, yes while Kratos released the physical power of hope to the rest of the world, his act symbolizes his transformation (and possible change as he goes through Valhalla) into being that god of hope that the people needed. Greece eventually rebuilt itself, but more importantly, hope has been given to possibly the rest of the world as a whole. The title doesn't have to be limited just because of a power stored inside of him; it's become who he is because of what he's willing to do to bring about and preserve peace.

[@rumpus2051]

ALGORITHM BROTHER

[@expychristian]

@@rumpus2051 THANK YOU BROTHER 🔥🔥🔥

[@carlborneke8641]

I have seen a lot of people saying that Kratos can never be forgiven for what he has done but I think that they are confusing forgiveness with absolution. I agree that nothing can absolve Kratos from what he has done but he can be forgiven. Especially considering that forgiveness doesn’t have to be earned. Kratos has accepted that what he has done can never be erased. He is now honest about his past and now seeks to make the world a better place for his friends, family and even complete strangers.

[@expychristian]

@@carlborneke8641 Well said. It's easy to see how we can confuse forgiveness for absolution, as they do run correspondent to one another. But finding peace comes with that forgiveness. Absolution is something that he can't give to himself, but, as you said, peace comes from finding the power to forgive oneself. He's had that opportunity twice (once during the memory section of the Zeus fight in God of War 3 and then Valhalla), but it was only in Valhalla that he could actualize what forgiveness also meant: learning from and embracing his past as it was and using it with new perspective as wisdom for the future.

[@tonyk5927]

Great vid love how Kratos’s story arc throught out Norse saga, how it concludes in a natural way That final scene on throne speaks a volumes without even saying a word

[@expychristian]

@tonyk5927 Amen to that. I do appreciate that they gave Kratos closure. We didn't have those moments to reflect on his past like how Valhalla offered when Kratos was adventuring in the Norselands. So I'm grateful that someone (Tyr) was able to break it down and help Kratos realise what he's capable of and offer that new perspective on his backstory. The throne scene is powerful to me because it's "his ending" if you may. And that he's found peace with himself gives me a sense of contentment.

[@CringelordJen]

this choked me up at the end, glad i got to see this

[@expychristian]

Happy to provide! And thank you for the comment :)

[@LebanonsFinest]

Great video.

[@expychristian]

@@LebanonsFinest Thank you.

[@esjayt150]

I have been rewatching this video to help me sleep everyday, It’s so relaxing

[@expychristian]

@@esjayt150 Happy to provide! Thank you for this! Helps motivate me to do my best! Stay blessed, sir. 🙏

[@369destroyer]

So I have a theory about Tyr's weapon choices, Ill copy and paste it here but TLDR I feel like the choices are all symbolic of Kratos' struggles. 1) A spear and shield, while likely Norse in origin, was a unusual choice. After all, Vikings are far more associated with axes and hammers. The weapon choice is far more associated with Greece, especially Spartans like Leonidas. I feel this was symbolocally showing he and Kratos share some things in common outside being War Gods. 2) Macuahuitl, the Mesoamerican club with bladed obsidian. Mesoamerican cultures, especially the Aztecs, have a reputation of being brutal, violent, and cruel. But they were way more complicated than that culturally. And when he pulls this out, Kratos is struggling with a choice that was needlessly and obviously evil on the surface, but extremely complicated underneath, being his choice to swear loyalty to Ares. A sacrifice to the Gods if you may. 3) Khopesh, Egyptian curved blades. This is a bit 2 fold in meaning. Firstly their culture is known less for their stories, but more for their beleifs of the afterlife. Secondly their most well known god is Ra, the SUN god. Kratos is being confronted with killing Helios and his destruction of the Sun, which he knew would happen thanks to his journey to save Helios and restore the Sun. Might be a bit of a stretch, but the story of Ra crossing the sky very bizzare in many ways. But at the beginning he rises from the Underworld, much like how Kraros freed Helios, then at the end he returns to it, like how Kratos kills Helios. 4) Katana, we all recognize this weapon. While we associate the culture with honor and idealized Bushido, Samurai were slaves to service, doing horrid things at the request of a master for the sake of personal gain. Heck, vearing a bit of course but for good reason, if you've played Pokemon there is a move called Night Slash. In Japanese it is named after the old practice of Samurai SLAUGHTERING CIVILIANS to test their blade's sharpness. The fact it was such a common thing it had a name people recognized enough to get into a POKEMON game should be telling how many victims there potentially could have been. However, one thing they can be ordered to do after a significant failure is to participate in Seppuku. While inaccurate it is more often than not shown as a samurai STABBING THEMSELVES IN THE GUT WITH THEIR OWN BLADE. Familiar? Kratos opened Pandora's box at Athena's request blindly following orders for redemption and revenge. Slaughtered may random innocent lives along his way to killing Zeus. But upon seeing his failures, he took the Blade of Olympus and...well you know.

[@expychristian]

So you've provided the narrative connection! I, being giddy about seeing those new forms on Tyr, believed that they were hints to other pantheons. Which is also likely true, but I like where you went with here. It not only compounds Tyr's perspective, but also gives Kratos a physical, practical lesson (that being when Tyr and him fight to clear his head). While I don't think Kratos knew of those weapons in purpose, Tyr probably did. That the developers chose which weapons to highlight and which stage of reflection they appeared was probably a thematic connection they wanted to place in. And in hindsight, you might be onto somethin', I'm not gonna lie. The added special abilities that Tyr gets also could reflect those themes: the blood magic from the Aztecs, the darkness and light from Egypt, and so on. Just an added detail, but I feel it connects to your theory there. Thank you for that.

[@imdrift170]

Bro the wonton had me crying

[@expychristian]

@imdrift170 🤣🤣🤣 Happy to hear my little vocal mishap finding motion haha

[@realhackedgaming]

youtube needs more content like this. this was really good. you just earned a sub

[@expychristian]

@realhackedgaming Thank you for the support! I do my best for content like these. Takes time for sure, but the process is usually good for learning as well! Glad you enjoyed the vid!

[@Bacwono]

Fantastic video, hard to find good content lately. Keep it up! 🌟

[@expychristian]

@Bacwono Hey I appreciate it! Hope you can enjoy I can put out. I try to do my best around here. Thank you for the encouragement!

[@dylannance4772]

Bro deserves more subs

[@expychristian]

@dylannance4772 Appreciate the support! I am happy to have gotten this far though, thanks to y'all!

[@AdamYalahow]

Not Tyre being a therapist 😂

[@expychristian]

@@AdamYalahow Tyr is the ultimate therapist 😇

[@shawnthompson2303]

*This is the Way.*

[@expychristian]

This is the Way.

[@atticusleeds3957]

I would still rather Kratos be the god of Power. First of all, it's what his name means. Secondly, throughout the games, old and new, his directive, whether he realizes it or not, is to punish those who abuse power. Third, it allows a continuity with who he was. It doesn't completely disavow the old Kratos. It improves on him, rather than remaking him entirely.

[@expychristian]

@atticusleeds3957 I think the title of God of Hope is more characteristic and symbolic. What you've presented is honestly valid. It makes sense to Kratos' purpose as well as his story. I don't think he lost continuity because of his title or his journey, I believe it helped him recognise that for him to proceed as a trusted, relied-upon God, he needed to open his eyes to the kind of responsibility that comes with a sense of redemption. So yes, God of Power can improve Kratos to the contextual sense. I just think God of Hope is more about his personal journey leading up to taking the mantle of responsibility. I don't see any remakes, rather I see the combination of who he was and who he can be made into something worthy of the changes he didn't know he was seeking.

[@Jowenisawesome]

Dude this is awesome i never coment but this is a great deep dive in to kratos and hope

[@expychristian]

@@Jowenisawesome Appreciate it! I wanted to cover how the Norselands portrayed Kratos after the Greek Saga, so I'm glad you enjoyed it.

[@solsbeams]

The hunter that becomes swallowed by the sport does not know when to stop hunting. He may one day hunt his own soul

[@expychristian]

@@solsbeams Absolutely true. It's also truthful in application when it comes to Kratos, since he could easily revert back to the Ghost of Sparta given that chance (at least prior to Valhalla).

[@corruptedhooman3268]

This is mad maaad underrated

[@expychristian]

@corruptedhooman3268 Thank you, thank you. Also I'm not gonna lie, it's a bit off-topic, but I thought your username had something to do with humans in the Warhammwe series xd

[@andrewmah2962]

Yep, Kratos used his powers to get a bowl of wonton soup

[@expychristian]

@@andrewmah2962 I would to, to be honest. Maybe not destroy a whole Pantheon, but I imagine using heat from the Blades of Chaos to cook would be useful on-hand haha

[@andrewmah2962]

@@expychristian kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3rHYnacrtmnj7csi=uRmXD2wNVrjf1-qf The Blades can't cook meat

[@cristhianramirez6939]

Myfavorite franchise and my favorite show, GOW and ATLA, this is great

[@expychristian]

Good taste, good sir. Great stories connect great principles for our own lives.

[@Leviathan1000]

Imagine an alternate universe were Kratos reminded the god of war and zeus didn't betrayed kratos. Now I'd like to see that story.

[@expychristian]

@Leviathan1000 I feel because of how the God's couldn't give Kratos peace as Athena had tried to promise to Kratos in God of War 1, Kratos would've went to war with Olympus. That said! I would interested to see how Kratos would lead Sparta to a new "golden age" by utilizing the city's armies and piety against the other Greek city-states, who I assume would have different patron Gods from Olympus. Instead of just a hack-and-slash, I think it'd be cool to see play out sort of like Clash of the Titans? Where the gods have different motives and Kratos just ends up as one of the major players.

[@Leviathan1000]

@@expychristian that would be a great what if. What if remanded the god of war and the greek gods didn't betray him.

[@expychristian]

@Leviathan1000 Its got the potential. I can see it playing out more like a classic Greek tragedy as opposed to the epic war that happened in the series.

[@hernanborrajo9608]

Am I listened dark souls music in the background, maybe?

[@expychristian]

@@hernanborrajo9608 Correct! Fire Keepers, Premonition, and Firelink Shrine OST(s) from Dark Souls 2.

[@KyojiMizusenpai5044]

When God of War Ragnork dropped, and the ending was revealed, someone said there was a theory that Kratos became one of the wise men who witnessed Jesus being born and would end up having the ashes of his wife and daughter removed. But the number of people who don't want to move on from their own trauma and just want a one-note video game, I don't believe it'll happen. However, it does sound like an option for them to take his character.

[@expychristian]

@KyojiMizusenpai5044 That's certainly a unique way that the narrative can advance! I've heard of the theories of Kratos opening the way for Jesus Christ, but him being one of the wise men is new to me! The themes could fit the bill as well. It's a possibility, that's for sure. That there are people that expected another war-like continuation to the God of War series was expected, so it's understandable, given the name and impact of the franchise. I suppose the deeper story unraveled by the Norse Saga isn't for everyone, and that's understandable. I am stoked to see what's next for anyone in the God of War franchise.

[@matthewmartinez9835]

Valhalla is by far one of my favorite dlcs for a ending franchise

[@expychristian]

@@matthewmartinez9835 I appreciate it having expanded on the character story while incorporating unexplored elements and characters from the Norselands (ie. Valhalla's heaven-status and Tyr). It helps flesh out the world and introduce how these myths functioned in God of War's universal mythology. It's great all around, definitely a top 10 DLC.

[@Rcarlone]

WONTON!!! Lmao😂

[@expychristian]

@@Rcarlone Slip ups are common around these parts 😅😅🤣

[@nicht4041]

Love the video!

[@expychristian]

@@nicht4041 Thank you, kindly.

[@Spawn3582]

17:31 Leaving this so i can come back and finish this amazing video after beating Ragnarok

[@expychristian]

@Spawn3582 Thank you, and good luck with completing the journey! Hope you can enjoy the rest of the video after you've finished Ragnarok!

[@Spawn3582]

@@expychristian Thank you! It sucks that I can't finish the video since I was so immersed, but I know that it'll be worth it once me and my gf finish the game

[@expychristian]

@Spawn3582 Thank you for the honesty and kindness! I don't fault you, if anything props to you for wanting to enjoy the game first before coming back to a video without being spoiled on major stuff and therefore having a more in-depth watch/listen. Play at your pace, I hope the Ragnarok-Valhalla section can be more enjoyable after you've completed your run!

[@lenowoo]

Unworthy! 🦅 Unworthy! 🦅 Unworthy! 🦅

[@expychristian]

@@lenowoo In hindsight, just pure hypocrisy from Zeus, and really just the Greeks in general. It's a shame such a majestic animal (the eagle) is associated with such an arrogant mythical figure.

[@terla2971]

I don't think Kratos' story is over yet. I think both fans and dev are too eager to do Egypt since God of war 3 came out. I imagine that Atreus will go there and Kratos will follow, we'll probably have more of an even split between the two but Kratos outside of being a character is also a "mascot" that sells a lot. Also great video with interesting takes.

[@expychristian]

@terla2971 Thank you! I did my best to share my perspective while being respectful as to the lore. That said, I do think we'll get an Atreus-led game of finding the other mythos. I'm certain Kratos will follow suit, given his role as a sort of unifier of the realms. But who knows? They've teased the other mythologies, they've teased their aspects, it's now in their ball-court for us to see how they manage the greater universe of God of War myth as a whole. Here's hoping for great things!

[@goldenst8ofmind102]

I need this last game to have kratos be his old self and raise absolute hell then die at the end

[@expychristian]

@@goldenst8ofmind102 The heroic/berserker sacrifice. I can certainly see it happening, but only if Valhalla is not taken into account in the underlying notes of the story.

[@godofopus]

Fantastic video

[@expychristian]

@@godofopus Thank you very much!

[@zacharydennis9227]

This video goes hard asf

[@expychristian]

Appreciate the comment!

[@mr.p4f477]

I enjoyed every minute of it

[@expychristian]

@mr.p4f477 Appreciate the support! Happy to hear you enjoyed it.

[@NateDdragon]

Thumbnail is giving me Valkyrie PTSD

[@expychristian]

@@NateDdragon You have my sympathy for the Valkyrie boss fights. 😥

[@adorp]

"I am your monster no more" Also uses Athena's powers to turn into a god... Twice. Wish we were given more insight into Athena. Where did she get the primordial-level power to defeat Zeus, and to transcend death? And why did she turn evil after dying? What is her current game plan?

[@expychristian]

@adorp I had looked into him saying that as symbolic rather than literal. Since he's not only used the Blades of Chaos, but later the Blade of Olympus for his journeys. Aa for Athena, I can only imagine she was there in God of War 4 to torment him. Whatever higher plane she ascended to clearly isn't the same peaceful realm in principle as offered by Valhalla or Elysium. It WAS also shown, though, at the end of God of War: Ghost of Sparta, that Athena was using Kratos for her own plans. So perhaps not evil completely, as we still don't know what she wants, but just as manipulative as Zeus and the others. I get why Kratos wouldn't give Athena the power of Hope at the end of God of War 3 because at that point, she was too vague and unspecific while also acting entitled to a power that Kratos knew no one should have. Who knows? I've seen theories of Athena having manipulated the Norselands so I wouldn't be surprised if she's still trying to grab hold of whatever Kratos has for her own.

[@jcaaata7338]

Fantastic listen for me, thanks

[@expychristian]

@jcaaata7338 No worries, happy to help! Hope you enjoy!

[@theangrycanuck8331]

I think God Of War Egypt will have Atreus be the playable character

[@expychristian]

@theangrycanuck8331 I'm for it. Kratos' story has ultimately ended, while Atreus is just getting started as Loki. Some Kratos gameplay would be a nice break from the story mode though.

[@robosavagegamer]

The new Kratos was born at the end of gow 3 that’s how I see it

[@expychristian]

@robosavagegamer In a symbolic, characteristic way, yes. I agree. He even let go of his sword (Sword of Olympus), he eventually buried the Blades of Chaos, and he even started a new family. Tyr even virtually confirmed it after Valhalla. A rebirth is an understatement: it was a transformation into a new kind of character, without forgetting the roots in their story.

[@overshock019]

kratos and wantons lmao. fantastic video tho

[@expychristian]

@@overshock019 I love both, haha. Thank you for the support!

[@lamplight00]

Can you send me a picture of the thumbnail. I love the image of kratos with unworthy in front.

[@expychristian]

@@lamplight00 Sure thing. Late for me now, but expect it soon!

[@expychristian]

Here! Try this link, I even resized it for wallpaper use!: i9.ytimg.com/vi/KXwst0XZM7o/maxresdefault.jpg?v=66b7ab55&sqp=CKDV3rUG&rs=AOn4CLBfPJieZ3QuJNZjdbCbtLL-csU6DQ

[@lamplight00]

The link gives me a 404 error. Thank you for reaching out btw!

[@expychristian]

@@lamplight00 Try this one! drive.google.com/file/d/1Ic-I32csSKxGcTVJgYlGvBEU6fUherXE/view?usp=sharing

[@lamplight00]

@@expychristianthat worked thank you!

[@PhantomAngelofMusic]

Dammit, now I want wonton soup. Grrrr

[@expychristian]

It's lowkey the best soup, I'm not gonna lie. Get you some sesame oil and hot sauce with a good wonton soup and you're set for a good night's sleep xd

[@PhantomAngelofMusic]

@@expychristian Oh, right? And I think I'm catching the sniffles to boot, so that'd just be *chef's kiss* right now

[@expychristian]

@PhantomAngelofMusic Perfect time for soup, especially with wontons. It helps to fill up the appetite at a light measure, that way you don't frickin' go to bed bloated, at least from my experience.

[@josefernandez2279]

Ayoo let me ride the wave🏊‍♂️🏊‍♂️🏊‍♂️

[@expychristian]

@@josefernandez2279 Ayo? 😅🤣

[@syntheticvocalist-p472]

Slight spoilers for Berserk I feel like Kratos picks up where Guts left off. This was to be the same path in a sense for the struggler. I believed by the end of his journey he would have come to realize the importance of who the moonlight child is and why he needed to be a father instead of a swordsman for both Casca, the child, and himself. If all went well. Griffith would become nothing to them. They would simply forget cut him out completely and feel no emotional anything towards the hawk of light. Not only that, but they would leave to live their lives while Griffith’s Kingdom collapsed around him.

[@expychristian]

Great analogy. I'm not the most educated on Berserk, but I can imagine the similarities in the purpose of discovering the best self for the person and people involved (Guts and his family/friends respectively). From what I have seen, I don't imagine Griffith would leave them alone completely, but at the very least, that evil nitwit would lose some "control" over them; his influence wouldn't be so meaningful in a negative way that it would continue to corrode them internally. Just my thoughts, but thank you for the comparison!

[@colonelradec5956]

I like young kratos lol. But to bee fair as you age you do change. Im nearly 40. I am alot less willing to fight frivolously than at 20. The older you get the more you realize you gotta pick your battles. If you fight every battle that will be your life and thats exhausting and painful.

[@expychristian]

@colonelradec5956 That's great advice and honestly applicable even at younger ages. Every day counts, but is every single "battle" or thing worth the energy? I believe we might be inclined to think: "It's worth it", but as you said, the more time passes, we sort of realize where our priorities and values lie as we continue to develop. So, thank you for the comment! Appreciate the honesty.

[@terrybenitez7611]

Gods get older that means they get stronger like kratos.

[@expychristian]

@terrybenitez7611 Fair point. But I would actually say it depends on the proactive nature of the god in question as well. Odin, for example, definitely might have been stronger in the past. And the Valkyries, prior to their resurrection, were arguably more fearsome when they were undead and under Odin's control. I imagine that the power stays the same, but it takes action/inaction to increase or decrease it over time.

[@insectostrich4407]

While I do feel like the immense scale of the original god of war games has been lost and Ragnarok was just a bit underwhelming I don’t think those are fair reasons to ignore the amazing story. Not only was it clever to have Valhalla be the setting for the rogue-like gameplay, but having Tyr, a god of war, be the one to set Kratos on the right path and for Kratos to accept his past was so nuanced. It acknowledged that he was a terrible person, but he has always been more than that and will strive to have hope to be better.

[@expychristian]

@insectostrich4407 The tone has certainly calmed down in contrast to the Greek Saga. But I don't mind. And if anything, that Valhalla doesn't actually absolve Kratos' past, instead building on it, gives more dynamic to the character and helps ingrain both the positives perspective of Tyr and the negative, real feelings inside of Kratos into the God of War's internal character arc. It makes either feel more legitimate rather than just a simple do-over, while giving a conclusion that caps off his run.

[@insectostrich4407]

@@expychristian Well, I just mean in terms of the scale from the boss fights really. However, yeah, exactly. It would’ve been too easy to just say “you are forgiven Kratos, you saved us”, no the go the extra mile to list almost all of Kratos’ atrocities while also acknowledging his path has always been complicated.

[@expychristian]

@@insectostrich4407 Oh yeah definitely, I was expecting a fight against the World Serpent at some point before the giants prophecy plot twist with Atreus. But, that they instead went out of their way to really have the audience behold the way Kratos has been shackled by his past life is good for continuity; I don't imagine Kratos being rageful forever, hence those conversations with Mimir, Atreus, Tyr, and Faye. It shows that Kratos has been just a man trying to make the most out of what the world has shoveled in his face. It's not the most glorious path to self-mastery, but its certainly one of the most, dare I say, semi-realistic and accurate, given the circumstances.

[@hairlessgrizzly559]

This franchise has definitely had some bad parts, and Ragnarok fell short in some ways storywise (honestly, my only issue is how short Ragnarok is, in the game centered around it) But Kratos' story of rage and redemption was beautiful to see

[@expychristian]

@hairlessgrizzly559 I WAS expecting a full three-course saga with the Norselands, personally. So that we could cover more of the mythology in even more depth. But I do like that they took the apocalyptic themes of Ragnarok to sort of give a sense of urgency in regards to how Kratos deals with his shortcomings and the flaws of others when the world looks like it's about to end. That we have a very controlled environment in Valhalla, at least relative to dealing with Odin, was an uncertain surprise, but, like as you said, it helped to facilitate how Kratos finds his redemption through his own troubled past.

[@gambit1205]

Or what is your genre I like this

[@expychristian]

@gambit1205 I would say my genre is video essays/analysis! Usually focused primarily on video games, but I've covered stuff like TV shows and anime before.

[@franken_playes]

i just wish i could play the older ones i cant find a decent way to play them

[@expychristian]

@franken_playes I believe they had remastered the older games for the Playstation? You could try that (assuming you have a Playstation 4/5). I get where you're coming from, though, it's difficult to find these older titles when we finally want to try them out.

[@lucky4d725]

Emulators exist mate

[@franken_playes]

@lucky4d725 yes but i haven't gotten 1 to work yet

[@lucky4d725]

@@franken_playes what emulator have you been using?

[@franken_playes]

@@lucky4d725 dolphin mostly becuase of crowd control

[@Bam_Bizzler]

Instead of jesus redeeming kratos, kratos is gonna become jesus

[@expychristian]

@@Bam_Bizzler Certainly an interesting take on the Christian rise within the God of War universe. Who knows? I've seen a bit of the theories surrounding Christianity, so I can't say for certain, but a few themes and hints here and there suggest the presence of Jesus Christ within the universe so I guess we'll see where they go with the story as it is now.

[@overweightgerbil6747]

Be strange if somehow they make kratos the first convert of judaism or christianity with the way his redemption arc has been going.

[@expychristian]

@overweightgerbil6747 It's certainly out there. I've seen the various theories for Kratos setting the way for Jesus Christ to come down, ie. acting as a forerunner for Christianity. I would not be surprised, though, how they follow up and finish such a course, I wouldn't know. It's an intriguing prompt, though.

[@g3n3ral1nsanity5]

Until you realize he was odin the whole time and tyr was dead by odins hand

[@expychristian]

@@g3n3ral1nsanity5 Tyr was found alive at the end of God of War: Ragnarok, right after the final battle. If that is what you are referring to. So Tyr is actually still alive, even after the whole "Odin was impersonating Tyr" thing.

[@g3n3ral1nsanity5]

@@expychristian I didn't play ragnarok yet

[@expychristian]

@g3n3ral1nsanity5 Ah. That's my bad for the spoiler then 😥

[@g3n3ral1nsanity5]

@@expychristian dw I just didn't know thx for the vid

[@g3n3ral1nsanity5]

As Kratos said don't be sorry be better

[@themoongateofficial]

*A God Of Fools*

[@expychristian]

@@themoongateofficial 🤷‍♂️

[@POWBxDX4DxZOMB]

REALL💯💯💯.🙏🏽🩸

[@expychristian]

@@POWBxDX4DxZOMB Real. 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@Geffi01]

I *HOPE* that he goes back to the *WAR* attitude, because God of Hope sounds so fcking cheesy my ears gonna bleed from that one. His story seems to be so "finished", it kinda scares me for the future a bit. Because there is not one bit of interest in me to play Atreus just one more second

[@expychristian]

To each their own. Though I suspect that Kratos won't be the main character moving forward, but possibly supporting cast. His story is effectively complete with Valhalla, while Atreus' is just getting started. I trust they can change Atreus' gameplay to fit newer games especially if he is gonna be the leading protagonist.

[@Geffi01]

@@expychristian Yeah who knows how it will turn out. I'm no hater, just pointing out some concerns. I'm happy when future Atreus games turn out to be good, but I would definitely always miss to kick some ass with Kratos.

[@expychristian]

@@Geffi01 If anything, I'd be down for some free DLC expansions where Kratos uses the other weapons we saw Tyr use in sort of combat trials. Atreus can be the main campaign point, but that doesn't mean we can't have some Kratos on the side to dish out some heavy action gameplay.

[@gambit1205]

What would you call this genre??

[@expychristian]

@@gambit1205 Video essays! Although the genre for this video would be more about drama, character development, and storytelling.

[@HitmanHimself]

1. The story of Kratos pre godhood was of a warrior obsessed with victory and conquest (not to protect his home or whatever)* 2. Orkos ends up helping Kratos in his tenure at Delos and Delphi, helping the warrior to extract his own revenge against the furies & ares* 3. Kratos never sacrificed his life to release hope* 4. Actions for his vengeance* not justice. What is this? a white washing of Kratos or whatever?

[@expychristian]

@HitmanHimself I suppose context matters. I'm primarily going off of the new perspective that Tyr offered to Kratos during the Valhalla DLC. Although Kratos was indeed ambitious and power-hungry, context provides that he needed it in order to counter the barbarian horde; think of it as needing the power to stop another power. Plus it's Grecian culture he was raised within. Ambition and power is at the top of the hierarchy when it comes to ideals and values. Orkos gives Kratos the push to beat Ares, but Kratos still essentially sacrificed bits and pieces of his remaining humanity in the process. That then translated to vengeance against the Greeks for not absolving his sins (his fault, but he was also manipulated). Kratos "technically" sacrificed himself at the end of GoW3. That's what the blue pillar of light was. Tyr even mentioned it in Valhalla. And yes, Kratos wanted vengeance. As it was the only way he saw he could mete out justice to the gods. I was rather straightforward in scripting, so I understand how these details might be perceived differently.

[@HitmanHimself]

@@expychristian You can't use whatever Tyr says as a progression of Kratos' character, like you said "his perspective", not a fact. Kratos didn't progress from a general trying to protect his home to become a god saying monster. Kratos progressed from a war general obsessed with conquest to a god slaying monster. "Grecian culture" The Grecian culture is not to be blamed at all for his obsessive attitude, it was purely his own buildup, you can watch his childhood & younger days in comics, and the other Spartans weren't massive conquest obsessed people like him at all really. He was the distinct element out of them, GoW1 flashback implies it effectively itself you don't need even the comics really. "Sacrifice provided by Tyr" Again, not a progression of Kratos' character, Tyr's perspective, not a fact. What Tyr says is nothing but to make Kratos cope up with his past.

[@HitmanHimself]

@@expychristian the blue pillar of light proves it was a "sacrifice", common you can't be real, The blue pillar is nothing again but another consequence of his actions. A consequence of him trying to end his life as he always wanted, it was a suicide nothing more, not a sacrifice at all that he made. Over glorifying or miscontexualizing his actions are nothing but an assassination of his character, and that would ultimately underrated his progression aswell. (Now that's whole another discussion whether that progression was earned by the studio, which it wasn't, and whether his progression in Valhalla or Raganrok was necessary, which wasn't either). You can say that I'm making things up, but even an original director of 3 disagreed that it was "sacrifice".

[@expychristian]

@HitmanHimself 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ It's just how I perceived what happened, with the given context and all. According to the video, I advocate for the unleashing hope scenario as thematic to his journey, as well as how Tyr is able to communicate to Kratos how he can become a best version of himself as is possible.

[@chad-bin-sigma]

I really need your vocabulary

[@expychristian]

@@chad-bin-sigma Thank you! I do read A LOT and listen to other video essayists as well. I recommend Sage's Rain KZbin channel as well as TEDTalks for topics like the Hero's Journey. Heres a link to one such video! Hope you can enjoy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpnOZYFvdpWieaMfeature=shared

[@wingedassassin9999]

he is not the god of hope, he quite literally still is a god of war. he said "god of hope" in reference to this thoughts that he could be better, he also called himself a good of fools if im not mistaken. now everyone jumps at this one statement and says kratos is now a god of hope. how cringe is that

[@winniethepooh-bc4wj]

affect of people lacking media literacy and glazing Krate.

[@expychristian]

@wingedassassin9999 I don't think he ever will be. It's more of a symbolic metaphor to his transformation. Tyr never said he was a god of hope, but he taught Kratos that if he is gonna take up the new position of All father, he's gonna need to learn how to overcome his mistakes and past in order to really give himself personal peace moving forward. What Kratos becomes is someone that people can look up and someone he can be at peace with. "God of hope" is more a reference to how he developed as a character, rather than an actual position or power he has. Pandora, her statue, Mimir, Tyr; there's plenty of people that see that Kratos has given hope to the world around him. But he has to realize that himself before he can actualize it in thought and deed. Not to mention, I think it's great character development. He's absolutely monstrous and was during Greece. But that he wants to change shows maturity on his part, even if it is a slow-burner that required a lot of time.

[@winniethepooh-bc4wj]

@@expychristian Eh I don't it was really "great character development", It's just the bias of people wanting to see their favourite character getting in a better position, having more peace and fulfillment that he didn't have before. Time skips aren't "great character development". That's always been the series' problem. As for god of hope, the person was commenting a lot of people call him "god of hope" literally, they lack media literacy, and/or are too biased to put their fav protagonist on a pedestal he isn't.

[@expychristian]

@@winniethepooh-bc4wj 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ To each, their own. I gotta ask then: what do you consider "good character development"? I'm curious.

[@winniethepooh-bc4wj]

@@expychristian I consider good character development when it's done on the screen, not off the screen, no journey was taken, you have gow3 Kratos, cut straight to gow 2018 Kratos, atleast more than a century later. 2 very different people, where was that journey for his change? yeah no where. The work of god of war 2018 is only appreciated because people like seeing a tragic and monstrous person like Kratos being in a lot better state, don't they? Give people some positive thing happening in the story they suddenly will love it. Imagine if Kratos was a noble person in greek games, and suddenly in gow 2018 he's a monster ripping people apart for no reason. You won't see any "good character development" opinions anywhere. And it's not like i'm observing what others do and pointing a finger at them. I have been guilty myself of it, I liked watching him as a better in 2018 myself. And I thought it's a good character development, but the more I played Ragnarok/Valhalla went back to 2018, I realized it the same offscreen development nonsense again.

[@lastround2357]

worst god of war version in history is the Norse games. god of jokes!

[@expychristian]

@@lastround2357 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ To each their own.

[@lastround2357]

@@expychristian would have accepted that if the entire thing wasn't lore inaccurate filled with annoying characters the last of us clones. like I can agree that some one can like tlou and I cant but not a game that has been lore wise butchered into oblivion and nobody takes issue with that.

[@expychristian]

@@lastround2357 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@fictionnerd78]

⁠@@lastround2357How are the Norse Games lore butchered into oblivion? (Solely speaking for GOW 2018 here because I’ll freely admit Ragnarok is not at all perfect in its use of mythology)

[@lastround2357]

@@fictionnerd78 it's refreshing to see at least some people agree on Ragnarok having a ton of issues. Cory projected his own issues into a game that doesn't fit with it's themes. took a game that has nothing to do with gow and just made a clone out of it. as if gow series on its own isn't a big inspiration. Cory doesn't care about gow series. he literally called them "just a game for angry teenagers" and one time he forgot the name Pandora!. another obvious thing is that this isn't who kratos really is. its God of Cory to be more accurate. kratos isn't someone that can take comfort in an annoying child and family. he tried that after his brother Deimos and it wasn't enough for him. and gow 3 wasn't supposed to end like that either! a sad, lonely, depressed man that only a woman can fix him! that's so lame and cliché! I can go on for ever but no. clearly nobody cares. all they want is another clone of the daddy depth issues.

[@comatoastlife]

If the game is called GOD OF HOPE......no one is going to buy tht sht i want a GOW not a goh

[@expychristian]

@@comatoastlife To each their own. I did value how they were able to continue Kratos' story in the norselands, though I can see why people might be put off by the sheer differences between the two versions of Kratos.

[@comatoastlife]

@@expychristian Dont get me wrong, the game is good.....just not as good as the old ones imo

[@expychristian]

@@comatoastlife Fair. Older ones definitely had a more free-flowing gameplay compared to the norselands. A larger arsenal and more space to move around helped as well.

[@Doshanko]

Next game should be God of War: A New Hope