How Many Jumps Does It Take To Beat Sonic Adventure 1 (Sonic's Story)? - DPadGamer

[@DPadGamer]

Oh boy, new video! I spent most of December de-stressin, and I'm feeling pretty good. I just started up a new channel called 'Consume Content' where I'll be making videos discussing movies, tv shows, books & other media. Check it out if that sounds interesting: kzbin.info/door/01ENc1X5cyUGxYGUlhWAVQ P.S: There will be at least one more upload on DPadGamer this month, hopefully two.

[@ravysaini127]

Your calucations are off. Its 23 since I saw you jump when there was nothing to cause the jump in the game in sky chase act 1 so you must have pressed the jump button

[@MortonMcCastle]

The real question is, can you beat Sonic Adventure with Parallel Universes and Half of an A Press?

[@Borti_Ovi]

19:50 Here’s something pretty cheeky here: it’s not Eggman rotating the ship or part of the ship at least. As Sonic is doing his thing in that area, it’s Knuckles who’s rotating the ship while finding the Master Emerald pieces. I love that this game is one story but gives perspective to six characters participating in it, especially when those perspectives clash!

[@s.v.367]

Why can't we see Knuckles then?

[@soul.phrase]

@@s.v.367 he’s probably behind the wall or smth

[@soul.phrase]

Also, I was thinking of ideas for a sonic adventure 3, and though that having multiple characters in levels would be cool, like sonic would take one path in the level, tails would take another, and knuckles would take another.

[@azylan]

knux must've been doing a pretty bad job of it to tilt the ship completely sideways lmao

[@billjohns5943]

We must finish this saga. There are 6 more characters to play as. Knuckles and especially Tails sound pretty interesting. But that's only if you want to.

[@thescaletblur07]

Well then your gonna have to sit through the torture that is big the cat soooooooooooooo

[@sonicsaver2138]

You would actually have to run off of a ledge to curl up into a ball. So you would have to fall, press A, then you would fly or glide.

[@Mewhenthewhenthe-b5d]

@@thescaletblur07 big the cat isn't bad when you don't think of it as a sonic game.

[@geekume5539]

Tbh big the cat is already done so is gamma but we need more of this

[@thatitalianlameguy2235]

@@Mewhenthewhenthe-b5d No he is bad. They should've used the bass fishing dreamcast game engine

[@dukecherry5169]

This is really a testament to why so many people like adventure era sonic. Just the amount of freedom in the sandbox. Being able to tackle problems any way you want. It's something games can learn from but instead people make fun of this game because the freedom at times creates jank

[@orlandofurioso7329]

And this is why i love 06 as well, i LOVE those open levels

[@dukecherry5169]

@@orlandofurioso7329 06 was a fantastic idea with the world's worst execution. On paper it sounds like the perfect adventure game.

[@mark030a]

@@dukecherry5169 You can even see the effort behind all of it, if you look close enough. Especially with the pre-rendered cutscenes and the soundtrack. Man, SEGA almost never disappoints with the soundtrack.

[@beta511ee4]

@@dukecherry5169 Sandbox? Why describe it as such?

[@dukecherry5169]

@@beta511ee4 that's the term developers use for how the player interacts with everything in a level.

[@negative1001]

This is a fantastic video! This isn't about the challenge itself, but something I wanna point out is that you mention that Eggman is rotating the ship in Sky Deck to mess with Sonic or whatever, but I think it's implied that it's actually Knuckles rotating it as in his version of the level, he turns the ship to make searching for the pieces easier. This isn't anything mind blowing or useful, but something I've always found very funny. Love the video man

[@Indi6902]

Pfp checks out. Bucken Berry supremacy

[@theultimategamer95]

23:58 You could've charged up a light speed attack, charged up a spindash, release the button for a split second (to execute the spindash whilst keeping the charged light speed attack), re-hold the spindash button (to keep it charged), and then release it at a certain time to make it to the platform. All whilst navigating around the platform to get to the other enemy. Hopefully that all made sense lol. You're welcome. Some neat tricks I haven't seen before in here though, pretty nice!

[@DPadGamer]

Are you talking about going from the 'impassable' ledge I paused at, and going forward aiming for that flaming enemy? Yeah, that might just work. I know its possible to combo the spindash and lighstpeed dash but never quite got the hang of it.

[@theultimategamer95]

​@@DPadGamer I am yes. Only one spindash is required, so it's not super difficult to execute, but it's still definitely not the easiest trick in the world, I'll admit, so fair enough if you can't get it.

[@sansthecritic8444]

I’m a big fan of your sonic adventure videos

[@josepha4161]

Even without knowing about this method, I had a feeling that 17th jump area was possible jumpless.

[@superzigzagoon]

16:16 It would be tougher on the Dreamcast version due to a lack of free camera but I was able to skip a jump by doing a spin dash jump skipping the pillars. Even with free camera, it did take me several tries.

[@Lunacy_Phoenix]

Was just about to say this before I was you comment.

[@OniFox]

Don't know if this was addressed already at 9:47, but it is fully possible to clip into the Race part of Twinkle Park (With Jumps unfortunately), but it is physically impossible for Regular Sonic to complete it. The Ramps and Speed-Boosts on the Race Track were not coded with Sonic in mind, so what will happen is that he'll get the boost of speed he needs, but then immediately stop dead in his track because he's touching the ground. Because of this, he can't clear the jumps you have to take over bottomless pits, and even if you Spindash Jump to skip those jumps, you'll most likely hit a Death-Plane, and die anyway. So that Jump into the Twinkle Cart is not only the better option, but it's also the ONLY option. tl:dr: You cannot beat the Twinkle Park Racetrack as Regular Sonic.

[@bobbob1876]

The range on the Light Speed Attack is incredible! Had I known that, I might have used it a bit more...

[@MasterFallenHero]

I didn't realize how many sequence breaks this game had. I've played it easily a dozen times and this is trippy

[@CrashtoHedgehog]

As someone that has been workshopping this exact challenge for years (at least since 2015) I can knock a few jumps off. Mind you I've been playing PC vanilla for the most part so idk if mods have any impact. It shouldn't but a forewarning anyway. 2:36 Jump #4 is a waste. The ramps collision is bugged, spindash from the bottom left and you'll get launched up to the top every time. 24:04 Jump #17 is a waste as well. One of the most well known bugs in the game is dual-charging light dashes. This means you can spin with X and hold it, then hold B and begin spinning again. This means you can release the second charge, begin falling and then release your charge to make it on the platform by attacking the enemy across the platform. I also have a video of me beating this level jumpless if you search up "Lost World Jumpless" it'll come up. not much to add to the last act of Lost World except that you can simplify things, again, by spinjumping (not a real jump!) on the buttons to save yourself a potential panic attack. 25:57 Lastly Jump #18. Spinjump off the conveyor belt and you can skip a jump. I know "spinjump" has "jump" in the name but it's not a real jump, just let Sonic ride off the ramp naturally. He'll get the height he needs. As an aside the fifth panel in Windy Valley is doable and even easier without the lightdash so I highly suggest to anyone crazy enough to try this, do NOT go for that early. Just spinjump (same as #18, not a real jump) on the trampoline from outside the fence and you're golden. Again not sure how much the mods complicate things but in theory between the two versions you can knock the number down to nineteen. And that's just with what I know. Congrats on managing this. Seriously it is not an easy feat.

[@DPadGamer]

Thank you very much for the feedback. You were right, I was able to skip jumps #4 and #17. For jump #18, I'm not quite sure what you mean, which conveyor belt, the one infront of the checkpoint? EDIT: Okay, I figured it out, and skipped #18... but man. This game's physics & camera are ridiculous.

[@CrashtoHedgehog]

@@DPadGamer The conveyor belt in back. The channel Refrag has a "0 A presses" run of the level you can use as reference :)

[@DPadGamer]

Ohhh. I just checked Refrag's video; I ended up doing something entirely different, but using a similar idea. Tyty

[@yqgameryt3835]

Liked how clear you were when explaining all the tricks, made it much easier to understand everything you did, I hope that you do indeed revisit the game for other stories

[@dynamite4056]

No clue if you’ll see or read this comment, but good job on the challenge! I actually did a minimum jumps run of SA1 myself and overall this video ended cutting down the total a bit (going from 12 jumps in sky deck to 6). A few bits of optimization you missed were after the ladder at the start of sky deck, you can just spin dash jump to skip the cylinders and cut out 2 jumps, and in the mirror room of lost world you can take a careful route with light speed dashing to reduce it to 0 jumps. Overall though this was a super fun video (it brought me great joy seeing someone else suffer on chaos 4), if you do end up trying the other stories, I’d be more than willing to give any insight from my run over discord!

[@5h3i1ah_and_Nik0]

Dreamcast Conversion does actually affect gameplay by changing a bunch of minor things in the level layouts! But it shouldn't be too big of a deal overall.

[@brokholliday7557]

I can tell you it did 764 jumps for joy when I saw you uploaded a new video!

[@brokholliday7557]

Oh and I love that you said damage boost in the first 2 mins :-)

[@baggelissonic]

For someone that spent so much time for such a difficult challenge, it's pretty weird that you didn't call the homing attack by its name, but used names from different noves.

[@parzival-bo]

I wonder what the others would be like. Knuckles would be pure RNG though, a true minimum would be really hard to know for sure.

[@KryptCeeper969]

1:40 it is actually impossible to fall in those pits. They have a wind current that blows you back up.

[@KonroMan]

I haven’t been so hyped up watch a video until now.

[@dragowolf268]

Amazing video but something about a homing attack being called a jump attack kills me

[@0PercentImagination]

There's something amusing about the amount of times it seemed like you'd need to jump just to clip through a wall/door instead. As for the other characters it might be worth a try, I'll admit the idea of a big the cat jumpless video is also amusing because of how dumb it sounds.

[@YujiUedaFan]

Knuckles makes Skydeck interior turn when he's looking for Emerald Shards.

[@soup4219]

at least you didnt go into it for a jumpless challenge, but a minimum jump challenge

[@kirstenonic05]

1:34 Funnily enough you can just walk across these gaps because there are airflows that suspend Sonic in the air, preventing him from falling

[@alvarozsh6566]

9:48 you can bypass the door in "non-dreamcast" mode by clipping through the roof using the walls as ramps, but it's impossible to go through some gaps, and even if it were possible, you would be required to do more jumps than entering the kart

[@kinsan89]

7:31 hands down the best line

[@jeffufuuuu]

Yote

[@fizzy_blizzy]

Really interesting video, excited to hopefully see more of this series for different entries in the Sonic series!

[@Crooked_Mantis]

I appreciate your dedication so much. The problem solving on display here is insane.

[@mostanemar4127]

When he said in final egg "it turns out we can clip through the wall and skip all of that" i knew that but thanks for showing us and showing us glitchs

[@lootria]

to make your life easier in the future, you can charge a light speed attack for chaos 6 and it deals double the damage so you only have to do that twice instead of 4 times

[@Hdx64]

When you said the answer would surprise me I thought... Ohh these KZbinrs and their clickbaits haha, but no. Colored me surprised, that's an amount of lateral thinking, perseverance and skill for sure worthy of a subscription. Great video man

[@Julian_Pepper]

Can I just personally thank you for not only showing all those mods made for this game, but also showing what this game is supposed to be like (kind of, a few DX bugs slip in), and not what its butchered 2003 Gamecube port (that unfortunately served as the basis for every other port of the game from then on) is like. It's nice to see "Sonic Adventure" actually mean Sonic Adventure for once, instead of Sonic Adventure DX.

[@jaomang]

DX is the superior version in every aspect

[@Julian_Pepper]

@@jaomang I'm speechless at how confidently wrong you are. For individual aspects you can argue them, but as whole package you just can't. DX has worse texturing, worse lighting, in most versions worse audio, and it has new bugs the last revision of the Dreamcast version just doesn't have, and this problem with bugs is even worse in later releases of DX, as more things from the Dreamcast version and even things from the original Gamecube version of DX break or become unstable. Unmodified DX is, and has always been, a mess, and it's gotten to be more of a mess each time it's been ported.

[@jaomang]

@@Julian_Pepper You are wrong about literally every singe thing you said. Your ignorance is so astounding it's like you haven't even played it.

[@PidgeyHowler]

Fun Fact: Chaos 6 has a hidden weakness to Light Speed Dash. He dies in two hits to it.

[@Dreamcasttime]

Also, i remembered. In Casinopolis you NEED to collect rings in DC version, because of invible box that is blocking the capsule/emerald. However, in DX version there is no wall, so you can skip it without having rings in your pocket. Also, in Twinkle Park that isn't possible to continue with sonic in Twinkle Cart thanks to big holes after jump pads

[@Uneke]

I remember going to futureshop and playing this all day on days I skipped school 😂 Stayed away from home, kept warm and entertained and played an awesome game I couldn’t afford as a kid 😂

[@louiepikmin3184]

Thank you for making this! There's a surprising lack of sonic adventure challenges specifically, so I'm always happy to see more

[@etac774]

I kinda wanna try this challenge glitchles now just to see how many jumps it would take that way.

[@noahtheweird8903]

Pls do this for all of the stories in sonic adventure 2

[@ChaosBrink]

He sounds so sad every time he has to sacrifice a jump

[@Rael0505]

some of these ideas you had to get around jumping were so creative. I'm impressed

[@JoSephGD]

9:46 responding to the bottom text: no, it's not possible to reach the end on foot. believe me, i've tried before using flying mods to bypass the door

[@DPadGamer]

Ahh, good to know!

[@NickJamNG]

I love the concept and the composition of the video is pretty good, but if I could give one piece of feedback it'd be to rerecord lines when you stumble on words or make an error. It can help with the overall presentation of the video and sounds more professional.

[@DPadGamer]

I am aware, but I try to maintain a bit of unprofessionalism.

[@AlastorNahIdWinRadioDemon]

Kind of wild how the first and last bosses required a few jumps each to beat.

[@RCReilly]

Just an amazing video! You can really tell how much effort you put into your theory crafting! Really well explained too! Loved the vid!

[@carprincess]

Great video! I always enjoy watching challenge runs of this game (or people just playing this game in general) so thanks!

[@XenonSlayer]

13:25 After this bit, where you're on the spiralling path down the mountainside, you can just walk off to the right and land on the outcrop leading to the second act, cutting out the top of the mountain. Ain't gonna save jumps, but always a nice skip.

[@user-px8ez2bo5n]

1:41 There's an upper path? Been playing this game on and off since DC and I never knew that was there.

[@matthewkalasky2891]

3:20 Sonic: "Tails, I could use a hand, here!" Tails (coldly): "No."

[@granfill]

From what I can say, you can beat emerald coast without any button press(yes, I tried it)

[@dragonick2947]

1:34 Additionally, you can't fall down those gaps! If you try, Sonic will just tumble in the air a bit, floating above them.

[@weshuiz1325]

Do halve "A presses" count? Wait... *wrong game*

[@TeamUnpro]

2:15 how did you manage that? xD (The poles, he bonked both of them and it was awesome)

[@DPadGamer]

I wish I could say I was aiming for them but it was just an accident

[@TeamUnpro]

@@DPadGamer It do be like that sometimes

[@Kaitri]

Never played this game but i really like those vids and appreciate the time they take

[@carlosfranceschy9428]

This game needs an HD remake or rerelease BADLY

[@lemonadesnake]

4:28 I think you can also go into the mystic ruins then back but take that with a grain of salt

[@kaobunn]

this video was so interesting! ill be sure to try these out for fun!

[@jordanmynes2638]

Wait, homing attack in the sky to Speed Highway's helicopter isn't a jump, but getting in the Twinkle Park kart is?

[@Rowann1]

its because for twinkle park he had to jump to get in the air to use the homing attack. For the helicopter, he got in the air without a jump.

[@egosumv3112]

@@Rowann1 it's a silly distinction tbh. If he's going to use other a button commands, a scripted entrance animation shouldn't count regardless of visuals imo.

[@Solidwake]

I would love to see more for sure. Hero side would be pretty cool.

[@Superminecraftsonic]

You beat Choas 6 in two hits with the light speed attack.

[@murphmariotwopointoh7714]

For Chaos 0, you could maybe get rid of some jumps by getting onto the police cars after the first homing attack.

[@Noname-gm5om]

Coming back to these adventure games I’m appreciating how legendary the level design was nothing like this anymore

[@AndGoatz04]

*_And then the nightmare himself spoketh:_* "Have you seen froggy?"

[@JinTubeTVSourceFilmMaker]

11:39 Pilot be like: hey so uh when is this Hedgehog getting on?

[@ariyaa-]

This youtuber is an alpha male because he doesn't lack at work ethic - shadow

[@movezig5]

Did you just say "yote?" I really hope that catches on.

[@FreddieFevens]

I love you DPad. Always happy to see a new video

[@RockR277]

I love how much of this is "just go through the wall lmao"

[@grimpaper]

Another challenge idea would be beating all of the other stories as sonic only. (using the character select mod of course)

[@canabissskank]

since there are many undiscovered glitches in sonic adventure it means there must be a glitch that would allow you to complete sonics story without jumping

[@greenscout171]

I remember the meme from thiss and IT was "woah thats intresting! But i sure dont care"

[@elibonham4388]

This an awesome challenge do this game entirely and sa2

[@lazypaladin]

Didn't see the 'Adventure 1' Part intime. Thought it was Original Sonic. Seen runs like this before but I'm excited to see any alternate tactics 👌

[@shadowsnake5133]

I'm curious how many jumps it takes for someone like gamma or big, who you don't think would require to jump, but things are usually deceiving in games, they might need to jump more than sonic, but who knows, it's not like anyone's tried that.

[@Cainb23]

KZbinrs do these and are like “ Can you believe it was ONLY 59 jumps?!??!” Me-😐

[@DPadGamer]

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[@faithwright7963]

Please do the rest of the stories, and the hero story in sonic adventure 2!

[@TheReZisTLust]

Sonic on a rooftop: Aw yea, this is hoppin

[@outofideasexe]

Hope you do the other stories, I feel like the knuckles story will be very hard

[@HanaShimeji]

Getting closer to the 0 A presses challenge I see

[@skeetermania3202]

Take that, SA1 critics! Looks like this iteration of the Light Speed Dash has unique utility after all!

[@MoopsAltAccount]

How many seconds of a video does it take for DPad to make everyone’s day? 1, welcome back mate :)

[@DraigoDragon]

Surprised you even counted those mechanic jumping points!

[@Jabrilgalien]

What an interesting concept, I sure hope it doesn't lead to someone making a burnout while talking about parallel universes 🤔

[@TheUltimateRare]

do another one! "how many homing attacks are required to beat sonic adventure (sonic story)?

[@sagacious03]

Fun analysis & run video! Thanks for uploading!

[@AlmyTheAlien]

2:27 Look, ramps! We can use these a- ...Oh? We can't?

[@NightShadowStudios]

The way you made the video kind of made me think the title should read: Beating Sonic Adventure 1 in as little jumps as possible

[@leone73]

Nice Video! I whould love to see the other hero stories.

[@vgae79alt]

Dude, I just misclicked on this video and thought, “HOW DID I GET SUCH A GOOD MISCLICK!!!” Got interested immediately, so misclicks can be good! 😄

[@DPadGamer]

Glad to hear you enjoyed it :D

[@EveTanooki]

I call red Mountain the "my mum is screaming at me again" stage. Why? Because the second part sounds like my mum is screaming at me.

[@bgamer5124]

4:39 Persona 5 Switch is looking great

[@fiercelonk8641]

He really went so fast he fly through air like plane!1! I not think that possible :o

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

I could tell this was the PC version due to Dreamcast lighting and models but DX water on Emerald Coast.

[@SparkyMK3]

Why has nobody done something like this for the Genesis Sonic games? I've been practicing a minimal jump run in Sonic 2, and I've gotten it down to 249 jumps so far, and I'm sure I can get it even lower with more practice. I'm still working on how many jumps it might take to beat Sonic 1 at present.

[@firerulezz116]

I'd be quite interested in seeing the Tails and Knuckles runs for this game. I don't think Amy, Big, or Omega would be too interesting, simply because Amy's hammer jump is too good (unless you banned it, but in that case she'd just be unable to do much of anything- still some interest, but less than Sonic, Knuckles and Tails who each have a few moves still available), and Big/Omega have no real mobility moves and their gameplay (mostly Big's) moves a bit more away from platforming in some regards. I'd also be interested in an SA2 run of the challenge!

[@johnnhello4913]

I like the parts when you say (monkey bars). Can you make a video talking about (buried treasure)?

[@joeytabora1052]

Nice video! Are you planning to do the rest of the game at some point?

[@quonit37]

Man I remember feeling so cheated when I played this game for the first time and the light speed dash wouldn't work on the Egg Viper. It looks like it's BEGGING to have that sort of chain attack on it! What a stupid bug.

[@mrforheadflash]

Dpads are more prefferable

[@chiefavagef0x837]

I seriously miss that soundtrack!

[@Pinkio]

soo, the final answer is... 22?