Wrath's Consuming Power | Chris Hedges and Hamza Yusuf

Award winning journalist Chris Hedges speaks with Renovatio editor-in-chief Hamza Yusuf on the deadly sin of wrath and the underlying dark forces of American society today.
THE SEVEN DEADLY SINS, A SPECIAL RENOVATIO SERIES HOSTED BY HAMZA YUSUF
Hamza Yusuf converses with scholars, leaders, and writers to explore one of religion's most enduring conceptual frameworks, the Seven Deadly Sins. These compelling conversations shed light on how the sins manifest themselves within us, illustrate their devastating consequences on our culture, and elucidate their corresponding virtues for all of us who struggle with sin.
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[@TennesseeJed]

I think Hedges will be acclaimed in the future as one of the most important voices ever. If we as a species has a future.

[@donnagaffney6467]

Agree 💯

[@wasimjasin5485]

Have*

[@guhlobtrekker]

Absolutely... brilliance in his ability to communicate about the horrors and take on what almost nobody else will talk about truthfully, then draw hope in it still.

[@halalnews]

Chris Hedges is one of my favorite authors currently alive. May Allah reward them both!

[@abdulrahmanraheem423]

Yes he is definitely one of my favorite. He has a very deep insight and I'm disappointed that I have not bought All of his books.

[@Lyra0966]

Never encountered Hamza Yusuf before but have long been an admirer of Hedges. Really enjoyed this conversation between two highly knowlegeable, wise and compassionate scholars. This kind of content should be compulsory listening for all politicians. Though, on second thought, I doubt many of them would understand any of it.

[@truesay786]

Love Chris Hedges he truly has the tools for explaining the deepest of insights of human nature.

[@ovaismir6618]

Great Conversation. Nuanced and compassionate just like true Islam is.

[@RenovatioJournal]

Thank you for listening.

[@Sokka909]

I would love to see Dr Cornel West on this pod cast.

[@jocosus3]

17:02 "What is a fool but someone who doesn't know who they are or where they're going." - Hamza Yusuf This profoundly resonated with me. Thank you for posting this discussion.

[@dorian7215]

That statement really resonated with me as well. I was that person he spoke of; particularly as a child, but it manifests in different ways. This will certainly forever change my view of anger.

[@johnwilliams3745]

Chris Hedges is my absolute favorite author. His writing, though bleak, gives me hope.

[@abeliever6823]

Chris Hedges is a treasure of our era. May Allah bless him with success in this life and in the hereafter. May Allah guide him to Islam. And sheikh Hamza is a beacon of light. May Allah bless him with a long, healthier life full of baraka

[@ObakuZenCenter]

Hedges is Christian minister. Do not be intolerant and respect his choice of path. Be better than this.

[@katben1625]

This is such an insightful conversation. I love the part where Chris Hedges mentions how jobs in the modern age can hinder self actualization and that leads to anger and self loathing. Especially bc your job is such a massive part of your identity. Stands in contrast to those living in poorer countries who seemingly don’t have much from a materialistic perspective but also aren’t consistently compromising internal values (via corp jobs) to live.

[@stevenkaminsky5817]

A beautiful, intelligent, & insightful conversation on the human condition. Well worth the listen!

[@carddash.]

Chris Hedges is great! I love his political analysis on American politics and foreign policy.

[@salmaabdullahielmi6182]

Ma sha Allah the Shaykh looks healthy and happy. Thank you Zaytuna for this. God give the Shaykh a long life and the college success ❤

[@RenovatioJournal]

We're glad you enjoyed it.

[@kp6215]

Pastor Hedges has always refreshed my soul !

[@rangerk9]

Needed. Moving. Powerful. Healing. Loving. Deep appreciations for this discussion. Our country and the world will benefit greatly from listening to the wisdoms shared in this.

[@earlgrey3660]

God bless you both for this conversation.

[@brianwheeldon4643]

Thank you for providing the bridge, the language to express ourselves. Almost all in society have never been exposed to this, and the inability to express our wrath and rage is easily turned by insidious forces to the wrong ends. If you're working two or three jobs, or if you have no job and a family to keep, how do you find the time and stable calm mental state to read, discuss, develop and make any sense of the self and of events that are all pervasive in the modern world?

[@emmetlcraig8114]

Hello from Ireland ,thanks to Chris ,Hamsa and all involved in this production...glad you shared it with/for us whom care to listen and try to act upon it.

[@spamemail6598]

30:10 to 31:55 blew me away. It summed up so well my own thoughts and made me reflect and cry.

[@dee5331]

Agreed! Mind blowing!

[@moriyokiri3229]

This is a fantastic discussion between two very thoughtful men. Thank you so much for sharing.

[@imbrudedsoul]

Chris, I am incredibly envious of your knowledge and am privileged to receive it!

[@favvids3779]

An amazing discussion. Thank you for this. Two of my favorite intellectuals!

[@Rawdiswar]

I had the privilege of seeing Mr. Hedges speak in person a few years ago.

[@gking407]

Hedges on the cult of the self is gold

[@jjgrenwich264]

Incredible conversation!

[@ahmedomar9034]

Thank you for this great conversation. A fan of both Sheik Hamza, and Chris Hedges. I hope we can have further discussions between them in the near future.

[@erikred8217]

Without You Chris we would be lost. I'm sorry they were they way they were to you over trump and hilary. you are thanked, you are appreciated.

[@iMuFiF8]

what an amazing conversation to learn from. Thank you to the both of you

[@johndoe4073]

Absolutely incredible! Thank you both.

[@yumeriagirl1231]

Chris Hedges is the U.S.'s best! Watching Chris Hedges w/ Cornel West is Brilliant!! Chris doesn't believe in magic, just that the ancient literature (holy books) offer goodness as well as vileness

[@lilmory1000]

Wow amazing discussion! Filled with so much insight, wisdom and intelligence! Food for the soul.

[@williambentley2802]

Hedges so right about humans need for psychological/ hunger for structure. Prayer is important.

[@michaelangel533]

What an Amazing conversation, you guys couldn't have said it any better and the whole world needs to hear this in order for it to correct its behavior..

[@ebaamomani1221]

Excellent video quality. Well done, director 🌸 What inspirational talk! Thank you.

[@JohnLoty]

Great meaningful, enlightening discussion on the cause and solution to our number one problem...ourselves and the illusions we are fed and/or create.

[@sarahbyrne8501]

Feels good to hear a serious and beautiful conversation. Is it normal to find myself agreeing with Hamsa each time he says, pbuh. ? I’m repeating it with him. ! Telling Chris to preach when he makes a good point- or gives a favourite read of mine a shout out. Making an atheist fall back to old habits. Nice tho..

[@nunyabizness8246]

What a power house chris is. He's the best we got.

[@HybridHalfie]

This lecture made this atheist feel the spiritual love. This is example of really philosophical rooted religious discourse I admire.

[@stevejagger8602]

Thank you there is such richness in your conversation. There is an emptiness in the lives of so many in the western culture because they have lost or never gained that spiritual well which you discussed. In that light I had often wondered how the people of Gaza endured their life of control and oppression by the occupier. Now I understand. ,♥️

[@patriciagriffin1505]

Our society in America will not survive if we don’t listen to these valuable thoughts that are the only answer America has to proceed in a society that holds life at its heart!

[@kermitfrog593]

Great talk. Two of my favorite intellectuals.

[@theresacroghan6]

Chris Hedges sees better than most philosophy professors I had in college.

[@morpho4846]

Hamza Yusuf employs a profound and beautiful conversational toolkit, he almost appears to be flexing his politeness and a tendency to relate everything to a parable or passage from his faith.

[@plainjane2305]

What a wonderful conversation. Hope to see more of you two conversing together!

[@wanchattheeranaew9893]

Great conversation. Thank you.

[@donny_doyle]

I am a convict, out for 15 years, I teach in a prison also, and it is a very polite society. Chris is right on... their social system works, for what ever reasons. I still have the eye twitch...

[@maxheadrom3088]

This is like the Krauss/Herzog interview - never thought Herzog was such a giant just like I never thought Hedges was such a giant before watching the interviews. I knew Herzog was a giant filmmaker and Hedges a giant journalist - but now I know they are giants! Giant human beings!

[@uncleshamus3451]

Thank you ✌️

[@yumeriagirl1231]

Reading all of the worlds, so called "Holy Books", has been my hobby I've the past few years. Letting go of magical thinking and being able to read them as ancient literature, changed everything!

[@hermenutic]

Thank you. It was spiritually refreshing to listen to these two men. Thank you.

[@positivethinking659]

Ma shaa Allah Hamza yosuf with Chris Hedges a well known politician . Bless you both .

[@annmowatt7547]

A wonderful discussion and a real delight to listen to 2 such well - informed, intelligent and deeply compassionate men. This should be compulsory viewing for us all to keep us, as Chris says, "on the right road."

[@glengrant3884]

SHINE BRIGHT GUYS!!💥👍LOVE FROM AUSTRALIA!!💚💛🧡👊🙌

[@Fatima.114]

We need the security and care these people have for humanity and Allah give you much felicity on the day oppressors are overwhelmed by their oppression. May we never oppress ourselves or others. Ameen

[@zakzak613]

Salam great video, I'm a new English Muslim from the UK, when is Shaykh Hamza Yusuf going to have a discussion with Jordan Peterson, I'm sure those 2 would become great friends! Jordan peterson was friends with Roger Scruton who was friends with Shaykh Hamza! Please try to make it happen, many people in the UK are asking for that dialogue!

[@naftalibendavid]

This is so amazing!

[@mzeewakazi]

Contentment is peace for the soul

[@NoPrivateProperty]

nobody deserves to be wealthy in a society of injustice

[@Jjjkluejnek]

The sheikh has an amazing office. May Allah bless him, Ameen.

[@friskedmooo9369]

Very interesting conversation!

[@SSSS-xj7qg]

It would a good idea if you split these great conversations into chapters using the new feature in KZbin.

[@DoseofTruth]

That new feature rocks

[@MrDannyHeim]

i find this to be a very needed conversation and wish everyone in the wold could see it

[@khaldunia]

Amazingly useful!

[@elviajove8289]

Fascinating talk. Love Chris Hedges!

[@nickjohnson3619]

I think conversations like these are important because people, especially the educated type that fancies themselves "rational," tend to dismiss the works of theologians as being just brainwashing non-sense, and that's not true at all. Many great thinkers have developed their ideas through the prism of religion. Yes, even in the catholic church!

[@lenuvian]

Good talk. Really enjoyed that.

[@hussainlorca3274]

AssalamuAlaykum I really hope Sheikh Hamza Yussuf and Jordan Peterson meet each other and share in a platform like this.

[@johnhackett6332]

Loved it.

[@chriscavaliere9405]

We have today in these violent movies and video games that kids are subjected to a horrendously creative magnification of the violent cartoons of yesterday like Bugs Bunny and The Roadrunner.

[@spelunkenphilosoph8415]

Nice . Thank you both

[@mrcounterpack]

No way!! This is awesome!

[@BorisAmar]

Seneca's "On Anger" is a must. If we were taught this 70-some page work in middle school, we could wipe out anger at its root.

[@Halalaumai]

جزاك اللهُ خيراً‎🌷

[@uradragon]

Thank you.

[@justsaying444]

Just an amazing discussion. 👏

[@mkatharinadewes2272]

its a war of quantities against quality

[@johnstewart7025]

People could probably live with stagnant economy, standard of living --- but not as atomized individuals. The trade-off was supposed to be alienation in exchange for a better life for the kids.

[@danielwalsh9137]

Hedges and Peterson should talk. I personally think Hedges is 100x more insightful and deserves just as much recognition.

[@himkay3211]

43:44 prayer gave them structure, I was perfectly safe This is why prayer is the pillar of Islam.

[@hjander]

wonderful discussion

[@Kamran.Qureshi]

It is always a pleasure to listen to these talks. They are so enlightening. Keep it up Zaytuna!

[@kirstinstrand6292]

Self understanding and self acceptance also allows one to draw from one's own Spiritual Well.

[@adrenalline8250]

wao... my two favorites together....

[@christinesmith1499]

Such wise men. Jung called our evil side our Shadow. Richard Rohr and Thomas Keating have good teachings on spirituality to overcome our ego and connect to the Creator, which is helpful for daily life in these crazy times.

[@charlottemarceau8062]

Great conversation (AND you shot a laptop conversation well !)

[@RenovatioJournal]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@36cmbr]

two guys who realize right is right and so is wrong.🙊

[@beefandbarley]

People are being rewarded for their aggression and narcissism.

[@mikemartian6217]

Read the Upanishads … thank you

[@marwar819]

While Muslims hear public prayer 5 times a day, Americans need to hear Hedges over same 5 times a day.

[@jeremyreagan9085]

I agree with him on his theology. Though I am not a follower of John Calvin I follow Peter Chelickicky the writer of the net of faith.

[@brudamo9203]

I think that violent video games may not cause you to be violent to others, but if you disrespect others' lives, you may disregard your own.

[@theexplorers4182]

MashaAllah

[@kp6215]

Put your cheek upon the earth was magnificent ❤️

[@geoffreynhill2833]

There's a little tribute to Bob Dylan near the end. Thanks, Hamza!

[@hana.xplorz_GB]

I wish to study under such men I’m from the Uk

[@MrDannyHeim]

redemption is one thing, restitution is another

[@andreschang8526]

Do we need religion or do we just need to do what Iceland and Scandinavia, very secular places, do which is to take care of our material needs? Not wants, needs.

[@Daljirka-Dahsoon]

Why not both?

[@uraharasshop3547]

Masha allah

[@obsoleteelite8258]

I’m blown away by this. Chris explains Mass Murder Mentality and how it comes to be.

[@patrickholt2270]

All poverty is relative: relative to the prevailing costs of living and material requirements and norms of the society, and relative in class terms, because rich and poor are correlative terms. To say that poor people have no reason to be angry because they aren't all that poor is a very privileged position, and it ignores the class relationship of exploitation and market transaction redistribution of income which produces poverty, and the snobbery and police and cultural discrimination which follows. It also ignores 56 consecutive decades of stagnant real wages under the neoliberal regime of austerity policies, market liberalisation and destruction of union rights. And of course the huge losses of freedom that results from inability to pay, debt and financial desperation in a capitalist economy, both freedom to and freedom from. A few years ago I got into skinhead punk music (Oi! music by name, with the exclamation mark), and what I learned was that it carries two messages - ugly national and racial pride, and working class pride, with bands tending to divide into one or the other. Which tells me that adolescent boys get into this subculture because they need encouragement and support in world full of humiliations due to their family's class condition and low income. In cultures where working class pride used to be fostered by the organised labour movement and socialist politics giving a place of high honour and political responsibility to the working class, now almost no-one tells that to working class kids, except the skinheads. The discrimination begins at school and with how better-off people look at them in the street and avoid talking to them or acknowledging them as they pass, and everything in popular culture venerates the middle class and wealthy as more cultured, more intelligent, more attractive and so on. Only the skinheads are telling young working class boys that they have power, and they do matter, and are worth something, and not in spite of their class background, but because of it. So there is reason for anger among poor people, because they are victims of injustice, structurally and personally, with the ultimate violence which is routinely ignored being the infliction of poverty in the first place.

[@benjaminselassie]

I don't think Chris is as myopic as the other guy. Granted he is going along with the video game canard ect. But he also hit on something the other guy breezed by to make the case for religion. Saying religion is the panacea is ridiculous really considering the murder, rape, exploitation, violence ect. Ask Gladwell and humanity is far better off than in the time of the good old days. It's a human condition that seems to be reduced by whatever relative prosperity humans create for themselves. That is purpose, voice and a desire to overcome adversity which is work. I think Chris was coming back around to this throughout the conversation.