Why no backplate? Because it's the late 14th century! Fully developed steel backplates are still emerging technology and wouldn't become very common until after the turn of the 14th/15th century. A coat of mail is a perfectly suitable and well documented back defense for this time period (and breastplates would even continue to be worn without backplates for the next 100 years in certain configurations of armor). My later c1415 harness _does_ have a backplate and complete cuirass but that would be inappropriate for the 1390s. Additionally, fighting in close formations of men-at-arms also doesn't present one's back to one's enemy nearly as much as one might think. If you'd like to learn more about the development of back armor, here is a video on that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZqUfo2eerFgY7c
@chieckenman44323 жыл бұрын
I see, was wondering that
@mina75722 жыл бұрын
You should make a video showing your different armor configurations in chronological order and do a 360° turn with each.
@jj9879879872 жыл бұрын
What changed during the late 14th century that all the sudden they feel the needs to have a back plate?
@charlesdeleo4608 Жыл бұрын
That's true, most armors from the 14th century did not have fully developed backplates yet. This type of armor would've been worn by the knights of Richard II when he put down the Peasants' Revolt of 1381, as well as by the knights who fought for the Serbian Prince Lazar Hrebeljanović against the Ottoman sultan Murad I at the Battle of Kosovo in 1389, as well as by crusaders that fought against Bayezid I at the Battle of Nicopolis in 1397. Most knights didn't get the additions of backplates to their armor panoplies until around the time of the Lancastrian phase of the Hundred Years' War, when Henry V defeated the French at Agincourt, and even when Joan of Arc paved the way for the successful French counteroffensives against the English. By the second half of the 15th century, though, this style of armor is being superseded by the advanced suits of plate armor that were already starting to emerge in Milan and Augsburg, such as the famed "Gothic style" that was definitely one of the popular styles of the late 15th century and early 16th century, but that's a topic for a whole other video.
@danielmace4066 жыл бұрын
The moment you tried to raise the visor and it immediately fell was such a Monty Python moment...
@vanillaicecream23854 жыл бұрын
who are you so wise in the art of science
@Nantosuelta2 жыл бұрын
one of my favorite bits of visual comedy is the design of Terry Jones helmet in The Holy Grail, and the fact that the visor cant stay up so he just has to hold it there
@valkyrjavakre64392 ай бұрын
Exactly!!!
@Saganen8 жыл бұрын
"My wife is very familiar with putting my armor on and off" This guy is a legend.
@gaajeshoek2156 жыл бұрын
he should have said my squire.
@LordVader10946 жыл бұрын
+gaajes hoek Why? His wife is far more fitting for the joke.
@Pawn2e45 жыл бұрын
@@LordVader1094 The man is the legend for having such a well trained wife
@jasonbane36464 жыл бұрын
are you familiar with putting her chastity belt on and off?
@felipeuseche3324 жыл бұрын
I knew as soon as I heard it... someone has to make this comment.
@MrWeAllAreOne5 жыл бұрын
When you hear a noise late at night downstairs....."wife fetch me my armour"
@ze_rubenator9 жыл бұрын
3:15 A little Monty Python moment there =P
@KnyghtErrant9 жыл бұрын
+Ze Rubenator Happens to the best of us! :)
@Nighti889 жыл бұрын
+Knyght Errant Would be interesting how difficult it is, to get somebody out of armor, if he is wounded and can't help or even stand up. Do you know somebody who is a bit in medival medicine? Might be an interesting project for an event. The weight of the parts itself is interesting, but won't lead to any importent conclusion. It's very diferent to just carry around a coat of mail and to wear it. The interesting question is, how much you feel the weight of the armor and how much it may affect you.
@fiddleking44199 жыл бұрын
+Ze Rubenator exactly what I thought too.
@clintcarpentier24248 жыл бұрын
+Nighti88 A small hook blase will make short work of those leather straps. I could have him outta that tin before you could open your can of beans. Even the mail, once released from the plates, can be yanked out from under him. I'm tellin ya, one minute to save his life from a moral wound; the armorer will be weeks re-strapping it back into fighting condition.
@clintcarpentier24248 жыл бұрын
+Ze Rubenator Collab... "Take that evil dire bunny, oh darkspawn, fear my sword of truthiness."
@allhailqueenhelga7 жыл бұрын
Watching this and then watching your new videos, I can see the development of your kit, as you slowly pick up better and better pieces. It's a joy to see!
@KnyghtErrant7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I would just amend that to say _later_ not necessarily _better_ . Our living history club sometimes does scenarios in both the 1380s and early 1400s, so the newer stuff is to suit the later scenarios which we've been doing more of recently.
@allhailqueenhelga7 жыл бұрын
Ahh, okay, that makes sense. Thank you for the correction, actually. Either way, watching people's kit develop is always wonderful.
@metatronyt9 жыл бұрын
Nice one and I love your harness mate. Did you re oil it after this video? I mean do you put a oil coating even for small things like this or only if you take it outside for long?
@KnyghtErrant9 жыл бұрын
+Metatron Thanks Raffaello! No, I don't bother oiling it after something like this. The coating that builds up on it is strong enough to protect it through light handling. After I wear it around outside for a day or two (especially after the public handles my armor all day), then I worry about cleaning it.
@metatronyt9 жыл бұрын
Knyght Errant ok Fantastic because honestly your armour is one of the best maintained armours I have seen, not one single little spot, incredible job. I'm having an armourer make a plate breastplate for me and it's going to be spring steel although I don't think I'll have it hardened as I don't intend on jousting nor fighting on it but just use it for videos and I am worring on how to protect it well as having Indian sheet metal rust is no big deal but having nice and expensive spring steel rust would be such a waste
@KnyghtErrant9 жыл бұрын
I intend to do a video on armor maintenance in the future, but it basically boils down to using an anti-corrosive oil of your choice (I use a firearm oil) and 3M scrubby pads of various grits depending on how aggressive I need to be with rust.
@ismaelguerra94796 жыл бұрын
Top 10 Anime Crossovers
@jooot_68506 жыл бұрын
Ismael Guerra _shut_
@g-dub15536 жыл бұрын
Dude ,you got all the way through the video and looked like a boss...(drops visor) DOH!
@braija8 жыл бұрын
Please please please, make a video where you do this rushed, as if your camp was under attack.
@s0meRand0m1298 жыл бұрын
simple , just wear the mithril and you are good to go
@Algernon76 жыл бұрын
If youre being attacked you probably wouldnt have much time to put on anything before getting killed.
@huynhyurivanvladamir79786 жыл бұрын
a sword and shield ready up is all you need for sudden attack
@Jeremiah905266 жыл бұрын
My Camp is under attack with this as my suit of armor. My reaction, throw on the chainmail and helmet, grab sword, go. As long as you can pick up a shield, you are protected against 90+% of what the enemy is going to throw at you and you are combat effective in a very short timeframe (less than 1 minute) so you can actually break the enemy's initiative. Attacking while minimally armored but while the attack is still fresh is better for breaking an attack than holding off for 9 minutes while the men around you are beaten back and you end up well armored, but surrounded and alone.
@TheStraightestWhitest6 жыл бұрын
Jeremiah90526 Well said. Still it must work a bit on your confidence, knowing you can take just about any attack that isn't blunt/full force with relative ease must be pretty nice, whereas having to worry about every stray slice can be heart-wrenching I imagine.
@PWCTran9 жыл бұрын
Fuck a suit, a man looks best in a suit of armor!
@oddluck41807 жыл бұрын
Dominick Tran Still a suit.
@arcadeangel8126 жыл бұрын
Dominick Tran and really sexy. Specially with the helmet on.
@patanjalilemonsquashimmortal6 жыл бұрын
Only if I could afford one...
@oberstul19418 жыл бұрын
The Metatron sent me! Excellent channel, mate!
@KnyghtErrant8 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you're enjoying it!
@arekpetrosian49658 жыл бұрын
Same here. And great vid, bro. Good work.
@0fficer478 жыл бұрын
Same! That is too cool man!
@kaylew1088 жыл бұрын
Me too. Good stuff
@xinfinity85328 жыл бұрын
lol Mindhouse warehouse said it takes 1 hour to put on and take off armour
@DALILOMODIY8 жыл бұрын
ironman makes more sense now! very cool! btw Metatron sent me :)
@danielthompson62079 жыл бұрын
I've been excitedly waiting for this video, as you already know, thanks for making it! I can see why you would choose to put the leg pieces on yourself, to me it seems like it would be more efficient that way since your legs are more easily accessed by your own arms than if someone were to have to move around you to get to everything. As a side note, that is a beautiful table you have there
@BlakeStackman4 жыл бұрын
Mine takes 15 to 20 mins sometimes, but that is because my armour is not fitted properly to me and the people who assist me sometimes aren't familiar with my armour. But it is getting faster the more times we do it and always making adjustments to make it fit better to me. Your amour looks amazing and looks very well fitted. Very impressive! Thank you for this video.
@benetesilva8 жыл бұрын
>tmw i will never have a faithful, dedicated wife put armor on me why even live...
@ahoosifoou42118 жыл бұрын
the struggles for men today who have no armor
@MrSottho8 жыл бұрын
You'll never have one unless you attempt to retake the holy land in glorious crussade. #deusvult
@Cetoke7 жыл бұрын
DEUS VULT!
@orlando96666 жыл бұрын
Benete Silva why is your name like that
@theusher28935 жыл бұрын
@Wet Stoffels DEUS VULT INFINITY
@luxordeathbed9 жыл бұрын
Good vid. Took the cake when the visor fell down. Almost Monty Pythonish. Educational.
@limonbattery3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video - also cool to see you comment on it all these years later just to give extra info. The timing was admittedly a little faster than I expected, but to me it's certainly a good demonstration of some limitations of this plate harness outside a battlefield scenario. In a typical fantasy (or at least historical fiction) adventuring setting, 9.5 minutes is a lot of time if you don't have a good idea when or if you might run into trouble, and of course since you need help with certain parts of the armor it'll likely take longer in practice. Even 3.5 can be noticeable if you want to switch gear on the fly, and that's not accounting for time actually putting on the new stuff. Overall, it'd be cool if games could do a better job factoring this in.
@theaussiebogan96807 жыл бұрын
I am always impressed by your harness. Its a really beautiful piece
@KnyghtErrant7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@theaussiebogan96807 жыл бұрын
Knyght Errant hered a fun little thing: I had seen that picture of you in armor (the thumbnail one) a fair number of times on various sites, using it to show what a Knight would look like. I was quite surprised when I found your channel and saw it. How much did it cost? I would love to have a suit like that. One day!
@RamBam30008 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, knyghterrant. Very enlightening and clears up something I'd always wondered about.
@jared9259 жыл бұрын
That was a lot faster than I thought it would be. I've always heard in the area of fifteen to twenty minutes.
@Tariei9 жыл бұрын
+Vesrox Much faster to take off than I thought. I would love to see a whole series on gearing up into XII-XVII armour. Dropping your gear is interesting too. I never even thought of that but I assumed it would take about the same time. On the other hand when you put something on you need to be more careful to make sure it "sits right". But I wore boots and chest rig that are much easier to put on than take off.
@jared9259 жыл бұрын
That'd be pretty great. I would personally love to see a video of someone getting into a 16th century harness.
@higgins18129 жыл бұрын
+Vesrox Add in the donning of the gambeson, lendenier, hose, shoes, etc, and you're right in the ballpark.
@wendygoerl91628 жыл бұрын
Like he says, it depends on the specific variant of armor you're talking about, and how familiar your assistant(s) are with armoring you.
@jeremyrainman8 жыл бұрын
Well, they weren't using a breastplate stretcher, so it was faster.
@kingofhere16628 жыл бұрын
Um... You messed up. I heard it was supposed to take you an hour to put all that armor on. Get it right next time! :D
@andersgjersoe48528 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's what I was told too....and they all wore it 24/7!
@KnyghtErrant8 жыл бұрын
Haha... yes, next time I'll also put lice and fleas in my beard and stop brushing my teeth for 3 months :)
@stephencrompton43525 жыл бұрын
@Tronix r/whoooosh
@TheInternetHobo1235 жыл бұрын
@Tronix kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWbLkGmcl9uKfKs Watch this video, then you'll get the joke.
@oolooo4 жыл бұрын
The milisecond you turn your back , I thought "He has no backplate , bad set of armour" .Inmediately , a recomended balloon appears and is a video about Backplates . You read my mind , Ian .You are a treasure .
@KnyghtErrant4 жыл бұрын
Haha, turns out a lot of people had the same thought :)
@HaNsWiDjAjA9 жыл бұрын
I guess in an emergency situation you could just put on the haubergeon, grab the helmet and gauntlets, and would still be pretty well protected!
@207tex9 жыл бұрын
scholagladiatoria sent me here, new favourite channel
@KnyghtErrant9 жыл бұрын
+207tex Thanks! Welcome to the channel!
@Sotyx16 жыл бұрын
My estimate was around 15 minutes. I like the fact that getting all armoured up like that takes even less time
@boredphysicist Жыл бұрын
The look of just the legs on with the arming garments is so cool lol, definitely gives a cool half ready look
@BastardOfUnknownOrigins8 жыл бұрын
you can see the food and lice in his beard already.
@KnyghtErrant8 жыл бұрын
I also stopped brushing my teeth and bathing 1 year before making this video so it would be more 'authentic' :)
@tapioperala30108 жыл бұрын
+Knyght Errant Hope you had some sort of shelter outside, because I really don't think you were kept indoors. :P
@user-xd5zi3kt4s6 жыл бұрын
Tristan Roosevelt Ireland stupid
@gustavfrye27364 жыл бұрын
@@firstnamett4656 yeah, they're making these jokes because they came here from "Debunking "10 Terrifying facts about medieval nights"" video from Metatron
@joekurtz65878 жыл бұрын
This may seem like an unnecessary question but could plate armour protect you while fighting a bear? Could it stand a bear punch to the helm and keep the user alive?
@bluephoenix2228 жыл бұрын
+Paul Alvarez In some circumstances if it's a young bear yes, but in most cases I would say no. A bear punching you is like getting a huge rock thrown at your face by a catapult, even plate armour won't help you there. It would help against his claws and some of the bites however but against blunt attacks steel plate and mail aren't very useful, thus the invention of the mace and warhammer.
@joekurtz65878 жыл бұрын
bluephoenix222 i see , welp guess i do have to take a gun in wood walks
@SpaceMarine1138 жыл бұрын
+Paul Alvarez bear hit is like a blunt weapon, only a lot stronger. Armour doesnt save you from breaking neck or a concussion, or internal bleeding.
@Avandol8 жыл бұрын
+Paul Alvarez Actually, since he does wear the arming doublet and the chain mail he's got a lot of padding going for him and yes, it would considerably lessen the impact of a bear paw hit. Maces and warhammers always target weak spots, the actual plate was pretty much impervious to most attacks. And will be to a hit by a bear paw. Additionally, a bear uses its claws and teeth and these wouldnt even scratch a plate armor (Ceratin < Steel). Overall, I'd say a full plate would save you from a bear if you are armed and able to defend. With the back exposed that would significantly reduce your chance to go unharmed. Also, the legs are only half protected. Without a weapon to drive the bear off you're gonna lose it, and fast. Armor or no armor. Wearing my own full gothic harness (Maximillian style) I hardly notice blows, but I wouldnt go up against a full blown grizzly bear. A black bear, maybe. I'd survive the experience, of that I am pretty sure. All of that is highly hypothetical though, since animal rights people use armor piercing rounds ;)
@7dayspking8 жыл бұрын
+bluephoenix222 You don't...know what the fuck you're talking about. Sorry for being so rude but wow, this unfortunate HEMA misconception is frustrating. Rigid armour is far superior protection to blunt force trauma than most Soft body armours...the vast majority of the energy from any *reasonable* impact will spread over the body of the armour...the only exception being in you're LYING ON THE GROUND with the weight bearing down on you. As for maces and warhammer...these are legal (in full weight.) in a variety of modern _full contact_ fighting competitions....unsurprisingly one mandatory safety requirement because of this is the inclusion of plate armour (padding is not sufficient, mail and padding is not sufficient...PLATE ARMOUR is required.).. I'm not saying these weapons are useless, blows from a mace and warhammer often disorient and hurt combatants, fractures sometimes occur and on some occasions people are knocked unconscious...however this seems to be just as likely to happen when on of the combatants turns themselves into a projectile and launches themselves shoulder first into their opponent...than a strike from one of the blunt instruments (despite the latter being significantly more common.) You're also greatly exaggerating a bear's swipe...neither a Lion nor a Tiger actually swipe with near as much energy as a *human* strikes with their hands (surprising, I know.) I'd imagine a bear would strike significantly harder than the two aforementioned but I don't imagine it'd be too far out of the realms of human striking force (which still can be deadly.) Plate armour would likely protect you from swipes...but would not protect you from the bear...bearing it's weight down onto...or would it magically allow you to lift the bear (if you push up against it or it drops it's weight down on you while you attempt to hold yourself up...expect a damaged neck, spine or both...) Going after bears in anything but a vehicle is a silly idea in the first place.
@corey84203 жыл бұрын
Love these kinda visual videos, you do a good job explaining things, but normally have a difficult time flowing explanations without visual examples.
@Psiberzerker7 жыл бұрын
Nice polax! I
@Psiberzerker7 жыл бұрын
Because it's exceedingly difficult to cut through Armor. Basically what it's designed for, protecting you from cuts. However, in battle you could expect to run into varying levels of armor on the battlefield. So, it was aadvantageous to be armed for everything from a fully armored Knight to a Levee (Conscripted militiaman) with a spear, and hooplande.
@thiagodunadan9 жыл бұрын
First of all, awesome video again, man! You never cease to amaze me. Nine minutes is very quick for a pre-planned action. But, in the case of an emergency, do you think they could have had a different modus operandi for putting on only some parts of the armor, to speed up the process? In your opinion, wich parts would you put on if you had to prepare really fast?
@portkapul12839 жыл бұрын
+Thiago Monteiro probably just the mail shirt, it protects the most for a single piece and most of other parts of armor are only supplements to the mail
@KnyghtErrant9 жыл бұрын
+Port Kapul If I was in camp, expecting a surprise attack, I would strip down to my leg harness and possibly leave the mail shirt on. In an immediate situation I can throw on helmet and gauntlets, and if I have any advanced warning at all, I think I could get into the breastplate and arms quick enough from that point.
@anastasia-esterkapchits29789 жыл бұрын
+Knyght Errant And a traveling knight, say, what protection would he wear? He can't be with the full armor all day long, I guess.
@HaNsWiDjAjA9 жыл бұрын
+Anastasia-Ester Kapchits I dont see why not. Modern infantrymen often carried more weight on their backpacks than what a full suit of plate armour would amount to. Also modern NBC suits are pretty damn stifling, and yet soldiers wore them all day long even in scorching heat of the Middle East or the humid jungles of the tropics.
@anastasia-esterkapchits29789 жыл бұрын
+John Huang I agree, the armor is not heavier than the weight that the modern soldier carrier (about 20 kg, I suppose?), but it is not just the weight. It is also how this weight spread. The armor puts significant weight on the legs, it means that every step you make demands much more effort. The armor also puts some pressure on the chest, meaning you can not breathe freely, which makes you tired much faster. Also it is much less comfortable. You can not even scratch yourself while in armor. That's wright, it may happen that a modern soldier stays in his protection gear all day long, but it will generally happen when his mission doesn't require physical effort, static post, for example. In a foot patrol a soldier is likely to wear no protection except helmet and carry much smaller weight. And finally, a problem that modern soldier does not have, this antic armor should be protected from dump and rain, otherwise putting it back in order demands significant work.
@Dithyrambos-h5e9 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian. These are some great videos. I had actually figured on more like 20 minutes so, yeah, way faster than I thought. I've got two questions for you. First, how much would a suit of armor have cost to buy back in ye olden days? I understand that this is a ridiculously vague question, but if you walked into an armorer's stall in a Random City in Hypotheticallandia, how much could you expect to spend? Contemporary currencies are fine; knights obviously weren't buying their kit with USD. Second, and you can blame your kettle hat stand for this one, how useful do you think feudal-style armor and armament would be in a zombie apocalypse? Hope you get a chance to answer this. Cheers.
@KnyghtErrant9 жыл бұрын
+Matt L One day I will time how long it takes to lace up my arming doublet, I suspect it adds a couple minutes to the overall time :) Price is very variable. A lot of things like basic helmets or breastplates may have been mass-manufactured for issue to infantry. While a full functional harness for a man-at-arms could still cost more money than most people could afford, the prices of armor in period can get quite obscene mostly because of the level of finish and decoration. We take polish for granted now, but in period you paid out the nose for highly polished armor. Toby Capwell made a nice comparison... say you buy a really nice high-end harness, well-polished today for a total cost of $20,000.00 About $3,000-$5,000 of that cost is what it took to get your armor to a nice shine. So the functional armor itself was about 75%+ of the total cost. In period if a highly polished armor cost $20,000.00, the first $5,000.00 would have gotten you the absolutely functional harness. The other $15K was spent polishing it. Now as far as the magnitude of cost of a nice harness in period, it is said that the very fine gothic harness of Archduke Sigismund of Tyrol in modern equivalent, cost $3.5 Million to make with another $650,000 worth of gold.(media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/96/08/b1/9608b19e29d7720d2cf363156f469aa1.jpg). A far less wealthy man-at-arms could probably expect a similar magnitude purchase of financing a house in modern terms to get an affordable harness for themselves. Armor would be great for not getting bitten by zombies, but no way could you wear armor all day every day. So unless you lived in a fortified area and only needed to wear harness to go 'out the wire' so to speak, it's probably not all that practical :)
@vonschlesien6 жыл бұрын
Latecomer here! Question: what would be a ballpark figure for the time it takes if you're really rushing? There are examples of tactical surprise being used to catch an opposing force out of armor, and I'm curious about the timing involved in those examples.
@Dragonfly09876 жыл бұрын
Monty Python moment at 3:15. just found yer site mate; appreciate ya. Edit: just saw i've been pre-empted by 24 months.
@lafleched9 ай бұрын
It’s good to see you can get a full harness without any arming points on the gambeson. Figuring out how many arming points to get and where all those laces go has been a real sticking point for me, but it looks like most of the armor you have is self supporting or links up directly with the other plates.
@kurtoogle45766 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I was always curious about this. Also - looks great!
@300warrior3009 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much fro this. Really interesting.
@بێزۆرگتێربۊرگێر9 жыл бұрын
Ian you must have a decent job to be able to purchase a full suit of plate don't you? What did your whole harness cost you? Also interesting video as always, I'm always more happy than for most other youtube channels I am subscribed to when I see a new video from you :)
@makeris329 жыл бұрын
+Al-Malik Al-Ashraf Khalil I think he is or was a pilot in his country's army.
@WilliamMerzlak9 жыл бұрын
There are websites like Cult of Athena that sell from multiple blacksmiths and companies. depending on the quality of the metal and craftsmanship. Something like this would run in the realm of $1800.00 to $2400.00. Grade of steel is important. 12 gauge stainless steel will undoubtedly cost significantly more. this looks like it's SCA quality with a matte finish. A mirrored finish will cost extra on parts. This is probably 16 Gauge Hardened Steel so expect around $2000.00. Custom fit, Etched 12g stainless parts with a complete 15th centure style (including backplate and gorget) with brass hardware and hand forged buckles can run in the $15,000.00 dollar range.
@KnyghtErrant9 жыл бұрын
+Al-Malik Al-Ashraf Khalil Hah... I wish this only cost in the $2,000 range :) (That's about what a helmet costs). Custom 1050 spring steel, hardened and tempered, and fit by a bespoke armorer is a bit more than that. I had to purchase this armor over the period of several years. I just don't like discussing how much everything I own costs because it usually leads to very incorrect speculation. I would never recommend getting stainless steel for any component if historical accuracy is a priority. The gauge of the steel varies wildly depending on the individual components.
@KevinMoon1489 жыл бұрын
I'd follow you into battle any day sir! Middle ages or out to sea!
@KnyghtErrant9 жыл бұрын
+Kevin Moon Shouldn't you be a chief by now? ;) Good to see you on here!
@KevinMoon1489 жыл бұрын
About to go up for my second look in 2016. Awesome to see how fully committed you are to this, some impressive stuff
@BlackLegion126216 жыл бұрын
This was very satisfying to watch.
@dandavis52949 жыл бұрын
I love this so very much. Great video.
@tiffsaver4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for posting this video!! I always wanted to see the entire process done. Btw, I have two questions for you: 1) What is your vision like when under the visor?? It seems to me that this might be the single most negative aspect of wearing a helmet. 2) What about the heat underneath all this stuff during the warmth of summer?? How do you deal with it, and how would Medieval knights handle it as well?
@KnyghtErrant4 жыл бұрын
Hi, glad you enjoyed the video! 1. Vision is better than most people imagine, but it's not fantastic. On my particular helmet there are two individual vision slits, but you don't see them separately. Since our vision is binocular, your brain takes the information from both eyes and the interruption in the middle disappears pretty well unless you intentionally cross your eyes and focus inside the helmet. That said, I can still only see directly in front of me, and in an arc of about 90* as opposed to the normal 180+ degree vision we normally have. I cannot see much above me, and I get limited vision through the 'mouth' of the visor to see the ground and get a sense of obstacles below me. (visual demonstration here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIq7pmuCfMmXjbc) 2. When it's particularly hot out, wearing armor compounds the problem a lot. The main offender is the helmet. You take it off when you don't need it, and when you do need it, you keep the visor open or removed as much as possible unless you need it at that moment to defend yourself. We do have at least one account of knights in the Middle East choosing to switch out their fully enclosed helms for more open style helmets that didn't obstruct their faces to they could breathe better in the heat. Staying hydrated is also incredibly important. Medieval people would have understood and done the same, but the logistics of it all are unclear.
@tiffsaver4 жыл бұрын
@@KnyghtErrant Thanks for getting back so soon. So many YT podcasters don't even bother to get back, so kudos to you. I imagined as such. I think the Roman gladiators faced the identical challenges when wearing a helmet... having to choose between sacrificing head protection for a clearer view of your opponent. Whenever I've seen pictures of knights, however, I've never seen them wearing a canteen! Today, they'd have titanium armor, air conditioning, and Gatorade:)
@panpiper4 жыл бұрын
It used to take me about ten minutes, at a leisurely pace. My arms and legs were each a single set of half plate held with straps. The whole of my chest, shoulders and waist was protected by a clamshell breastplate. That I would lower over my head, then do up the retention straps on the sides. Pauldrons and such were already affixed to the breastplate. A Gorget I then added, and both strapped closed and strapped to the breastplate so a thrust to the throat would not cause blunt trauma. I wore no sabatons. I needed no help to don my armor.
@wizardeddas7 жыл бұрын
I like that D&D has the time to don heavy armor pretty close to what it took you.
@lebarosky8 жыл бұрын
Well, dude, you look as close to the effigy of the Black Prince as anyone I've ever seen in RL. Well done!
@KnyghtErrant8 жыл бұрын
+lebarosky Thanks. I appreciate it! Still plenty of improvements to be made, but I'll tackle them as I can :)
@NoahWeisbrod9 жыл бұрын
For a mail shirt, I've found it takes linger to take off than put on
@drizzt7dourden79 жыл бұрын
+Noah Weisbrod that depends on your "style?" of putting it on and of. the easiest way i found was to go in a "praying" position (aka neeling down and lowering your torso) and then raising your hindparts ^^ this way the shirt will just glide of (might need a bit of help with the head so it doesnt get stuck) yes it looks a bit silly but its the fastest most compfy way i tryed ^^
@xxAntiOtakuxx8 жыл бұрын
+King Dormak the chromosome expelling forniphile, your mail might be too small then. It should fit almost like a proper fitted t-shirt, loose but not baggy.
@DaaaahWhoosh7 жыл бұрын
3:45 I can definitely understand the development (or over-development) of the codpiece now.
@judofry9 жыл бұрын
3:46 Now you are all set to go to the grocery store... In all seriousness, awesome video, really fascinating to see how the armor is actually put on :)
@KnyghtErrant9 жыл бұрын
+judofry Thank you! I'm sure I'd get some interesting looks! I will do a video in the future that explains this process in much more detail, but I didn't want to screw up the timing aspect.
@SharkByteOfficial8 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Drake was a knight
@americancheese91036 жыл бұрын
🅱👏👏
@Zenia6665 жыл бұрын
Drake would never be a knight. He would cry because the armor is "too heavy"
@wanadeena9 жыл бұрын
You're lacking a backplate. Did most people wear backplates back then?
@KnyghtErrant9 жыл бұрын
+wanadeena I think I talk about it somewhere else in one of my other videos, but the short answer is my harness needed to be documentable to both the late 14th and early 15th centuries. The late 14th century has no definitive evidence for solid backplates, but solid breastplates with faulds and *no* backplate is shown in late 14th century artwork and backed up by extant pieces. I intend to get a full cuirass at some point in the future, but it would only be worn for depicting early 15th century.
@wanadeena9 жыл бұрын
Knyght Errant Would it be anachronistic for a 14th century suit to have a backplate?
@KnyghtErrant9 жыл бұрын
+wanadeena Back defense in the 14th century shows up as either wrapper plates (like on Churburg #13) or small overlapping plates on like Coats of Plates and Corrazinas. Solid backplates would be speculative for the 14th century until more evidence is found.
@KnyghtErrant9 жыл бұрын
Mail or textile *is* back protection.
@Alopex19 жыл бұрын
+Knyght Errant Nice, you know the Churburg :-) I hail from Bolzano, which is very close to there. Truly an amazing collection of stuff!
@dphitch9 жыл бұрын
Great Video. I'm very curious about mobility and actually fighting with the armor on, what would that be like? How is range of motion, flexibility affected and of course stamina. Also, how would the load of armor and arms compare to a modern combat load.
@KnyghtErrant9 жыл бұрын
+SouthernComfort a lot of this will be addressed in future videos so please stay tuned, but the short answer is a lot better than most people assume.
@brokenursa99868 жыл бұрын
I couldn't help but notice that, while your greaves and cuisses came in separate pieces, your pauldrons and vambraces were linked together and were put on as one piece. Is that something unique to your harness, or was that common on other sets of armor as well?
@KnyghtErrant8 жыл бұрын
It is a design feature specific to English style armors of the late 14th into the 15th centuries. If you're interested, here's more on the arms specifically: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5qni2ZrlL6gaaM
@GeneralGiffel2 жыл бұрын
I always think about the exposed leather. What would happen if something cut it off, wouldnt the armour just hang/fall off?
@m.s.793 жыл бұрын
Ever thought of looking again at this topic with new cuirass and fauld? I want to know how all the new straps on your back add to the process.
@KnyghtErrant3 жыл бұрын
Yes. I am patiently waiting for a new helmet to be finished, and when I have that I hope to be able to do a 1415 version of this video (hopefully in a more period setting as well).
@DoomWalker422 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. The armour looks super cool. Though I was just wondering why the chestplate had no covering around the back because wouldn't that leave you vunerable to attack from behind though I guess you have chainmail.
@bb-bc3zw5 жыл бұрын
"HONEY?! WHERE IS MY ARMOURED SUIT?!"
@Cahirable9 жыл бұрын
How long do you think you could fight in your armour? I'm seen figures as low as two minutes, but I just can't picture that being realistic, given the length of some battles during the mid-late 14th century and into the 15th century.
@hku999 жыл бұрын
Cooler than I thought , good stuff
@2sollen3076 жыл бұрын
It is much faster than I thought. Good imformation.
@Trader_Spero7 жыл бұрын
3:15 Loved the helmet fail XD
@Dowlphin Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to put everything on (and/or off) by yourself?
@MrEvanfriend8 жыл бұрын
You mention that lacing up mail chausses would take more time, but wouldn't that be offset by not having all of those plate components to deal with?
@KnyghtErrant8 жыл бұрын
When I say lacing up mail chausses I'm referring to the type of open-backed mail chausses that require you lace the entire back of the leg and foot closed to conform it to the leg. They can be very time consuming to don.
@MrEvanfriend8 жыл бұрын
Knyght Errant I imagine this is one of those tasks that you have a buddy or your squire do for you?
@AlexanderWernerJr8 жыл бұрын
Excellent videos, I'm a great fan of your work! I was wondering about one thing: Can you actually put the entire armour on by yourself if you need to, regardless of how much time it would take? Or is it simply impossible to put on e.g. the breast plate and the arm protection without someone helping you?
@KnyghtErrant8 жыл бұрын
Hi, and thank you! So this answer is very specific to my armor and my armor only. It's not going to apply to other configurations. For the breastplate, I could pre-strap the shoulder straps and try to wriggle into it, but there's no way I could do the waist strap. While it would physically be 'on' it would be compromised because the waist strap is supposed to be tight to bare the load and keep it in place. To do so means it needs to be really tight. The arms would be impossible to point at the shoulders. I could probably get the straps done with a lot of frustration, but there's no way I can get the shoulder points done. That means it will inevitably shift out of place. So, you can physically get some of those things on your body, but I still wouldn't call that 'being able to put it on by myself,' because too many components would be a seriously compromised or completely nonfunctional position.
@AlexanderWernerJr8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the immediate reply! I was asking because I used to own a landsknecht-era-style back- and breastplate which could be put on without help, as the back plate had a belt attached which reach around to the front plate and could be fastened at the front to keep both plates in place at the waist; I'm not sure about its historical accuracy though. Do you happen to know if your configuration tended to be the norm in medieval times or was it completely depending on the individual armour designer, regardless which era is being looked at?
@fullarmourguy6 жыл бұрын
Hello, really like all your videos ! Please tell me where I can find the same chain mail as yours, wearing in this video.
@urbanmyths959 жыл бұрын
i noticed you mention chausses yeah they take a while to put like my reeactment soceity has an arming of the knight bit and we have the knight put on the chausses beforehand but the rest of the kite including the gambe takes like a minute or two
@benwright34308 жыл бұрын
Love this medieval armour channel great video! Just a question how long would it take to put on the back plate...
@KnyghtErrant8 жыл бұрын
This configuration of armor is too early for a solid backplate. For a slightly later armor, with a backplate, if _nothing else changed_ in the configuration, you might see a minute increase in time. Soon I will make a similar video with a slightly different style of torso armor that will answer this question more concretely.
@VRichardsn8 жыл бұрын
Do you happen to own a Gothic plate, or have some plans of acquiring one in the future?
@ryand63128 жыл бұрын
so is there nothing to protect the backs of your legs because if there isn't I would consider that a major weakpoint where you could easily get crippled in a fight
@KnyghtErrant8 жыл бұрын
The vast majority of cuisses (thigh plates) are not full wrap. This is because in a lot of cases the back and inside of the leg is protected by the flanks of your horse. On foot, it's not quite as big a vulnerability as it may first appear by virtue of the way battles were fought. It's not like in the movies where when two lines meet they completely mix together and people pair off in this chaotic mess. Instead lines are maintained, and formations are held together, so unless you're in the back row, the only people behind you are your friends, waiting to relieve you when necessary. If someone's behind you, it means your formation is broken or you're routing and then you have bigger problems to worry about. That being said, certain armors were optimized for fighting on foot and include full wrap cuisses. In fact, my personal cuisses have since been modified to include that feature since it was common amongst English armors of that time.
@bellator118 жыл бұрын
Didn't they usually wear a back plate as well? Seems to be the case when looking at old paintings and reliefs.
@KnyghtErrant8 жыл бұрын
+bellator11 There's really no evidence for solid one-piece backplates prior to the early 15th century, but there's plenty of evidence for solid breastplates being worn in the configuration with just mail protecting the back like I show in this video. Prior to the 15th century, rigid back defense usually came in the form of a coat of plates or brigandine (small overlapping plates riveted to a foundation garment), or small 'saloon door' hinged plates that might wrap a little bit around the back. So for late 14th century, what you see here is ok, but as we move into the 15th century, you would start to see the beginning of larger rigid backplates paired with a breastplate to form an early plate cuirass.
@bellator118 жыл бұрын
Knyght Errant Many thanks for the reply Knyght! I guess what I've seen are those coat of plates you mention. In the 14th century them also seem to have often worn cloth over their armour, making it imposssible to see the exact details of the armour beneath.
@MrManifolder9 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very informative. Now how much time would it take for a knyght to visit the john? (No footage necessary.)
@KnyghtErrant9 жыл бұрын
+MrManifolder Ha... well, some things you want to think about before you put your armor on if you can help it. But in all seriousness, going pee is pretty easy in my harness, everything is accessible. Doing anything more than that would require removing armor, but if you think about it, in war, you're just going to do what you have to do in your armor.
@MrManifolder9 жыл бұрын
Haha I guess they don't call war hell for nothing... Even for the nose.
@kamhyde407 жыл бұрын
This may be a strange ? but the groin seemed a little vulnerable? Would there have been groin protection beyond what the the mail skirt provides?
@KnyghtErrant7 жыл бұрын
Here's a video dedicated to that subject if you'd like: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4awl51-drOFjNk
@hahaureadmyname3 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiousity, how secure would the armor be if a velcro "sheet" was attached to the front of the armor and it attached in the back like plastic knee pads/elbow pads? I.e. medieval plating with modern plastics/harnessing
@calt21613 жыл бұрын
Why put on the mail mantle if your bascinet has an aventail? It seems like it doesn't offer any additional protection as it only sticks up above the cuirass an inch or so, but may limit neck mobility. Seems like more cons than pros.
@KnyghtErrant3 жыл бұрын
A smooth breastplate can sometimes act as a ramp up and under the aventail, which surprisingly happens a lot in modern practice. Throat injuries, being one of the most potentially fatal are a priority to prevent and the actual mobility cost of wearing a mail collar isn't particularly bad. Documentary and iconographical evidence also suggests that mail collars were pretty ubiquitous, so it seems our historical counterparts believed the trade-offs to be worth it in most cases. Even after mail aventails are replaced by plate collars on great bascinets, the mail collar was still used in conjunction with it as an essential piece of kit. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6OpqHxqmqubnJI
@calt21613 жыл бұрын
@@KnyghtErrant that makes sense. Thank you!
@mordiveer59578 жыл бұрын
this was really surprising and interesting! i always assumed it would take a lot longer.
@KnyghtErrant8 жыл бұрын
+Colin Bremner It's important to not come away from this thinking these times apply to all armors though. Armors of different time periods, and even the wide variety of contemporary armors in a given time period can introduce a lot of variation in the time required to put it on and take it off.
@mordiveer59578 жыл бұрын
Knyght Errant i will keep that in mind. The video however was still very helpful in putting into perspective the time it would have taken in a historical context, its easy to forget it was a practical set of equipment that i imagine wouldn't be as viable if it took ages to suit up. my imagination lacked context before this video so you have my thanks for that!
@fernandojorgesantamaria32832 жыл бұрын
Interesante.Unos 10 minutos para ponerse la parte metálica de la armadura.Pero ¿cuanto tiempo lleva ponerse la parte acolchada,sin la cual no puede uno llevar dicha armadura?
@zamoutague1997 жыл бұрын
Super cool! I'm looking to assemble my own kit, and I was wondering what sort of padding you have on your legs. Do you wear quilted chausses? Or just extra hose?
@KnyghtErrant7 жыл бұрын
No padding necessary under a well fitted leg harness. Just good hose, potentially with sewn in behind-the-knee mail voiders if you want more coverage.
@fabledreamor6 жыл бұрын
It took me about 10 seconds to put armor on Henry in Kingdom Come Deliverance.
@dannenoob9 жыл бұрын
You easily have the most handsome armor I have ever seen.
@brizabatsombre82808 жыл бұрын
Could you show us how to put together pauldron, vambrace and couder from separated pieces instead of one single articulated arm please? How are they laced up together?
@KnyghtErrant8 жыл бұрын
I don't have a complete floating arm harness to show you.
@brizabatsombre82808 жыл бұрын
Ah ok, my son is slowly building his armor set and it's one part we are boggled about a bit. Thank you for answering though!
@MrHusang234 жыл бұрын
3:46 - "Good evening. I'd like to talk about armor today."
@Sfourtytwo9 жыл бұрын
9 minutes is a hell of a lot of time if your camp is being overrun. So you get out of bed and hear swordfighting, what do you put on and how long does it take?
@Tyrhor9 жыл бұрын
+Shikami42 Usually arming doublet and helmet. You can do it on the run. (there was an mentioning of thi in one of the chronicles I had read, however I don!t remember in which... :-/)
@dynamicworlds19 жыл бұрын
For this particular set of armor, I'd probably abbreviate it to mail, helm, and gauntlets. As much as I'd want the other things, those are very quick to put on, and don't require tying or help, and would be pretty good protection (other than not having leg armor, but with how long those take even with full light and how the thighs need something he put on before the video, they really aren't something you have time for...though grabbing a shield wouldn't be a bad idea if you get the chance) As for time, it's about a minute I'd guess, but maybe less.
@KLRGOFFIRE9 жыл бұрын
+Shikami42 Matt Easton from Scholargladiatoria had mentioned that there was one campaign in the hundred years war where the army feared to get attacked at any moment. The man at arms had to sleep in their armour for 2 or 3 days ... But in my opinion that was more of an exception because for ambushing a big army you need a big army yourself and it's very unlikely that they won't get spotted early enough. But if it happened in any kind of situation (I remember a D&D-Session where it happens xD) I would go with DynamicWorlds assumptions.
@Tullio2389 жыл бұрын
+KLRGOFFIRE As I recall, that was the English army on the Agincourt campaign, on the march from Harfleur to Calais.
@KLRGOFFIRE9 жыл бұрын
Tullio238 Thanks, I didn't remember it excactly and wasn't sure where he mentioned it.
@martinvasilevki92816 жыл бұрын
One word BEAUTIFUL
@sildowww7 жыл бұрын
Aren't the armpits a bit exposed on this set? Shouldn't there be some plate to overlap there? Sorry if someone already asked this question somewhere else. I haven't watched all your videos (yet).
@KnyghtErrant7 жыл бұрын
The armpits are one of the targets prescribed in armored fighting treatises to aim for. Before the advent of full pauldron style shoulder defense, it was pretty normal for them only to be protected by mail, or simply by hanging besagues (round or oblong discs of steel) in the gap.
@sildowww7 жыл бұрын
Wow that was a fast response. Thank you very much. I saw your "Putting the Middle Ages in Perspective" video today, and from what I understand from that and what you said here, the armpits were not protected by full pauldron till 1400+? Up to that point it was mainly mail like your set? Also very informative channel. I love it. I'm in the process of watching all the vids you've made every change I get. Currently half-way. You should totally put up your patreon link under your videos. I'm interested in donating and I'm sure there's more people like me.
@KnyghtErrant7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm glad you're enjoying the videos! Yes, the full large style pauldrons appear in the first quarter of the 15th century, mostly in Italy, and then spread out from there. They aren't universal though, as we see slimmer spaulders more similar to what I'm wearing, stick around for the entirety of the 15th century as well. It's the ever present trade-off between protection vs mobility. Yeah, I'm not very good at self-promotion :)
@sildowww7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another reply. That is pretty much what I wanted to know. I see you've put your patreon link in the description and I'm just pledged you a small donation already. But I feel like I'm gonna do another one soon. I think you deserve more views and subscribers man. Your videos are very high quality and really focused on conveying information. I discovered your channel my a mention from Skallagrim or Shadiversity if I remember correctly and you really should do some more collabs like you did with Metatron and armor comparison with the samurai armor. Even if it's just rambling on livestream about nerdy/larp/medieval topics. People will check you out and stay, just like I did. Anyway this post is long enough, thank you again and I wish you the very best of luck on your ventures.
@sildowww7 жыл бұрын
Just watched "Vulnerabilities Don't Render Armor Useless". Should have watched that before asking this question :)
@ParanoeX6 жыл бұрын
i actually underestimated how long it would take.. everyone always says that it takes a year and a half to put on an armor but i thought they were overestimating it.. (well.. of course if someone would've said one and a half year..) but.. people usually say it takes a half an hour to a whole hour.. i thought i'd be 5 minutes.. but i didn't think how many straps there are and how difficult they are to tighten.. but this is just one example and things might differ, as you said in the video.. but i dont see there being much more or much less pieces to put on and the straps are never going to be as easy as velcro.. though, why not make a modern day knight armor with velcro :D
@HotSauce1v18 жыл бұрын
At what areas of the body do you feel the weight of the full kit? Are the words "harness" and "armor" used differently, and when do you use "harness" in a sentence? What is a harness in this context?
@KnyghtErrant8 жыл бұрын
'Harness' refers to the complete armor. Many of my other videos cover exactly how the weight of armor is distributed (I recommend the first half of this one for that information specifically: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHelYZqledZmbrM) or how much each component weighs, but in general a good portion of the weight is supported on the hips and waist. It's designed with proper load bearing in mind. If all the weight hung from the shoulders it would be too fatiguing.
@Kouchigari929 жыл бұрын
Maybe somebody asked before, but i'm very intrested in, that your groin has the defence only what the mail shirt gives to it. Isn't that vulnerable this way (i'm thinking of mace/spear attacks) ? Did they have more groin protection usually? Sorry for my bad english, i learned german in the school.
@KLRGOFFIRE9 жыл бұрын
+Kouchigari92 Some of the early renaissance armours had very accented codpiece like one armour of Henry VIII. Google Image Search. Henry VIII Codpiece.
@KnyghtErrant9 жыл бұрын
+Kouchigari92 Yes, in my case only the mail shirt is protecting the groin. It is a target for sure. That being said, it's not that easy to hit when you're moving around and as a competent fighter you would ensure that you don't present your vulnerabilities (like the groin, armpits, backs of the knees etc) to your opponent. Contemporary to my time period, there are some other ways to protect the groin. Some surviving mail shirts had a flap of mail that could be drawn from the back, between the legs, and fasten to the front. In the 15th century, faulds (the hoops attached to the bottom of the breastplate) would sometimes extend low enough to protect at least some angles to the groin. You also have mid 15th century mail breeches or brayettes, which are essentially a diaper of mail. But when you think about it, virtually all movement of your lower body requires complete freedom of your groin, so it's very hard to armor it effectively while still be able to fight like you need to. I believe many fighters would back me up if I said that they felt more defended if they could move properly in a fight than if they had plate groin defense which hindered their movement.
@Kouchigari929 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind and specific answer, it was very helpful. And also thank you for creating these videos, they are very interesting!
@simonburling37627 жыл бұрын
Hi, Do you think that you could sleep in the arming garments? If not how much time would be added to put them on, except the shoes.
@KnyghtErrant7 жыл бұрын
They're definitely comfortable enough to sleep in. They're not any less comfortable than normal medieval clothes. If you didn't have them on though, and you were literally just in underwear, it might take you another 5 minutes or so to get the hose on and lace up the doublet if you weren't rushing.
@Dermeister0093 жыл бұрын
Why don't you have a Caparison? I think is called.. the clothe with heraldry that goes over the chest. Was that still a thing in those years? or were knights opting for more of a "shiny" armor look of the later centuries?
@KnyghtErrant3 жыл бұрын
A caparison is the cloth covering for a horse :) The equivalent for a person is a jupon, coat armor or surcoat. I actually just finished making one for my most current c.1415 armor - facebook.com/KnyghtErrant/photos/5831827423559260
@Dermeister0093 жыл бұрын
@@KnyghtErrant Yes Surcoat is the word I was looking for :). and COOL! :) I think that's my fave from those periods.. the bright colors and peacocking with thereat helm feathers etc. It was probably mostly tournament armor that i'm thinking of but still love the early transitional armors where they still do the whole mail but they start to add some plate components. Wich I think is well represented by your FB pic you linked in your comment on the knight next to you. it appears that he has some extra plate protection. I love that look! where it's still mail but supplemented by plate! thanks for sharing!
@mangalores-x_x9 жыл бұрын
is it correct to have no back plate? Maybe it became only essential against musket fire but I thought you would want a front and back plate interlocking with each other so a lance or musket ball strike would actually transfer its energy around the person inside the armor instead of onto it.
@mangalores-x_x9 жыл бұрын
Knyght Errant Just checked your Great Bascinet video so possible that the necessity for this kind of backplate might be connected to the increased power of a lance impact or even later to redirect the shock of a gunpowder weapon and before would be just considered added weight. But thx for the reply! Your videos go into great detail on the what, when and why.
@KnyghtErrant9 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't necessarily draw that conclusion. They were definitely concerned with rigid protection for the back prior to the 15th century, it just took forms other than a solid backplate. Even the solid breastplate was relatively new in the late 14th century, the backplate just lagged behind a little bit. Smaller plates for the back were pretty comon. Omitting a backplate entirely was just a valid historical alternative that I chose to go with to demonstrate something other than a coat of plates.
@mangalores-x_x9 жыл бұрын
Knyght Errant Yes, I specifically meant the idea of the back and front plate being locked into each other to create a kind of cage around the wearer. As I take it that idea was even later, maybe actually more beyond your described time frame. I'll have to check up on that..
@EtioDesign3 жыл бұрын
Amazing Armor🔥
@mrredeef9 жыл бұрын
Nice, very informative, and holy cow, I just realized your whole back is unprotected. Did the english really do that if they'd already gotten to this point of completion in their armor set? I could see how it would make the suit alot more comfortable though.
@KnyghtErrant9 жыл бұрын
+mrredeef Don't forget, mail is protection. As far as not wearing a backplate, my armor needs to be passable for pre-1400 as well (my Living History club also does 1380s) and there is no definitive evidence for full rigid backplates in the 14th century. Rigid back defense in the 14th century comes in the form of coats of plates, or wrapper plates on things like Churburg #13 etc. Solid 14th century breastplates, if they did not include wrapper plates, are depicted like mine, with criss-crossing straps in the back, worn over a full mail shirt like this example (lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ZiqTESZvICI/UnoJRZUz68I/AAAAAAAABQ4/IrbvT-UXz4c/w1633-h1225-no/IMG_7032.JPG). If I get a full cuirass with a solid backplate, it would only be suitable for early 15th century and beyond.
@danielnoland83199 жыл бұрын
Do you ever participate in any sort of armoured combat events? I'd be interested to see some videos of you in action!
@KnyghtErrant9 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Noland I personally don't currently (rehabbing a shoulder injury) but many of the people I do Living History with fight in similar harness all the time.
@mr313376 жыл бұрын
Great video. How long does it take for your wizard to memorise a fireball spell?
@randomanonymousperson75828 жыл бұрын
+knyght errant don't you have a backplate or something? Isn't it also a part of a knight's equipment?
@KnyghtErrant8 жыл бұрын
There's really no evidence for solid one-piece backplates prior to the early 15th century, but there's plenty of evidence for solid breastplates being worn in the configuration with just mail protecting the back like I show in this video. Prior to the 15th century, rigid back defense usually came in the form of a coat of plates or brigandine (small overlapping plates riveted to a foundation garment), or small 'saloon door' hinged plates that might wrap a little bit around the back. So for late 14th century, what you see here is ok, but as we move into the 15th century, you would start to see the beginning of larger rigid backplates paired with a breastplate to form an early plate cuirass.
@benj66705 жыл бұрын
Do you normally not wear chausses (maille or padded) with the plate protection for your legs? If so, would it be normal for Knights of the period (late 14th/early 15th century) to also not wear additional leg protection? I'd of thought the chausses would provide needed protection for the backs of your legs?
@KnyghtErrant5 жыл бұрын
There is no evidence for wearing padding underneath leg harness, it's not really necessary. For the inside and back of the legs, most leg harness is intended to be worn on horseback, so the flanks of the horse are protecting those areas. On leg harness intended for foot combat, we do sometimes see evidence of mail voiders, small patches of mail attached to the underlying hose, that fill in the gaps where the inside of the joint might be exposed and vulnerable, but this is not a universal.
@benj66705 жыл бұрын
@@KnyghtErrant Gotcha, thanks for the response.
@DCFHazardRebornChannel4 жыл бұрын
"We are under attaaaaack!" "Wait good sir, I am putting my armour on, huzza!"
@Orkel26 жыл бұрын
How much would that padded shirt under the armor protect against a basic warhammer strike to the chest plate?
@KnyghtErrant6 жыл бұрын
If struck in the center of the breastplate, and the breastplate is of high quality, it should be extremely good protection. The padding under plate armor is very minimal. The force mitigation is really the responsibility of the plate armor itself. I know who people who wear virtually no padding under their plate armor and can absorb the full force of solid lance strikes with steel coronels with little negative impact. Many of the same individuals fight with steel pollaxes as well. The idea of heavy padding _under_ plate armor is more an artifact of modern sport combat. The heavy padding historically was worn on its own, or sometimes over mail.
@ericcastillo40268 жыл бұрын
do you have a full plate armor? it would be cool to see one been actually use, btw very nice plate mail, for a full plate you only need the back pices for torso and legs to have the full set since you have pretty much everything else
@KnyghtErrant8 жыл бұрын
For the 1380s, this is about as 'full plate' as it came. Backplates like you're thinking of weren't truly developed until the earlier parts of the 15th century. Back defenses existed on alternative torso protection like a coat of plates, but not a true single piece backplate. The back of the legs are also not commonly protected by plate (since you would presumably have a horse there). The overwhelming majority of surviving cuisses (protection for the upper legs) do not fully wrap around the thigh. Mine have actually been modified to do so now (not as of filming this video) but that was more a peculiarity of English armors because of their penchant for fighting dismounted. I have recently commissioned a full cuirass (breast and back) but it will push my kit into the beginning of the 15th century.
@ericcastillo40268 жыл бұрын
that is awesome, and am sorry for talking out of my ass, i didn't know the time period of the armor, but any way it is so good to see people actually do this kind of videos, it very interesting, I too am in to fantasy settings, I use to play D&D and play mmorpg's mostly, I do know a little about the period but my focus is more on the tactics side of war, specially siege, the tactics use to defend and to attack fortifications, most people now a days see wars as sanitize affairs and don't give much thought to what really goes on in the battle field, sorry rambling, as I said really nice armor set, thx for the reply much appreciated.
@KnyghtErrant8 жыл бұрын
It's no problem at all. Thank you for your interest. I'm always happy to answer questions about this stuff, and I love to learn from my viewers as well. My interest in fantasy (novels, mmo's, d&d etc) is what really got me interested in the historical stuff to begin with.
@thesmokingtoad28366 жыл бұрын
Hello! I'm doing a research paper on medieval armor, and I was wondering if I could reference your video!
@KnyghtErrant6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! It's not a scholarly source by any means, but you're free to cite it. :)
@thesmokingtoad28366 жыл бұрын
@@KnyghtErrant Awesome! Thank you :)
@wergar_the_warwolf68347 жыл бұрын
cool armor, cool video. just wondering where the backplate is. I mean, chain mail is good but plate is better
@KnyghtErrant7 жыл бұрын
This harness is ca. 1390 when it would be very normal to not have a backplate. Solid one-piece backplates were not common until the early 15th century. Other types of back defense existed but it's a very common configuration to just wear a breastplate. Mail was considered adequate protection at the time. You have to consider that most combats would be formations of troops, so the back is not normally exposed. In fact, many regional styles would continue to omit a backplate well into the 15th century. For more on backplate development: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZqUfo2eerFgY7c Also, my newest videos will show you my ca. 1415 cuirass which has plate back defense if you want to know more about the early 15th century designs.