How Lust Ruins Love | Amir Sulaiman and Hamza Yusuf

Acclaimed poet Amir Sulaiman speaks with Renovatio editor-in-chief Hamza Yusuf on lust, love, and the gulf between the two.
Is love blind? 11:05
Loneliness, lust, shame, and one night stands 13:31
Qur'an on protecting people from themselves 20:00
How society views religious chastity 22:12
Chivalry and toxic masculinity 27:30
Sex and creativity 43:00
Pornography and its effects on the heart 46:00
Fornication in the Bible and Hadith 50:05
Amir Sulaiman on the ethos of his poetry 53:50
Love's paradox 54:50
Falling in love versus falling into lust 1:04:15
Amir Sulaiman reads "of beauty & breaking" 1:05:10
THE SEVEN DEADLY SINS, A SPECIAL RENOVATIO SERIES HOSTED BY HAMZA YUSUF
Hamza Yusuf converses with scholars, leaders, and writers to explore one of religion's most enduring conceptual frameworks, the Seven Deadly Sins. These compelling conversations shed light on how the sins manifest themselves within us, illustrate their devastating consequences on our culture, and elucidate their corresponding virtues for all of us who struggle with sin.
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[@TanerTech]

They make a really interesting point about how the more sexualized a culture becomes the less great works of art and culture they produce. I wonder if they can expand upon that theme.

[@TurkishGrandpa]

I really want to meet the great Hamza Yusuf before I die

[@tum8017]

May Allah سبحانه وتعالى preserve Shaykh Hamza Yusuf. He has been serving Muslims for many decades.

[@SlaveKing1444]

Alhamdullilah. Sheikh Hamza is phenomenal. He quotes poems of Dylan and Shakespear in front of a poet. What a beautiful series I am enjoying. May God bless you eternally with all the grace and mercy worthy of you! Ameen.

[@truesay786]

Amir Suliman is a genuine Lyrical genius… well underrated

[@MPM_News]

Wow. The way Amir riffed on thankfulness , appreciation and love was so profound. Need a few months to think

[@turiguliano416]

Shakespeare Sonnet 129: The expense of spirit in a waste of shame Is lust in action; and till action, lust Is perjured, murderous, bloody, full of blame, Savage, extreme, rude, cruel, not to trust, Enjoy’d no sooner but despised straight, Past reason hunted, and no sooner had Past reason hated, as a swallow’d bait On purpose laid to make the taker mad; Mad in pursuit and in possession so; Had, having, and in quest to have, extreme; A bliss in proof, and proved, a very woe; Before, a joy proposed; behind, a dream. All this the world well knows; yet none knows well To shun the heaven that leads men to this hell.

[@atkahalqudcy1710]

I believe in love. And when you truly love someone he/she is enough for you.

[@ThaWorlda]

Allah is the most worthy for this

[@umairidrees7291]

OH MY DAYS! These two coming together created fireworks! May Allah bless these two giants! Mountains!

[@irfandidjailani700]

Wow.. Alhamdulillah. I am the first to give comments. Assalamualaikum syaikh hamza Yusuf. I am Indonesian student in Taiwan. Thank you for all your talk. Please make doa for me to have barakah live 🙏😊

[@sufipathoflove]

One of the greatest contemporary poets. Allahu Akbar! JazakAllah khair for this 🙏

[@nabilabou9078]

What to say just BARAKA ALLAH fikom for sharing this series

[@RenovatioJournal]

Alhamdulilah. Please do share with others.

[@thethe7339]

🌎🙏💧💖🥺 LOVE IS SECRET AND RESPECTFUL 💧💖🥺🙏🌎

[@ikramdjaoud3673]

That was a wonderful discussion! Allah bless you both!

[@neveenmanna2484]

Mashallah! I’m in utter awe and can’t stop my tears, tears of joy 🙏🤍

[@mohammadbinmahbub9160]

Almost cried at Amir's poem

[@o2xb]

MashaAllah, an incredibly pertinent topic that must be addressed more often.

[@dumplingsoup4914]

JazakAllah. Great conversation. Great minds. Great production.

[@ywaja]

Very beautiful discussion there's so many points one could touch on further but at the same time its very saddening how desire (in lust - not just sexually but in so many other facets) overtakes one, quite easily I might add, with deception, and in the end leaves one empty and alone, if one were even lucky enough to realise that indeed one is discontent in this trivial pursuit. The other point for me is that, religion is not a means just for trying to attain heaven or please God or please The Prophet, (SAW) or avoid punishment and hell, but rather I believe its a means to live this life the way God had intended for us, a means of guiding us towards the best life, a life of happiness and contentment, for nobody else but for Oneself. May Allah forgive me for both my ignorance and arrogance.

[@Sarfarazkhan-kv9cq]

Always insightful, thank you for sharing such good work, Allah bless you and whole ummah and guide them to learn more about classic Deen.

[@kaykay9280]

Beautiful!! Truly poetic spiritual truths. Alhamdulilahi rabbil Alameen!

[@zekuli1]

Thank you for this! MashaAllah!!

[@khairt1731]

Selam Alaykum. Can I ask the Renovatio editors what camera they are using? You're editing techniques are top notch! MashaAllah

[@Mrbikecrazie]

Am glad 😊 to be here 🤩

[@ourlegacy8894]

Please share the transcript of this in the next issue of Renovatio.!

[@septusberrouet9041]

There's no.fear in love.

[@muhammadabdulmohsin5300]

Love you sheikh from Kashmir.

[@irfanahmed6411]

Dear brothers Allah bless you you are doing great work on this planet and we love you so

[@Cricketeditswithlove]

SubhanAllah🌼

[@mm-wm3jd]

Hamza Yusuf & Jordan Peterson, humanity is waiting for your discussion to happen? 🙏🙏🙏

[@AhAh-mh3lo]

it won't happen again ...... to be honnest. People who have let the last discussion between them was a mistake because it create a bridge that is not needed.

[@kopotakko1985]

Hurmah & Muhsanah/Muhsanat ==== The protected/ safeguarded one/ones

[@kopotakko1985]

Abu Umamah reported: A young man came to the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, and he said, “O Messenger of Allah, give me permission to commit adultery.” The people turned to rebuke him, saying, “Quiet! Quiet!” The Prophet said, “Come here.” The young man came close and he told him to sit down. The Prophet said, “Would you like that for your mother?” The man said, “No, by Allah, may I be sacrificed for you.” The Prophet said, “Neither would people like it for their mothers. Would you like that for your daughter?” The man said, “No, by Allah, may I be sacrificed for you.” The Prophet said, “Neither would people like it for their daughters. Would you like that for your sister?” The man said, “No, by Allah, may I be sacrificed for you.” The Prophet said, “Neither would people like it for their sisters. Would you like that for your aunts?” The man said, “No, by Allah, may I be sacrificed for you.” The Prophet said, “Neither would people like it for their aunts.” Then, the Prophet placed his hand on him and he said, “O Allah, forgive his sins, purify his heart, and guard his chastity.” After that, the young man never again inclined to anything sinful. In another narration, the Prophet said to him, “Then hate what Allah has hated, and love for your brother what you love for yourself.” Source: Musnad Aḥmad 21708 Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Arna’ut عَنْ أَبِي أُمَامَةَ قَالَ إِنَّ فَتًى شَابًّا أَتَى النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَقَالَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ ائْذَنْ لِي بِالزِّنَا فَأَقْبَلَ الْقَوْمُ عَلَيْهِ فَزَجَرُوهُ قَالُوا مَهْ مَهْ فَقَالَ ادْنُهْ فَدَنَا مِنْهُ قَرِيبًا قَالَ فَجَلَسَ قَالَ أَتُحِبُّهُ لِأُمِّكَ قَالَ لَا وَاللَّهِ جَعَلَنِي اللَّهُ فِدَاءَكَ قَالَ وَلَا النَّاسُ يُحِبُّونَهُ لِأُمَّهَاتِهِمْ قَالَ أَفَتُحِبُّهُ لِابْنَتِكَ قَالَ لَا وَاللَّهِ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ جَعَلَنِي اللَّهُ فِدَاءَكَ قَالَ وَلَا النَّاسُ يُحِبُّونَهُ لِبَنَاتِهِمْ قَالَ أَفَتُحِبُّهُ لِأُخْتِكَ قَالَ لَا وَاللَّهِ جَعَلَنِي اللَّهُ فِدَاءَكَ قَالَ وَلَا النَّاسُ يُحِبُّونَهُ لِأَخَوَاتِهِمْ قَالَ أَفَتُحِبُّهُ لِعَمَّتِكَ قَالَ لَا وَاللَّهِ جَعَلَنِي اللَّهُ فِدَاءَكَ قَالَ وَلَا النَّاسُ يُحِبُّونَهُ لِعَمَّاتِهِمْ قَالَ أَفَتُحِبُّهُ لِخَالَتِكَ قَالَ لَا وَاللَّهِ جَعَلَنِي اللَّهُ فِدَاءَكَ قَالَ وَلَا النَّاسُ يُحِبُّونَهُ لِخَالَاتِهِمْ فَوَضَعَ يَدَهُ عَلَيْهِ وَقَالَ اللَّهُمَّ اغْفِرْ ذَنْبَهُ وَطَهِّرْ قَلْبَهُ وَحَصِّنْ فَرْجَهُ فَلَمْ يَكُنْ بَعْدُ ذَلِكَ الْفَتَى يَلْتَفِتُ إِلَى شَيْءٍ وفي رواية أخرى فَقَالَ لَهُ فَاكْرَهْ مَا كَرِهَ اللَّهُ وَأَحِبَّ لأَخِيكَ مَا تُحِبُّ لِنَفْسِكَ 21708 مسند أحمد باقي مسند الأنصار

[@khairt1731]

44:00 there's a whole culture based on this loss of creativity due to loss of semen it's called NoFap. NoFap is abstaining from self pleasure and retaining their own "energy" and not releasing it without a purpose. There's also a tradition in the Tao culture called "Semen Retention", which is different from NoFap in where you "release" after 10 day or 2-3 weeks depending on the age. I'm pretty sure Budhhist monks have it this tradition too. Edit: NoFap was a solution to the pRon problem. Minds were getting destroyed by pron and some guys on reddit suggested NoFap and that's how it got started.

[@naradaian]

I dont think you know anything at all judging by your ‘opinions’ of what monks (bhuddist or otherwise) do. What a wally

[@MuhammadUsman-rm1po]

1st to coment here in the soulful philosophers deep debate... 🤫 shhh, just listen..

[@ribeirojorge5064]

❤️💚💜

[@craigdelaney4242]

Lust is two demons competing for overlordship, having already established control over the individuals concerned

[@lifemaverick6427]

Islam provides no theological basis or argument against lust and certainly not through the example of Mahomet. To use the Qur'an, sunnah, or hadith to speak out against lust, is similar to using Sun Tzu's 'Art of War' to speak against war.

[@ahha1201]

Do all of the sins have daughters? Why are they feminine and not the sons of sin?

[@ufh2101]

Because they produce other sins. Virtues have daughters too.

[@AC-mp7cx]

why are ships feminine?