Hi! This is a re-uploaded version of a video I released earlier in the month. Unfortunately, that video was deemed not age-appropriate by KZbin because of some of the examples I used, and so the video had a big scary warning before you could watch. I wasn’t happy with that, so decided to upload a new version with the icky stuff taken out (plus, I removed a Celeste spoiler, and fixed the high/low pyramid silliness!). Ultimately, I want my channel to be suitable for a general audience - including schools and universities, so I feel this was the right call to make. Also, I want to say sorry to anyone who was made to feel uncomfortable by the previous video. Certainly wasn’t my intention, and I screwed up. Going forward, I’m going to be more careful about the types of content I show. That means less gratuitous violence, and clear labelling or warnings if such content is necessary for the video. You can always watch the original version here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJibppqMZ6yVm6c
@Joel2Million4 жыл бұрын
nice, except I am indifferent violence in your vids :P
@flupyt11824 жыл бұрын
Game Maker's Toolkit damn I was so excited for another game design vid but it will do. Anyway I really enjoy your vids and it really opens my thoughts on how I look at games
@tonelsen4 жыл бұрын
Hey, it’s okay. Your videos are really well done and should be shown to as many people as possible
@GMTK4 жыл бұрын
@Jimmy T Proper new video tomorrow :)
@Canadas_Very_Own4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the explanation. I was confused for a moment there.
@retractingblinds4 жыл бұрын
Environmental storytelling: the art of putting a skeleton next to an unflushed toilet
@stoked90044 жыл бұрын
"Why does somebody not know how to flush a toilet after they’ve had a shet? Disgoostang"
@KageRyuu64 жыл бұрын
Well you know how they went, shitting their guts out.
@retractingblinds4 жыл бұрын
@@stoked9004 "and that's a good thing." -Ken Levine
@ens02464 жыл бұрын
@@stoked9004 and therein lies the mystery. You walk in to decimated stall and see nothing but brown. I see a whole spectrum of possibilities. This man, he likes his meat, he's always liked his meat. He thinks it makes him strong. Makes him a man. And it works for him...for a while. He has his fun, he falls in love, and everything is going great. Until that one strain on the toilet felt not painful, not pleasant, just odd...different. He thinks it's nothing. But little does he know that 30 years of whiskey and beers, surf n turf and turf n turf have wreaked havoc on his insides. What you see now is his moment of realisation. He had ignored the pains and the twists in his guts to this day but now sitting there not only is it waste but all strength flowing out of him. So much so that he has none left to even flush. Sweating and crippled this man of pride musters himself just enough will to call his wife. The medics come and they take him to hospital. "ulcerative colitis. You could have died, sir." And here you stand, with a judgemental sneer marked across your lips, in the shadow of a prideful man's shattered shame. Pissing on it, as you hum the tune being pumped in from the front. We've all gotta go sometime...
@MrHack4never4 жыл бұрын
@@ens0246 my feeling is more along the lines of something big and sudden like a nuclear blast or similar Example: He sat there, doing his... Business, as he noticed the bright flash out the window It happened A nuclear bomb was thrown, and has hit its target: the town square He hoped that the war would never reach such an... _aggresive_ point of action, but sadly, it didn't When the shockwave reached him, he has thrown into the wall, breaking his neck and killing him instantly
@papayafish85194 жыл бұрын
I'll never forget going into The Abyss in Hollow Knight for the first time. The long drop onto piles of corpses with the music slowly rumbling in then you find remnants of the King's research. The final part with the Abyssal egg really did it for me and honestly shocked me a little. One of the best video game areas I've ever been in.
@BGDMusic Жыл бұрын
it shows us the unspeakable horror (or, whatever it is) the pale king did in the name of good
@roushington4 жыл бұрын
Sorry Mark, this video is too offensive for the general KZbin public. Your daring lack of swearing, great educational message, and general lack of offensive content is just too offensive for this site.
@fungers15144 жыл бұрын
Yeah, how KZbin thinks it has any moral ground after supporting Pewdiepie etc. is insane.
@brainnuke54504 жыл бұрын
@@fungers1514 wut
@denisshevchenko18494 жыл бұрын
It is pretty offensive. But not as offensive as playing Dota2 on SEA server and your teammate picking phantom assasin to play hard support.
@ens02464 жыл бұрын
@@colin-campbell careful now, KZbin is a platform, not your boss or a job. Saying otherwise would grant you rights as an employee, and we wouldn't want any of THAT would we? We want all the money, no responsibility. That's the dream baby.
@willowweedsYT4 жыл бұрын
Ok sure, You Tube is usually somewhat hypocritical, but I do appreciate not having gore in a video that's trying to be educational so I can watch it freely anywhere, it's not just nonsense.
@aintheidot91114 жыл бұрын
Can you bring back: “Hi, I’m Mark Brown, and this is Game Maker’s Toolkit.” I love it!
@deadlandplacebo16954 жыл бұрын
I think he stopped because people were calling him pretensius
@jinkiskhan19674 жыл бұрын
@@deadlandplacebo1695 What's pretentious about that statement?
@deadlandplacebo16954 жыл бұрын
@@jinkiskhan1967 Im not sure maybe because it's a lot more formal. I do know that mauler hates in at least. Personally I do hope he brings it back
@gameformation21004 жыл бұрын
@@jinkiskhan1967 I think it is because he is pretending to be Mark Brown.
@anntakamaki19603 жыл бұрын
Hindu Rome!
@laurenbastin88494 жыл бұрын
I feel like another great example of half-life 2’s level design telling a story is city 17’s architecture. The second you get your first look at the city, the instant juxtaposition of the combine’s alien technology and the existing lived-in, even crumbling, Eastern-European architecture of the previous city. This immediately informs the player that the combine aren’t looking to rebuild or improve human society, choosing only to implement the technology necessary to keep the population suppressed instead of building an entirely new city. All that immediately makes clear that the combines primary goal is to take, and firmly establishes them as being against humanity.
@distantsea3 жыл бұрын
I always loved the combine aesthetic of just setting up shop wherever works because inconveniences like a building in the way of a Citadel cable are too insignificant to worry about so they either go around or straight through without any real demolishing or clean up. They are so large that things we would consider as obstacles to new buildings are acceptable or even nonexistent. Nove Prospekt is also a great example of this
@cupriferouscatalyst37082 жыл бұрын
@@distantsea like those moving walls you see in Interloper and later back in City 17, that are basically walking sets of teeth eating the entire city slowly but surely.
@CatsT.M2 жыл бұрын
Something I love when you first step outside of the trainstation and see City 17 is that Dr. Breen is talking about how the Combine is doing it all to help humanity, it is such a great moment. Another great moment for both enviormental storytelling and musical is the moment after you get out of Ravenholm, where you have a very short moment of respite and to get a few supplies before you first encounter snipers and the combine soilders. But you find a warehouse with rebels fighting with the soilders. After you kill the soilders in the warehouse you learn that a random rebel, Winston, has been shot and who will probably die. Then Triage at Dawn plays, a song that is both sad and inspiring song. Inspiring because you have finally seen people after an entire night of seeing horribly mutated corpses and after Black Mesa East was raided and you learn that Alyx made it out alive. And sad because Winston, a character you never knew, and to everyone it has just become a common thing instead of a horrible tragedy which in normal times all those average poeple would have thought before the Combine. (Also, a short bit about the song: the inspiring postiveness of the trumpets only come in when someone says: "we have been getting transmissions from Alyx" because you finally know, after an entire night of pure death and destruction, that people from Black Mesa East are alive.) (That was a bit much, sorry.)
@Paul_Ward Жыл бұрын
Not environmental, but the line "we don't go to Ravenholm" is great, in one sentence, we get the sense that it's an awful place to be without having to be info-dumped.
@jessh4016 Жыл бұрын
*replies with that picture of an amazon center next to a slum*
@GermaphobeMusic4 жыл бұрын
This is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them!
@nintySW4 жыл бұрын
what
@GermaphobeMusic4 жыл бұрын
ninty Check Mark's pinned comment
@coentertainer4 жыл бұрын
@@GermaphobeMusic the other one is unlisted, there's only one public version of this on his channel
@UnderTheMicroscopeGaming4 жыл бұрын
Okay Vic Roy 👌
@SilverstarStream4 жыл бұрын
Having played through Hollow Knight again since the first upload, I want to share how the Deepnest level shows off the concepts in the video. Upon first entering the area, at least how a typical player might, the player will see a mountain of bugs that the Mantis Lords have kept at bay and then hear the constant grinding of thousands of bugs piled on top of each other. These are no more dangerous than spikes that the player has encountered before, but become unsettling because of the audio visual combination. Throughout Deepnest, the pathways are narrow corridors with low ceilings. These corridors are winding and dark, so they're very easy to get lost in, especially without a map. This harshly contrasts the breathing room the player is given in the area before, Fungal Wastes. Also, every room has its own noises, from the scraping of the aforementioned bugs in pits, the loud rumbling of massive invincible centipedes, or the screeches of nearby bugs. Enemies will appear from the floor, the foreground, or even from enemies that have already been defeated. Each of these factors drive fear into the player. At least coming back to the game now with experience, the area isn't all that difficult, aside from the noticeable fewer save points. Despite this knowledge, it still gives me the creeps and brings me back to the first time I got lost in Deepnest. I hate the feeling, but can also appreciate how masterfully the area uses its design to create that fear, creating a very memorable area.
@breadstick43754 жыл бұрын
SilverstarStream hollow knight was a good game, i still need to finish it
@michaelhenry32344 жыл бұрын
@@breadstick4375 I'm still stuck on Radiance :(
@funkuro4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhenry3234 did you beat it yet? probably go on a guide. after beating him a few times he's really easy
@michaelhenry32344 жыл бұрын
@@funkuro No I haven't, though I never really tried. I did search up a guide, but that just demoralized me and I think I had already gotten burnt out, so I half-assed a few attempts and haven't gone back to the game. I'll probably return to the game and finish it before Silksong drops.
@everettewebber56804 жыл бұрын
Also this is the one area where you find the map guy cowering in fear rather than his usual humming.
@acadia58984 жыл бұрын
i love that this channel is not an annoying essayist youtuber filled with selfaware bad jokes. i'm so tired of these type of youtubers. i'm so happy that i found this channel! great video!
@dearmas90683 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The internet is full of people who have never done a thing, offering nothing but hot takes and opinions about how others should do that thing.
@Sirebellum13373 жыл бұрын
Dishonored has some of my favorite environmental storytelling. The amount of people you kill throughout the game heavily influences what the guards are talking about, how many weepers (zombie sick people) there are, and what your colleagues think of you. The more dead bodies the community finds, the more scared they get. If you go killing everyone you see, you'll find people shooting themselves in later levels. The guards talk about places you haven't been to yet, so when you go there you feel a sense of fear if they talked poorly about it. There is a lot of decoration that reminds you that you're in a world with a deadly plague, and that there have been many survivors that came before you in certain areas. Overall that game has such a distinct vibe
@NPCLiam2 жыл бұрын
Such an amazing set of games. Im not sure where DOTO story took things, haven’t played it yet, but I hope we see more in that universe.
@duckpotat9818 Жыл бұрын
And also how pristine the wealthy areas are in contrast showing the wealth gap
@jamesjin16684 жыл бұрын
“Sky: Children of the Light” by Thatgamecompany is a fine example of excellent environmental storytelling. While the history of the world and emotional contexts are all brilliantly conveyed through most of the elements included in the video, what’s most impressive is how the environment conveys identity to the player. Through how the player as the protagonist interact with the environment to progress, the game tells the player to behave cooperatively, benevolently, and gently. Just the design of the environment completely removes the need for explicit behavioural guidelines in a real-time multiplayer game like this.
@lachlanmccormick34864 жыл бұрын
1. I'm seeing this game in a fair few comments sections now, good to see it gaining some traction. 2. The ways the game inspires non-toxic and positive cooperation is worthy of a talking point all its own. My favorites are how it limits written communication between players. If you want to communicate with strangers you can only do so with (well crafted) emotes or with the calls (kinda like pings). If you want to write to a player you can do it in one of 3 ways, sitting a a bench with strangers, befriending someone and collectively putting in some currency, or by sending them a friend QR code. Now this last one is a stroke of genius because not only does it make it easier for players to get their irl friends into the game but it also encourages the community to connect outside of the game, it's easy to meet and join 1-7 other people being ubered through a candle run. The Ubers are a whole other great point cause they're popular and entirely __player driven__ for no cost.
@chinchillageneral4 жыл бұрын
Hollow Knight is probably one of the best examples of environmental storytelling I have ever seen. No area is without a sense that something went horribly, horribly wrong
@Phartonium4 жыл бұрын
what Remains of Edith Finch is extremely focused on level design. Each gameplay sequence makes you live the life of a different member of the family, but before that, getting into their rooms tells A LOT about each person. Decoration, toys, drawings, notes: their rooms ae packed with clues about their life.
@rrob774 жыл бұрын
Ufortunately they forgot to put any remarkable gameplay in it. Vanishing of Ethan Carter is a much better way of telling a story and making the player active on unfolding it. In many "walking simulators" there is no substantial difference on playing the game or watching a walktrough from someone else. I wish more developers learned from what was achieved in the vanishing on Ethan Carter and would build upon it
@rrob774 жыл бұрын
@@Voingous the gameplay is very simplistic and one dimensional in Edith Finch: just going forward and pressing a button randomly would often make you progress through the game. I don't think that can be considered good gameplay. Did you try Ethan Carter instead? Can you feel the difference?
@sebazpereyra94314 жыл бұрын
@@rrob77 I mostly agree with this, but not entirely. There is one level in Edith Finch that's incredible in the way it mixes gameplay and storytelling. The one where you control the kid working at the factory while simultaneously controlling what he is dreaming about. While most of the game was pretty uninteresting to me, as you said, just another walking sim, I feel that level is a masterpiece.
@rrob774 жыл бұрын
@@sebazpereyra9431 That's true and I love that section too. But my point on the gameplay structure is still valid and it affects many other modern games. What the developers of Ethan Carter achieved should have set a new standard for those type of narrative games; instead it remains a white fly.
@halesm5720 Жыл бұрын
Literally came to the comments to add this. It was truly an amazing experience. I'm okay with it being a glorified walking sim... it let the story really speak for itself.
@ridhosamudro21994 жыл бұрын
I feel a sense of deja Vu
@xSpJiGo4 жыл бұрын
deja view my bru
@gabrielcaro4 жыл бұрын
The other video got age restricted by KZbin Bots.
@786Kay7864 жыл бұрын
So what are the changes in this one?
@KageRyuu64 жыл бұрын
@@786Kay786 Primarily the removal of the mention of the brothel in FO4 that has children's toys in one of the rooms, as well as some spoiler mentioned in the pinned comment above. All in all about 48s worth of content.
@uno23sleep4 жыл бұрын
There was a glitch in the Matrix.
@Natt_Skapa4 жыл бұрын
I originally watched this to learn more about game design, but I rewatched it to design a dungeon in D&D
@togashi-azul2 жыл бұрын
Did your game go well?
@Defectivania2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a skilled enough coder to make the kind of video games I'll eventually make, but I love watching these videos because a lot of my ideas for D&D are informed by the video games I've played, and there's a lot each can learn from the other!
@Thor-Orion Жыл бұрын
Video games are just D&D with graphics.
@Natt_Skapa Жыл бұрын
@@togashi-azul surprisingly yes
@dragoran1494 жыл бұрын
"Hi, I'm Mark Brown and this is Game Maker's Toolkit", I REALLY missed that phrase...
@alisoltani56364 жыл бұрын
Metro 2033. The environment in that game made me look through every corner and rewarded pretty nice for it.
@cryanek82864 жыл бұрын
There are examples of this in all my favorite games. In Subnautica, you're left to find out what happened to the survivors as well as the Degasi ship survivors on your own through audio logs, text logs, and just the environment. Bloodborne, Dark Souls, and Sekiro are entirely built on level design and environmental story telling, like when you're left to understand the Background of Senpou Temple or trying to uncover the lore of Yharnam. Other big games that rely on regular forms of Story telling still sprinkle in some of the stuff you talked about. In Red Dead 2, there are lots of houses that you can find out in the wild that leave you to figure out what crazy shit went down in there. And, of course, the Bioshock games are the kings of this stuff imo. There is so much to be deduced from the environment, it is astounding.
@qwertydavid80703 жыл бұрын
What I love about subnautica is how the entire world is built in a way that you can discover more about the story just by exploring more. The deeper you go in the physical world, the deeper you go into the overarching story. It does such a good job at building set pieces that naturally lead the player in specific directions without directly putting markers that tell them exactly where to go (apart from the crash pods and the sunbeam, but those are neccesary. There are no markers that tell you how to access the ghost river, the lava zones, the thermal plant or the sea emperor sanctuary. Instead the game just creates interesting structures and environments that catch the attention of the player and encourages them to explore them)
@chandlergrant10213 жыл бұрын
Notes on this video: At 00:00 - The surroundings and environments can effectively communicate story information and impress an emotional state on the player. At 01:27 - Level design can drive our Understanding, Feeling, and Identity. Understanding Environmental Storytelling At 01:36 - Environmental Storytelling may come from signs, set dressing, warnings written in blood, skeleton poses, and much more. Theme Parks expertly accomplish environmental storytelling. At 02:19 - Environmental Storytelling is “Staging player-space with environmental properties that can be interpreted as a meaningful whole, furthering the narrative of the game.” At 02:29 - Environmental Storytelling requires deductive reasoning to connect details and create an overarching story. Investigative skills let us determine relationships, cause and effect, and history, making us an active participant in storytelling. At 02:58 - Environmental Storytelling is typically performed with static objects, but can also be expressed through overheard conversations, animations in the level, and text. At 03:14 - Environmental Storytelling typically conveys what happened before you arrived, but can sometimes communicate the consequences of your actions - example: kill a shopkeeper and the store is later a police crime scene and then permanently closed. At 03:36 - Environmental Storytelling can also have gameplay uses - suggesting methods to defeat enemies, previewing a hazard, hinting to puzzle solutions. At 04:40 - Level Design At 04:42 - Architecture, layout, materials, and scale can tell us about the people who use the space. For example, verticality can represent the separation of classes, and opulence versus utility can express the purpose of the room. At 05:26 - Levels which resemble familiar environments can communicate what’s possible and help players orient themselves by relying on pre-existing knowledge and customs. At 06:00 - World Building Communicates factions, plot points, world history, key participants in the story. At 06:15 - Environmental Storytelling, Level Design, and World Building should work in unison to communicate a unified narrative. All elements should march towards the same thematic goal. At 07:43 - Feeling The design of a world can evoke emotions with scale, shape, and color. At 08:01 - Example (Shape) - to create a feeling progression from scared to triumphant, the environment may apply pressure to the player through claustrophobia and then unleash an extremely open environment at the end of the level. At 08:33 - The purpose is to help the player empathize with the character. At 08:39 - Example (Space, Color) - To mimic panic in the player to match the character’s feeling, the space constricts, dead ends force backtracking, fog reduces visibility and drains color, and a tight space slows the movement of the player. Breaking through the tight space removes the fog, restores vibrant color, and opens the space vastly. This communicates the situation is safe and no danger is present. At 09:49 - Example (Color, Scale) - The player begins low with most of the environment bearing down on the character and shaded in dark green. Ascending to the middle of the environment lightens the color and removes overhead weight. Finally, ascending high above the level bathes the character in sunlight. Emotions transition from despair to hope. At 10:32 - Emotion Charts and Intensity Charts At 11:04 - Key sections are identified and a primary emotion is assigned to each part, and then environment design evokes these emotions. At 11:21 - Lots of gear, machinery, and nonchalant allies on your side - hope and confidence At 11:35 - Flames, explosions, and loss of machinery - chaos At 11:41 - Darkness, statues and murals of foreign civilizations, corners limit line-of-sight - mystery At 11:48 - Ascent, open environment, large-scale complex buildings, revealing new information - awe At 12:14 - Claustrophobic corridors, anonymous and demanding soldiers, tall buildings, cages, and security cameras - oppression At 12:22 - Darkness, constant corner-turning, lack of predictability - fear At 12:29 - Gameplay and atmosphere should coincide - horror games use darkness to evoke fear, while stealth games use darkness to evoke power and safety. At 12:45 - Key sections are assigned intensities in order to create the story’s pulse which must be validated by playtesters’ impressions and adjusted as necessary, typically associating threat and danger with intensity. At 13:30 - The intensity and emotion charts can follow story patterns such as the three-act structure: Rising action, low-moment of despair, final climb to victory. At 13:40 - Celeste uses the three-act structure by directly mirroring the story structure graph with altitude and topology. At 14:09 - Journey uses climbing to evoke strength and progression, plummeting to evoke loss and hopelessness, orange for a calm mysterious desert, dark green for a spooky graveyard, white for biting cold, and bright blue for the apex/rebirth. Identity At 14:49 - Players seek clues to help them better inhabit the character they’re playing and make the decisions the character would make. At 15:17 - The environment can influence decisions. Lawless, destroyed areas (Bioshock) permit the character to loot and kill without fear of consequence, but civilized areas with innocent bystanders (Bioshock Infinite) persuade the player to obey societal norms and laws or can make disobedience feel uncomfortable. At 16:01 - (Hitman) Small environments can communicate permitted actions to a player - there are Public (Purpose/Rule) and Private (Professional/Personal) areas - players are not allowed in private residences, kitchens in restaurants, or invite-only venues unless they conform with the societal norms expected for people occupying those spaces such as wearing an acceptable uniform. At 17:01 - Summary - Video game environments can communicate information about former events, inhabitants of the environment, evoke emotion, and contextualize identity
@Stockland475 Жыл бұрын
We need more people like you
@canpppppp Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@giascle4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite instances of environmental storytelling is the lead-up to seeing The Flood for the first time in Halo. It's raining outside. You sneak into a Covenant base, gunning through a pretty standard assortment of enemies, going deeper and deeper inside. But the deeper you go, their numbers start to thin. It's silent except for the dull hum of machinery. You walk through a doorway and your finger jumps for the trigger, but it's only a Jackal, already lying there in a pool of its own blood. Even deeper. You pass by whole rooms of Covenant weaponry, abandoned. You walk through a doorway to find a fellow marine cowering with his back to the wall, piles of alien bodies around him. He immediately starts shooting at you, screaming that he's not gonna be turned into one of those things. He can barely scratch you, but you put him out of his misery. Deeper. Fire, walls crumbling. You seem to walk through the same doorway for the dozenth time. As a single, ambient note starts to play, you pass over health packs and ammo scattered about, like you'll need them. You come to another doorway. The screen goes black. It loads the cutscene.
@giascle4 жыл бұрын
And to be honest I think the cutscene harms it; they could've gone right into the battle because by this point, you know something is very, very wrong.
@Comkill1174 жыл бұрын
giascle I disagree. If you went right into battle fighting the Infection Forms which die in a single hit, you’d be confused as to why they were such a threat, and also wonder what happened to the Marines (the ones upstairs aren’t the same squad) and Captain Keyes.
@giascle4 жыл бұрын
@@Comkill117 Fair point, but even if they're weak I still think the sheer number of them is scary enough on its own. It would possibly mess up the stuff with Captain Keyes later though.
@Khaim.m4 жыл бұрын
That's a great example. Pity the level after it was so completely awful.
@FrancoisJordaan014 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. The games I missed most was The Witness and Inside. There is a wonderful article on Gamasutra about the architecture of The Witness (they contracted an actual architectural practice to help on the game.) Besides ensuring that the all the buildings made sense structurally, they also built into the island hints of 3 historical phases, during which the island was occupied by different civilisations. None of this is directly relevant to the game, but adds immensely to the player's sense of discovery and aesthetic response. That's also what's appealing to me about Inside (and to a lesser degree its forerunner Limbo) -- there is a great effort to make the game world coherent and suggestive of a wider story beyond the game, but what that story is, is never actually revealed. That makes the game subtly different in every player's imagination, and arguably more interesting than something that is spelled out.
@RandomProductionszsz Жыл бұрын
"Inside" would have been also my choice
@CherryMK_64 жыл бұрын
I will never not love the way you can learn so much of what happened in Breath Of The Wild's Great Calamity simply through finding decayed guardians, paths, and ruins
@mapdoor14182 жыл бұрын
Good point
@evolucaohunz4 жыл бұрын
"The Vanishing of Ethan Carter". This game is awesome in "environment story telling". You are literally part of the story being told and it has zero cutscenes.
@wilott904 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough I didn't finish watching the first upload once it got to the first spoiler, which is a shame. Glad to watch a reupload without the spoilers. Thanks Mark, love your content.
@Someone-sq8im4 жыл бұрын
Hollow Knight doesn’t even need cutscenes
@lem20044 жыл бұрын
And the way people tell the story are unique
@richardshen81224 жыл бұрын
There’s only like 4
@silvermoon26084 жыл бұрын
It does have a lot of written npc dialogue though. It would be very hard to tell what was going on without that.
@Jtak-qu5hk4 жыл бұрын
@LOWFRAMEBLOX hunt down the bad mod
@robocop71774 жыл бұрын
Hollow Knight is the best example of level design telling a story IMO
@JadeMarvin4 жыл бұрын
Watched about 3 mins going "Man this seems familiar" before realizing it was a re-upload...
@IQzminus24 жыл бұрын
Psychonauts will always be the best example for me in how to use level design, theme, assets etc to tell a story. One of the best games to show the unique and wonderful storytelling only a videogame can offer. Each level is the mind of a character you meet and interact with through the whole game, and exploring the level you are also learning and understanding a character in the game world. You get this wounderfully beautiful combination of encouraging you to be curious, both in wanting to explore and discorver the level just for the gameplay itself, but also to be empathetic to want to learn more and understand this characters in the world more deeply. And all this done by the player themselves. The player need to connect the symbolic meaning themselves of certain memories being found in a 'secret' room, or finding the traces of the real hurtful story hidden in the sewers under the level where full of the persons retelling and fantasy about what happened. Every single asset, every decision made in the level design, everything has a symbolic meaning. Telling you something about that character. It's the example of how the rule in writing of "show, don't tell" should be done in a video game. And there is a lot to discover. A lot of wonderfully designed characters and levels.
@hansvonlobster12184 жыл бұрын
A nudge to Henry Jenkins' "Game Design as Narrative Architecture" would be nice. He extends on the whole topic and is an interesting and short read. :)
@spartan9904 жыл бұрын
Watched both versions at the same time, and I honestly think this version is stronger for the edits that were made (and the only thing that was "lost" were spoilers). Great job!
@sinjai13374 жыл бұрын
Wtf was offensive in the first one?
@TheWolfgangGrimmer4 жыл бұрын
@@sinjai1337 Probably that one detailed example from Fallout 3. I was cool with it, but it _is_ very racy (and dark) content.
@sinjai13374 жыл бұрын
@@TheWolfgangGrimmer ohhhhhhhhh with the child strippers or whatever. Yeah true, I could see people not wanting to think about that.
@eloujtimereaver45044 жыл бұрын
@@TheWolfgangGrimmer That was cut, as well as one of the scenes with the ripper zipliney tool in BioShock infinite if I recall. It was a little too bad the fallout one was cut, because it is a good example of how designers can express or examine the taboo without running afoul of society.
@abolfazlkhosravi25634 жыл бұрын
i cant believe you left limbo out. the entire story is told trough the enviorment! great work any ways!
@toddschnack31722 жыл бұрын
Great perspective and content - thank you!
@duchi8824 жыл бұрын
Mark may not upload often but when he does you know its gonna be great
@brendantoungate82872 жыл бұрын
Love this video! My two favorite examples are Skies of Arcadia, where you can find "Discoveries" all over the world that tell you different stories within that world and make it feel alive, and The Talos Principle, with the computer program showing signs of decay which makes your mission all the more important.
@lensama91223 жыл бұрын
I love how Hidetaka Miyazaki tells stories - within the inquisitive mind of the observer. Often, just enough information is given to weave one's own tapestry.
@anmakesart Жыл бұрын
I was looking for somebody to mention Zaki, the subtle environmental storytelling in FromSoft games are second to none. One of the examples I will never forget is in Sekiro where you can see large white snake skin on the side of a mountain that is visible way before you actually encounter it, but the kick is: it is easy to miss making the encounter a surprise for most people.
@timdoesleveldesign3 жыл бұрын
Implicit storytelling through the environment is one of the key things I enjoy when playing games! Thanks for all these concrete examples! ❤
@quietly_undone4 жыл бұрын
Basically the Blade Runner of KZbin. I’ll watch the video again when there’s the version without voice over and an added unicorn scene. Good stuff as always!
@johnmatrix36644 жыл бұрын
I wish Mark had pointed out that thoughtful environment design doesn't always equate to a good game. Maybe that goes without saying. It's interesting though how developers can spend so much time crafting a believable world with tons of subtle details and completely forget to make the game fun lol
@fardimnazir6664 жыл бұрын
You seem to have some games in your mind. Could you tell which?
@johnmatrix36644 жыл бұрын
Idk I wasn't thinking of anything specific. I guess for me Horizon Zero Dawn is like this. There's a lot of environmental detail used to distinguish different tribes/nations from each other and tell the story of what happened before the game starts. But all the dialogue is laughably bad, combat is ass, nearly every quest feels identical, and it's just overall kind of a bore to play
@fardimnazir6664 жыл бұрын
@@johnmatrix3664 I kind of think, I get what you mean. All those efforts at world-building would go to waste, if there is no payoff in terms of story or gameplay. Was thinking of Doom 3, with its System Shock-esque audio logs and stuff, just to tell a story that's just about as expansive as whatever was written at the back of the CD case: Fight more demons, survive!
@johnmatrix36644 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah dude I know what you mean. Supplementary/unnecessary story like that doesn't bother me tho, as long as there's meat to the gameplay. As far as I'm concerned, plot should always be of secondary importance to the act of playing. But that's just my opinion
@qwertydavid80703 жыл бұрын
For me the best game with environmental storytelling is the original subnautica. Of course you have the mini stories of the crash pods and how each member came to different ends, the main purpose of that is to make you feel alone and hopeless. But the game does such a good job at evoking natural human curiosity by only using structures and environmental clues. You see a cool ecosystem and you obviously want to explore deeper. You see this giant alien tower structure and you want to go inside to learn more about it. The environments in subnautica are perfectly crafted to let the player explore and figure out the story and narrative by themselves.
@NightFore4 жыл бұрын
Me: A new video! Game Maker's Toolkit: Sorry, re-upload! Also me: *Still watches it again*
@TheBlindWeasel4 жыл бұрын
"A reupload? Well that just means i can focus on the sound of his voice"
@p_pugm_mops74064 жыл бұрын
Inside is an extreme great example of story telling through the environment. The falls and rises in the story are also physical in the game, you are going through various locations. And the events and object in the background help you to figure out the story
@beanquadofbeans49764 жыл бұрын
Hyper light drifter does a really great job with this. Everything from the color, the music, and the ruins help to tell the story of a post apocalyptic world. The best part is that all the story telling is always visual, and never explicitly tells you the story of an area, letting you wander about finding clues of a forgotten history. HLD also does a really good job at showing scale in three dimensions, despite being a 2D game, by using music, color, and perspective to emphasize a location or object. Honestly, this game is probably my favorite of all time and I can’t recommend it enough.
@Soroboruo3 жыл бұрын
"Imagine [game] without cutscenes" you already had my attention with the title xD fr tho, I've been thinking on games recently and how effective one can tell a story without cutscenes or even text or dialogue. Environmental storytelling is so important and so memorable when done right.
@zachary46702 жыл бұрын
That moment on the radio tower in Tomb Raider was magical. Love that game.
@MindETMuch4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the reupload. To be honest, I am more of a Nintendo kind of gamer if you get what I mean even though I love video game culture in its whole which is why I enjoy your essays so very much. But yes, looking at three seconds of intense scary horror combat excerpts honestly frightens me to my core so if I can in the future completely watch your videos without having to cover my eyes, that’s a big plus for me ! So thank you for taking people like me in consideration!
@eragon_argetlam4 жыл бұрын
GRIS is definitely the first game that comes to mind. Absolutely stunning use of the principles in this video.
@quietkiwi75724 жыл бұрын
Adam Jensons apartment after act three, and a certain quest. That feeling of violation combined with a dark raining sky a soft electronica. Prompts you to think about what you did and weather it was the 'right' choice.
@bootstrapbill983 жыл бұрын
deathloop does a great job of visual storytelling, each area changes over the course of the day, making exploring the world a brilliant detective exploration experience and there is a lot of "what the hell happened here" moments that encourage you to return to the area earlier in the day on your next loop
@권용대-b5v4 жыл бұрын
There may be people who’re tired of hearing Dark Souls but for me, the journey from Blighttown to Anor Londo through Sens’s fortress was a rollercoaster experience of emotions I’ll never forget.
@MetaI4Brains4 жыл бұрын
"The best levels in Hitman incorporate a rich mix of those area types." One of the reasons why Colorado is the worst Hitman map.
@renjithjoseph71354 жыл бұрын
I actually really like Colorado because everyone is already an 'enemy'
@pnutz_24 жыл бұрын
on one hand you had to up your game and couldn't rely on strangling everyone, on the other you couldn't scout anywhere on foot without 34507893249087098 people shooting at you
@ellie86744 жыл бұрын
I like it, it's noticeably different from every other level in the last 2 games.
@dhirajsai46983 ай бұрын
I think "inside" is also a perfect example for virtual environmental story telling with gameplay
@sonam98814 жыл бұрын
Mark brown: this is a reupload sorry :p The entirety of his fanbase who appreciates his high quality content: *you hear somethin?*
@NinjaKingAce4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite locations is Rogueport, the hub world and starting point in Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door. The town is set on a remote island in the Mushroom Kingdom, and is spilt down the middle by a turf war between Robbo Gang, lead by Ishnai, and the Mafia of Don Pianta. The west side controlled by Don Pianta and the east side ruled by Ishnail. Neither of the opposing parties seem to have a total control over the market place. At the very beginning of the game, as Goombella starts to tell Mario what's going on, two members of the Pianta Syndicate can be seen to ambush and threaten two Robbo Gang members. Several criminals hide in the back of the tall buildings. A Bandit resides in a house behind Podley's Place; this is the same Bandit that robs Mario at the beginning of the game. The east side of Rogueport, also called Ishnail's Turf by its inhabitants, is an insecure and run-down place controlled by the Robbo Gang, lead by Ishnail. Bandits roam the streets, and when Mario first enters the area, he immediately gets robbed half his coins. The place is dirty, the houses are in a bad shape. The far east part of the east side is guarded by Gus. Mario has to pay him or fight him in order to pass. The Robbo Gang's hideout located in a secret backyard, and several people, like Grifty and Darkly, are hiding in corners or on top of buildings. The west side is a relatively secure area of Rogueport controlled by the Mafia of Don Pianta. Don Pianta's own residence is here behind the item shop. The place is much cleaner than the east side, and there is a fountain as well as a small park. The Pianta family runs the Pianta Parlor and the Westside Goods store in the area. There is also a train station and an airport.
@JohnnoNonno4 жыл бұрын
I just watched the whole video again even though I already knew the content just because I appreciate your work very very much. You're the best Mark!
@sgnirajyt99744 жыл бұрын
I just wanna say u are doing great work, just don't stop keep it up, we all are with u. 👍
@SuperRitz444 жыл бұрын
Every since you talked about the theatre stage in Bioshock 1 in that other video I can't get environmental storytelling out of my head!
@averageasian54624 жыл бұрын
The new thumbnail is a huge improvement 👍
@sockatume4 жыл бұрын
“Spaces can speak volumes.” I see what you did there.
@JaneXemylixa4 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite games that do that is Obduction (by Cyan Worlds, who'd made Myst many years ago). The world of Hunrath is so full of details that tell you how the people here lived and adapted to their unusual circumstances. There are snippets of this in other worlds, too: the scene where you find the dead alien and the overlapping swap circles (long story how that works) basically tells you everything you need to know about the recent conflict, if you can piece these things together.
@guy_incognito4 жыл бұрын
The best example of level design and narrative I can think of is INSIDE -- which I'm shocked wasn't mentioned here. No cut scenes, no explanations, no narrative except for what is on the screen in front of you. And the most compelling game I have ever played. Also a nod to Another World, and Limbo would've been nice.
@elliottcoleman82253 жыл бұрын
AER Memories of Old is one of those lesser known games I found that has some cool environmental story telling. The game's overall design makes you ask questions, and there's all kinds of optional secrets to look for to find out what happened. There's very little dialogue, and most of it is from the ghosts or memories of people who are long dead.
@shawnheatherly4 жыл бұрын
Glad to have this video back up; I don't think the previous version was offensive, but it's good to just be able to watch this either way.
@ORGILMAAAAA4 жыл бұрын
True gamers understand and respect games - and you're doing great job reminding
@canskntsfalan54304 жыл бұрын
I want more stuff like this, seriously this is what i wanted from media when i was a kid
@ShadyNetworker4 жыл бұрын
Oh okay, this IS a re-upload. Glad to see I'm not going insane, thanks!
@dondashall4 жыл бұрын
I've gotten really into metroidvanias beginning last year (where previously I'd never played one) and the entire genre is based around environmental storytelling. While the odd one can have more narrative bits ALL are mostly driven through environmental storytelling.
@lucaslobo80024 жыл бұрын
As a freshman game design student, it's absolutely fascinating to see the stuff I learn in my classes show up in these videos and be explained so well through many examples, and also the stuff I learn here show up in my classes. I'm always amazed by how knowledgeable mark is, and once I got into college and realized that many things I've seen in his videos were actually being taught by my professors, I was sure that these videos are a great source of information and an excellent tool for designers out there.
@GMTK4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! My videos often get used in classes so maybe your prof' will show a GMTK ep at some point :D
@lucaslobo80024 жыл бұрын
Game Maker's Toolkit that would be fantastic! Hopefully one of them will do that
@GhostUponaTimeOfficiel3 жыл бұрын
I've been watching a lot your videos these last few days and everything you say is always so relevant and interesting! Thanks a lot for your hard work, I've been learning a lot thanks to you 🙏
@nefertitimontoya Жыл бұрын
Me too :) it's great background noise for gamejam making
@mysterium3684 жыл бұрын
The Metroid Prime Trilogy does this also, for example at the Federation Crash Site in Prime 2 or on Bryyo in Prime 3.
@cromanticheer3 жыл бұрын
I was just about to mention Talon IV from MP1 as a great example of evoking emotion through setting. Phendrana immediately inspires a sense of wonder by emptying you into a massive gorgeous snowscape, while the Phazon Mines immediately inspires dread with a darker color pallet and a lot of space pirate architecture (which you've been taught to fear over the course of MP1). I think too, while each area is fairly disparate the game does a good job of treating the separate zones as part of a larger picture of a dying planet with a corrupted underbelly. Though, really, all three games are really solid at making distinct, emotional settings.
@BaraTheVeggie4 жыл бұрын
I got so distracted by Dirt Rally 2's incredible soundtrack that I had to rewind. Great taste man!
@kadenlaga99014 жыл бұрын
I always felt like mad max was underrated when it came to this. I loved how every camp felt like it told me a little story about how people survive in their own way. The tire toilets were a nice touch.
@JoeyYan4 жыл бұрын
New follower here. This is the best video on level design in games I've ever watched.
@BucklingSwashes4 жыл бұрын
I am so, so glad to see more people talking about Mankind Divided, and I hope it convinces more people to play it. Despite some awful business decisions by Square Enix (Augment Your Preorder! Buy Praxis kits and ammo!), the game itself is fantastic, and its level design - especially Prague - remains an incredible achievement four years later. The entire city is full of meaningful environmental detail that informs its setting and story. I think I've said elsewhere that while I often find myself taking screenshots of beautiful outdoor vistas in games, MD had me saving images of apartments and storage units.
@ikkeheltvanlig10 ай бұрын
Anyone using Journey as an example for anything has nailed it.
@AbbreviatedReviews4 жыл бұрын
Wow I've never even seen that warning before a video. Looking back at it, I can see the moments that would justify it, but the first time I watched I didn't notice them at all. It's amazing how years of video games have made me totally disassociate the violence in those games from reality.
@OhShootKid4 жыл бұрын
Abbreviated Reviews which part was taken out? If it’s a spoiler gimme a warning
@AbbreviatedReviews4 жыл бұрын
@@OhShootKid I think one of the most notable is an early scene in Bioshock Infinite involving the spinny hook thing. I didn't go through much of it, but I noticed some violent scenes from other games like a burnt body on a fence and some random other bits they'd probably flag.
@OhShootKid4 жыл бұрын
@@AbbreviatedReviews Ahh, yes that is a particularly gory scene from Infinite. Thanks for the response!
@lucio87944 жыл бұрын
Your content's quality and your incredible effort is astounding. Thanks for being like this, as soon as I get out of this virus crysis I'll be glad to fund your amazing work. Good luck with everything!
@AnthanKrufix4 жыл бұрын
14:40 The environment tells it all... .... _And the music._
@RandomProductionszsz Жыл бұрын
As someone else mentioned, "Inside" has fantastic environmental storytelling. The fact that there is no dialogue or other written hints to get you to the story, almost everything is told through the environment and the development of the main character. Another great game not mentioned here is Final Fantasy 7. The whole city of Midgar with it's districts from poor to rich, added with different enemies and npc's that differ and fit the area really helps evoke the story.
@reDActedGameDev2 жыл бұрын
I don't think I've seen this example yet, but my personal favorite storytelling moments through level design is in The Last of Us Part 1 (I haven't played Part 2 yet). The moment in particular that stood out to me is when you're in the sewer system and you pass a section that looks like it was used as a preschool/kindergarten. There's shelves with shoes and chalk drawings everywhere with numbers and the alphabet drawn on the walls..then on the ground you see 3 little bodies covered up with blood on them with their little shoes poking out the bottom of the sheets. It's haunting, yet an amazing moment of telling a story in a blink and you'll miss it moment.
@jacobmauk8534 жыл бұрын
I think a great example of environmental story telling is The Forbidden Lands in Shadow of the Colossus, with it's broken architecture and structures that suggest what may have been there beforehand. It just such a cool place to explore even though its empty.
@Oxmond4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Well done. I also liked the first version ❤️👍
@ygyeung2056 Жыл бұрын
thx for explain the world, level design how to enrich the game, give it sense, emotion player feeling, etc.
@FizzleFX4 жыл бұрын
*Journey and Homeworld* are my bar for measuring exceptional storytelling. Journey by.. well, the journey. and Homeworld by nothing more than simple pictures and HIGHLY engaging telling (as well as the adventures forming you/your fleet through the game)
@AllFloofAndNoThoughts4 жыл бұрын
Im surprised it is not mentioned but I always thought the absolute best example of level design telling a story was in both play dead's inside and limbo. They are not the only games that level design pretty much is the only thing that tells the story but they are quintessential examples
@ZephyrBassPiano4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, totally
@senza45914 жыл бұрын
Epic, time to watch it again. This channel is so good, I'm quite happy to rewatch videos.
@seannamonroe53504 жыл бұрын
I think the best example of environmental storytelling is in the indie game GRIS, where the environment helps relay the feelings of grief and the stages one goes through when experiencing it. This is primarily done through the use of colors in the environment and the beautiful art direction that gives a sense of scale to the platform puzzles and creatures that inhabit this world, including the protagonist Gris herself.
@shaydes- Жыл бұрын
splatoon is one of my favorite series so I'm a little biased but the environment in those games are always so detailed and say a lot about the people that live in these places (example stickers on every surface, spilled soda on one of the tables, slushee machines in one of the buildings. it shows off that it is fun teenagers and kids in these areas)
@samghost134 жыл бұрын
Again! Deus-Ex is showing us how good this series really is! Love your Show so Interesting to watch and to think about the games in another perspective. Really really cool!
@tylerpayne74674 жыл бұрын
Hmm, Interesting seeing this again. Thank you for going threw the effort to rejig this episode. I personally am not a fan of particularly gory Scenes in video-games, so you saying you will try to keep it more "General audience" is greatly appreciated. Also lovely seeing Journey still talked about. Best of luck in your Future Endevors.
@thequintessentialgamer75144 жыл бұрын
Gris is a 2d platformer that uses altitude to define how well you're feeling. Starting up high and falling, slowly picking yourself up. Part of it you travel deeper underground as the environment darkens and you encounter monsters. You find you way out by traveling upwards, and end the game by literally climbing your way to the stars
@Chiater Жыл бұрын
Dark Souls is a masterclass in this. Not only is the storytelling done through the level design (and items) but it's also incredibly interconnected and done in a way to have you see something in the distance and eventually make it to that point and be like OMG! it's that castle I saw at the beginning of the game... Also it makes a huge impact on gameplay - you can fight the same enemy in twi very different spaces and it be an incredible challenge in one area and be pretty simple in the next just due to the level design. Ingenious
@yoshimasachong27664 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. It'd be cool if you made a video about how titles screens in video games are made and how many games handled them differently
@ZephyrBassPiano4 жыл бұрын
Hyper Light Drifter is like THE game without words (and Journey too). But Hyper Light Drifter doesn’t tell a story with the environment. It gives a really good feeling because of the best soundtrack, beautiful pixel art and smooth gameplay. (Great vid)
@lemuero3 жыл бұрын
This is genius. THIS my friends is the magic cook book we all need to make games (besides mechanics)
@111111111111111owner4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man! That's really insightful.
@Deibodese2 жыл бұрын
The very best example I can think of where environmental design gives you a sense of who the character you’re playing as really is, is that tiny segment in Doom Eternal where the lady on the PA system calmly warns the facility that you’ve arrived. That would make anyone feel like an unstoppable badass.
@jonniboye63992 жыл бұрын
I always thought the elder scrolls games did a great job providing narrative through the environment. They didn't necessarily reinforce some main narrative but just gave you the sense that you were in a wide world with a bunch of people who all had their own (sometimes nefarious) intentions.
@atikahrostam57783 жыл бұрын
not my first time here. everytime i watch this i learn something new
@kp56024 жыл бұрын
I literally just finished all 3 games and the DLC's yesterday. Wow!
@07jackg4 жыл бұрын
As always - great video, especially your choice of music.
@ChrisfromLeedsinUK4 жыл бұрын
Somehow missed both the original and this version of the video. I remember reading how Splash Damage aimed to create environmental narrative in Enemy Territory: Quake Wars. It was quite fascinating how much effort went into an online multiplayer shooter. The game is set on Earth shortly after the invasion of the Strogg, a prequel of sorts to Quake 2. The devs wrote that they took inspiration from the Lord of the Rings trilogy and created very distinctive looks and themes for the two sides in the same way that in the films you know what is Elfish, Dwarven or Orcish. Playing through some of the maps where the Human faction were on attack you could see areas decimated by the Strogg, you could tell something had gone down. The Strogg augmented their tech onto existing buildings which was where the objectives were located. It was clever way to give players a clear idea where to head to without big massive objective markers (they still used these but could be turned off). It also meant you knew you were close to the enemies spawn points. Maps would also typically start on the outskirts of these main bases, normally out in the open where the landscape hasn't been touched much by the war. You'd have to take out a shield generator or hack the security controls to gain access to the next area of the map. As you progressed, these maps areas looked more savaged by the Strogg and action got more focused to indoor areas where the objectives were located. Was a great build up, getting more tense as you went on. Sadly not all maps were like this for reasons highlighted in this video, different level designers working on them.