What's the difference between 1000 and 2200?

[@CorneredChess]

Thanks for inviting me to play Nelson, I had great fun!

[@marioprogamer12345]

gg I’m also 900 lol

[@Rega_Plays]

lol

[@flpsnk4848]

Pretty good thought process most of the time, apart from that g3 move, I like the game. This was at least 1300 performace Id say, good job.

[@zzzaphod8507]

Brave to play against Nelson publicly, and well done despite the loss

[@arassemiaktas8075]

dude you are jacked

[@b005t3r]

The difference is 1200 elo. Thank you.

[@JuliusBallerda]

wtf🤣

[@Michi_owo-VLLC]

@@JuliusBallerda Very assertant

[@lukasjetu9776]

Objection!!! i did the maths and it's actually a difference of 1287 elo

[@denzanis301]

Thank you so much, now I don’t have to watch the whole video to find that answer, you saved me 50 minutes thank you!

[@Laneline5000]

LOL. First thing I thought and then I read this comment.

[@arrowofkira5658]

All these collabs with those different personalities is so cool and wholesome, i really hope this stays a consistant part of his content for the future.

[@sepfms]

Yes, great format to watch both sides thinking and playing!

[@svengessner3561]

Thank you Nelson. I think you’ve invented a new format and it works. Listening to both players thinking through the moves makes it even more exiting then a speed run.m. Just great to watch. As far as I can tell you’ve changed the editing a bit so that your thought process doesn’t give away to much of the tension of the game, Because we are listening to your opponents first. Keep it up!

[@executivelifehacks6747]

Indeed, I have never seen this format anywhere else. I really like Nelson's understated approach too. It will catch on and I bet Gotham picks it up. I can really relate to the 900 odd level player as I have been there recently and as an 1100 or so I can see a few things I've learnt that make a difference. For example considering when putting a piece in a position to trade, what am I going to be exchanging with and does it worsen my position? If so, don't invite that. It all stems from internalising Igor Smirnov's "To take is a mistake" dictum, at least for me. I am quite impressed at his positional understanding however. He considers what his better pieces are. I think he needs to grind more puzzles and his opening knowledge could be improved?

[@duraisingamvelu]

Ofcourse this is good I agree ! Interesting rather than I having to just think on myself in 2 seconds .

[@stealthgenetix1754]

I found this very valuable.

[@user-jl9el3ks8u]

Keep this series up, we need more of these videos

[@exuviumisopods]

Two times he could move his knight, improving it by also capturing material.... And he didn't. It's strange that I am able to see other player's blunders, but not seeing mine! 😁

[@darkdolphin8310]

And the funny thing is they can see your blunders while not figuring theirs

[@ruimdsilvac]

@@darkdolphin8310 yesterday I did a 61 move game that ended up in repetition draw in my favor because I had thrown the game, when I did the review I saw I missed a move really early at like 17 i think, that I had a move to fork the queen and king and that would turn the entire game to me... Tunnel Vision is really a bad thing in this game xD

[@Laryon720]

because its not your game so you are not hyper focus on the direct menace and can focus on the overall match instead

[@bofetada6841]

The same thing is true about life and relationships. It's difficult to see our blind spots

[@exuviumisopods]

@@bofetada6841 correct. And in the same train of thought,we care more about judging others, than observing ourselves and being mindful and aware of how we choose to react in various circumstances.

[@jarchdm]

Out of all the chess channels i have learned the most from yours. Your calm analysis of the positions and your willingness to say i don't know what comes next I'll just play principles of solid chess is inspirational. Thank you

[@TheDa6781]

Naroditsky is also very good

[@TheCompositeKing]

He isn't playing according to solid chess principles. He's playing passively and ignoring good strategy, not recognising the problems with the opponent's position or opportunities within his own. I think it's just that it's difficult to take advantage of what he's doing tactically.

[@codekeeper32]

I really like these types of videos. Getting perspective from both sides of the board and at differing skill levels is very interesting and informative.

[@cody3620]

Keep this format going! I would also like to see the post game conversation between you and your opponent as you discuss the game review. Think it would be instructive to see how you both reflect on the key moments of the game.

[@RealityCheck1]

Key difference is Nelson thinks longer before deciding on a move but his moves does more than just attack or defend. He would position his pieces on good squares that would squeeze the 1000 rated player.

[@joannewilson6577]

Not only that but Nelson develop all his pieces a lot faster and he doesn't play very bad move like g3....that was a super weak move that only a beginner would do. So that was two rookie major mistakes.

[@RandomGuyOnYoutube601]

He still played badly. "I don't like Nf6 becouse the bishop would pin me". Like wtf? Nf6 Bg5 dxe4 and black is winning? Not even calculating one move and rejecting Nf6 outright.

[@colecube8251]

​@@RandomGuyOnKZbin601bro thinks he's better than a national master ☠️☠️☠️

[@RandomGuyOnYoutube601]

@@colecube8251 I have 2200 FIDE rating bro

[@frogufo]

@@colecube8251 he might be I mean I'm a Im and im better than him

[@olivernordin]

very instructuable

[@davidatkinson2282]

Thank you both, a very instructive tutorial and easy to follow. More please. You both have such a good way of presenting the options on the available moves. Most enjoyable.

[@DM-lx4yu]

I enjoyed this format! thanks guys

[@namansinghal102]

Answer is 1200 elo

[@KierzaReal]

Good at math

[@fernanmartinez1699]

Great game! Love this format. Hope you keep doing these vids for us

[@RealityCheck1]

Nelson is top-notch when it comes to chess tutorials.

[@mugishapopoo5648]

U should see Eric Rosen...u will never see a calm and clear explanations better than his

[@wokencs330]

Rosen is a better player but his tutorials aren’t as good as Nelson imo and this is coming from someone who’s a massive Rosen fan and has studied theory from his videos

[@dtrinla]

I really enjoyed this one with Nelson. It was a perfect counterpoint to what I have learned from your multiple games with lesser players. Thanks to you both.

[@basteala525]

This was a really helpful video. Seeing the advanced vs intermediate perspective, seeing what each think about, and the habit to backseat drive like "no, no, you should be thinking about THIS!"...and then realizing I make those same mistakes...it's very informative in an entertaining package. You both taught me a lot today. Thank you.

[@danielarens8072]

Total abandonment of the king mid game is an interesting tactic

[@TheRealAyeGee]

love your videos nelson

[@markb-vj8ir]

These are amazing tutorials. Thanks so much for making. Please keep them coming!

[@dylan8363]

I really enjoyed this video format giving both perspectives. Super insightful!

[@SoccerinMN]

This is a superb video, very good idea to do a two-sided. As a ver y dumb person it took 5 mins or so to get in the groove of following the back and forth but fascinating to see you both talk through what the other person's options are. Just finished and it got even better. What an insight into the human perspective. At the 42-minute mark, the English dude is focused on the Bishop/Castle thing in the corner and the other guy doesn't even consider it part of the game. Very interesting stuff.

[@ishpreetwarrior8845]

You're really straight forward that makes you different from gotham chess and etc.

[@anthonycarbone3826]

I noticed Nelson rarely allows any piece to be not protected, (and usually always leaves his pieces connected for a recapture unless it is a gambit ploy) while the lower rated player moves his pieces with no protection much of the time.

[@ForeverHuffsLiving]

Outstanding!! I thoroughly enjoyed watching this and seeing the thought process of both sides. Keep it up please.

[@Rebecca_Baxter]

This is a great format for a video-more of these please.

[@imran_rasoli]

I really loved this type of videos! Wow AMAZING! more of these videos please! I'll be now heading to the video where yall talk about this game.

[@stoycho9776]

Dude, his board is much higher quality, Nelson please look into how he records the board, it is higher resolution.

[@NF30]

Looks like he's playing on a Mac with a high-density display, judging by the font of the numbers on his screen

[@maksim3663]

there's always a downside: it's chess, basically we need two colors to understand how the game goes😅

[@bozzbozz2800]

Noone gives a f

[@SoftBreadSoft]

@@NF30 it shouldn't be that different on a 1080p video though, a lot of people play with a small board so it might just be quite stretched to fit the stream window. better scaling filter would help

[@hugovaz777]

The difference is nelsi is constantly thinking attack and how to develop while defending whereas 1000 elo is stuck on one threat moves at defending pieces by moving them without developing other pieces while simultaneously defending. Also not recognizing dangerous threats is a common mistake that many of us have. Ty for sharing

[@SparkyForce]

Also scared of tension. They only let pieces stare at each other for a few moves before getting the urge to trade them off for basically no reason. I am also 1000 so I see it all the time haha

[@LightHolmes]

highly educational series, love it

[@maxiebon1]

29:45 pawn to E4 to stop d5 and fork him first before your Knight move and pawn push

[@TarverKing]

This is by far the best chess channel on KZbin. Thank you so much!!

[@NPC-W]

1:50 c3 with a need for queen controlling the centre and 17:53 he miss the chance to develop the knight and attack the bishop when he developed fewer pieces making him cannot find a good time to develop his knight and the knight also blocking the rook behind then leads to a strange g3 in front of a castled king because of too few pieces to defend and at the end he just give up to think and push his only developed bishop to capture a pawn far far away from the battlefield

[@jackrobinson6998]

Amazing format guys, love to see more of it.

[@Fitness4London]

Fantastic format, gives a real insight into both minds.

[@NJDJ1986]

@25:38 oooof! pawn g3 move is the most 990 elo thing that was ever done! no 2000 elo player or higher would decide to play g3!

[@RedwanurRahaman-cv9mr]

Yeah I am 1800 and I was thinking to trade the bishops not the pawn push.

[@SoDamnMetal]

I'm 2200 and there is definitely merit to voluntarily open up the g file to slide your rook over

[@8964TS]

Not in that position with the bishop pair staring at you in the corner, the knight on g6 ready to jump in and both queen and rook lurking behind the lines. That’s a terrible time to be opening yourself up like that.

[@pearljam_1]

You right they only play g4 haha

[@Brigand88]

New player here. At 43:17 why wouldn't black move Rf4, then Rg4 for the checkmate?

[@Brigand88]

Never mind. I watched the next 60 seconds lol

[@leonaleona333]

It was very interesting listen to both players in real time. Good video!

[@nickwettstein1733]

at 19:00 ish minutes. would have been cool to see cornered chess move his central pawn up, putting pressure on F6 pawn. would have opened up king side. he has very quick mobility with dark square, light square bishops and queen. nelsi's king would have been very vulnerable. and white bishop on F4 would have created problems where Nelsi thought it was not a strong move, turns into a powerhouse

[@frankmuldowney7839]

Well, that was more informative than a class.... I learned more from that game than any. I thank both players for explaining what they are doing and being honest about it. Thank you both.

[@vimaladevishanmugam5943]

I had a lot new idea dur to this video , thx Nelson!

[@googleevil9553]

What a great analysis video, better than other channels imo.

[@ahmedsaleh3729]

6:19 wouldn’t queen d6 would make more since?

[@maksim3663]

great video, and very instructive. and with analysis like this @CorneredChess will leave elo level 1000 way behind very soon

[@SkateAwayTheDay]

Great idea and video. Lil suggestion - If there was another player that was even more advanced like 2500 reflecting over both your games, I think that would add a little more value to this.

[@PaulvanAarle-tw9ib]

This is so interesting to watch! Seeing both thought processes on the same situation. Funny how different you can see things from one side of the board or the other.

[@i.g.l.z.9215]

Great format, instructional and fun to watch! Kuddos to the opponent, a sound general approach and rather thorough thinking (I believe quite a bit above his current level? Great potential to develop further).

[@viktorvondoom9119]

Good format. For education, I think watching just your side is more useful. This is because watching your opponent's side does not really provide a lot of *new* insights when you are around the same elo level as them. But also including them in the video is entertaining though. So for entertainment, you could include your opponent's side as well. Not meant to hate on CorneredChess, just feedback on the format. Big shout out to him for participating :)

[@dragon1979x]

Had to say cornered chess have great personality he's enjoying every part of the game.

[@untartelette7545]

Love this series. Haven't seen this concept on another chess canal. Subscribed.

[@Mayberryminiatures]

That was actually really entertaining. Good job fellas😊

[@zBroBG]

What if your opponent sacrificed the dark squared bishop on h6 square and then exd5 and after your move they could get a good attack with queen h5 (i might be wrong but i think its a good sacrifice) at 15:24

[@OnRappel]

100% the most insightful chess video I've seen. I could watch these everyday!!

[@TheCompositeKing]

Tbh there were some bad moves on both sides (see my comment on the bad d5 black played in the beginning, which is silly for a master to play). I will say that a great channel for chess insight is Chess Wisdom.

[@1964CJW]

I love this series. Outstanding learning tool.

[@krezavimis222]

4:20,im 1500 and i think nelson has made a mistake,whites knight can go to b3 and attack the bishop,when the bishop moves or is defended,you take the pawn on d5 and white is up a pawn.nelson should have played nf6 because there is no good way to defend the pawn except f3 which creates weaknesses

[@mylove1618]

Cool perspective from both sides

[@rmendeljacobs2832]

this is an absolutely fantastic way to teach chess!!!! great job nelson

[@TruthIsLove.]

It's strange you both have the same tone of voice in the same manner. It's like 2 players but one mind speaking. Either way it's a great job editing this in the way you have shown us both perspectives. Thanks

[@JohnKawieZogarSr]

This is great. Please do more of this kind of games.

[@MrDavePed]

I'm about 1250 and Cornered did some really good considerations in my opinion. Good job !

[@greamespens1460]

Really enjoying these

[@igo0di]

Enjoyed this video a lot. Thanks!

[@fathalighasemian7832]

This type of videos are so informative.i really learn and enjoy from your calculations. Thank you very much 🙏🙏

[@Blu858]

Yes

[@Blu858]

Yes

[@Blu858]

Yes

[@vishy]

That was awesome … really enjoyed watching that and learnt a lot. Please make more vids like this

[@joe-sonny]

This is a great video. Do more of these if you feel up to it Nelson! Especially for the people who are low elo :)

[@davidhume6275]

Excellent format for a chess video! Bravo

[@jedrzejkraszpulski442]

These collabs have been very cool!

[@warmongerfenrir8524]

Great video!

[@trevlince1929]

Great game, well played, loved seeing both perspectives.

[@tp7185]

Bro... At 27:55, knight of g6 to f4, there are two chances to down his queen or bishop

[@keemo63301]

WTG Nelson. You beat him up so bad, he gave up completely. RIP Cornered Chess.

[@chadwaronicki8231]

THis was super cool. WIsh more chess streamers did stuff like this. Excellent content

[@samermabrouk4813]

thank you both for this great video

[@lumbarspine4637]

Nelsi 4 moves ahead thinking and planning all possible variations ( big picture viewer), Cornered is focusing one max 2 moves ahead. very interesting to watch

[@mountainwolf.5455]

At 9:04 isn't checkmate possible by just two moves of Black's queen.??

[@bagboybrown]

Me @ 43:30 Screaming "knight to D2" at my computer. *Bishop to A8* "Ok, I guess we just lose."

[@emmanuellaurens2132]

2:41 So far I've heard black musing 'I think c3 is a move but I can't remember the line' and black musing 'I don't remember the lines but I think c3 is a move let's play that'. My take: 1000 or 2200, no difference, they don't really know their openings past the third move yet :)

[@Yourlandlord.payrent]

But will grind u in the middle game and win easily

[@pearljam_1]

Low rated players don’t play main line openings. No master has every side line memorized.

[@jamesgowing3856]

He did get cornered in the end. So well named 😂

[@THEFEZFEZ]

Love this series, keep it coming!

[@felipeperez7525]

This is what I have been looking for!! Thanks guys!!

[@hreedwork]

Very useful instructional format, and great content 😎

[@pandoradude123]

This is a great way to learn, super creative and helpful idea guys!

[@AudiFreakize]

I love this concept. No training video shows more the different ways of thinking 🎉 its rly varied 😁

[@kingtrill7070]

Wow what a creative video! Never had this much fun learning haha

[@Giovanni-Georgio_o]

8:54 tbh you should've played queen c7 so his pawn wont be able to take yours because it would threaten the king lol

[@jorgeherrera1074]

I'm 1150 rating and I have no idea what the "scotch opening" is. Other than e4 e5, and d4 d5, I don't know any openings...

[@karriemshabazz7407]

I Enjoyed That, I Would like to See More. Very Instructive to Follow along.

[@unechainevideo]

Good video ! Well done

[@HorndiggleSexheat]

Hey cool series thanks for making these

[@johnnyschannel9094]

Love the concept !! And you look like Tom hardy. Great video. 🎉

[@BlackSheep_216]

He has you playing in the corner while he is smothering your king.

[@kianushmaleki]

Very interesting video. Very instructive. Please more

[@mattsteinberg2083]

Dude as a new player I love this format!

[@dauzonypon4514]

Vry instructive game Sir.i want Hope u can upload more videos like this .Your fan from Philippines

[@RadishAcceptable]

Very good content! Loved this. He did manage to feel out his own mistakes, but wasn't able to actually calculate it all. That's the difference in skill here, in a nutshell. Gotta work on those tactics!

[@ramoth7333]

This is the first player I've seen that's under 1200 who keeps the tension. Every player I play in the 1100-1200 range is ALWAYS trade happy.

[@pearljam_1]

I was thinking the same thing. He recognized trading bishops improved Nelson’s position which is awesome. Lots of low rated players get scared of tension and trade to simplify even though it weakens their position.

[@WhateverYouDoDontLikeThis]

For those whos wondering what the main differentes are: 1000 uses standard design, 2200 old design.

[@Dooka134]

19:55 move e4 can be?

[@MaugLiTzu]

Great video, Nelson! I really hope you'll make a series based on this idea, it would be very useful. CorneredChess is a star! It's funny, my ELO is 1235, but I can't boast of such a structured thinking as CorneredChess has. Maybe I play a little better, but my thoughts are a furious hurricane. It seems like I can learn something from a person who plays not better than me. Interesting! Guys! Please continue! 🙏