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@ChessVibesOfficial
@ChessVibesOfficial Жыл бұрын
🎙I apologize for the poor audio quality! I'll be working on fixing this ASAP!
@sammarks9146
@sammarks9146 Жыл бұрын
It sounds like you're yelling. Not doing that might help.
@soulgamer9108
@soulgamer9108 Жыл бұрын
Its alright you already analyzed thousands of his games what more could we want
@presterjack9764
@presterjack9764 Жыл бұрын
@@sammarks9146 He's not yelling, it sounds like clipping or compression
@robertstewart239
@robertstewart239 Жыл бұрын
My biggest problem with KZbin videos is NOT being able to hear. This one, I had to turn the volume away down. No problem with sound quality. I could hear you perfectly.
@spidysfunvideos4718
@spidysfunvideos4718 Жыл бұрын
Ok
@pho3n1x51
@pho3n1x51 Жыл бұрын
Next: How Magnus responds to checkmate
@yanibensalem5299
@yanibensalem5299 Жыл бұрын
Keaya ? What are you doing here ?
@dylanjackson7809
@dylanjackson7809 Жыл бұрын
The tho
@sendxx
@sendxx Жыл бұрын
"Nice try"
@valeckseimu3132
@valeckseimu3132 Жыл бұрын
He sue you for cheating and u get ban from torney
@first_senpai1473
@first_senpai1473 Жыл бұрын
Shakes hand and moves on in life
@ArutaretiI
@ArutaretiI Жыл бұрын
I now see the difference between Magnus and me. That is, sometimes I ignore the pin as well, but Magnus doesn't lose the queen in the process.
@ChessVibesOfficial
@ChessVibesOfficial Жыл бұрын
😂
@raularnela3654
@raularnela3654 Жыл бұрын
😂😂 that was good
@LordVoid666
@LordVoid666 Жыл бұрын
​@@ChessVibesOfficial u ever wanted to ask Magnus why do u ignore it alot and why did he want to do chess in the first place?
@lucasbortoluzzi9369
@lucasbortoluzzi9369 Жыл бұрын
Actually you got to be sure that your counter attack goes somewhere to allow doubled pawns. Not surprising it is more common at higher elo
@tylerharrington4515
@tylerharrington4515 10 ай бұрын
@@lucasbortoluzzi9369 That's insightful
@LPChip
@LPChip Жыл бұрын
The way I see it, Magnus does not ignore the threat 55% of the times, he just delays his counter by a few moves.
@jaym6945
@jaym6945 Жыл бұрын
The way I see it is that he values a tempo higher than not having doubled pawns
@emilianozamora399
@emilianozamora399 Жыл бұрын
Eventually you will respond to it wether you want to or not
@jackgallagher4146
@jackgallagher4146 Жыл бұрын
in a game where each move should be treated like gold. I think it's fair to class a delay for a few moves as an ignore
@thomaschesscafe
@thomaschesscafe Жыл бұрын
@@jackgallagher4146 Nice perspective
@johnowens22
@johnowens22 Жыл бұрын
He creates a bigger threat for his opponent that the original opponent's pin.
@mikelucarelli9782
@mikelucarelli9782 Жыл бұрын
I think it's tempting to focus on the 55%... but it's also important to note that almost half the time Magnus does react. You have to have the right positioning to ignore the pin. And Magnus is probably much better than most at being in the position to take advantage of ignoring it
@macronerd
@macronerd 8 ай бұрын
That is a terrific (and admittedly easily overlooked perspective). I think @chessvibesofficial did a phenomenal job on the analysis, but when we consider 55% ignores/45% reacts, it does make it seem a little less insightful perhaps? I am a huge proponent of ignoring pins. I think psychologically it takes a little wind out of your opponent’s sails, but you do have to keep an eye on it and be sure to have a development plan.
@prinnydadnope5768
@prinnydadnope5768 Жыл бұрын
A mindset I developped by playing shogi is "if I can't react in a way I'm ok with, I have to attack where it hurts" and it's actually the concept here, focusing on influence and aggro when under pressure.
@WishfulCreation
@WishfulCreation Жыл бұрын
that mindset is definitely applicable in chess too
@flashproductions9148
@flashproductions9148 Жыл бұрын
Sun Tzu the Art Of War
@tacotuttle
@tacotuttle Жыл бұрын
Timestamps: 1:25-2:29 Moved Queen 2:35-4:00 Defended with Knight 4:06-5:15 Defended with Queen 5:40-6:44 Blocked with Bishop 6:50-9:12 Attacked with Flank Pawn 9:30-12:43 Ignored 12:43-13:22 Summary
@user-pu4di1hu3f
@user-pu4di1hu3f Жыл бұрын
thanks :)
@RealElonMusk6969
@RealElonMusk6969 Жыл бұрын
You’re a chad
@diomehiro2
@diomehiro2 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@abhiramholla2221
@abhiramholla2221 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@renesshyt
@renesshyt 11 ай бұрын
a little late but thx mate
@theamazingmetagross1655
@theamazingmetagross1655 Жыл бұрын
Damn Nelson thank you for working so hard on one topic for us which occurs a lot in our regular games
@jackgallagher4146
@jackgallagher4146 Жыл бұрын
i like that idea that you treat a known opponents next move you can't effectively respond to as you have 2 times per turn
@potato_consumer941
@potato_consumer941 7 ай бұрын
“It isn’t a checkmate, it’s just a king sacrifice.”
@Wspre_
@Wspre_ Жыл бұрын
3:29 By moving his Queen there he also pins the knight to the white king, which was previously defending e4
@emmagrove6491
@emmagrove6491 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to post and analyze this! The bishop pin to the knight is the most common early opening... Almost every game I play my opponent does this, and it's my least favorite move. It's more annoying than anything, and I always find a way to un-pin as soon as possible, and then punish them for daring to threaten my king or queen.
@benprescott9217
@benprescott9217 Жыл бұрын
My favourite opening with white is the Blackmar-Deimer Gambit. With black, it's the Dutch Defense.
@danielyuan9862
@danielyuan9862 Жыл бұрын
Isn't the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit black's opening?
@benprescott9217
@benprescott9217 Жыл бұрын
@@danielyuan9862 It's a gambit for white, and the beauty of it is that it can transpose into other openings like the French or Caro-Kann if black doesn't want to accept the gambit.
@f2pkx463
@f2pkx463 Жыл бұрын
Wth is blackmar-deimer gambit All I know is queen pawn/king pawn
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast Жыл бұрын
Either you're a tactical/combinatorial genius, or you lose a lot of games :)
@benprescott9217
@benprescott9217 Жыл бұрын
@@DieFlabbergast It's a bit of both lol
@xpctechnology
@xpctechnology Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the effort that went into video. Very interesting. Cheers
@IDMYM8
@IDMYM8 5 ай бұрын
I too
@michaelsumner-ru9bo
@michaelsumner-ru9bo 2 ай бұрын
Amazing how I play like magnus 55 %of the time yet lose 95% of the time.
@bmakepeacekamen3082
@bmakepeacekamen3082 Жыл бұрын
GREAT video! This is becoming one of my favorite chess channels. People talk about chess style all the time with GMs; that's easy enough to see in a broad sense, but the specifics are not. This kind of statistical breakdown over commonly occuring positions (here, a pinned queen) gives real, teaching insight beyond just characterizing style of play in a word. I wish you success to keep making these specific types of videos. This seems like a ton of work, and it's very instructive. Gonna share this with some friends now. Making a contribution to your channel atm is just too hard for me to do (hopefully soon, I'd love to support this channel) , so sharing is the least -- or most? -- I could do. Either way, thanks again for this great video!
@mitchellverhelle3986
@mitchellverhelle3986 Жыл бұрын
You say he "ignores" it but he eventually Castles out of it, that's why his next two moves after the pin was to make room for the king to castle ASAP
@priestshibe
@priestshibe 11 ай бұрын
can we just appreciate the fact that he had to find 100 games that Magnus was pinned ⁉️
@leandrobaluyotjr5181
@leandrobaluyotjr5181 Жыл бұрын
Excellent focus on the subject about "pin" on the knight! Thank you for your effort in presenting this subject . More success to your endeavors sir!
@thedutchboss8353
@thedutchboss8353 8 ай бұрын
You must have put in many hours in analyzing all those situations, thank you so much for yet another amazing video!
@BasicShapes
@BasicShapes 8 ай бұрын
Magnus truly embodies the saying "The best defense is a good offense"
@yyyyyk
@yyyyyk Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Thank you so much for putting the time to analyze all of these games, NM Nelson!
@OregonMikeH
@OregonMikeH 8 ай бұрын
Thank You, Nelson! Very enlightening, I will be using these examples tomorrow at my Chess Club. Also, wanting you to know that there are so many examples of such diligent work on your part in the sharing of many such excellent examoles. Your Ch. is always greatly appreciated. Have a Grand Day!! ..... Mike.
@tiletapper4ever
@tiletapper4ever Жыл бұрын
3:24 me when I'm trying to form a damn simple phrase in English 😂
@NikeSoccerTennis
@NikeSoccerTennis Жыл бұрын
I love how your videos are straight to the point and you explain clearly.. most chess channels want to give too much of their input, confuse you with a lot of moves the best players dont even do for a reason, and never get to the point! Great content brother
@abhishekgoel2612
@abhishekgoel2612 Жыл бұрын
This channel has to be amongst the top 3 channels on youtube when it comes to learning Chess! Love your work mate..
@Trelmayas21
@Trelmayas21 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting bit of information. Thank you for putting this all together.
@justarandomguyonyoutube9129
@justarandomguyonyoutube9129 Жыл бұрын
Magnus' reaction to that pin:
@screwearbudlooserfriend
@screwearbudlooserfriend Жыл бұрын
Great extensive analysis. Cracked me up when Nelson failed to say "easily"
@userac-xpg
@userac-xpg 9 ай бұрын
thanks for putting in the work on this video. I used to always either immediately break the pin or threaten the bishop. Now I try other things first
@misog-in6oy
@misog-in6oy Жыл бұрын
you really do your research. kudos and love your channel, man! can you maybe also share a vid on openings beyond e4e5?
@ralphzoontjens
@ralphzoontjens Жыл бұрын
So he seems to look for ways to have his defense serve his own attack and otherwise just lets the opponent capture. That's a great lesson!
@midamida915
@midamida915 Жыл бұрын
Such a useful video, great work on the research, this channel is golden
@stoney937
@stoney937 Жыл бұрын
Did you do the data yourself or do you have a team? These are impressive findings
@peeepeeepooopooo
@peeepeeepooopooo Жыл бұрын
its 100 games
@Danso_3000
@Danso_3000 Жыл бұрын
@@peeepeeepooopooo A hundred that had to first be found and selected out of several thousand, where such pins occurred.
@peeepeeepooopooo
@peeepeeepooopooo Жыл бұрын
@@Danso_3000 you can just keep going down the top games list and see if any of them have pins its max gonna take like 2 hours max, and he didnt actually look at thousands of games lmao
@christopherheckman7957
@christopherheckman7957 Жыл бұрын
@@Datscrazi231 He could narrow things down by searching the text (as one big PGN file) for "Bb5", "Bb4", "Bg5" and "Bg4". This wouldn't give you The List, but you can search the text for "Nc6" (if Bb5 has shown up), "Nc3", etc. Of course that STILL isn't the complete process, but you've likely filtered out a lot of games that don't involve pinning. (Disclaimer: I'm not saying this is how Nelson did it, just how you *can* use a computer search to get rid of games where obviously there was no pin.)
@justadepressedguywithnobi
@justadepressedguywithnobi Жыл бұрын
Him and his dog maybe
@harikumars1487
@harikumars1487 Жыл бұрын
Hey Nelson, I have a challenge for you Play a match against Martin, but "without" your Queen, and both of your Rooks. You are allowed to promote your Pawn to a Rook, but not to a Queen. Good luck!
@lesgoshooping6695
@lesgoshooping6695 Жыл бұрын
I think in the case of a queen pin, you can flank pawn attack because queen just recaptures and pawn structure isn't damaged. It also prepares the escape square for a kingside castle. Additionally, in a king pin, I think its best to move the bishop as it defends the knight and develops a piece. Despite Magnus ignoring over half of the time, my observations are probably better for lower rated players because we may not know how to take advantage of the position and just being a pawn or other down. I'd like some feedback to know if my analysis was good as a low rated player. Edit: Considering the counter attack option, it does seem good but again, its a lot easier for a low rated player to not know how to counterattack correctly and defending may seem like the more solid option.
@christopherheckman7957
@christopherheckman7957 Жыл бұрын
Someone else commented about whether the numbers change for pins on the king as opposed to pins on the queen.
@lesgoshooping6695
@lesgoshooping6695 Жыл бұрын
@@christopherheckman7957 didn't see it
@BO55N355
@BO55N355 Жыл бұрын
"You can do it Nelson" 🤣🤣🤣
@abee3440
@abee3440 Жыл бұрын
2% of the time he moved his queen. 1:24 3% of the time he defended with the knight. 2:34 4% of the time he defended with the queen. 4:05 13% of the time he blocked with the bishop. 5:38 23% of the time he attacked with the flank pawn. 6:49 55% of the time he ignored the pin and continued developing. 9:26
@SeppyDawg
@SeppyDawg 2 ай бұрын
This was great, please do more of these!
@henriquetomio
@henriquetomio 3 ай бұрын
One could argue that moving the bishop in the first example is not ignoring it, but is preparing to castle so the knight is no longer pinned. Great info, thanks
@tsa_gamer007
@tsa_gamer007 Жыл бұрын
Your efforts must be appreciated. It is not easy to find 100 good games and analyze them. The video is very helpful and it vanished one of my difficulties
@eahemming
@eahemming Жыл бұрын
Wow, really informative. Thanks for all the work you put into gathering this knowledge for everyone!
@steve_watson_644
@steve_watson_644 Жыл бұрын
There's Magnus ignoring the pin and winning and then there's me ignoring the pin and getting smothered or ending up in a fork
@burakdindaroglu8948
@burakdindaroglu8948 Жыл бұрын
Nice work finding and summarizing all these games, thanks! Since all these pins happen in different scenarios, and not all of them threathen doubling the pawns, it would be nice to see how he responds to the actual threat of doubling a pawn.
@1a1u0g9t4s2u
@1a1u0g9t4s2u Жыл бұрын
Nice deep dive into studying Magnus' games. Thanks for sharing.
@danih.m.753
@danih.m.753 5 ай бұрын
Amazing way to explain, so complete and really full of examples and information, thank you!
@jacobdrollinger4802
@jacobdrollinger4802 8 ай бұрын
You can do it, Nelson! 😂
@kz7287
@kz7287 Жыл бұрын
That was so interesting. keep doing great work man.👍
@Nill757
@Nill757 9 ай бұрын
Note the “ignore” play happens in Q gambit w the pawn gone so no double pawn in recapture. Major factor.
@moorcum
@moorcum Жыл бұрын
I really like your videos, not only are they entertaining but I learn something with every video, thanks.
@Abelj239
@Abelj239 Жыл бұрын
7:44 thats a solid opening, the anderssen
@jasonsiebold
@jasonsiebold Жыл бұрын
Great info. Thanks for putting in the work.
@mapachetapatio
@mapachetapatio Жыл бұрын
brilliant!! that is true chess analysis. I wish I could see more like this one!
@awang_ir
@awang_ir Жыл бұрын
Next suggestion: how Nelson responds to hate comments Edited: I don't know how serious Nelson analyze this. This dedication is so underrated
@glassofwater5140
@glassofwater5140 Жыл бұрын
Magnus: "Ignores Pins" Me: "Moves the pinned piece"
@DudeWhoSaysDeez
@DudeWhoSaysDeez 2 ай бұрын
I like these analysis videos. You might even consider using all grandmaster-level games as an initial starting point, although the dataset would be much larger.
@dashvash5440
@dashvash5440 Жыл бұрын
In example one, moving the queen, it would have been nice to see the next move by Magnus. I'd imagine he defended against the knight but still seeing his next move and (depending on your expertise, 1st time viewer) if he wanted the knight to come in or if he should have just moved the queen to defend against the knight initially. Love the content idea. Edit: just saw you're titled so your expertise is obviously valued.
@roblodocus2539
@roblodocus2539 Жыл бұрын
Cut to Hikaru gratefully watching this in his hotel room the night before his next match with Magnus. Fantastic video btw!
@ChessVibesOfficial
@ChessVibesOfficial Жыл бұрын
Haha I don't think my research is THAT good!
@Dustii91
@Dustii91 8 ай бұрын
I'm absolutely brand new to chess, so this is probably an example of what I should not be watching at this moment, but brilliant food for thought, so many options scenario dependent. Thank you for taking the time!
@andyvaldez4334
@andyvaldez4334 Жыл бұрын
Nelson, you're a real one! Keep up the good work.
@lightmodesupremacy7321
@lightmodesupremacy7321 Жыл бұрын
Opponent: Ha! I opened up your structure! Magnus: No, you opened up my attack
@GeekyNeil
@GeekyNeil Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the analysis. You must have put a lot of effort in. You definitely got some useful results.
@justcam5502
@justcam5502 Жыл бұрын
This is a great video. This video will surely improve my future chess gameplay and skills. Thank you very much.
@TheAnimal191
@TheAnimal191 Жыл бұрын
One of your best videos. Makes me wonder how other players handle the same thing
@RyanHarris77
@RyanHarris77 Жыл бұрын
I almost always immediately kick with the A/H pawn. I’m going to mess around with not responding immediately to it and see how that feels.
@wat712
@wat712 Жыл бұрын
thank you nelson now i wont fail to win in a boxing game as i now know dogs bark
@mitchellverhelle3986
@mitchellverhelle3986 Жыл бұрын
When you say he ignores it, it looks like this only happens in specific scenarios: i.e. he sees an easy oportunity to move the piece behind the knight outmof the way in a way that helps him more
@NoNoahhhh
@NoNoahhhh Жыл бұрын
This is a very good idea from you. You can make othet analysises of magnus responses to certain positions/openings/inputs
@justhereforstudying4733
@justhereforstudying4733 Жыл бұрын
You should have made two seperate charts for knight pinning to king and knight pinning to queen and other things as there he can move the knight too
@GanonTEK
@GanonTEK Жыл бұрын
Good point. The orange segment there I think only makes good sense if it's a Queen that's pinned which probably happens on average 50% of pins. Otherwise, you're going to double up your pawns. I think if you had separate charts, the queen pin one could double the orange segment and probably be the most popular option and in the king pin one, that option might go to 0% and be the lowest choice.
@mygod2529
@mygod2529 Жыл бұрын
Super helpful! Thank you for this vid!
@ariwsaragih
@ariwsaragih 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing the hard works man. Much appreciated..and God bless
@chrisdonahue2402
@chrisdonahue2402 11 ай бұрын
TY for the video. Bobby fischer had the same mindset, that the best defense is a good offense.
@Vexy93
@Vexy93 8 ай бұрын
This dude presented this video like if he was presenting a new project to the CEO of Google
@stevenottomanyi154
@stevenottomanyi154 Жыл бұрын
I really love your sense of humor. And everything else!
@robertcahoon5278
@robertcahoon5278 Жыл бұрын
Aren't you assuming that the move immediately following a pin is always in response to the pin which I would think is not necessarily true. The move could be motivated by another factor entirely! 😁 love the channel by the way.
@christopherheckman7957
@christopherheckman7957 Жыл бұрын
I think that's kind of implied when you are "looking for the reaction." You could make a case when the next move is a check or something else that has a higher priority for the opponent than BxN (such as an attack on the queen).
@danieljckson
@danieljckson 8 ай бұрын
Should have also factored if he won the games. Each color wedge could be split into light and dark color for wins and losses.
@yasinhurairah3474
@yasinhurairah3474 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for another excellent video Nelson I have learnt alot from you!
@JIRKA_Praha
@JIRKA_Praha 8 ай бұрын
Incredible job for us, Nelson 👍 Thx a lot 💖
@Iuftwaffe
@Iuftwaffe 11 ай бұрын
Dudes actually a watered down Dr Strange 😂💀
@86jam184
@86jam184 Жыл бұрын
dude, i want you to make a video on literally everything. I heart data
@ok-cn6yr
@ok-cn6yr Жыл бұрын
3:16 "..and then they can much easier- much easily- ea-" *contemplates life decisions*
@garymurawski1476
@garymurawski1476 Ай бұрын
How do you find the time? I am learning so much and truly am gratified with your expeertise.
@darrylkassle361
@darrylkassle361 Жыл бұрын
This is Chessvibes is one of the best chess channels. The content is original and instructive
@sharkisthere
@sharkisthere Жыл бұрын
I love this video. This was a lot of effort.
@QuatschAlder
@QuatschAlder Жыл бұрын
crazy video, huge props! you did a really good job there!
@colescalisthenics
@colescalisthenics Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the time and effort you put into this video!! Thank you very much!!!!
@taufiqusman6655
@taufiqusman6655 8 ай бұрын
That is a lot of work but the presentation is worth watching. Thank you.
@kennethlewis3870
@kennethlewis3870 Жыл бұрын
Very good Nelson. Thank you for the effort.
@ramending840
@ramending840 Жыл бұрын
Actually at 3:30 and moments leading to it, it's just the cambridge springs defense and all theory.
@virgodem
@virgodem Жыл бұрын
I’d say castling address the pin on the king there, rather than completely ignoring it.
@adamnevraumont4027
@adamnevraumont4027 Жыл бұрын
Respond in this context is the *next* move
@VanillaLimeCoke
@VanillaLimeCoke 5 ай бұрын
0:03 He looks like my one karate teacher from 1994-1995 …..and also like that one dad from the movie Searching For Bobby Fischer.
@JakeKlineMusic
@JakeKlineMusic Жыл бұрын
I'd be curious to see win/lose/draw% for each of the slices, also
@innocentcauliflower1651
@innocentcauliflower1651 Жыл бұрын
What a hard working man lol. I always wondered what the best move was against a king sided knight fork. I hated having that doublepawn and when you start with something like the italian game i dont want to move the bishop back
@_Blacklagoon_
@_Blacklagoon_ Жыл бұрын
3:17 Nelson.exe stop working
@Medeovcra1
@Medeovcra1 Жыл бұрын
9:37 thanks for telling me something I didn’t know
@cornwallnick
@cornwallnick Жыл бұрын
Great analysis. Thanks 🙏
@Mrfallouthero
@Mrfallouthero 11 ай бұрын
Why does this feel like a boss tutorial
@charoglean6739
@charoglean6739 Жыл бұрын
Can you do about queen and king fork, queen secured, or queen pin
@yogi9631
@yogi9631 8 ай бұрын
My god, such detailed analysis
@LeonardGMN
@LeonardGMN Жыл бұрын
I think it would have been nice, if you had included some examples of the flank pawn attack with a pin on the king. Usually the pawn structure feels very awkward if the opponents decides to capture (especially early on in the game). And: Are there any differences in percentage when it comes to "attack with flank pawn" on King vs Queen pin?
@christopherheckman7957
@christopherheckman7957 Жыл бұрын
That was what I was going to say. 8-) With a pin on the king, you obviously can't move the knight, and you probably wouldn't with the queen, but there might be a combination where you checkmate or win more than a queen.
@BALLIST1C
@BALLIST1C Жыл бұрын
Actually he probably responded like this, he thought to himself "Oh no, a pin"
@Siatkowkarzadzi
@Siatkowkarzadzi 8 ай бұрын
Interesting question is: how many times his move directly after the pin will result in double pawns in case the opponent decides to take the pinned piece?
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